1 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, we hit the reset button. 2 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: Eight games down, nine games to go. It's sort of 3 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: the halfway point of the season. So what needs to 4 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: happen in our minds for the second half to be 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: as good as the first half. It's Cardinals Cover two, 6 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: Episode four eighty eight, and it starts now. Welcome to 7 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two with Craig Griolu and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals 8 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of the 9 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts visit acy Cardinals 10 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: dot Com, Slash podcasts, Going for Hopkins one hand to 11 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: catch in a touchdown DeAndre Hopkins. Here's Craig Griolou and 12 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: Mike Jarecki. This was a pretty cool email to wake 13 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: up to. More than twenty million people MJ watch the 14 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 1: Cardinals and Packers on Thursday Night football. That's across all platforms, 15 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: over the air, digital, you name it. Twenty point four 16 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: was the average audience, according to the NFL, the third 17 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: highest Thursday night football viewership in the history of the 18 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: Fox package, trailing only Saints Cowboys in twenty eighteen and 19 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: Viking Saints on Christmas Day last year, and you look 20 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: at the Vikings Saints Christmas Day twenty point five, so close. 21 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: And then you go back to twenty eighteen, twenty two million, 22 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: and that would have been the Cowboys and the Vikings. 23 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: So I mean, they're right there in the team picture. 24 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: I wonder what the numbers were in the final five 25 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: minutes in the game. It was from fantasy standpoint, from 26 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: a gambling standpoint, I forgot about the fantasy aspect. You 27 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: kind of lose sight of Aaron Rodgers, Kyler Murray, Aaron Jones, 28 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: d hop aj Green, and there was a lot of 29 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: fantasy players in that game. This team did not play 30 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: well enough to win that ballgame on Thursday night, but 31 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 1: had an opportunity at the end. And that's what makes 32 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: it so frustrating, because you're this close to being eight 33 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: and oh as opposed to seven and one and being 34 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: among four teams with one loss in the NFC. That's 35 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: the frustrating part of all of this. Yet big picture 36 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 1: things are still very good for the Arizona Cardinals with 37 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,839 Speaker 1: nine games to go. Well, you do hope is that 38 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: mistakes are corrected moving forward, that this does not happen again. 39 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: That's exactly what I thought. Okay, this should never happen 40 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: the rest of the season, and clearly, I mean for 41 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: the most part. I mean the team is still putting 42 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: up points. Maybe it's not as you know, thirty to 43 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: thirty five. We can go through the rankings, the ranked 44 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: fourth across the board, a lot of different categories. Defensively, 45 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: they're ranked right up there. It's one game, but I'm saying, 46 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: I agree with you, that could be a blessing. And 47 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: this guys down the road to where everyone's on the 48 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: same page. And the fact is, you know, minus three, 49 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: we had a miscommunication in the secondary with Buddha and 50 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: Byron Murphy on the Randall Cobb catch. We know the 51 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: Cardinals had a hard time stop in the run. Obviously 52 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: no Corey Peters in there and Richard Lawrence, but at 53 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: the end of the game they still had a chance. 54 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: You get the fourth down stop, you got the crowd 55 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: behind you, you start your own one yard line. It 56 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: could be one of those defining moments in the season 57 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: and in the career of Kyle Murray. You take over 58 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: and drive ninety nine yards for the go ahead, slash, 59 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: game winning touchdown to maintain that undefeated record. It just 60 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: didn't play out like we all hope that Hollywood ending 61 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: for Thursday Night Football. If they win that game, the 62 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: narrative is different. Kyler Murray out duel Aaron Rodgers, Okay, 63 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: and he's also back in the NBP conversation. I'm not 64 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: saying he's now, but all of a sudden, Aaron Rodgers 65 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: is that conversation. It goes week to week. It depends. 66 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry was in that conversation. You know, Josh Allen's 67 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: kind of tailed off a little bit. Tom Brady, you know, 68 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: losing a couple of games. Mahomes isn't up there. So yeah, 69 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: I mean in the Arab would have been completely different. 70 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: He went toe to toe and you know they did 71 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: enough to go ninety four yards in this case, could 72 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: have been ninety nine yards. Naredive on Friday, would Kyler 73 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: Murray's the MVP in the Cardinals? Orto and narratives, as 74 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: we know, Bird Gang change very very quickly in the 75 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: National Football League case in point, what happened on Sunday 76 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: to the Cincinnati Bengals, the darlings of the NFL. The 77 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: week prior you go into Baltimore beat the Ravens and 78 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: then one week later you lose to Mike Whites and 79 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: the Jets thirty four thirty one exactly. Mike Whites making 80 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: his first career start, throws for over four hundred yards 81 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: and now he can run from Mayor in New York 82 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: City and win. That's how things change quickly in the 83 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: national football and everything. Wow, he invested a second overall 84 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: pick in Zach Wilson. And when you hire a new 85 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: coach and Joe, how about Cooper Rush? Well, I was 86 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: going to bring that up because there's a possibility now 87 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: we saw Mike White, Cooper Rush, Trevor Simeon. Sunday was 88 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: the day of the backup quarterback like a law firm, 89 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: and potentially could that continue into this week with Kyler 90 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: Murray and potentially Colt McCoy getting the starts on Sunday 91 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: against the forty nine ers. Interesting Glazier on the air 92 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: said he definitely has an ankle spring, Okay, medical ankle spring. Now, 93 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: there were reports from I think Josh Winefizz he left 94 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: the stadium in a walking boot, and that's more to 95 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: take pressure off there. That's just hey, go home and 96 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: get some rest. We'll check back with you over the 97 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: weekend or Monday. After he says that, and he said 98 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: one to three games, and then all of a sudden, Darren, 99 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: well he said, he said one, two, three weeks, one 100 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,559 Speaker 1: to three weeks. Sorry, okay, let's be clear. So Darren 101 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: writes a story and all of a sudden he comes back. Well, 102 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: if he has a good practice, he can play this week. 103 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: So the report by Jay Glazer on the Fox pregame 104 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: one to three week type of spraying ankle. That's where 105 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: his exact words. And we heard Kingsbury on Friday, Kyler 106 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: war was sore. Murray said he got rolled up on 107 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: limped off the field. And as you said, Josh, Weinfuz 108 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: noted that Murray left the stadium in a walking boot. 109 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: But if you say one to three weeks, well, Thursday 110 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: night one week is this Thursday slash Friday. So look, 111 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: this is something that we're all going to be following 112 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 1: all week long. Kingsbury addresses the media on Monday and 113 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: Wednesday and Friday. He'll get asked about it daily practice, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. 114 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: All eyes are going to be on number one. The 115 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: good news is here one ten days between games Thursday 116 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: to this coming Sunday number two. Kyler's yet to miss 117 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: a ball game number three. If he does, and the 118 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: Cardinals choose to play this cautiously like the Dallas Cowboys 119 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: sitting Dak Prescott and Cooper Rush leads them to a 120 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: win on the road at Minnesota, you do have, I 121 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: think a very capable backup in quote McCoy, a veteran 122 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: who is still I think learning this offense, but probably 123 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: a lot more familiar than when he first got here. 124 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: But someone that I think we talked about in the offseason. 125 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: You need someone for just to be prepared for a two, 126 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: three four week stretch in the event something happens to 127 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: your starter, and I think Culte McCoy gave the Cardinals 128 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: the best option. He's here, and look, let's hope that 129 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: doesn't happen, that scenario doesn't play out. Yet at the 130 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: same time, as you look big picture, is it about 131 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: week nine or is it about this entire season? And 132 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: looking at December and January, that's those are conversations that 133 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: we can have. But bottom line, it's the front office 134 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: and coaching staff and the training staff that it will 135 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: have the conversations that really matter. And you can make 136 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: the same case for DeAndre Hopkins. True, now we know 137 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: he doesn't practice a lot any plays in this time 138 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: around it. I mean, clearly the ankle was an issue 139 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: until he went back in there, I guess in the 140 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. But you know when the injury reports going 141 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: to come out? Is he out there? Like you said, 142 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: he hasn't missed games in Colt McCoy to me, in 143 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: a pinch, he can run this offense. They have enough weapons, 144 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: and if they get Rodney Hudson back and they decided 145 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: to maybe Max Garcia is your right guard. All of 146 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: a sudden, and you get Corey Peters and Richard Lawrence back, 147 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you've added some pieces to where 148 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: you think you he's not gonna have to throw the 149 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: ball forty times a game, and he does like to 150 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: run a little bit. But again we could see more 151 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: under center. We're getting ahead of ourselves, but we're preparing 152 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: if something transpires. They have to look at this as 153 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: long term. I mean one game and then eventually they'll 154 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: get to their bye week and then everyone gets wrested 155 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: up again. But this is the NFL, and when you 156 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: only have one loss, you can't afford to just say 157 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: we'll worry about next week now Again, the whole idea 158 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: is to make sure he stays healthy. We know the 159 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: last couple of years it's affected them down the stretch. 160 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: You look at where this team sits right now after 161 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: Week eight, they are seven and one. Last season after 162 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: week eight, five and two. Don't forget the bye week 163 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: happened in week eight and everyone talked about how that 164 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: finished three and six and you end up eight and eight. 165 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: I don't see last season repeating itself this season. But 166 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: until things change, that's still going to be hanging over 167 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: this ball club. But as you look at the NFC now, 168 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: in the NFC West, Cardinals, Rams head and shoulders above 169 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers and Seahawks forty nine Ers three 170 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: and four, Seahawks three and five. But within the NFC Packers, Cardinals, Cowboys, Buccaneers, Rams, Saints, 171 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: pant that's one through seven. And why these games are 172 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: so important and why we might look back at Thursday 173 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: Night Football and saying, yeah, that was a tough loss 174 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: and a key loss is because of head to head tiebreakers. 175 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: Cardinals don't win the division, well, they are a five 176 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 1: seed at worst. You win the division. Now, all of 177 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: a sudden it's one, two, three, or four, and then 178 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: the potential of either a first round by or even 179 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: having a home playoff game that first week or that 180 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 1: wild card weekend. So yes, it's week nine. We're getting 181 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: ahead of ourselves. But this is the first day of November, 182 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: and I think these are conversations that we can have 183 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: and start speculating about because the Cardinals have put themselves 184 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: in this position. I don't have the Packers' schedule in 185 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 1: front of me, so I probably shouldn't make this comment, 186 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: but I have a hard time thinking they're gonna run 187 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: the table n go fifteen and one. From what we've 188 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: seen so far, I tend to agree with you, and 189 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: again I should before I speak, I should have looked 190 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: at their schedule. But I kind of have an idea. 191 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 1: With division games, we know that the lines are struggling, 192 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: the Bears, I mean, they're trying to find a quarterback 193 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: for the future, and the Vikings, you know, they've been 194 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: up and down. So it's they're going to run away 195 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: with that division, don't There's no doubt in my mind. 196 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: But I just think maybe the top team is fourteen 197 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: and two, maybe it's thirteen and three. Clearly, Green Bay 198 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: right now would have the tiebreaker, but we still have 199 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 1: half the season to go. The Cardinals still have what 200 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: nine games, correct, Yeah, so, and they can go six 201 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: and three and all of a sudden you're looking at 202 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: double digits. You know, five and four, you mightn't be 203 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:41,119 Speaker 1: playing your best football though, in November going into December. 204 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: Here is the Packers scheduling. I answer at the Chiefs 205 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: this weekend home to the Seahawks, at the Vikings, home 206 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: to the Rams, home to the Bears, at the Ravens, 207 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: home to the Browns, host the Vikings at the Lions. 208 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: That's not an easy schedule, including this week against the Chiefs, 209 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: because yeah they're three and four, but I mean that's 210 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: still to be a very scary team. And then you 211 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: have to host the Seahawks, who knows what's going on 212 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: with Seattle and said the Rams and they've got the 213 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: Rams that is at lambeau Field. And then you do 214 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: travel to Baltimore if you're the Packers. See and that 215 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: tells me just you know, we can look at the 216 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: Cardinals playing the Vikings even though you know they missed 217 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: a kick, but they won that game. Then he looks 218 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: at Jacksonville and then you look at the Houston Texans, 219 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: so the Cardinals, they won the games are supposed to 220 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: looks like Green Bay may have had a favorable schedule 221 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: in the first part and now it's going to be 222 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: a look more difficult in the second half. Well, you 223 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: can kind of say the same thing about the Rams, 224 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: because that, to me is the more interesting aspects of 225 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 1: this because, like I said, you don't win your division, 226 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: you're a five set at worst, because the division winners 227 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: take the first four seeds. If you can get one 228 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: of those first four seeds, and yes you want that 229 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: first round, buy with that number one seed. But you 230 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: look at what the Rams have and it begins this week. 231 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 1: Hosting the Titans on Sunday Night Football Tennessee is much 232 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: better than what the Cardinals saw in Week one. And 233 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 1: it goes back to our conversation, when do you face 234 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: these teams. Is it better to get them early or late? 235 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 1: Get them early before they have a chance to get 236 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 1: on a roll, or do you get them late when 237 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: potential injuries ie Derrick Henry and the reports that he 238 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: might be lost for a good chunk of the rest 239 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: of the regular season. But Rams and Titans on Sunday 240 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 1: Night Football and yes we're rooting for Tennessee. And then 241 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: the Rams are at San Francisco, they have to go 242 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 1: to lambeau Field. They do host the Jaguars, and then 243 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: that Monday night match up on December thirteenth, Rams at Cardinals. 244 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,719 Speaker 1: That is going to be huge because if you can 245 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: sweep the Rams now all of a sudden, you've got 246 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: a two game cush and if once again things play 247 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: out like we think they might. But the Rams schedule 248 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: is not easy at all, No, and we can go 249 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: through the Cardinals schedule. You know, I think the Cardinals 250 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: will be favored in the majority of their games, you know, 251 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: I guess we'll wait and see. Obviously, they got to 252 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: play the Seahawks twice, and that's a division game, very 253 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: familiar with each other. They got to play Russell Wilson 254 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: at least two times when he returns. My thing is 255 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: when you start mentioned four or five, there's a huge difference. 256 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: You win your division, you're hosting a playoff given guaranteed. Yes, 257 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: now the four or five seed would play each other, correct, 258 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: I mean, everything you've built up, that's the last thing 259 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: you want to do is go on the road in 260 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: the first round. I mean again, top four seed. Let's 261 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: not get greedy here. I'll take a top four seed 262 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: win your division. But it's going to be a two 263 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: arm race with them in the Rams. And that's why 264 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: it's so important to take care of business the teams 265 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: you're supposed to beat, and then you get tee it 266 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: up with the Rams on Monday Night football. But again, 267 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: I don't see the Cardinals running the table well before 268 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: that Rams game on Monday nights at San Francisco. That's 269 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: the matchup. This week, you host the Panthers on the 270 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: road at Seattle as Russell Wilson back. Then you enjoy 271 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: your bye week before going to Chicago before hosting the 272 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: Rams on Monday Night football. Again, all winnable ball games. 273 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: But when you talk about division matchups in November and 274 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: December even that's including this week with the forty nine 275 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: ers and the fact that it's in San Francisco at 276 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: Levi Stadium. Division games they can be a toss up, 277 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: especially late in the regular season. Should we say this 278 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: throughout the records for division matchups. Yeah, I mean they're 279 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: so familiar with each other. I mean, Garoppolos, unless he 280 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: gets hurt, he's the guy. I mean there. They need 281 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: to win. That's what they're trying to do, and they're 282 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: trying to make a run in the second half of 283 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: the season. But I do believe I'm in paper the 284 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: Cardinals should be favored in a lot of these games. Now, 285 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: some are road games. Again, they won four road games already. 286 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: We talked about scratching out six to seven home wins. 287 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: You win four road games, I mean, all of a sudden, 288 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: you're at eleven to twelve. So again, one week at 289 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: a time. Take care of the Niners this week, but 290 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: win the games you're supposed to. Well, I'll just go 291 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: back to the first matchup with San Francisco, the toughest 292 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: test to date as far as within a win, seventeen 293 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: to ten. I know we'll get much more detailed into 294 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers as the week progresses, but the 295 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: fact that Jimmy Garoppolo played so well on Sunday beating 296 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: the Bears in Chicago leaves no mistake about it that 297 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: he is going to be the quarterback this week, which 298 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: should help the Cardinals in a preparation standpoint, because they 299 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: faced Trey Lance in the first meeting and they weren't 300 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: quite sure what to expect, you can have a game plan, 301 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: but his athleticism and the ability to run the football 302 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: really gave the Cardinals a lot of problems and would 303 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: have Vans shose to say, I prefer a pocket passer. Yes, 304 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: Now Aaron Rodgers runs along a little bit more. You know, 305 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: you try to keep him in the pocket. But he's 306 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: so dynamic. He can you know, he can extend plays. 307 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: He could throw across his body. But instead of going 308 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: against the unknown, they're going against grappol and you know 309 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: what I like to say, he'll throw you one m 310 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: The Cardinals have been effective against him. I know, you 311 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: look at the records since he's been there, he's got 312 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 1: a really good win loss record. We know they went 313 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: there last year in Week one and won that game. 314 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: They won, they didn't win in with he wasn't even 315 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: the quarterback. It was c. J. Beathar And in Week 316 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: sixteen last year, so um Kyler Murray said after that game, 317 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: they have the best defensive line in football. He didn't 318 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: mention the Rams, he didn't mention the Titans, and that's 319 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: because they've been able to get to him. Now. Dfourd, 320 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: he was he out, he was he was he was 321 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: out okay. And they've also lost Jevon Kinlaw this season 322 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: in danne surgery, so they still have Bosa and they 323 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: still have that that interior push. Fred Warner, you know 324 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: how I feel about him. Molesey's getting better, Deebo Samuel's 325 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: a mismatch. I mean people can mean you see his 326 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: touched on seventy eight yards. I mean he's just again 327 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: Cardinals weapons, but getting Rodney Hudson back, settling that right 328 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: guard spot down, give it another week to hop to 329 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: get healthy and possibly Murray and I feel like the 330 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: Cardinals will go in there. I don't know if they'll 331 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: score thirty points. It was seventeen ten last time. Hey, 332 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: just get to win absolutely Cardinals. Cover two presented by 333 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: Hyunday Probab, partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As we kinda 334 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 1: hit the resets on this season, it's not the exact 335 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: midway points. Halftime is when we get to halftime against 336 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: that's the halfway season. We can't sit there and pause 337 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: and say, hey, we got to do a show because 338 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: we want to look back and look forward. So well, 339 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: let's just take it at quarters. I know Kingsbury said 340 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 1: he doesn't look at it in quarters. Let us go, 341 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: you know, September October and now we're in November. Yeah, 342 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: eight games two months and the Cardinals at seven to one. 343 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: I think everyone will take it ten times out of 344 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 1: ten times. There's not many that expected the Cardinals to 345 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: be in this position, but they are, so question becomes 346 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: how do they maintain this spot and keep things going 347 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: and understanding they are going to be bumps in the 348 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: road and maybe even an their loss or two. And 349 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: I think injuries certainly factor in a lot of this. 350 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: You brought up the offensive line. Rodney Hudson, Max Garcia 351 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: both will try to practice this week on Wednesday, at 352 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: least that was the indication from Bed coach Cliff Kingsbury 353 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: on Friday. You get those two back. What is going 354 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 1: on with Justin Murray still on injury reserve with a 355 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,719 Speaker 1: back issue. Those three pieces, if they come back healthy, 356 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, I feel much better about 357 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: the offensive line. And that's nothing against Sean Harlowe and 358 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: Josh Jones, but there has been some pressure up the 359 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: middle because of Hudson's absence that Kyler Murray is taking 360 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: more hits than he should and more than necessary. So 361 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: get that upside down you that you always talk about MJ. 362 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: I'll feel much better about this offense even if DeAndre 363 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: Hopkins is less than one hundred percent. But the offense 364 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: is a line to me and what this team does 365 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: forward as far as injuries or making a change that 366 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: needs to be figured out this week. Couldn't agree more. 367 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: And you know, I'm not giving up on Josh Jones. 368 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 1: It's just you know, he's going through a little bit 369 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: of struggle. And when we see this, I mean it's 370 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 1: two or three pressures, but it's when Kylo is getting hit. 371 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 1: He played seventy one snaps in the game, so I'm 372 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: sure he grated out maybe better and run blocking than 373 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: he did in pass protection. It's just one of those 374 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 1: plays where you see him getting pushed back and then 375 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: Murray's getting sacked. And again it was one or two times. 376 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: So but that means that Harlow will be your backup, 377 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: which is normally his position. And you know between now 378 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: Justin Murray and Josh Jones, they'll be your backups. And 379 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: so all of a sudden you have some depth. Then 380 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: you know, looking at the depth chart and going who's 381 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: this guy is? How long has he been here? We 382 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: know Harlow's been here, and you know, so you got 383 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: really three guys that can help Harlow, Murray and Josh Jones. 384 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: If Max Garcia is your right guard, so again, Hudson 385 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 1: will settle things down in the middle. I'd love to 386 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: know as far as you know, you can look at 387 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus grades, but you know, how does the 388 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: coaching staff Sean Coogler, Brian Nakin, how do they look 389 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: at the offensive line as far as the center position 390 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: and right guard, because as we see it, we only 391 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 1: notice it when things break down, when Kyla Murray is pressured, hit, sacked. 392 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: We're like, wow, that's not good. Well, to your point, 393 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: seventy plus plays and we're singling out two or three 394 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,719 Speaker 1: of those seventy plus plays. Well, percentage wise, that's a 395 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: great game. Yet can you make it to where it's 396 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: one hundred percent? And just to the fact that Kyler 397 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: Murray is not scrambling more than he's needed, he can 398 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: buy time in the pocket. We'd like to see that, 399 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: But the fact that he gets pressured out of the pocket, 400 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 1: that's what I'd like to see avoided. Agree and along 401 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: those lines though, I mean, that's the strength of this 402 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 1: team going in this season. I thought it was the 403 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: offensive line and they've been tested. It's just based on injuries. 404 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: And I thought the D line now obviously losing JJ Watt, 405 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 1: you know, other guys are gonna have to step up, 406 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: but they're comfortable there. Yeah, I mean the trade deadline 407 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: is tomorrow. You know. I look at right guard, but 408 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: if these guys are coming back, I don't see the 409 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 1: Cardinals making a trade. It's a somebody call for Andy Isabella. 410 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 1: I still think they want him on the roster for 411 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 1: depth if anything happens to one of their receivers, and 412 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: Antoine Wesley has to become a hop or a J 413 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: Green if something happens in Rondel Moore or Christian Kirk. 414 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: I know that, you know, I know the fan base 415 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: is down on him, but they still believe in him. 416 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: From a speed standpoint, it's more about between what's between 417 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: the years. He did flash after he owes off of 418 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: COVID in training camp. Unfortunately, he should have played the 419 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 1: more preseason games, so I don't Again, I looked at 420 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: right guard and I'm like, there's got to be somebody 421 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: out there. But if they're getting these guys back, I 422 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 1: don't know how much you know, with the salary cap 423 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: and if you want to make a movie, can move 424 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: money around. So I don't want to say they won't 425 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: do anything. I sure they'll listen, but I don't see 426 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: them making a big would be wrong. Can they get 427 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: a trade where a guy comes in here and Ed's depth, 428 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: That's possible, But again, people value your draft picks. But 429 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: if they're going all in and you know you got 430 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: to give up a six or seven, we'll just have 431 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 1: to wait and see. But I don't know if they're 432 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: going to be active because of what they got coming 433 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 1: back on the offensive line. All right, let's flip it 434 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: defensive line. As we continue here on Cardinals cover two, 435 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 1: presented by Hunday, probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals, we 436 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 1: know that JJ Watt is looking for a second opinion, 437 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: getting more information on that injured shoulder. How injured is it? 438 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: How devastating of an injury is it? Surgery, according to Kingsbury, 439 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 1: is going to happen this week. But what kind of surgery? 440 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,479 Speaker 1: How long is he going to be out? He is 441 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: going to be placed on injured reserve and he is 442 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: going to miss a lot of time. So let's figure 443 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: out No JJ Watt. What happens? You do have Corey 444 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: Peters available activated off the reserve COVID nineteen lists on Friday. 445 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: He's missed the past three games, so you get him 446 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: back hopefully. Richard Lawrence is coming back after two game 447 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: absence with a calf injury. So you look from that standpoint, 448 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: there are six guys Jordan Phillips, Zach Allen, Richard Lawrence, 449 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: Michael Dogby, Corey Peters, and Lucky Poet no particular order, 450 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: but those are the six names, and you see a 451 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 1: lot of three down linemen, maybe two down linemen. Bench 452 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: Joseph What does he do from a defensive line standpoint? 453 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 1: And do they need to add more depth at that position? 454 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: I was told that they feel comfortable what they have 455 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: right now. Did you mention Josh Morrell? I did not, 456 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 1: just because he's and I'm glad you did. He was 457 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: elevated from the practice squad of the active roster. I 458 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: wonder if he gets signed permanently. But that is depth 459 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: on the practice squad at your disposal. And I like 460 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: the way Jordan Phillips is playing. I like the way 461 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 1: that Zach Allen's playing. You know he's gonna have to 462 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: be the jj Watt of that d line. Peters to me, yes, 463 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: he may not felt a statue, but he's a big 464 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: body in the middle and he's tough to move and 465 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: you start getting another in dogby. I like his strength. 466 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: I was told Craig that as of right now there 467 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: they like what they have, but obviously injuries do occur. 468 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: But I think the wild card is Josh Morrel. Just 469 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 1: towards a standpoint, he could do a lot of different things. 470 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: He could play on the outside, set the edge, he 471 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: can rush the passer. He knows the system, They know 472 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: what he can his upside, So if they didn't have 473 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: moral than yes, I would think they would look out. 474 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 1: But I was told on Friday, we feel comfortable with 475 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: that group right now with everyone being coming back, being healthy, 476 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: and the key to what you said, he knows the system. 477 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: Talking about Josh Morrel, you're not bringing in someone that 478 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,479 Speaker 1: has to learn and might be a little bit slow 479 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: to not in shape. Yes, so you would like to 480 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: see someone else so you have that seven man rotation 481 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: if you will, But also vance Joseph. We've seen him 482 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: adjust a year ago. You lose Chandler Jones in week five, 483 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: yet at the end of the season, the team still 484 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: had almost fifty sacks. I think they were the fourth 485 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: most overall. Without their number one pass rusher, coach Joseph 486 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: was able to scheme a pass rush and different looks, 487 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: different packages. Do we see some of that now with 488 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 1: the defensive line? Right now the Cardinals are ranked seventh 489 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: with twenty sacks ranked seventh. You look at it, um 490 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: their fourth against the pass. No, yeah, I mean the 491 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: force fumbles, the passes defense. Yeah, I mean that's where 492 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,719 Speaker 1: that's where I'm encouraged because I know Vans doesn't mean 493 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 1: you have to dress six seven linemen because the rotation 494 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: is more five or six. But if he goes to 495 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: two three lineman and then you look at some of 496 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: their sub package guys like Dennis Gardeck, and you know 497 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 1: they can bring in some you know, nicol and dying players. 498 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 1: But you know, Vans, he's he knows what he has 499 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: on the roster and it's a week to week proposition 500 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: how he's going to approach it. So we could see 501 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: more Nickel in time, but they feel comfortable right now 502 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: with that rotation, and I think that you know, obviously 503 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: there's going to be a little bit of a decline 504 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: just from having JJ Watt on the field number ninety nine. 505 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: Teams got to respect that. But it's going to allow 506 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: other guys to kind of, you know, make some place. 507 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 1: And he was freelancing a little bit and he was 508 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 1: able to cover, and maybe these guys was just more 509 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: stay in their gap where you know, do your job 510 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: and we'll stop the run and let the quarterbacks, you know, 511 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: get them off their spot. I'm not gonna say this 512 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: is what they should do or shouldn't do. But Chandler 513 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: Jones does have experience with his hand in the dirt. 514 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 1: Victor d. Mukage has experience with his hand in the dirt. 515 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: It's probably for Chandler Jones something he would probably like 516 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: to avoid. I think it likes to stand up in 517 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage a little bit more. Sometimes we 518 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: do see it as an outside edge rusher, but you 519 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: do have guys as an outside linebacker if you want 520 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: to flood the line of scrimmage a little bit, with 521 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: some guy's closer to the ball as opposed to maybe 522 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,479 Speaker 1: far enough away. Yeah, the way he looks and the 523 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 1: weight he lost and how great shape he is, I 524 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 1: don't know if I want to put him in the 525 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: hand that they're I mean it's an option. I'll never 526 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: say never speaking of Chandler Jones, I mean Craig I 527 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: was disappointed. Um no David Bactieri out there. You know, 528 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: a proven left tackle, franchise guy, and I know those 529 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: guys get paid too, But this Jenkins guy, he listed 530 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: him as a guard. I guess you can play all 531 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: across the line. He did a really good job. And 532 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 1: again it's not the sacks. It's just the pressures, the 533 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 1: herries and knockdowns or freeing people up. They need more 534 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: from Chandler Jones. I don't right now, let's time talk 535 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: about the contract. I mean that that though we have 536 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: to evaluate him on the entire seasons, and they got 537 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: the franchise tag, I do think they would like to 538 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: extend him. All that stuff that has you know, right now, 539 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: it's on the you know, the it's not in the 540 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: at the forefront. It's on the back burner right now. 541 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: But he needs more impact place and that might be 542 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: the best answer. If there is one guy. I know 543 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: he's not technically a defensive lineman, but you look at 544 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: that front seven. If there's one player that needs now 545 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: to kind of take ownership of this JJ Watt loss 546 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: and say, all right, it's on me. Chandler Jones would 547 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: be that guy now from a defensive line standpoint for me, 548 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: it's Jordan Phillips, Zach Allen, guys that play that position. 549 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: But we haven't seen or heard from Chandler Jones since 550 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: week one. Now he's gotten close. He's affected plays, but 551 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: he hasn't blown up plays. He hasn't parked his car 552 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: if you will, in the backfield a lot of times. 553 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: And that is something that I think really this second 554 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: half of the season finished strong. Chandler Jones had a 555 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: great start. Everyone was like, pay him now, pay him now. 556 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: But he's quote unquote disappeared. And now the question is 557 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: how much to his absence and being away from the 558 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: game because he was on the reserve COVID night team list, 559 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: how much has that effect affected his play specifically on 560 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: Thursday night against the Packers. Yeah, and I'm glad you 561 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: brought that up, because I will give him the benefit 562 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: of the doubt. COVID affects different guys. There was a 563 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: report he lux lost X amount of pounds. He denied it. 564 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: We know he came into great shape, but you know, COVID. 565 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: It could be tricky, and I know Connar really didn't 566 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: come back from it last year. I mean Larry Fitzgerald 567 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: and it was tough on him too, So I'll give 568 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: him the benefit of the doubt. But here we are, 569 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: let's hit the reset button going into the final nine games. 570 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: They need to see the Chandler Jones that we've seen 571 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: over the last couple of years of body of work. Again, 572 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: I don't if he gets ten sacks, great, I just 573 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: want to see him get to the quarterback. Now, forced 574 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: fumbles and you know, deflections and he had a deflection, 575 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: he one pass deflected. In the game against the Packers, 576 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: he only had one tackle, and maybe teams are chipping 577 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: him now. I did ask someone do you see the burst? 578 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: And he said, well, it's kind of hard to tell you, Mike, 579 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: because Aaron Rodgers get sort of ball very quickly. So 580 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: we gotta there's the pluses and minuses here, and when 581 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: you see fifty five, you're going to run to the 582 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: other side. So it's a combination and it come in bunches. 583 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: It's just a matter of time. I'm not down on him. 584 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: I just know that maybe he's putting a lot of 585 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: pressure on himself to put up these numbers. But also 586 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: he's a guy that wants to win and get back 587 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: in the postseason. So but I will give him the 588 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: benefit of doubt because everyone's different coming off of COVID. 589 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: Speaking of numbers, as we continue here on Cardinals Covered 590 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: two presented by Hunday, probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals, 591 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: the bigger issue for me defensively are these two numbers 592 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: twenty and thirty one. Cardinals ranked twentieth and rush defense 593 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: yards per game thirty first, second to last in rushing 594 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: yards per play four point nine yards per play. And 595 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: this is something that has gone a little bit unnoticed. 596 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: It gets brought up, but when you're winning, it's like, Okay, 597 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: we need to correct it. They now definitely have an 598 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: issue on their hands because of what the Packers were 599 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: able to do rushing the football, winning first down, keeping 600 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: the chains moving. This Cardinals rush defense needs to be 601 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: a heck of a lot better than it has. That's 602 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: going back to Week two against the Vikings. They were 603 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: very good Week one against Derrick Henry. They've had their moments, 604 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: but big picture, through eight games, it has not been 605 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: a very good run defense. Steve kim on Burns and 606 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: gam on Friday, he said, too much leakage in the secondary. 607 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: We talked about getting to the second layer. He said, 608 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: too much leakage. And let's be honest. That was the 609 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: first game where they were poor tackling across the board, 610 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: and Jordan Hicks mentioned that post game. Yeah, that's the 611 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: first time because we know how much they work on tackling. 612 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: It's more about technique, you know, making sure you're wrapping up, 613 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: making sure in the right position to make a tackle. 614 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: That was poor tackling in that game. That's the first 615 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: time all year we could say, Wow, I mean, you're 616 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: gonna miss tackles. They get paid. If Aaron Jones is 617 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: running down your neck, Okay, I'm trying to make the tackle. 618 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: But that was the worst game this year when it 619 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 1: came to tackling. You knew exactly what the Packers were 620 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: going to do. This is paraphrasing what Hicks had to 621 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: say post game. It was nothing different than they weren't 622 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: expecting or ready for. Yet you have to go out 623 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: and execute, get off blocks, tackle, gang tackle, and that 624 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: didn't happen Thursday night. Why this has not been a 625 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: huge vocal point is you've been able to take the 626 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: run away from teams because you've been up by two 627 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: or three scores to where opposing offense has become one dimensional. 628 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: We always hear that Vansh Joseph preaches it stop the run, 629 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: make them one dimensional. Well, that's happened in every single 630 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: game prior to Thursday night against the Green Bay Packers. 631 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: The offense has helped the defense as far as stopping 632 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: the run. But at the same time, you can't have 633 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: a j. Dillon average almost five yards to carry, Aaron 634 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: Jones almost four yards carry. Go back to what Kareem Hunt, 635 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: Darryl Henderson, James Robbins, and Dalvin Cook what they were 636 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: able to do against the Cardinals defense at points of 637 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: the ball game. Yet because of the offense, the rush 638 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,439 Speaker 1: defense all of a sudden wasn't as bad because once 639 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: again one dimensional, and they had to throw the football. 640 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: And it's gonna be difficult for those numbers to go 641 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: down in the next couple of weeks. Just because team 642 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 1: gets one hundred and twenty yards, you're still going to 643 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: see four or five. And you had a great set 644 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: on Friday, the Cardinals give up four point five yards 645 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: on first down that's a that's a vance Joseph down, 646 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 1: you know, try to get in two or three and 647 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden and second and seven. Yeah, 648 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: but I'll say this, when this team is forcing turnovers, 649 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 1: you can cover for that. And we know that they haven't. 650 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: They didn't turn they didn't force a turnover to this 651 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: previous game. But for a while they were forcing turnovers 652 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,720 Speaker 1: and they weren't turned the ball over. And that again, 653 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: you can go down the field twenty to twenty. But 654 00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 1: if I can avoid you from getting in the touch 655 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: own or a field when I get an interception or 656 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: a fumble, then all of a sudden, you look at 657 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: those numbers. Okay, we can live with that, but it's 658 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 1: got to get better as you get to the postseason 659 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: because when you get to December football, whether you're going 660 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: to Chicago or you know, we don't. We know they 661 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: don't have a lot of cold weather games. But you 662 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: got to travel with your defense, and you have to 663 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: be able to run the football, and you have to 664 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,919 Speaker 1: be able to stop the run. And then because games 665 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 1: are going to get a little bit closer here again, 666 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: teams kind of figure out how they have eight games, 667 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: They look at the film and go, Okay, we know 668 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 1: what they do. But for the Cardinals, I mean their 669 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: strengths going into the season. I still believe besides the 670 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: skill position players and Kyler Is, the offensive line and 671 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,320 Speaker 1: defensive line, A lot of what we're talking about here 672 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 1: on this edition the Cardinals covered too, presented by Hunday 673 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: probably partner the Arizona Cardinals is we've talked about all 674 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: season long. Yet the spotlight hasn't shown as bright because 675 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: it comes in a win, and when you're winning, things 676 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: kind of get swept aside. You don't really focus too 677 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,240 Speaker 1: much on it. Now that's US media fans. But now 678 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: that first loss, it is like, all right, well, hey, 679 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 1: what's going on? Why did this happen? Let's make sure 680 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: it's not a two, three, four game losing streak and 681 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,879 Speaker 1: this team gets back on the positive side and back 682 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: in the win column now, regardless of what happens with 683 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 1: Kylin Murray this week, the Cardinals again on paper, are 684 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 1: better team than the forty nine ers. They're a better 685 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: team than the Panthers, and I do think they're a 686 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: better team than the Seahawks, with or without Russell Wilson. 687 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,800 Speaker 1: Coming up on November twenty, first those are the next 688 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: three games before the Cardinals hit their bye week at 689 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers home to the Panthers at the Seahawks. 690 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 1: Very winnable ball games, yet at the same time, you 691 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: have to execute offensively and defensively. Now on the other side, 692 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,439 Speaker 1: I want to say their fourth overall against the pass. Yes, 693 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: they've been defending it very well. Yeah, and there are 694 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 1: number one force fumbles twelve, number two and fumble recoveries. 695 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 1: Eight interceptions are tied for twelfth. I mean, you're gonna 696 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: give something up, but it's it's it's the second layer. 697 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,320 Speaker 1: We've seen throughout the course of these two other opposing 698 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: teams running backs and when you get to the second layer, 699 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: it's different when you can stop them and put them 700 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: in third and long. That's that's sort of vans can 701 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 1: style down up the blitzes and stuff. So you're given 702 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,359 Speaker 1: a little bit up here. But again, when this team 703 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 1: is forcing turnovers and they're able to capitalize on playing 704 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: complementary football, that's who the Cardinals are. Look, things have 705 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 1: gone very well through eight games. We just want to 706 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 1: make sure that it continues to go very well for 707 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 1: this Cardinals team and not resting on this seven and 708 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,720 Speaker 1: one start and relaxing because while we've got games in hand, 709 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: not in the NFC and certainly not in the NFC West. No, 710 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 1: and clearly I never thought they were going to go seventeen. No. Um, 711 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: this could be a blessing in this guise where you 712 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: kind of get back to the basics. Let the guys 713 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 1: you know, get offer three or four days again the models, 714 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: one game at a time, one practice at a time, 715 00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 1: one game at a time. I believe they got enough 716 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: ship in that locker room with then that will not 717 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 1: look ahead. They have they don't give about trophies or 718 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 1: seven wins. Last point here on Cardinals cover two pretended 719 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: by Hunday Probab partner of the Arizona Cardinals. This week 720 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 1: on Wednesday, in the next episode of Cardinals Folk Tales, 721 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 1: one hundred four yards, Victory Ana votes as we flash 722 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 1: way back way before State Farm Stadium, and I'll look 723 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:29,240 Speaker 1: back at that stadium, votes Aeneas Williams's record time fumble 724 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 1: return to Upset Washington just two days earlier. How much 725 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,240 Speaker 1: that might have played a factor in that vote passing. 726 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 1: Episode six of Cardinals Folk Tales, available on Wednesday, YouTube 727 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 1: dot Com, Slash acy Cardinals and original audio podcasts are 728 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: available by searching Cardinals Folk Tales at your favorite podcast provider. 729 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 1: But I very distinctly remember one that game and then 730 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 1: what transpired two days later on Tuesday was a very 731 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:01,879 Speaker 1: close vote, very very close votes. But because of that 732 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 1: when I fully believe that it played a factor and fans, 733 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: people citizens minds on what to do at the polls 734 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 1: on Tuesday and why we have State Farm Stadium, no 735 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 1: doubt about it. And you know between Jake Plummer, Rob Moore, 736 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: they McGinnis, they were going door to door on that 737 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 1: Saturday before the game. But to me, the story go 738 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: here is obviously the stadium vote. Is why we're sitting 739 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 1: here today, is that mister Bean and Larry Wilson went 740 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 1: to the stadium and they measured the next day. The 741 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 1: next day that because mister Bee was big story and 742 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: when it came to the NFL and they measured it 743 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 1: to make sure it was her record. I just think 744 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 1: that's fascinating the fact that the owner will go there 745 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 1: instead of sending somebody else and they get the measuring 746 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 1: stick out. Well, the owner and general manager general, Yeah, 747 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 1: that's true, two people that typically it's not it's you know, 748 00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,959 Speaker 1: you send someone else out, but to have the owner 749 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: and the general manager at the time sit there and 750 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 1: measure literally measure at Sundevil Stadium. That is that is 751 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 1: one of those underlying stories. Uh. In side of this 752 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 1: one hundred and four yards victory and a vote, Episode 753 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 1: six of Cardinals Folk Tales fascinating, it was like fifty 754 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 1: one to forty nine. Yeah, that was a percentage. It was. 755 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,760 Speaker 1: It was very very close. I don't know the exact number, 756 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,319 Speaker 1: but it could have gone either way. Yeah. Hey, but 757 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 1: I know our former colleague doesn't believe in momentum. They 758 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 1: had momentum going to the polls. And we'll leave it 759 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: on that note as we wrap up. This edition of 760 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 1: Cardinals Covered two, presented by Hyundai, proud partner of the 761 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, has always special thanks to our executive producer 762 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: Jimma hundred for Mike Drecky. I'm Gregorio Loup. We'll talk 763 00:40:51,200 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 1: to you next time here on Cardinals Scover two.