WEBVTT - Set Your Soul on Fire with Ali Landry 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:07.040 Wine Down with Janet Kramer and I Heart Radio Podcast. Okay, 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:11.760 so this week's wind Down, we have Ali Landry coming on. 0:00:12.360 --> 0:00:15.360 You guys heard her story, by the way, I haven't, No, 0:00:15.800 --> 0:00:18.160 I've heard pieces of her story. She's a former Miss USA. 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:22.239 She's stunning too. She's beautiful, but she's like an on 0:00:22.280 --> 0:00:24.200 a mission to do good works for the world too, 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:27.600 which I love, world peace, world peace. She's like she 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:32.000 had um she dated Mario Lopez, right, yeah, they were engaged. 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:37.880 Oh uh huh okay, and no Ac Slater forever got 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:42.400 it noted? So she did not marry Mario. No, why 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:48.040 didn't they get married? Uh? Yeah, we know it's out there. Well, 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:50.960 it's hard because it's like he's a friend, got it, 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:52.880 got it out in okay? You know. But I think, 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:56.800 like we had said in the last episode, I think 0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:59.279 people can change. I don't think once a cheat are 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:01.680 always a cheater. Got okay, and there you have it, 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:04.000 and there we have it. I think, you know, I 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:05.840 think it's so hard too. I don't know. I can't 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:09.240 remember when they got engaged, but I can't imagine being 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:13.480 so famous too and just having everything at your fingertips. 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:16.560 Do you know what I mean yeah, I mean that's 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:21.039 like it's Temptation Island, right, Yeah, yeah, for sure. He's 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:25.760 so well known well and you know any Yeah, I 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:27.840 mean you look at remember that the Hugh Grant and 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:33.000 who was that Hugh Grant and Elizabeth what is her name? 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:36.360 I mean supermodel? Yes, yeah, I know what you're talking about. 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:38.560 He didn't he have an affair on her too when 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:40.880 they were married. Yeah, So I feel like it's one 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:44.640 of those things where, I mean, that's why always hate, 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:46.240 like how could they get cheated on? I'm like, anybody 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:50.680 can get cheated It's anybody, anybody. But I do love 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:52.960 what she's doing. But no her Alilander's father in law 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:57.480 found dead in Mexico sixteen days after kidnapping with her. So, 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:00.720 the father in law and brother in law we're found 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:05.320 dead in Mexico roughly two weeks after after they were kidnapped. 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:09.560 I know they both sustained traumatic brain injuries and had 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:11.639 been dead for several days when they were discovered in 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:16.200 the rural area. But I mean I can't even I mean, 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:20.440 can you even imagine no, no, out of their home. 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:24.040 That's so scary because I know when they say that, um, 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:26.679 like they say like don't go outside of the resorts. 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:32.480 Yeah that's like you know, yeah, I wouldn't. I don't 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:35.120 really like to deal like to got other resorts in Mexico, no, ma'am, 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:36.919 because I'm not when I go to Mexico or I 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:38.959 know those places, I'm like, I like the resort and 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:41.480 I'm not saying like Mexico is bad, like Cabo. I 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:43.240 mean there's that one place in Cabo we like to 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:47.800 go that like Flora something. But oh, I just don't 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:51.240 really honestly leave resorts anywhere. Like I'm kind of like, ah, 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:55.399 I'm good right here, just cozy and cozy and where 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:57.520 we're at like if. But I just think in that 0:02:57.600 --> 0:02:59.800 area like the Mexico And again, I don't want to 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:02.680 like talk bad about Mexico. I also just have heard 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:04.920 how I'm going to Jamaica in May. I think I'm 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:06.320 gonna stay on there. I did, but I don't know. 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:09.120 I don't even like when Sarah and I went to 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:12.640 the Caribbeans, I just get scared leaving the resort for 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:15.160 some reason, even though it's like they say it's super safe. 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:20.440 You guys, know who are you talking to? So she 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:24.320 had great loss. She loses a father in law and 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:27.839 so was the brother in law like around the same 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:30.680 time that she kind of started. Well, that's my question 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:33.840 for her actually without triggering, But I have a couple 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:37.240 of questions about that, because I'm really fascinated. She's created 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:43.200 this whole brand around reshaping your Life, and I'm it 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:46.200 seems pretty women focused from what I can understand. So 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:48.360 I'm just really fascinated to know. I have a couple 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:51.360 of questions actually, But her book is called Reshape your Life, 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:54.440 Don't settle because you are worth it. So we'll take 0:03:55.160 --> 0:04:09.800 a break and then we'll get her on before we 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:14.560 get Ali on the what's up with the therapy? Not trusting? 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:17.960 So not only do I just not trust men, but 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:20.240 I don't trust a lot of people. Yep, we got 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:24.279 them and um, yesterday we have like a deep dive 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:29.920 into that. From a very early age, it feels like 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:35.640 I wasn't super nurtured to trust myself because reality was 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:40.320 always questioned, my reality versus the family's reality. And so 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:44.719 I I am so sure about so much, but I 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:50.320 still will second guess myself. Interesting why because from very 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:53.640 early on what I knew to be true wasn't What 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:57.760 was their truth huh oh, that's interesting. Yeah, so I'm 0:04:57.760 --> 0:05:01.880 in like reality versus reality versus reality. I bet i'd 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:03.360 have a little bit of that too if I got 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:05.760 dug with like other family members. Yeah, And it was 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:07.680 really sweet because Amy's like, I really want to dig 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:09.160 with you, and I want to get to like a 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:11.440 good place with this, but I also want to do 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:15.120 that like really quickly before your baby's born, right because 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:17.640 I just don't we can't be doing this like postpartum 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:21.120 and exhausted and totally agree. So it'll just be like 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:23.880 a very intense few weeks, I think. But I feel, 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:26.200 you know, it's weird when you get to this kind 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:28.320 of place. I feel like I get excited to just 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:32.719 dig and like untangle. Sure, and I'm at that place. 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:34.960 So I had a lot of people reach out to 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:37.280 me about us, talking about like our age and like 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:40.560 when we argue or have things in these moments, how 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:43.520 we go back to our childhood age or whatever. I 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:45.520 just so many people reach out to me about that, 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:47.839 and it's like I'm still trying to figure out my 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:51.000 age though, figure out to do it at therapy, yeah, 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:53.680 because I just go em DR. Most likely that's when 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:55.840 like it'll pinpoint out that's not like an online quiz, 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:58.919 you know, like any pagram. Well, I can remember different 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:04.120 specific thing that we're so like, you know, memorable obviously, 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:06.680 but I'm like, I don't know. Well, it's interesting because 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:08.680 I'm like a very assertive person, but I also just 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:11.560 want everyone to feel like loved on, and so I'm 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:14.640 very like we had a situation at a friend dinner 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:16.160 the other night where I can knew that there was 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:18.279 like a group there was two people that were like 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:21.039 having a minute, and then I get like, I sit 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:22.760 in the middle and make sure I bridge the gap 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:29.640 because I don't was that me well times with Anna, 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:32.200 good for you bridging that gap. But you know, like 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:35.159 that is and some of that is great, Like Amy 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:37.120 is like, some of that is just that's a natural, 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:40.600 like good nurtury thing. And she's like, but sometimes like 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:42.800 maybe not that situation exactly, but she's like, and there's 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:46.240 some situations where it's okay to just like let it 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:48.600 fall apart, but you don't want it to fall like 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:53.479 you have a hard time not and that Yeah, no, 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:56.599 well it has been since I was any biddie. Yeah, well, 0:06:56.640 --> 0:07:00.800 so that is interesting. That leads me to something else. 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:04.840 Where with that do you feel like you because you're 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:09.400 so you're bridging the gap right between other people's feelings. 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:15.720 So then when I had a situation where I I 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:18.400 don't want anyone, didn't feel uncomfortable or the person. So 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:21.440 it's like I like, I then insert to to just 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:24.360 how do I say this, um without like telling the 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:26.720 exact story. I don't know. I tried to and then 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:29.280 you busted me. Well, no, this is a different story. 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:36.680 But this is like I I never want anyone, Okay, 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:40.360 so um, maybe this is helpful. But one thing I 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:44.320 love is that you'll nip things like you won't. You're 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:46.760 not like a You're not a mean girl like we 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:50.520 get in a situation you'll grab somebody and pull. No, no, 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:55.200 you're not anymore. No. Well, there was times where you'd 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:56.880 be like I'll stand in my corner, she can stand 0:07:56.920 --> 0:08:01.360 in hers. But I've seen you specifically just like pull 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:04.360 someone aside and say like, hey, like I just want 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:06.120 you to know whatever, I didn't do that the other 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:10.520 night though, Well you didn't need to say. That's where 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:13.880 I normally would go because I want to feel like 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:17.080 I have to say sorry for something that I didn't do. 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:19.680 You didn't need to say sorry, but I would in 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:23.200 the past to then have the situation not be awkward, 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:26.240 because it was awkward, right, But I wanted her to 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:28.160 go I'm sorry if that was because I felt like 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:29.920 maybe she should have him been like I'm so sorry. 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:31.680 This was just a little like stressful and like whatever, 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:33.080 and I'm like, oh my god, girl, no worries, it 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:35.520 all squashed. Yeah, But then I'm like, I don't feel 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:37.560 like I need to go say sorry. I didn't you 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:39.520 actually didn't need to, and I was like proud of 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:41.040 myself for not but then I also didn't like how 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:43.040 it felt to have that, Like but it's also like 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:44.680 a birthday party, and it's like we don't need to 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:47.040 be like having therapy in the corner either. Like that's 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:50.360 where I also go, okay, maybe another time, another place, right, 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:53.080 Like this doesn't need to be do you know what 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:55.240 I mean? Though, I like, you just don't want the 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:57.719 negative and I don't like the energy, so I'll just 0:08:57.800 --> 0:09:00.280 be like I'll fall on a sword or or I'll 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:02.319 just be like, oh, it's only non swords used to 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:06.200 be my pastime, and I'm curious about your other story 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:10.600 though I know, well it kind of like it. It 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:16.520 goes kind of along the similar lines of that dinner, 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:19.400 but just making sure that everyone's having a good time. 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:21.439 And when I feel that maybe someone's not having a 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:25.200 good time, I then like get more like anxious to 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:32.160 like make a stronger blend. That makes sense, Yeah, yeah yeah, 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:34.560 And I'm like, why do it? Why shouldn't Why am 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:42.280 I putting my own uncomfortable feelings on somebody else? Yeah? Yeah, 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:45.719 So I don't know why what, I don't know why. 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:47.600 I used to care a lot about that, but that 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:50.040 made me good at a lot of my jobs. Like 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:52.520 I used to work in the record business, and so 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:54.840 that was like, that was such a good trait to 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:57.960 have for that season of life. Sure, and then I 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:00.839 learned it no longer serves me. I'm oxygen mask on 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:03.880 myself before assisting others. Right, oh yeah, good points. So 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:06.640 now I'm just like, Okay, well, I'm I'm the girl 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:09.400 that's texting you. Sorry you feel that way, I'm really not. 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:13.800 But if someone texts you I'm sorry you feel that way. 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:16.199 After you said I feel like these messages are quite aggressive, 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:18.920 I'm sorry you feel that way. You're done, You're dead 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:20.720 to me. Hey, guys, this is where I like have 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:22.600 a hard time because I'm like, just pick up the 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:25.280 freaking phone and say, hey girl, things are getting crazy. 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:27.719 You need to hear my voice say I'm sorry. This 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:31.280 is not how it's so nipped. I think the text 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:34.280 that being said my husband used to I think I've 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:35.880 said this before. My husband used to come to me 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:38.600 after we fought, and he would say I'm sorry we fought. Yes, 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:42.120 And I'm like, that is not an apology. What is 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:47.559 that that much interesting? It would bother me, But I see, 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:50.800 I see, because it's not even you wasted a whole sentence. 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:54.880 You just wasted one that's worthless to me. Get out 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:58.600 of here. Hey it's communicating, but is it not real? 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:03.160 It's a spaceholder. It's just a little taking any accountability 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:07.000 or asking what can I do different? Or no, but 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:09.640 you can be. It should have been i'm sorry, we fought, 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:11.960 and right right right, there should be more to it. It 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:14.120 It should always sounds like an opening to me for 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:18.080 the kid. It's not i'm sorry, period, it's i'm sorry 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:20.720 we fought. Yeah, it's not a health thing to do 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:24.720 this better. It's one sentence. Yeah, noa I hear you 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:27.400 on that? Okay, Well, I'm glad we're in agreement. Okay, sorry, 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:31.679 we fought cat. Okay, so can you guys. I want 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:35.640 to do something kind of fun. Okay, and young oh 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:39.320 I need it. So Maggie came here. She's like, is 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:42.839 it me? So come sit, come sit, come sit over here. 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:45.480 And I don't know what's happening. You want her? Where 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:49.679 do you want her? No, it's I like it here. Yeah, 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:53.360 we know. Maggie thinks we're soothing to listen to. I 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:56.000 want to quote that. Let's let's sweeze in just a 0:11:56.000 --> 0:12:01.720 little big but no, you did not. You're good. Okay, 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:05.040 So one seat over here. Okay, we'll caught all that piece. Okay. 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:08.240 So I wanted to do something a little fun because 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:11.839 I okay, this this kind of drives me semi nuts. 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:13.600 But a lot of the brainy people are like, yeah, 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:16.120 gotta get on TikTok. And I'm like, I, yes, I'm 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:20.680 on TikTok, but I don't know what to do and whatever. 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:24.400 So Maggie. We met sweet Maggie at an event and 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:27.840 she's young, she's fresh, she's hip, and she came up 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:29.440 with this really cool idea. Do you want to tell 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:31.640 them about what you want to do on Broadway for 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:35.720 wine down? Oh boy, I would love to. Um. Okay, Well, 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:40.040 obviously this podcast is very about relationships. You talk about 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:42.839 a lot of different things that a lot of young 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:46.320 people are either going through in real time or in 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:48.920 real time making the mistakes that you guys talk about 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:54.880 and like try and avoid things like that. Maggie, Maggie, 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:57.880 I really like you. I feel younger just because you're 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:00.360 with us. To take a deep breath, Yeah, well I 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:04.000 was like ran up the stairs, but okay, anyway, So 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:06.760 my idea is that some time on Broadway every weekend, 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:10.920 I am that girl that I meet so many girls, 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:14.000 and literally, like I watched mistake after mistake, I am 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:17.800 sometimes involved in them. But I thought you guys, like 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:20.920 we could pose a question and we could hit the 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:24.000 streets of Broadway and find girls just random, you know, 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:26.640 if we like their outfit, we'll talk to them whatever 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:29.400 gets us connected, and we'll ask them a question, and 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:31.160 then you guys talk about it and you kind of 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:34.280 like how would you act in that moment and how 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:36.160 would you deal with it? Now, So Maggie's in a 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:40.360 record the question and then we're gonna play it on here. 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:42.480 So like some mondays we'll be like, all right, Maggie 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:45.520 was live on the streets and Broadway, and we've got 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:49.480 a you know, someone from Indiana asking us about whatever, 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:52.760 you know, because usually we just get DM sent to us. 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:54.880 But this way, it's like, if you see Maggie on 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:59.760 the streets in Broadway, Maggie in the field, we'll come 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:02.520 up a really good name. Yeah, so clearly that's not 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:05.840 one that she liked. Okay, Maggie, how old are you? 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:10.640 Just for record, I'm twenty one. You are job of fetus. No, 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:14.840 this is a fetus tunny. You're beautiful and you have 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:18.800 great energy. Thank you. Yeah, I really like you. I'm 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:20.320 excited for you to be Maggie in the Field or 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:21.800 whatever name you think is better. I think it was 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:25.320 something on Broadway, like Maggie on Broadway or like where 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:27.560 it's like. But again, like, okay, well, if this is 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:30.560 wine Down, what shouldn't it be like wind up, wind up, 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:36.240 I don't know, wind up on Maggie, Maggie, Maggie Broadway. Okay, 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:39.880 this guy, let us know what this is like a whiteboard, 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:42.480 off the record, I'll put a question on the Wine 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:45.280 Down Podcast Instagram and you guys leave us your thoughts 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:47.560 boom and so I don't know, just like whenever you 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:50.240 find yourself down there, you're gonna just video. And then 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:54.240 when we're recording on a normal weeks, well, we're gonna 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:58.760 have a little segment Maggie something something clear. We will 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:02.360 not be on Broadway, you guys. When it was first 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:04.800 brought up, I was like, I had a moment where 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:06.440 I was like, how do we do that? How am 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:08.520 I on Broadway once a week? Like, I was like, 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:10.720 I don't know that I can hang, but I'm gonna try. 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:13.480 For Maggie, I think you guys could hang. I think 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:16.080 you could hang at least maybe once every other month. 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:18.600 That could be fun. I think you guys need Oh, 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:20.720 I think that'd just be great content anyway. No, I 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:25.080 think you know wind Doown needs to get wind Up? Yeah? 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:27.360 Wind Up on Broadway? Yeah, I like that. And then 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:30.520 also I'm thinking, like for Cmas, like maybe we do 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:34.080 a live podcast like somewhere downtown, you know what I mean, 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:36.320 and grab some people from the streets. They can ask 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:39.520 some questions like the whole thing. So we're going to 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:42.440 manifest that. Okay, that's and then Maggie's gonna go do 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:45.440 her work on Broadway and then you'll report back to us. 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:49.520 Oh my god, I'm so excited, Maggie. You're like a 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:53.080 whole new element. I'm here for this, right, Yeah, And 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:55.880 it has to be like all ages and maybe even dudes, 0:15:56.040 --> 0:16:00.680 you know what I mean. Oh, I think dudes for sure. 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:02.840 I think they are probably the ones that the more help. 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:07.120 I think, well, you really feel, Maggie. There's about a 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:09.440 twenty year gap between us, and I I just want to say, amen, Um, 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:15.480 I could be Maggie's mother, just so we're clear, but 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:17.440 I do Um. I think you're right, And I think 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:19.440 it's interesting. Like even when we're out on wine, down 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:23.400 on the streets, like on tour, I feel like guys 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:26.320 actually have questions and they're a little like more anxious 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:29.640 to ask in person or like anxious to just write 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:31.240 or whatever. So I think this is gonna be awesome. 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:34.080 I think we're gonna be surprised how many sweet gentlemen 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:38.960 have some inquiring minds out there. Yeah, for sure, I 0:16:39.000 --> 0:16:41.600 think that it would be very interesting. And also, you know, 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:43.720 you get a couple of drinks, you feel a bit 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:46.520 more relaxed, more loose, and I think the questions will 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:48.800 be very interesting. We need to keep a blooper real 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:51.120 as well, because I have a feeling like a little collaboration, 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:53.560 like a little This feels very sex and city to me, 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:55.560 and I'm here for it for a season. Dives on 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:59.960 carry that's tough, tough, tough. It's okay, Maggie, it's okay. 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:02.160 All right, let's take a break and then we're going 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:04.240 to talk about our guests that it's coming up very soon. 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:20.959 Hy you guys, Hey Ali, I am Janna. This is 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:25.800 how I'm Kristen and Catherine and we are at wind down. 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:27.840 So thank you so much for coming on to talk 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:31.000 about your book. I love you and everything that you are. 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:35.520 I've obviously followed you and everything that you've done, and 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:39.000 I just the fact that you have this now book out, 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:42.320 it's just like you you. Um, how do I say this? 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:46.320 Like you just exude so much light. Thank you than 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:49.239 I really appreciate that, because you know, that's how I 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:52.240 like to describe people, especially people I surround myself with. 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:55.600 I really try to look for those people that you know, 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:58.120 when they're when they walk into the room, it's like 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:00.639 they are glowing. Lots of people I alway one around 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:03.760 me because I feel like they lift me up, you know, 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:07.400 just with their light. So thank you, no, of course, 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:10.440 And I feel like for you, like you've you've had 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:13.960 reasons to not have that light, you know, like there's 0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:15.800 been so many things that have happened in your life 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:18.320 where you could have easily gone down a road where 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:23.240 you're just like bitter or angry, just dark, and you've 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:25.960 chosen to find that light. And I'm curious, like for you, 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:30.919 what was like, how did you tap into that? You know? 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:34.240 I've always yeah, I consider myself, you know, a student 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:38.320 of life. I always want to grow, evolve. I love change. 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:40.600 Some people like are really fearful of change. For me, 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:45.400 I like, really I really love it because it means growth, 0:18:46.280 --> 0:18:49.560 and you know it hasn't I call those I've like 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:52.720 two things I think specifically that I called my forced 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:58.720 reshaped And one was around heartbreak, break and betrayal, and 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:03.679 one was around tragedy and loss. And in both of 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:07.199 those situations, I feel like I had a choice, you know, 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:12.320 I could have easily swept those emotions and those feelings 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:14.479 like under the rug and just kind of moved on. 0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:17.480 I mean, life happens fast, right, even when these things 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:19.199 hit us, and it's going to happen to all of us. 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:22.879 But you're at at that crossroads where you really have 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:25.800 a choice. And for myself, I knew that if I 0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:29.040 didn't deal with the emotions, the pain, the despair on 0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:31.919 your knees and like complete desperation, that it was going 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:34.440 to come back to haunt me later on in life, 0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:36.399 and that I was not willing to deal with. I 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:39.480 knew that I had to sit in that pain in 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:44.200 order to move forward and not make maybe not it 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:46.160 wasn't you know it, Like I made mistakes in all 0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:48.920 of them, but I mean, I think in the betrayal situation, 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:51.800 I obviously had a choice. I had to have to 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:55.640 at least take a little bit of responsibility. So I 0:19:55.720 --> 0:19:57.880 just knew that I didn't want that in my life 0:19:57.880 --> 0:20:00.960 moving forward. I wanted to move forward. Of all it's transformed, 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:03.639 all of it, And even though sitting in that pain 0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:08.080 it's hard, I feel like, and you got to do 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:09.960 a lot of work, you know, I did a lot 0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:16.240 of work, but that's where the true transformation like happens. Absolutely, 0:20:16.800 --> 0:20:20.119 I'm curious if we can go to that betrayal heartbreak piece, 0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:24.159 because I mean we can, we both can relate to 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:29.360 being cheated on in relationships and like so many other 0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:34.960 women and men. But the it's interesting. I was reading 0:20:35.000 --> 0:20:36.600 something that I was that I was working on, and 0:20:36.640 --> 0:20:40.800 I was talking about forgiveness and how you know my 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:44.239 ex husband and they say, you know, forgiveness is not 0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:46.439 you know, for the other person, it's for you. But 0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:50.760 I also wonder, do you really have to forgive them? 0:20:50.760 --> 0:20:52.600 Can you just be like, because I think there's a 0:20:52.640 --> 0:20:55.719 piece where I'm like, how do I say this, Like 0:20:55.840 --> 0:21:01.520 I I don't feel like you almost have to forgive them, 0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:03.359 and you don't, but that doesn't mean that it still 0:21:03.359 --> 0:21:05.639 harbors all there was, like the resentment and anger and 0:21:06.480 --> 0:21:08.760 issues like I can just be like, I don't forgive 0:21:08.840 --> 0:21:11.040 him for that peace and cheating on me during our 0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:13.320 marriage and you know, the separation of all the things. 0:21:13.800 --> 0:21:15.840 But I can just go. But that was our pass 0:21:15.840 --> 0:21:18.280 and you can accept it without forgiveness. And I'm curious 0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:20.119 kind of where you on with acceptance, you know, and 0:21:20.240 --> 0:21:23.159 the forgiveness piece of all that. I think I have 0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:25.840 a little bit of the same sentiments as you. You know. 0:21:25.920 --> 0:21:29.040 It's really the crazy thing is forgiveness is a hard 0:21:29.080 --> 0:21:31.359 thing to wrap your head around. Especially when you're in 0:21:31.440 --> 0:21:34.800 that situation of betrayal. Because my initial thing, you know, 0:21:34.880 --> 0:21:37.119 everybody says that you have to forgive in order to 0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:39.440 like move on. Well, I didn't understand what that meant, 0:21:39.520 --> 0:21:43.240 like in my mind, like he really it was horrible, 0:21:43.760 --> 0:21:47.520 you know what he did, And forgiveness for me almost 0:21:47.680 --> 0:21:51.359 felt like at the time initially like I was giving 0:21:51.720 --> 0:21:55.760 that person a free pass, and I just like, at 0:21:56.040 --> 0:21:59.679 you know, their stages. Right in the beginning, I was like, 0:21:59.720 --> 0:22:01.879 I'm given him a free pass, like that's not cool. 0:22:01.960 --> 0:22:03.399 You don't do that to people, like you don't do 0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:05.639 that to another being, and so what I'm just supposed 0:22:05.680 --> 0:22:09.239 to say it's okay. But then I guess, you know, 0:22:09.560 --> 0:22:11.840 the more I kind of sat in it and dug in. 0:22:11.960 --> 0:22:15.960 I journaled through that time. I remember just like sitting 0:22:15.960 --> 0:22:18.600 in my sister was with me. I remember sitting I 0:22:18.640 --> 0:22:20.919 think in my house for like over a month. I 0:22:21.000 --> 0:22:23.679 was reading The Purpose Driven Life. At the time. I 0:22:23.720 --> 0:22:27.080 had like a student Bible. I had my passages, you know. 0:22:27.080 --> 0:22:29.720 Every time anger would bubble up inside of me or 0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:32.720 like I felt like I needed to take action, I 0:22:32.760 --> 0:22:35.479 would immediately go to that word in that like student 0:22:35.520 --> 0:22:38.560 Bible and I would read it and it was like 0:22:38.720 --> 0:22:41.560 peace would kind of like wash over at me, which 0:22:41.600 --> 0:22:45.280 was kind of like such a crazy thing. And then 0:22:45.880 --> 0:22:49.680 I just knew that over time, I didn't even want 0:22:49.720 --> 0:22:53.400 to carry I didn't want to carry any of it 0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:58.080 moving forward, you know. So but it wasn't until much 0:22:58.240 --> 0:23:01.959 later that and it's again, it's the place you're in, 0:23:02.080 --> 0:23:05.119 it's the process, and sometimes people say certain things and 0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:08.359 it lands on you in a completely different way. And 0:23:08.400 --> 0:23:11.800 it did land on me about how you know, if 0:23:11.840 --> 0:23:16.000 I didn't really dig into it and understand what forgiveness was, 0:23:16.080 --> 0:23:18.840 it was doing nothing for that person, Like it was 0:23:18.880 --> 0:23:23.719 really just for myself, right, So that I understood. So 0:23:23.760 --> 0:23:26.640 that was like okay, yeah, because then it takes away 0:23:26.640 --> 0:23:28.920 the power from that person, you know, then you take 0:23:28.920 --> 0:23:31.200 it back for yourself, like I want to be amazing, 0:23:31.280 --> 0:23:33.520 I want to move forward with no resentment nor whatever. 0:23:35.280 --> 0:23:38.160 And that's sort of how I kind of held onto 0:23:38.200 --> 0:23:43.760 forgiveness moving forward. But I think because I did that 0:23:43.920 --> 0:23:50.879 work in that time, a lot of work just about it, 0:23:51.240 --> 0:23:54.480 like a lot a lot of a lone time. I mean, 0:23:54.840 --> 0:23:57.840 you know, all of it. I look back and I 0:23:57.880 --> 0:24:00.000 almost think like it was one of my greatest gifts. 0:24:00.400 --> 0:24:06.520 I truly it changed me as a woman. I understood 0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:09.879 my worth and that's kind of part of why that 0:24:09.960 --> 0:24:12.560 title is there, like you are worthy, because if you don't, 0:24:12.600 --> 0:24:14.879 another woman doesn't see it in themselves. I want to 0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:19.320 acknowledge that, like you are worthy. I recognize my worth. 0:24:19.600 --> 0:24:22.920 And I knew that moving forward, I was going to 0:24:23.000 --> 0:24:25.879 do things differently and I needed to be very clear 0:24:26.240 --> 0:24:28.679 about how I was going to move forward. So like 0:24:28.720 --> 0:24:31.600 I wrote it down. I wrote down very very specifically 0:24:31.880 --> 0:24:34.640 that man, that the man that I wanted to come 0:24:34.680 --> 0:24:36.879 into my life, what I needed him to look like, 0:24:36.920 --> 0:24:39.399 what qualities I needed him to have. So when it 0:24:39.480 --> 0:24:42.280 came in and it was not that, it was like whoa, 0:24:42.640 --> 0:24:44.720 you know, the siren was going on. And it's also 0:24:44.720 --> 0:24:47.520 probably easier to just be like nope, oh yeah, now 0:24:47.560 --> 0:24:49.560 I don't have turned to on that right, Like so 0:24:49.760 --> 0:24:53.280 it's just it's like clarity, right, and I'm so type 0:24:53.680 --> 0:24:56.960 that I just don't want to make a mistake your life, right, 0:24:57.480 --> 0:25:00.199 So I knew I needed to figure it out. Um, 0:25:01.000 --> 0:25:03.679 and you know, I have a strong faith. You know, 0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:06.359 my faith is very important to me. And also it 0:25:06.440 --> 0:25:09.040 was like kind of surrendering, like I didn't trust myself 0:25:09.080 --> 0:25:12.119 a lot of that time, and I sort of leaned 0:25:12.359 --> 0:25:15.640 on God and was like, look, I made a horrible mistake, 0:25:15.760 --> 0:25:18.520 like I totally screwed up. I need you to like 0:25:18.800 --> 0:25:21.040 put one foot in front of the other because I 0:25:21.119 --> 0:25:23.480 don't want to make the same mistake yet, right, And 0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:26.560 that's kind of how it. Yeah, I know. It's so 0:25:26.640 --> 0:25:29.200 interesting because I'm like when when I hear you talking, 0:25:29.240 --> 0:25:31.000 because it's like it's so easy to be like, yeah, 0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:33.439 I forgive you, but I'm like, I don't really. I 0:25:33.440 --> 0:25:35.639 started I started peeling back layers. I'm like, do I 0:25:35.680 --> 0:25:39.360 really forgive him? It's almost like I feel sorry for 0:25:39.480 --> 0:25:42.240 him because like that just meant that he was hurt. Right, 0:25:42.280 --> 0:25:44.760 So it's like hurt people, you know, like hurt people. 0:25:45.400 --> 0:25:48.920 But I also can be like but it's okay, Like 0:25:49.680 --> 0:25:51.800 it's it's I'm sorry, and it's okay. Like at this point, 0:25:51.840 --> 0:25:53.720 it's like it's okay now, right, because you see the gift, 0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:55.439 you see the sliver lining, you see that you're so 0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:57.560 much better off. It's like, thank you for showing me, 0:25:57.600 --> 0:25:59.400 oh my gosh, what I deserve and what I don't. 0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:02.240 It's almost like instead of saying like a forgiveness. It's 0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:03.879 like it's a saying I forgive you. It's almost like 0:26:03.920 --> 0:26:06.920 thank you, thank you. Oh gosh, yeah, thank you. And 0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:09.600 that's also something I talk about in the book. It's 0:26:09.600 --> 0:26:11.960 about the mindset. It's about flipping the switch, which is 0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:15.719 really hard to do, right, but again, like doing that 0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:19.480 work being very specific of what you're doing, so not 0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:22.880 just saying just thank you, like why why are you thankful? Yeah, 0:26:22.920 --> 0:26:25.479 I am so thankful to you because of this and 0:26:25.480 --> 0:26:28.560 this and this, and like just that being super specific 0:26:28.600 --> 0:26:32.720 with the details, because that becomes the new story. So 0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:35.520 when you're moving forward and people are asking you these 0:26:35.640 --> 0:26:40.000 questions about that, it's it's different now, you know, like 0:26:40.040 --> 0:26:42.320 you can say, yeah, that happened, but look, this is 0:26:42.359 --> 0:26:44.600 what happened, this is what came out of it, this 0:26:44.680 --> 0:26:47.399 was this is the fruits of it. I did the same, 0:26:47.440 --> 0:26:49.959 thank goodness, I went through that with the betrayal, because 0:26:50.240 --> 0:26:53.600 what was even harder was the tragedy and loss we 0:26:53.720 --> 0:26:57.399 experienced in our family when we lost both my father 0:26:57.480 --> 0:27:01.120 in law and my brother in law and horrific situation. 0:27:01.240 --> 0:27:02.919 But it was that as well. I mean, yeah, we 0:27:02.920 --> 0:27:06.240 sat in that despair for a long time and then 0:27:06.640 --> 0:27:10.320 we had to flip it and think about, you know, 0:27:10.600 --> 0:27:14.679 life being so short, leaving living really truly in the moment, 0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:17.280 and what did we really want our life to look 0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:20.480 like moving forward? Like we have one life, like make 0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:23.560 it a masterpiece, like you got one shot at this game, right, 0:27:23.960 --> 0:27:26.720 So all like that, there's so much of that in 0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:30.080 the book, you know, using my own examples and trying 0:27:30.080 --> 0:27:33.240 to help people with their own roadmap to their reshape, 0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:35.760 but just kind of giving my perspective because the fact 0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:37.639 that I got through those things on the other side, 0:27:37.720 --> 0:27:40.240 honestly and the way I did, I feel like it's 0:27:40.240 --> 0:27:43.760 almost like miraculous. All yea, I have a question for you, 0:27:43.880 --> 0:27:46.560 so I know I read that you I kind of 0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:48.520 want you to walk us through like the timeline of 0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:55.440 like there's there's this loss of trust right in the cheating, 0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:58.399 and then there's the loss of your sweet father in 0:27:58.480 --> 0:28:02.639 law and brother in law. At what point is that 0:28:02.960 --> 0:28:05.320 does it start to take the physical toll? Because that 0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:07.600 part is really fascinating to me. I want to know 0:28:07.680 --> 0:28:10.160 like even though and I have felt this a bit 0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:12.359 in my own journey, like you can handle it mentally 0:28:12.400 --> 0:28:14.480 and you can find the faith in all the things 0:28:14.480 --> 0:28:16.920 but your body eventually does keep the score a little. 0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:19.760 So were those like the hair loss, the not sleeping? 0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:23.080 Was that all? Do you think effects of your body 0:28:23.160 --> 0:28:27.320 keeping score? Is that how you and when that happens? 0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:30.520 This is loaded, But I'm like fascinated because I love 0:28:30.560 --> 0:28:33.760 that you were like, I'm taking charge and figuring it 0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:35.520 out because a lot of women kind of like fall 0:28:35.560 --> 0:28:37.840 into this like oh, you know, and they're fixing, they're 0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:40.760 band aiding these little things and not like getting to 0:28:40.800 --> 0:28:45.160 the heart and like really you know, reshaping and reconstructing. 0:28:46.120 --> 0:28:47.920 I do think, you know, it's funny you says, I 0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:49.800 never really thought about it like that, Like what does 0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:53.760 the body still actually hold on from the traumas? Right? 0:28:53.800 --> 0:28:56.920 You can do as much like emotional healing, but yeah, 0:28:56.960 --> 0:29:01.960 the body, you know, living, reathing, this cellular level, it 0:29:02.080 --> 0:29:03.880 takes you know, you take it all in. So yeah, 0:29:03.920 --> 0:29:07.360 I'm sure some of that for sure was an effect 0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:11.440 of what I went through. Um, but I do think 0:29:11.440 --> 0:29:13.240 a lot of it had to do with like my 0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:16.040 girlfriend's like, yeah, we're just getting older. That's what happens 0:29:16.080 --> 0:29:19.640 when we age. The aging definitely is like one thing. 0:29:20.480 --> 0:29:24.320 But for me, what was exciting about that part the 0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:27.400 physical part again was that I was able to dig 0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:30.360 in and get to the other side of it, like healthier, 0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:34.760 more energized, growing my hair back, more sex drive, you know, 0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:37.240 like better digect like really get to the other side 0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:38.760 of it. And I'm going to be fifty in like 0:29:38.800 --> 0:29:40.600 a few months. I feel better. I feel like I 0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:43.920 look better now than I did in my thirties, honestly, 0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:50.440 Cart And I don't want a car whatever Europe too, 0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:53.480 And I don't want you to, like I want people 0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:55.120 to buy this book because I just think like the 0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:57.120 kind of human you are, like you have a special 0:29:57.160 --> 0:29:59.360 like light about you. You're I like my husband, and 0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:02.840 I would call you a shiny one. And so I 0:30:02.920 --> 0:30:06.160 really do like I'm excited to read. I just want 0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:08.719 you to, like Cliff note, like if someone's listening right 0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:10.120 now and they're like, okay, but where do I even 0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:12.880 start first add to Cart the reshape your life because 0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:16.160 you're magical. But is it like blood work, Like what 0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:19.280 did you like, where did you even begin that little 0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:20.920 part of the journey. And again, just cliff Note it 0:30:20.960 --> 0:30:24.480 so that we're still all just the part for the healthy, 0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:27.920 identify them in different areas. Yes, please let me just 0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:30.840 say for it for whoever is listening. The way, the 0:30:30.880 --> 0:30:33.680 best way I'm the best way I could describe it. 0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:36.520 The way I felt at that time was I felt off, 0:30:36.800 --> 0:30:38.520 but I did not feel sick enough to go to 0:30:38.560 --> 0:30:40.880 the doctor. If that made any sense, makes you know, 0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:43.479 much sense. And I was in a high pressure situe. 0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:45.600 It only showed up really because I was on a 0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:48.320 live television show on Fox, you know, doing my day 0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:50.400 to day, my mom thing, you know, taking the kids 0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:53.160 to school, grocery shopping, cookie. It wouldn't have showed up 0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:55.120 the way it did. It's only because I was on 0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:57.360 live television. And when I got off of that show, 0:30:57.440 --> 0:30:59.040 I felt like I was in a boxing match with 0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:02.120 Mike Tyson and I was exhausted, and I would climb 0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:05.000 in bed and eat Cheetos and you know, brownie brittle, 0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:07.440 and you know, I was just I felt like I 0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:09.240 was living half a life, and I just I was 0:31:09.760 --> 0:31:13.120 not going down like that. So I would absolutely say 0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:15.560 that the blood panel is your baseline. You've got to 0:31:15.600 --> 0:31:18.400 know where you are, you know. And I just had 0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:21.840 doctor Amy Killen. If you don't follow her, you should, 0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:26.000 because she's fabulous. She really digs into hormones and health 0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:29.720 integrative medicine in a really cool way all the things 0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:32.120 that I believe in that help to me. She really 0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:34.160 presents it in such a cool way for women to 0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:38.840 kind of grasp so really that that blood blood work 0:31:38.920 --> 0:31:41.920 will it's going to show you exactly what's happening, because 0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:44.840 part of you feels crazy, like like am I Like 0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:46.760 you know they say our pms. You know, you hear 0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:49.520 that story for years and years, like men don't really 0:31:49.560 --> 0:31:52.080 believe it, like it's a thing. But when you see 0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:54.840 that blood work, you're just like, Okay, oh my gosh, 0:31:54.880 --> 0:31:56.880 this is exactly why I'm feeling like this. I am 0:31:56.920 --> 0:32:01.600 completely deleted in this area. My testosterone is like totally plummeted. 0:32:01.960 --> 0:32:04.600 I'm you know, you just see it all and then 0:32:04.640 --> 0:32:09.040 you could start supplementing specifically, you know, based on what 0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:12.240 those numbers are and not just buying the random things 0:32:12.240 --> 0:32:13.960 off the counter, and when you go to hope, Foo's like, 0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:16.239 oh yeah, that sounds great, I need that or I 0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:18.080 need that, and then you take them for a second 0:32:18.120 --> 0:32:20.200 and then you know you're done because you have no 0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:23.840 idea why you're taking it. Well, the consensus, the consistency 0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:26.160 always matters to me, you know, like but I do 0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:28.040 think you're right. We also live in a society where 0:32:28.040 --> 0:32:31.000 we're inundated with like by this, by that, this will 0:32:31.040 --> 0:32:33.000 make you feel this way, and it's like we never 0:32:33.400 --> 0:32:35.160 I just feel like we've been given this, like really, 0:32:35.240 --> 0:32:38.520 God gifted beautiful intuition to kind of like know ourselves 0:32:39.200 --> 0:32:41.719 and know our children in that same way, you know, 0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:44.240 like you it's that gift. And I think everything gets 0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:46.600 so noisy we don't listen to it sometimes. So I'm 0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:49.400 really inspired at the way that you were like, hang 0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:51.520 on a second, like let me get silent with myself 0:32:51.520 --> 0:32:54.600 and my body. Yeah, I know that this this cheetah 0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:57.400 brownie building and I am pregnant, so that did appeal 0:32:57.440 --> 0:33:01.080 to me. I'm not gonna lie. I feel you hang 0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:03.920 on a second. That brownie brittle and bad piece really 0:33:04.000 --> 0:33:07.520 hit home. But I think it's so often we start 0:33:07.560 --> 0:33:09.959 to settle because that is what we hear, you know, like, oh, 0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:12.040 it must be aging, you know, Like I'm forty one, 0:33:12.120 --> 0:33:14.240 and so I'm like, oh, of course I'm tired. But 0:33:14.320 --> 0:33:18.040 I don't necessarily want to be tired either, you know. Yeah, 0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:20.400 why I think it's important to go and pinpoint it, 0:33:20.560 --> 0:33:21.840 you know, I mean I'm in the same kind of 0:33:21.840 --> 0:33:23.960 boat where I'm like, I'm just tired all the time, 0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:26.200 you know, And it's like, but I'm taking this and 0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:28.280 I'm taking that, but I don't really know what I need. 0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:31.320 So like actually pinpointing it is so and you even 0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:33.360 tried what depression pills and you're like it wasn't that. 0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:35.440 Like I'm still like my iron is low. I take 0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:37.880 those bills, but I'm like, I'm still tired. But it's like, oh, 0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:39.520 but I'm a mom of three and I'm running from 0:33:39.560 --> 0:33:41.520 here to here to hear. But it's like, do I 0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:43.680 have to be this tired? You know? So literally I'm 0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:45.920 listening to you and I'm like putting it on the 0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:48.480 blood panel on the calendar. I also think it's what 0:33:48.880 --> 0:33:52.440 we eat too, right, Yeah, absolutely, I feel so much 0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:54.640 better when I have a cleaner diet or when i'm 0:33:54.720 --> 0:33:56.920 you know, not drinking wine every night. You know. My 0:33:57.000 --> 0:33:59.600 thing is is like I've been eating cleaner and I'm 0:33:59.600 --> 0:34:02.560 more tired. Maybe your body is like what you're doing, 0:34:03.360 --> 0:34:06.320 I'm like, why, actually you're depleted it. Maybe you're going 0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:08.160 to see it all in your blood panel. And what 0:34:08.239 --> 0:34:10.560 I don't want to do ever, is to overwhelm women. 0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:13.520 You know, I think the book is really presents like 0:34:13.560 --> 0:34:15.359 the basics, like kind of like at the I mean, 0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:18.080 I'm like now into the longevity and the biohacking and 0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:22.520 like the stem cells, and that's that's like the next book. 0:34:22.840 --> 0:34:26.320 But I really wanted to meet women at the beginning 0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:30.200 of their journey. So it's the simple, simple things that 0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:32.560 you do. It's the things you those little things you 0:34:32.600 --> 0:34:36.040 do every single day that really make the biggest difference. Right, 0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:38.759 So let's get the blood panel done. Let's put some 0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:43.200 very specific practices in throughout your day that you could 0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:45.720 tap into that's going to set you up for success. 0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:48.680 Like I talk about like a morning routine, like just 0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:51.520 something easy, so easy that you're going to do in 0:34:51.560 --> 0:34:54.839 the morning that's gonna make you feel grounded, like you 0:34:54.920 --> 0:34:58.040 have control of your day, so you're not like feel 0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:00.840 feeling like you were hit by the mactruck life. You know, 0:35:00.920 --> 0:35:04.400 as soon as you open your eyes and you're deflecting, deflecting, deflecting. 0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:08.759 So all of that is definitely presented. And then going 0:35:08.760 --> 0:35:13.319 back to your question about going through those things and 0:35:13.360 --> 0:35:19.680 then the emotional that toll honestly today because you know 0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:23.520 the book is set up into mind, the mind shape, 0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:30.520 heart shape, health shape, and soul shape. Right, So, because 0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:33.960 I did work in all of those areas and again 0:35:34.040 --> 0:35:39.240 went through those crazy, insane traumas, I don't I feel 0:35:39.280 --> 0:35:44.040 so strong, like as a human being, like as a woman, 0:35:44.320 --> 0:35:47.759 I'm so grateful for those I feel so wise, I 0:35:47.800 --> 0:35:51.120 feel so strong, I feel so peaceful in my body, 0:35:51.239 --> 0:35:54.560 in myself. I don't feel like I need to put 0:35:54.840 --> 0:35:58.239 even material things into my life, like to fill me up. 0:35:58.800 --> 0:36:01.760 Like I just feel like as a woman, I stay 0:36:01.800 --> 0:36:05.799 in my lane. I do me. I'm uniquely me. I'm 0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:08.920 able to recognize where something comes in that just wouldn't 0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:13.720 serve me because of those things. So, because those things happen, 0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:16.359 even though yes they're but again it's a it's how 0:36:16.400 --> 0:36:18.640 we flip the switch. It's absolutely how we flip it. 0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:20.759 And it's interesting because I was having my boyfriend the 0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:23.440 other night reading something that I was that I wrote, 0:36:23.440 --> 0:36:26.920 and he looked at mean, He's like, I'm so sorry 0:36:26.920 --> 0:36:28.239 that you went through all this, and I was like, no, 0:36:28.280 --> 0:36:30.600 I'm like that. So I was like, I'm so happy 0:36:30.719 --> 0:36:31.920 that I went through all of it, and it was 0:36:31.960 --> 0:36:35.120 it was so hard to see and relive at certain points, 0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:37.239 and you know, obviously Press loves to bring up things 0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:39.120 and I talk about it, right, So it's like there's 0:36:39.120 --> 0:36:41.399 a piece of that too where I'm trying to help 0:36:41.480 --> 0:36:45.279 with with you know, my experiences. Having said all that, 0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:48.600 it's like I feel and now I know. There's so 0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:51.400 many things I know now because of the stuff that 0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:53.520 I went through. So it's like it and being able 0:36:53.560 --> 0:36:55.239 to be like, no, I'm so thankful and like or 0:36:55.280 --> 0:36:57.200 what did I learn in this? And like how have 0:36:57.239 --> 0:37:00.359 I grown in this? Like I'm better for it, which 0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:02.640 I never thought I would, Like I would have loved 0:37:02.680 --> 0:37:04.640 to have not gone through it, but I'm so much 0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:08.640 better on the other side because of it. That's the beauty. Yeah, 0:37:08.680 --> 0:37:11.640 that's the beauty. Is it hard? Because I think about 0:37:11.680 --> 0:37:14.000 that and like the faith aspect and listening to what 0:37:14.040 --> 0:37:17.319 you were saying earlier, you know, to me, I am 0:37:17.400 --> 0:37:19.319 one that has always felt like, you know, things happen 0:37:19.360 --> 0:37:21.680 for a reason, God has a plan all those things. 0:37:21.800 --> 0:37:24.200 I know. That's got to be really hard in those 0:37:24.320 --> 0:37:27.320 really hard moments. Like I mean, obviously I've never lost 0:37:27.320 --> 0:37:30.279 someone in a tragic way and you know, or been 0:37:30.360 --> 0:37:32.080 cheated on or all of that. But is it hard 0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:34.520 to hear that in that moment for both of you, 0:37:34.760 --> 0:37:37.560 Like when you're going through it like this happens for 0:37:37.600 --> 0:37:40.560 a reason God, but but then you also believe that 0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:42.719 on the other side of it, obviously, But it's just 0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:44.799 like hearing y'all talk about it, that's got to be 0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:49.120 so hard to hear in that moment. I would say, yes, 0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:54.160 I mean more so with the tragedy yause my father 0:37:54.200 --> 0:37:58.680 in law was the most I mean beautiful human being 0:37:58.680 --> 0:38:03.120 you've ever met. I honestly thought when they took them 0:38:03.440 --> 0:38:06.279 that they would give him back because they just would 0:38:06.280 --> 0:38:11.040 fall in love with him. So that was really hard 0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:14.399 to wrap your head around, Like losing two people one 0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:17.160 is hard enough, but two at the same time in 0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:20.080 such a horrible way. And we were really both my 0:38:20.160 --> 0:38:22.360 husband and I we were going through the motions like 0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:24.000 with our faith. I mean, yes, we were still going 0:38:24.040 --> 0:38:26.399 to church on Sunday because we had our kids, but 0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:28.640 we were really angry with God, like we were just 0:38:28.680 --> 0:38:30.440 like why would you do this? Like you took a 0:38:30.480 --> 0:38:34.520 good one, like why would you do that? And it 0:38:34.600 --> 0:38:37.480 went We went through a lot of that's when we 0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:43.920 really started like a prayer and meditation practice and you know, 0:38:44.080 --> 0:38:47.279 spiritual advisors, a lot of reading, you know, messages come 0:38:47.320 --> 0:38:50.279 to you like at different times. And I'm Catholic, and 0:38:50.640 --> 0:38:53.279 the funny thing is I was hosting a Catholic conference 0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:56.640 and you know, my husband's in the room because he's 0:38:56.640 --> 0:38:58.040 still angry. He's like, I didn't even want to go 0:38:58.120 --> 0:39:00.399 down there right now. I mean it was still from 0:39:00.520 --> 0:39:03.319 when everything had happened. And there was a priest that 0:39:03.360 --> 0:39:06.040 got up there and he was talking about Mary and 0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:08.680 like there's a book called thirty three Days to Morning Glory. 0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:11.080 And I never really had a devotion to Mary. I 0:39:11.080 --> 0:39:14.080 mean I also have friends that are Christians and you 0:39:14.120 --> 0:39:15.880 know just kind of like, let's go straight to the 0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:17.960 big Guy, and you know, we don't really need to 0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:20.359 go to Mary so much. So I'm hearing this and 0:39:20.440 --> 0:39:23.719 I'm just like we were so again like angry with 0:39:23.760 --> 0:39:27.120 God and the relationship was not there, and I don't know, 0:39:27.160 --> 0:39:28.759 it was like a light bulb went off to me 0:39:28.840 --> 0:39:32.080 in that moment and I just thought, wait, maybe Mary 0:39:32.800 --> 0:39:34.880 is the answer for us. It was just it was 0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:37.839 like just delivered ran to my husband. I said, you've 0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:40.160 got to meet this priest. We got we have to 0:39:40.200 --> 0:39:43.920 like dig into this I introduced them and we started 0:39:43.920 --> 0:39:47.080 doing this devotion, the thirty three Days to Morning Glory, 0:39:47.280 --> 0:39:51.840 and it was Mary who brought us back into union 0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:56.000 with her son with Jesus, which is crazy for me 0:39:56.040 --> 0:39:58.680 to say, because again, like there was no like you know, 0:39:58.840 --> 0:40:01.439 I loved I mean, you know Mary, mother of God. Yes, 0:40:02.520 --> 0:40:05.719 but it's just crazy how things kind of work, you know. 0:40:06.000 --> 0:40:09.960 That is beautiful yet that Yeah, peace has always been 0:40:09.960 --> 0:40:11.880 so fascinating to me when you go through such a 0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:16.080 tragedy and have this faith aspect you know how, I 0:40:16.080 --> 0:40:18.640 don't know, it's just a fascinating process, you know what 0:40:18.840 --> 0:40:21.520 that looks. It's interesting that Mary is the connection though, 0:40:21.520 --> 0:40:24.680 because Mary knows tragedy better than any of us, right, 0:40:25.040 --> 0:40:30.640 I mean Mary lost her only son. Yeah, and so 0:40:30.760 --> 0:40:33.160 for you to identify with that is just like that 0:40:33.280 --> 0:40:35.879 is just not coincidental to me at all. No, it's not. 0:40:36.080 --> 0:40:40.120 That is like the most gifted, like wonderful in a 0:40:40.280 --> 0:40:46.480 tragic public way, she lost her son. Yeah, that's beautiful. Yeah, um, 0:40:46.920 --> 0:40:48.960 I mean thank you for letting me share that with 0:40:49.000 --> 0:40:51.799 you guys, because I don't share a lot about you know, 0:40:51.880 --> 0:40:54.719 my faith. Your faith is very personal and never know 0:40:54.920 --> 0:40:57.080 this world like how people take it. But that's how 0:40:57.120 --> 0:40:59.560 I got through these things. I mean truly, that's the 0:40:59.560 --> 0:41:02.200 place and I had to go to pull me through. Um, 0:41:02.360 --> 0:41:04.239 definitely had nothing to do with myself. It was a 0:41:04.239 --> 0:41:08.160 lot of the divine right, UM, thank you for sure, 0:41:08.160 --> 0:41:11.160 thank you, Yeah, thank you. We we we appreciate that 0:41:11.200 --> 0:41:14.520 because we're you know, we're all on our Christian journey 0:41:14.560 --> 0:41:17.520 and you know it's um sometimes you know, it's it's 0:41:17.560 --> 0:41:22.520 hard to I've I'm probably the newest on that journey. Um, 0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:25.680 just like now understanding like the wise of you know, 0:41:25.840 --> 0:41:28.520 going through things like well, why did that happen? Where 0:41:28.600 --> 0:41:30.040 was God in this? I always ask where is God? 0:41:30.080 --> 0:41:31.840 Where is God in this? Like I don't understand? And 0:41:31.840 --> 0:41:34.120 then it's it's, um, he shows up and he shows 0:41:34.120 --> 0:41:36.319 you later. Sometimes it's not in the moment that you need, 0:41:36.480 --> 0:41:38.319 you know, And I think that's where the peace comes, 0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:40.759 where it's like cap under your question. It's like in 0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:45.200 that moment, it's it's so surrender. Yeah, have you thought 0:41:45.200 --> 0:41:47.879 about that at all? Like, Uh, it's something we've been 0:41:47.880 --> 0:41:52.840 practicing a lot lately and it's really helped us because again, 0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:54.839 like we all want to control, right, Like you feel 0:41:54.880 --> 0:41:56.840 like if you let go being a parent, being a 0:41:56.920 --> 0:42:00.200 mom and you know you're running a household, you else, 0:42:00.200 --> 0:42:01.840 you're hugged like you have so much going on and 0:42:01.880 --> 0:42:04.120 if you let go, then it's all going to fall 0:42:04.160 --> 0:42:07.839 to you know what. Um, but we've had to learn, 0:42:07.920 --> 0:42:10.040 I mean, and also being in this business that we're in, 0:42:10.480 --> 0:42:12.839 it's nothing as promised. You may be working today, you're 0:42:12.880 --> 0:42:15.560 not working tomorrow when job comes in and it goes out, 0:42:15.719 --> 0:42:18.120 you know, so there's a lot of so do you 0:42:18.120 --> 0:42:20.359 feel like you're about to fall off the edge? And 0:42:20.480 --> 0:42:24.359 so we uh, we read we read The Surrender Experiment 0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:28.480 by Michael Singer and just the idea of surrender was 0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:31.920 very interesting to me because again type A trying to 0:42:31.920 --> 0:42:35.520 control everything at all times, and I feel like surrender 0:42:35.640 --> 0:42:39.920 kind of goes hand in hand with faith, right. So um, 0:42:40.880 --> 0:42:45.319 it's definitely a practice, right, but something that maybe you know, 0:42:45.480 --> 0:42:47.520 just to ponder and to think about. That was one 0:42:47.520 --> 0:42:50.799 of my first books I read after my divorced. Yeah, 0:42:50.880 --> 0:42:52.359 that was one of my first books. It's a great book. 0:42:52.560 --> 0:42:54.279 Have you read it. It's a great it's really good one. 0:42:55.600 --> 0:42:58.239 It's amazing. But your book, though, I'm so excited I 0:42:58.440 --> 0:43:02.880 am getting through, but back to you in your book, 0:43:02.960 --> 0:43:07.000 that is. But no, um, I just can I just 0:43:07.040 --> 0:43:09.360 ask one question around that. So it's been eight years 0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:14.040 from that tragedy. M yeah, how are How are you 0:43:14.080 --> 0:43:18.719 in the family doing? You know, we are doing amazing. 0:43:18.960 --> 0:43:22.640 My brother, let's see, my brother in law's two children 0:43:24.160 --> 0:43:26.840 are thriving. I mean one is in the top school 0:43:26.880 --> 0:43:29.880 in Germany, the other one or they're both in school 0:43:29.920 --> 0:43:33.560 in Germany. Um, they're doing so well. My mother in law, 0:43:34.760 --> 0:43:38.719 you know, she her dream was always too. She loves 0:43:38.719 --> 0:43:40.759 the beach, she loves the ocean they live in. She 0:43:40.840 --> 0:43:43.920 lives in Tampico in Mexico, and we were able to 0:43:43.960 --> 0:43:46.280 get her a little place in front of the ocean 0:43:46.320 --> 0:43:49.560 so she could watch the sunset every single day. And 0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:52.600 so she's doing well. Obviously, it's harder for her because 0:43:52.600 --> 0:43:55.520 she lost both her husband and her her firstborn at 0:43:55.560 --> 0:43:58.600 the same time. My husband doesn't talk about it as 0:43:58.680 --> 0:44:01.839 much as he you know, you ste I think that 0:44:04.680 --> 0:44:07.680 we are doing really, really well, and I think that 0:44:07.719 --> 0:44:11.080 we feel their presence now more than ever. I feel 0:44:11.120 --> 0:44:14.640 like we get signed all the time, and they are 0:44:15.800 --> 0:44:20.000 We definitely change the way we live, for sure. We 0:44:20.040 --> 0:44:24.000 do live very much in the moment, like in the moment, 0:44:24.120 --> 0:44:29.560 being present, knowing that tomorrow is definitely not promised. We 0:44:29.600 --> 0:44:32.680 make decisions differently as a family. My husband loves to surf, 0:44:32.680 --> 0:44:35.640 always dreamed of having like a little place on the beach, 0:44:36.480 --> 0:44:38.759 but we live in southern California, Like there's no way 0:44:38.760 --> 0:44:41.960 we could afford that, And we're renting a house like 0:44:42.040 --> 0:44:44.399 in a beautiful place in Lochayan, and we really need 0:44:44.400 --> 0:44:47.960 to buy a place, and we decided to build a 0:44:47.960 --> 0:44:51.640 beach house like in Mexico, like driving distance, which is nuts, 0:44:51.640 --> 0:44:54.480 so crazy, But going back to the thing like life 0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:57.440 is short, right, like create what you what you so 0:44:57.560 --> 0:45:00.239 desire and what you love. And in the book I 0:45:00.239 --> 0:45:03.400 also talk a little bit about and as as adults, 0:45:03.480 --> 0:45:05.759 as women, you know, do the things that set your 0:45:05.760 --> 0:45:09.919 soul on fire. I feel like son, so often as 0:45:09.920 --> 0:45:12.960 we get older, we stopped doing those things that like 0:45:13.560 --> 0:45:17.240 like that fire, you know, because again, life, the responsibilities, 0:45:17.280 --> 0:45:20.480 all of it. So just to remember those things and 0:45:20.560 --> 0:45:22.759 make sure you do that, you know, daily. I just 0:45:22.800 --> 0:45:25.920 saw Oprah and Gail, who I love. I know all 0:45:25.960 --> 0:45:29.040 we all love some Oprah right They're in Jordan right now, 0:45:29.320 --> 0:45:32.200 you know, covering themselves up with mud, and writing on 0:45:32.320 --> 0:45:35.320 the camels and and that was sort of their message yesterday. 0:45:35.480 --> 0:45:38.160 It was online and just saying like don't forget to 0:45:38.200 --> 0:45:40.160 do the things you love, like again, like you have 0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:44.200 one life. I was like preached sisters, like that's absolutely true. 0:45:45.560 --> 0:45:47.839 I love it. And it's all his with all of 0:45:47.840 --> 0:45:51.239 that too, it's it's a growth opportunity hydrotherapists. She calls 0:45:51.239 --> 0:45:54.920 it AFCA. It's a fucking growth opportunity. Oh yeah. So 0:45:54.960 --> 0:45:58.000 it's like with everything, it's like look at it AFCA. 0:45:58.560 --> 0:46:00.680 So it's like it's kind of my motto AFCA. I 0:46:00.760 --> 0:46:04.920 love that. Yeah, um, Ali, thank you so much for 0:46:05.000 --> 0:46:08.320 coming on the show. I just your light. I've just everything. 0:46:08.360 --> 0:46:13.120 Thank you. I so appreciate it. I know you're just yeahiful. 0:46:13.280 --> 0:46:17.960 Thank you for just breathing and everything you have to say. 0:46:18.239 --> 0:46:21.319 I love that you took the initiative to write about 0:46:21.360 --> 0:46:23.799 all of this though, because I think the simplifying it's 0:46:23.840 --> 0:46:25.560 like the how do you eat an elephant one bite 0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:27.359 at a time? Is something I always say. But it's like, 0:46:28.000 --> 0:46:29.480 you know, a lot of us just feel lost in 0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:32.640 order to start, so getting like a roadmap, especially fellow 0:46:32.640 --> 0:46:35.279 a types, here is our thanks for sharing at our, 0:46:35.320 --> 0:46:38.960 A type meeting that matters, just the simplicity and like 0:46:39.040 --> 0:46:41.520 the realness and just from the heart piece of it. 0:46:41.680 --> 0:46:44.200 So everyone go get Ali Lander's book, Reshape your life, 0:46:44.200 --> 0:46:48.160 don't settle because you are worth it. Thanks girl, thank 0:46:48.200 --> 0:46:48.799 you so much.