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Speaker 2: Welcome to, I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Wineger. I'm

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Speaker 2: have a nice time. Kara Clank, Welcome to. I said

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Speaker 3: Hi Bridger, thank you so much for having me. It's

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Speaker 3: Kara what's going on in my life?

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Speaker 4: Not too much.

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Speaker 3: I'm working on a game show. A game show, well,

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Speaker 3: I mean it's actually kind of it's the show wipe Out.

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Speaker 3: You know, fun it's weird like because they want it

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Speaker 4: Like, I get that, you know, yeah, exactly exactly.

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Speaker 4: It's going to be Nicole Bayer and John Cena.

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Speaker 2: Now, I guess that's a pretty COVID friendly environment. You're

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well there's it's actually teams this time.

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Speaker 4: It's so many people, Bridger, It's so many people.

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Speaker 3: I was on set in December and was like, this

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Speaker 3: Or well, I'm not going to be on set now,

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Speaker 2: Oh right, because they do after they've shot it all.

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Speaker 3: Do you have any inside scoop on Mary's cult that

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Speaker 4: Yes, she called them poor and said that they didn't

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Speaker 3: Meanwhile, you're one of these people that's like giving money

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Speaker 4: It's like she's asking irs to knock down her door.

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Speaker 2: It absolutely is. Her entire life is so bizarre. And

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Speaker 3: And I think it's because, yeah, she was supposed to

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Speaker 3: She goes she's my cousin and she's worked for me

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Speaker 2: It's very incredible group of gals, and I can't say

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Speaker 3: That was actually my cousin who works for me as

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: Gar I feel like we might as well, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean why not. Neither of us has anything

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Speaker 3: Well, I confess I was a professional gift rapper as

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Speaker 2: Now, did you know how to wrap gifts prior to

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Speaker 3: I sort of knew how to just do a basic

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Speaker 4: You condemn you've seen, you've seen that.

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Speaker 3: I think it's because I'm fourteen that they're like, are

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Speaker 3: Well, so this this is this fancy shop that's kind

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Speaker 3: They sold baby clothes and women's clothes as well. So

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Speaker 4: And you know, it sounds.

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Speaker 2: Love rapid gifts, I mean until you describe it just now.

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Speaker 3: No, no, it's a little it was. It was like

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Speaker 4: I was like dank.

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Speaker 2: I'm such a horrible gift wrapper. How do you learn

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, after you measure out the size of

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Speaker 4: part and That's what makes it not look sloppy. I

446
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,720
Speaker 4: think when people are just kind of trying to fold

447
00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,320
Speaker 4: and just get it folded up and sort of get

448
00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,440
Speaker 4: it wrapped quickly, it's that's when it looks.

449
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:05,400
Speaker 2: Sloppy, right. But even when I'm not doing it quickly,

450
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,480
Speaker 2: I just feel like I end up with like I'm

451
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,840
Speaker 2: literally like crumpling the edges together. It's just literal, like

452
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,679
Speaker 2: there's a lump. I wonder if it's just a natural

453
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 2: skill that I'm kind of a geometry thing.

454
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,920
Speaker 3: I think if I post COVID, I'm gonna come over.

455
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you a little tuitoring session because I

456
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,439
Speaker 3: think it's just a geometry thing, and like once you

457
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 3: sort of visualize it and see it the first time,

458
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 3: or like the first time you do it, you'll you'll

459
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:29,680
Speaker 3: know from then.

460
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,120
Speaker 2: On see this is That's the one thing I worry about,

461
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:36,199
Speaker 2: I think. I mean, I know my spatial skills are

462
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 2: like below an infant. So it's like I wonder if

463
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 2: that part of my brain just never developed and I

464
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,879
Speaker 2: just won't be able to wrap a gift. I don't know.

465
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 4: I feel like, can you fold your clothes? Do you

466
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 4: fold your clothes? I don't really I hang them up.

467
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:54,720
Speaker 4: My husband can't fold clothes.

468
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,440
Speaker 2: I mean he literally I show him.

469
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 3: I go, look at this, you flip the sleeves back,

470
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 3: you put it down, and he goes like, you can't

471
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:01,200
Speaker 3: do it.

472
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,880
Speaker 4: So maybe it is a maybe it is a genetic thing.

473
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,439
Speaker 4: Maybe it's a man thing. I don't know.

474
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like there's there are probably

475
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 2: plenty of men out there that can wrap a gift.

476
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:11,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, there probably are.

477
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 2: You know. I think one of my brothers can rap gifts. Yeah.

478
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,119
Speaker 2: I don't know. All that aside. Let's quit dancing around this.

479
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,160
Speaker 2: I need to open this gift. It's enormous. I picked

480
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 2: it up from my porch and I truly thought, is

481
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,679
Speaker 2: this what being at a wedding is? It felt like

482
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 2: I was getting married because it's this beautiful pastel. It's

483
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 2: this giant white.

484
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 4: Bow.

485
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 3: I mean, I have my wrapping paper, that's my wrapping

486
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 3: paper for children's gifts, but it is all like for

487
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,679
Speaker 3: new baby gifts because it's sort of pastel, and like.

488
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 2: Right, it's like spring wedding or baby something like this.

489
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 2: The bow is looks like a firework. I mean, it's

490
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 2: just everyone you have to come.

491
00:22:54,400 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 4: To your untie it I think you're gonna have you're kidding, I.

492
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 2: Don't have a scissor. M okay, well I'm gonna try.

493
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 2: You could probably just do we do that shit, like

494
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,919
Speaker 2: the real wrenching, like your fingers kind of get you

495
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 2: feel the blood circulation stop in your fingers for a minute.

496
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that way you can kind of save the bow,

497
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 3: like my mom likes to save bows at Christmas time.

498
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 2: Like I could put this on my dog. Let's see here,

499
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 2: we're doing the squeeze. I'm squeezing and this is this

500
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:33,880
Speaker 2: could take a thumb off.

501
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 3: My god, I probably should have told you that it

502
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 3: needed to evolve a scissor because the bow the bow.

503
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 4: I made it on top so it doesn't like unravel.

504
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 2: Like.

505
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 6: It's beautiful and it's a challenge. It's a little bit

506
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,880
Speaker 6: of everything. I wanted to get a workout, I really did.

507
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 6: I was like, I want him he's been trapped inside.

508
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:54,959
Speaker 6: I want him to work his upper arms.

509
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 2: Okay, I've gotten part. Oh my fingers have been insured

510
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:00,160
Speaker 2: in this process.

511
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I'm beautiful. So sorry.

512
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 2: That is wonderful. Okay, now we're getting into the thing.

513
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna unwrap it.

514
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: There.

515
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 2: I love to be the crinkle.

516
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 6: This is ignormous.

517
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 2: Oh and now you have done an incredible job of

518
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,479
Speaker 2: securing this. Now we've got the tape element. I mean,

519
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 2: some people throw the gift in a shopping bag. You know,

520
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 2: it's like, well, it's just scotch. Hopefully you can break

521
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 2: down there. We go. Use most of my strength on

522
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 2: the ribbon, but we're gonna get through this tape. Okay,

523
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 2: now we've gotten into the tissue element. Might as well

524
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,640
Speaker 2: bring that out by the microphone.

525
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 4: I want everyone have the sensory experience.

526
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 2: Of course.

527
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 4: Okay, So is there a box in there?

528
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 2: There's a box? Okay, okay, Now it says Vermont lanyards

529
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 2: on it, some beautiful little trees on it. I'm going

530
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 2: to open this up. This is I've opened. Now this

531
00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 2: is the same. I mean, this is just so secure

532
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 2: opening the box. We're opening. We're opening, We're opening. We've

533
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 2: got some little things here, and now what is this.

534
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 4: So our mutual friend Lizzie Cooperman I was speaking to

535
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 4: her God beloved, and she told me that you love eyewear.

536
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 2: I do love eyewear.

537
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 3: So those are fancy croakies for your glasses. That's a

538
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 3: layard for your glasses.

539
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 2: Oh, this is incredible. It's like I've only ever seen

540
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 2: a croquie in a neon color exactly.

541
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 3: And so I was like, I'm not going to go

542
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 3: and get the like the cheesy croaky He'll never use it.

543
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 3: I'm going to get a classy Vermont leather handmade from

544
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,199
Speaker 3: Etsy Crokey, beautiful.

545
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 2: For you.

546
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 4: But then I got on this podcast with you and

547
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 4: you're not wearing any glasses, and I was.

548
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 2: Like, did Lizzy steer me wrong?

549
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 4: Is this wrong?

550
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 2: Is he not?

551
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 4: Did he get lasick? Since now and the time that

552
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 4: she told me.

553
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 2: About this, I felt COVID was the time to get laser.

554
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 4: If I'm gonna have my eyeball f I think a

555
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 4: pandemic is the time.

556
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 2: No, I do I wear glasses on and off. I

557
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 2: wear contacts on it off. I mean, I am considering

558
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 2: getting Lasik, but as I, yeah, this is just delayed

559
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,439
Speaker 2: Lasik by at least a year. Now, I got this

560
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 2: gorgeous leather croqui. This is perfect, and I also have

561
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 2: I would love to put these on sunglasses. Have you

562
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,360
Speaker 2: ever used a kroki before? No?

563
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 3: Because I'll tell you something. I only got glasses like

564
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 3: five years ago.

565
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 2: Whoa. I had that not so.

566
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 3: Great vision in college and I was like, I'm not

567
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 3: ever wearing glasses. And I got contacts, but I have

568
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 3: a stigmatism, so they were constantly popping out, and I

569
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 3: was like, I'm not going to do contacts, like they're

570
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 3: just not for me. So then my mom let me

571
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 3: get a pair of glasses. They were so expensive, because

572
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 3: you know, now we're to have Warby Parker that are cheap.

573
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 3: The glasses all back then were like three hundred dollars.

574
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 3: I threw them away on my lunch tray or something

575
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 3: at college. I was too scared to tell my mom,

576
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 3: so I just kind of went blind for the next

577
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 3: ten years. And it wasn't until I was in my

578
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 3: early thirties.

579
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,360
Speaker 4: That I was like, oh, I can't.

580
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 3: My husband really when we met, was like, you cannot

581
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 3: see far away, and I was like, no, I mean

582
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 3: I can if I walk a little closer to the thing,

583
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 3: so visions.

584
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

585
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 3: So I started getting glasses and it's so funny because

586
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 3: he was with me the first time I put them on,

587
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 3: like my prescription glasses, and I looked at the trees

588
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 3: and the leaves on.

589
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 4: The trees are just so more well defined when you're

590
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 4: right glasses, And I was like the trees, and he

591
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 4: was laughing his ass off at me. He's like, look

592
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 4: at you, like you've just been avoiding seeing clearly for

593
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 4: so long. So anyway, my journey with glasses has been shorter,

594
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 4: and therefore I have not actually dipped a toe into Croaquyville.

595
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 2: But Crokie I would.

596
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 4: Really love to try. I want to you be able

597
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 4: to test subject and tell me how it goes.

598
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,479
Speaker 2: I wish I had my glasses with me right now.

599
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 2: I would throw these on. Of course, I have to

600
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 2: you know, take a picture or something. I mean, for

601
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 2: the time being, I could put this on as a start,

602
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 2: like a you know, sensible leather chain.

603
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, and I got I ordered it from Vermont

604
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 4: because I love Vermont. I was looking online for you know,

605
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 4: non cheesy croakis, right. It's not an easy task, yeah,

606
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 4: I mean, I think the key is to avoid the

607
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 4: word croaky, and just I was like, what else do

608
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 4: you call glasses holders? And then somehow lanyard came up,

609
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 4: so I found these. And I love Vermont so much

610
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 4: and I love all these I love all these artisans

611
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 4: in Vermont who do like very leathery Vermonty.

612
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 3: Stuff, and so I was like, maybe Bridger will be

613
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 3: into this esthetic and it's.

614
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 4: Very not la but I just thought.

615
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 2: At all, it's very very stylish. I truly could have

616
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 2: never imagined a croquie being stylish. So this is whoever

617
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 2: is working on this as an incredible magician. How bad

618
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 2: is your vision? Like, what's your prescription?

619
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 4: It's not so bad.

620
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 3: I don't know what my prescription is, honestly, it's like

621
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 3: on a piece of paper and in my filing cabinet.

622
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 4: But I can see without my glasses on, Like my

623
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 4: sister wakes up in the morning and is blind, like

624
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 4: because she's worn contacts for so long.

625
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 3: I can see when I wake up in the morning,

626
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 3: but it's not comfortable to watch television or whatever without

627
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 3: them on.

628
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,719
Speaker 2: And I wear them all day, Like I wear them

629
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 2: all the time.

630
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 4: But I don't think you'd put my glasses on and go,

631
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 4: oh my god, I have a headache. You know what

632
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:13,719
Speaker 4: I mean.

633
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 2: They're right the kind that, yeah, my vision has gotten

634
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 2: fairly bad over the years. I think I've been wearing

635
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 2: some contacts or glasses since ninth grade. So and you

636
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 2: know your vision just continues to deteriorate. I think it's

637
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 2: finally plateaued.

638
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 3: Have you read about the like the tech bros and

639
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 3: the CEOs of like REDDA and stuff, who have all

640
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 3: gotten they all got, like I forgot what it was like,

641
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 3: they got laysick all specifically like after Trump was nominated,

642
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 3: in case there was like an apocalypse, after Trump was

643
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 3: elected to what in case there was an apocalypse because

644
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 3: they were like in the apoc like in the apocalypse,

645
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 3: when the world ends, you won't be able to get

646
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 3: glasses or contacts.

647
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 4: So we got to get laysick now. And I was like,

648
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 4: oh my god, that's a big I heard something like

649
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 4: this on NPR and I was like, this isn't what

650
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 4: I really need to be hearing right now.

651
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 2: But you are thinking about getting Lasik. I definitely thought

652
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 2: about it.

653
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

654
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 3: I mean my husband says not too because he's like,

655
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 3: glasses are so part of your look now. But I

656
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 3: agree with like not loving to feel feeling like beholden

657
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 3: to having to have something.

658
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,959
Speaker 2: Like right to be an option would be nice. Yeah.

659
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 4: And people have just talked so highly of Lasik. They're

660
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 4: like it's easy, right.

661
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 2: I mean, it seemed to me on paper seems like

662
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 2: the most horrifying searcher.

663
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 3: Oh disgusting, and they're like, you could go blind just FYI.

664
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 2: Right, there's always like this shiny chance that they just

665
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 2: fully burn your eye out or whatever, which does not.

666
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Speaker 2: It feels a little uncomfortable, but I probably will have

667
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 2: to give it a shot at some point, I don't know.

668
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 2: Speaking of Reddit, have you been following this whole stock

669
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 2: exchange thing?

670
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 4: I don't really understand what I'm reading.

671
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,719
Speaker 3: What happened a guy told everybody to buy like penny

672
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 3: stocks in GameStop and it made GameStop do well, and

673
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 3: then the short traders were mad because they hedged against it.

674
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 3: That's like what I think is happening, But.

675
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 2: I don't really know. Yeah, the whole thing terrifies me.

676
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't like to gamble at any of that,

677
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 2: and it just makes me extremely nervous.

678
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 4: The stock market makes me so nervous.

679
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 3: No one has ever been able to explain to me,

680
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 3: like how you make money that's not money from nothing?

681
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 3: Like I'm like, it's I don't understand. You can't make

682
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 3: money from nothing. Where's the money coming from? And no

683
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 3: one has ever really been able to explain it to me.

684
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 4: But I do love gambling. That's the twist.

685
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 2: Oh you're kidding. What type of gambling?

686
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 4: Oh?

687
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 2: I love roulette.

688
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 4: Oh, like the purest gamble, the most, the biggest gamble.

689
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 4: There is truly no skill involved. There is no skill.

690
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 3: You can't count cards, you can't do anything like. It's

691
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 3: just it's just a full I just I really love gambling.

692
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 3: I love going to Vegas and gambling. I mean I

693
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 3: literally gamble two hundred dollars away the whole night, you

694
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 3: know what I mean.

695
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 4: And sometimes I leave with more money.

696
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: Have you ever won big? I've won maybe a couple

697
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 2: hundred doll.

698
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 3: You know, like more than I came with, which is like,

699
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 3: to me, feels like a huge win.

700
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 4: I'm like buzzing all day from something like that, you know.

701
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 3: But I don't want anyone to think that I'm like

702
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 3: out there gambling my wedding ring and like the deed

703
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 3: to my house or anything like that. I'm not quite there,

704
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 3: but I do get very into it.

705
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 2: Wow. Well, yeah, I cannot get into any element of

706
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 2: like if my money, if the money is not going

707
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 2: to a physical thing, I'm panicking. I have to have

708
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 2: some return. It's got whether it's a sandwich or a

709
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 2: T shirt or something. If it's going to just vanish

710
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 2: into a casino, it makes me very nervous. But the

711
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 2: Reddit people, these men on Reddit just keep figuring things out.

712
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 2: I don't know. I said, well, maybe the women that's also,

713
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 2: maybe there's some you know. But the world of Reddit

714
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 2: continues to mystify me. Yeah. I don't know what that

715
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 2: community is, but these people keep coming together to do

716
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 2: these bizarre things. I just read the word meme or

717
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 2: like game stop, and I'm like, I have.

718
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 3: No I don't understand what's going on, and like they're saying,

719
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 3: I just hear to me, if it's unnerving the stockbrokers.

720
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 4: I like it though. Yeah, Like I kind of like

721
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 4: when people are like it should be illegal for you

722
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 4: to trade if you don't know how to trade, It's like,

723
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 4: shut the hell up. Like we've been listening for years

724
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 4: to a crack pop president tell us how the important

725
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 4: the stock market is. It doesn't mean anything to me.

726
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 4: It probably doesn't mean anything to you. We don't have stocks,

727
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 4: you know, So like to me, it's like if the

728
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 4: little guy or the dumb guy can get in there

729
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 4: and screw over these rich idiots that are fucking with

730
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 4: everyone's money all the time.

731
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 2: Great, go for it. I woke up this morning and

732
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 2: Jim Jim, my boyfriend, said, did you read anything about

733
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 2: that game stop stock? Things like yeah, And then it clicked.

734
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 2: I was like, oh no, what did you do? He

735
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 2: had put a thousand dollars in, not much, but it

736
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 2: was just one of these things. I was like, what

737
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 2: is what are you doing? But he made like seven

738
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 2: hundred dollars. I mean, I could never do that in

739
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 2: a million year. If I put in ten dollars, I

740
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 2: would be looking at my phone the rest of the

741
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 2: day trying to make sure I got my money back. Yeah,

742
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 2: but he's out there. I don't know. He's never traded

743
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 2: stocks before. That's amazing.

744
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 4: Well, congratulations to him.

745
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 3: That's like my husband's brother has been doing bitcoin or

746
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 3: blockchain or something and has made a bunch of money

747
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 3: off of cryptocurrency, and I don't.

748
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 2: Know, just a fully different personality than mine. It's just

749
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 2: not it's not an existence that I am comfortable being

750
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 2: and just being like, there's a new radical.

751
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 3: Well, my husband and I had the exact same conversation

752
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 3: this morning. I go, are you reading about this game

753
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 3: stop thing? And he goes, yeah, I saw that it

754
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 3: was trending last night, and I thought it was about

755
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 3: a PS four or something, or PS five or something like.

756
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,439
Speaker 3: He didn't know, and I thought maybe it was about

757
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 3: Diane Keaton finally buying you that PlayStation.

758
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 4: Diane and Diane multiple game stop.

759
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 2: Yes, you have a very clear thing you can give

760
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 2: to me. Diane. There's nothing stopping you from being on

761
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 2: this podcast at this point. Diane, Diane, Diane. I feel

762
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 2: like we were talking about Diane Keaton totally out of

763
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 2: context because before the podcast we were talking about something

764
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 2: Scott a gift.

765
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 4: Well, I forgot that that was off Mike.

766
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 2: I apology, right, So well, I feel like we should

767
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 2: just clear it up. We were talking about all of that,

768
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,959
Speaker 2: and then the Xbox situation. You know, in the early

769
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 2: days of Twitter, I was begging Diane Keaton to give

770
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 2: me an Xbox. I don't know why. So that's the

771
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 2: full story there. I want to keep the listener in

772
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 2: the loop. We're on a team where I can't let

773
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 2: you not know about me begging Diane for an Xbox. Kara,

774
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:32,720
Speaker 2: I think it's time to play a game.

775
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 4: Let's I love a game, as you know, does it

776
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 4: involve gambling.

777
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 2: Let's play a quick game of roulette. Do you want

778
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 2: to play gift master, a game called gift Master, or

779
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 2: a game called gift or a curse, Gift or a

780
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:49,760
Speaker 2: curse or gift Master.

781
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 4: Let's play gift or a curse.

782
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 2: Okay, I need a number between one and ten.

783
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 4: Eight.

784
00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna do some light calculating while I'm calculating.

785
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 2: You promote, you recommend, you do whatever you want with

786
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 2: the time. You share a secret. Whatever you want, I'll

787
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 2: be right back.

788
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 4: Sounds good.

789
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 2: Okay.

790
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 4: Well, if you're listening to this podcast, you know it's

791
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 4: on the exactly Right Network, And I have a podcast

792
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 4: on the exactly right network as well. It's called That's

793
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 4: Messed Up.

794
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 3: It's a Law and Order SVU podcast, but you don't

795
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 3: actually have to have ever watched SVU in order to

796
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 3: enjoy it. Many people have written us telling us that

797
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,959
Speaker 3: they don't have never watched the show and don't watch

798
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 3: the show, and they like our podcast anyway. So what

799
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 3: we do is we talk about an episode of SVU,

800
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 3: then we talk about the true crime that it was

801
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,240
Speaker 3: based on, and then we interview an actor from the show.

802
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 3: We've interviewed Oscar winner Marcia gay Harden. We've interviewed a

803
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 3: ton of really really talented people, Ari Greener, Scott William Winters,

804
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 3: a lot of really great a lot of actors that

805
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 3: if you saw them, you'd go, I know that guy,

806
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,959
Speaker 3: but maybe their name isn't necessarily ringing a bell right now.

807
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 4: Anyway, that's that. And also I'm Kara Klank on all

808
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 4: social media.

809
00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 2: There we go a very tight recommendation. You're one a podcast.

810
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 2: You can fit it all in and just the quick end,

811
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 2: I mean, everybody go listen to That's Messed Up. Follow

812
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 2: on Instagram. We all know how this all works. You

813
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 2: get on the internet and you type these things in

814
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 2: and then you're doing it. I mean, but you know,

815
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: maybe somebody doesn't know how to do it and you've

816
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 2: just learned. Congratulations, I'm so glad you listened today. The

817
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 2: world is going to open up for you like you

818
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 2: never knew, Karra. This is how gift or a curse works.

819
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I'm so excited about these countations.

820
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 2: I'm going to name three things and you have to

821
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 2: tell me if there're a gift or a curse and why,

822
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 2: and there is definitely a correct answer. For each there's

823
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 2: you know, this is not an opinion thing. This is

824
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 2: you know there are correct answers. So you can fail,

825
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 2: the community will shame you. This kind of thing can happen. Okay,

826
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 2: so be careful. Okay, that's all I'm saying.

827
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 3: So even if I think something is a gift, I

828
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 3: should kind of feel out whether I think you think

829
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 3: it's a g This is a little bit of a

830
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 3: cards against humanity, cutthroat vibe.

831
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,720
Speaker 2: This is just I'm not going to say anymore. Okay,

832
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 2: all I'm gonna say is the first thing gift or

833
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 2: a curse? This is A listener suggested this a listener

834
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 2: named Casey. She suggested gift or a curse soft openings,

835
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 2: as in a you know a business will have a

836
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 2: soft opening.

837
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 3: I'm going to say, off the top, I just think

838
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 3: that those are a curse. I think if you're opening

839
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 3: a business, open your goddamn business. Why are you having

840
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 3: a soft opening? Like to gauge interest? What will happen

841
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 3: if you don't have interest? You're going to close, like open,

842
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 3: have a grand opening. That's what they're called grand openings,

843
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 3: not soft openings. That's my answer, Kara, You're off to

844
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 3: a very good start. I think soft opening. Soft openings

845
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 3: are absolutely a curse. The soft opening. What are like

846
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 3: the everyone's confused of a soft opening just an excuse

847
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 3: to fuck up. It's like, if things are fucked up,

848
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 3: you go, this is just a soft opening. We're still

849
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 3: in beta. We're still in beta. It's the same thing.

850
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 2: Well, that's so, just don't open the business yet. Yeah,

851
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 2: I don't want to be there until you have the

852
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 2: scissors and the ribbon and the balloons. Right, I don't

853
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 2: want to be your test subject. Don't drag me into

854
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 2: yourself unless you've got a giant banner that said no

855
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 2: one has a banner that says soft opening. Right. I

856
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 2: think that's your clear sign right there that you shouldn't

857
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 2: be doing a soft.

858
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 4: Open if there's not a pair of novelty scissors and

859
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 4: a ribbon to cut, I don't want to.

860
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 2: Be there, right, and a crowd of screaming customers. The mayor,

861
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 2: I need all of these elements at my opening.

862
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 4: I want you to be getting a key to the city. Yeah.

863
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, the soft opening, I think it feels like a

864
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,720
Speaker 2: newer trend, probably within like the last twenty years or so. Yes,

865
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 2: for sure. The grand opening kind of feels like a relic.

866
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 2: I don't feel like we see as many grand openings anymore.

867
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe a car dealership.

868
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 2: Has grand opening our dealership.

869
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, you never the soft opening. Our parents never went

870
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 3: to a soft opening.

871
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 4: I'll tell you there was a soft opening of the

872
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 4: new grocery store in town. Let us know if our

873
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 4: cheese selection is okay.

874
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:20,439
Speaker 2: This is the soft opening generation. Yeah, you see grand reopenings,

875
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 2: which is always to me just a worrysomething.

876
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 4: That is worried some what happened right.

877
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 2: Right? When I see undernew ownership, it never means good things.

878
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 2: It means it was either a bad business, which is

879
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 2: now why did you decide to take over the business,

880
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 2: or it's going to be a bad business because the

881
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 2: old management is gone.

882
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 4: Uh.

883
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 2: You know, there are a lot of things you have

884
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 2: to think about when you're opening or closing or reopening

885
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 2: a business. But what the one thing that's true is

886
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 2: it should be a grand opening, yes and nothing less.

887
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 2: Soft openings are a curse. I'm glad we're on the

888
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 2: same page there. Okay, next step gift or a curse

889
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 2: flavored oreos?

890
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 3: Well, this is tough, but I think I have to

891
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 3: trust my gut and go with how I feel. I

892
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 3: feel they are a gift. I do like flavored oreos.

893
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 3: I do really like mint flavor oreos. I've had a

894
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 3: candy cane flavored oreo as well. When I worked on

895
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 3: Drag Race, the craft services department was very into every

896
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 3: single day having a new oreo flavor, so I had

897
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 3: birthday cake. I tried several different kinds, and I think

898
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 3: they bring a lot of joy to people. I'm not

899
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 3: saying that you need to eat a chromatic oreo if

900
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 3: you don't want that, eat the regular oreo, but like

901
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 3: I do think that the fact that they're available to us.

902
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 3: We live in a developed nation where some people are

903
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 3: starving for food, and we are eating oreos of various

904
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 3: creeds and colors.

905
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 4: I think that that's a gift.

906
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 2: Kara, you had such a wonderful beginning to the game,

907
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 2: and now you've really dropped the ball. Flavored oreos are

908
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 2: absolutely a curse. Look listen, you just told me that

909
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 2: you've had a mint oreo and a candy cane oreo

910
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 2: that is the same flavor. No, No, they're different.

911
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 4: They're different.

912
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 3: They're different because this is where we get has the

913
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 3: candy can has little pieces of candy cane.

914
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 2: They're too many. It's out of control.

915
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:15,879
Speaker 4: There're too many.

916
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 3: I believe that there some of them are being soft

917
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 3: opened onto the market and then they're being taken.

918
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 4: Back if they're if they don't work out it you.

919
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just chaos at this point. I don't

920
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 2: even know that the Nabisco company has any idea. It's

921
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 2: I truly, every four hours there's a new Oreo flavor

922
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 2: we're talking about.

923
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 3: Okay, I think I have because I like an Oreo

924
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 3: this These are a gift to me. But I think

925
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 3: if you had were to ask me about how about

926
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 3: the fact that there are ten thousand flavors of Lays.

927
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 4: There are rappers that have their own potato chip that

928
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 4: I don't even know what the flavor is, but they're

929
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 4: like the They're like the two Chains Lays potato chips.

930
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 3: That's too many flavors too. I mean, there's just really

931
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 3: too many flavors of everything. I don't know why you're

932
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,479
Speaker 3: singling out Oreos, but it's your show.

933
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 2: Well, look, I love a regular Oreo. I love a

934
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 2: peanut butter Oreo. I just feel like we're getting we're

935
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 2: going all over the map. I feel like I'm seeing

936
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:12,479
Speaker 2: watermelon flavored oreos. I'm seeing you know, it's like many

937
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 2: of these are things that just should have never even

938
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 2: why did we even begin to think that should be

939
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 2: a flavor of an oreo. It feels a little bit

940
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 2: like Nabisco is desperate for attention. This is somebody. This

941
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 2: is the behavior of someone who is you know, uh,

942
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 2: you know. It's a red flags situation where I'm like, two,

943
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 2: you're doing too much all at once. How about four

944
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,439
Speaker 2: new Oreo flavors a year? We can do one each

945
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 2: season that feels sustainable. At some point we're going to

946
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 2: run out of flavors for oreos. Then what are they

947
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 2: going to do?

948
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,919
Speaker 3: But the problem is is like they'll they'll put out

949
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 3: some flavor like peanut butter or that you like, or

950
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 3: some watermelon, and there's a rallying. There's a group of

951
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 3: rabid watermelon Oreo fans that are like, bring it back.

952
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 2: Show me more than twelve people who want watermelon flavored oreos.

953
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 4: I'm in a Facebook group about it. Let me look

954
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 4: at up.

955
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 2: It's QAnon is what it is. It's the only group

956
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 2: that wants a watermelonary.

957
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 4: The official food of q Andon is watermelon.

958
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 2: Oreos absolutely a curse. I mean, look, I know everyone

959
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,479
Speaker 2: wants to have a little bit of fun, but I'm

960
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,280
Speaker 2: on the same page with chips too. It's just like, let's,

961
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 2: you know, let's just narrow it down to a few

962
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 2: good flavors and work on those and make those the

963
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 2: best thing. I can't keep track of this many oreos.

964
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 2: I don't need a limited edition cookie. It's just not

965
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 2: for me. Back off.

966
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 3: Oh god, I'm so stressed about the third one now.

967
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 2: Okay, well prepare yourself. Excuse me. I'm losing my voice

968
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 2: even screaming about oreos, and I apologize to everyone. If

969
00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 2: the volume got I need to take a drink. Here,

970
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 2: I'm back, My voice is fine. Okay. This is This

971
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 2: is another listener suggestion. This is an interesting one. Gift

972
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 2: to a curse. This is from someone let's give credit

973
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 2: where credit is due. Listener named Jack has suggested gift

974
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 2: he a curse calling food fair as in you know

975
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 2: fresh fair, or this Italian fair.

976
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:28,720
Speaker 4: Mediterranean fair.

977
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, I'm definitely leaning towards curse. I don't

978
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 3: love that. I don't I mean, I don't think calling

979
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 3: food fair. I think that's just pretentious. Like it's just food.

980
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 4: Like I think that I.

981
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 3: Really only read that in like restaurant descriptions on like

982
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 3: Google Maps or something.

983
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 4: It's like casual casual, downtown fair, casual downtown spot serving

984
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 4: Middle Eastern and Mediterranean fair, visa MasterCard accepted. You know

985
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 4: what I mean. That's the only time I ever read

986
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 4: about fair. So yeah, I'm gonna say a curse.

987
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 3: I think you're trying to I think you're trying to

988
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 3: make yourself sound like a food critic or fancy or something,

989
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 3: and I don't like it.

990
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 2: Cara, one out of three. I'm just telling you, one

991
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 2: out of three. Absolutely, Calling food gift fair is so

992
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 2: funny to me. Who in the world calls it fair?

993
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 2: Like it's such a gift, it's.

994
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 4: A gift just because it's funny and silly.

995
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 2: It makes me laugh.

996
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 3: Okay, I think it's only a gift if you actually

997
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 3: start doing it.

998
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 4: If I hear you ever on this podcast, I am

999
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 4: a subscriber, I will be listening. If I ever hear

1000
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 4: you refer to food not as fair, I will be

1001
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 4: tweeting at you, and my army of fans will be

1002
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 4: with me.

1003
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 2: From now on, I will only be eating the freshest,

1004
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 2: lightest fair. I will be serving fair at all of

1005
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 2: my parties, and food, as far as I'm concerned, is

1006
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 2: no longer part of my vocabulary. We're going out for

1007
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 2: American Mexican food. Oh, it's like something you dug up

1008
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 2: from the soil. Food. I need fair. I need a

1009
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 2: beautifully set table.

1010
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 3: Fair makes me feel like someone's playing a lute nearby

1011
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:21,399
Speaker 3: while you're eating.

1012
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 2: Are so much there's like yes, it's absolutely like the

1013
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 2: drawbridge is coming down. You're going into the castle to

1014
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 2: have your fair. I think that's fair. Is absolutely a gift.

1015
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 2: And you got thirty three percent. That's not a passing grade, Jesus,

1016
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 2: absolutely a failure out.

1017
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 4: I can't believe I filled this game.

1018
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 2: I should. I should remind listeners. I want to be

1019
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 2: Directions for this need to be very clear. We're playing

1020
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 2: Gift or a Curse on the Instagram. You need to

1021
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 2: post a photo of whatever you want everyone to vote on,

1022
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 2: and then I will repost it and will vote Gift

1023
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 2: or a Curse and then we'll get into this. So

1024
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 2: that's the directions. You post that the thing tag I

1025
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 2: said no gifts, will continue playing Gift or a Curse.

1026
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 2: It's very fun and eventually we'll have cataloged everything in

1027
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 2: the world. Gift he a curse, Yeah, and then people

1028
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 2: can come and see what's happening.

1029
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 4: It's a great idea for a game.

1030
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 2: It's very fun and as you can see, it's also

1031
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 2: deeply stressful. So you need a little bit of fun

1032
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 2: a little bit of stress. That's what happens on your phone. Anyway,

1033
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 2: come over to I said, no gifts on Instagram, and

1034
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 2: we'll keep playing the game. Hopefully not everyone will fail.

1035
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 2: Like Kara Caro moving on to driving.

1036
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 4: Me to gamble, I'm going to go to Vegas right

1037
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 4: now in a mask.

1038
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 2: Vegas is open right now.

1039
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 4: I don't know what's happening in fared Oh.

1040
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 2: I follow the Queen of Versailles on Instagram. Do you

1041
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 2: know her? I feel like she's spent probably the last

1042
00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 2: like seventy percent of COVID in a casino. But she

1043
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 2: recently announced that she's gotten the vaccine, and in her

1044
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 2: announcement she said like, and now I can go back

1045
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 2: to living my life. I was like, you have not changed.

1046
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 2: Stop you have been gambling. You've just been doing whatever

1047
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 2: you want. Queen of Versailles. That's another great Instagram follow

1048
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 2: Jackie Siegel. She's out of control. I'm out of control?

1049
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 2: What's happening here? I think the Oreos thing got me

1050
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 2: on a kick, and now I'm just saying whatever I want.

1051
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 2: This is the part of the podcast which I've recently

1052
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 2: used to be called I Said No Questions. Now it's

1053
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 2: called I Said No Emails because people are sending in,

1054
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 2: you know, a little anecdotes about bad gifts they've gotte

1055
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 2: or whatever, and so we'll just read something and see

1056
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 2: what happens.

1057
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 4: Okay, great, great, I love this.

1058
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 2: They write into I said no gifts at gmail dot com.

1059
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:44,720
Speaker 4: Now it's like something I can't possibly fail.

1060
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 2: So I'm into it right right. And this first one

1061
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 2: is wonderful because it's so short. It doesn't even have

1062
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 2: a deer bridge or anything. This person just was like,

1063
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 2: who gives a shit? I'm writing in I need help

1064
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 2: on what gifts to get my fiance for Valentine's Day

1065
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 2: this year. I always hate getting him candy. Help. That's

1066
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 2: from someone named and forgive me person at B A

1067
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 2: l Ie probably Bailey Bally Bailey. The fiance needs a

1068
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 2: Valentine's gift. What do you get people for Valentine's Day.

1069
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,720
Speaker 2: I mean I never get my boyfriend. I mean maybe

1070
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 2: we're Oh.

1071
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 3: I don't get anything. We in real life, my husband

1072
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 3: and I almost never get.

1073
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 4: Each other gifts. We just take each other out to dinner.

1074
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,399
Speaker 3: We just go to really nice places that we both

1075
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 3: wanted to try, and we do kind of like a

1076
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 3: fuck it all, who cares kind of dinner, you know, right.

1077
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 3: And we do that for Christmas, and we do that

1078
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 3: for birthdays, and we do that for Valentine. I mean

1079
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 3: Valentine's Day, I kind of think is so made up.

1080
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 3: We do like going on to dinner. So what my

1081
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 3: husband and I used to always do is go out

1082
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 3: on like the thirteenth because it's so much easier and

1083
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:50,240
Speaker 3: there's no crowds, right, like a couple of old Jews,

1084
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 3: even though I'm the only Jew.

1085
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 4: But let's see, what's he into? Is there any information?

1086
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 2: No, the person who wrote and just doesn't want to

1087
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 2: get the fiance candy. That's I mean, we're working with,

1088
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 2: you know, very little information here for a holiday that

1089
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:14,439
Speaker 2: is essentially only about candy and romance. Yeah, it's such

1090
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 2: a fake. It's such a fake.

1091
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 3: I don't know why there's one day of the year

1092
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 3: that you should love someone more than any of.

1093
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 2: The other days of the year.

1094
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,760
Speaker 3: But I mean something that they're just into, like something

1095
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:26,280
Speaker 3: that just makes them think that you know their taste

1096
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 3: and you know what they like.

1097
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like, you know, going back to

1098
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 2: your dinner thing. You right now, you can't really eat

1099
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 2: at a restaurant, order in some feast, order in you know,

1100
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 2: some light Italian fair.

1101
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1102
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 3: Well I just did this for my husband's birthday because

1103
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 3: it was just this January and every year I take

1104
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 3: him to somewhere to get steak on his birthday.

1105
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 4: I'm a vegetarian, but I take him to a steakhouse

1106
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 4: or something. And I just ordered out.

1107
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 3: And I just set up a little cute see a

1108
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 3: little dinner for two with a couple of candles, and

1109
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 3: we have like a little dinner together.

1110
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 2: And it was order from we went.

1111
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 3: We went to a steakhouse in Pasadena called a Royo

1112
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 3: Chop House. Oh, someone had recommended it, and so yeah,

1113
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 3: figured stay local because I live on the east side

1114
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 3: of town.

1115
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,720
Speaker 4: But there's also for violence.

1116
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 2: I know.

1117
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 4: That's other thing too.

1118
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 3: It's like you can't really get them an experience, you know,

1119
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 3: you can feel like we're going skydiving.

1120
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 2: It's COVID. Let's just throw things out there. Get him

1121
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 2: an ATV. We don't know anything about this guy. I

1122
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 2: mean literally, we can. You could truly lawnmower. Oh wait,

1123
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 2: does he like to watch?

1124
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 3: Because what about an outdoor projector, like a projector looking out?

1125
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:48,439
Speaker 2: Yeah? Right, everybody loves an outdoor projector. It's a fun

1126
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 2: thing to impress your friends with.

1127
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 3: And I think you you can use them indoors too,

1128
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 3: if you happen to have like a big white wall

1129
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:54,320
Speaker 3: in your house.

1130
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,280
Speaker 2: But I mean outdoors is probably a little easier.

1131
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 4: You can just kind of.

1132
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,040
Speaker 2: Hang a sheet. Yes, that's not a bad idea, and

1133
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:00,399
Speaker 2: you can.

1134
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 4: Maybe have like a couple of friends over for a

1135
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 4: distanced you.

1136
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 2: Know, movie sold date.

1137
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe not for Valentinze specifically, but you could watch

1138
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 3: your favorite rom com or whatever genre your your love

1139
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 3: bug is into.

1140
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, whatever thing makes you feel romantic. Okay, you know,

1141
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 2: Bally Bailey again, forgive me for not knowing how to

1142
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:24,919
Speaker 2: pronounce your name.

1143
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 4: I'm sorry that you wrote into two kind of non

1144
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 4: romantic people.

1145
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 2: Two of the least romantic people on the planet. Uh,

1146
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 2: you know, cover the bed and Roses cover the floor

1147
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 2: in roses, fill the bathtub with roses, and then purchase

1148
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 2: a vacuum.

1149
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 4: The cleanup on that looks tough. They did that on

1150
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 4: Salt Lake City. Remember wait they did they did that.

1151
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 4: Meredith's gay Sun.

1152
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 2: Brooks the worst person in the world. Thank you.

1153
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 4: I've turned on him. I loved him at the beginning.

1154
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:51,240
Speaker 4: Fully turned.

1155
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 3: No, I didn't have to turn. I was, you know,

1156
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 3: the beginning. I was like, Oh, he'll be fun. Like

1157
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 3: the first episode. I was like, he'll be fun, you know,

1158
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 3: He'll just be like now I'm I'm fully he's the worst.

1159
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 3: I never knew he would take such a turn. I

1160
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 3: feel like everyone hits me now. But he helped his

1161
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 3: He helped his dad set up all these rose The

1162
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 3: place was so weird. It was weird, and I was like,

1163
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 3: first of all, don't involve your child and setting up

1164
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 3: the day.

1165
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 2: No child should be sprinkling roses on beds.

1166
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the clean up looks crazy.

1167
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like a giant hassle.

1168
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 4: You can't vacuum up rose pedals. You gotta get down

1169
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 4: and do that with your hands.

1170
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 2: Well, you get a nice tank fac it's gonna clog,

1171
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 2: it's gonna clog. I don't know we're talking about, you know,

1172
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 2: the vacuums I'm working with. We'll clean any mess.

1173
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 4: Oh, we got a Dyson owner over here. You've got a.

1174
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:44,240
Speaker 2: Nice wet back, You've got your I've cleaned up plenty

1175
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 2: of rose messes. Let's answer one more question. Why not

1176
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 2: this person you know was able to address me? And you?

1177
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 2: Dear Bridge are and guest. I have a dilemma. You

1178
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 2: may not be able to relate to. But I don't

1179
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 2: want to make any assumptions. Okay, what what's happening? My

1180
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 2: mother in law has a birthday coming up, and when

1181
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,240
Speaker 2: asked what she wants, she says she doesn't want anything. Okay,

1182
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 2: I get this. I can't help myself. I need to

1183
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 2: get her something. Maybe I'm traumatized because growing up my

1184
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 2: parents always say that they didn't want anything, when in

1185
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 2: reality they did. You can imagine this causes a lot

1186
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 2: of distress. What do I get someone who says they

1187
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 2: don't want anything? Some background? This is what the last

1188
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 2: person was missing A little. Yeah, she's a stylish woman

1189
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 2: in her fifties. She's a very busy real estate agent

1190
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 2: who is always going above and beyond for others. Help me.

1191
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 2: That's from Stuart in Cincinnati. Stuart's mom is playing you know,

1192
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 2: some psychological games. Oh see, and I'm not reading, so

1193
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 2: that's my problem.

1194
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 3: Well, what comes to mine immediately for me is a

1195
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 3: DVD of Something's Got to Give. I mean, she's a

1196
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:56,919
Speaker 3: stylish woman in her fifties. Now, no, no, I see

1197
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 3: what you're And it sounds kind of like, I don't know,

1198
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 3: when you call someone. She might be the kind of

1199
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 3: person that's hard to buy for it because she has

1200
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 3: a good style and she has you know, she has

1201
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:09,280
Speaker 3: a specific style, and she's a busy real estate agent.

1202
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 3: So you're implying there's a level of success. Maybe this

1203
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 3: is like buying something for the person that kind of

1204
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 3: has everything that they need. They don't really need anything,

1205
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 3: so right, right, you know what I've been getting, if

1206
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 3: we're just going to throw out ideas, it's just been

1207
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:26,320
Speaker 3: getting in my Instagram. I have been getting served ads

1208
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 3: NonStop for this beautiful non stick pan.

1209
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 2: Oh.

1210
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 4: It's like I don't even know.

1211
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 3: It's almost like I could go on Instagram right now

1212
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 3: and scroll for five seconds and it would pop up.

1213
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 3: But it's like this, it's like this pan and it

1214
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 3: has a space for the It comes with a special spatula,

1215
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 3: and there's a space for the spatula to rest on

1216
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:46,879
Speaker 3: the pan.

1217
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 2: Oh I am finding I'm putting the dirty utensils and

1218
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 2: spatulas in the strangest places to keep them off the counter.

1219
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 2: It makes absolutely no sense. This is a brilliant idea.

1220
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's always pan by our place is

1221
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 4: what it's called.

1222
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 2: Okay, well, now look this, now that we've talked about them,

1223
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 2: they should be sending both of us a pan if

1224
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 2: I don't get a free nonstick pan from whoever the

1225
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 2: hell our place.

1226
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if she likes to cook, but

1227
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 3: that's kind of a nice I mean, she's a gal

1228
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 3: that's too busy for cooking because she's out showing all

1229
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 3: this real estate.

1230
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 2: Well, she's very she's a very busy real estate agent.

1231
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 2: I'll tell you right now, real estate agent. They have

1232
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:31,439
Speaker 2: to go out and you know, they're showing who knows

1233
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 2: how many homes, apartments, et cetera to people they're with

1234
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 2: these people, how about some stylish face masks, some that

1235
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 2: they won't be, you know, she might be.

1236
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 3: You can get like designer ones too. You can get like,

1237
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 3: you know, like a Louis Vuton or like, yes, so expensive,

1238
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 3: but you could get like a nice one.

1239
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 2: I feel like that would be not a that's not

1240
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 2: a bad idea for a real estate agent. Get some

1241
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 2: you know, some stylish masks. This magic pan that's nonstick,

1242
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 2: I mean I feel like most pans are nonstick at

1243
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 2: this point.

1244
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 3: I mean a set of nice wine glasses you can

1245
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 3: always get kind of like Rye Dell stemless wine glasses

1246
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 3: at like bed bath and beyond.

1247
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 4: They're not even that expensive.

1248
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 3: I don't think I have had those for since my wedding,

1249
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 3: and I've only broken like two of them when I've

1250
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 3: been black out drunk. I'm trying to think what else

1251
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 3: for the stylish woman in her in her fifties.

1252
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 2: Especially spends a lot of time in her car, you know,

1253
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 2: driving from property to property. Well, you know what about Yeah, No,

1254
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 2: I mean I had nothing beyond how about for a call?

1255
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 4: It's like, how about you teach her how to listen

1256
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 4: to podcasts?

1257
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 2: No?

1258
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,479
Speaker 3: Well, I was thinking a meta sort of gift would

1259
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 3: be something from the I said No gifts merch because

1260
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 3: she literally said no gifts. So you get her like

1261
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 3: a T shirt that says I said no gifts. It's like, well,

1262
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 3: you said no, you would.

1263
00:58:56,520 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 2: Go and just unload all of our merch on this person.

1264
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 2: Get her the gift Master game, the T shirt. She's

1265
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 2: going to be deeply confused, but then she's going to

1266
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 2: become She's going to find out that a good ten

1267
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 2: minutes of this podcast were devoted to her. I mean,

1268
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 2: I wish we knew her name.

1269
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 3: I mean, this is the gift you play her this,

1270
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 3: this is the gift you're being. You're very loved by

1271
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 3: your son in law. And less Stuart is a girl,

1272
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 3: because I know female.

1273
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 2: Stuart's really Yes, I've never heard of a female Stewart. Yeah.

1274
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 3: Can Stuart also confide in their spouse who is the

1275
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 3: child of.

1276
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,919
Speaker 4: The mother in law to see what she might be into?

1277
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 2: Because I feel like I keep going back to saying,

1278
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 2: this is Stuart's mom, and you know it's definitely the

1279
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 2: mother in law. I'm glad that you're keeping us on

1280
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 2: the right.

1281
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 4: Well whatever, I'm just thinking because in my mind, I'm

1282
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 4: thinking of my mother in law and I love her,

1283
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 4: but she's not my mom. And my mother in law

1284
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 4: just bought my husband gifts from nuts dot Com. Does

1285
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 4: your mother in law like nuts?

1286
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what brazil nuts. Do you like brazil nuts?

1287
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 2: I love zil nuts and they have health properties.

1288
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 3: She sent him a really cool It was like a

1289
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 3: bag of from nutstot com and it has all these

1290
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 3: little mini bags and some are different trail mixes and

1291
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 3: some are nuts, some are dehydrated bananas or like.

1292
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 2: I second nut is a good thing to keep in

1293
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 2: the car when you're you're a busy real estate agent.

1294
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 2: You're munching out snack for.

1295
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 4: The real estate agent lady on the go.

1296
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 3: And also kind of funnyn to send your mom something

1297
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 3: from nuts dot com in like a funny, giggling kind

1298
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:24,959
Speaker 3: of way.

1299
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 2: Stuart. I mean, the wealth of options here is just

1300
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 2: absolutely beyond what you could have possibly hoped for. I mean,

1301
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 2: this is this letter has really sent us in every

1302
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 2: possible direction. And if you can't glean something from this,

1303
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 2: I don't know what to tell you. That means you're

1304
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 2: a bad son in law. And I hate to say it,

1305
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 2: but you know it's true. We're closing up the mail bag.

1306
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 2: I've never said that before, but why not. We've really

1307
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 2: helped people here and I don't know what to say

1308
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 2: at this point. Kara Bridger I've just had a wonderful

1309
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 2: time with you. I mean, things spot out of control

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01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 2: with flavored oreos and they just you know, we've been

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Speaker 2: in a tornado ever since, and I feel great about it.

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Speaker 3: I hope you can still look at me the same

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Speaker 3: even though I brutally failed the game. Now I want

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Speaker 3: to go back and play Game Master because I feel

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Speaker 3: like maybe I would have done better, but you know, coulda,

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Speaker 3: would have, should have.

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Speaker 2: You're a gambler. You're a gambler.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet on I bet on black and two

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Speaker 3: times it was red.

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Speaker 2: So well, I'm thrilled, absolutely thrilled to have these stylish croakies.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I'll be what like, please send me a photo

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Speaker 3: when they're in use. I really can't wait. They seem

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Speaker 3: because their leather like you need to wear them and

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Speaker 3: really like let them soften up.

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Speaker 2: Oh of course I'm gonna break these in. You'll see

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Speaker 2: me wandering around the neighborhood. They'll be dangling off my glasses.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to be getting looks one way or the other,

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Speaker 2: and that's what I need at this point. Thank you

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Speaker 2: for coming on the podcast. It's been wonderful. And you

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Speaker 2: go listen to Kara's podcast and let's all just do

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Speaker 2: whatever we want to do. That's all you can do

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Speaker 2: at this point. Who cares. This is the end of

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Speaker 2: the podcast. This is where you move on with your life.

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Speaker 2: This is where I release you. And you know, if

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Speaker 2: you're in your car, get home safe, bless all of us, goodbye.

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Speaker 2: I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's

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Speaker 2: engineered by our dear friend Annalise Nelson and the theme song

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Speaker 2: is by miracle worker Amy Mann. You must follow the

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01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 2: show on Instagram at I said No Gifts. That's where

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Speaker 2: you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful gifts

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Speaker 2: I'm getting. Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher or

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Speaker 2: wherever you found me, and why not leave a review

1343
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Speaker 2: while you're there. It's really the least you could do.

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Speaker 2: And if you're interested in advertising on the show, go

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Speaker 2: to midroll dot com slash ads hell invit did you hear.

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Speaker 1: Fun a man myself perfectly clear? When you're I guess

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Speaker 1: tom home, you gotta come to me empty? And I said, no, guest,

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Speaker 1: your own presence is presents enough. I already had too

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Speaker 1: much stuff, So how do you dare to surbey me?