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Speaker 2: I was you live on a Monday issue to Cleveland

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Speaker 2: Browns Daily. I am merely bow. He is the great

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Speaker 2: loquacious Z. You're right, you're get out of town Monday edition.

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Speaker 3: Buddy, I thought it. I thought it was last week.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was Friday. Friday, the sea on down

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Speaker 3: the road. But yeah, decided, you know what, be with

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Speaker 3: the brothers one more one more day before we get

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Speaker 3: out of town.

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Speaker 2: I there's a lot of ways we can do this.

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Speaker 2: We I know you and I were texting during the

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Speaker 2: final rounds. We to discuss on that. Should we do

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Speaker 2: the business of the day first, since it is Cleveland

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Speaker 2: Browns Daily, and get the business of the day out

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Speaker 2: and then we'll have the fun fin This is all

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Speaker 2: fun too, But the Browns have signed eventsive end Julian

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Speaker 2: o'quara six four fifty six NFL season out of Notre Dame.

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Speaker 2: I remember him there, originally selected by the Lions in

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Speaker 2: the third round. Fifty one career game, seventy one career tackles,

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Speaker 2: ten sacks, one interception, another defensive end in the mix

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Speaker 2: there for the Browns. So we've added a little bit

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Speaker 2: of some more numbers to that room. Yeah, it's a

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Speaker 2: crowded room now.

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Speaker 3: It is because you've got Miles, You've got a Maguire,

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Speaker 3: you've got Alex right, you've got Joe Tryon Shoyinka, you've

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Speaker 3: got Oba okoron Quo, and now you've got Julian o'quara.

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Speaker 2: That's six. That's a lot. That's a lot of defensive ends.

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Speaker 3: Six And there are some young guys that we have

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Speaker 3: on futures deals that I know they liked at that

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Speaker 3: position as well as Yeah, they are coming out of

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Speaker 3: the room.

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Speaker 2: Looks must have been a big meeting. That's say, all

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Speaker 2: of the most important people here walking by. Yeah, very

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Speaker 2: good and not is staring at looking at phones too,

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Speaker 2: like making sure, yeah, what's happening? What's happening. Kenny Pickett

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Speaker 2: was at the Pitt's spring game and had this to say,

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Speaker 2: I'm but potentially starting for the Browns. That's the plan,

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Speaker 2: man to start, Picket said Saturday during the Pitt's Spring game.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going there to hang out. I want to

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Speaker 2: go to play. I'm excited, been working hard for it,

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Speaker 2: taking it a day at a time. Pickett also had

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Speaker 2: some comments on Joe Flacco. I've heard nothing but great

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Speaker 2: things about Joe. I've been watching him since I was

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Speaker 2: ten years old. Total respect for Joe what he's done,

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Speaker 2: and I'm excited to get to work with him too.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what mentality he would have other than that.

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Speaker 2: People were like surprised at it either, like what do

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Speaker 2: you want him to do?

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Speaker 3: Orse he's coming here and he thinks he can start

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Speaker 3: guys fifteen and ten as a starter. Of course, he

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Speaker 3: thinks he's going to compete to start former first round pick. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and I love it. I'm not going there to hang out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah no, right, let's see what Let's see what you got. So, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you got pick it, you got Flacco. So there will

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Speaker 3: be another addition to that room as well.

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Speaker 2: And what do we ten days? Ten days finally can't

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Speaker 2: come soon?

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Speaker 3: Orenough might not be ten days that another edition of

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Speaker 3: the room happens, but oh baby, I believe it will

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Speaker 3: happen in the next twelve.

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Speaker 2: There you go. Some other news and notes in terms

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Speaker 2: of the draft. Cam Skataboo is in the building for

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Speaker 2: a Top thirty visit last week. He'll have two more

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Speaker 2: visits around the league, visit the Cardinals and the Giants.

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Speaker 2: He was the running back at Arizona State that kind

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Speaker 2: of took college football on fire in the playoff. Yep,

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Speaker 2: bruising back, hard runner. I thought he's gonna be bottled

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Speaker 2: up by Texas and he just kept running and he was.

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Speaker 2: He was really really good. Jim ran came right, GM Man,

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Speaker 2: Jim Ratt, Yeah, Jim Ratt, could you do that? First

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Speaker 2: first guy in last game, first guy in last out?

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Speaker 2: Mentality your boy made here? Have we figured out how

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Speaker 2: to say McMillan's last name? Are we guessing on it?

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Speaker 2: Say his first name? Or how do you say it?

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Speaker 3: G Man, tet this is tetar Roha McMillan. I would

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Speaker 3: not have gone there, Ted Roam macmillan.

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Speaker 2: This is your guy from the video game fan, big fan,

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Speaker 2: big big fan, big big big kid. And he was

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Speaker 2: he was in the in the mix as well. All Right.

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Speaker 1: It was.

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Speaker 2: As riveted as I have been to a sporting event

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Speaker 2: that did not involve my own children or a team

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Speaker 2: that I was rooting for, like that I had connective

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Speaker 2: tissue with. I don't have any connective tsse with Rory

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Speaker 2: mcrather than interview him a few times at the memorial. Sure,

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Speaker 2: he's always been an incredible gentleman, very gracious with his time,

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Speaker 2: very open to any sort of interviews that I've done

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Speaker 2: with him over the years. But I don't know him

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Speaker 2: other than to say that you watch him play and

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Speaker 2: he's got an immense amount of talent and just the

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Speaker 2: human side of it, the human element of it. That was, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that was I couldn't take my eyes off it. You

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Speaker 2: and I text the whole time. My kids couldn't either.

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Speaker 2: My wife couldn't. Like it was no double screening, Like

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Speaker 2: it was locked in locked. It was riven, stunning as

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Speaker 2: stuff as I've seen.

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Speaker 3: Or sport riveting. And that's what's so wild about golf.

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Speaker 2: Is that you.

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Speaker 3: Can see very clearly, on full display, the absolute greats

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Speaker 3: battling their demons out. You don't get to see it

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Speaker 3: really in any other sport. The only other sport I

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Speaker 3: would say that maybe you can't. There really is no

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's anything like it because there isn't.

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Speaker 3: In every other sport there actions and reactions. You could

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Speaker 3: say a pitcher in baseball, but the battersole has to

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Speaker 3: hit the ball or not hit the ball. There are

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Speaker 3: other variables in this. It's literally you are hitting a

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Speaker 3: stationary ball. There's no reaction, there's no it's not a quarterback,

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Speaker 3: there's no equivalent. It's not even tennis, because in tennis

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Speaker 3: the other person's hitting it or hitting it back to you,

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Speaker 3: or you're reacting to a shot that was hit to you.

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Speaker 2: Is it is it like knoblock?

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Speaker 3: So what happens in golf? And and he is I

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Speaker 3: mean said what he accomplished is incredible, and the weight

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Speaker 2: And there's nothing because I was trying to think too,

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Speaker 2: like what else in sport could be? Like I texted you,

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Speaker 2: I said, what is the comparison in sport for what

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Speaker 2: he did? At thirteen?

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Speaker 3: I was trying to say, it's like Nick Anderson. That

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Speaker 2: Was like an eighty eight percent free throw shooter at

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Speaker 3: Ice it and he missed the NA missed four. He

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Speaker 3: missed I think four four in a row, like that's unfathomable.

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Speaker 2: One. It was that game one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's that unfathomable. I mean eighty six yards. He's

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Speaker 3: aiming twenty yards left of the pin, just because that's

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Speaker 3: the way that it actually would have funneled the ball.

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Speaker 2: It could have been easier.

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Speaker 3: And he hits it twenty five yards right of his

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Speaker 3: What was nuts was he was in is he clearly

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Speaker 3: felt comfortable with the full swing because the shot, the

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Speaker 3: second shot he hits on fifteen is one of the

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Speaker 2: In golf history, that's right, yep. And then he misses

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Speaker 3: I mean he missed five puts on the back on

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Speaker 2: Inside ten feet yep. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And so what you saw, and even on the one

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Speaker 3: to somebody, I said, first of all, to hit that

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Speaker 3: you had put it in the bunker earlier. What all

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Speaker 2: He was two yards closer, but that was basically it

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Speaker 2: does it and he was a little little bit to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, to hit that to two and a half feet

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Speaker 3: under after Rosen stuffed it in there at like ten

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Speaker 3: that shot enormous. But then you could see the pressure

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Speaker 3: on the putts. He just couldn't. He wasn't even getting

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Speaker 2: No, No, the one he won.

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Speaker 3: If that putt was six inches longer, he misses it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it was cruisers left getting going. Yeah, it's crazy. But

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Speaker 3: what you see is and one of the things that

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Speaker 3: why golf is so hard is you can't there's something

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Speaker 3: to the putting stroke, is that you can't like guide

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Speaker 2: No, you can't like will it in. Really you have

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Speaker 3: And if you're not confident it is you you can't

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Speaker 3: it because you think about being that phenom that prodigy

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Speaker 3: didn't have one. One putt green. It never happens. And

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Speaker 3: then you see it. And then he starts off us

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Speaker 3: Open last year. Then you see him start off double.

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Speaker 3: He goes, gives away two, then gets it back. Then

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden he's playing great. Then he's on fire.

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Speaker 3: Birdie's nine, Birdie's ten. Now he's four up with eight

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Speaker 3: little bit of sloppy bogie on eleven, but then he

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Speaker 3: does twelve and then you're like, okay, thirteen, he's playing it.

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Speaker 3: He's playing somewhere, he's up four. Meantime, Bryson's off a cliff,

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Speaker 3: Bryson's gone. He's in d shambles, which is a fan

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Speaker 3: and I like Bryson.

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Speaker 2: I did too. I think few people have come further

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Speaker 2: from from a public perception and standpoint than him. In

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Speaker 2: universal villain like the guys of grud to like, this

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Speaker 2: guy's the best, Like well, fist bump, We're gonna go

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Speaker 2: put off with people on Saturday night, walking around my

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Speaker 2: neighborhood and all that, like all that, all of that wins.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and just you know, you go through and

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Speaker 3: then you're on thirteen and he's like, oh, he's playing

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Speaker 2: He's just gonna take.

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Speaker 3: Make a little easy par at worst.

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Speaker 2: When when he walked did you I don't know if

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Speaker 2: you picked up on this when he walked from twelve

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Speaker 2: Green to thirteen and nance said, this is his last

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Speaker 2: little sanctuary because they've moved thirteen tea backs so far

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Speaker 2: that there is no crowd. You're by yourself. It's the

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Speaker 2: only tea shot. It's the only shot he was going

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Speaker 2: There's been two people since sixty six, right second Tiger,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And if you're him and you've tried to do

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Speaker 3: No and there's there's there's nobody to bail you out.

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Speaker 2: You have to get the ball in the hole. He

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Speaker 3: or hitting.

434
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Speaker 4: The shot that you can pipe it.

435
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Speaker 3: You can pipe a drive, you can nail a fifty

436
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,680
Speaker 3: foot put. Anybody of any handicap who's ever played golf

437
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,399
Speaker 3: has made a punt from like fifty feet yep, and

438
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,199
Speaker 3: you're like, oh my god, yep. Or you can hit

439
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,639
Speaker 3: a perfect approach shot that goes in. Anybody can do it, yep.

440
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 3: But then when you see them, when you see them struggle.

441
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 3: I mean, dude, a guy in the opening round who

442
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,680
Speaker 3: is a professional golfer, a PGA Tour golfer. I think

443
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:25,879
Speaker 3: he's on the PGA Tour. It could be on the

444
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,439
Speaker 3: lift either way. He's a professional, professional golfer. Shot ninety,

445
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,440
Speaker 3: that's right, and then like a stud came back and

446
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 3: shot seventy one the next day. He could have withdrawn

447
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 3: and came back and shot seventy one a day after

448
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,400
Speaker 3: shooting ninety. And those are the best in the world.

449
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,640
Speaker 3: So like when you go out there and you're golfing

450
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:46,959
Speaker 3: and you don't hit the ball where you want to,

451
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 3: it's okay, that's yeah, that's gonna happen.

452
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:52,160
Speaker 2: It is.

453
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was exhausting. It was got And that's the

454
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,359
Speaker 3: thing when the reasons why, I'll be honest with you.

455
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 3: You know, I used to play you know, college golf

456
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:09,159
Speaker 3: and play in you know some big the toll playing

457
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 3: an intense stroke round of golf, like a ball into

458
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:16,160
Speaker 3: the cup, count up your score one round and you're

459
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 3: doing it for real, and like care is exhausting.

460
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Speaker 2: The boys said to me, Dad, aren't any of these gimmes,

461
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 2: And no, there are none.

462
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,880
Speaker 3: By the way, Justin Rose wins the tournament. Yeah, if

463
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Speaker 3: he doesn't three put from three feet on sixteen the day.

464
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 2: Before, buddy, if Patrick Reid, it doesn't three put putt

465
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 2: on fifteen from two feet two feet, he is in

466
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 2: the playoff. Does he finished at nine? Yeah, and he

467
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 2: went from eagle to bogie on fifteen from three feet

468
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,160
Speaker 2: he could have won it if you had just one

469
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 2: put it. Yeah. And that's the thing.

470
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 3: That's what like cheez when people always you know, what

471
00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 3: should I get? If you can chip and putt and

472
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 3: you can be competent from inside one hundred fifty yards,

473
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 3: you'll always kind of mitigate everything you want.

474
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 2: You need to learn how to hit it long.

475
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 3: But like when you watch this, Rory's shot for example

476
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 3: on fifteen, which is one of the greatest Goll shots ever,

477
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 3: didn't even gain him a stroke, not one because he

478
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,919
Speaker 3: didn't make the five foot putt.

479
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 2: Well, he birdied, but I mean, yeah, he should have

480
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 2: been eagle.

481
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 3: But I'm saying, if you hit from there, right, he

482
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 3: hit it on the green fifty feet away.

483
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 2: Right, he's making birdie. Fact, yes, like he's still making

484
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 2: a birdie. Doesn't matter, It doesn't matter. So he did

485
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 2: not take advantage. No, So that's why it's such an

486
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 2: it's such an insane game.

487
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 3: And it's an insane thing to think that when you

488
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Speaker 3: believe a putt on the lip and you strike the

489
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 3: ball and contact it to go one inch. That counts

490
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 3: the same as if you'd just hit a three and

491
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 3: thirty yard drive. That's majestic right down the middle.

492
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it had to be at the Masters too,

493
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,640
Speaker 2: And the reason I because I don't think if all

494
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 2: of that played out at the US Open or the

495
00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,959
Speaker 2: PGA or the British I don't think it would have

496
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 2: the feeling. It's for the career Grand Slam. But it's

497
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 2: also Augusta. It's because we know those pin placements. It's

498
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 2: the same course every year. It's mowed the same every year.

499
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 2: You notice if they move a pin back or whatever.

500
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 2: But other than that, the trees look the same, the

501
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 2: flowers look the same, it sounds the same, and so

502
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 2: we've seen it, like, we know where you have to be.

503
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 2: They did the rare thing they paid homage to Nicholas's

504
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 2: seventy five win and move that pin on sixteen, but

505
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 2: everything else, we know where you have to hit on eighteen.

506
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 2: We've seen it there a million times. We know what

507
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 2: that pin means. And to see him miss it from

508
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 2: one twenty eight, dude, just any short green grass and

509
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 2: you win it. Win it any.

510
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 3: Now you're next one with the putt here with now,

511
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 3: I don't know if he would have because he still

512
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 3: missed a four footer, so I don't know if he

513
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 3: would have or not.

514
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 2: Other thing, I want to bring attention to two things

515
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 2: about the Master's experience. Number One, I think that more

516
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,679
Speaker 2: and more sporting events, and I think us as the

517
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 2: public should be open to this. Should take yourself phone,

518
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,959
Speaker 2: the cell phones, because when I'm watching this thing and

519
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 2: you see the stills, you just see people watching what's

520
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 2: in front of them. You lot dialed this nonsense like

521
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 2: trying to do what are you gonna do with it?

522
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 2: What are you what are you gonna do with it? Yeah,

523
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 2: and you just watch them lock in and they're all

524
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 2: just watching. They do this in stand up comedy now,

525
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:21,719
Speaker 2: like they take your phone because it might end up

526
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 2: on Netflix or whatever, So they take your phone, they

527
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 2: put it in a thing, like, I think we got

528
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,120
Speaker 2: to get there to where I think more and more

529
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 2: sporting of it. They say, we're not disciplined enough. No

530
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 2: we're not. No, not by a damn stretch. But that

531
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 2: was awesome to see.

532
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 3: Those pictures and everybody's face. And that's why you would

533
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 3: get when they would manually change the scoreboard. Yes, you

534
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 3: would get all these big reactions because nobody.

535
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 2: You're not checking it. There's no way to know, no

536
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 2: buddy mine was. There two things he told me that

537
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 2: was unbelievable. He said, First of all, like the whole

538
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 2: course was rooting for Rory, like everybody was. But I

539
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 2: think everyone is rooting for Bryce. I think they just

540
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 2: root for drama and good golf. So I think everyone's

541
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,679
Speaker 2: rooting for everybody. Said it was, you could feel it.

542
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 2: But one thing I noticed was what he kind of

543
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 2: got confused in terms of where the double bogie came.

544
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 2: He thought it was fifteen because he's out on the course.

545
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 2: So I'm like, dude, when you go back and watch

546
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 2: what you were at, yep, you're not going to believe it,

547
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 2: he said. The other thing that was crazy is the

548
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 2: Shamo was on the driving range at two twenty two

549
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 2: for a two thirty tea time, launching drivers because he

550
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 2: wasn't right and he was trying to get his swing. Cry.

551
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 2: He was eight minutes before his tea time, swinging one

552
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 2: thousand miles an hour, trying to dial it in. Did

553
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 2: you see what he did the night before? On I did?

554
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mentioned that earlier walked around no, I was

555
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 3: saying after the round. Oh, he was on the range

556
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 3: until ten thirty.

557
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 2: God, how do you even have hands?

558
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 3: Because he couldn't notice on Saturday all of his irons

559
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 3: late were left. Yeah, and so he was just dude,

560
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 3: iron after iron after iron.

561
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 2: He hit something like one.

562
00:26:55,400 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 3: Hundred and fifty more balls. God at night. Then he

563
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:02,959
Speaker 3: goes walks around and yeah, does that punting?

564
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 2: But he was.

565
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 3: He went from that round to the range. Like right

566
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 3: after he made that bomb, putt signed a scorecard and

567
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 3: went to the range.

568
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 2: I was just hitting iron after iron after iron after

569
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 2: iron after iron. He menaged exhausted me to be his

570
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 2: caddy because you're alone for the ride. All this stuff.

571
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 2: One other thing I want to bring attention to for

572
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 2: the kids out there. Rory makes the putt, he crumbles,

573
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 2: he's weeping all the emotion. Nance says his quick little

574
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 2: line and then he laid out for seven minutes. It

575
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 2: was awesome. He didn't say a word, He just let

576
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 2: the images and the natural sound of Augusta go. That's awesome.

577
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 3: He was at a great call on the radio too.

578
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's different on radio because you have to but

579
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 2: on TV, like Nance just laid out.

580
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 4: See and it's interesting we talked about this today because

581
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 4: I agree with that after the moment happened. I thought

582
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 4: he was almost too chatty going into the.

583
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 2: Moment, though.

584
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 4: I think he was, especially on eighteen the first time.

585
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 2: I think he so much wanted to lay the context

586
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 2: of it up. He knew what would happened. He wanted

587
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 2: everyone to under understand the gravity of it. And I

588
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 2: think probably for him, and I thought Emmlman was really

589
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 2: good too for most of the day. I think the

590
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 2: job of trying to make sense of what they were seeing. Yeah,

591
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,239
Speaker 2: it was so hard to understand how he hit that

592
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 2: shot on thirteen and missing the putts he missed on fifteen,

593
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 2: even sixteen he wasn't even he didn't really give it

594
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 2: a run at it on sixteen, like it wasn't like

595
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 2: it was lipped. I mean it missed. He just missed

596
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 2: it by several inches. And then how do you make

597
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 2: sense of And then also keep in mind, like you're broadcasting,

598
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 2: but Augusta is listening to everything you say. So if

599
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 2: you say something yeah, you can't say somebody choked, you

600
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 2: can't say somebody there. You're done, done, You're gone.

601
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Speaker 4: And it's not the practice range it's the practice facility.

602
00:28:55,840 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, there's a term for every Yeah, Augusta, it's

603
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 4: not a back nine, it's the second nine, all that stuff.

604
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they don't it's the first cut, the second cut.

605
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 2: There is no rough with Augusta, Like that's all of that.

606
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 2: So I but I just thought, like to just lay

607
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 2: out is it's that's that's pretty powerful to have the

608
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 2: confidence to just let it, let the pictures in audio

609
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 2: do its job.

610
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 3: And it did, and it was such an emotional moment,

611
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 3: and it was Yeah, he was set in the stage.

612
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 3: I mean he was saying things even as they made

613
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 3: the turn to the back nine. Yes, he had a

614
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 3: couple of great, great lines, but.

615
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 4: There were just moments where I was like, this is

616
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 4: unlike Jim, is he talking? Is he getting so wrapped

617
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 4: in the moment.

618
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 2: I think everybody who wants him to wanted him to

619
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 2: win for so much long because of how good of

620
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 2: a duty is, you know, and the talent, Like we

621
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 2: in the end, it's the reason, like the final four

622
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 2: had such great ratings. We all really want to see greatness.

623
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 2: That's what you want to see. You can talk about Cinderella,

624
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 2: you can talk about somebody winning something out of nowhere.

625
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 2: But you also want to say I was there or

626
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 2: I witnessed this. There's value in that, and I think

627
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 2: for them there was too. I think that's why they

628
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 2: were kind of all root for him, especially when he

629
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 2: after what he had been through.

630
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 3: I thought, when Rory's on the ninth green and he

631
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 3: goes through the role call of champions who birdied nine

632
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 3: on their way to winning and just had that at

633
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 3: the ready, and he's going through them as Rory makes it,

634
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 3: he goes and has he added his name to the

635
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 3: list in twenty five. Then he said when they came

636
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 3: back from that commercial going to ten, he's like the

637
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 3: most important nine holes of his life.

638
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 2: He said, will it be nine holes of glory for Rory? Like, yeah,

639
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 2: all kinds of it was. He was very good. Yeah,

640
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 2: yeah it was, And so it was. I don't know,

641
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 2: it's really you guys asked what was the NFL equivalent.

642
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 2: The only thing I could think of is like if

643
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills, who have been in the FC Championship

644
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 2: Game all these times, have all those Super Bowl losses,

645
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 2: if they got to the Super Bowl led like twenty

646
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 2: eight to three and then coughed it all up, just

647
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 2: coughed it up, just Josh Allen, just and they're down

648
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 2: thirty one to twenty eight, and or if they somehow

649
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 2: get it tied at thirty one thirty one and there's

650
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 2: a chip shot field goal to win it and they

651
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 2: miss it right and then somehow they win an overtime

652
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 2: on a Josh Allen bomb. That's the best one I

653
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 2: could do. I can't think of another NFL because you

654
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 2: have to have a bunch of bites at the apple,

655
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 2: you have to have the scar tissue of not getting

656
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 2: it done. That's the best one I could do on

657
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 2: an NFL side of it. Yeah, it's hard.

658
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 3: It's hard to have an equivalent because it is so

659
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 3: just you solitude, the solitude, silence, and the fact that

660
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 3: again there's something too the ball's not moving. No, it's

661
00:31:58,680 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 3: you and your thoughts.

662
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 2: Dude, What was what was the hole where he hung

663
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 2: on by a thread? Eleven?

664
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 3: And then he kind of for a pro duffed the

665
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 3: chip and made bogie eleven. Yeah, eleven was three inches

666
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 3: from going into the water.

667
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 2: Maybe one.

668
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 3: I couldn't believe it stopped me and I thought it

669
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 3: was They're like.

670
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 2: What were we doing? Man? Yeah?

671
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 3: And then Bryson knocked it right in the water after that.

672
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 3: I mean Bryson, honestly, if he didn't have some of

673
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 3: his horrible shots, but it could have been fine, just

674
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 3: scraping it along.

675
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 2: Well. He And that goes to your point earlier about

676
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 2: from one hundred and fifty and in he's such a

677
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 2: good putter normally and an incredible chipper and and sand

678
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 2: player that he was so close on all of that stuff,

679
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 2: but like his second shots, he had no clue where

680
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 2: they were going. It was iron, which is nuts. That's wild. Yeah, wild,

681
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 2: It's great. It's really great. I'm guessing the numbers will

682
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 2: be mammoth for it.

683
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 4: Howmore, there was nothing else.

684
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: We were at Lacrosse and Rocky River and like half

685
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 2: the dads because the game started, Our game started too,

686
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 2: and like half the dads were like, Rory doubled one.

687
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 2: Rory doubled one, and like the whole way home, I

688
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 2: had NBC, like had my phone on. He was watching

689
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 2: as I was driving home, you know. So it was

690
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 2: just it was ribboning the whole way. It captured. It

691
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 2: had to have it'd be huge. I had to have

692
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,959
Speaker 2: huge numbers. I just can't imagine it wasn't because even

693
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 2: if you weren't watching, if you were on any sort

694
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 2: of social media app, you found it.

695
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 3: I mean I had probably and I'm not trying to exaggerate,

696
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 3: twenty five different group chats going yeah, like all at

697
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 3: one time. Yeah, the ambassador cool was like almost ready

698
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 3: to jump off of a building, and then he was

699
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 3: back and then he's like, I'm exhausted.

700
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 2: I go into bad because he was he was big, huge.

701
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean we almost saw that. Like

702
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 3: I said, I really think the stakes were maybe like

703
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 3: the end of his competitive career, like he could have ever.

704
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 2: I don't think he would ever be I don't think

705
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 2: he could ever be competing in a mage again. Like

706
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 2: I could see him continuing to play because he still wins,

707
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 2: I know, but the rest mentally, I don't know how

708
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 2: he could have shown up in another thing. I don't

709
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 2: know how he could have, you know, ever, And I

710
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 2: do so I think you're right. I think it goes

711
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 2: from like never winning another major and now I think

712
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 2: I think he went a bunch. Yeah, I think he'd

713
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 2: win three or four more at this point. But it's

714
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: all great. That's the other thing.

715
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 3: It's like, dude, you made guy made four doubles, God,

716
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 3: two of which were horrific, three of which were horrific.

717
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 2: Oh my god, the chip on.

718
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 3: That's just the three pett he had on one yesterday.

719
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 3: I mean as answers like they were unfathomable doubles. So

720
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:42,720
Speaker 3: he had those doubles and he missed like five putts

721
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 3: inside of ten feet on the back and still one.

722
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 3: He could have won this by nine shots.

723
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 2: He could have been twenty under easy, easy, easy. Yeah,

724
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 2: that's what's crazy that he can.

725
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 3: Oh man, his his strokes gained tee to green going

726
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 3: in the last round were so off the charts but

727
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 3: even and Bryson was nowhere near him. But Bryson was

728
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 3: just putting his putt like crazy, he really was.

729
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, when he went to eighteen two things on the

730
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 2: playoff that jumped out. When he goes to eighteen tea box,

731
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: there's a guy who's like up against the ropes, like

732
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 2: a fan patron guy, and he goes believe it, Rory.

733
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 2: You could hear the Mike pick it up say believe it, Rory.

734
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 2: And I'm thinking, like, if you're Rory McElroy, do you

735
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 2: want to punch this guy in the face, like you

736
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like you know that the guy's

737
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 2: coming from a good place, but it's like you don't

738
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 2: want to probably hear anything. And the other thing I'll

739
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 2: say about the playoff, I think that it is incredibly

740
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 2: fortunate that it was Justin Rose because there was a

741
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 2: familiarity between him and Rose. They played in all the

742
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 2: Ryder Cups together. Justin Rose is the gentleman's golfer of

743
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 2: all gentleman's golfer, And I think when he got to

744
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 2: eighteen t and they like kind of bro hugged and

745
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 2: shook hands, it was like that almost calmed him.

746
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like if it was Bryson in the playoff after

747
00:35:58,480 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 3: he had just eighteen like that, I think.

748
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 2: Or anybody I think else that he you know, one

749
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 2: of the live guys you'd been at odds with whatever, Like,

750
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 2: I think it would have unnerved him. But I think

751
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 2: because it was Rose, there was a familiarity that it

752
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 2: was like, Okay, this is me and Rosie will play

753
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 2: eighteen fine, I'm better than him. Let's go. I'll go

754
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 2: make Birdie fine. That's it. That kind of jumped out

755
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 2: to me.

756
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 3: They Rose made ten birdies on Sunday, the put on

757
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 3: eighteen is a bomb, bomb and pure pure. He had

758
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 3: his hat off with it two feet out.

759
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,520
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760
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761
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762
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763
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Speaker 2: the New Orleans Saints. They have Spencer Rattler a couple

784
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 2: other guys on that roster. This probably explains how Shador

785
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Speaker 2: went to become the favorite now to land in New Orleans.

786
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 2: Here's something I want to pose to you about this

787
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 2: specific situation. If you're Aaron Rodgers, do you say, hmmm,

788
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 2: that's interesting.

789
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 3: It's a division where you feel like maybe you can compete.

790
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 2: Yep.

791
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 3: It's a dome which he might find appealing yep.

792
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:39,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe decent weapons.

793
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 3: I just don't understand why he hasn't signed with the

794
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 3: Steelers yet. If he's signing with the Steelers.

795
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 2: Maybe he's not crazy about I mean, maybe he's having

796
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 2: reservations about playing in this division in the elements, all

797
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 2: of the stuff that comes with it. I mean, this

798
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 2: isn't easier. By the way, New Orleans they got hallucinogens, Yeah,

799
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 2: they do. They got that yes they do. Can't you

800
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 2: see him down with the voo do folks? Certain things out.

801
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 3: Absolutely would add up a lot of absent available down there.

802
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 3: All that you want, all that you want, Yeah, you need.

803
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 3: Feels like it would be.

804
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 4: A good That's how their fans consume the game.

805
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 2: Yeah you want a sacrificial chicken, and get you one

806
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 2: by two o'clock. Pick a pick a corner they've got.

807
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 3: They definitely have some weapons the love. Yeah, yeah, they'd

808
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 3: be Yeah, that'd be interesting. Good looking uniforms.

809
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 2: I don't know who. The very good looking uniforms. I

810
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 2: don't know who.

811
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 3: The Also, in many ways, Farv's career ended in New Orleans.

812
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 2: Did Yeah? Oh, Doug Nussmeyer is your Doug Nasmeyer is

813
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator. Hold on a second. Is Kellen Moore

814
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 2: the head coach of the Saints that.

815
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 3: I yes, No, you knew that. I promise you knew that.

816
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, we knew that. Kellen Moore's the head coach. Doug

817
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 2: Nussmeyer is the offensive coordinator. See if there's any connection

818
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 2: anywhere else on this roster that of people, he would

819
00:39:55,920 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 2: know Scott Lenehan, offensive special assistant. M hmm, yeah, that

820
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 2: would be It could be interesting. I would just say that.

821
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 2: I mean obviously an offensive leaning staff versus definitely Pittsburgh.

822
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know. When I saw that, I thought,

823
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 2: I wonder if that's the spot. Now, if you're Rogers,

824
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 2: do you do you take that call? By the way,

825
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 2: how are we.

826
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 3: Making sense of what's happened here with Derek Carr?

827
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 2: I don't think we are.

828
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 3: He signed a huge deal and now is hurt? Yeah,

829
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 3: hurt doing what?

830
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 2: Great question? I don't know. I know why that Isn't

831
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 2: that weird that it did get hurt?

832
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 3: And the timing rowing right before the draft? Did he

833
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 3: get hurting out?

834
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be I'm naive to this. Did he got

835
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 2: hurt in the season? Right? Wasn't he hurt in this season?

836
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 2: But I think it was like, yes, a hand it was.

837
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 3: It's not this because this injury, because they wouldn't have

838
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 3: given him the contract they just gave him.

839
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 2: Did they just renegotiate his deal or was it like

840
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: a did they give him a true extension they paid him?

841
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 2: Hold on, I pulled it.

842
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 3: There are the Saints their Carr broke several bones in

843
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 3: his non throwing Okay, Car has not played since he

844
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 3: broke several.

845
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 2: Bones and his non throwing in with fourteen. Yeah, this

846
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 2: is a miss seven games. Derek Carr has a shoulder

847
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 2: injury that could put his status in jeopardy. Didn't he

848
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 2: the year before?

849
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 3: Wouldn't So they just restructured his contract and so he's

850
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 3: going to have a cap number of sixty nine million

851
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 3: and twenty twenty six and twenty and forty million in

852
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 3: twenty twenty seven. So they pushed his money, so which

853
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 3: means that they're like kind of into it.

854
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 2: They're into him. So this is on ESPN. A source

855
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 2: told ESPN's Jeremy Fowler that he was open to testing

856
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 2: the market earlier in the offseason, and the Saints ended

857
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 2: up restructuring his contract instead, effectively tying him to the

858
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 2: team through the twenty twenty five season. So I don't

859
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 2: know if but.

860
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 3: Now he's not going to play in the twenty twenty

861
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 3: five se No, he's not. Is that what they're saying

862
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 3: he's out for the year.

863
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 2: Well, I mean that they haven't confirmed anything. They have not.

864
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 4: They have not said they said he there's a possibility

865
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 4: that he could miss significant time even up through the

866
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 4: entire season.

867
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: Well, isn't. And I think they start their off season

868
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 2: program today.

869
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:29,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, they have a new coach.

870
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 2: Give him a button on a Monday. A little bit

871
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 2: of a Rory bounce, Yeah, a little bounce.

872
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 4: I believe he was down there watching Rory in person

873
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 4: on Friday.

874
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 2: He was down as he should be. Yeah, as he

875
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 2: should be down there. I think it's well, there's really no.

876
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 2: It's very strange. The details on it, or details whatsoever.

877
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 2: I think you need. Uh, Kellen Moore should talk today.

878
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 2: I would think first day of I don't know if

879
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 2: he would or not.

880
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 4: First day, maybe tomorrow, whenever they're there, whatever their day.

881
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:03,280
Speaker 2: Is of availability.

882
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 4: Maybe it's not the first day, maybe it's the second day.

883
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it says.

884
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 4: I mean, our guys don't talk till they're technically they've

885
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 4: been in the building for three days next.

886
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 2: Week, Okay, so it's not right away. Yeah no, but

887
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 2: it's interesting and I think if you're Rogers, I would

888
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 2: listen for sure. The question is, let me pull this

889
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,959
Speaker 2: back up. And the only thing Pittsburgh would have over

890
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 2: them is a little bit more offensive talent, better operation,

891
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 2: better defense, all of that. But like, you want to

892
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 2: play in this snake pit now, or you can go

893
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 2: play and go play in that division and play in

894
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 2: a dark.

895
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 4: Because the Falcons screw it up all the time, even

896
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 4: with talent. Yeah, Carolina's got to be the working Yeah,

897
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:51,919
Speaker 4: you gotta be Tampa Bay.

898
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 3: So the Saints right now have they do have some

899
00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 3: cap space. They've got some cap space, so they know

900
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 3: who do you know the two biggest cap numbers on

901
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 3: their roster are?

902
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 2: Mmm? One of them is not Derek Carr.

903
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 3: One of them is Derek Carr, is derekr one is

904
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 3: Derek car and another is not defense?

905
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: No?

906
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 2: Is it? Oh?

907
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 5: Is it?

908
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 2: Uh? The way you pose the question, maybe it makes

909
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 2: me think it's Taysom Hill.

910
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 5: Yep.

911
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, seventeen point nine eight six million.

912
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 2: They can't even cut against year. They can't even cut them, right,

913
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 2: isn't that? Don't you think that was shod post June first?

914
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 2: Just Sean Payton, like, I'm right on this, trust me.

915
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 2: But he's Sean Payne's been gone for all time, I know.

916
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 2: So he's got a Brandon Cooks is there or she'd

917
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 2: she heat is the slot there? Heat can fly? Yeah,

918
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 2: Alvin Kamar is there. Obviously, Taysom Hill tight end is

919
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 2: in the mix. Yeah, decent defense.

920
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 3: Man. Yeah, they'd be totally an intriguing option. Yeah, an

921
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 3: easier path to win your division than certainly coming here.

922
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 2: Or Pittsburgh for sure. Yeah.

923
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 3: And by the way, if he doesn't go to Pittsburgh,

924
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 3: then I suppose they could draft somebody at twenty one.

925
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 2: But just interesting. I think if they if he doesn't

926
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 2: go to Pittsburgh, then he then if Pittsburgh doesn't get Rogers,

927
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 2: then I don't you think Pickett Pittsburgh goes to Cousins

928
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 2: and then the Falcons, it'll all have been worth It's

929
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 2: send him for a pick. Yeah, like you said last week,

930
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 2: I don't know why they didn't just go with just

931
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 2: keep Justin Fields around for it.

932
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 4: I don't know why they're still waiting on an answer.

933
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, like.

934
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 4: This guy's holding the hot the franchise hostage.

935
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you do? Strange?

936
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 5: I think.

937
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 2: It's enough. Yeah, make a decision. Yeah, it's cool man,

938
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 2: one way or the other. You play like we got

939
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 2: to know. That's why I keep thinking that they know,

940
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 2: and he just for whatever reason, doesn't want to say

941
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 2: it out loud. He just doesn't want to sign I guess,

942
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 2: or maybe just doesn't want to do it yet or

943
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 2: prove that he's really thinking about it. I just have

944
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 2: a hard time believing that they don't know his intent.

945
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 2: The Bears and cornerback Kyler Gordon reached an agreement on

946
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 2: a three year, forty million dollar extension, making him the

947
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 2: highest paid slot corner in the NFL. We will know

948
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 2: who's attending the draft in Green Bay tonight at six

949
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 2: It'll be announced on ES on NFL Network. Rather, I

950
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 2: don't really care if you're there or not. I really

951
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 2: don't like I think of the haff feels like half

952
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 2: one with his day. Yeah, you know, yeah it is.

953
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 2: It is interesting, and.

954
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 3: Those guys that are there that don't get drafted, it

955
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 3: becomes very awkward.

956
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, yah.

957
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 3: Knowing who's there really doesn't mean a whole Yeah, I'm

958
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 3: with you. That's another trying to turn that into another

959
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,959
Speaker 3: announcement on NFL Network at six pm.

960
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 2: But I just got to tell you, this offseason is

961
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 2: too long. The time between the combine, free agency in

962
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 2: the draft.

963
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 4: I know it's there's a little schedule release in between.

964
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 4: Like remember the schedule release used to be like the

965
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 4: week either before the draft or like the Tuesday of

966
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 4: draft week.

967
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 2: Do it this week or do the draft this week?

968
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 3: I don't mind them waiting because then you can kind

969
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 3: of try to come up with some cool matchups after

970
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 3: the draft.

971
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 2: I just think the draft needs to be moved up.

972
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 2: Just do it this weekend or do it in March.

973
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:27,760
Speaker 2: I suppose they don't want to deal with March madness.

974
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 2: They don't want to do with March madness. You can

975
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 2: do it this week. This is easy. This is when

976
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,240
Speaker 2: it used to be right. But the whole draft's done Saturday, Saturday. Yeah,

977
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 2: so you'd be fun. You're fine, it's safe, it's safe,

978
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 2: you're safe. Yeah, just knock it out, get it done.

979
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 2: This week, Syracuse quarterback Colum McCord is making the rounds.

980
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 2: He's set to visit Pittsburgh today. Some other notable visits

981
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 2: around the league Josh Simmons, the officive tackle out of

982
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 2: Ohio State, visiting the Saints and Cardinals this week. South

983
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 2: Carolina defensive tackle TJ. Sanders visiting the Bengals today, Texas

984
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 2: Alabama and m officer tackle cars Vincent visiting with the Ravens,

985
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 2: and Abdul Carter is visiting with the Patriots. One more

986
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 2: thing I want to do. I wanted to discuss with

987
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,439
Speaker 2: you guys. Have you guys seen the images of Bill

988
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 2: Belichick's girlfriend at North Carolina football practice this weekend.

989
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 4: Basically springing the operation.

990
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 2: She is in a snake skin jacket. It's full length,

991
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 2: so I don't know it's Carolina. She had on underneath

992
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 2: the match. I think it was snakeskin, and it was

993
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 2: like a I don't know. Her belly was exposed. She's

994
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 2: twenty five. She's running around like telling coaches what to

995
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 2: do what not to do at a spring game. Who

996
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 2: is she? Like, how did this happen? How did this happen?

997
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 2: It's a great question, like meantime, Like Belichick is North

998
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 2: Carolina and Belichick are paying. That's a great song to

999
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 2: pop up for her.

1000
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,240
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's in like the Carrot. It's like snake

1001
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 3: skin with Carolina blue and navy blue, kind of like argyle. Yeah,

1002
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 3: but it looks like safety. And she has this a

1003
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 3: skirt that looks like it matches. It's definitely snakeskin.

1004
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just outrageous. They made Mike Lombardi the highest

1005
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 2: paid general manager in college football.

1006
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 3: He did listen, say what you want about the guy.

1007
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 2: Guy's loyal very They've done nothing. They've done nothing in

1008
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 2: the portal they've done nothing in recruiting nothing.

1009
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 4: Who did he have his picture with last week that

1010
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 4: we were like, what is he doing? Was it Lil Wayne?

1011
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 2: Little Wayne's got Lil Wayne Carolina?

1012
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 4: That'll boost the morale. I don't know, crazy, I mean,

1013
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 4: I don't know. How are you winning games? Can we

1014
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 4: also talk about Tennessee's quarterback?

1015
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 2: Good for them? So if you don't know, rt for them.

1016
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 2: Nico Malieva was a quarterback out of Southern California. He

1017
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 2: signed with Tennessee out of high school. It was reported

1018
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 2: that he agreed to a four year, eight million dollar

1019
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,439
Speaker 2: deal for him to be the quarterback at Tennessee. Over

1020
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 2: the course of four years. He sat for a year,

1021
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 2: yes for a year, and then played last year, complete

1022
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 2: about sixty four percent of his passes nineteen twenty six

1023
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 2: hundred yards nineteen touchdowns. I think five picks was very

1024
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 2: to his credit. Was really tough in the game against

1025
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 2: Ohio State. Remember broken helmet in that game and he

1026
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 2: kept battling, took a ton of hits and kept getting up.

1027
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 2: They didn't really have a lot of options. It couldn't

1028
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 2: protect him. Took a bunch of hits, So there's a

1029
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 2: huge I'm going to I'll do this as succinctly, hopefully

1030
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 2: as possible. There's a huge house settlement that's supposed to

1031
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 2: come to the next month. With that, College Athletics is

1032
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 2: hoping that there will be guard rails to nil, so

1033
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 2: that there will be contracts and protections and all of

1034
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 2: these things. So in the meantime, what's happening is everybody

1035
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 2: who's currently in the sport is saying, I've got to

1036
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 2: make the most money I can make right now. So

1037
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 2: you have in college basketball, guys in the transfer portal

1038
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 2: who are commanding four and five million dollars. These are

1039
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 2: non NBA players. They are transfer portal players in basketball

1040
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 2: who are commanding four and five million dollars to transfer

1041
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 2: to a school. So in football, the same thing's happening.

1042
00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 2: They're saying, are you interested. If you are, we're open

1043
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 2: to moving. So Iamalieva is his dad is reaching out

1044
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 2: to people all over the sport. Are you interested? Are

1045
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 2: you not reached out to Oya State, reach out to

1046
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 2: other places. Are you interested? We may be able to move.

1047
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 2: Dan Lanning, the coach at Oregon, they reached out to him.

1048
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 2: They also reached out to USC. Lanning tells Tennessee. This

1049
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 2: is happening, okay Tennessee, and josh Hipel says, oh no,

1050
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 2: it's not. We're good, goodbye, We'll see on down the road, kid,

1051
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,720
Speaker 2: and you're done now. You can't blame them for taking

1052
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 2: it full advantage of a market trying to get the

1053
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 2: maximum what they would. Joshipe will probably do the same

1054
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 2: thing if Alabama called Hypel and said we'd like to

1055
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 2: interview you for the job, Hypel would let that be known,

1056
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 2: and then Tennessee could match it if they wanted to

1057
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 2: mean it. Same thing, same rules. So they said walk,

1058
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 2: We're good. He skipped practice on Friday, and they said walk.

1059
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 2: This is the first one of the that's played out publicly,

1060
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,879
Speaker 2: but correct, he saysn't and no player has ever used

1061
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 2: the media to get their intentions out before the way

1062
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 2: that they did him and his group did last week.

1063
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 2: So Tennessee said good night and good luck.

1064
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 3: Isn't there a story that he and I don't know

1065
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 3: if this is true or not, but that he threatened

1066
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 3: to not play in the playoff game.

1067
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 2: I don't know anything about I haven't seen that.

1068
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 3: So people are people are saying that, People are saying

1069
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 3: a lot of people say they're not that he had

1070
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 3: threatened in not playing the playoff game if I didn't

1071
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 3: givehim more money.

1072
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:29,760
Speaker 2: I've always used that as the example of what's coming

1073
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 2: than inevitably, because there's a transfer portal that time of year,

1074
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 2: that inevitably that you'll have a kid who says, if

1075
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 2: you don't give me money, I'm leaving. So maybe he

1076
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 2: did that or not, I don't know, but apparently now

1077
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 2: they're kind of doing that thing that you do once

1078
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 2: you say goodbye, you tell all the secrets, and apparently

1079
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 2: he wasn't showing up to his end of the bargain

1080
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 2: in terms of autographs and all this other stuff you're

1081
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:50,879
Speaker 2: supposed to do with that n il, he wasn't doing

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00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 2: any of it. Here's the reality. If he was really good,

1083
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 2: they would have given him the money. They would have

1084
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 2: He's a middle tier SEC quarterback, and so they said,

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00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 2: we're good, best of luck, we'll find somebody in the portal.

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00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 2: But yeah, it was wild, and I think it's a

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00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 2: seminal moment in sport, in the sport college football, in

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00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 2: that I think more and more of these boosters, these

1089
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 2: collectives will say we're done. We've given you a bunch

1090
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 2: figured it out, figured out another way. Yeah, and I

1091
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 2: think that's what happened here. Yeah. But I think his

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00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 2: last name was Manning, and he was really good. They'd

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00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 2: pay him eight million, you know. He just he was

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00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 2: not a great player. Matt Waldman usually can identify very,

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00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 2: very great players, and he will join us. Coming up

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Speaker 2: next Cleveland Browns Daily eight fifty ESPN, Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily presented by Bally Bett, an official sports

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Speaker 2: All Right, Welcome back in Cleveland Browns Daily, eight fifty ESPN, Cleveland,

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00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 2: Working on. Matt Waldman, the creator of the Rookie Sporting Portfolio,

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00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 2: senior staff writer for the Football Guys. He will join

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00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:38,240
Speaker 2: us here momentarily. The NFL Draft about ten days away.

1104
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 2: It has been a long road to get to this point.

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00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:46,439
Speaker 2: We've had thirty visits, we've had Pro Days, we've had

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00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 2: individual workouts, we've had the Combine, we've had All Star games,

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00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 2: we've had all this stuff, and now it is just

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00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 2: time to finally make selections. So that will happen in

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00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:58,399
Speaker 2: about ten days. It can't come soon enough, Thank goodness.

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00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:02,800
Speaker 2: Long road, brother, Thank goodness. I'm so ready for it.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of like anything that you kind of feel overcooked,

1112
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 2: because like how you've you've read all of the stuff

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00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 2: that you need to read, You've watched all the stuff

1114
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 2: you need to watch, You've formulated your opinions, like who

1115
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 2: at this point, even you and I are those of

1116
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 2: you out there listening don't know what you want us

1117
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 2: to do? It too.

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00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 3: I think everybody knows what they want the team to

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00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 3: do and they are very yeah, adamant about it.

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Speaker 2: There's nobody walking around out there who's not sold on

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00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 2: the on a plan one or another who I think

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00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 2: could be swayed. What's going to happen last ten next

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00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 2: ten days other than something unforeseen off the field that

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00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,399
Speaker 2: would change your opinion on any of these guys. Yeah,

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00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 2: I don't know. You've heard from everybody, yep. And I

1126
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:48,479
Speaker 2: do think teams sometimes get like that too. All right,

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00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 2: all right, let's talk to him out. He joins us

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Speaker 2: now on the Twisted Tea Hotline Some Twisted harde sed Tee,

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Speaker 2: official sponsor of your Cleveland Browns, Keep it Twisted Cleveland.

1130
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 2: He's Matt Waldman, the creator the Rookie Scouting portfolio, Senior

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00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 2: staff writer at The Football Guys Meth, thank you so

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00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 2: much for taking the time. Let's I mean, we've talked

1133
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 2: about this for months now for you. What is your

1134
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 2: process like in terms of getting to the point where

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00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 2: you have reached your consensus on who you like and

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00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 2: who you're a fan of in the draft process? When

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00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 2: does it stop? When do you stop taking on information?

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Speaker 5: Well, I've pretty much stopped at this point when it

1139
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 5: comes to pre draft because unlike most people in this

1140
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 5: industry who are doing draft guides and it's you know,

1141
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 5: I'm just comparing and contrasting. There are a lot of

1142
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 5: good people out there. They meld where they think the

1143
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,320
Speaker 5: player is going to get drafted alongside their scouting reports,

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00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 5: Whereas I really just do scouting reports and look at talent.

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00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 5: So I study film all year long. I do. I

1146
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 5: have a pretty detailed process and what I go through

1147
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 5: and then I look at potential fits. And then after

1148
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 5: the draft, I start talking about and analyzing where these

1149
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 5: players fit, what they're charts look like, who the competition

1150
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 5: is going to be, what they what looks like offensively

1151
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 5: that would match their skills in you know, within that

1152
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,399
Speaker 5: specific offense. And I like to do it that way

1153
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 5: because it's you know, NFL executives tend to do a

1154
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 5: little more risk management when it comes to early round

1155
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 5: draft picks. So you know where the guy went. It's

1156
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 5: just like Corporate America. You know, guy went to an

1157
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 5: Ivy League school, and even whether they studied finance or not,

1158
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 5: Wall Street's going to come looking and they're going to

1159
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 5: have job there set up on campus. Whereas if you

1160
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 5: went to an ACC school or a community college and

1161
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 5: study finance, you might actually be more qualified, you might

1162
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 5: actually turn out to be better in the long run.

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Speaker 5: But the Ivy League schools aren't coming to look there,

1164
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 5: and they'd rather cover their assets on you know, in

1165
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 5: terms of certain bullet points when it comes to big

1166
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 5: name school production size prototypes, things like that, which some

1167
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 5: of those things can be helpful when you're as part

1168
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 5: of your process, but sometimes it eliminates people who actually

1169
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 5: have more talent before they've even gotten a look at him.

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Speaker 2: Matt.

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00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 3: One of the things we love talking to you about

1172
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 3: is the running back position, and it's one you were

1173
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 3: the biggest Nick Chubb fan when we drafted him, and

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00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 3: by the way, that looked to be very precient and

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Speaker 3: We certainly hope we can get him back in a

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00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 3: Brown's uniform. But overall, we've heard a lot of people

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Speaker 3: say that this is a very good or deep running

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Speaker 3: back draft.

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Speaker 2: Do you agree with that? I do.

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Speaker 5: It's a good class. Now, deep could be like that

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00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 5: twenty seventeen class where you know, Dalvin Cook, Alvin Kamara,

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Speaker 5: Aaron Jones. We were like eleven or twelve guys, including

1183
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 5: McCaffrey Fournette, who were all very good starters for multiple years.

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Speaker 5: It could be that deep, but I don't think we

1185
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 5: want to. You know, if we're going to be realistic

1186
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:57,479
Speaker 5: about it, it might be more like five to six

1187
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 5: players who give you at least one strong season and

1188
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 5: maybe you know, maybe they give you two to three

1189
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 5: seasons like that, if it's going to be a good class,

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00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:08,919
Speaker 5: and then there may be a few other guys who

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00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 5: are like the Chester Taylor Justin Forcet, Tim high Towers,

1192
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 5: who you know, you look over the expanse of their

1193
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 5: careers and maybe two to three times they've given you

1194
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 5: strong starter production, but they were never really slated to

1195
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 5: be the starter. They just filled in. They were on

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00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 5: a good team. They were good players who did their

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00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 5: job and then the organization said, Okay, we need to

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00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 5: draft somebody or this guy helping out. We're going to

1199
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Speaker 5: put the you know, put those type of players on

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Speaker 5: the back burner. So it's a deep class. But I

1201
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 5: would say there's really only one player on the board

1202
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 5: who you could probably put out there and say he's

1203
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 5: potentially special.

1204
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Speaker 2: And I assume that's our buddy from Boise State.

1205
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Speaker 5: It is. It is.

1206
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Speaker 2: Jen has pretty good.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Genty's got the run stamina that all the

1208
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 5: greats had, whether it was Jim Brown and Walter Payton,

1209
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Speaker 5: or whether it was even a guy like Jamal Charles

1210
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Speaker 5: or Barry Sanders. The way they begin a run, the

1211
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Speaker 5: way they move around in terms of being able to

1212
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Speaker 5: avoid people or work through contact at the beginning of

1213
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Speaker 5: a play. They still have the stamina at the end

1214
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Speaker 5: of the play to have a little more energy than

1215
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 5: the pursuit that's catching up with them or trying to

1216
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Speaker 5: cut off an angle. They still look as fresh at

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Speaker 5: the end of runs and even at the end of

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Speaker 5: games after a lot of runs doing that type of work.

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Speaker 5: Marshawn Lynch was the last guy I would say who

1220
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Speaker 5: had that level of run stamina that was special in

1221
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Speaker 5: the league, and I think Jenti can have that. He's

1222
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Speaker 5: just a different style of back than Lynch.

1223
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Speaker 3: When you look at this draft class, and we'll talk

1224
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Speaker 3: about the Buckeyes guys in a second, because I know

1225
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Speaker 3: you like both of them, But who are some guys

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Speaker 3: that maybe you like more than what you would call

1227
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Speaker 3: the draft consensus that's out there, and some guys that

1228
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Speaker 3: maybe you're lower on than we're seeing kind of in

1229
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 3: that draft consensus.

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Speaker 5: Sure, without a doubt. I'm a big Taj Brooks fan

1231
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 5: out of Texas Tech. He's five nine two fourteen and

1232
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 5: when you watch him run at Texas Tech, I jokingly

1233
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 5: call him Lemonade because he mitigates losses. He takes lemons

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01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 5: and turns it in the lemonade on a regular basis.

1235
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Speaker 5: He you know, he operated a lemonade stand there because

1236
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 5: there's so much penetration into the backfield on a lot

1237
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 5: of his touches, and he was good enough to be

1238
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 5: able to either avoid it, run through it, work away

1239
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 5: from it, and stay within the scope of the play design.

1240
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 5: Players like Leveon Bell and Frank Gore excelled at that.

1241
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 5: You know, Nick Chubb excelled at that. You want to

1242
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 5: keep your offense on schedule, and it's better to be

1243
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 5: taking a second in, you know, having a second and

1244
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 5: seven play where it looks like you might lose five

1245
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 5: yards and you can turn it into a third and

1246
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 5: eight rather than a third and fifteen because you try

1247
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 5: too hard to go for the home run away, you know,

1248
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 5: to get away from the disruptors on defense. So you

1249
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 5: want to keep the playbook as open as possible, and

1250
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 5: Brooks does that well. He's very mature that way. He

1251
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 5: presses crease as well, can run zone or gap. He's

1252
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 5: very has very good contact balance and he can catch,

1253
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 5: and his his agility numbers, you know, in terms of

1254
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 5: short area burst and changing direction speed, very similar to

1255
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 5: Gore and Le'Veon Bell. You know, another guy that I like,

1256
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 5: probably a little more than some folks, is Damien Martinez

1257
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 5: of Miami, formerly of Oregon State. He reminds me of

1258
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 5: the type of back that you know, eight years from now,

1259
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 5: he's going to be on his he might still be

1260
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 5: on his first team or on his second team and

1261
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 5: still starting, and they may have some hot shot young

1262
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 5: guy who who's probably faster than him, probably stronger than him,

1263
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 5: and is still working behind him. You know, kind of

1264
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:58,919
Speaker 5: like James Connor, the type of bat who can work

1265
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 5: between the tackles the ball well, you know, and also

1266
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 5: have the opportunity to be able to block. But he's

1267
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 5: also just a smooth, smart runner. You know, those are

1268
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 5: guys I think maybe in the later rounds, a guy

1269
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 5: like Brishard Smith of SMU, who was a University of

1270
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 5: Miami wide receiver before he went to SMU and became

1271
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 5: a running back, and he has a lot of Aaron

1272
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 5: Jones to his game. I think that, you know, with

1273
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 5: one year as a starter, he showed a lot in

1274
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 5: terms of being able to set up creases, showed some

1275
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 5: nice contact balance for his size. But he's a very twitchy,

1276
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 5: you know, scatback type who can also maybe lead for

1277
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 5: you in a committee, and someone who's already showing some

1278
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 5: good skills as a blocker. Now, guys that maybe I

1279
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 5: don't like as much as other people, you know, Marion Hampton.

1280
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 5: People may came out to be like he's going to

1281
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 5: be like Jim Brown, you know. I mean, well, not

1282
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 5: in Cleveland because everybody knows what that means, but you know,

1283
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 5: but everywhere else in the country where they forgot you know,

1284
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 5: this is a big strong back who probably could be

1285
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 5: a B back and an a back B back setup

1286
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 5: right away he can, and in the right team, a

1287
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 5: good team, he could start right away. There's a lot

1288
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 5: of talent on the board, but there's things holding him

1289
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 5: back from saying, oh yeah, he's one two with Ashton

1290
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Speaker 5: gent that's he's not there. Because one thing is that

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Speaker 5: while his four to four speed sounds great, you've got

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Speaker 5: to be able to get up to speed fast enough

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Speaker 5: so that you can run away from cornerbacks. And if

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Speaker 5: you're working through the middle and you can't separate from

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Speaker 5: the linebackers or the safeties as quickly because your acceleration

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Speaker 5: is not matching the long speed, you're not going to

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Speaker 5: get to access that long speed as much. Look at

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Speaker 5: Latavius Murray throughout his career, and he's a good example

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Speaker 5: of a big, strong back with speed who occasionally hit

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Speaker 5: the long run. But you know he wasn't that guy.

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Speaker 5: And Omaron Hampton's got a little bit of that pass protection.

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01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 5: I've got to fix that. He drops his head and

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01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 5: over extends, and you know, three hundred pounds dudes with

1304
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 5: great hands are everywhere in the NFL, and he's gonna

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01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 5: he's going to have to work on that and his

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Speaker 5: ball security while it's passable enough to ride the ride.

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Speaker 5: As a contributor, I've done some studies on past past

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Speaker 5: excuse me, on the ball security, and very few runners

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Speaker 5: over the past six years who fell below the line

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Speaker 5: that I have of demarkation of it's safe to ride

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Speaker 5: the ride. Very few of them give you even top

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Speaker 5: twenty four running back production at the rate of ten

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Speaker 5: percent over the past six years of running backs that

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Speaker 5: I've studied. And while Hampton is just above that line,

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Speaker 5: he's close enough that it's a bit of a concern

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Speaker 5: because he's a big dude who's a determined runner. So

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Speaker 5: he's a little bit on the on the lower end

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Speaker 5: for me. And I'd say some people really love Oli

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Speaker 5: Gordon because and they say, well, last year was better

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Speaker 5: than twenty three, was better than twenty twenty four. I

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Speaker 5: watched both years. Gordon is a classic back who needs

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01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 5: basically a runway like a gap, lots of gap plays,

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01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 5: pulling guards, just one crease where you just hit it,

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01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 5: don't think too much, and then you use that ability

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01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 5: in the second level to be able to make people

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Speaker 5: miss and run through him. And he can do that

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Speaker 5: but he's very limited compared to a lot of running

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Speaker 5: backs out there, and he's gonna, you know, he's going

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Speaker 5: to have to show that he can develop more because

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Speaker 5: when things don't aren't blocked perfectly for him at the

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Speaker 5: last scrimmage, his footwork and his ability to process information

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Speaker 5: really short circuits.

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Speaker 2: Talking about Walden, creator of the Rookie Scouting Portfolio. By

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Speaker 2: the way, you could purchase the Rookie Scouting Portfolio at

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Speaker 2: Matt Waldman dot com. All right, Matt, let's talk about

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Speaker 2: the two Buckeye backs. Two very different players. They are

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Speaker 2: incredibly complimentary for Ohio State as they made the run

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Speaker 2: to the national championship. What do you make of Judkins

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Speaker 2: and Henderson?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, both really good. Both guys that can

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Speaker 5: be immediate contributors for you. You who can start right

1342
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 5: away if you're in a you know, on a team

1343
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 5: with a depth chart that doesn't have starting caliber running

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01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 5: backs right now. Judkins is the guy that I think

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01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 5: really appeals more from a between the tackle standpoint, and

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01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 5: also because he's a little more versatile as a when

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01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 5: it comes to running different schemes. He's good with whether

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01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 5: it's inside zone, outside zone, duo or gap plays, he

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01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 5: understands how to set up blockers increases with those plays.

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01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 5: He's more powerful, he has better contact balance, he has

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01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 5: good bursts and good enough speed, and you see some

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Speaker 5: promise with him as a route runner one on one

1353
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 5: in terms of being able to take on linebackers and

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01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 5: know the field. He's going to be more of that

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Speaker 5: guy that you check down the ball to, and he's

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01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 5: got some promise as a pass protector as well. So

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Speaker 5: he gives you that three down back potential, that ability

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Speaker 5: to be the lead back in an offense. But if

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Speaker 5: you know you have a really dynamic player like Trevion

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Speaker 5: Henderson who's more of a scatback, he can be the

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01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 5: be back in your team and still be very productive.

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Speaker 5: Think David Montgomery to Jamiir Gibbs in Detroit and that

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01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:16,759
Speaker 5: kind of set up. Now with Henderson, he's a little

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Speaker 5: more limited in terms of the things that you can do.

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01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 5: So he's that guy that if you're looking for a

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01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 5: specific fit with a scatback who can run some outside

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01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:29,839
Speaker 5: zone but mostly a lot of gap plays, toss, counter

1368
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 5: trap plays, power where it's one creat he's going to

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01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:38,480
Speaker 5: hit it. He knows how to work within the scope

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01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 5: of tight crease plays and attack it aggressively, but unlike

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Speaker 5: say at Taje Brooks or a Quinn Shawn Jenkins, when

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01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 5: things don't go right, he short circuits a little bit

1373
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 5: more often, not as bad as say Ali Gordon does,

1374
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,680
Speaker 5: but he can short circuit a little bit when the

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01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 5: play's disrupted a bit. But very good receiver, unbelievably explosive,

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01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 5: and he's going to be an asset to a team

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01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 5: that's looking for someone in that Gibbs role. I see

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01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 5: him as kind of a what people thought DeAndre Swift

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Speaker 5: was gonna be, but better.

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Speaker 3: Talking with the great Matt Waldman. By the way, his

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Speaker 3: rookie scouting portfolio BOL is available for purchase at Matt

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Speaker 3: Waldman dot com, m A T T W A L

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Speaker 3: D M A N dot com. And you can tell

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01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 3: it is thorough and it is good and whatever mat

1385
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 3: comes on here, we are getting smarter and we love

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01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 3: that you focus on the skill, guys, and that's what

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Speaker 3: we're all about here. Weapons, weapons, weapons, weapons, weapons for

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Speaker 3: this Browns team. And so let's go. Let's go to

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Speaker 3: the receiver, the pass catchers. If you want to jump

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01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 3: lump the receivers and tight ends together that's fine with me.

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Speaker 3: What do you kind of make of those two groups?

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Speaker 3: And it seems that there's a consensus out there that

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Speaker 3: receiver may be not as deep, but tight end very

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Speaker 3: deep this year.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, tight End's pretty deep. And you can have your

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01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 5: pick of guys who are your Sam Laporta types like

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01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 5: Harold Fann or a Tucker Craft type like Tyler Warren.

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01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 5: Though you know, I would say that maybe the Colston

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01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:09,559
Speaker 5: Loveland's and Mason Taylor's are more compelling to me than

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Speaker 5: Tyler Warren, who seems to have been anointed the consensus

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01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 5: number one by a lot of people in different regions.

1402
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:18,599
Speaker 5: But I think when you watch him block, you actually

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01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 5: see a player who kind of hugs people, doesn't use

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01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 5: his hands well to punch, and he's not going to

1405
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 5: get away with that in the NFL. He's going to

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01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 5: need a little bit of work there. And he's while

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01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 5: he's great at the catch point, you know when you

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01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 5: watch him he's a as the mover that he is.

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01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:35,719
Speaker 5: I would say that a Mason Taylor is as as

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01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 5: a more fluid mover, better all around route runner, someone

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01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 5: who can give you good work at the catchpoint and

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01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 5: also shows more promise right now as a pass blocker.

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01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:49,679
Speaker 5: But all those guys you know, Loveland, Colston, Coulston, Loveland

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01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:53,720
Speaker 5: and Warren and Taylor, those are some nice players right there. Fan,

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01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 5: And I think very is very similar to Sam Laporta,

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01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 5: a player I liked. As long as you're on a

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01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 5: team where the coach and the GM and the owner

1418
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 5: all line that they want more of a receiver than

1419
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 5: then they want a blocker, you know, And that's I

1420
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 5: think that's the important part about Tide End. Now with

1421
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 5: the receiver. You know what we're going to start seeing

1422
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 5: and we've already seen over the past three to four years,

1423
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 5: is that with the advent of eleven you know, seven

1424
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:24,720
Speaker 5: on seven football, all year round flag football, more coaches

1425
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 5: out there on Instagram and social media advertising their wares,

1426
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 5: and players doing more training. There are more and more

1427
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:35,719
Speaker 5: players who have the basic tools to become good rock runners.

1428
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 5: And when they get and they're very and when they

1429
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:40,719
Speaker 5: get to college and they're strong athletes and they can

1430
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 5: give you different techniques. They beat people because of their

1431
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 5: athletic ability combined with their budding techniques. But they're like

1432
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 5: the guy on the job site who comes in has

1433
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 5: a tool box full of tools. But there's the old

1434
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 5: man over there who's got like three tools and can

1435
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 5: use three of them better than those guys can use

1436
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:01,599
Speaker 5: like twelve, you know, they can use more. Verstally, there's

1437
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 5: more craft. And so right now we've got this whole

1438
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:09,599
Speaker 5: like kind of like this big glut of receivers who

1439
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 5: are who At one time we would used to say, oh,

1440
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 5: this is a promising guy. In two to three years,

1441
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 5: he could be a starter for you. But there's so

1442
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 5: many guys like that, and now it's getting you know,

1443
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 5: it's getting filled up like that with a glut that

1444
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:25,719
Speaker 5: it's a little harder to look at, you know, whether

1445
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 5: these guys are really going to develop the craft that

1446
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 5: they need now at the NFL level because the receiver position.

1447
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 5: While Jerry Rice was still one of the greatest and

1448
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 5: there are so many players that were all time greats

1449
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 5: and had craft to their game, I would say the

1450
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 5: baseline for craft has rised in the NFL to the

1451
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 5: point that you know, now there's a glut of guys,

1452
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 5: but there's a lot of guys that in this class

1453
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 5: who could be like your second or third wide receiver.

1454
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 5: There's not a lot of classic X types like in

1455
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 5: AJ Green type. There's more guys who are you know,

1456
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 5: can play flanker or slot or both or and there

1457
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 5: most of them are players like that. And then you've

1458
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 5: got a couple of your t Higgins Mike Williams types.

1459
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 5: So you know, Ted McMillan is a good example of

1460
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 5: a player who maybe he gives you that Drake London

1461
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 5: type of option. And I know that there's some you know,

1462
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:21,639
Speaker 5: my buddy Matt Harmon, who's a terrific analyst on whide

1463
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 5: receiver play, does a lot about analyzing how many times

1464
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:31,440
Speaker 5: a player gets separation, and that's a good results oriented analysis.

1465
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 5: But I would say that you know, counting how often

1466
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 5: they do it is different than how crafty they are

1467
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:39,719
Speaker 5: at doing it and how that projects to the NFL.

1468
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 5: And sometimes a good compliment is to look at that

1469
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 5: and see a guy like tet and Go doesn't separate

1470
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 5: as well as people think, So maybe he's more the

1471
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 5: Drake London slot player like he was London was last

1472
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 5: year with his career year, than he is the outside guy.

1473
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 5: But then there's guys like Luther Burden, who I think

1474
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:01,559
Speaker 5: would have compared quite well with any of the top

1475
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 5: three to five receivers in last year's great class, And

1476
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 5: I know people look, yeah, they look at his you know,

1477
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 5: they look at his you know work in RPOs and

1478
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 5: they think he's more of a gadget guy because when

1479
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 5: you start adding up the statistical modeling of how often

1480
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 5: they use in certain snaps or like he's just not

1481
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 5: used downfield enough. But when you watch the totality of

1482
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 5: his games and how good his craft is at setting

1483
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 5: up you know, getting released, setting up routes with his stem,

1484
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 5: how he breaks to the ball, how good he is

1485
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:37,759
Speaker 5: at being able to set up defenders with the ball

1486
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 5: in the air and use good techniques to box them

1487
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 5: out and position himself or position or date defenders while

1488
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:49,840
Speaker 5: on scramble drills and position himself in one direction and

1489
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 5: then uncover late because he knows where the ball is

1490
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 5: going to go. Things that Lad McConkey was really good at.

1491
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 5: And justin Herbert picked up on like in May and said,

1492
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:01,799
Speaker 5: oh my god, a five year veteran the way he played,

1493
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:04,639
Speaker 5: Luther Burden does a lot of that, and he can

1494
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 5: play all three positions for you. He's ideally a slot

1495
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 5: or a flanker. Honestly a flanker to me, but he

1496
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 5: could play all three if you need him to. I

1497
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 5: think he's the best receiver in this class. And that's

1498
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 5: no slight to like Travis excuse me to Hunter Travis Hunter,

1499
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 5: because when you look at him, he certainly offers a

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01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:25,680
Speaker 5: lot of that too. I think he gets pinted to

1501
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 5: the boundary a little more often than the narrative says,

1502
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 5: and he's got to work a little bit better at

1503
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:36,599
Speaker 5: getting separation against press skilled press coverage. But he also

1504
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 5: would have been among my top five to six players

1505
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 5: last year and he's going to be an instant impact guy,

1506
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:44,799
Speaker 5: just depends on I think he feels the bounded determined

1507
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 5: that he wants to be Jim Thorpe or Sammy Bough

1508
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 5: and play both positions, and we'll see how that works,

1509
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 5: you know, And look, I am I live. I don't

1510
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:56,640
Speaker 5: live far from where he played in high school. So

1511
01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 5: I like these Georgia kids, you know, Georgia Bays kids

1512
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 5: who have some of this uh you know this clay

1513
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 5: that looks like it where we live on Mars, and

1514
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 5: maybe they are I got a littleful of it. You know.

1515
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 5: It might explain Nick Chubb a bit, but you know,

1516
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 5: you're good. But there's a lot of there's a lot

1517
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 5: of guys like that. If you're looking for an X,

1518
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:16,680
Speaker 5: you might have to look at Jaden Higgins, who's more

1519
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:19,639
Speaker 5: of Mike Williams T Higgins type. If you're looking for

1520
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:23,640
Speaker 5: maybe a classic X who could maybe send you'd have

1521
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:26,560
Speaker 5: to go later at Isaiah and na or at Nebraska

1522
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 5: who played at Texas but towards ACL and ended up

1523
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 5: at Nebraska. But he's like six four two eighteen, runs

1524
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 5: a four to four, very physical and has the speed

1525
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 5: to possibly do the job. And he's just was rounding

1526
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:41,800
Speaker 5: in the form before the draft.

1527
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 2: Matt outside of Cam and Shadour knowing what Kevin wants

1528
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 2: to do offensively and we believe he's going to get

1529
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:50,480
Speaker 2: back to his roots and playing what we were offensively

1530
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. Which of these quarterbacks is

1531
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:57,680
Speaker 2: a fit for the Browns? What what is one that

1532
01:16:57,720 --> 01:16:59,559
Speaker 2: you could come in here. I'm not saying they develop

1533
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:01,680
Speaker 2: into who knows what they developed, although you were high

1534
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:03,320
Speaker 2: on Purty and he was the last pick in the draft.

1535
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 2: So is there a guy that you see some magic

1536
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 2: in outside of the top two?

1537
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:11,720
Speaker 5: Yes, I do. And you know I'm going to give

1538
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:13,879
Speaker 5: you a couple of ranges I mean, you know, obviously

1539
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 5: I was a big Lamar Jackson fan coming out of

1540
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 5: school when he was there, and I think a player

1541
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 5: who can give you a little bit of a Jalen

1542
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:25,559
Speaker 5: Hurts Lamar Jackson combined is Jalen Nolro. There's a lot

1543
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 5: to be said about inaccuracies at the Senior Bowl and

1544
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 5: fumbles where he got hit and blindsided and lost the ball.

1545
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 5: But listen, Alabama's offensive line was like Swiss cheese when

1546
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:42,639
Speaker 5: you watched this dude manipulate linebackers with pressure in the pocket,

1547
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:45,720
Speaker 5: getting a push, and him doing that manipulation as is

1548
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:48,479
Speaker 5: part of his second read, not his first read, looking

1549
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:53,599
Speaker 5: at the safety that every you know, halfway prepared, you know,

1550
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 5: color analyst might do on a national game and talk about,

1551
01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 5: look at him read that safety during the middle of

1552
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 5: his drop. Now we're talking about second read going to

1553
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 5: a linebacker and moving that linebacker two steps while there's

1554
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 5: a guard, basically getting pushed into your lap and still

1555
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 5: being able to manipulate and throw it accurately on time

1556
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:16,800
Speaker 5: with great processing skills. Jalen Milroe has that. Oh and

1557
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:18,559
Speaker 5: by the way, he runs like Matt Forte when he

1558
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 5: gets into the open field. I mean, this guy is

1559
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 5: an academic heisman. He's not great on the fade type

1560
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 5: of moonball routes that Russell Wilson was great at, so

1561
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 5: he's got to work a little bit on touch. But

1562
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 5: this is a smart kid who actually has a very

1563
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 5: good feel in the pocket. And he's not just the

1564
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 5: guy who, like Kyler Murray, runs around with his head

1565
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 5: cut off and they can't win games because he just

1566
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 5: extends plays and gets on ESPN. Okay, I mean, this

1567
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 5: is the guy who I think in a couple if

1568
01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 5: he gets to the right system for a few years

1569
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 5: and you give him at least a year, he could

1570
01:18:57,360 --> 01:19:01,040
Speaker 5: do it. You know, Jackson Darton theory like and very

1571
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:03,639
Speaker 5: good in the short range of the game, very good

1572
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 5: short range passer play action movement. You can do a

1573
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:10,040
Speaker 5: lot of that with Stefanski, and you know that could

1574
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 5: be good. But then when he has to move in

1575
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 5: the pocket, reset, and fire more than twenty five yards

1576
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:17,760
Speaker 5: down the field, he's scattershot. It's like watching Carson Wentz

1577
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 5: or lay in his career. So that's concerned. If you're

1578
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:22,960
Speaker 5: gonna go late, they's say after all of that, you

1579
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 5: just go you know what, let's pick a late guy.

1580
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 5: We'll roll with what we have right now, and let's

1581
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:31,720
Speaker 5: see what happens next year. That kid from Miami O

1582
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:36,280
Speaker 5: of Ohio, you know, Curtis Rourke. You know I didn't

1583
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:38,439
Speaker 5: know he towards ACL till Janey, Well, we didn't know

1584
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 5: till January towards ACL. But I'd watched his tape and

1585
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 5: I'm thinking, this kid moves has a good field for

1586
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 5: how he moves in the pocket. He's tough. He can

1587
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 5: throw the ball, you know, far enough that you can

1588
01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:54,400
Speaker 5: get some accuracy opposite field, opposite hash reads the field,

1589
01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:57,920
Speaker 5: can carve up a defense. Timing passer gives you promise

1590
01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:01,160
Speaker 5: in the play action game not unbelieve athletic. But then

1591
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:03,840
Speaker 5: I was watching him with his second torn ACL and

1592
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:05,880
Speaker 5: playing through it. Nobody seemed to know that that was

1593
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 5: what was going on since August. I mean, that's the

1594
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 5: toughest nailed dude who you'd probably get as a UDFA.

1595
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:14,760
Speaker 5: And just see what happens, because if it's just a

1596
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:18,640
Speaker 5: torn ACL, it wasn't any other type of issues in

1597
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 5: terms of meniscus or tendons. You know, you could have

1598
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:25,559
Speaker 5: the same ACL torn twice in that knee and you're

1599
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:27,439
Speaker 5: not going to have long term or even short term

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01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:30,599
Speaker 5: problem with it once you recover. So if his medicals

1601
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 5: check out and you get him practically for free, that guy,

1602
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 5: that guy is a good potential, at very least a

1603
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 5: journeyman backup who you wouldn't be ashamed of putting into

1604
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:47,800
Speaker 5: a football game if you had to. And I would

1605
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:50,839
Speaker 5: say that, you know, the Browns some of the backups

1606
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 5: they had since Flaco left. You know, we haven't been

1607
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 5: able to say that, so you know to the degree

1608
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:00,799
Speaker 5: whether we like them personally or not. So Curtis Rourke's

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01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:03,639
Speaker 5: a guy that I would probably feel pretty good about

1610
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:05,960
Speaker 5: when viewers can give you some of that down the line.

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01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 5: But I think Rourke could give you that potential to

1612
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 5: maybe be a gem that nobody was thinking about.

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01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:14,000
Speaker 2: Matt, we love having you on. We get smarter when

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01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 2: we do. Your insights are greatly appreciated, sir. Thank you

1615
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:17,559
Speaker 2: so much for the time today.

1616
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 5: Hey appreciate y'all.

1617
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 2: That was Matt Waldman.

1618
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 3: Again, get his stuff that you could tell the guy

1619
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:27,599
Speaker 3: is incredibly good, creator the Rookie Scouting Portfolio, senior staff

1620
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:30,000
Speaker 3: writer for Football Guys, And again you can get that

1621
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 3: rookie scouting portfolio and it's all you bought weapons. It's

1622
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 3: all weapons, quarterback, running back, wide, receiver, tight and that's

1623
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 3: what he looks at. That's his wheelhouse and you can

1624
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:41,639
Speaker 3: get it at Matt Waldman dot com.

1625
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 2: I would highly recommend it. You mentioned Rourke. Rourke was

1626
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 2: a five year player at Ohio and then played last

1627
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:50,720
Speaker 2: year at Indiana and was a huge part of that

1628
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:53,639
Speaker 2: flip for Indiana this year and was really good. Twenty

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01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:58,640
Speaker 2: nine touchdowns, five picks, seventy five percent or seventy percent completions,

1630
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:03,960
Speaker 2: three thousand yards, really really good for Indiana last year

1631
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:06,880
Speaker 2: as they had that magical season. I'm always curious because

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01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:09,559
Speaker 2: I haven't heard anybody bring up Curtis Orsk's name. I'm

1633
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:12,720
Speaker 2: always curious, like, how did you do against elite competition?

1634
01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 2: So against Ohio State he struggled, but that's kind of typical.

1635
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:18,720
Speaker 2: He went eight of eighteen sixty eight yards against the

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01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:21,200
Speaker 2: Buckeyes in that winning Columbus were Ohio State won by

1637
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:25,600
Speaker 2: quite a bit Michigan the week before, seventeen to twenty eight,

1638
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 2: two oh six, two touchdowns and a pick. So pretty

1639
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 2: smart stuff there for Matt. As always, you listened to

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1652
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:20,840
Speaker 2: approach draft, we are ten days away redrafting the twenty

1653
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 2: twenty four draft courtesy of Nick Bumgardner, The Athletic. He

1654
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:27,439
Speaker 2: did it. He went ahead and did it. He did it.

1655
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:30,719
Speaker 2: He had to do it all right, So right away

1656
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 2: he's got Jayden Daniels over Caleb Williams. Are you ready

1657
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:34,599
Speaker 2: to bail on Caleb Williams?

1658
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:35,160
Speaker 4: No?

1659
01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:38,760
Speaker 3: But I think seeing the year that Jaden Daniels had

1660
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 3: to say that, they would be like, yeah, I think

1661
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 3: Jadan Daniels would work just fine here.

1662
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:45,040
Speaker 2: I think I get it. Yeah, Williams is gonna be

1663
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:46,880
Speaker 2: fascinating with Johnson.

1664
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:49,280
Speaker 4: New coach and an actual system.

1665
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:52,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, it could be much much much better. Would surprise

1666
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:53,719
Speaker 3: me in the very least.

1667
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:57,519
Speaker 2: I do like that he I like the first line.

1668
01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:00,160
Speaker 2: He'd be almost impossible to say that bears regret at

1669
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 2: drafting Williams number one as a rookie had well, yeah,

1670
01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:05,720
Speaker 2: because nobody at the time was saying suggesting that they

1671
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 2: think is So he's got Caleb going two to Washington

1672
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:12,559
Speaker 2: and then Drake May goes three to New England, so

1673
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:16,600
Speaker 2: that stays the same. He just flops Caleb and Jaden Arizona.

1674
01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:19,840
Speaker 2: He has taking the leak neighbors over Marvin Harrison. I

1675
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:22,080
Speaker 2: think that makes all the sense in the world. That's

1676
01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:25,600
Speaker 2: a strange one. I don't understand that. I understand what

1677
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 2: happened or.

1678
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 4: What it started with the jersey and it weird. He

1679
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:31,759
Speaker 4: just it's weird.

1680
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:34,759
Speaker 3: Yes, it is weird, and watching him play is weird.

1681
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:38,400
Speaker 3: And I he's not moving in slow motion, but he

1682
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:41,759
Speaker 3: appears at times to be moving in slow motion relative

1683
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 3: to some other people. Yeah, Joe Alt Joe Alt stays

1684
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 3: the same Chargers, Okay, take their guy, boy.

1685
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 2: I don't know if I would agree with that. Like,

1686
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:55,439
Speaker 2: if you're the Chargers and you're redrafting this thing, you

1687
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 2: get brock Bowers at.

1688
01:24:56,360 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 4: Five, maybe you take that wide receiver.

1689
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:01,040
Speaker 2: Feel like, take brock Bowers.

1690
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 3: I give Brian Thomas right either way, but I mean,

1691
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 3: like stud Yeah, and he actually goes the next pick

1692
01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 3: to the Giants because Malik Neighbors goes earlier, so he

1693
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 3: has Bowers going six to the Giants.

1694
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:20,160
Speaker 2: Bowers brock Bowers was won twelve twelve hundred without a

1695
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:22,760
Speaker 2: starting quarterback. I have a feeling he would have put

1696
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:26,160
Speaker 2: up a year with Justin Herbert. Yeah, guess the Tennessee

1697
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:29,160
Speaker 2: Titans he's got. Taking bon Nix the quarterback out of orbit.

1698
01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:31,639
Speaker 2: I wish they did. Then would be a different scenario

1699
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:32,679
Speaker 2: at the top of this draft.

1700
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:34,360
Speaker 3: J C.

1701
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 2: Latham was their pick last year, the seventh in the

1702
01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:39,800
Speaker 2: pick number seven. No point of reference. If that worked

1703
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:42,760
Speaker 2: or not? Nothing Falcons then taking Brian Thomas junior, you're

1704
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:45,759
Speaker 2: a big fan of him. Instead they picked Michael Pennox junior.

1705
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:48,479
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I think it's exactly Listen, then they would

1706
01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 3: have had Drake London, Brian Thomas, b John Robinson and

1707
01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 3: Pitts with cousins. That would have been we're going to

1708
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:55,360
Speaker 3: We're going to places, baby.

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01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 2: I like that.

1710
01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:58,680
Speaker 3: By the way, Jayden Daniels bleak neighbors, Brian Thomas and

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01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:01,000
Speaker 3: he says could be tacked out the same way Joe Burrow, justin, Jefferson,

1712
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:05,679
Speaker 3: Jamar Chase, let's chill a little big, Ryan Tamas, Thomas

1713
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:10,960
Speaker 3: van here Neighbors is a monster and Daniels looks pretty's yeah,

1714
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:11,599
Speaker 3: I mean.

1715
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:13,760
Speaker 2: Jefferson and Chase. We were talking about potentially being the

1716
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 2: best since two thousand Yeah.

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01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:18,639
Speaker 3: Since nineteen ninety five, last thirty years, for two thousand

1718
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:19,240
Speaker 3: and five, whatever it was.

1719
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 2: We were looking at. They're on that trajectory. In Burrow

1720
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:26,200
Speaker 2: is birthnout bears Marvin Harrison Junior at nine instead of

1721
01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 2: rome A Doonzay out of Washington. I'm not I can't

1722
01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:32,280
Speaker 2: remember how it went with the Dunsay this year for them,

1723
01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:34,720
Speaker 2: if that worked or not. Jared Vers going to the

1724
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:39,639
Speaker 2: Jets at ten originally a pick they traded for JJ McCarthy,

1725
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 2: then Minnesota getting McCarthy at eleven. They just didn't have

1726
01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 2: to flip to be able to do it. Yep. So

1727
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 2: there you go. Anything else interesting here? Panics to the

1728
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 2: Raiders at thirteen. Raiders Lad McConney, mcconackey in the round.

1729
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 3: Cooper Dejean goes fifteen, so he gets into the first

1730
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:56,559
Speaker 3: round as well.

1731
01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 2: Zack Frasier, oh Latham goes later.

1732
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:05,800
Speaker 3: Quinnon Mitchell, Brayden Fisk to Pittsburgh. He was he was

1733
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 3: as good, he was very good.

1734
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:09,360
Speaker 2: Both those guys were at the Rams, right, Fisk Andy

1735
01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 2: both went to the Rams, both at Florida State.

1736
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:13,519
Speaker 3: And with quinnyon Mitchell off the board, the Eagles take

1737
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:15,720
Speaker 3: Nate Wiggins, the corner from Clemson, who I think went

1738
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:16,400
Speaker 3: to the Ravens.

1739
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 2: I have that right. Xavier Worthy twenty eight. So there's

1740
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 2: a guy Mikey Sammers. Still where did he? He was

1741
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 2: drafted down in the draft and he ended up going.

1742
01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 2: They have him now going twenty nine to Michigan. Yep.

1743
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:33,280
Speaker 2: A doonsay going thirty one to the forty nine ers.

1744
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:36,160
Speaker 2: Bucky Irving, Yeah, at thirty two to Kansas City.

1745
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:38,599
Speaker 3: By the way, Roma duneesay thirty first to the Niners.

1746
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:41,520
Speaker 3: I'm sure they would be they would certainly be happy.

1747
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:43,759
Speaker 2: Realized Ricky Piersoll was a first rounder. First rounder.

1748
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then he got shot right like on the street.

1749
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:49,080
Speaker 2: Yeah was it on the street? Yeah?

1750
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:50,640
Speaker 3: Over like a watch and we tried to run for

1751
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 3: his watch going to signing.

1752
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:53,520
Speaker 4: Ssh.

1753
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:57,799
Speaker 2: I know, shsh. That's not too bad. One year removed,

1754
01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:02,000
Speaker 2: that's not that many misses. I mean, everyone seems pretty

1755
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 2: happy with their things. I think the biggest ones that

1756
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:07,160
Speaker 2: are I think the ones that that the one that's

1757
01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 2: hard to strap your head around is that Marvin Harrison

1758
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 2: did not have the year that he had that we

1759
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 2: thought he would have in Arizona. Agree now they have

1760
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:16,280
Speaker 2: him just being redrafted to the Bears at nine. I'm

1761
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:17,439
Speaker 2: not gonna sit here and act like I watched a

1762
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:19,439
Speaker 2: bunch of Cardinals games, so I can't tell you what

1763
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:21,839
Speaker 2: was right or what was wrong. You heard Waldman's comments

1764
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:24,680
Speaker 2: on Kyler about how he just extends plays forever and

1765
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:28,200
Speaker 2: just throws it up. So I'll tell you that the

1766
01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:30,160
Speaker 2: team that is out here kind of hanging around that

1767
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:33,120
Speaker 2: you're that. I just am curious about his Minnesota with JJ.

1768
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 2: We know how highly they thought of him, but they

1769
01:28:36,040 --> 01:28:37,559
Speaker 2: went as all in as they can now and they

1770
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 2: got a roster that won thirteen games last year and

1771
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:42,679
Speaker 2: he'd better be good. Yeah.

1772
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:46,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, they let Darnald walk, so obviously they believe, they

1773
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:50,599
Speaker 3: believe we're gonna it's gonna be interesting.

1774
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:50,880
Speaker 2: I would.

1775
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 3: I mean, all the guys done is win everybody where

1776
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:56,960
Speaker 3: he goes, Yeah, everywhere.

1777
01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:00,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, Penix to the Raiders too, instead of going at eight.

1778
01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:03,880
Speaker 2: Isn't it funny? How you know if you go back

1779
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:06,160
Speaker 2: ten days, like a year from now, a year ago,

1780
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:09,599
Speaker 2: ten days before the draft, for sure, and the Falcons

1781
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:14,200
Speaker 2: had signed Cousins like the single mock that had them

1782
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:17,080
Speaker 2: taking a quarterback at eight none because it just made

1783
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 2: no sense. No, you'd get the best defensive player in

1784
01:29:20,120 --> 01:29:21,920
Speaker 2: the draft, or you'd get a weapon, or you would

1785
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:24,479
Speaker 2: do something like. The whole point of signing Cousins was,

1786
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 2: let's go for it, let's make a run at it,

1787
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:29,840
Speaker 2: and they chose not to. Morgan Wallen is bring is

1788
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1793
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Speaker 2: whenever they inked the contract on this, like Ella Langley

1794
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Speaker 2: wasn't the star that she is now, but she's like

1795
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Speaker 2: the biggest star in female country music at the moment.

1796
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Speaker 2: Like one banger after the Loaded show. Yeah, it's gonna

1797
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:56,920
Speaker 2: be loaded. It's loaded up.

1798
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Speaker 3: Man. There's a lot of buzz for the show. I know,

1799
01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:01,280
Speaker 3: every everybody had talked to is gone.

1800
01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:03,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot to like about that one. Yeah,

1801
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:05,320
Speaker 2: all right, so much more to come. You listen to

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Speaker 2: Oh buddy, I hope you get I hope you play well.

1807
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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's the spirit of Rory for you.

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Speaker 2: Let's a couple of days now, I'm gonna be I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna be fine. I mean the kid is he was

1810
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Speaker 2: chopping me up on the social things. Oh yeah, he's

1811
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Speaker 2: concerned about all sorts of things going on. I think

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01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:50,880
Speaker 2: there's handicapped discussions that are very controversial.

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01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:53,640
Speaker 3: So I played around the golf yesterday, teet off at one.

1814
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:56,880
Speaker 3: It was great, home by four for the entire back nine.

1815
01:30:56,880 --> 01:30:58,960
Speaker 3: But we had our in the cart, we had our

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Speaker 3: phone and we were watching the all time, had the

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Speaker 3: dulcet tones of Jim Nantz going. It was great, but

1818
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:08,040
Speaker 3: he was like, I turned posted by score and he

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Speaker 3: immediately called the guy play. We wanted a full audit

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Speaker 3: to make sure it was was a legit posting.

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Speaker 2: He audited the score time, yeah, which it was. Which, Hey, buddy,

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Speaker 2: have fun, thank you, have fun, enjoy yourself. You'll be

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