WEBVTT - Ep16 - Viola Davis / "Fences" 0:00:16.840 --> 0:00:20.640 Welcome to Playback, a Variety podcast. I'm your host, Variety 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:24.320 Awards Editor Chris Tapley. On today's show, we have top 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:26.640 fives for you, top five films of the year. A 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:29.880 little bit later, I'll be talking to Fences star Viola Davis. 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:46.360 So stick around. All right, we're back and here's Janelle Riley. 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:48.960 Good morning, and we're gonna give you our top five. 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:53.960 No no, although aren't you doing like a bmorary mentions. 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:56.600 I'm gonna throw a yeah, a little bit of a 0:00:56.680 --> 0:00:59.720 cheap you have to mention that. But past you do 0:00:59.760 --> 0:01:05.000 what you it's our podcast, ours really. I do want 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:07.640 to preface this by saying that this year has been 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:10.679 pretty bad for me for movies. You know. It's there's 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:12.840 a lot of stuff I really liked, but very little 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:15.720 I loved. I don't know what it was the deal, Like, 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:18.399 I just was every time I put like a screener 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:24.800 in that everyone's been recommending, I've just been disappointed. Um well, 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:26.960 it's funny you would say that, because last night I 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:29.839 wasn't joking when I texted you that I was watching 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:32.360 The Shallows because I felt like I couldn't complete my 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:35.160 list without seeing it. Because so many people had told 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:37.640 me how good it was. I did that with Don't Breathe. Oh, 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:40.160 I did like don't Breathe. But but then see, the 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:42.000 whole thing about like the shallows are don't Breathe is 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:44.120 that you're not expecting them to be good, and then 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:47.279 when you discover them, you feel awesome. And since everyone 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:49.520 had told me how awesome the Shallows was, I was 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:51.600 a little disappointed. So I did not make my top 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:54.960 So it did not make five. No, I'm sorry to say, 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:58.640 but it was very entertaining. But yes, so top five. 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:04.160 Do you want to do your hoorable mentions? First? First? Oh? Okay, Well, um, 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:07.360 I suspect we we tend to agree more than we disagree. 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:13.079 I think, um my top five plus honorable mentions list 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:15.760 is very electic. The honorable mentions that didn't quite make 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:19.440 the list were I love certain genre films like Captain America. 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:23.960 Civil War I thought was so fantastic and coming on 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:28.520 the heels of Batman versus Superman fantastic, Civil War fantastic. Well, 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:31.880 now you're giving away my top five. Um. I thought 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:35.280 it showed how you could actually make two superheroes that 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:39.280 you care about fight against each other and have real 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:42.760 stakes and have them both be right and both be wrong, 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:46.440 and I I thought it was great. I loved to Rival. Um. 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:50.519 I loved The Conjuring too, although there was a point 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:52.560 in that movie where I literally said to my friend, 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:57.000 why do I do this to myself? You have nightmares? 0:02:57.120 --> 0:03:00.160 I'm freaking out. And then to feel Good movies that 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:05.040 that almost made the top five were Lying and Hidden Figures. Yeah. 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:07.959 I loved both of them, just sobbed at both of them. 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:11.200 They definitely win my Ugly cry Face of the Year 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:14.119 Award movies. But my top five is very colectic, obviously 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:15.920 when I get into it yet, oh no, let me 0:03:15.960 --> 0:03:20.160 throw out my honorable motion. Only one of those is online, 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:25.000 which is lyon, hugely emotional, amazing story. I've got Birth 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:27.880 of a Nation on here. It's taken some knocks, I 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:32.240 think from some snobby critics. Frankly sorry, but you know, 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:34.960 I think it's just like a thunderbolt out of Nate 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:39.080 Parker's soul in a in a very great movie. Um. 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:42.000 I was pleasantly surprised by how good that movie was. 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:44.440 I did not expect it to be that good. I 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:49.000 have fences, It's basically the play understood, but when your subject, 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:53.720 when your source material is that powerful, it's going to 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:55.760 transcend into the film space. And it did for me. 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:58.680 I mean, it blew me away. Those performances are fantastic. 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:03.440 I don't think fire See the documentary necessarily works as 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:06.240 a work of art. By the way, before I get 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:08.960 into this one, that's a longer conversation. I think it's 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:13.760 juxtaposition of of kind of the ordinary things happening on 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:18.080 this island while the migrant crisis is happening, with what's 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:20.920 happening with the migrant crisis. I don't think that works artistically, 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:23.240 but nevertheless, I think it's important to see a movie 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:24.520 like that to know what the hell is going on 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:27.599 in the middle of the Mediterranean. It's pretty riveting for 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:31.520 that jungle book, right, you're a big Jungle Book fan. 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:33.200 I mean I'm a I'm a big fan of what 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:37.719 it portends for the business. Because, uh, they pulled it out, 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:39.640 pulled it off of the plum. I mean it's like 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:42.040 it's it's you know, if that's the future. I believe 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:44.360 they weren't in a jungle something. I know it's supposed 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:45.960 to be all c g I and a warehouse in 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:50.159 downtown Los Angeles is insane. I've got rogue one. I 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:55.000 have not seen Roquine well, no spoilers, but it's it's 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:59.000 everything that everyone seemed to think the Force awakens. I 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:01.240 was not. It was a It was pure confection. This 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:02.919 is the first time I've ever felt steaks in a 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:05.000 Star Wars and I'm not a big Star Wars fan, 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:07.919 by the way, So take take that with for whatever 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:10.000 you need. You know how I love in Star Wars? 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:13.360 Is that Mr spot guy. I'm just I'm just here 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:15.760 to piss off some narrators, of which I am one, 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:18.120 So I did it. They didn't even say that. I 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:21.480 love his scenes with Gandalf. And my last one is 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:25.040 a Sausage Party. Your favorite movie of the year, My 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:27.839 favorite movie the year's Passengers? What do you mean these 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:30.719 are the two movies I think we disagree on. Yeah, well, 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:34.159 Passengers certainly, I just look, my brain was at the 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:37.320 door for that one. But Sage Party, I I feel 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:43.040 Seth Romans like our our great theologian. Uh look, Sausage 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:44.880 Party was fun, it had some Really, I don't think 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:46.880 it's nearly as clever as it thinks it is. I 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:48.680 don't think it thinks it's clever. I think. I think 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:53.039 it's just Jerry proud of itself when it has things like, oh, 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:55.520 the crackers don't get along with the Grits, get it, 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:59.520 and the bagel sounds like necessarily, I think it's just like, 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:02.360 I mean, I hear what you're saying, and I understand 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:04.200 why you have that perspective, But I actually I don't 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:07.840 think that it's like going for that reaction personally. I 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:09.719 literally think it's stone people in the room coming up 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:13.479 with jokes together. It's very funny. So um, the opening 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:17.200 number is fantastic. Um. I hate that it sort of 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:18.880 sells itself out at the end. I don't want to 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:22.680 do spoilers, but it basically throws away the whole premise 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:24.560 and and goes for a cheap joke, which kind of 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:27.080 bummed me out. But look at what there are worse 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:30.000 ways to spend what was it, ninety minutes something like that? 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:35.240 Number five. I don't know that I necessarily ranked these. 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:39.800 I guess I kind of do it. I think I could. Um, 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:43.839 number five would be the Lobster. I loved this movie, 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:47.760 and you know, I have avoided seeing Dog Tooth because 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:50.880 the description sounded so unpleasant. And now that I get 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:53.120 this guy's style, I think I have to go back 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:55.159 and see it. I thought Colin Farrell was fantastic. I 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:57.600 think Olivia Coleman has the best line of the year 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:01.320 as the hotel manager who says, um, you know, uh, 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:03.920 if you're having trouble in your relationship, will assign you children. 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:08.599 That always helps. I just and I wish that the 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:10.600 screenplay was getting a little more love. I know that 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:13.400 there it did get. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's going 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:16.160 to be a nominee. By the way play, I really do. 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:18.800 I think that Branch would be one to to spark 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:21.160 to it. It's it is a good movie. It's got 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:25.960 like it owes a lot to Ionesco. Yeah, which is strange. 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:30.320 I never like I was going to ask, which is 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:33.000 you know, on paper, this movie is nothing I thought 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:34.800 I would like. And I went to see it because 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:37.560 I really like Colin barrel. Um. It also, you know 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:41.880 has my trigger in its you know what that is? Animals? Well, 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:46.280 a specific animal. Yeah, um, and yet it was important 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:49.240 to the story and um, that's a brutal moment. Yeah 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:54.040 it is. But but I would say necessary, yeah, yeah, Um. No, 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:56.160 I thought it thought it was a fantastic movie. My 0:07:56.320 --> 0:08:02.120 number five. You were talking about genre movies green Room. 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:04.880 I did see Green Room. I love Jeremy Selnier. I 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:09.200 think he's an amazing filmmaker. Filmmaker. I mean he's made 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:10.920 two phone well, he's made three films. The first one 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:12.760 is really and he would admit this just kind of 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:15.600 throw away, but Blue ruin in this, I mean he's 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:20.760 mastered show don't tell. He's great with visual storytelling, uh 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:23.480 it is. You know, he's really great with geography, which 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:26.560 is crucial for a movie like this, and ten Cleverfield Lane. 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:28.920 By the way, I'm from that area too, you know, 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:32.160 really Portland area, so I have to say, like they 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:35.280 nailed it. Yeah. I told Patrick Stewart that when I 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:38.480 when we did our studio last year, because he you know, 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:41.640 I know, he interviewed him earlier this year for that. Yeah. 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:44.080 I mean it's I literally would line up for anything 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:45.520 this guy makes because I just love the way he 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:47.360 makes movies. And by the way, I mean, I was 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:49.920 looking at the Critics Circuit and the Best Actor winners. 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:54.120 Casey Affleck is nominating naturally, and only two other people 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:56.840 have won Critics Awards for Best Actor. Adam Patterson and 0:08:56.880 --> 0:08:59.880 Denzel Washington, Adam Patterson, Adam, I mean Adam drivers he 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:05.120 before Patterson. Uh, and so I was Patterson believe in 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:07.120 is Adam Patterson. I just want to throw it out 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:09.160 to some in TRIPID group. I think Anton Yelchin is 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:12.040 great in this movie is Rest in Peace. I honestly 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:14.640 think it's probably his best performance. He really makes you 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:17.080 believe the terror of the of the situation and that 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:21.000 that's no, that's no short order. So anyway, green Room 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:25.040 is my number five. What's your number four? Well, continuing 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:29.520 the animal theme, it's Zootopia. Yes, animation made it. This 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:32.079 movie is so see this is this is where I 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:35.640 would say, like Sausage Party thinks it's being subversive because 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:40.920 it has like a talking douche, But Zootopia is actually okay. 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:43.000 But but why does the douchetop like it's supposed to 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:45.520 be talking food and then suddenly toilet paper and a 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:49.360 douche can don't get me started, You've got me started. Douches? 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:52.079 And supermarkets? Is it? Everything in a supermarket is live? 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:55.440 Is that the premise? I don't know, because sometimes it's food, 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:59.000 and then sometimes it's inanimate objects, and then sometimes it's 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:02.319 a piece of corn. Then it's kernels of corn, like 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:06.240 I'm gonna write a whole He thought really hard about 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:08.760 all this, harder than I think they wanted you to think. 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:13.400 But z Utopia is so subversive, so clever. I mean, 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:16.480 it's basically, uh, you know, a hundred million dollar Disney 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:21.840 animated movie about racism, and it done so it's so clever, 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:24.480 and it's so funny, and it made a lot of money, 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:26.760 made a lot of money. It's also just beautiful to 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:28.640 look at. It's it's horrible. I haven't seen it since 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:31.480 it came out. I've been meaning to revisit. Do I 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:33.199 do like it quite a bit? Yeah, No, it's it's 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:35.560 I it's another one that I would pitch as a 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:38.800 screenplay nomination. Yeah. I think it's in the hunt, especially 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:41.560 with those scripts that fell out of the original category recently. 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:43.679 And it's been a great year for animated movies. I mean, 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:46.520 I really like Milana, I liked Finding Dori, but like, 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:50.000 I just think Utopia is just like Heads and Tails 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:54.200 above everything else. My number four and if we get 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:55.840 I have a feeling we might be getting into this 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:58.160 place where I mentioned a movie that's still to come 0:10:58.160 --> 0:10:59.600 on your list. It feel free to say as little 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:01.920 as possib until until you get to it. My number 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:05.480 four is Moonlight Barry Jenkins. Uh. It's obviously the year's 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:08.520 critical favorite, and I think there's a there's a definite 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:11.319 reason for that, which is this guy has a definitive, 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:16.839 clear vision, point of view, voice, and it ties so 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:22.160 interestingly with socio politics of today, identity politics certainly. Uh. 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:25.080 And it's incredible. I've said this before that he was 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:29.040 able to draw out the same spirit of of of 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:31.400 a character and three different actors the way he does. 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:34.480 And I watched it again last week. It's just a 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:37.439 powerful movie. It looks amazing, the editing is amazing, and 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:40.000 it's got the best I think ensemble performance over the year. 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:42.920 Everyone is so organic to the piece. And that's my 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:45.960 number four, Moonlight. Um. I will just add to that 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:51.080 mi herschel Ali, of course, Michel Ali. Of course, it's 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:55.000 a charmer, that guy. He definitely is. Uh. My number 0:11:55.080 --> 0:12:02.320 three is number four. Um, My number three is Moonlight. Yeah, 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:04.640 perfect Um. And this is hard because, like I said, 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:07.120 I did not rank these and so I'm sort of 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:08.640 looking at them on the fly. I sort of have 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:12.960 a three way tie for number one. Um, but all uh, 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:15.680 you know, I'm actually a little surprised that you're number 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:17.480 four choice because I thought it was far and away 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:19.320 your favorite movie of the year. It was up there 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:21.520 for a while. Things just sift around when you start 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:25.400 to revisit things. Yeah, exactly, Yeah, I mean it's all 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:28.240 of these movies are for me, the cream of the 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:30.079 crop in a year that wasn't so great. Yeah, I 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:31.760 mean I could use it tomorrow. Moonlight might be not 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:34.280 my number one choice. Yeah, I was gonna say, actually, 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:36.480 these five I could definitely if we did this last 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:38.000 week or a week from now, like they might be 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:40.400 a different ranking. Yeah. For me, it's these it's these 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:43.199 top three that are really all number one for me. 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:45.559 But um, I'm gonna I'm gonna throw a bit of 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:49.280 a wild card in with my number one. That's all 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:51.599 you're gonna say about Moonlight? I mean, one more is 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:54.800 there to say? What else can you be? Like I 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:57.320 said last week, like, you know, do we even like 0:12:57.400 --> 0:12:59.160 I feel like we shouldn't even put Moonlight in La 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:01.680 La Land on our list because they're so obvious. We 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:05.080 should open up those spaces to other movies. But you know, 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:07.199 I remember David Fincher said about the castine of Ben 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:09.920 Affleck and Gone Girl. Just because it's the obvious choice 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:13.040 doesn't make it the wrong choice. And uh, yeah it's 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:18.520 it's every performance in that movie is perfect, you know. 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:23.760 And yeah, it's it's just I've used up all my superlatatives. 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:27.200 You know what else can we say superlatatives? I don't know. 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:29.240 Did I make a word of man? I just put 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:35.000 on my pants and yeah, uh number three for me. 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:38.640 A lot of great documentaries this year. I mentioned Fire 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:43.120 at See Obviously O J O J Made in America 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:47.360 is amazing. Not a movie. The whole podcast could be 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:49.360 done about that. I don't have strong feelings about it. 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:51.800 But I don't have strong feelings, but I certainly understand 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:53.360 the people who have strong feelings that it's not a 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:55.320 movie that I'll say that. But I think the best 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:57.640 of them is Winer. Yeah, weener Is A is a 0:13:57.679 --> 0:14:00.520 great documentary. I I would lean more towards their teenth 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:05.520 because it's just so powerful and timely and relevant. But Yeah, 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:10.200 weener Is it's pretty impressive talk about the socio politics. 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:15.559 I mean, it's so zegeist because it's about flawed heroes. 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:21.000 I've said this before and just media obsession with titillation 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:23.840 and letting that get in the way of analyzing substance. 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:25.840 I mean, is there another movie that could be more 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:28.040 sum up this year than that? You know? And the fact, 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:30.080 like you said, that they got the access that they did. 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:33.040 I think after the fact, he wishes they didn't have 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:35.160 that access, but I'm glad that they did because it's 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:38.880 such a revealing portrait. It is just frailty really and uh, 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:41.240 it's been one of the best movies of the year 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:43.200 since I saw it, like way back in the spring, 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:45.280 and it's my number three, and you know, I think 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:47.120 it would still be a great movie even even if 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:49.680 it wasn't for some of that got you stuff that 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:53.280 they got, you know, I mean they did again, the 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:55.840 access they got is just you look back on that 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:58.400 and you're like, who, okay this, but thank god they 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:03.440 did you number two? Um la la land. I mean again, 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:06.160 what more is there to say? It's singing for us 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:10.120 nobody wants, although I was doing that in the car 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:14.440 on the way here this morning. Yes, well, you know 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:16.320 this is funny. We may have discussed this before, but 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:18.560 my favorite songs are not even in the morning for 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:22.240 best song. Um I was singing another day of sun, yes, 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:26.280 and uh and the start of fires. That one actually 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:30.480 is eligible phenomination. But yeah, that's a very very catchy tune. 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:35.600 I mean, perfectly cast. Damien Chazelle is just what more 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:37.600 is there to say? I mean, you know, Whiplash was 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:41.040 my favorite movie of Oh yeah, well that was the 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:43.120 year of the compound word, and it was Whip Last Night, 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:46.480 Crawler and Birdman were my three favorite movies. But there 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:48.800 was just you know, this guy knows how to end 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:52.320 a movie. He's really talented and he uh more importantly, 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:55.880 he's very confident and that shows like it's it makes 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:59.400 me mad. Yeah, I know, because very humble. He is 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:01.120 thirty one year. He's one of the nicest guys you'll 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:04.160 talk to. Uh you know, hopefully he stays that way. Yeah, 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:06.680 you never know what this business does to people. One 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:08.800 of these days, Jacob Trompley is just going to be 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:14.600 the biggest bastard. Uh. If Damian Chisel wins Best Director, 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:17.760 he'll be the youngest Best Director winner ever. Yeah, but 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:21.520 I mean, like, very deserving, kind of hard to argue with. 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:24.760 He he isn't you know, he's a wonderin as they say, 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:28.360 I was going to say unfun terrible, but I've mispronouced 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:31.320 a word to day. My number two is Manchester by 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:34.560 the Sea Kenneth Lanagan. I keep using the word immaculate 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:38.440 to describe it because it's really just perfectly tuned. I 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:41.840 just watched it again last night. Um, he's I think 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:47.320 our foremost humanist and that comes out, you know, wonderfully 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:49.480 in the film. As I said at Casey Affleck has 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:53.520 dominated the critics circuit for acting, and I think it's 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:56.840 because it's an amazing performance, an amazingly internalized performance. There's 0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:59.840 so much going on with him. He's a great act 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:03.840 he really is. Yeah, did you see No. I guess 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:05.280 I have to catch up to it. I'm telling you, 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:08.280 I bet he want a lot of fans. He was 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:12.280 really fantastic and and I was, I guess, not surprised 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:14.440 at how funny he was, but surprised that they gave 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:17.920 him guy, especially when you get him and Launergan together, 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:20.119 Like I saw them both at this like Amazon thing 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:23.080 a few weeks ago, and I was like, Launergan's hilarious. 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:24.760 I was like, can you get I was like, Kenny, 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:26.560 can you go like write a sketch for him? On 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:28.800 SNL that'd be great, and he's like, I did have 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:32.240 an idea broad comedy sketches. Well, I mean, I bet 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:35.400 he could deliver something interesting. It is very funny stuff, 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:38.560 and there is funny human stuff, absolutely, and they want 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:40.760 to make sure people point that out too, because I've 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:43.520 certainly used the term melancholy a lot and they're like, 0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:46.920 stop saying that. And it's a freaking downer man. But 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:50.679 there's definitely a lot of Kenny Lawnergan humor, including when 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:54.480 he shows up as a cameo. You know, it's funny. 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:58.359 I think they're leaning into the sadness of it now 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:00.720 because in Casey athlex monologue, it's night life. He kept 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:03.720 stressing how depressing the movie, but don't really yeah, And 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:06.320 I was like, thank you for just being frank. Um 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:09.720 interesting notes from the Midwest. My mom called me last 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:11.520 night to say she had seen Manchester by the Sea 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:14.400 because she read in Parade magazine that Casey Afflect would 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:18.440 get an Oscar nomination and she was just like, kind 0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:23.280 of surprised at how sad it was. Well, be warned, 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:26.760 it is a sad movie. What's your number? One? Um, 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:32.000 I might be a surprise to everyone but you Captain Fantastic. 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:35.520 Oh yeah, I forgot that I ruined it earlier. You did. 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:37.760 You ruin well when I said Captain Fantastic Civil War, 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:39.359 you said, don't win my list, and then I forgot 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:40.600 that it was on your list when you said that, 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:44.440 that's okay, we'll fix it in post um again. Moonlight 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:47.720 La La Land and Captain Fantastic. Every day you could, 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:50.040 you could change for my favorite, but I feel like 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:52.200 Moonlight La La Land have probably gotten enough love. I 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:55.600 am so happy that Captain Fantastic is getting attention. For 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:59.400 Vigo Mortenson, I'm so thrilled he got the Golden Globe 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:02.040 nomination in the SAG nomination and in the correct category, 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:04.600 and Golden Globes by the way, and the drama category. 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:08.600 And I really hope Matt Ross's script get some recognition. Um, 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:16.080 this is such an original, weird, funny, sad, uplifting sweet 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:20.560 movie times. Have you seen it only twice? Yeah? I 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:23.200 know I saw when, you know, right before it first 0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:25.960 came out, and then uh, fairly recently, just so he 0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:29.280 didn't see it a dance or anything like that. Yeah, yeah, 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:31.840 but you know what's funny, Matt Ross was one of 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:35.040 our directors to watch this year in January and he 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:37.280 came to our event and I saw him in Palm 0:19:37.359 --> 0:19:39.840 Springs and I was like, oh, man, I love that actor. 0:19:40.160 --> 0:19:42.679 You know, he's great and everything. And I went up 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:44.680 and started talking to him and then um it was 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:47.199 his birthday, no less, and then they were like, oh, 0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:48.960 you know, we're gonna get started for the directors to watch. 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:50.520 And I was like, oh, are you presenting to someone 0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:52.600 and he's like, oh no, I'm one of the directors. 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:54.560 And I was like, oh my god, I'm a sure 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:58.000 in that that. I kind of hoped somebody would throw 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:00.920 a bone to this year's Franklin. Frank clinch Ella how 0:20:01.200 --> 0:20:04.000 I'm so happy I got him ensemble nomination because Catherine Hahn, 0:20:04.520 --> 0:20:07.800 Steve's on Franklin Angela is It, and Owd who plays 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:11.400 his wife, Oh my gosh, I mean like, and these 0:20:11.560 --> 0:20:15.000 kids who are for a while, I really thought maybe 0:20:15.000 --> 0:20:17.280 some of them will relate it because they look so 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:21.359 much alike. It's just I, you know, I am best 0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:25.520 actor is I think probably down to Denzel and Casey, 0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:28.800 who are both very deserving, But I would love to 0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:31.440 see Nigo. Morton's video continues to just get in there 0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:35.200 for movies like this, because I think the movie. You know, 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:37.959 the problem is are people seeing the movie, but if 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:39.680 you see the movie, it's it's kind of hard to 0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:41.280 not vote for him. Yeah. I know a lot of 0:20:41.440 --> 0:20:43.720 hfp A people saw it late and they all were like, wow, 0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:45.160 I liked this movie a lot, and then sure enough. 0:20:45.480 --> 0:20:47.080 Well that's the advantage it has is that you know, 0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:49.159 they got screeners out early. It came out early in 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:51.680 the year. I think that's why it helped do really 0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:56.639 well with seg Um. Yeah. I just, I just I 0:20:56.680 --> 0:21:00.399 think it's a fantastic movie. It's my turn, alright, go 0:21:01.000 --> 0:21:05.640 My number one movie is Independence Day Resurgence. Oh stop. 0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:11.280 I think this movie has something to say about the 0:21:12.359 --> 0:21:16.000 horror that's about to be inflicted on this planet based 0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:21.159 on what's happened in this selection. God god, I was like, 0:21:21.440 --> 0:21:25.240 I was pretty sure, but I'm glad I got you. 0:21:26.880 --> 0:21:29.480 Oh of course you hadn't done La La Land yet, Okay. 0:21:29.600 --> 0:21:31.879