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Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Sunday, November thirtieth, and their

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Speaker 1: But this undefeated high school football team just keeps on winning.

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Speaker 1: And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Robes.

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Speaker 1: We don't make a habit of following the class to

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Speaker 1: high school Virginia playoffs, but we had our screen up yesterday,

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Speaker 1: refreshing and refreshing keeping an eye on a high school

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Speaker 1: football game yesterday for the wildest of reasons and tragic reasons.

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Speaker 2: Even yes Union High School versus Ridgefield High School correct

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Speaker 2: in Virginia. And of note, of course Union High School

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Speaker 2: has been not just in the national news, but in

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Speaker 2: the international news because it's high school football coach since

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Speaker 2: twenty eleven, went missing just two days before one of

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Speaker 2: their big It was a qualifying final, and they initially

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Speaker 2: said he wasn't wanted, They didn't have any warrant for

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Speaker 2: a complaint. But sure enough, a few days later, it

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Speaker 2: turns out he is now wanted on ten counts, five

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Speaker 2: of them for child pornography charges. The other five for

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Speaker 2: using a computer to solicit a minor. These are serious,

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Speaker 2: significant charges, and we're now hearing confirmation about where this coach,

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Speaker 2: Travis Turner, was last seen and what he was seen with.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, well, folks, the story was I mean

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Speaker 1: it was of concern initially there was a missing high

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Speaker 1: said coach of the undefeated high school team. That was

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Speaker 1: a part of intrigue and getting people to click. Quite frankly,

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Speaker 1: this high school team is doing well. They played the

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Speaker 1: first playoff game. He was still missing, but not a

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Speaker 1: fugitive at that point, and they won. That's hard enough.

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Speaker 1: Your coach is missing, you don't know what's going on.

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Speaker 1: But this game they played yesterday, folks, had to be

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Speaker 1: played with the understanding that the past several days that

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Speaker 1: Those kids went out on a field yesterday, folks, played

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Speaker 1: and did that. I we grew up in high school

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Speaker 1: and where high school football was King right in the South.

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Speaker 1: This brings a community nothing on a small community. Rallies

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Speaker 1: people more than your high school football team, and if

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Speaker 1: they're doing well, they are heroes en roods. I read

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Speaker 1: through how the community reacted and how they came together

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Speaker 1: and how they cheered those kids on at that game

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Speaker 1: last night, and it's just it was the yesterday afternoon.

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Speaker 1: But we kept our eye on it the whole time.

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Speaker 1: You and me watching a Class two A playoff game,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we were imagining what it was like for those

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Speaker 2: young men because this is, like you pointed out, this

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine the rumors, the finger pointing, and certainly

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Speaker 2: the questions that authorities would have for members of that team.

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Speaker 2: Because we should point out there have been no specifics.

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Speaker 2: We don't know if he is being accused of engaging

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Speaker 2: But certainly the spotlight has to turn to the kids

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Speaker 2: by their parents, by their friends, did you know, did

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Speaker 2: your head. And you know you played professional high school

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Speaker 2: So to be completely taken out of the game in

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Speaker 1: The accusations we're talking about are these types of things

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Speaker 1: are horrific. When you talk about the rumor type thing, though,

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Speaker 1: this community is just shaking. What brings them all together?

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Speaker 1: Right now? Our high school football team is undefeated and

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Speaker 1: this is beautiful. I didn't tell you we could have

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Speaker 2: And I knew you weren't going to do that.

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Speaker 1: It would have been an annual subscription to watch one game, right,

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Speaker 1: that's the only reason. But now they're playing again next

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Speaker 2: Well, my dogs are playing next weekend too, so that

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Speaker 2: We love football and we know how important it is

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Speaker 2: His father had been a high school football coach and

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Speaker 2: specifically this coach was godlike. I'm sure to the not

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Speaker 2: adding to the already it's already a tense situation when

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Speaker 1: This has been going on now here. We are the

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's been gone and missing for ten days,

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Speaker 2: I believe that, yes, it was a gray sweatpants and

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Speaker 2: It was a little bit warmer when he actually went

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Speaker 1: So his family said, when he went missing, of course

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Speaker 1: But while there's concern they have, they sound like they're

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Speaker 2: For the first few days, his wife did put a

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Speaker 1: So what is next exactly for this community, for this school,

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Speaker 1: for those kids. Stay here. We'll tell you why. The

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Speaker 1: But first and foremost, I mean, no matter what. He's

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Speaker 1: but that has to be the priority. Brogue is not

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Speaker 2: A hoodie, correct and has not been seen since. And

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Speaker 2: this is somebody who is incredibly familiar to everyone in

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Speaker 2: He's six foot three, a big guy, well over two

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Speaker 2: He hasn't been spotted or sighted anywhere picking up food

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Speaker 2: But as these things go, typically there isn't just one victim.

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Speaker 1: What was okay? The charges, none of them are actually

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Speaker 2: The other It was five yes, five counts of using

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Speaker 1: For some reason, it makes the victory more beautiful. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: And commend at this point. Jason Edward is his name?

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Speaker 2: I was imagining that like the shock. He's got three children,

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Speaker 2: But yes, we will be watching the Bears come December sixth,

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Speaker 2: that we will following the story. Thank you all for

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Speaker 2: listening to us on this Sunday morning. I'm Amy Roboch

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