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Speaker 2: It is Tuesday night, September fourteenth, Ure of Our Lord,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. It's Tuesday, which means it's moving day,

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Speaker 2: and it's augusta national That means something totally different than

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Speaker 2: it does around here. It means it's time to predict

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Speaker 2: week three. They're telling you already. It's just spit all

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Speaker 2: over the place. You see that, Jesse, We're live, roll

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Speaker 2: with it. They are telling you. And by day I

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Speaker 2: mean the casuals. We have trademarked that phrase. The casuals

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Speaker 2: are telling you as if they've gotten amnesia from last Saturday.

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Speaker 2: This is gonna be a sleeper Saturday. Yeah, you got

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Speaker 2: a couple of big games, but underneath that not all

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Speaker 2: that much. Ignore them entirely, just dismiss them. You know

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Speaker 2: what happens when they tell you it's gonna be a

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Speaker 2: slow Saturday. So tonight we're gonna break down Auburn Penn State.

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Speaker 2: That's the game will be at this Saturday. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: break down Alabama Florida. That's gonna be a big one too.

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Speaker 2: That is on the family of networks here on CBS.

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Speaker 2: There is a May your job opening that we may

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Speaker 2: be expected, but not quite so suddenly. And I have

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Speaker 2: intentionally waited to give you my opinion on this until tonight,

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Speaker 2: which is normally the case.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't.

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Speaker 2: If you've noticed, and some of you have, I don't

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Speaker 2: feel the need to run to Twitter and you know,

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Speaker 2: put a video up of myself every time something happens.

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Speaker 2: We've always got a show no further than twenty four

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Speaker 2: or forty eight hours away. We will discuss it. You

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Speaker 2: don't always have to be first to put something out there.

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Speaker 2: So we're going to discuss it tonight. And I want

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Speaker 2: to give you a little bit of context about the

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Speaker 2: USC job and about who could be a candidate. But

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Speaker 2: I'm not putting out a hot board tonight. What I

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Speaker 2: want to do is ask some deeper questions about USC.

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Speaker 2: And if you live in Raleigh, North Carolina, or you

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Speaker 2: live in up here we go again, Pocatello, Idaho. I

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Speaker 2: want answers from you, even if you're not a Southern

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Speaker 2: cal fan. We are going to add a best bet

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Speaker 2: onto the Rama Noudle Express tonight. We are going to

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Speaker 2: have a brand new JP poll. And trust me when

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Speaker 2: I tell you there is some big movement. There also

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Speaker 2: big movement coming, I think at Ohio State. The other

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Speaker 2: and I told you there've got to be defensive staff

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Speaker 2: changes there and I don't think Ryan Day's going to

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Speaker 2: wait till the end of the year. Well, based on

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Speaker 2: I think changes either are coming or they've already happened.

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Speaker 2: So as always, we've got a jam packed show. But

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Speaker 2: I want to bring your attention to something very special

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Speaker 2: and it's very important. We got an announcement, good old

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Speaker 2: throughout the challenge and we knew College Game Day was

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Speaker 2: going to be at Iowa State, when we were going

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Speaker 2: to be there, and we didn't get picked to be

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Speaker 2: the guest picker, which is not something we were aiming for.

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Speaker 1: I'm just messing around when I say.

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Speaker 2: That kinda but I did tell you, hey, you know what,

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Speaker 2: it's going to be a great opportunity. We got a

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Speaker 2: huge fan base at Iowa State, and that was confirmed

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Speaker 2: by the dozens and dozens of you. I took pictures

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Speaker 2: with and met someone get us on air, someone get

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Speaker 1: Freight's logo on air.

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Speaker 2: And there I am in my hotel room about to

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Speaker 2: and you're saying, turn to ESPN, look at what's happening.

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Speaker 1: And there it is.

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Speaker 2: But we didn't have a name, and I put it

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Speaker 2: then just after the show, I got an email and

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Speaker 2: it was from Calvin Marx IOWA class of twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: if you're watching right now, you're seeing evidence because I

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Speaker 2: Calvin went above and beyond and he proved it. Now

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Speaker 2: what does all this mean. Well, you can do it

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Speaker 2: but no, there's something a lot more tangible on the line.

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Speaker 2: few truths in an uncertain world, but I'm telling you

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Speaker 2: the show tonight. I do want to also say, you know,

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Speaker 2: we've got game predictions to make. And we're going to

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Speaker 2: start with the game that we're going to be at Saturday, Auburn.

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Speaker 1: At Penn State.

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Speaker 2: The Nitney Lions, the fighting Jesse Myers, if you will,

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Speaker 1: We may be able to two to one run.

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Speaker 2: To pass ratio our way to a fourth quarter competitive ballgame.

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Speaker 2: The important data point here for Auburn is the Penn

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Speaker 2: It was one of the first big kickoffs on that Saturday.

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Speaker 2: you to believe there are anything other than this death

434
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Speaker 2: star that's marching towards another national championship in which they

435
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Speaker 2: will just beat everyone by four touchdowns. So, having said

436
00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,880
Speaker 2: all that, can Florida beat them? Well, remember the formula

437
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Speaker 2: on this show, at least if we're going to break

438
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Speaker 2: down a game, we think there is a chance either

439
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Speaker 2: team can win.

440
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Speaker 1: And when we have these fat spreads like.

441
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Speaker 2: This, what we try and do is not just an

442
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Speaker 2: equal opportunity breakdown. What we try and do is ask ourselves,

443
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Speaker 2: could the upset happen? If we think the answer is

444
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Speaker 2: even five or ten percent chance, yes, which we do,

445
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Speaker 2: how would it happen?

446
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Speaker 1: So?

447
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Speaker 2: How would Florida beat Alabama? Because I think Alabama is

448
00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,480
Speaker 2: right to be had early in the season right now,

449
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Speaker 2: if they face the right team, their right to be

450
00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:47,480
Speaker 2: had or at least push to.

451
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Speaker 1: The very brink. How would it happen?

452
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Speaker 2: And is Florida that team Florida has to take advantage.

453
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Speaker 1: The first thing they would have to.

454
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Speaker 2: Do is take advantage of some relative pass protection issues,

455
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Speaker 2: especially on the right side of this alibe Bama offensive line.

456
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Speaker 2: It's all they're talking about inside Alabama Nation. That's all

457
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Speaker 2: they're talking about right now. Well, it's one of the

458
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Speaker 2: main things they're.

459
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Speaker 1: Talking about now.

460
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Speaker 2: Again, so far, you don't maybe take it as seriously

461
00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,520
Speaker 2: because it hasn't victimized them.

462
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Speaker 1: They've still been able to win. But that doesn't mean

463
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Speaker 1: it can't.

464
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Speaker 2: So you look at Florida so far this year, I

465
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Speaker 2: want to say it's seven sacks thirteen tackles for loss.

466
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Speaker 2: They don't just rely on one or two guys. They've

467
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Speaker 2: got several guys. They got Zach Carter, they got Moon,

468
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Speaker 2: they got a I mean, I got a whole list

469
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Speaker 2: of them, Cox, Bogel, Trusdale's Air Dexter.

470
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Speaker 1: They got guys they can depend on.

471
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Speaker 2: So they have an entire wave and a couple of

472
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Speaker 2: waves really of dependable pass rushers, which is different than

473
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Speaker 2: in the past, where you may go into an Alabama

474
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Speaker 2: game and there's one or two guys. They can neutralize

475
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Speaker 2: one or two guys. They're always good enough to do that,

476
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Speaker 2: but if you can come at them with several different threats,

477
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Speaker 2: then maybe that's a little bit different. And so that's

478
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Speaker 2: part one of what Florida would have to do here.

479
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Speaker 2: And by doing that, you're ultimately trying to harass the

480
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Speaker 2: quarterback and you're.

481
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Speaker 1: Just affecting him.

482
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Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be sacks, but you have to

483
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Speaker 2: affect the young quarterback enough to where your crowd does

484
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Speaker 2: its job, and then your defense does its job and

485
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,199
Speaker 2: you force some mistakes and you get some more possessions,

486
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Speaker 2: or at the very least, you get some better field

487
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Speaker 2: position to where you're not constantly backed up in the

488
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Speaker 2: shadow of your own goalpost. You also, I think, look

489
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 2: at the Florida quarterback situation, and it's totally fair to

490
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Speaker 2: spend a majority of your time this week if you

491
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Speaker 2: want to talking about this. You got Emory Jones in

492
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Speaker 2: preview magazine Culture. You would be led to believe he's

493
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Speaker 2: the wire to wire starter. We started telling you early August,

494
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 2: once you started to see it become clear in the

495
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,920
Speaker 2: Florida fall camp that Anthony Richardson was the real deal,

496
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Speaker 2: we started to tell you it's going to be fun

497
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Speaker 2: to watch because eventually that guy's going to get on

498
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Speaker 2: the field and he's going to do what he does

499
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Speaker 2: and you're not going to be able to deny it anymore. Well,

500
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Speaker 2: that's happened a couple of times, and it doesn't help

501
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Speaker 2: Emory Jones that it is coincided with subpar play from him.

502
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Speaker 1: There are no two ways to put that.

503
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Speaker 2: There are some theories amongst Florida fans about why that is.

504
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Speaker 2: You know, there are some people who would lead you

505
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Speaker 2: to believe that, Well, you know, maybe Mullen knows what

506
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Speaker 2: he can do and he's using these games to work

507
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 2: on what Emory needs to improve on. Sometimes I think

508
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 2: folks overthink the room on that. But even if that's

509
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 2: the case, it's not like one guy is shining and

510
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 2: the backup is also shining. It's one guy struggling and

511
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,439
Speaker 2: the backup keeps putting jaws on the ground when he

512
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 2: comes in. Well, that has turned into fans and media

513
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 2: questioning Dan Mullen about why Anthony Richardson isn't his starter,

514
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Speaker 2: And Dan Mullin has been the guy who's come back

515
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Speaker 2: and said, no, Emory's our starter, And what he's really

516
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Speaker 2: telling him is what you're seeing is only a small

517
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 2: slice of the entire pie. You're seeing Anthony Richardson do

518
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,399
Speaker 2: some things against inferior athletes. I'm wanting to put someone

519
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Speaker 2: in who understands my entire offense and has the ability

520
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Speaker 2: to process things real time. And these are not words

521
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Speaker 2: coming out of Dan Mullen's mouth, but if you read

522
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Speaker 2: between the lines, he's telling you I don't trust him

523
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Speaker 2: to run my entire offense. Having said that, we also

524
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Speaker 2: know another thing about Dan Mullen. He's not always forthcoming

525
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Speaker 2: with the media. He's like I would be. So I'm

526
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Speaker 2: not blaming him. If I were a head coach, I

527
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 2: play games with us all the time, and so Dan

528
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Speaker 2: Mullen could think very well, right in line with what

529
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Speaker 2: you think, and he could just be sam bagging anything's

530
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Speaker 2: on the table. But what I am saying is it's

531
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Speaker 2: possible that Anthony Richardson takes eighty percent of the snap Saturday.

532
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Speaker 2: It's possibly he takes twenty percent of the snap Saturday.

533
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Speaker 2: But ultimately it is in Emery Jones' hands because if

534
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Speaker 2: Emory Jones does not struggle, Emory Jones is not really

535
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Speaker 2: coming off the field for any significant period of time.

536
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Speaker 2: If he does, then everything's in play. But ultimately he

537
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Speaker 2: still controls it. Alabama's ripe, I think to be pushed.

538
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Speaker 2: Right now, Nick Saban is telegraphing it to you. They

539
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Speaker 2: are ripe to be pushed. But here's what it takes

540
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Speaker 2: to do it. And I'm about to show you what

541
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 2: our model thinks about this gaming just a second. It

542
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 2: takes quarterback precision, especially on third down passing.

543
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Speaker 1: There are folks out.

544
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Speaker 2: There, there are a dime a dozen who will tell you, well,

545
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,199
Speaker 2: you know those mobile quarterbacks. Now Nick Saban struggles with

546
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 2: those mobile quarterbacks. There are quarterbacks who can run that

547
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Speaker 2: Alabama has turned into greasy spots on the field. And

548
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 2: it's not mobility. It's the ability to throw the ball.

549
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 2: And if you're running while you do it, and so

550
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 2: be it more power to you. But it's precision. When

551
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 2: you go back and watch the games they've lost, there

552
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 2: are four or five or six throws that you look

553
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 2: at all the way back to the days of Steven

554
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 2: Garcia and extending all the way through modern day.

555
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Speaker 1: They hadn't lost very many games.

556
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Speaker 2: But when they lose, you watch and you say, wow, whoa,

557
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 2: oh my, you just got to tip your cap to

558
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 2: that receiver man that quarterback's never going to make that

559
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 2: kind of throw again.

560
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Speaker 1: That's the effort it takes.

561
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Speaker 2: So I got to ask myself, is there a quarterback

562
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Speaker 2: on this roster, Richardson or Emery Jones that can consistently

563
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Speaker 2: do that all afternoon?

564
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Speaker 1: That's the first thing.

565
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Speaker 2: The second thing is can you be physical enough versus Alabama?

566
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Speaker 2: Maybe I'm not so much looking interior. I'm looking a's

567
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Speaker 2: the kind of things that I thought Miami would try

568
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,199
Speaker 2: and do a little bit more in Week one, And

569
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Speaker 2: that's get on the perimeter. It's fine a place where

570
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Speaker 2: you think you have some favorable physical matchups.

571
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Speaker 1: Now, I don't think.

572
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Speaker 2: This is going to work out for Florida, but I

573
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Speaker 2: would watch it nonetheless.

574
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Speaker 1: Can you do that?

575
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Speaker 2: Because that's also in the twenty what was it the

576
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen or twenty nineteen Iron Bowl? Remember being on

577
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 2: the field for that when in Auburn and Malsan they

578
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,239
Speaker 2: went out wide basically extensions of the run game. They

579
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 2: went quick passes to wide receivers and letting those guys

580
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 2: stalk block out there five or six times in a row,

581
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 2: and Obama had no answer for it.

582
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Speaker 1: Auburn ended up winning that game.

583
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Speaker 2: I think that Bama defense is a little bit different

584
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 2: caliber right now, but it is something you probably have

585
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Speaker 2: to try. Third thing is Florida's got to execute in

586
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Speaker 2: the red zone. And the fourth thing is they got

587
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 2: to sustain for four quarters. If a team can do that,

588
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 2: you can beat Alabama. You can push them. Let me

589
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 2: put it that way, you can push Alabama into the

590
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Speaker 2: fourth quarter. I don't know that Florida is that team

591
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 2: right now, So Jesse, let's take a look at what

592
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 2: the model thinks. Let's take a look what the Vegas

593
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Speaker 2: number is right now, because I'm gonna pull possibly a

594
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 2: little manual over ride here. So the Vegas number currently

595
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,360
Speaker 2: this has moved kind of throughout the day. I think

596
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 2: it hit fifteen, but it's fourteen and a half right now.

597
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 2: Alabama favored by fourteen and a half. Are models right

598
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 2: there with it? We got Alabama minus fourteen. I switched

599
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,439
Speaker 2: on this about two hours ago, full disclosure, because I

600
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 2: have that feeling in listening to Nick Sabe and I

601
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,719
Speaker 2: know how to interpret him, and he is telling you

602
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 2: we're a little bit more vulnerable than you think we are,

603
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 2: and I wish more people around here would realize it.

604
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 2: That's what he's telling you, And so anytime that's the

605
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 2: case and they're laying multiple scores on the road, one

606
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 2: of the most hostile places those dudes will ever play.

607
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 2: On that roster, you tend to want to be the

608
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 2: guy who jumps on the dog. But I still look

609
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 2: at that list of what it takes and I just

610
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 2: don't know that Florida is the team that can execute that.

611
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 2: And what I think is going to happen is I

612
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 2: think there's going to be a really spirited battle here.

613
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 2: But I think what's gonna happen is there'll be a

614
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 2: time in the second or third quarter maybe where you're

615
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 2: looking and you're saying, I wish I would have taken

616
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 2: Florida and the points, and you look up at the

617
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 2: end and it's like forty four to twenty one or

618
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 2: forty four to twenty and you're saying, wow, Bama ended

619
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 2: up covering and they made it look like a blowout,

620
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 2: but this didn't feel like a blowout when I was

621
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 2: watching the game. That's the kind of final I think

622
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 2: you'll see Saturday a struggle and then Obama pull away

623
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 2: and an Alabama win and an Alabama cover. That's where

624
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 2: we're going with this one. Alabama to win, Alabama to cover.

625
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 2: I cannot say I feel overly confident in that one

626
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 2: because there's a higher turnover risk than there usually would be,

627
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 2: and those turnovers they're nasty. We got some turnover out

628
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 2: West and it's in the coaching department. Clay Helton is

629
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 2: out as the head coach at USC that you already know.

630
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 2: We were pretty adamant that this was coming the other night.

631
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 2: I never do segments like that, and so when I do,

632
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 2: I'm very very sure of something.

633
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Speaker 1: And it's not like they had.

634
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 2: Called me in advance and let me know, but had

635
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 2: a pretty good feeling that was coming. And it reminds

636
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 2: me so much of twenty sixteen. It's LSU versus Auburn,

637
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 2: and we're there, We're in Jordenhair Stadium, we're covering the

638
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 2: game and it looks like LSU's just scored a walk

639
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 2: off touchdown and oh my goodness, place goes crazy. We're

640
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 2: down there in the LSU corner and then there's replay,

641
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 2: and then replay overturns it, and then jorden Hair Stadium

642
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 2: goes crazy because Auburn's won the game. There was no

643
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 2: time left on the clock. And then less Miles. The

644
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 2: postgame scene was surreal. I've told this story before I

645
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 2: go up the tunnel. I have a feeling he's gonna

646
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 2: get fired. I go up the tunnel. Joe Leva at

647
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 2: the time, the ad at LSU is there. He's standing

648
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 2: outside the LSU locker room, no one speaking to each other.

649
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 2: Less Miles, very somber. He looked like he's just off

650
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 2: in a trance somewhere. He walks up, goes in the

651
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 2: locker room, they do their postgame stuff. He comes back

652
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 2: out with his wife. He goes back out on the field.

653
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 2: It's empty at that point, stadium's empty, and he's filming

654
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 2: his postgame show. His wife has her back to him

655
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 2: and she's leaned up against one of the rod iron

656
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 2: gates there that surround the field at Jerdenhair Stadium.

657
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: Crazy, really weird to experience that.

658
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 2: But the big takeaway when they did later fire less

659
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 2: Miles that week was not I can't.

660
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: Believe he got fired.

661
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 2: It was just as is the case with Clay Helton

662
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 2: right now, the same as anyone with a reasonable head

663
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 2: on their shoulders, just thinking why did they fire him

664
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 2: two games into the season. What is it that you

665
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 2: saw so far this year that you didn't already know

666
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 2: about Heton. It was the same with less Miles that year.

667
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 2: There was nothing new that was learned about less Miles

668
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 2: in the first four weeks of twenty sixteen that you

669
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 2: didn't already know about the guy long before them. So

670
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: that is a conversation that can be had. But for

671
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 2: the purposes of where we're moving forward, I think we

672
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 2: can table it for just a second, but it is

673
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 2: valid to make that point. So what's possible at USC?

674
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 2: Kind of touched on this the other night. Everything's possible

675
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 2: at USC. It is hard, as I was talking about,

676
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 2: to explain to a fifteen year old or sixteen or

677
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 2: seventeen high school kids recruits. It's hard to explain to

678
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: him what life was like in the early to mid

679
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 2: two thousands, which is not that long ago, but to

680
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 2: them it's an entire lifetime ago. It's hard to explain

681
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 2: to someone who has never experienced Southern Cal at full

682
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 2: volume what it's like when Southern Cal runs college football.

683
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 2: There was a time in the early to mid two

684
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 2: thousands of the Pete Carroll era where not only did

685
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 2: you not want to play USC, you really got scared

686
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 2: that they were going to totally embarrass you as a

687
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 2: program and set you back as a program.

688
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: And it was with good reason.

689
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 2: There was a lot of merit behind that reputation, cause

690
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 2: they did it, and they were the most feared program

691
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 2: in America. And here's the other fun part, the reason

692
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 2: I laugh at all these excuses that are made in

693
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 2: the modern day about the lack of enthusiasm on the

694
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 2: West Coast. The coliseum was full, and those beaches were

695
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,239
Speaker 2: out there, and the nightlife was out there, and the

696
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 2: Hollywood scene and the entire La entertainment scene was out there.

697
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 2: All the stuff they tell you is distracting these days.

698
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 2: It was already there. No one cared. The hottest ticket

699
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 2: in town was to be on the sideline at the

700
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 2: coliseum on a Saturday night or a Saturday afternoon. You

701
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 2: had folks who couldn't even spell, They couldn't tell you

702
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 2: four starters on the team, but they were there because

703
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 2: that was where the place to be was, and the Colosseum.

704
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: Would be packed and it could be again.

705
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 2: It's like James Earl Jones, everything it once was and

706
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 2: could be again. Well, that's usc like his speech and

707
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 2: Field of Dreams. You can make it about USC too. However,

708
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 2: that's what's pop. I also think some other context here

709
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 2: is very important, and that is to understand what has changed.

710
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 2: What is USC as a job. It's still a premier job.

711
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: It's still a very sought after job.

712
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: It's just that the room's a little more crowded.

713
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 2: Back then, if you were to tell someone Pete Carroll's

714
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 2: about to leave, and you looked around the country, you

715
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 2: would say, what other jobs are more coveted than USC

716
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 2: and you would have been able to easily count them

717
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 2: on one hand and not even fill up the hand. Well,

718
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 2: these days there are I got five fingers on my hand.

719
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 2: I don't know about you. There are that many programs

720
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 2: in the SEC that are more coveted by a lot

721
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 2: of people than the Southern col job. If you don't

722
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 2: believe me, we'll ask some of them, because that's where

723
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 2: I got the opinion from. But number two, here's what

724
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 2: I was told by someone in the agent world when

725
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 2: this news broke, because I wanted to know about a timeline.

726
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 2: Everyone's putting their hot board out, everyone's putting out their

727
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 2: list of candidates, and so naturally you want to know, well,

728
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 2: they've made the move away from Clay Helton. So after

729
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 2: you fire a coach, naturally, the next question is or

730
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 2: how long is it going to take to get a

731
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: new guy in here? And where is he going to

732
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 2: come from? Well, I was told by someone in that

733
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 2: agent world, pump the brakes. You can go and take

734
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 2: your time. I know you have a show to do.

735
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 2: Go ahead and take your time. You can go ahead

736
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 2: and talk about matchups and predictions. This ain't gonna happen

737
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 2: for a while. And I'm going to tell you why.

738
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 2: There is a widely held belief in our industry. This

739
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: is the agent talking that the LSU job is going

740
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 2: to come open.

741
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: This is his opinion. This is not me talking.

742
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 2: So director hate mail elsewhere, and no one in our world,

743
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 2: and no one in the coaching world worth their salt,

744
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 2: is going to make a move before we understand how

745
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 2: the market's going to react if and when that LSU

746
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 2: job comes open.

747
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: That's part one.

748
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 2: So even if you don't want the LSU job, you

749
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,479
Speaker 2: sit back and wait because you leverage more money out

750
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 2: of USC and it's just better for more jobs to

751
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 2: be open if you're a candidate. But Part B is

752
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 2: there are a ton of people who would want that

753
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 2: LSU job over the USC job, And we would not

754
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 2: have said that in the early two thousands.

755
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: And that is what has changed.

756
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 2: USC is still a premier job, but LSU, Texas, A Georgia, Alabama, Florida,

757
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 2: all these jobs are more coveted today for the average

758
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 2: available candidate than the USC job. Is that SEC sticker

759
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 2: already means a lot. In the next ten to fifteen

760
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 2: years of this sport's existence, it will mean infinitely more.

761
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: And so the health of that conference and the TV

762
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: all the TV money.

763
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 2: I don't have to explain it to you know what's about.

764
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 2: You got more competition, It's what I'm saying. So Georgia

765
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 2: and Alabama and Florida, they're not coming open. LSU may

766
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 2: come open. So that's another dynamic to consider. But what

767
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 2: needs to happen, Well, we got to hire a guy.

768
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,239
Speaker 2: I got that. Who do you need to hire the

769
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 2: right candidate? Well, you're right about that, But let's hold

770
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 2: off in just a second if we can. This is

771
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 2: fresh news, it's only been forty eight hours or so.

772
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: Let's ask ourselves what does the right candidate at USC

773
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 2: look like?

774
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: What does it feel like?

775
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 2: And I think sometimes programs go about this backwards I

776
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 2: think sometimes when there's a job opening programs and athletic departments,

777
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 2: they immediately hire search firms to do the job they're

778
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 2: supposed to do, and then they compile a list of candidates.

779
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 2: And what we're looking at is we're looking at wins

780
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 2: and losses, and we're looking at average recruiting rankings, and

781
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 2: we're looking at a resume and there's.

782
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: No life on it.

783
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 2: There's no personality on it, there's no culture on it.

784
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 2: The intangibles, for instance, that Sam Pittman is leveraging in

785
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 2: order to win at Arkansas, we're not even considering in

786
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 2: a lot of cases. I hope Southern Cal plays this differently.

787
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 2: I hope before Southern Cal ever goes out and finds

788
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,479
Speaker 2: Luke Fickel or find any of these number of names

789
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 2: that are being thrown around, what I hope they can

790
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 2: do is they can look in the mirror and they

791
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 2: can answer this question, what is usc What is Southern Cal?

792
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: Because the answer is that the blank.

793
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 2: That you fill in there is totally different than the

794
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 2: blank you would fill in Tuscaloose, Alabama, or you would

795
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 2: fill in Columbus, Ohio. That's culture, It's totally different. That's

796
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 2: one of the beautiful things about this sport. But that

797
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 2: also means some candidates are more uniquely cut out for

798
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 2: your job than others are. It's not always how much

799
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 2: they one in one particular location. Maybe they were more

800
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 2: cut out for that place than they were for you.

801
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 2: How many times have you seen in the past a

802
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 2: guy win at one place and then he gets what

803
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 2: we think to be a promotion a better job, and

804
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 2: he doesn't win, and you just can't figure out why

805
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 2: why is this guy not winning? It looked like a

806
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 2: grand slam hire. He probably wasn't a culture fit. That's

807
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 2: probably what it was. So USC before they go out

808
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 2: and they hire anyone, and before they even compile a

809
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 2: list of candidates, what I hope, if they're doing things right,

810
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,280
Speaker 2: is they can accurately answer the question what is USC?

811
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 2: And then once they filled that blank in, then you

812
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 2: start to cast your net and you got to define

813
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 2: the principles and values and characteristics, what are those intangibles

814
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 2: and tangibles that you're looking for in a person, And

815
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 2: then you start to compile that list and you never

816
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 2: go to a single website, You never open a single newspaper,

817
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 2: you never turn on a single podcast or talk radio

818
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 2: show and listen to anyone else's opinion. You define your characteristics,

819
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 2: and then you go compile the list of candidates and

820
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 2: you interview and you let the chips fall where they may.

821
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 2: But in order to do that, you got to have

822
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 2: decision makers in the room that can answer the question

823
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 2: that started all this, and that is what is USC.

824
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 2: The biggest fear for any Trojan fan right now is

825
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 2: the folks running a ship out there don't know the

826
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 2: answer to that question.

827
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,280
Speaker 1: The fan base does. The fan base always knows the answer.

828
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 2: Sometimes you got people that are so far detached from

829
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 2: the ground level where the real fans live, that they

830
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 2: can't answer, and as a result, they are ill qualified

831
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 2: to make the decisions that they are tasked with making.

832
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: So this is hypothetical.

833
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,919
Speaker 2: I'm not telling you this is my belief about where

834
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: the USC job search is going. I'm telling you I

835
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 2: hope it goes the right way.

836
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: Monitor this.

837
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 2: We will obviously be talking about this a lot.

838
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: What did I oh, oh, hey, here's one more point.

839
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,280
Speaker 2: Remember you don't get money, and you don't get trophies

840
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 2: for winning press conferences. Yes, when you're interviewing a candidate,

841
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 2: please don't think about how cool the press conference will be.

842
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 2: Please don't do that. That is a one way ticket

843
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 2: out the door for you and your coach. Earlier today,

844
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 2: shifting gears here. Earlier today, Ryan Day had a press

845
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 2: conference the Ohio State head coach, as he normally would

846
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 2: be one to do on Tuesday afternoon, and he said

847
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 2: a lot of interesting things, a lot of things that

848
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 2: kind of coincided with what we expect. And so let's

849
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 2: take you back. They suffered, they being Ohio State a

850
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 2: very stinging loss. It was a very it was a

851
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 2: bad Saturday in Columbus. And it's not necessarily that they lost.

852
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,919
Speaker 2: Sometimes good teams lose. It's that when you look back

853
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 2: on it, they never really felt like they gave themselves

854
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 2: a fair chance to win, and that can't be tolerated.

855
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 2: And so someday I came on this show and I

856
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 2: said what I think is very obvious, defensive staff changes

857
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 2: are going to have to happen there. And I didn't

858
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 2: really mean at the end of the year. Ryan Day,

859
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 2: I think agrees with that. He probably didn't even need

860
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: to wait and hear me say it. If you want

861
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 2: me to be honest with you, But Ryan Day does

862
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 2: not app here to be waiting. So today, the normal

863
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 2: standard procedure would be Ryan Day meets with the media,

864
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 2: assistant coaches meet with the media, and some players. Today

865
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 2: it was the headman and the headman alone. Ryan Day

866
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 2: met with the media, and he did not mince words.

867
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,439
Speaker 2: A few of the many quotable takeaways from Ryan Day's

868
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 2: press conference today. They asked him about the biggest issue

869
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 2: right now facing Ohio State.

870
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 1: He said, well, it's a bit of a pattern.

871
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 2: We took a long, hard look the last forty eight

872
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 2: hours at everything that's going on. We're certainly going to

873
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 2: make some adjustments, not only in how we are attacking

874
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 2: opposing offenses, but also structurally in how we're doing day

875
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 2: to day operations. They then asked what his response is

876
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,439
Speaker 2: to the critical breakdowns defensively the other day. He said, well,

877
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 2: you want to act, but you don't want to overreact.

878
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 2: You have to make sure you do things the right

879
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 2: way and let people do their job. But when it

880
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 2: gets to a certain point, you have to get things fixed.

881
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 2: That's what we're going to do. They also asked them

882
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 2: straight up about Kerry Combs, who is the current defensive

883
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 2: coordinator there. He said, I'd rather not share those conversations.

884
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: I bet he wouldn't, he said, But when you look

885
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 2: at the results from the past couple of games and

886
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 2: look at the end of last year, this is not

887
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:09,760
Speaker 2: what we expect.

888
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: This is not our expectation.

889
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 2: That's all part of looking at how we need to

890
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 2: move forward with this thing. Lastly, when asked directly if

891
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 2: Carrie Comb's defensive coordinator will be calling plays this week,

892
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 2: Ryan Day's response was I'm not getting into specifics. Allow

893
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 2: me to translate no, he won't no, because the default

894
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 2: there is always well, yeah, he's my defensive coordinator. So

895
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 2: if it's anything other than yes, the answer is probably no.

896
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what it translates into. He even used

897
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 2: the word disappointed today. But it translates into it sucks

898
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,280
Speaker 2: that I can't trust the guys I hired right now.

899
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 2: But we also know what else that translates into. And

900
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 2: this is a tough pill to swallow for Ryan Day.

901
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 2: It means I hired the wrong guys. And there's a

902
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 2: thing that's happening right now with Ryan Day that has

903
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 2: to happen with every coach.

904
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: It's called a lesson.

905
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 2: You've got to learn a lot of me in life,

906
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,479
Speaker 2: Whether you're at a cannick or a head football coach,

907
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 2: You're gonna learn hard lessons. There is no easy way

908
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 2: around it. And there's also no microwave approach. You don't

909
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 2: get to speed it up. A lot of people have

910
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 2: sped the trajectory of their career advancement up, like, for instance,

911
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 2: Ryan Day or Kirby Smart or Lincoln Riley. These guys

912
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 2: are first time head coaches at some of the most

913
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 2: premier programs on the face of the earth. That doesn't

914
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 2: mean that just because they got those jobs way earlier

915
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 2: than you would have in nineteen eighty four, that they

916
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 2: all of a sudden are immune to having to learn

917
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 2: the same lessons that the old school coaches had to learn.

918
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 2: The difference is you got to learn it in front

919
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 2: of the world at Ohio State, whereas Nick Saban learned

920
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 2: his lessons at what Toledo or wherever he was way

921
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 2: out of the spotlight long before he was ever even

922
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 2: at Michigan State, much less LSU and Alabama.

923
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: All the big.

924
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 2: Time coaches have to learn and right now Ryan Day

925
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 2: is learning about proper approaches in hiring practice, and he

926
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 2: knows whiffed he whiffed on Kerry comp Cary comes as

927
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 2: a great guy and he has a spot on a

928
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,879
Speaker 2: football staff, not as a defensive coordinator. I think Ryan

929
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 2: Day is telling you that right here and right now.

930
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 2: But from an operational standpoint, what he means when he's

931
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: saying that is I call the offense. This is not

932
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: a CEO type on game day. Ryan Day's calling the offense.

933
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 2: He can't be wasting a second having to dip into

934
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 2: defensive calls and huddles and get on the sideline and.

935
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: Trying to rectify stuff.

936
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 2: He can't be doing that if he were a guy

937
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 2: who was headset on or off, doesn't really matter.

938
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: I'm just overseeing things here. That's one thing. I mean.

939
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 2: Imagine asking your offensive coordinator to get involved with some

940
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 2: defensive strategy over here.

941
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: I don't care if you're the head coach or not.

942
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: You don't have time to be doing that.

943
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 2: But it's imperative because you can't do that that you

944
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 2: hire folks you can trust and then let them be.

945
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 2: Ryan Day hired someone that he cannot trust and let

946
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 2: be right now. And that was the realization he's come to,

947
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 2: and that's what he's talking about today in this press conference.

948
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 2: It's a hard pill to swallow, but that is the

949
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 2: biggest I think overlook factor of the new age of coaching.

950
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 2: Hires the new age for whatever reason, well the reason's obvious,

951
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 2: they're good. But for for obvious reasons, athletic directors and

952
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 2: administrations they have chosen to circumvent the old approach of

953
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 2: let's find a guy who's cut his teeth and let's

954
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 2: go find someone who's been a head coach at a

955
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 2: couple of stops. That's not the way they do it anymore,

956
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 2: which is fine. I don't think Oklahoma regrets their hiring

957
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 2: of Lincoln Riley. I don't think Ohio State regrets anything.

958
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 2: I don't think Georgia regrets anything. But you also have

959
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 2: to understand you're gonna see some stuff on a very

960
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 2: grand scale that you used to not see head coaches learning.

961
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 2: They used to learn it way before they were given

962
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 2: the opportunity to coach on that grand a stage. So

963
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 2: that's what's happening with Ohio State right now.

964
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: Now.

965
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 2: They got some games that are going to be off

966
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 2: the national radar right now. If nothing were to change

967
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 2: with them, defensively, I would encourage you.

968
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 1: In fact, let me pause that sentence.

969
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 2: I would encourage you to go to twenty four to

970
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 2: seven sports dot com are Blake Brockermeyer put together a

971
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 2: really good feature today and it's broken down in gift form,

972
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 2: which is just a small video clip of plays, and

973
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 2: he put five or six of them in there to

974
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 2: show you how fundamental the breakdowns were the other day.

975
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: That's why I don't even worry about talent.

976
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: Like a lot of people are questioning, is that Ohio

977
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 2: State defense is talented as the recruiting rankings.

978
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: Would indicate it.

979
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 2: Independent of what your answer is there, that's not a

980
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 2: talent issue. You go read that piece and you look

981
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 2: at that feature, or if you just watch the game

982
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 2: with your own eyes Saturday, those were far more fundamental issues.

983
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 2: I don't really care how many stars or you do

984
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 2: or do not have on your defense. That wasn't what

985
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 2: the problem was for them Saturday. And so now we're

986
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 2: gonna look at them moving forward, and I'm telling you,

987
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 2: if they don't get those kinds of fundamental situations rectified,

988
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 2: there are more teams that could hang thirty plus on them.

989
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 2: I know they may look inferior on a schedule, but

990
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 2: when you got the kind of fundamental problems Ohio state's

991
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 2: had defensively. There are a lot of teams out there

992
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 2: that have no business scoring on you, that'll end up

993
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 2: scoring on you. So fingers crossed for our Buckeye fans,

994
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 2: we get things wrecked. Fight up there, all right, JP

995
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 2: pole time. Let's so, here's what we're gonna do, brand

996
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 2: new Week three edition of the JP poll.

997
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 1: Out.

998
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 2: As we normally do, we like to count it down

999
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 2: twenty five to one, and we hurry through it. And

1000
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 2: so what I want to do is, let's start at

1001
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 2: twenty five because we have some new entrance into the poll.

1002
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 2: We have some teams that have dropped out. I can

1003
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 2: go ahead and spoil this for you. LSU is not

1004
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 2: in the top twenty five this week, but UCF is.

1005
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 2: They're up six spots from last week. This is, by

1006
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 2: the way, a power rating, not a ranking. Don't care

1007
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 2: what your resume says. We only put this together based

1008
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,919
Speaker 2: on forward thinking modeling and approach of who we would

1009
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 2: favor against two on a neutral field. Today, UCF is

1010
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 2: at number twenty five. Kentucky. I don't know why the

1011
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 2: aph you guys, but we don't. We love you, and

1012
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 2: we have our big blue hearts wide open and we

1013
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 2: have put Kentucky at twenty four. Well, the model did.

1014
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like we just did it out

1015
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 2: of charity. Other're up eight spots. That's one of the

1016
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 2: biggest risers of the week. We've got from twenty three

1017
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 2: to twenty one. Auburn, Miami, Miami, and Utah. Miami's kind

1018
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 2: of just sat there in the low to mid twenty

1019
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 2: range fours so far. All right, let's go top twenty here.

1020
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 2: Utah very interesting. They lost the model did not really

1021
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 2: punish them all that much for it. So TCU is

1022
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 2: down a couple spots. They're at number twenty. I think

1023
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 2: the biggest riser of the week was Arkansas and they're

1024
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 2: at nineteen. I want to stress this is not a

1025
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 2: classic ap pole reaction where you just vault a team

1026
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 2: calls they won impressively. Yes, Arkansas won impressively, but there

1027
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 2: is a very very tightly compacted hodgepodge of teams to

1028
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 2: where Arkansas, if we just improved them two and three

1029
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 2: quarter points in a power rating, that's enough in this

1030
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 2: area of the poll to jump ten or eleven spots,

1031
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: and that's what they did. North Carolina is at eighteen.

1032
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 2: UCLA is at seventeen. I want to tell you had

1033
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 2: a little error last week. So I had LSU at

1034
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 2: twenty and UCLA unranked last week.

1035
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: It was supposed to be inverted.

1036
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 2: We were supposed to have UCLA at twenty and LSU unranked.

1037
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:57,919
Speaker 1: That was my bad.

1038
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 2: So we've rectified that CLA even though they didn't play there.

1039
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 2: They are now. They are in the poll they were

1040
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 2: last week. Really, they're at number seventeen. Iowa State drops eight.

1041
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about it. It's only going

1042
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 2: to make me angry, but they're at number sixteen, Top fifteen. Time,

1043
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 2: here we go. The Notre Dame Fighting Irish did not

1044
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 2: love what we saw the other day, nor did the model.

1045
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 2: They have dropped four spots. They are at number fifteen.

1046
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 2: Iowa is a big mover. They are at number fourteen.

1047
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 2: Our concern from a power rating, forward thinking, predictive standpoint

1048
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,240
Speaker 2: is can they continue to force turnovers to the degree

1049
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 2: they have open in a question we'll see thirteen Michigan

1050
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 2: good jump there. There is a very specific blueprint there

1051
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 2: following They are not going to be able to overpower

1052
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 2: teams that can throw the ball effectively.

1053
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: But there aren't a whole lot of those teams out there.

1054
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 2: So you know Michigan right now, I think justifiably so

1055
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: at number thirteen. Wisconsin's at twelve, unchanged, Florida is at eleven.

1056
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 2: That almost gives us a top ten matchup, by the way,

1057
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 2: with Bama and Florida. And now here we go speaking

1058
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 2: of the top ten, Texas A and is down four.

1059
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 2: This is an adjustment that takes into account the quarterback situation.

1060
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 2: A and M's roster talent still has them in the

1061
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 2: top ten. It's going to be tough for them. A

1062
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 2: couple of weeks they play Arkansas, it's going to be

1063
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 2: tough for him. We like them to roll this week

1064
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 2: against New Mexico so much so that we put him

1065
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 2: in the Ramannudle Express.

1066
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: Number nine is old myths.

1067
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 2: We have had the Rebels in the top fifteen since

1068
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 2: the inception of this poll. This year, Number eight, Cincinnati,

1069
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,280
Speaker 2: number seven. We dropped Ohio State four spots.

1070
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,240
Speaker 1: That is rare. This high in this pole, that is rare.

1071
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 2: And elsewhere there have not been big moves inside the

1072
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 2: top seven or six, but we've got Ohio State there.

1073
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 2: Oregon is actually ahead of Ohio State. What hurts the

1074
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 2: Ducks and What would have had him higher is the

1075
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 2: loss of Justin Flow because we value him at around

1076
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 2: three quarters of a point, which doesn't sound like much,

1077
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 2: but for an individual player rating.

1078
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: It's a lot.

1079
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,439
Speaker 2: It's especially for a defensive player, it's a whole lot.

1080
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 2: So we got to Orgon at number six, top five.

1081
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,439
Speaker 2: Penn State is all the way at number five, which

1082
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 2: even I can believe, and we started him inside the

1083
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 2: top ten. Needless to say, the power rating model side

1084
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 2: of this would have a little bit of a drop

1085
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 2: off from four to five. So four three two one

1086
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 2: it is Clemson, Oklahoma, Georgia and Alabama.

1087
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 1: There is about a four or.

1088
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 2: Five point drop off between number two and number three.

1089
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what this starts to have early

1090
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 2: shades of It's way too soon to draw this conclusion,

1091
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 2: but I remember how twenty eleven started to take shape,

1092
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 2: and I remember how there were two SEC teams that

1093
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 2: just kept distancing themselves from the pack, and it was

1094
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 2: Bama and LSU in that year, Georgia and Alabama. As

1095
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 2: far as the early season, the first quarter of the

1096
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 2: season goes, they have that separation. They got about a

1097
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 2: five or six point separation right now, over the rest

1098
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 2: of the field. I expect that gap to close, but

1099
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 2: that's where it is right now. As I said, Lsu

1100
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 2: out and Kentucky in. Also good to see Arkansas in.

1101
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 2: So there is some movement and there's a lot of

1102
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 2: movement going on right now. Again, renaissance here means a

1103
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 2: whole lot of movement in the jpeople, and that's a

1104
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 2: good thing. So there's the final top ten again if

1105
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 2: you're listening on pod Bama, Georgia, Oklahoma, Clemson, Penn State, Oregon,

1106
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 2: Ohio State, Cincinnati, Ole, Miss and Texas A and M.

1107
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: And now let's move on.

1108
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 2: As we close today's show, we cannot do it without

1109
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 2: mentioning our latest addition to the Rama Noodle Express. So

1110
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 2: quickly what I've already handed out, I've given you Texas

1111
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 2: A and M minus twenty five and a half. The reason, guys,

1112
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,919
Speaker 2: that it is so imperative to be following on Twitter

1113
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,240
Speaker 2: and Instagram is because as soon as those lines post

1114
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 2: on Sunday, I put out our really really early best bets.

1115
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 2: And I do it because by the time we go

1116
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 2: on air even Sunday night, some of those numbers will

1117
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 2: have changed. Case in point, I released A and M

1118
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 2: at twenty five and a half. By the time we

1119
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 2: got on air Sunday night, it was at twenty eight

1120
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 2: and a half. So we got Aggie's minus twenty five

1121
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 2: and a half, Kansas State plus two and a half

1122
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 2: at home against Nevada. We also have Penn State minus

1123
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 2: four and a half, and that is obviously at home

1124
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 2: against Auburn.

1125
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:05,240
Speaker 1: That's the game we're going to be at.

1126
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 2: The latest addition here is Virginia Tech plus three at

1127
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 2: West Virginia. That is an early kickoff. I think that's

1128
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 2: a I think that's a twelve noon kickoff. The graphic

1129
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 2: there says minus three. This is Virginia Tech plus three.

1130
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 2: Hoky's getting points. So, in conclusion, the four we've handed

1131
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 2: out so far A and M minus twenty five and

1132
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 2: a half, Kansas State plus two and a half, Penn

1133
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 2: State minus four and a half, and Virginia Tech plus three.

1134
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,280
Speaker 1: We will be making more moves.

1135
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 2: Make sure also that you are I don't know how

1136
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 2: to phrase this kind of hanging out late Friday night,

1137
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 2: round eleven, twelve o'clock Eastern time for our super secret

1138
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 2: management can't know about it, late night gambling chat on

1139
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 2: Instagram Live. That's been really fun. And we hand out

1140
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 2: a lot of leans that were not actually you know,

1141
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 2: making official plays, So make sure you're following.

1142
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: That's the grand theme of the story there. Thank you

1143
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 1: so much for watching tonight.

1144
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 2: We got a really lively live chat there. I just

1145
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 2: gave you guys cotructions for director Colin, for Jesse and

1146
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 2: Company in Connecticut.

1147
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: I'm Josh Paatee.

1148
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 2: Have yourselves a great rest of your evening.

1149
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Speaker 1: We will see you Thursday. Until then, God bless