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Speaker 1: Wine Down with Janet Kramer and I Heart Radio Podcast. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so this week's wind Down, we have Ali Landry coming on.

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Speaker 1: You guys heard her story, by the way, I haven't, No,

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Speaker 1: I've heard pieces of her story. She's a former Miss USA.

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Speaker 1: She's stunning too. She's beautiful, but she's like an on

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Speaker 1: a mission to do good works for the world too,

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Speaker 1: which I love, world peace, world peace. She's like she

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Speaker 1: had um she dated Mario Lopez, right, yeah, they were engaged.

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Speaker 1: Oh uh huh okay, and no Ac Slater forever got

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Speaker 1: it noted? So she did not marry Mario. No, why

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Speaker 1: didn't they get married? Uh? Yeah, we know it's out there. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's hard because it's like he's a friend, got it,

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Speaker 1: got it out in okay? You know. But I think,

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Speaker 1: like we had said in the last episode, I think

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Speaker 1: people can change. I don't think once a cheat are

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Speaker 1: always a cheater. Got okay, and there you have it,

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Speaker 1: and there we have it. I think, you know, I

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Speaker 1: think it's so hard too. I don't know. I can't

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Speaker 1: remember when they got engaged, but I can't imagine being

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Speaker 1: so famous too and just having everything at your fingertips.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean yeah, I mean that's

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Speaker 1: like it's Temptation Island, right, Yeah, yeah, for sure. He's

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Speaker 1: so well known well and you know any Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean you look at remember that the Hugh Grant and

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Speaker 1: who was that Hugh Grant and Elizabeth what is her name?

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Speaker 1: I mean supermodel? Yes, yeah, I know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: He didn't he have an affair on her too when

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Speaker 1: they were married. Yeah, So I feel like it's one

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Speaker 1: of those things where, I mean, that's why always hate,

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Speaker 1: like how could they get cheated on? I'm like, anybody

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Speaker 1: can get cheated It's anybody, anybody. But I do love

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Speaker 1: what she's doing. But no her Alilander's father in law

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Speaker 1: found dead in Mexico sixteen days after kidnapping with her. So,

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Speaker 1: the father in law and brother in law we're found

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Speaker 1: dead in Mexico roughly two weeks after after they were kidnapped.

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Speaker 1: I know they both sustained traumatic brain injuries and had

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Speaker 1: been dead for several days when they were discovered in

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Speaker 1: the rural area. But I mean I can't even I mean,

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Speaker 1: can you even imagine no, no, out of their home.

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Speaker 1: That's so scary because I know when they say that, um,

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Speaker 1: like they say like don't go outside of the resorts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's like you know, yeah, I wouldn't. I don't

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Speaker 1: really like to deal like to got other resorts in Mexico, no, ma'am,

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Speaker 1: because I'm not when I go to Mexico or I

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Speaker 1: know those places, I'm like, I like the resort and

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying like Mexico is bad, like Cabo. I

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Speaker 1: mean there's that one place in Cabo we like to

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Speaker 1: go that like Flora something. But oh, I just don't

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Speaker 1: really honestly leave resorts anywhere. Like I'm kind of like, ah,

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Speaker 1: I'm good right here, just cozy and cozy and where

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Speaker 1: we're at like if. But I just think in that

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Speaker 1: area like the Mexico And again, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: like talk bad about Mexico. I also just have heard

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Speaker 1: how I'm going to Jamaica in May. I think I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna stay on there. I did, but I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't even like when Sarah and I went to

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Speaker 1: the Caribbeans, I just get scared leaving the resort for

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Speaker 1: some reason, even though it's like they say it's super safe.

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Speaker 1: You guys, know who are you talking to? So she

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Speaker 1: had great loss. She loses a father in law and

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Speaker 1: so was the brother in law like around the same

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Speaker 1: time that she kind of started. Well, that's my question

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Speaker 1: for her actually without triggering, But I have a couple

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Speaker 1: of questions about that, because I'm really fascinated. She's created

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Speaker 1: this whole brand around reshaping your Life, and I'm it

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Speaker 1: seems pretty women focused from what I can understand. So

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Speaker 1: I'm just really fascinated to know. I have a couple

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Speaker 1: of questions actually, But her book is called Reshape your Life,

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Speaker 1: Don't settle because you are worth it. So we'll take

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Speaker 1: a break and then we'll get her on before we

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Speaker 1: get Ali on the what's up with the therapy? Not trusting?

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Speaker 1: So not only do I just not trust men, but

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Speaker 1: I don't trust a lot of people. Yep, we got

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Speaker 1: them and um, yesterday we have like a deep dive

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Speaker 1: I wasn't super nurtured to trust myself because reality was

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Speaker 1: always questioned, my reality versus the family's reality. And so

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Speaker 1: still will second guess myself. Interesting why because from very

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Speaker 1: early on what I knew to be true wasn't What

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Speaker 1: in like reality versus reality versus reality. I bet i'd

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Speaker 1: have a little bit of that too if I got

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Speaker 1: dug with like other family members. Yeah, And it was

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Speaker 1: really sweet because Amy's like, I really want to dig

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Speaker 1: you know, it's weird when you get to this kind

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Speaker 1: dig and like untangle. Sure, and I'm at that place.

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Speaker 1: So I had a lot of people reach out to

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Speaker 1: me about us, talking about like our age and like

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Speaker 1: when we argue or have things in these moments, how

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Speaker 1: we go back to our childhood age or whatever. I

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Speaker 1: just so many people reach out to me about that,

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Speaker 1: and it's like I'm still trying to figure out my

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Speaker 1: age though, figure out to do it at therapy, yeah,

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Speaker 1: because I just go em DR. Most likely that's when

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Speaker 1: like it'll pinpoint out that's not like an online quiz,

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Speaker 1: you know, like any pagram. Well, I can remember different

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Speaker 1: specific thing that we're so like, you know, memorable obviously,

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Speaker 1: but I'm like, I don't know. Well, it's interesting because

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Speaker 1: I'm like a very assertive person, but I also just

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Speaker 1: want everyone to feel like loved on, and so I'm

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Speaker 1: very like we had a situation at a friend dinner

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Speaker 1: because I don't was that me well times with Anna,

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Speaker 1: good for you bridging that gap. But you know, like

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Speaker 1: that is and some of that is great, Like Amy

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Speaker 1: is like, some of that is just that's a natural,

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Speaker 1: some situations where it's okay to just like let it

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Speaker 1: you have a hard time not and that Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: well it has been since I was any biddie. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: so that is interesting. That leads me to something else.

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Speaker 1: Where with that do you feel like you because you're

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Speaker 1: so you're bridging the gap right between other people's feelings.

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Speaker 1: So then when I had a situation where I I

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Speaker 1: it's like I like, I then insert to to just

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Speaker 1: how do I say this, um without like telling the

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Speaker 1: exact story. I don't know. I tried to and then

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Speaker 1: you busted me. Well, no, this is a different story.

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Speaker 1: But this is like I I never want anyone, Okay,

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Speaker 1: so um, maybe this is helpful. But one thing I

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Speaker 1: love is that you'll nip things like you won't. You're

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Speaker 1: not like a You're not a mean girl like we

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Speaker 1: get in a situation you'll grab somebody and pull. No, no,

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Speaker 1: you're not anymore. No. Well, there was times where you'd

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Speaker 1: be like I'll stand in my corner, she can stand

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Speaker 1: in hers. But I've seen you specifically just like pull

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Speaker 1: night though, Well you didn't need to say. That's where

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Speaker 1: I normally would go because I want to feel like

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Speaker 1: I have to say sorry for something that I didn't do.

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Speaker 1: You didn't need to say sorry, but I would in

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Speaker 1: the past to then have the situation not be awkward,

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Speaker 1: because it was awkward, right, But I wanted her to

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Speaker 1: maybe she should have him been like I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 1: This was just a little like stressful and like whatever,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my god, girl, no worries, it

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Speaker 1: actually didn't need to, and I was like proud of

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Speaker 1: Like this doesn't need to be do you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean? Though, I like, you just don't want the

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Speaker 1: be my pastime, and I'm curious about your other story

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Speaker 1: though I know, well it kind of like it. It

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, why do it? Why shouldn't Why am

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Speaker 1: I putting my own uncomfortable feelings on somebody else? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: myself before assisting others. Right, oh yeah, good points. So

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Speaker 1: now I'm just like, Okay, well, I'm I'm the girl

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Speaker 1: that's texting you. Sorry you feel that way, I'm really not.

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Speaker 1: But if someone texts you I'm sorry you feel that way.

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Speaker 1: After you said I feel like these messages are quite aggressive,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry you feel that way. You're done, You're dead

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Speaker 1: to me. Hey, guys, this is where I like have

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Speaker 1: a hard time because I'm like, just pick up the

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Speaker 1: You need to hear my voice say I'm sorry. This

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Speaker 1: is not how it's so nipped. I think the text

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Speaker 1: that being said my husband used to I think I've

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Speaker 1: said this before. My husband used to come to me

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Speaker 1: after we fought, and he would say I'm sorry we fought. Yes,

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, that is not an apology. What is

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Speaker 1: that that much interesting? It would bother me, But I see,

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Speaker 1: You just wasted one that's worthless to me. Get out

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Speaker 1: of here. Hey it's communicating, but is it not real?

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Speaker 1: It's a spaceholder. It's just a little taking any accountability

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Speaker 1: or asking what can I do different? Or no, but

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Speaker 1: you can be. It should have been i'm sorry, we fought,

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Speaker 1: and right right right, there should be more to it. It

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Speaker 1: It should always sounds like an opening to me for

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Speaker 1: the kid. It's not i'm sorry, period, it's i'm sorry

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Speaker 1: we fought. Yeah, it's not a health thing to do

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Speaker 1: this better. It's one sentence. Yeah, noa I hear you

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Speaker 1: on that? Okay, Well, I'm glad we're in agreement. Okay, sorry,

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Speaker 1: we fought cat. Okay, so can you guys. I want

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Speaker 1: it's the process, and sometimes people say certain things and

423
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 1: it lands on you in a completely different way. And

424
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: it did land on me about how you know, if

425
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 1: I didn't really dig into it and understand what forgiveness was,

426
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 1: it was doing nothing for that person, Like it was

427
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:23,719
Speaker 1: really just for myself, right, So that I understood. So

428
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,640
Speaker 1: that was like okay, yeah, because then it takes away

429
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 1: the power from that person, you know, then you take

430
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 1: it back for yourself, like I want to be amazing,

431
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 1: I want to move forward with no resentment nor whatever.

432
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 1: And that's sort of how I kind of held onto

433
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 1: forgiveness moving forward. But I think because I did that

434
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 1: work in that time, a lot of work just about it,

435
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 1: like a lot a lot of a lone time. I mean,

436
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 1: you know, all of it. I look back and I

437
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 1: almost think like it was one of my greatest gifts.

438
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 1: I truly it changed me as a woman. I understood

439
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 1: my worth and that's kind of part of why that

440
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 1: title is there, like you are worthy, because if you don't,

441
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 1: another woman doesn't see it in themselves. I want to

442
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: acknowledge that, like you are worthy. I recognize my worth.

443
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 1: And I knew that moving forward, I was going to

444
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 1: do things differently and I needed to be very clear

445
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 1: about how I was going to move forward. So like

446
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 1: I wrote it down. I wrote down very very specifically

447
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,640
Speaker 1: that man, that the man that I wanted to come

448
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 1: into my life, what I needed him to look like,

449
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 1: what qualities I needed him to have. So when it

450
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: came in and it was not that, it was like whoa,

451
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 1: you know, the siren was going on. And it's also

452
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: probably easier to just be like nope, oh yeah, now

453
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 1: I don't have turned to on that right, Like so

454
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: it's just it's like clarity, right, and I'm so type

455
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: that I just don't want to make a mistake your life, right,

456
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,199
Speaker 1: So I knew I needed to figure it out. Um,

457
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 1: and you know, I have a strong faith. You know,

458
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 1: my faith is very important to me. And also it

459
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: was like kind of surrendering, like I didn't trust myself

460
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 1: a lot of that time, and I sort of leaned

461
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 1: on God and was like, look, I made a horrible mistake,

462
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: like I totally screwed up. I need you to like

463
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: put one foot in front of the other because I

464
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: don't want to make the same mistake yet, right, And

465
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: that's kind of how it. Yeah, I know. It's so

466
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 1: interesting because I'm like when when I hear you talking,

467
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: because it's like it's so easy to be like, yeah,

468
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,439
Speaker 1: I forgive you, but I'm like, I don't really. I

469
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 1: started I started peeling back layers. I'm like, do I

470
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,360
Speaker 1: really forgive him? It's almost like I feel sorry for

471
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: him because like that just meant that he was hurt. Right,

472
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: So it's like hurt people, you know, like hurt people.

473
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 1: But I also can be like but it's okay, Like

474
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: it's it's I'm sorry, and it's okay. Like at this point,

475
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: it's like it's okay now, right, because you see the gift,

476
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,439
Speaker 1: you see the sliver lining, you see that you're so

477
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: much better off. It's like, thank you for showing me,

478
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, what I deserve and what I don't.

479
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 1: It's almost like instead of saying like a forgiveness. It's

480
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 1: like it's a saying I forgive you. It's almost like

481
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. Oh gosh, yeah, thank you. And

482
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: that's also something I talk about in the book. It's

483
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: about the mindset. It's about flipping the switch, which is

484
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,719
Speaker 1: really hard to do, right, but again, like doing that

485
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: work being very specific of what you're doing, so not

486
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 1: just saying just thank you, like why why are you thankful? Yeah,

487
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,479
Speaker 1: I am so thankful to you because of this and

488
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: this and this, and like just that being super specific

489
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 1: with the details, because that becomes the new story. So

490
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: when you're moving forward and people are asking you these

491
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: questions about that, it's it's different now, you know, like

492
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: you can say, yeah, that happened, but look, this is

493
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: what happened, this is what came out of it, this

494
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 1: was this is the fruits of it. I did the same,

495
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,959
Speaker 1: thank goodness, I went through that with the betrayal, because

496
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: what was even harder was the tragedy and loss we

497
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 1: experienced in our family when we lost both my father

498
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 1: in law and my brother in law and horrific situation.

499
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 1: But it was that as well. I mean, yeah, we

500
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: sat in that despair for a long time and then

501
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: we had to flip it and think about, you know,

502
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 1: life being so short, leaving living really truly in the moment,

503
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: and what did we really want our life to look

504
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: like moving forward? Like we have one life, like make

505
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: it a masterpiece, like you got one shot at this game, right,

506
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: So all like that, there's so much of that in

507
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: the book, you know, using my own examples and trying

508
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: to help people with their own roadmap to their reshape,

509
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: but just kind of giving my perspective because the fact

510
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: that I got through those things on the other side,

511
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: honestly and the way I did, I feel like it's

512
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: almost like miraculous. All yea, I have a question for you,

513
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: so I know I read that you I kind of

514
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: want you to walk us through like the timeline of

515
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: like there's there's this loss of trust right in the cheating,

516
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 1: and then there's the loss of your sweet father in

517
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 1: law and brother in law. At what point is that

518
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: does it start to take the physical toll? Because that

519
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: part is really fascinating to me. I want to know

520
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 1: like even though and I have felt this a bit

521
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: in my own journey, like you can handle it mentally

522
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: and you can find the faith in all the things

523
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: but your body eventually does keep the score a little.

524
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: So were those like the hair loss, the not sleeping?

525
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: Was that all? Do you think effects of your body

526
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: keeping score? Is that how you and when that happens?

527
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: This is loaded, But I'm like fascinated because I love

528
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: that you were like, I'm taking charge and figuring it

529
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: out because a lot of women kind of like fall

530
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: into this like oh, you know, and they're fixing, they're

531
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: band aiding these little things and not like getting to

532
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: the heart and like really you know, reshaping and reconstructing.

533
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: I do think, you know, it's funny you says, I

534
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: never really thought about it like that, Like what does

535
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: the body still actually hold on from the traumas? Right?

536
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: You can do as much like emotional healing, but yeah,

537
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: the body, you know, living, reathing, this cellular level, it

538
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: takes you know, you take it all in. So yeah,

539
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: I'm sure some of that for sure was an effect

540
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: of what I went through. Um, but I do think

541
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: a lot of it had to do with like my

542
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: girlfriend's like, yeah, we're just getting older. That's what happens

543
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: when we age. The aging definitely is like one thing.

544
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: But for me, what was exciting about that part the

545
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: physical part again was that I was able to dig

546
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: in and get to the other side of it, like healthier,

547
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: more energized, growing my hair back, more sex drive, you know,

548
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: like better digect like really get to the other side

549
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: of it. And I'm going to be fifty in like

550
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: a few months. I feel better. I feel like I

551
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: look better now than I did in my thirties, honestly,

552
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: Cart And I don't want a car whatever Europe too,

553
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: And I don't want you to, like I want people

554
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: to buy this book because I just think like the

555
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: kind of human you are, like you have a special

556
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: like light about you. You're I like my husband, and

557
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: I would call you a shiny one. And so I

558
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: really do like I'm excited to read. I just want

559
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,719
Speaker 1: you to, like Cliff note, like if someone's listening right

560
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: now and they're like, okay, but where do I even

561
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: start first add to Cart the reshape your life because

562
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: you're magical. But is it like blood work, Like what

563
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: did you like, where did you even begin that little

564
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: part of the journey. And again, just cliff Note it

565
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: so that we're still all just the part for the healthy,

566
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: identify them in different areas. Yes, please let me just

567
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: say for it for whoever is listening. The way, the

568
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: best way I'm the best way I could describe it.

569
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: The way I felt at that time was I felt off,

570
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: but I did not feel sick enough to go to

571
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: the doctor. If that made any sense, makes you know,

572
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,479
Speaker 1: much sense. And I was in a high pressure situe.

573
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: It only showed up really because I was on a

574
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: live television show on Fox, you know, doing my day

575
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: to day, my mom thing, you know, taking the kids

576
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: to school, grocery shopping, cookie. It wouldn't have showed up

577
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: the way it did. It's only because I was on

578
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: live television. And when I got off of that show,

579
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: I felt like I was in a boxing match with

580
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson and I was exhausted, and I would climb

581
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: in bed and eat Cheetos and you know, brownie brittle,

582
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: and you know, I was just I felt like I

583
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: was living half a life, and I just I was

584
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: not going down like that. So I would absolutely say

585
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: that the blood panel is your baseline. You've got to

586
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: know where you are, you know. And I just had

587
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: doctor Amy Killen. If you don't follow her, you should,

588
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: because she's fabulous. She really digs into hormones and health

589
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: integrative medicine in a really cool way all the things

590
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: that I believe in that help to me. She really

591
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: presents it in such a cool way for women to

592
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: kind of grasp so really that that blood blood work

593
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: will it's going to show you exactly what's happening, because

594
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: part of you feels crazy, like like am I Like

595
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: you know they say our pms. You know, you hear

596
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: that story for years and years, like men don't really

597
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: believe it, like it's a thing. But when you see

598
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: that blood work, you're just like, Okay, oh my gosh,

599
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: this is exactly why I'm feeling like this. I am

600
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: completely deleted in this area. My testosterone is like totally plummeted.

601
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: I'm you know, you just see it all and then

602
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: you could start supplementing specifically, you know, based on what

603
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: those numbers are and not just buying the random things

604
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: off the counter, and when you go to hope, Foo's like,

605
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,239
Speaker 1: oh yeah, that sounds great, I need that or I

606
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: need that, and then you take them for a second

607
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: and then you know you're done because you have no

608
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: idea why you're taking it. Well, the consensus, the consistency

609
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: always matters to me, you know, like but I do

610
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: think you're right. We also live in a society where

611
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: we're inundated with like by this, by that, this will

612
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: make you feel this way, and it's like we never

613
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: I just feel like we've been given this, like really,

614
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: God gifted beautiful intuition to kind of like know ourselves

615
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,719
Speaker 1: and know our children in that same way, you know,

616
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: like you it's that gift. And I think everything gets

617
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: so noisy we don't listen to it sometimes. So I'm

618
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: really inspired at the way that you were like, hang

619
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: on a second, like let me get silent with myself

620
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: and my body. Yeah, I know that this this cheetah

621
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: brownie building and I am pregnant, so that did appeal

622
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: to me. I'm not gonna lie. I feel you hang

623
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: on a second. That brownie brittle and bad piece really

624
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: hit home. But I think it's so often we start

625
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,959
Speaker 1: to settle because that is what we hear, you know, like, oh,

626
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: it must be aging, you know, Like I'm forty one,

627
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: and so I'm like, oh, of course I'm tired. But

628
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily want to be tired either, you know. Yeah,

629
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: why I think it's important to go and pinpoint it,

630
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: you know, I mean I'm in the same kind of

631
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: boat where I'm like, I'm just tired all the time,

632
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: you know, And it's like, but I'm taking this and

633
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: I'm taking that, but I don't really know what I need.

634
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: So like actually pinpointing it is so and you even

635
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: tried what depression pills and you're like it wasn't that.

636
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: Like I'm still like my iron is low. I take

637
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: those bills, but I'm like, I'm still tired. But it's like, oh,

638
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: but I'm a mom of three and I'm running from

639
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: here to here to hear. But it's like, do I

640
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: have to be this tired? You know? So literally I'm

641
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: listening to you and I'm like putting it on the

642
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: blood panel on the calendar. I also think it's what

643
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: we eat too, right, Yeah, absolutely, I feel so much

644
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: better when I have a cleaner diet or when i'm

645
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: you know, not drinking wine every night. You know. My

646
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: thing is is like I've been eating cleaner and I'm

647
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: more tired. Maybe your body is like what you're doing,

648
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, why, actually you're depleted it. Maybe you're going

649
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: to see it all in your blood panel. And what

650
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to do ever, is to overwhelm women.

651
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: You know, I think the book is really presents like

652
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 1: the basics, like kind of like at the I mean,

653
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: I'm like now into the longevity and the biohacking and

654
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: like the stem cells, and that's that's like the next book.

655
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 1: But I really wanted to meet women at the beginning

656
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: of their journey. So it's the simple, simple things that

657
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: you do. It's the things you those little things you

658
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: do every single day that really make the biggest difference. Right,

659
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: So let's get the blood panel done. Let's put some

660
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: very specific practices in throughout your day that you could

661
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,720
Speaker 1: tap into that's going to set you up for success.

662
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: Like I talk about like a morning routine, like just

663
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: something easy, so easy that you're going to do in

664
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 1: the morning that's gonna make you feel grounded, like you

665
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: have control of your day, so you're not like feel

666
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 1: feeling like you were hit by the mactruck life. You know,

667
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: as soon as you open your eyes and you're deflecting, deflecting, deflecting.

668
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: So all of that is definitely presented. And then going

669
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: back to your question about going through those things and

670
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: then the emotional that toll honestly today because you know

671
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: the book is set up into mind, the mind shape,

672
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: heart shape, health shape, and soul shape. Right, So, because

673
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: I did work in all of those areas and again

674
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 1: went through those crazy, insane traumas, I don't I feel

675
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: so strong, like as a human being, like as a woman,

676
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: I'm so grateful for those I feel so wise, I

677
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: feel so strong, I feel so peaceful in my body,

678
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: in myself. I don't feel like I need to put

679
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: even material things into my life, like to fill me up.

680
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,760
Speaker 1: Like I just feel like as a woman, I stay

681
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: in my lane. I do me. I'm uniquely me. I'm

682
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: able to recognize where something comes in that just wouldn't

683
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:13,720
Speaker 1: serve me because of those things. So, because those things happen,

684
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: even though yes they're but again it's a it's how

685
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: we flip the switch. It's absolutely how we flip it.

686
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: And it's interesting because I was having my boyfriend the

687
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: other night reading something that I was that I wrote,

688
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: and he looked at mean, He's like, I'm so sorry

689
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: that you went through all this, and I was like, no,

690
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: I'm like that. So I was like, I'm so happy

691
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: that I went through all of it, and it was

692
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: it was so hard to see and relive at certain points,

693
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: and you know, obviously Press loves to bring up things

694
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: and I talk about it, right, So it's like there's

695
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 1: a piece of that too where I'm trying to help

696
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: with with you know, my experiences. Having said all that,

697
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: it's like I feel and now I know. There's so

698
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: many things I know now because of the stuff that

699
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: I went through. So it's like it and being able

700
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: to be like, no, I'm so thankful and like or

701
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: what did I learn in this? And like how have

702
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: I grown in this? Like I'm better for it, which

703
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: I never thought I would, Like I would have loved

704
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: to have not gone through it, but I'm so much

705
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: better on the other side because of it. That's the beauty. Yeah,

706
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: that's the beauty. Is it hard? Because I think about

707
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: that and like the faith aspect and listening to what

708
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 1: you were saying earlier, you know, to me, I am

709
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: one that has always felt like, you know, things happen

710
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: for a reason, God has a plan all those things.

711
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: I know. That's got to be really hard in those

712
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 1: really hard moments. Like I mean, obviously I've never lost

713
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: someone in a tragic way and you know, or been

714
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: cheated on or all of that. But is it hard

715
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: to hear that in that moment for both of you,

716
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: Like when you're going through it like this happens for

717
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: a reason God, but but then you also believe that

718
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: on the other side of it, obviously, But it's just

719
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: like hearing y'all talk about it, that's got to be

720
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: so hard to hear in that moment. I would say, yes,

721
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: I mean more so with the tragedy yause my father

722
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: in law was the most I mean beautiful human being

723
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: you've ever met. I honestly thought when they took them

724
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: that they would give him back because they just would

725
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: fall in love with him. So that was really hard

726
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 1: to wrap your head around, Like losing two people one

727
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: is hard enough, but two at the same time in

728
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: such a horrible way. And we were really both my

729
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: husband and I we were going through the motions like

730
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: with our faith. I mean, yes, we were still going

731
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 1: to church on Sunday because we had our kids, but

732
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: we were really angry with God, like we were just

733
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: like why would you do this? Like you took a

734
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: good one, like why would you do that? And it

735
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: went We went through a lot of that's when we

736
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: really started like a prayer and meditation practice and you know,

737
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: spiritual advisors, a lot of reading, you know, messages come

738
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: to you like at different times. And I'm Catholic, and

739
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: the funny thing is I was hosting a Catholic conference

740
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: and you know, my husband's in the room because he's

741
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: still angry. He's like, I didn't even want to go

742
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 1: down there right now. I mean it was still from

743
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 1: when everything had happened. And there was a priest that

744
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: got up there and he was talking about Mary and

745
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: like there's a book called thirty three Days to Morning Glory.

746
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: And I never really had a devotion to Mary. I

747
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: mean I also have friends that are Christians and you

748
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 1: know just kind of like, let's go straight to the

749
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: big Guy, and you know, we don't really need to

750
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 1: go to Mary so much. So I'm hearing this and

751
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: I'm just like we were so again like angry with

752
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: God and the relationship was not there, and I don't know,

753
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: it was like a light bulb went off to me

754
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: in that moment and I just thought, wait, maybe Mary

755
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: is the answer for us. It was just it was

756
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 1: like just delivered ran to my husband. I said, you've

757
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: got to meet this priest. We got we have to

758
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: like dig into this I introduced them and we started

759
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: doing this devotion, the thirty three Days to Morning Glory,

760
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 1: and it was Mary who brought us back into union

761
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: with her son with Jesus, which is crazy for me

762
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: to say, because again, like there was no like you know,

763
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,439
Speaker 1: I loved I mean, you know Mary, mother of God. Yes,

764
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: but it's just crazy how things kind of work, you know.

765
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: That is beautiful yet that Yeah, peace has always been

766
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 1: so fascinating to me when you go through such a

767
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: tragedy and have this faith aspect you know how, I

768
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: don't know, it's just a fascinating process, you know what

769
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: that looks. It's interesting that Mary is the connection though,

770
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: because Mary knows tragedy better than any of us, right,

771
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: I mean Mary lost her only son. Yeah, and so

772
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: for you to identify with that is just like that

773
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 1: is just not coincidental to me at all. No, it's not.

774
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: That is like the most gifted, like wonderful in a

775
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: tragic public way, she lost her son. Yeah, that's beautiful. Yeah, um,

776
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: I mean thank you for letting me share that with

777
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 1: you guys, because I don't share a lot about you know,

778
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: my faith. Your faith is very personal and never know

779
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: this world like how people take it. But that's how

780
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: I got through these things. I mean truly, that's the

781
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: place and I had to go to pull me through. Um,

782
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: definitely had nothing to do with myself. It was a

783
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: lot of the divine right, UM, thank you for sure,

784
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: thank you, Yeah, thank you. We we we appreciate that

785
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: because we're you know, we're all on our Christian journey

786
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: and you know it's um sometimes you know, it's it's

787
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: hard to I've I'm probably the newest on that journey. Um,

788
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: just like now understanding like the wise of you know,

789
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: going through things like well, why did that happen? Where

790
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: was God in this? I always ask where is God?

791
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 1: Where is God in this? Like I don't understand? And

792
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: then it's it's, um, he shows up and he shows

793
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: you later. Sometimes it's not in the moment that you need,

794
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: you know, And I think that's where the peace comes,

795
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: where it's like cap under your question. It's like in

796
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: that moment, it's it's so surrender. Yeah, have you thought

797
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 1: about that at all? Like, Uh, it's something we've been

798
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 1: practicing a lot lately and it's really helped us because again,

799
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 1: like we all want to control, right, Like you feel

800
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 1: like if you let go being a parent, being a

801
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: mom and you know you're running a household, you else,

802
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 1: you're hugged like you have so much going on and

803
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: if you let go, then it's all going to fall

804
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 1: to you know what. Um, but we've had to learn,

805
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: I mean, and also being in this business that we're in,

806
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 1: it's nothing as promised. You may be working today, you're

807
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: not working tomorrow when job comes in and it goes out,

808
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: you know, so there's a lot of so do you

809
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 1: feel like you're about to fall off the edge? And

810
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 1: so we uh, we read we read The Surrender Experiment

811
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: by Michael Singer and just the idea of surrender was

812
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: very interesting to me because again type A trying to

813
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: control everything at all times, and I feel like surrender

814
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: kind of goes hand in hand with faith, right. So um,

815
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: it's definitely a practice, right, but something that maybe you know,

816
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: just to ponder and to think about. That was one

817
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: of my first books I read after my divorced. Yeah,

818
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 1: that was one of my first books. It's a great book.

819
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: Have you read it. It's a great it's really good one.

820
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: It's amazing. But your book, though, I'm so excited I

821
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: am getting through, but back to you in your book,

822
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: that is. But no, um, I just can I just

823
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: ask one question around that. So it's been eight years

824
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: from that tragedy. M yeah, how are How are you

825
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 1: in the family doing? You know, we are doing amazing.

826
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: My brother, let's see, my brother in law's two children

827
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: are thriving. I mean one is in the top school

828
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 1: in Germany, the other one or they're both in school

829
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: in Germany. Um, they're doing so well. My mother in law,

830
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: you know, she her dream was always too. She loves

831
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: the beach, she loves the ocean they live in. She

832
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: lives in Tampico in Mexico, and we were able to

833
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 1: get her a little place in front of the ocean

834
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: so she could watch the sunset every single day. And

835
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: so she's doing well. Obviously, it's harder for her because

836
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: she lost both her husband and her her firstborn at

837
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: the same time. My husband doesn't talk about it as

838
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 1: much as he you know, you ste I think that

839
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: we are doing really, really well, and I think that

840
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: we feel their presence now more than ever. I feel

841
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: like we get signed all the time, and they are

842
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: We definitely change the way we live, for sure. We

843
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: do live very much in the moment, like in the moment,

844
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: being present, knowing that tomorrow is definitely not promised. We

845
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: make decisions differently as a family. My husband loves to surf,

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Speaker 1: but we live in southern California, Like there's no way

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Speaker 1: we could afford that, And we're renting a house like

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Speaker 1: in a beautiful place in Lochayan, and we really need

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Speaker 1: to buy a place, and we decided to build a

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Speaker 1: beach house like in Mexico, like driving distance, which is nuts,

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Speaker 1: so crazy, But going back to the thing like life

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Speaker 1: desire and what you love. And in the book I

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Speaker 1: also talk a little bit about and as as adults,

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Speaker 1: as women, you know, do the things that set your

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Speaker 1: soul on fire. I feel like son, so often as

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Speaker 1: we get older, we stopped doing those things that like

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Speaker 1: like that fire, you know, because again, life, the responsibilities,

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Speaker 1: all of it. So just to remember those things and

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Speaker 1: make sure you do that, you know, daily. I just

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Speaker 1: saw Oprah and Gail, who I love. I know all

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Speaker 1: we all love some Oprah right They're in Jordan right now,

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Speaker 1: you know, covering themselves up with mud, and writing on

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Speaker 1: the camels and and that was sort of their message yesterday.

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Speaker 1: It was online and just saying like don't forget to

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Speaker 1: do the things you love, like again, like you have

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Speaker 1: one life. I was like preached sisters, like that's absolutely true.

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Speaker 1: I love it. And it's all his with all of

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Speaker 1: that too, it's it's a growth opportunity hydrotherapists. She calls

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Speaker 1: it AFCA. It's a fucking growth opportunity. Oh yeah. So

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Speaker 1: it's like with everything, it's like look at it AFCA.

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Speaker 1: So it's like it's kind of my motto AFCA. I

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Speaker 1: love that. Yeah, um, Ali, thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: coming on the show. I just your light. I've just everything.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I so appreciate it. I know you're just yeahiful.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for just breathing and everything you have to say.

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Speaker 1: I love that you took the initiative to write about

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Speaker 1: all of this though, because I think the simplifying it's

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Speaker 1: like the how do you eat an elephant one bite

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Speaker 1: at a time? Is something I always say. But it's like,

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Speaker 1: you know, a lot of us just feel lost in

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Speaker 1: order to start, so getting like a roadmap, especially fellow

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Speaker 1: a types, here is our thanks for sharing at our,

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Speaker 1: A type meeting that matters, just the simplicity and like

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Speaker 1: the realness and just from the heart piece of it.

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Speaker 1: So everyone go get Ali Lander's book, Reshape your life,

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Speaker 1: don't settle because you are worth it. Thanks girl, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much.