00:00:08 Speaker 1: And I invited you here. I thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest in my home, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guests, your presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So how do you dare to surbey me? 00:00:47 Speaker 2: Welcome to, I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Wineger. I'm the host of the podcast. You are the listener. We work as a team. I think we're going to do a wonderful job today. You know, I got a special lunch for myself and I had half of it and save the other half for dinner. So looking forward to half a dinner, which will who knows what's going to happen. I'll probably have to scram something out up to supplement it. I can't worry about that right now. We need to get into the podcast. We're here. We need to get into the podcast because I'm thrilled about my guest, a very, very funny person, and I think everyone is going to have a nice time. Kara Clank, Welcome to. I said no gifts. 00:01:38 Speaker 3: Hi Bridger, thank you so much for having me. It's exciting to be here. What's going on in your life? Kara what's going on in my life? 00:01:47 Speaker 4: Not too much. 00:01:49 Speaker 3: I'm working on a game show. A game show, well, I mean it's actually kind of it's the show wipe Out. It's coming back, and it's coming back and a friend of mine is hosting it and kind of brought me in as one of her writer producer people. 00:02:11 Speaker 4: So I'm doing that from home right now. And yeah, no, that's been. 00:02:18 Speaker 3: You know, fun it's weird like because they want it to be edgy and funny, but it's also a family show. I have to write these jokes that are like a five year old wouldn't get, but a parent would be. 00:02:31 Speaker 4: Like, I get that, you know, yeah, exactly exactly. 00:02:36 Speaker 2: It went away because of COVID or did it go away as it went away. 00:02:39 Speaker 4: For I think a few years and then it went away. 00:02:43 Speaker 3: Yeah, weight Back was off for a couple of a few years, and now it's like the comeback. 00:02:48 Speaker 2: I guess, all right, and who's hosting now? 00:02:51 Speaker 4: It's going to be Nicole Bayer and John Cena. 00:02:54 Speaker 2: Oh that's great, what a combo. 00:02:56 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, they're really funny together. 00:02:58 Speaker 2: Now, I guess that's a pretty COVID friendly environment. You're just it's one person kind of scampering around a playground or what have you. 00:03:05 Speaker 4: Yeah, well there's it's actually teams this time. 00:03:08 Speaker 2: Oh you're kidding. Who made that call? It's teams of thirty. 00:03:13 Speaker 4: It's so many people, Bridger, It's so many people. 00:03:16 Speaker 2: What is happening? 00:03:18 Speaker 3: I was on set in December and was like, this is a lot of people. But you know, we got tested every day and it. 00:03:25 Speaker 2: Was right, Well, the show takes place on a testing site. 00:03:28 Speaker 5: Yeah, it takes place at a lab, so you know, but you know, I feel like they were taking a lot of precautions, as many precautions as let's say, a franchise of the Real Housewives, probably more. 00:03:44 Speaker 2: Where do they shoot this thing? Is it out in the valley or what? 00:03:47 Speaker 3: Yeah, well we shot it out in almost Santa Clarita area. 00:03:52 Speaker 2: Okay, so like an hour. I mean, I don't want to turn this into just the wipeout hour, but I just, for whatever reason, genuinely cure is. Probably because it just looks like a fun thing to be a contestant on. 00:04:04 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it does. 00:04:06 Speaker 3: But then like the like the last round they do at night and it was really cold in December and you're wet, Like, oh, it doesn't seem like my kind of thing. But it's funny because when you watch people go through the course so many times, like like when you're working on the show, you're. 00:04:22 Speaker 2: Like, no, don't do that. 00:04:24 Speaker 4: What are you stupid? 00:04:25 Speaker 2: Got there? Like you act like you know you would be able. 00:04:28 Speaker 3: To easily do it if you got up there, because you've now watched twelve people go through it. 00:04:32 Speaker 4: But maybe I'm just an asshole. 00:04:35 Speaker 2: So you're out there in Santa Clarita and they do they build these big It's enormous. 00:04:40 Speaker 4: It's a massive obstacle course. 00:04:42 Speaker 2: Like how big is is it? Like a skyscraper. I'm trying to picture. 00:04:46 Speaker 3: These football like over like the size of a football field and a half, probably more like maybe two football fields. It's huge, and well, the thing is eat. There's three pieces of it, so each course is like a football f or more like it's really big. 00:05:02 Speaker 4: And yeah, when I got there, I was like, damn. And you know, the signature thing of the show is the balls, the red balls, right, yes, right. 00:05:11 Speaker 3: So I only know about the show because the kid I used to babysit for was obsessed with it, like back in two thousand and you know. 00:05:18 Speaker 2: Twelve or whatever, right, did they let you test any of the obstacle course? No, that would be my problem. 00:05:26 Speaker 3: No, I know, I think because definitely because of COVID, no one was allowed to just go give. 00:05:30 Speaker 2: It a whirl, you know, give her a little taste. Oh wow, what a what a thing. So you're done with the game show now? 00:05:41 Speaker 3: Or well, I'm not going to be on set now, I'm just kind of writing to some commentary and blah blah blah. 00:05:48 Speaker 2: Oh right, because they do after they've shot it all. Not to ruin the. 00:05:52 Speaker 3: TV magic for anyone, but yes, they are not there the entire time, observing the course and making off the cuff remarks. 00:06:01 Speaker 2: That's like one degree away from my ignorance about this whole production. You could almost trick me into thinking that's how it worked. So what else are you doing to fill your days? 00:06:12 Speaker 1: Well? 00:06:12 Speaker 4: I have a child, so that requires some time. 00:06:19 Speaker 2: How old your kid? 00:06:20 Speaker 4: My kid is about to be twenty two months? 00:06:24 Speaker 2: Okay too, that felt like you were going to end at twenty two years old. I have a twenty math work. 00:06:33 Speaker 4: I have a twenty two year old child. I yeah, no, I she's she might as well be. 00:06:38 Speaker 3: Honestly, she's so opinionated. And can just be a real a real B word, if you know what I mean. And so she might as well be a moody twenty two year old, but no, she's wonderful. She is in daycare most of the day, so I'm able to but then when she comes home, I have to feed her and be with her, and you know, so that's kind of what's taking up a lot of my days, my core days. 00:07:05 Speaker 2: Are you feeling. We're very deep in it at this point, And there was a point when I felt kind of normal, and then I feel like we went over a little bump and I'm just back into this, you know, NonStop worry spiral. How are you doing mentally? 00:07:20 Speaker 3: You know, I feel in some ways I have adjusted to it. I remember at the beginning, I used to wake up every single day and remember again, and it would hit me, like almost like when someone dies. I'd be like, oh, yeah, we're in a pandemic, you know, like and it was hit And now it's like it doesn't even that moment doesn't happen in the morning anymore, because it just feels like it's so. 00:07:37 Speaker 2: Ingrained in our lives. 00:07:38 Speaker 3: I mean, the laws are driving me insane, the opening, the closing the who gets a vccine? That who doesn't get a vaccine? It's really driving me nuts. Nothing really affects me. I never really changed what I'm doing. I'm still not going out. I'm still you know, like just in my home. 00:07:53 Speaker 2: Were you much of a person that got out before or are you a homebody? Oh? 00:07:57 Speaker 3: I am an outbody. I love to be out like I am. I cannot wait to go to a party when this is over. Like I just I love socializing. I'm a real extrovert. I really love. Not that I don't enjoy home time. 00:08:09 Speaker 2: I really do. I love you know what. 00:08:11 Speaker 3: I love when someone cancels on me and I can just sit on my assching something I wanted to watch. 00:08:16 Speaker 4: I love that. But I also like love a birthday party, love a big party. Where you and I. 00:08:20 Speaker 2: Met at a party? Was it the uh? 00:08:23 Speaker 3: I think it was Karen's home home housewarming party, right, and you were you were djaying, I think from your phone. 00:08:30 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I was so like clipped up to. 00:08:32 Speaker 3: The bluetooth, and it seemed it was stressful for you as it would be for anyone. I think djying, being the DJ for a party is very stressful. 00:08:39 Speaker 2: Oh, and then you realized that no one really cares if unless the music is obnoxious or no one cares just you just need some sort of ambient noise. 00:08:47 Speaker 4: And it was pretty ambient. It was pretty quiet. I remember, I. 00:08:52 Speaker 2: Want you to take that back. It was a perfectly curated playlist. 00:08:56 Speaker 4: How do you think I know that you were the DJ? Of course I asked, I knew. I was like, who's playing the music? It was great. 00:09:03 Speaker 2: The real stress came for me when my boyfriend started. We were using my phone and he was trying to call me then and he was out of state, and it became a real panic and they had to switch the phone. I don't recommend djaying a party to anyone. Yeah, it's just a stressful thing. But yeah, that was. That must have been twenty nineteen. 00:09:22 Speaker 4: Baby, Yeah, yes, it was. 00:09:25 Speaker 2: It was. 00:09:25 Speaker 4: It was, It was. 00:09:26 Speaker 5: It was. 00:09:26 Speaker 3: It was because I remember I was working at drag Race and I had a babysitter watching my child so that I could come after. 00:09:32 Speaker 2: Work to that perfect perfect Well do you remember the last big event you had before the shutdown? 00:09:38 Speaker 4: Yes, because my husband had a big birthday in late January of fast Care, and so we. 00:09:45 Speaker 3: Had a big party here at our house, and I got a taco truck and we did a. 00:09:49 Speaker 2: Big thing and it was really fun. 00:09:51 Speaker 3: We had also just moved into our house in October, so it was a little bit of like a housewarming slash, you know, birthday party for him. So that was fun and I'm glad I got to see a lot of people I loved. 00:10:03 Speaker 4: Right before I never saw any of them again. 00:10:07 Speaker 2: Have you done any sort of socially distant hangouts or anything like this? 00:10:12 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've done some sitting outside six six to ten feet apart watching something. 00:10:18 Speaker 4: On a projector masked. You know, we've done some of that. 00:10:21 Speaker 3: I feel like that's waning a little bit with the cold weather. 00:10:25 Speaker 4: And just the numbers being so bad at LA. 00:10:27 Speaker 3: But I did do something a few days ago for a friend's birthday that was outside watching something on a projector and being very far apart. 00:10:34 Speaker 4: What did you watch the Real Housewives? 00:10:37 Speaker 2: Oh? 00:10:37 Speaker 3: Of we watched Atlanta that night, Okay, but I watched many of. 00:10:42 Speaker 2: Them on the only one I can speak to a Salt Lake City. 00:10:46 Speaker 4: Oh, I'm also watching that. 00:10:47 Speaker 3: That was actually we were deciding whether to watch Atlanta or Salt Lake, but most of us were caught up on Salt Lakes. 00:10:53 Speaker 2: We watch well, right, I think everybody's caught up on Salt Lake. 00:10:56 Speaker 3: I love that you're watching it. How are you feeling about it? 00:11:00 Speaker 2: Well? Look, I tried multiple times with the housewives over the years because people love it, could not get into it, and then, uh, Salt Lake was kind of my last ditch effort. I'm from Utah, so it was like, oh, here we go. If this is ever going to work, this will be the one. 00:11:17 Speaker 4: Are you from that area? Salt Lake? 00:11:19 Speaker 2: I mean, they're none of those women live in salt that's true. That's true. 00:11:24 Speaker 4: I think they all live in Park City or something. 00:11:26 Speaker 2: One in Park City, one lives in a place called Draper. One lives in a place called South Jordan. So they're like all suburbs of Salt Lake City. 00:11:35 Speaker 3: And then pay they make it look gorgeous on the show, don't they. 00:11:39 Speaker 2: Does it make you miss home most of the time? 00:11:41 Speaker 4: Not the women. I mean, like. 00:11:46 Speaker 3: Some of the women are beautiful, but I mean some of them have extremely bad plastic surgery. 00:11:49 Speaker 4: But like I mean, I don't even mean the houses. 00:11:51 Speaker 3: I mean like all the bees, all the bee the mountains, and like they're sort of like they've gone with the sort of Mormon Tabernacle choir like soundtrack where you know they'll be like and then it'll go into one of their houses. 00:12:08 Speaker 4: I kind of love that. I like the way they're shooting it. 00:12:11 Speaker 3: It's also it's also crazy because they shot it right before COVID, so they're. 00:12:14 Speaker 4: All like living free and to meet at restaurants. 00:12:18 Speaker 2: And it was probably shot up until like February or something. 00:12:21 Speaker 4: Because they go to Sundance in it, right, which is in January. In January, So. 00:12:26 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a funny show to watch because frequently, like they'll be at what is supposed to be on some level, a fancy event or whatever, and you're like, oh no, that's in a terrible part of town, or this is a dump that they're actual. So it's exciting to watch, and you know, every one of these gals has a different fun personality. I've been to this, you know, I know the exact strip, mall that, the Heather's laser face, what is that beauty bar? Yes, her beauty lab. I mean I know where all of these things are. So it's a yeah, it's very fun and I'm forever hooked on this show now. Yeah, I can't get enough of it. It's the only television show that I'm like watching regularly at this. 00:13:09 Speaker 3: Do you have any inside scoop on Mary's cult that she's the head of. 00:13:14 Speaker 2: I don't have that much of a scoop. I mean, just today I was reading an article about her being mad that some of the members of the cult had not given her enough money for her birthday. 00:13:26 Speaker 4: Yes, she called them poor and said that they didn't love her enough. 00:13:30 Speaker 2: They only gave her fourteen birthday cards. 00:13:34 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, you're one of these people that's like giving money that you probably barely have to her congregation. And they're showing that she owns twelve homes, has a full apartment for her clothes, as all designer gives her friends like Louis Vuitton iPods or whatever or like I'm sorry, what are they called air or whatever for just like a lunch like I would. 00:13:58 Speaker 4: It's like she's asking irs to knock down her door. 00:14:02 Speaker 2: It absolutely is. Her entire life is so bizarre. And I was also reading today that she wasn't originally meant to be one of the core casts. She was supposed to be friend of and I. 00:14:12 Speaker 4: Think they realized that they had struck gold, so they put her in. But that's why it's like, I almost wish that they had made that a little bit more public because everyone's like, why is she not going on the trips, Why is she not going somobile? Like why she needs to be with them? 00:14:24 Speaker 3: And I think it's because, yeah, she was supposed to just be a friend of right. 00:14:29 Speaker 2: The rest of the time when she's off camera, I just assume she's following the house cleaner around the house. Her cousin. 00:14:36 Speaker 3: She goes she's my cousin and she's worked for me for twenty five years, but I don't know her life. 00:14:42 Speaker 2: It's very incredible group of gals, and I can't say enough about them. Yeah, I mean speaking of birthdays and receiving things. You know, there's something I would like to speak to you about this podcast, of course, you know, I know the listener knows, the podcast community in general knows. This is called I said no Gifts now a few weeks ago, Kara, you agreed to come on the podcast, and I was very happy. Thought, Kara's a big, fun personality. We're going to have a pleasant time and then we'll be able to move on with our lives. Now this morning, I was, well, it was eleven am. For some reason, I was still in my pajamas, and usually I have to say, even in COVID, I'm fully dressed. By ten am. There's a ring at the doorbell and I think, what could possibly be happening. I go to the door and I look down and there's this enormous, beautifully wrapped box. And then I look down down the porch, I see you. Well, I can't even say to you. A woman with a mask which I quickly identified, was you, Kara Klink. 00:16:06 Speaker 3: That was actually my cousin who works for me as my maid. But I don't know her, anything about her personally. 00:16:15 Speaker 2: Well then maybe that, I mean, that may clear things up, That may muddy the waters further, because I have to ask, Kara, is this a gift for me? 00:16:26 Speaker 4: It is a gift for you. Bridge. 00:16:27 Speaker 3: I apologize for going against the cardinal rule of the pod, but I just I saw something that I just felt was you and I had to pay. I had to snap it up and I had to give it to you. 00:16:39 Speaker 4: I'm sorry. 00:16:40 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I mean, while we're here, should I open the. 00:16:46 Speaker 4: Gar I feel like we might as well, right. 00:16:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean why not. Neither of us has anything else going on in our lives. Now I have to say I've done probably I don't know, you're probably the forty fifth guest on this podcast or so. No one has ever wrapped a gift this beautifully on this podcast. 00:17:07 Speaker 3: Well, I confess I was a professional gift rapper as a teen. You're kidding, Yes, I worked at I worked at a very fancy boutique wrapping very expensive gifts as a teen. 00:17:18 Speaker 2: Now, did you know how to wrap gifts prior to getting the job? 00:17:21 Speaker 3: I sort of knew how to just do a basic gift frap, but this place sort of taught me how to do like make a big bow out out of ribbon at like what. 00:17:30 Speaker 4: You condemn you've seen, you've seen that. 00:17:32 Speaker 3: I included one that's a that's a handmade bow, and how to wrap like in their style. 00:17:39 Speaker 2: So that's sort of how I am. 00:17:40 Speaker 4: I learned a little bit on the job. 00:17:42 Speaker 2: How does that job interview go? Do they ask you to wrap a gift? 00:17:46 Speaker 3: I think it's because I'm fourteen that they're like, are you normal? 00:17:49 Speaker 4: Like you are you going to be here on time? You know? 00:17:52 Speaker 3: Like I think they just kind of check you out. You had to dress up even though you were in a basement. I was in a basement rapping gifts, but you had to dress up every day and like a cute outfit just in case you had to ever run gifts upstairs. 00:18:03 Speaker 4: It's like a very fancy shop in my town. 00:18:06 Speaker 2: Now what sort of things were you wrapping? 00:18:08 Speaker 3: Well, so this this is this fancy shop that's kind of just like it's literally just like gifts, Like it's it's wedding gifts, it's home stuff. It's like beautiful Chotchkei's in a way like Harring is like the name of this one kind or like Waterford Crystal, or they had like I would work there at the holidays. 00:18:30 Speaker 2: So there were these carrollers. 00:18:32 Speaker 3: I don't know if you've ever seen them, but there's this like specific set of carrollers, and I forget what the brand is, but you can buy, like if you are crazy about it, you can get like a full village of these carrollers. And they're wooden carved and they're in these like full outfits. They have muffs around their hands and every So I would wrap a lot of carrollers, but I would also wrap like expensive dishes in China, and you know gifts. 00:18:54 Speaker 2: Wow. 00:18:54 Speaker 3: They sold baby clothes and women's clothes as well. So clothes were the easy part because you can't break it anything. 00:19:00 Speaker 2: But did you ever break anything? Probably? 00:19:03 Speaker 3: I probably broke like one or two things that they would usually usually as long as they had another one in stock, they wouldn't get too mad at us. 00:19:10 Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's incredible. 00:19:12 Speaker 3: Did you have coworkers, Oh yeah, I had coworkers that I still talk to to this day. No way, yeah, I love we had. We just had so much fun, Like it was Christmas. We would like listen. All we had was a radio down there that got like two channels and we would just listen to Christmas music and have a laugh. 00:19:27 Speaker 4: And you know, it sounds. 00:19:28 Speaker 2: Love rapid gifts, I mean until you describe it just now. I was picturing literally like a like a dank basement with you. 00:19:36 Speaker 3: No, no, it's a little it was. It was like a well lit, carpeted basement. I should explain it that way, Like the offices were down there, you know I was. 00:19:43 Speaker 4: I was like dank. 00:19:45 Speaker 2: So a sewer. Wow, okay, then that explains everything. I mean. I'm such a horrible gift wrapper. How do you learn to wrap? A gift, can you. I'm truly looking to learn the skill. Now that I have this podcast, I'm like, this is something I should probably have some base knowledge of. 00:20:03 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, after you measure out the size of the box to the paper, I just think it's what does that mean though? 00:20:09 Speaker 2: Measure out the size? Like how much paper do I need for one box? I always have too much or too little? Okay? 00:20:15 Speaker 4: Well, for example, like here's one of my husband's nerd books. Okay, so this is small. So I could take this with a roll of paper, and I could put this down, and if I leave a couple of inches on either side, I can just cut across because I know that will wrap and make its way all the way around. 00:20:30 Speaker 3: But for example, what I gave you is in a larger box, so I just kind of I just kind of wrapped the whole rim. 00:20:35 Speaker 4: Of paper around just to say, okay, this will cover it, and then I cut okay, and then once you once you marry the two edges of the paper, I just think it's all about keep getting it tight like a tight seal, you know, and then taping it down and then making all your corners tight. When you do that part and That's what makes it not look sloppy. I think when people are just kind of trying to fold and just get it folded up and sort of get it wrapped quickly, it's that's when it looks. 00:21:01 Speaker 2: Sloppy, right. But even when I'm not doing it quickly, I just feel like I end up with like I'm literally like crumpling the edges together. It's just literal, like there's a lump. I wonder if it's just a natural skill that I'm kind of a geometry thing. 00:21:17 Speaker 3: I think if I post COVID, I'm gonna come over. I'm gonna give you a little tuitoring session because I think it's just a geometry thing, and like once you sort of visualize it and see it the first time, or like the first time you do it, you'll you'll know from then. 00:21:29 Speaker 2: On see this is That's the one thing I worry about, I think. I mean, I know my spatial skills are like below an infant. So it's like I wonder if that part of my brain just never developed and I just won't be able to wrap a gift. I don't know. 00:21:49 Speaker 4: I feel like, can you fold your clothes? Do you fold your clothes? I don't really I hang them up. My husband can't fold clothes. 00:21:54 Speaker 2: I mean he literally I show him. 00:21:56 Speaker 3: I go, look at this, you flip the sleeves back, you put it down, and he goes like, you can't do it. 00:22:01 Speaker 4: So maybe it is a maybe it is a genetic thing. Maybe it's a man thing. I don't know. 00:22:05 Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like there's there are probably plenty of men out there that can wrap a gift. 00:22:10 Speaker 4: Yeah, there probably are. 00:22:12 Speaker 2: You know. I think one of my brothers can rap gifts. Yeah. I don't know. All that aside. Let's quit dancing around this. I need to open this gift. It's enormous. I picked it up from my porch and I truly thought, is this what being at a wedding is? It felt like I was getting married because it's this beautiful pastel. It's this giant white. 00:22:33 Speaker 4: Bow. 00:22:34 Speaker 3: I mean, I have my wrapping paper, that's my wrapping paper for children's gifts, but it is all like for new baby gifts because it's sort of pastel, and like. 00:22:43 Speaker 2: Right, it's like spring wedding or baby something like this. The bow is looks like a firework. I mean, it's just everyone you have to come. 00:22:54 Speaker 4: To your untie it I think you're gonna have you're kidding, I. 00:23:01 Speaker 2: Don't have a scissor. M okay, well I'm gonna try. You could probably just do we do that shit, like the real wrenching, like your fingers kind of get you feel the blood circulation stop in your fingers for a minute. 00:23:20 Speaker 3: Yeah, And that way you can kind of save the bow, like my mom likes to save bows at Christmas time. 00:23:25 Speaker 2: Like I could put this on my dog. Let's see here, we're doing the squeeze. I'm squeezing and this is this could take a thumb off. 00:23:36 Speaker 3: My god, I probably should have told you that it needed to evolve a scissor because the bow the bow. 00:23:41 Speaker 4: I made it on top so it doesn't like unravel. 00:23:44 Speaker 2: Like. 00:23:44 Speaker 6: It's beautiful and it's a challenge. It's a little bit of everything. I wanted to get a workout, I really did. I was like, I want him he's been trapped inside. I want him to work his upper arms. 00:23:55 Speaker 2: Okay, I've gotten part. Oh my fingers have been insured in this process. 00:24:00 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I'm beautiful. So sorry. 00:24:02 Speaker 2: That is wonderful. Okay, now we're getting into the thing. I'm gonna unwrap it. 00:24:06 Speaker 1: There. 00:24:08 Speaker 2: I love to be the crinkle. 00:24:13 Speaker 6: This is ignormous. 00:24:15 Speaker 2: Oh and now you have done an incredible job of securing this. Now we've got the tape element. I mean, some people throw the gift in a shopping bag. You know, it's like, well, it's just scotch. Hopefully you can break down there. We go. Use most of my strength on the ribbon, but we're gonna get through this tape. Okay, now we've gotten into the tissue element. Might as well bring that out by the microphone. 00:24:40 Speaker 4: I want everyone have the sensory experience. 00:24:43 Speaker 2: Of course. 00:24:44 Speaker 4: Okay, So is there a box in there? 00:24:46 Speaker 2: There's a box? Okay, okay, Now it says Vermont lanyards on it, some beautiful little trees on it. I'm going to open this up. This is I've opened. Now this is the same. I mean, this is just so secure opening the box. We're opening. We're opening, We're opening. We've got some little things here, and now what is this. 00:25:11 Speaker 4: So our mutual friend Lizzie Cooperman I was speaking to her God beloved, and she told me that you love eyewear. 00:25:19 Speaker 2: I do love eyewear. 00:25:20 Speaker 3: So those are fancy croakies for your glasses. That's a layard for your glasses. 00:25:27 Speaker 2: Oh, this is incredible. It's like I've only ever seen a croquie in a neon color exactly. 00:25:33 Speaker 3: And so I was like, I'm not going to go and get the like the cheesy croaky He'll never use it. I'm going to get a classy Vermont leather handmade from Etsy Crokey, beautiful. 00:25:44 Speaker 2: For you. 00:25:45 Speaker 4: But then I got on this podcast with you and you're not wearing any glasses, and I was. 00:25:48 Speaker 2: Like, did Lizzy steer me wrong? 00:25:50 Speaker 4: Is this wrong? 00:25:50 Speaker 2: Is he not? 00:25:51 Speaker 4: Did he get lasick? Since now and the time that she told me. 00:25:54 Speaker 2: About this, I felt COVID was the time to get laser. 00:25:58 Speaker 4: If I'm gonna have my eyeball f I think a pandemic is the time. 00:26:03 Speaker 2: No, I do I wear glasses on and off. I wear contacts on it off. I mean, I am considering getting Lasik, but as I, yeah, this is just delayed Lasik by at least a year. Now, I got this gorgeous leather croqui. This is perfect, and I also have I would love to put these on sunglasses. Have you ever used a kroki before? No? 00:26:23 Speaker 3: Because I'll tell you something. I only got glasses like five years ago. 00:26:27 Speaker 2: Whoa. I had that not so. 00:26:29 Speaker 3: Great vision in college and I was like, I'm not ever wearing glasses. And I got contacts, but I have a stigmatism, so they were constantly popping out, and I was like, I'm not going to do contacts, like they're just not for me. So then my mom let me get a pair of glasses. They were so expensive, because you know, now we're to have Warby Parker that are cheap. The glasses all back then were like three hundred dollars. I threw them away on my lunch tray or something at college. I was too scared to tell my mom, so I just kind of went blind for the next ten years. And it wasn't until I was in my early thirties. 00:26:58 Speaker 4: That I was like, oh, I can't. 00:27:01 Speaker 3: My husband really when we met, was like, you cannot see far away, and I was like, no, I mean I can if I walk a little closer to the thing, so visions. 00:27:12 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. 00:27:13 Speaker 3: So I started getting glasses and it's so funny because he was with me the first time I put them on, like my prescription glasses, and I looked at the trees and the leaves on. 00:27:22 Speaker 4: The trees are just so more well defined when you're right glasses, And I was like the trees, and he was laughing his ass off at me. He's like, look at you, like you've just been avoiding seeing clearly for so long. So anyway, my journey with glasses has been shorter, and therefore I have not actually dipped a toe into Croaquyville. 00:27:42 Speaker 2: But Crokie I would. 00:27:44 Speaker 4: Really love to try. I want to you be able to test subject and tell me how it goes. 00:27:48 Speaker 2: I wish I had my glasses with me right now. I would throw these on. Of course, I have to you know, take a picture or something. I mean, for the time being, I could put this on as a start, like a you know, sensible leather chain. 00:28:01 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, and I got I ordered it from Vermont because I love Vermont. I was looking online for you know, non cheesy croakis, right. It's not an easy task, yeah, I mean, I think the key is to avoid the word croaky, and just I was like, what else do you call glasses holders? And then somehow lanyard came up, so I found these. And I love Vermont so much and I love all these I love all these artisans in Vermont who do like very leathery Vermonty. 00:28:29 Speaker 3: Stuff, and so I was like, maybe Bridger will be into this esthetic and it's. 00:28:33 Speaker 4: Very not la but I just thought. 00:28:35 Speaker 2: At all, it's very very stylish. I truly could have never imagined a croquie being stylish. So this is whoever is working on this as an incredible magician. How bad is your vision? Like, what's your prescription? 00:28:48 Speaker 4: It's not so bad. 00:28:50 Speaker 3: I don't know what my prescription is, honestly, it's like on a piece of paper and in my filing cabinet. 00:28:54 Speaker 4: But I can see without my glasses on, Like my sister wakes up in the morning and is blind, like because she's worn contacts for so long. 00:29:01 Speaker 3: I can see when I wake up in the morning, but it's not comfortable to watch television or whatever without them on. 00:29:07 Speaker 2: And I wear them all day, Like I wear them all the time. 00:29:10 Speaker 4: But I don't think you'd put my glasses on and go, oh my god, I have a headache. You know what I mean. 00:29:13 Speaker 2: They're right the kind that, yeah, my vision has gotten fairly bad over the years. I think I've been wearing some contacts or glasses since ninth grade. So and you know your vision just continues to deteriorate. I think it's finally plateaued. 00:29:30 Speaker 3: Have you read about the like the tech bros and the CEOs of like REDDA and stuff, who have all gotten they all got, like I forgot what it was like, they got laysick all specifically like after Trump was nominated, in case there was like an apocalypse, after Trump was elected to what in case there was an apocalypse because they were like in the apoc like in the apocalypse, when the world ends, you won't be able to get glasses or contacts. 00:29:54 Speaker 4: So we got to get laysick now. And I was like, oh my god, that's a big I heard something like this on NPR and I was like, this isn't what I really need to be hearing right now. 00:30:03 Speaker 2: But you are thinking about getting Lasik. I definitely thought about it. 00:30:07 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:30:07 Speaker 3: I mean my husband says not too because he's like, glasses are so part of your look now. But I agree with like not loving to feel feeling like beholden to having to have something. 00:30:19 Speaker 2: Like right to be an option would be nice. Yeah. 00:30:23 Speaker 4: And people have just talked so highly of Lasik. They're like it's easy, right. 00:30:27 Speaker 2: I mean, it seemed to me on paper seems like the most horrifying searcher. 00:30:31 Speaker 3: Oh disgusting, and they're like, you could go blind just FYI. 00:30:35 Speaker 2: Right, there's always like this shiny chance that they just fully burn your eye out or whatever, which does not. It feels a little uncomfortable, but I probably will have to give it a shot at some point, I don't know. Speaking of Reddit, have you been following this whole stock exchange thing? 00:30:53 Speaker 4: I don't really understand what I'm reading. 00:30:55 Speaker 3: What happened a guy told everybody to buy like penny stocks in GameStop and it made GameStop do well, and then the short traders were mad because they hedged against it. That's like what I think is happening, But. 00:31:07 Speaker 2: I don't really know. Yeah, the whole thing terrifies me. I mean, I don't like to gamble at any of that, and it just makes me extremely nervous. 00:31:15 Speaker 4: The stock market makes me so nervous. 00:31:17 Speaker 3: No one has ever been able to explain to me, like how you make money that's not money from nothing? Like I'm like, it's I don't understand. You can't make money from nothing. Where's the money coming from? And no one has ever really been able to explain it to me. 00:31:30 Speaker 4: But I do love gambling. That's the twist. 00:31:33 Speaker 2: Oh you're kidding. What type of gambling? 00:31:34 Speaker 4: Oh? 00:31:34 Speaker 2: I love roulette. 00:31:36 Speaker 4: Oh, like the purest gamble, the most, the biggest gamble. There is truly no skill involved. There is no skill. 00:31:43 Speaker 3: You can't count cards, you can't do anything like. It's just it's just a full I just I really love gambling. I love going to Vegas and gambling. I mean I literally gamble two hundred dollars away the whole night, you know what I mean. 00:31:55 Speaker 4: And sometimes I leave with more money. 00:31:57 Speaker 2: Have you ever won big? I've won maybe a couple hundred doll. 00:32:00 Speaker 3: You know, like more than I came with, which is like, to me, feels like a huge win. 00:32:04 Speaker 4: I'm like buzzing all day from something like that, you know. 00:32:07 Speaker 3: But I don't want anyone to think that I'm like out there gambling my wedding ring and like the deed to my house or anything like that. I'm not quite there, but I do get very into it. 00:32:15 Speaker 2: Wow. Well, yeah, I cannot get into any element of like if my money, if the money is not going to a physical thing, I'm panicking. I have to have some return. It's got whether it's a sandwich or a T shirt or something. If it's going to just vanish into a casino, it makes me very nervous. But the Reddit people, these men on Reddit just keep figuring things out. I don't know. I said, well, maybe the women that's also, maybe there's some you know. But the world of Reddit continues to mystify me. Yeah. I don't know what that community is, but these people keep coming together to do these bizarre things. I just read the word meme or like game stop, and I'm like, I have. 00:33:01 Speaker 3: No I don't understand what's going on, and like they're saying, I just hear to me, if it's unnerving the stockbrokers. 00:33:08 Speaker 4: I like it though. Yeah, Like I kind of like when people are like it should be illegal for you to trade if you don't know how to trade, It's like, shut the hell up. Like we've been listening for years to a crack pop president tell us how the important the stock market is. It doesn't mean anything to me. It probably doesn't mean anything to you. We don't have stocks, you know, So like to me, it's like if the little guy or the dumb guy can get in there and screw over these rich idiots that are fucking with everyone's money all the time. 00:33:37 Speaker 2: Great, go for it. I woke up this morning and Jim Jim, my boyfriend, said, did you read anything about that game stop stock? Things like yeah, And then it clicked. I was like, oh no, what did you do? He had put a thousand dollars in, not much, but it was just one of these things. I was like, what is what are you doing? But he made like seven hundred dollars. I mean, I could never do that in a million year. If I put in ten dollars, I would be looking at my phone the rest of the day trying to make sure I got my money back. Yeah, but he's out there. I don't know. He's never traded stocks before. That's amazing. 00:34:10 Speaker 4: Well, congratulations to him. 00:34:12 Speaker 3: That's like my husband's brother has been doing bitcoin or blockchain or something and has made a bunch of money off of cryptocurrency, and I don't. 00:34:21 Speaker 2: Know, just a fully different personality than mine. It's just not it's not an existence that I am comfortable being and just being like, there's a new radical. 00:34:31 Speaker 3: Well, my husband and I had the exact same conversation this morning. I go, are you reading about this game stop thing? And he goes, yeah, I saw that it was trending last night, and I thought it was about a PS four or something, or PS five or something like. He didn't know, and I thought maybe it was about Diane Keaton finally buying you that PlayStation. 00:34:48 Speaker 4: Diane and Diane multiple game stop. 00:34:52 Speaker 2: Yes, you have a very clear thing you can give to me. Diane. There's nothing stopping you from being on this podcast at this point. Diane, Diane, Diane. I feel like we were talking about Diane Keaton totally out of context because before the podcast we were talking about something Scott a gift. 00:35:06 Speaker 4: Well, I forgot that that was off Mike. 00:35:07 Speaker 2: I apology, right, So well, I feel like we should just clear it up. We were talking about all of that, and then the Xbox situation. You know, in the early days of Twitter, I was begging Diane Keaton to give me an Xbox. I don't know why. So that's the full story there. I want to keep the listener in the loop. We're on a team where I can't let you not know about me begging Diane for an Xbox. Kara, I think it's time to play a game. 00:35:33 Speaker 4: Let's I love a game, as you know, does it involve gambling. 00:35:37 Speaker 2: Let's play a quick game of roulette. Do you want to play gift master, a game called gift Master, or a game called gift or a curse, Gift or a curse or gift Master. 00:35:50 Speaker 4: Let's play gift or a curse. 00:35:52 Speaker 2: Okay, I need a number between one and ten. 00:35:55 Speaker 4: Eight. 00:35:56 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna do some light calculating while I'm calculating. You promote, you recommend, you do whatever you want with the time. You share a secret. Whatever you want, I'll be right back. 00:36:07 Speaker 4: Sounds good. 00:36:07 Speaker 2: Okay. 00:36:08 Speaker 4: Well, if you're listening to this podcast, you know it's on the exactly Right Network, And I have a podcast on the exactly right network as well. It's called That's Messed Up. 00:36:17 Speaker 3: It's a Law and Order SVU podcast, but you don't actually have to have ever watched SVU in order to enjoy it. Many people have written us telling us that they don't have never watched the show and don't watch the show, and they like our podcast anyway. So what we do is we talk about an episode of SVU, then we talk about the true crime that it was based on, and then we interview an actor from the show. We've interviewed Oscar winner Marcia gay Harden. We've interviewed a ton of really really talented people, Ari Greener, Scott William Winters, a lot of really great a lot of actors that if you saw them, you'd go, I know that guy, but maybe their name isn't necessarily ringing a bell right now. 00:36:52 Speaker 4: Anyway, that's that. And also I'm Kara Klank on all social media. 00:36:56 Speaker 2: There we go a very tight recommendation. You're one a podcast. You can fit it all in and just the quick end, I mean, everybody go listen to That's Messed Up. Follow on Instagram. We all know how this all works. You get on the internet and you type these things in and then you're doing it. I mean, but you know, maybe somebody doesn't know how to do it and you've just learned. Congratulations, I'm so glad you listened today. The world is going to open up for you like you never knew, Karra. This is how gift or a curse works. 00:37:28 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I'm so excited about these countations. 00:37:31 Speaker 2: I'm going to name three things and you have to tell me if there're a gift or a curse and why, and there is definitely a correct answer. For each there's you know, this is not an opinion thing. This is you know there are correct answers. So you can fail, the community will shame you. This kind of thing can happen. Okay, so be careful. Okay, that's all I'm saying. 00:37:55 Speaker 3: So even if I think something is a gift, I should kind of feel out whether I think you think it's a g This is a little bit of a cards against humanity, cutthroat vibe. 00:38:04 Speaker 2: This is just I'm not going to say anymore. Okay, all I'm gonna say is the first thing gift or a curse? This is A listener suggested this a listener named Casey. She suggested gift or a curse soft openings, as in a you know a business will have a soft opening. 00:38:25 Speaker 3: I'm going to say, off the top, I just think that those are a curse. I think if you're opening a business, open your goddamn business. Why are you having a soft opening? Like to gauge interest? What will happen if you don't have interest? You're going to close, like open, have a grand opening. That's what they're called grand openings, not soft openings. That's my answer, Kara, You're off to a very good start. I think soft opening. Soft openings are absolutely a curse. The soft opening. What are like the everyone's confused of a soft opening just an excuse to fuck up. It's like, if things are fucked up, you go, this is just a soft opening. We're still in beta. We're still in beta. It's the same thing. 00:39:08 Speaker 2: Well, that's so, just don't open the business yet. Yeah, I don't want to be there until you have the scissors and the ribbon and the balloons. Right, I don't want to be your test subject. Don't drag me into yourself unless you've got a giant banner that said no one has a banner that says soft opening. Right. I think that's your clear sign right there that you shouldn't be doing a soft. 00:39:28 Speaker 4: Open if there's not a pair of novelty scissors and a ribbon to cut, I don't want to. 00:39:32 Speaker 2: Be there, right, and a crowd of screaming customers. The mayor, I need all of these elements at my opening. 00:39:40 Speaker 4: I want you to be getting a key to the city. Yeah. 00:39:45 Speaker 2: Yeah, the soft opening, I think it feels like a newer trend, probably within like the last twenty years or so. Yes, for sure. The grand opening kind of feels like a relic. I don't feel like we see as many grand openings anymore. 00:39:57 Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe a car dealership. 00:39:59 Speaker 2: Has grand opening our dealership. 00:40:01 Speaker 3: Yeah, you never the soft opening. Our parents never went to a soft opening. 00:40:06 Speaker 4: I'll tell you there was a soft opening of the new grocery store in town. Let us know if our cheese selection is okay. 00:40:15 Speaker 2: This is the soft opening generation. Yeah, you see grand reopenings, which is always to me just a worrysomething. 00:40:22 Speaker 4: That is worried some what happened right. 00:40:27 Speaker 2: Right? When I see undernew ownership, it never means good things. It means it was either a bad business, which is now why did you decide to take over the business, or it's going to be a bad business because the old management is gone. 00:40:40 Speaker 4: Uh. 00:40:42 Speaker 2: You know, there are a lot of things you have to think about when you're opening or closing or reopening a business. But what the one thing that's true is it should be a grand opening, yes and nothing less. Soft openings are a curse. I'm glad we're on the same page there. Okay, next step gift or a curse flavored oreos? 00:41:03 Speaker 3: Well, this is tough, but I think I have to trust my gut and go with how I feel. I feel they are a gift. I do like flavored oreos. I do really like mint flavor oreos. I've had a candy cane flavored oreo as well. When I worked on Drag Race, the craft services department was very into every single day having a new oreo flavor, so I had birthday cake. I tried several different kinds, and I think they bring a lot of joy to people. I'm not saying that you need to eat a chromatic oreo if you don't want that, eat the regular oreo, but like I do think that the fact that they're available to us. We live in a developed nation where some people are starving for food, and we are eating oreos of various creeds and colors. 00:41:46 Speaker 4: I think that that's a gift. 00:41:48 Speaker 2: Kara, you had such a wonderful beginning to the game, and now you've really dropped the ball. Flavored oreos are absolutely a curse. Look listen, you just told me that you've had a mint oreo and a candy cane oreo that is the same flavor. No, No, they're different. 00:42:06 Speaker 4: They're different. 00:42:07 Speaker 3: They're different because this is where we get has the candy can has little pieces of candy cane. 00:42:12 Speaker 2: They're too many. It's out of control. 00:42:15 Speaker 4: There're too many. 00:42:15 Speaker 3: I believe that there some of them are being soft opened onto the market and then they're being taken. 00:42:20 Speaker 4: Back if they're if they don't work out it you. 00:42:23 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just chaos at this point. I don't even know that the Nabisco company has any idea. It's I truly, every four hours there's a new Oreo flavor we're talking about. 00:42:32 Speaker 3: Okay, I think I have because I like an Oreo this These are a gift to me. But I think if you had were to ask me about how about the fact that there are ten thousand flavors of Lays. 00:42:42 Speaker 4: There are rappers that have their own potato chip that I don't even know what the flavor is, but they're like the They're like the two Chains Lays potato chips. 00:42:51 Speaker 3: That's too many flavors too. I mean, there's just really too many flavors of everything. I don't know why you're singling out Oreos, but it's your show. 00:42:58 Speaker 2: Well, look, I love a regular Oreo. I love a peanut butter Oreo. I just feel like we're getting we're going all over the map. I feel like I'm seeing watermelon flavored oreos. I'm seeing you know, it's like many of these are things that just should have never even why did we even begin to think that should be a flavor of an oreo. It feels a little bit like Nabisco is desperate for attention. This is somebody. This is the behavior of someone who is you know, uh, you know. It's a red flags situation where I'm like, two, you're doing too much all at once. How about four new Oreo flavors a year? We can do one each season that feels sustainable. At some point we're going to run out of flavors for oreos. Then what are they going to do? 00:43:46 Speaker 3: But the problem is is like they'll they'll put out some flavor like peanut butter or that you like, or some watermelon, and there's a rallying. There's a group of rabid watermelon Oreo fans that are like, bring it back. 00:44:00 Speaker 2: Show me more than twelve people who want watermelon flavored oreos. 00:44:04 Speaker 4: I'm in a Facebook group about it. Let me look at up. 00:44:09 Speaker 2: It's QAnon is what it is. It's the only group that wants a watermelonary. 00:44:14 Speaker 4: The official food of q Andon is watermelon. 00:44:16 Speaker 2: Oreos absolutely a curse. I mean, look, I know everyone wants to have a little bit of fun, but I'm on the same page with chips too. It's just like, let's, you know, let's just narrow it down to a few good flavors and work on those and make those the best thing. I can't keep track of this many oreos. I don't need a limited edition cookie. It's just not for me. Back off. 00:44:44 Speaker 3: Oh god, I'm so stressed about the third one now. 00:44:49 Speaker 2: Okay, well prepare yourself. Excuse me. I'm losing my voice even screaming about oreos, and I apologize to everyone. If the volume got I need to take a drink. Here, I'm back, My voice is fine. Okay. This is This is another listener suggestion. This is an interesting one. Gift to a curse. This is from someone let's give credit where credit is due. Listener named Jack has suggested gift he a curse calling food fair as in you know fresh fair, or this Italian fair. 00:45:27 Speaker 4: Mediterranean fair. 00:45:29 Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, I'm definitely leaning towards curse. I don't love that. I don't I mean, I don't think calling food fair. I think that's just pretentious. Like it's just food. 00:45:42 Speaker 4: Like I think that I. 00:45:45 Speaker 3: Really only read that in like restaurant descriptions on like Google Maps or something. 00:45:50 Speaker 4: It's like casual casual, downtown fair, casual downtown spot serving Middle Eastern and Mediterranean fair, visa MasterCard accepted. You know what I mean. That's the only time I ever read about fair. So yeah, I'm gonna say a curse. 00:46:12 Speaker 3: I think you're trying to I think you're trying to make yourself sound like a food critic or fancy or something, and I don't like it. 00:46:19 Speaker 2: Cara, one out of three. I'm just telling you, one out of three. Absolutely, Calling food gift fair is so funny to me. Who in the world calls it fair? Like it's such a gift, it's. 00:46:34 Speaker 4: A gift just because it's funny and silly. 00:46:36 Speaker 2: It makes me laugh. 00:46:37 Speaker 3: Okay, I think it's only a gift if you actually start doing it. 00:46:41 Speaker 4: If I hear you ever on this podcast, I am a subscriber, I will be listening. If I ever hear you refer to food not as fair, I will be tweeting at you, and my army of fans will be with me. 00:46:54 Speaker 2: From now on, I will only be eating the freshest, lightest fair. I will be serving fair at all of my parties, and food, as far as I'm concerned, is no longer part of my vocabulary. We're going out for American Mexican food. Oh, it's like something you dug up from the soil. Food. I need fair. I need a beautifully set table. 00:47:17 Speaker 3: Fair makes me feel like someone's playing a lute nearby while you're eating. 00:47:21 Speaker 2: Are so much there's like yes, it's absolutely like the drawbridge is coming down. You're going into the castle to have your fair. I think that's fair. Is absolutely a gift. And you got thirty three percent. That's not a passing grade, Jesus, absolutely a failure out. 00:47:43 Speaker 4: I can't believe I filled this game. 00:47:46 Speaker 2: I should. I should remind listeners. I want to be Directions for this need to be very clear. We're playing Gift or a Curse on the Instagram. You need to post a photo of whatever you want everyone to vote on, and then I will repost it and will vote Gift or a Curse and then we'll get into this. So that's the directions. You post that the thing tag I said no gifts, will continue playing Gift or a Curse. It's very fun and eventually we'll have cataloged everything in the world. Gift he a curse, Yeah, and then people can come and see what's happening. 00:48:17 Speaker 4: It's a great idea for a game. 00:48:19 Speaker 2: It's very fun and as you can see, it's also deeply stressful. So you need a little bit of fun a little bit of stress. That's what happens on your phone. Anyway, come over to I said, no gifts on Instagram, and we'll keep playing the game. Hopefully not everyone will fail. Like Kara Caro moving on to driving. 00:48:36 Speaker 4: Me to gamble, I'm going to go to Vegas right now in a mask. 00:48:41 Speaker 2: Vegas is open right now. 00:48:43 Speaker 4: I don't know what's happening in fared Oh. 00:48:49 Speaker 2: I follow the Queen of Versailles on Instagram. Do you know her? I feel like she's spent probably the last like seventy percent of COVID in a casino. But she recently announced that she's gotten the vaccine, and in her announcement she said like, and now I can go back to living my life. I was like, you have not changed. Stop you have been gambling. You've just been doing whatever you want. Queen of Versailles. That's another great Instagram follow Jackie Siegel. She's out of control. I'm out of control? What's happening here? I think the Oreos thing got me on a kick, and now I'm just saying whatever I want. This is the part of the podcast which I've recently used to be called I Said No Questions. Now it's called I Said No Emails because people are sending in, you know, a little anecdotes about bad gifts they've gotte or whatever, and so we'll just read something and see what happens. 00:49:38 Speaker 4: Okay, great, great, I love this. 00:49:40 Speaker 2: They write into I said no gifts at gmail dot com. 00:49:42 Speaker 4: Now it's like something I can't possibly fail. 00:49:44 Speaker 2: So I'm into it right right. And this first one is wonderful because it's so short. It doesn't even have a deer bridge or anything. This person just was like, who gives a shit? I'm writing in I need help on what gifts to get my fiance for Valentine's Day this year. I always hate getting him candy. Help. That's from someone named and forgive me person at B A l Ie probably Bailey Bally Bailey. The fiance needs a Valentine's gift. What do you get people for Valentine's Day. I mean I never get my boyfriend. I mean maybe we're Oh. 00:50:18 Speaker 3: I don't get anything. We in real life, my husband and I almost never get. 00:50:23 Speaker 4: Each other gifts. We just take each other out to dinner. 00:50:25 Speaker 3: We just go to really nice places that we both wanted to try, and we do kind of like a fuck it all, who cares kind of dinner, you know, right. And we do that for Christmas, and we do that for birthdays, and we do that for Valentine. I mean Valentine's Day, I kind of think is so made up. We do like going on to dinner. So what my husband and I used to always do is go out on like the thirteenth because it's so much easier and there's no crowds, right, like a couple of old Jews, even though I'm the only Jew. 00:50:53 Speaker 4: But let's see, what's he into? Is there any information? 00:50:57 Speaker 2: No, the person who wrote and just doesn't want to get the fiance candy. That's I mean, we're working with, you know, very little information here for a holiday that is essentially only about candy and romance. Yeah, it's such a fake. It's such a fake. 00:51:15 Speaker 3: I don't know why there's one day of the year that you should love someone more than any of. 00:51:18 Speaker 2: The other days of the year. 00:51:19 Speaker 3: But I mean something that they're just into, like something that just makes them think that you know their taste and you know what they like. 00:51:27 Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like, you know, going back to your dinner thing. You right now, you can't really eat at a restaurant, order in some feast, order in you know, some light Italian fair. 00:51:38 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:51:41 Speaker 3: Well I just did this for my husband's birthday because it was just this January and every year I take him to somewhere to get steak on his birthday. 00:51:49 Speaker 4: I'm a vegetarian, but I take him to a steakhouse or something. And I just ordered out. 00:51:55 Speaker 3: And I just set up a little cute see a little dinner for two with a couple of candles, and we have like a little dinner together. 00:52:02 Speaker 2: And it was order from we went. 00:52:05 Speaker 3: We went to a steakhouse in Pasadena called a Royo Chop House. Oh, someone had recommended it, and so yeah, figured stay local because I live on the east side of town. 00:52:17 Speaker 4: But there's also for violence. 00:52:20 Speaker 2: I know. 00:52:21 Speaker 4: That's other thing too. 00:52:21 Speaker 3: It's like you can't really get them an experience, you know, you can feel like we're going skydiving. 00:52:25 Speaker 2: It's COVID. Let's just throw things out there. Get him an ATV. We don't know anything about this guy. I mean literally, we can. You could truly lawnmower. Oh wait, does he like to watch? 00:52:38 Speaker 3: Because what about an outdoor projector, like a projector looking out? 00:52:44 Speaker 2: Yeah? Right, everybody loves an outdoor projector. It's a fun thing to impress your friends with. 00:52:50 Speaker 3: And I think you you can use them indoors too, if you happen to have like a big white wall in your house. 00:52:54 Speaker 2: But I mean outdoors is probably a little easier. 00:52:56 Speaker 4: You can just kind of. 00:52:56 Speaker 2: Hang a sheet. Yes, that's not a bad idea, and you can. 00:53:00 Speaker 4: Maybe have like a couple of friends over for a distanced you. 00:53:04 Speaker 2: Know, movie sold date. 00:53:06 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe not for Valentinze specifically, but you could watch your favorite rom com or whatever genre your your love bug is into. 00:53:15 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, whatever thing makes you feel romantic. Okay, you know, Bally Bailey again, forgive me for not knowing how to pronounce your name. 00:53:25 Speaker 4: I'm sorry that you wrote into two kind of non romantic people. 00:53:28 Speaker 2: Two of the least romantic people on the planet. Uh, you know, cover the bed and Roses cover the floor in roses, fill the bathtub with roses, and then purchase a vacuum. 00:53:39 Speaker 4: The cleanup on that looks tough. They did that on Salt Lake City. Remember wait they did they did that. Meredith's gay Sun. 00:53:45 Speaker 2: Brooks the worst person in the world. Thank you. 00:53:48 Speaker 4: I've turned on him. I loved him at the beginning. Fully turned. 00:53:51 Speaker 3: No, I didn't have to turn. I was, you know, the beginning. I was like, Oh, he'll be fun. Like the first episode. I was like, he'll be fun, you know, He'll just be like now I'm I'm fully he's the worst. I never knew he would take such a turn. I feel like everyone hits me now. But he helped his He helped his dad set up all these rose The place was so weird. It was weird, and I was like, first of all, don't involve your child and setting up the day. 00:54:14 Speaker 2: No child should be sprinkling roses on beds. 00:54:17 Speaker 4: Yeah, and the clean up looks crazy. 00:54:21 Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like a giant hassle. 00:54:23 Speaker 4: You can't vacuum up rose pedals. You gotta get down and do that with your hands. 00:54:27 Speaker 2: Well, you get a nice tank fac it's gonna clog, it's gonna clog. I don't know we're talking about, you know, the vacuums I'm working with. We'll clean any mess. 00:54:38 Speaker 4: Oh, we got a Dyson owner over here. You've got a. 00:54:40 Speaker 2: Nice wet back, You've got your I've cleaned up plenty of rose messes. Let's answer one more question. Why not this person you know was able to address me? And you? Dear Bridge are and guest. I have a dilemma. You may not be able to relate to. But I don't want to make any assumptions. Okay, what what's happening? My mother in law has a birthday coming up, and when asked what she wants, she says she doesn't want anything. Okay, I get this. I can't help myself. I need to get her something. Maybe I'm traumatized because growing up my parents always say that they didn't want anything, when in reality they did. You can imagine this causes a lot of distress. What do I get someone who says they don't want anything? Some background? This is what the last person was missing A little. Yeah, she's a stylish woman in her fifties. She's a very busy real estate agent who is always going above and beyond for others. Help me. That's from Stuart in Cincinnati. Stuart's mom is playing you know, some psychological games. Oh see, and I'm not reading, so that's my problem. 00:55:45 Speaker 3: Well, what comes to mine immediately for me is a DVD of Something's Got to Give. I mean, she's a stylish woman in her fifties. Now, no, no, I see what you're And it sounds kind of like, I don't know, when you call someone. She might be the kind of person that's hard to buy for it because she has a good style and she has you know, she has a specific style, and she's a busy real estate agent. So you're implying there's a level of success. Maybe this is like buying something for the person that kind of has everything that they need. They don't really need anything, so right, right, you know what I've been getting, if we're just going to throw out ideas, it's just been getting in my Instagram. I have been getting served ads NonStop for this beautiful non stick pan. 00:56:29 Speaker 2: Oh. 00:56:31 Speaker 4: It's like I don't even know. 00:56:35 Speaker 3: It's almost like I could go on Instagram right now and scroll for five seconds and it would pop up. But it's like this, it's like this pan and it has a space for the It comes with a special spatula, and there's a space for the spatula to rest on the pan. 00:56:47 Speaker 2: Oh I am finding I'm putting the dirty utensils and spatulas in the strangest places to keep them off the counter. It makes absolutely no sense. This is a brilliant idea. 00:56:59 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's always pan by our place is what it's called. 00:57:02 Speaker 2: Okay, well, now look this, now that we've talked about them, they should be sending both of us a pan if I don't get a free nonstick pan from whoever the hell our place. 00:57:14 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if she likes to cook, but that's kind of a nice I mean, she's a gal that's too busy for cooking because she's out showing all this real estate. 00:57:22 Speaker 2: Well, she's very she's a very busy real estate agent. I'll tell you right now, real estate agent. They have to go out and you know, they're showing who knows how many homes, apartments, et cetera to people they're with these people, how about some stylish face masks, some that they won't be, you know, she might be. 00:57:42 Speaker 3: You can get like designer ones too. You can get like, you know, like a Louis Vuton or like, yes, so expensive, but you could get like a nice one. 00:57:52 Speaker 2: I feel like that would be not a that's not a bad idea for a real estate agent. Get some you know, some stylish masks. This magic pan that's nonstick, I mean I feel like most pans are nonstick at this point. 00:58:04 Speaker 3: I mean a set of nice wine glasses you can always get kind of like Rye Dell stemless wine glasses at like bed bath and beyond. 00:58:11 Speaker 4: They're not even that expensive. 00:58:13 Speaker 3: I don't think I have had those for since my wedding, and I've only broken like two of them when I've been black out drunk. I'm trying to think what else for the stylish woman in her in her fifties. 00:58:25 Speaker 2: Especially spends a lot of time in her car, you know, driving from property to property. Well, you know what about Yeah, No, I mean I had nothing beyond how about for a call? 00:58:39 Speaker 4: It's like, how about you teach her how to listen to podcasts? 00:58:42 Speaker 2: No? 00:58:45 Speaker 3: Well, I was thinking a meta sort of gift would be something from the I said No gifts merch because she literally said no gifts. So you get her like a T shirt that says I said no gifts. It's like, well, you said no, you would. 00:58:56 Speaker 2: Go and just unload all of our merch on this person. Get her the gift Master game, the T shirt. She's going to be deeply confused, but then she's going to become She's going to find out that a good ten minutes of this podcast were devoted to her. I mean, I wish we knew her name. 00:59:12 Speaker 3: I mean, this is the gift you play her this, this is the gift you're being. You're very loved by your son in law. And less Stuart is a girl, because I know female. 00:59:21 Speaker 2: Stuart's really Yes, I've never heard of a female Stewart. Yeah. 00:59:25 Speaker 3: Can Stuart also confide in their spouse who is the child of. 00:59:31 Speaker 4: The mother in law to see what she might be into? 00:59:34 Speaker 2: Because I feel like I keep going back to saying, this is Stuart's mom, and you know it's definitely the mother in law. I'm glad that you're keeping us on the right. 00:59:41 Speaker 4: Well whatever, I'm just thinking because in my mind, I'm thinking of my mother in law and I love her, but she's not my mom. And my mother in law just bought my husband gifts from nuts dot Com. Does your mother in law like nuts? 00:59:55 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what brazil nuts. Do you like brazil nuts? I love zil nuts and they have health properties. 01:00:02 Speaker 3: She sent him a really cool It was like a bag of from nutstot com and it has all these little mini bags and some are different trail mixes and some are nuts, some are dehydrated bananas or like. 01:00:12 Speaker 2: I second nut is a good thing to keep in the car when you're you're a busy real estate agent. You're munching out snack for. 01:00:18 Speaker 4: The real estate agent lady on the go. 01:00:19 Speaker 3: And also kind of funnyn to send your mom something from nuts dot com in like a funny, giggling kind of way. 01:00:25 Speaker 2: Stuart. I mean, the wealth of options here is just absolutely beyond what you could have possibly hoped for. I mean, this is this letter has really sent us in every possible direction. And if you can't glean something from this, I don't know what to tell you. That means you're a bad son in law. And I hate to say it, but you know it's true. We're closing up the mail bag. I've never said that before, but why not. We've really helped people here and I don't know what to say at this point. Kara Bridger I've just had a wonderful time with you. I mean, things spot out of control with flavored oreos and they just you know, we've been in a tornado ever since, and I feel great about it. 01:01:06 Speaker 3: I hope you can still look at me the same even though I brutally failed the game. Now I want to go back and play Game Master because I feel like maybe I would have done better, but you know, coulda, would have, should have. 01:01:15 Speaker 2: You're a gambler. You're a gambler. 01:01:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet on I bet on black and two times it was red. 01:01:21 Speaker 2: So well, I'm thrilled, absolutely thrilled to have these stylish croakies. 01:01:28 Speaker 3: Maybe I'll be what like, please send me a photo when they're in use. I really can't wait. They seem because their leather like you need to wear them and really like let them soften up. 01:01:36 Speaker 2: Oh of course I'm gonna break these in. You'll see me wandering around the neighborhood. They'll be dangling off my glasses. I'm going to be getting looks one way or the other, and that's what I need at this point. Thank you for coming on the podcast. It's been wonderful. And you go listen to Kara's podcast and let's all just do whatever we want to do. That's all you can do at this point. Who cares. This is the end of the podcast. This is where you move on with your life. This is where I release you. And you know, if you're in your car, get home safe, bless all of us, goodbye. I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's engineered by our dear friend Annalise Nelson and the theme song is by miracle worker Amy Mann. You must follow the show on Instagram at I said No Gifts. That's where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher or wherever you found me, and why not leave a review while you're there. It's really the least you could do. And if you're interested in advertising on the show, go to midroll dot com slash ads hell invit did you hear. 01:02:54 Speaker 1: Fun a man myself perfectly clear? When you're I guess tom home, you gotta come to me empty? And I said, no, guest, your own presence is presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So how do you dare to surbey me?