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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeart Radio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George,

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Speaker 1: and are you with you? Dan Baldwin with us. His

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Speaker 1: websites are linked up at Coast to Coast am dot com.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about his latest work called the Peranormal Pendulum.

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Speaker 1: Dan kind of take us through how it would work

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Speaker 1: for a dearly departed. How would you use it? Okay, again,

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Speaker 1: the learning curve on this for everybody out there is

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Speaker 1: extremely short. It's very easy. What I normally do is

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Speaker 1: I will sit down in the location, try to get

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Speaker 1: acclimated to the location, the grounding if you want to

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Speaker 1: call it that, and meditate for five or ten minutes

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Speaker 1: just to cool and calm the mind, and then hold

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Speaker 1: the pendulum and just start asking questions. First question is

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Speaker 1: are there any spirits here? And you know, nine times

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Speaker 1: out of ten you're going to get a yes. And

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Speaker 1: then it's just a matter of asking yes or no

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Speaker 1: questions to find out, you know, is this a male spirit?

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Speaker 1: Yes or no? Female spirit? Are you a relative? Did

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Speaker 1: you live here in the eighteen eighties? You know that

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Speaker 1: sort of thing, And you just keep asking questions and

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Speaker 1: you finally hone in. If you're looking for a specific

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Speaker 1: type of answers, you hone in on those answers. If

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Speaker 1: you just want to converse, you just converse the spirits sometimes. Sure,

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Speaker 1: it sets a humor quite frequently and a lot of

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Speaker 1: we've asked several spirits about this and we've got the

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Speaker 1: same answers. They can be playful. And one thing I

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Speaker 1: would like to point out to the audience, there a

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Speaker 1: lot of your reactions when you go into doing a

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Speaker 1: pendulum research with the paranormal, especially with the departed, A

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Speaker 1: lot depends on what you expect to get. In other words,

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Speaker 1: if you walk in and you're expecting a negative experience,

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Speaker 1: whatever happens to you, you're going to interpret that as

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Speaker 1: a negative experience. A good example of that is we

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Speaker 1: were doing a research in the museum and a woman

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Speaker 1: who was expecting a good experience said, somebody just brushed

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Speaker 1: my hair and she was delighted. She said, Oh, the

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Speaker 1: ghost touch my hair. This is wonderful. If she had

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Speaker 1: been going in expecting a negative experience, it would have been,

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Speaker 1: you know, an evil spirit grabbed my hair. So you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying is going into go into a

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Speaker 1: session with an open mind, and keep in mind that

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Speaker 1: most of the in fact, all the spirits I've ever encountered,

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Speaker 1: are friendly. Folks. Can don't interpret something that happens automatically

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Speaker 1: as a negative experience, because probably it's not. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I've never had a negative experience. Can Daljean predict the

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Speaker 1: future or only what is? I think primarily only what is.

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Speaker 1: I've had some some modest success a getting back to

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Speaker 1: the missing kids stuff, asking the question is it likely

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Speaker 1: that such and such what happened? But asked as far

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Speaker 1: as specific prediction of the future, I haven't had any

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Speaker 1: success at that at all. I mean, you can't pick

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Speaker 1: lottery numbers or things like Yeah. And for me, yeah,

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Speaker 1: people ask me that if you're if you're so good

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Speaker 1: and you're so serious about this, why haven't you won

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Speaker 1: the lottery? Well, that's an abuse of the gift and backfire,

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Speaker 1: doesn't it. Yeah, I'm not supposed to do that. And besides,

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Speaker 1: you you're predicting. You're trying to doubt something that hasn't

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Speaker 1: yet happened. Now, if a spirit is evil, that does

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Speaker 1: that come through on a pendulum? I mean, does a

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Speaker 1: pendulum swing wildly or anything like that? The only way

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Speaker 1: I can answer that is I've never had a negative experience,

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Speaker 1: not one, So I can't really answer that. Honestly. Maybe

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Speaker 1: that's a good thing, though I think mostly what people

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Speaker 1: when people have negative experiences, and I don't negate the

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Speaker 1: fact that there are negative forces out there. Don't get

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Speaker 1: me wrong on that, but I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: the so called negative experiences people have or just interpretations

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Speaker 1: of something, often a playful ghost. Most of the people

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Speaker 1: I've talked to in the spirit realm are friendly people.

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Speaker 1: They're there, you know, they don't have to show up,

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Speaker 1: they don't have to communicate. They're there because they want to.

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Speaker 1: If you're holding the pendulum and I'm standing next to you,

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Speaker 1: can I influence it? Have you ever tried that before? No, No,

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Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think so, because it's I'm

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Speaker 1: the one that's in contact with the pendulum. You have

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Speaker 1: to physically be touched. You know, you could disturb me

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Speaker 1: or right, you know, something like that, thank yes, thank yes,

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Speaker 1: to come through me. But again, you could affected you

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Speaker 1: could you know, butt me on the shoulder or make

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Speaker 1: a snide remark, right like that. Okay, it's that sensitive

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Speaker 1: though is But again, it's that simple. Like I said, really,

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Speaker 1: if you can hold a rock on a string, you

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Speaker 1: can communicate with the departed. I've got a couple of them,

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Speaker 1: and they're kind of neat. I mean they they they're

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Speaker 1: they're it actually looks like a neat piece of jewelry. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: some of them are quite elaborate. I like the ones

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Speaker 1: that have a I do a lot of map downing,

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Speaker 1: So I like the large ones that have a an

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Speaker 1: elongated diamond shape with a very very pointed tip, because

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Speaker 1: you know it's I use it on the map. Is

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Speaker 1: there a certain stone or material that may be a

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Speaker 1: little more receptive to this than something else? That would

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Speaker 1: probably be a personal thing, if you have a personal,

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Speaker 1: personal stone that you feel close to. But as far

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Speaker 1: as as far as I go, I go into a

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Speaker 1: store that sells pendulum, and I get the pretty one,

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Speaker 1: the one that I like. Yeah, and again I have

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Speaker 1: I have made out of wood. I haven't made out

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Speaker 1: of metal. I have a'm met of stone. I know

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Speaker 1: a guy who uses a sought off bullet. Like I

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Speaker 1: said told you earlier, I used a rock on a

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Speaker 1: shoe string. Well, as long as it doesn't have to

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Speaker 1: be that heavy, doesn't just just enough to pull the

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Speaker 1: string down exactly, just a weight on a string. Now,

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Speaker 1: I like to have everyone's because a lot most in fact,

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Speaker 1: most of my work is out outdoor. So I like

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Speaker 1: to have everyone just because of the wind factor. Now

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Speaker 1: you are watching a British ghost hunting show. You tell

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Speaker 1: me about that. I'm glad you brought that up. Oh,

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Speaker 1: the secondary group of people I would like to consider,

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Speaker 1: the pendulum that I wrote this book for, comes out

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Speaker 1: of that program. It was a British ghost hunting show

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Speaker 1: and it was a typical ghost hunting show. They go

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Speaker 1: out at night, they've got the green night vision goggles

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Speaker 1: and everything. They've had their electronic equipment and I guess

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Speaker 1: it was a voice box. It was one of those,

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Speaker 1: and they heard a desperate flee from a woman. Helped me,

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Speaker 1: and they didn't. And the reason they didn't they didn't.

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Speaker 1: They couldn't do anything else. All they could do was

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Speaker 1: so there was nothing they could do to help that

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Speaker 1: You know? Are you being are you trapped over here

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Speaker 1: on this side? Is somebody asking? You know that kind

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Speaker 1: helped that desperate woman out because they had another effective

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Speaker 1: tool that allowed them to have extended conversations. Now they

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Speaker 1: also use dousing, of course for finding oil and everything else.

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Speaker 1: Now how does that work? Um, well, it's the same principle.

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Speaker 1: What you could use map downs. In other words, you

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Speaker 1: have some property in Saint Texas that it's in a

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Speaker 1: on my property? And you hold it over a map,

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Speaker 1: then you could yeah, you could you know, you could

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Speaker 1: topo topo logical map, and you could just move the

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Speaker 1: a yes answer, yet there is oil. Or you could

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Speaker 1: take a pencil and hold it in one hand and

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Speaker 1: the pendulum in the other and said, you give me

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Speaker 1: then you could doubt how deep is it? You know,

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Speaker 1: when I was a kid, I thought that the branch

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Speaker 1: oil or water or anything else was kind of like

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Speaker 1: magnetic or something. It's really the individual, isn't it. Right now,

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Speaker 1: there is a pendulum called a witness, and basically it's

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Speaker 1: a hollow pendulum that you fill up with the sample

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Speaker 1: of whatever you're looking for. So, for example, if you're

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Speaker 1: looking for all, you would put all inside the pendulum

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Speaker 1: if you use three and one oil, you're gonna find

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Speaker 1: three and one oil. You know you're not going to

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Speaker 1: find the good stuff. We're going to take calls next

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Speaker 1: hour with Dan Baldwin. You're not going to do readings

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Speaker 1: or anything like that. Just try to keep it to

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Speaker 1: quick questions about the spirit world or the pendulums and

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Speaker 1: how they work. And you've been doing this for how

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Speaker 1: many years now? Well, I've been doing the pendulum for

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Speaker 1: more than twenty years. I've been doing the communicating with

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Speaker 1: the deceased probably about five years. What got you to

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Speaker 1: pendulum started way back. I gotta I don't hear voices.

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Speaker 1: what got me really good, freely, honest to God. And

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Speaker 1: I thought I was going nuts, you know, and for

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Speaker 1: not go away. And then A really realize, you I'm

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Speaker 1: not a detective, I'm not a trained investigator, and it

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Speaker 1: would say self trained, self taught. I've got some pretty

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Speaker 1: good device along the way, but primarily it's you know,

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Speaker 1: spirits learned that you have this gift, and they kind

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Speaker 1: of like bombard you. Not really the one thing I've learned,

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Speaker 1: to show up, they're probably going to show up just

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Speaker 1: because they want to talk. And it's I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's my personality. How do you know you're not being

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Speaker 1: deceived by them? A good question, and you don't at all.

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Speaker 1: It's like it, Well, it's like any other interview. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, I could I could be, you know, lying

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Speaker 1: to you. I'm not, but I could be. But it's

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Speaker 1: like conducting any other But I would know, you would know,

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Speaker 1: and you would do research and you would never have

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Speaker 1: you back on your program again. So yeah, you can.

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Speaker 1: You can ask a question and if somebody's lying, chances

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Speaker 1: are you can douse enough information to find out whether

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Speaker 1: or not that person is lying to you. Do they

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Speaker 1: make the yes or no cards? Because it would make

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Speaker 1: it easier when you're dowsing. There are charts you can use.

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Speaker 1: In fact that when I'm trying to douse somebody's name,

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Speaker 1: I've got an alphabet chart so that I can go,

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Speaker 1: you know, what's the first letter of your last name,

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Speaker 1: and he can go through that letter. That's interesting. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but mostly it's got to be a yes or no primarily. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what are the spirits trying to communicate with us? What

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Speaker 1: do they want? Again? That will depend on the individual

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Speaker 1: situation we were dealing with. We may have talked about

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Speaker 1: and these these spirits are connected. Do you sometimes do

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Speaker 1: giving you the information through the pendulum, right basically, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: comfortable maybe with stone than with metal. But that's a

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Speaker 1: I don't like the phancymm with mangles and bubbles on

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Speaker 1: Oh I like the gizmos. Yeah, well that's what works

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