WEBVTT - Kurt Schlichter - How to Win Wars Again 0:00:11.657 --> 0:00:14.937 You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure 0:00:14.937 --> 0:00:17.577 you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeart Radio app 0:00:17.857 --> 0:00:20.937 or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to the Buck 0:00:20.977 --> 0:00:25.457 Sexton Show. In this episode, our friend Kurt Schlichterer is 0:00:25.577 --> 0:00:29.217 making an appearance, which is very exciting. He is a lawyer, 0:00:29.697 --> 0:00:34.057 a veteran, an author, a columnist at townhall dot com, 0:00:34.097 --> 0:00:38.697 and just general ass kicker and patriotic American. Kurt. Great 0:00:38.737 --> 0:00:41.777 to have you on, sir, Thanks for coming to hang out. Well, Buck, 0:00:41.817 --> 0:00:45.577 you forgot sexual powerhouse. I mean, you did tell me 0:00:45.617 --> 0:00:47.137 that at some point your wife is going to bring 0:00:47.177 --> 0:00:48.937 you a bottle of wine. So I figured we would 0:00:48.977 --> 0:00:52.017 have the you know, the life advice for the gentleman 0:00:52.057 --> 0:00:54.137 out there. Once we had. Once you had a couple 0:00:54.137 --> 0:00:56.737 of glasses of wine. Missus schlicht could tell everybody you 0:00:56.777 --> 0:01:00.337 know how the alpha dogs actually roll. I'm just saying 0:01:00.537 --> 0:01:03.057 that's what I've heard. Well, you've seen her, you know 0:01:03.057 --> 0:01:05.177 how hot she is. You and I like share this. 0:01:05.337 --> 0:01:08.657 We just will not tolerate women who aren't of a 0:01:08.737 --> 0:01:11.217 certain standard. Well, I will tell you that I have 0:01:11.297 --> 0:01:13.257 a we have a mutual friend who I don't want 0:01:13.297 --> 0:01:16.537 to I don't know if I have permission to give 0:01:16.577 --> 0:01:19.257 away his secrets, but you and I have a mutual friend. 0:01:19.297 --> 0:01:20.737 You probably know who it is. Just for me saying this. 0:01:21.137 --> 0:01:23.377 Who has a theory that you basically can't trust a 0:01:23.417 --> 0:01:27.577 guy who doesn't have a hot wife. Now, as long 0:01:27.577 --> 0:01:30.497 as the guy thinks his wife is hot, that counts, right, 0:01:30.537 --> 0:01:33.177 It's all about that. But you can't trust a guy 0:01:33.217 --> 0:01:35.057 who doesn't have a hot wife. That's or who doesn't 0:01:35.057 --> 0:01:36.817 believe he as a hot wife. That's his theory. I 0:01:36.857 --> 0:01:40.377 always think that's an interesting case study. Why would you 0:01:40.457 --> 0:01:42.897 Why would you settle for anything less than the best? 0:01:42.937 --> 0:01:46.297 You're a man, damn it, you're a man. There you go. 0:01:47.377 --> 0:01:49.977 So we could get into a dating advice for the 0:01:50.257 --> 0:01:52.617 younger male portion of the audience later on the program, 0:01:52.737 --> 0:01:54.937 Like I said, Kurt asked me. He's like, He's like, 0:01:54.977 --> 0:01:57.257 can I smoke? Can I drink? Can I drink a cigar? 0:01:57.537 --> 0:02:00.137 That would be crazy? Can I smoke a cigar? Can 0:02:00.217 --> 0:02:02.817 I drink some scotch? During this? And I was like, Kurt, 0:02:02.937 --> 0:02:05.337 you you roll however you want, buddy. This is Kurt's world. 0:02:05.377 --> 0:02:08.817 We're just trying to film it um and and we'll 0:02:08.817 --> 0:02:10.817 get into some of that stuff. I can I ask 0:02:10.817 --> 0:02:12.777 you about some real stuff though for a second first, 0:02:12.777 --> 0:02:14.137 because like there are a lot of people coming here 0:02:14.177 --> 0:02:16.377 that we want to have news content analysis. You're very 0:02:16.417 --> 0:02:22.657 smart man. You come from the old school, Cold War era, 0:02:23.137 --> 0:02:26.657 thump it out with the bad guys with tanks. We're 0:02:26.697 --> 0:02:30.297 talking order of battle stuff. We're talking about how many, 0:02:30.537 --> 0:02:34.697 how many, you know, millions of rounds and hundreds and 0:02:34.817 --> 0:02:39.097 thousands of gallons of fuel and you know, massive formations 0:02:39.457 --> 0:02:41.857 to fight the Soviet beasts. So you know you're not 0:02:41.897 --> 0:02:46.697 one of these fancy counterinsurgency guys. Oh. I speak multiple 0:02:46.777 --> 0:02:50.017 languages of the natives, and I read books and sit 0:02:50.057 --> 0:02:52.537 around and try to win the hearts and minds. You're like, boom, 0:02:52.577 --> 0:02:58.617 we're dropping bombs on you. Howsovo after nine to eleven, 0:02:58.737 --> 0:03:01.617 which you know, was a lot like a fireman instead 0:03:01.617 --> 0:03:03.457 of getting to put out the fire at the orphanage 0:03:03.457 --> 0:03:05.297 of the old folks. I mean, it's the cat out 0:03:05.297 --> 0:03:08.577 of the tree. What I was at coast of I 0:03:08.577 --> 0:03:11.777 was helping people, you know, start musher arms. It was 0:03:12.097 --> 0:03:14.217 it was. It was not a slam band. But I 0:03:15.177 --> 0:03:18.297 started out in the Cold War. I started out in Germany. 0:03:18.457 --> 0:03:21.737 I was part of NATO. I went to the Gulf Wars, 0:03:21.777 --> 0:03:24.457 part of seventh Corps, end up at seven Core Headquarters. 0:03:24.857 --> 0:03:27.417 I ran a heavily armed car wash at that time. 0:03:28.177 --> 0:03:30.937 After that, got out, went in the reserves, immediately went 0:03:31.017 --> 0:03:34.577 mechanized infantry, which is uh you know. And of course 0:03:34.657 --> 0:03:37.337 being the new lieutenant, I got to be the vehicle guy. 0:03:37.457 --> 0:03:40.057 I got to be the battalion motor officer for a 0:03:40.137 --> 0:03:45.817 heavy battalion. That was just a delight because they break 0:03:45.897 --> 0:03:50.057 all the time. How prepared are we for the possibility 0:03:50.337 --> 0:03:54.177 of a war with a country like either Russia or 0:03:54.297 --> 0:03:58.057 China where they have very large things that can go 0:03:58.177 --> 0:04:00.217 bang to you know what I mean. You know, we've 0:04:00.257 --> 0:04:03.337 been fighting We've been fighting wars for twenty years where 0:04:03.337 --> 0:04:08.817 we have absolute uncontested air superiority from day one, right, 0:04:09.217 --> 0:04:15.897 we have under air attacks and Korea right, absolute technological superiority. 0:04:16.897 --> 0:04:19.417 You know, in most cases, even our guys in Afghanistan 0:04:19.457 --> 0:04:21.457 at Rock had you know, night vision, goggless. Some of 0:04:21.457 --> 0:04:23.817 the you know we can get into like some of 0:04:23.857 --> 0:04:27.337 the Hakani network guys and everything would have. But generally speaking, 0:04:27.657 --> 0:04:30.137 you know, we had much better technology. Are we ready 0:04:30.537 --> 0:04:34.697 if we had to go, you know, Abram's tank muzzle 0:04:34.737 --> 0:04:39.137 to muzzle with Russian tank formations. Are we ready for this? 0:04:39.217 --> 0:04:41.337 I mean, just just to get an understanding of where 0:04:41.377 --> 0:04:44.017 we stand right now with military readiness for the wars 0:04:44.017 --> 0:04:47.577 we may be fighting. I'm not as worried about crew 0:04:47.657 --> 0:04:53.217 to crew fighting as I am about high level leadership. 0:04:55.257 --> 0:05:01.097 Leadership cures a host of illnesses. It is a solution 0:05:01.137 --> 0:05:04.137 to many, many problems, and we don't have it right now. Buck. 0:05:04.177 --> 0:05:06.777 We have a military that has not won a war 0:05:06.937 --> 0:05:10.177 unequivocally in thirty years. We have a military that is 0:05:10.257 --> 0:05:13.697 very concerned with nonsense. You know, I was talking to 0:05:14.017 --> 0:05:16.897 another guy who's associated with war colleges, and he was 0:05:16.977 --> 0:05:19.417 telling me that he would, you know, sit in briefings 0:05:19.617 --> 0:05:22.377 and you know, basic exercises. A bunch of colonels on 0:05:22.417 --> 0:05:26.417 Saturday will brief you on what America's greatest strategic challenge is. 0:05:26.497 --> 0:05:28.657 Then Sunday they'll brief you on what the solution is, 0:05:29.297 --> 0:05:33.257 you know, basic one oh one war collogey stop. Half 0:05:33.257 --> 0:05:35.457 the people will show up and say, our number one 0:05:35.657 --> 0:05:40.857 strategic challenges climate change. Okay, No, our number one strategic 0:05:40.937 --> 0:05:44.697 challenge is Chinese trying to kill US. I am not 0:05:44.857 --> 0:05:48.697 confident in our military leadership today. I think we have 0:05:48.817 --> 0:05:52.457 dropped our standards, taken our eyes off the ball, lost 0:05:52.497 --> 0:05:56.097 our focus. I think if we get into a high 0:05:56.137 --> 0:06:00.977 intense conventional conflict against a peer competitor, and I don't 0:06:00.977 --> 0:06:04.017 think the Soviet are the Russians got Soviets updating myself. 0:06:04.217 --> 0:06:07.297 The Russians are truly a peer competitor at this point, 0:06:07.497 --> 0:06:10.617 though after they rebuild their shattered army they probably will 0:06:10.697 --> 0:06:15.457 be UM. I think I think we're gonna find ourselves 0:06:16.177 --> 0:06:22.137 outgunned an outfought. I think we've milked our our past experience, 0:06:22.297 --> 0:06:24.577 particularly in the Navy. You know, we were the only 0:06:24.617 --> 0:06:27.497 military name of the British, the only Navy that had 0:06:27.537 --> 0:06:31.697 done massive worldwide combat operations. We did that World War Two. 0:06:31.737 --> 0:06:34.337 We lived off that legacy. I know, my family's all Navy. 0:06:34.537 --> 0:06:37.977 I'm the I'm the Green sheep, uh. And we lived 0:06:37.977 --> 0:06:40.297 off that for years and that that's just gone. Now. 0:06:40.297 --> 0:06:47.177 Our ships are running into each other. Are the officer 0:06:47.297 --> 0:06:51.417 corps is a disaster. There's no real focus on combat readiness. 0:06:51.457 --> 0:06:54.817 Soldiers do what commanders check. Commanders are checking wokeness, so 0:06:54.977 --> 0:07:00.417 you get wokeness and it's uh, it's a disaster and 0:07:00.417 --> 0:07:02.817 if we get into a fight, we're going to lose people. Well, 0:07:03.017 --> 0:07:07.217 this is you know, we saw in in a rocket 0:07:07.257 --> 0:07:13.577 Afghanistan excellence at the warfighter level continuously, but with the 0:07:13.817 --> 0:07:17.977 with the idea of a war, a conventional developed world 0:07:18.537 --> 0:07:23.337 conflict now right. I brought up things like ammunition, gasoline, 0:07:23.377 --> 0:07:26.577 because that's what actually matters. You know, who has who 0:07:26.617 --> 0:07:29.177 brings more guns that they can keep in the field, 0:07:29.177 --> 0:07:31.777 that they can fire accurately and feed with MMO and 0:07:31.857 --> 0:07:34.497 you know, all that component of it, which is not 0:07:34.657 --> 0:07:36.897 you know, really what we were doing in these other places. 0:07:36.937 --> 0:07:39.577 I mean I was reading about six months ago. I 0:07:39.577 --> 0:07:42.097 think it was maybe a little more than that. We 0:07:42.097 --> 0:07:47.297 were worried that our ability to provide munitions to Ukraine 0:07:47.457 --> 0:07:50.377 was outstripping our ability to make them. And that's for 0:07:50.457 --> 0:07:54.017 a war we're not even in. Look, the United States 0:07:54.137 --> 0:07:58.937 is one war since the Civil War with two things. 0:07:58.937 --> 0:08:01.777 First of all, our troops are generally excellent. They're generally 0:08:01.777 --> 0:08:04.537 pretty good. You might be able to say at the 0:08:04.537 --> 0:08:08.697 British Army, maybe the German Army Man for man, we're 0:08:08.817 --> 0:08:15.017 better trained, had a more focused professional military traditions. But 0:08:15.137 --> 0:08:18.817 the American soldiers are pretty damn good, but you put 0:08:18.857 --> 0:08:23.657 pretty damn good with endless artillery rounds. You know, the 0:08:23.737 --> 0:08:27.217 Germans would fight the Americans, and they'd be tactically very proficient, 0:08:28.417 --> 0:08:31.097 but every time they shot at Americans, they just get 0:08:31.137 --> 0:08:35.897 pummeled by one five finds. They just get blown to bits, 0:08:36.537 --> 0:08:39.977 and and you can't fight that. We win because we 0:08:40.297 --> 0:08:45.137 mastered logistics. We deliver steal on target. Steal on target 0:08:45.297 --> 0:08:48.017 is not just pulling the cord on a camp, it's 0:08:48.497 --> 0:08:52.337 building the shell, moving the shell. I remember in the Gulf, 0:08:53.777 --> 0:08:56.577 I was at seven Core, Maine, which was the city 0:08:56.617 --> 0:08:59.377 of Hafer Albatine is right off what's called Tabline Road, 0:08:59.497 --> 0:09:01.977 big road running over the north, and I was going 0:09:02.057 --> 0:09:05.657 back towards the town down in through a Waddy, which 0:09:05.697 --> 0:09:09.297 is a big valley, big valley, completely empty, nothing but rocks. 0:09:09.337 --> 0:09:13.857 In the occasion euromastic Lizard. Three days later, I drove 0:09:13.857 --> 0:09:16.977 through that same valley. As far as the eye can 0:09:17.017 --> 0:09:21.137 see was American military material. We moved a city of 0:09:21.337 --> 0:09:26.977 five hundred thousand men from America and Europe to the 0:09:27.057 --> 0:09:29.617 ports and then out in the middle of the desert, 0:09:29.857 --> 0:09:34.257 and then we fought it moving. That is a logistic 0:09:34.297 --> 0:09:39.377 achievement desert Storm, and frankly, we never I can't think 0:09:39.377 --> 0:09:41.857 when they're military that's mastered it. I mean, I think 0:09:42.097 --> 0:09:45.457 the Victorian Desert Storm was probably the height of America's 0:09:45.537 --> 0:09:50.297 undisputed power, but it was a power of logistics. Right, Well, 0:09:50.457 --> 0:09:51.577 what I was gonna say, I mean, by the way, 0:09:51.617 --> 0:09:53.537 there's you know, How to Make War, the book by 0:09:53.697 --> 0:09:56.497 William Morrow, which is now a multiple multiple editions, a 0:09:56.537 --> 0:09:59.297 good basis for our basics for people to get a 0:09:59.337 --> 0:10:01.897 sense of how to make war, what it actually entails, 0:10:01.937 --> 0:10:05.697 and and it is so much and over. Yeah, strategy, 0:10:05.697 --> 0:10:08.297 every strategy is sexy, right, you know, Sunsue and you 0:10:08.377 --> 0:10:11.177 talk about the clouds of wis to uh, you know, 0:10:11.177 --> 0:10:13.777 you talk about all these different people from from history. 0:10:14.097 --> 0:10:16.017 That makes everyone sound fancy and then look at there's 0:10:16.017 --> 0:10:18.177 a lot of insight and interesting stuff from that. But 0:10:18.417 --> 0:10:21.057 you really want to understand how people win wars. You 0:10:21.097 --> 0:10:24.817 look at the greatest military powers in history all had 0:10:25.257 --> 0:10:31.097 superior logistics. Superior logistics. I mean this is this was 0:10:31.137 --> 0:10:32.977 true of even though people don't think of it this way. 0:10:33.017 --> 0:10:38.537 The Mongolia. Mongolians were amazing at siege warfare, which required 0:10:38.697 --> 0:10:43.057 you know, enormous building and construction and coordination. I mean, 0:10:43.217 --> 0:10:47.017 you know, as well as moving and feeding eighty thousand 0:10:47.097 --> 0:10:49.417 men or you know, whatever the size the military was 0:10:49.697 --> 0:10:52.977 that they were talking about on horseback obviously, the Germans 0:10:53.457 --> 0:10:56.617 moving guns that are like bigger than any guns we 0:10:56.697 --> 0:10:58.697 even see now for the First World War. They're doing 0:10:58.697 --> 0:11:00.497 it with some of it on trains, but a lot 0:11:00.497 --> 0:11:03.617 of it with horseback. Obviously, the British, the British Navy. 0:11:03.617 --> 0:11:08.177 I mean, most of the army that Wermark that invaded 0:11:08.377 --> 0:11:12.297 Poland was horse drawn. Its not me, Yeah, you can 0:11:12.377 --> 0:11:16.337 hear about the Parsers, but a ton of it was 0:11:16.617 --> 0:11:19.537 horse drawn. I mean, even when the Ottomans were at 0:11:19.577 --> 0:11:22.377 their peak too. What the Ottomans could do, the reason 0:11:22.377 --> 0:11:25.737 the Ottomans were the pre eminent Western world military power 0:11:25.897 --> 0:11:30.297 for certainly a few hundred years, was they could bring 0:11:30.297 --> 0:11:33.457 more men into the field, feed them with better material, 0:11:33.697 --> 0:11:37.497 better training, and better logistics support for them than anybody 0:11:37.577 --> 0:11:40.977 else by far, like no one else even close to 0:11:41.137 --> 0:11:42.737 being able. Now, you know, a lot of that was 0:11:42.777 --> 0:11:47.137 the logistics of or the the advantage of having Constantinople, 0:11:47.177 --> 0:11:51.577 which is the single probably most advantageous real estate you 0:11:51.617 --> 0:11:54.257 could have had in the entire certainly entire Mediterranean world, 0:11:54.297 --> 0:11:56.897 but of course it was the Romans who really built 0:11:56.937 --> 0:11:59.097 that up. And of course we still you can go 0:11:59.217 --> 0:12:03.257 swalk on a Roman road today. Yeah, and it's better 0:12:03.297 --> 0:12:08.177 than most roads in our third world cities in Blue America. 0:12:08.257 --> 0:12:10.497 And this is why, you know, as as I look 0:12:10.537 --> 0:12:13.137 again now at the future and what we'll be able 0:12:13.177 --> 0:12:16.977 to do. Um, Look, our economic pre eminence is really 0:12:17.017 --> 0:12:20.897 what drives our military preeminence, certainly in a conventional conflict. 0:12:21.497 --> 0:12:24.217 And I see what's happening in Ukraine, and I wanted 0:12:24.217 --> 0:12:27.537 to switch and get your sense of where we are 0:12:28.137 --> 0:12:31.097 in We're going to talk strategy now. We've been talking logistics, 0:12:31.097 --> 0:12:34.097 talking strategy here. Here's where here's where I think the 0:12:34.497 --> 0:12:36.857 right tends to be on this um and not including 0:12:36.857 --> 0:12:38.897 Lindsay Graham, who's just like blow it out of the sky, 0:12:39.097 --> 0:12:42.177 went with the Russian claims. I mean, I don't I 0:12:42.177 --> 0:12:44.817 don't understand how the Republican base. I want to meet 0:12:44.817 --> 0:12:49.657 these South Carolina Republican you know, rock solid Republican voters 0:12:50.097 --> 0:12:52.657 who are like Lindsey Graham is my guy. I guess 0:12:52.697 --> 0:12:54.857 it's just habit. But I sit here, I go what 0:12:54.897 --> 0:12:59.217 do you you know anyway, you know, these red states 0:12:59.217 --> 0:13:01.457 get soft because they don't have to fight. You know, 0:13:01.857 --> 0:13:05.457 Republicans in California are pretty hard because we're on our 0:13:06.057 --> 0:13:08.617 back foot all the time. But you get to like 0:13:08.737 --> 0:13:11.657 Texas and if you want to be electeds som you 0:13:11.697 --> 0:13:14.257 gotta be a Republican. Seeing it a lot of soft 0:13:14.377 --> 0:13:18.097 Republicans who should be Democrats in a normal state coming in. 0:13:18.257 --> 0:13:20.137 And then there are things like well, you know, we 0:13:20.217 --> 0:13:24.777 can't really stop groomers. Oh well, school choice is terrible. 0:13:25.177 --> 0:13:28.537 Oh well, ain't gonna be started? Yeah, no, I mean 0:13:28.577 --> 0:13:30.737 you want. I was thinking it's interesting, you know, the 0:13:31.217 --> 0:13:34.457 you could argue like three of the great and great 0:13:34.497 --> 0:13:37.457 I don't mean like good people, but most impactful. Although 0:13:37.497 --> 0:13:38.977 I hate that word. It's not really the way it 0:13:38.977 --> 0:13:42.497 should be used. Impactful. It's not even a word, but 0:13:42.537 --> 0:13:44.977 people use it all the time. Um. I think it's 0:13:44.977 --> 0:13:46.897 probably is considered a word now. But then again, so 0:13:47.177 --> 0:13:48.657 or is like, you know, there's all these things that 0:13:48.657 --> 0:13:52.537 they're changing all the time. Um. Yes, you look at Napoleon, 0:13:53.217 --> 0:13:56.497 sort of the greatest French nationalist of all time from Corsica, 0:13:56.857 --> 0:13:59.737 which is like I know, right, not really Frans like coming. 0:14:00.577 --> 0:14:03.937 You know, Wrench warriors were a delusional teenage girl and 0:14:04.017 --> 0:14:08.017 a Corsican dwarf. You know, he went back and forth 0:14:08.057 --> 0:14:11.057 between Italy and France, right, so it's like, is it 0:14:11.097 --> 0:14:18.537 really France. Um, you had Joseph Stalin, who came from uh, Georgia, 0:14:18.657 --> 0:14:22.097 which is on the frontier of the Russian Russian Empire 0:14:22.137 --> 0:14:26.457 at the time, right, and you have Hitler. Much of 0:14:26.457 --> 0:14:28.977 every of those things of Hitler's being German. Hitler is Austrian, 0:14:29.537 --> 0:14:33.417 which from from the from the sort of frontier, and 0:14:34.057 --> 0:14:37.457 and you know the nationalist ultra nationalist sentiments that came 0:14:37.537 --> 0:14:40.617 from some of these individuals and the way that they 0:14:40.897 --> 0:14:42.377 I just think it's interesting because you know, they grew 0:14:42.457 --> 0:14:45.737 up in places where there was that that friction of 0:14:45.937 --> 0:14:50.497 empire and holding all together. Yeah, that's a good point. 0:14:50.537 --> 0:14:54.017 I mean, you look at somebody like Trajan uh and 0:14:54.137 --> 0:14:57.297 uh he was I believe he was Spanish. He was 0:14:57.337 --> 0:15:00.497 born in Spain. Hold on, I'm gonna get honey, I'm 0:15:00.537 --> 0:15:04.257 gonna get the pizza. This is fine. 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A 0:16:47.017 --> 0:16:49.737 three three four zero four gold A three three four 0:16:49.897 --> 0:16:54.377 zero four g O L D. Kurt Schlichter is back 0:16:54.657 --> 0:16:57.457 and he has his pizza now in hand, which is 0:16:57.497 --> 0:17:00.537 exciting or at least at hand. I love how you 0:17:00.657 --> 0:17:03.697 just swing right into a read. Yeah, of course is 0:17:03.697 --> 0:17:05.857 when I guess post for folks, it's the part I 0:17:05.897 --> 0:17:08.937 hate the most, but I'm I'm a pro man. That's 0:17:09.017 --> 0:17:10.737 you know, you got you got your space and the 0:17:10.777 --> 0:17:13.457 time you're dead no dead air, no dead air even 0:17:13.497 --> 0:17:15.177 on the podcast. That's how we roll. By the way, 0:17:15.457 --> 0:17:20.577 I heard a dog pizza because I heard wait, wait, 0:17:20.737 --> 0:17:22.617 I got a question. I heard a dog in the background. 0:17:22.617 --> 0:17:24.857 Do you have a dog? What do you what do 0:17:24.857 --> 0:17:29.537 you have? I have a rat like, uh, terrier and 0:17:29.657 --> 0:17:32.417 kind of like a little quarty. Okay, I mean, you 0:17:32.457 --> 0:17:35.977 know it's funny. Um, I'm looking at houses with the 0:17:36.137 --> 0:17:38.337 uh with the wife, you know, we want to actually 0:17:38.337 --> 0:17:39.897 get a house, gonna try to start a family, that 0:17:39.937 --> 0:17:42.137 kind of stuff. And because I've lived in just like 0:17:42.177 --> 0:17:46.177 tiny apartments my whole life, very bachelor style. Um, you 0:17:46.217 --> 0:17:49.577 know it was at one point, yeah, at one point, 0:17:49.657 --> 0:17:52.017 my my very small studio apartment in New York was 0:17:52.057 --> 0:17:55.137 described by a young woman as uh as as looking 0:17:55.177 --> 0:17:59.577 like something that was a shrine to uh, like my 0:17:59.697 --> 0:18:03.177 time in the CIA, and and a sword collection. And 0:18:03.217 --> 0:18:06.897 I was like, what guy in his early thirties who 0:18:06.937 --> 0:18:09.457 lives alone doesn't have a bunch of weapons on the 0:18:09.457 --> 0:18:15.417 wall anyway up there? See for every squad right exactly 0:18:15.697 --> 0:18:18.657 exactly why why why wouldn't I have a saber handy? 0:18:18.777 --> 0:18:20.417 I'm not telling you what's in some of these drawers 0:18:20.457 --> 0:18:23.497 around me. Yeah, but I will say that, she laughs 0:18:23.537 --> 0:18:25.897 to me. Because we go see houses, I always want 0:18:25.897 --> 0:18:27.737 to see the books of the person who lives there, 0:18:28.057 --> 0:18:31.657 like what books they have, and it's just I just 0:18:31.777 --> 0:18:33.577 feel like I can I look at the books and 0:18:33.617 --> 0:18:35.777 I get a sense. I'm like of who lives here 0:18:36.457 --> 0:18:38.817 right away every time. First of all, I know Democrat 0:18:38.857 --> 0:18:41.017 or Republican. And she thinks it's really funny. I mean, 0:18:41.017 --> 0:18:43.017 I've seen your books. We're gonna talk about Inferno and 0:18:43.377 --> 0:18:45.817 you're you know, you're an author, My man, here's an 0:18:45.817 --> 0:18:49.337 author who writes um thrillers. We call it? Is that? 0:18:49.497 --> 0:18:53.257 Is that what we would describe the matter? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:18:53.297 --> 0:18:56.857 I write The People's Republic was the first of the novels, 0:18:57.297 --> 0:19:00.937 and it's back there, and uh, I decided always bored 0:19:01.217 --> 0:19:04.417 right I board reading these novels. They seemed fairy cookie cutter, 0:19:04.577 --> 0:19:06.377 I want to write some of his action pack funny 0:19:06.417 --> 0:19:09.497 and talked about what was going on. So I'm at 0:19:09.617 --> 0:19:12.177 a world where America has a great divorce, half of 0:19:12.177 --> 0:19:14.937 its red, half of its blue, and a guy from 0:19:14.937 --> 0:19:17.177 the Red has to go into Blue America to do 0:19:17.337 --> 0:19:20.937 missions with guns and he carries a Wilson Combat forty five, 0:19:21.297 --> 0:19:24.177 which got me to meet Bill Wilson eventually, who's just 0:19:24.857 --> 0:19:29.217 a badass gunmaker. And then people buy this thing and 0:19:29.297 --> 0:19:31.897 they enjoyed it. Yeah, I'm a funny guy. I'm the 0:19:31.937 --> 0:19:34.297 only O six I know who was ever a stand 0:19:34.337 --> 0:19:37.417 up comic and how to write a joke. And they're 0:19:37.417 --> 0:19:40.617 funny and action packed and interesting. So I write a 0:19:40.657 --> 0:19:46.017 second one and a third one. I'm writing number eight now, Okay, 0:19:46.737 --> 0:19:51.097 Inferno is number seven. It's out and there's so much 0:19:51.137 --> 0:19:54.017 fun to read, and there's so much fun to write. 0:19:54.777 --> 0:19:57.697 And I've sold a tone of these things. They'll be 0:19:57.737 --> 0:20:00.417 in the top hundred of Amazon. And this is just 0:20:01.177 --> 0:20:05.417 I mean, this is just you know, a great use 0:20:05.457 --> 0:20:10.137 of technology because while I do do non fixed and 0:20:10.257 --> 0:20:13.217 frangory with these, I don't have to go and ask 0:20:13.257 --> 0:20:16.697 anybody if they want to publish it. I can publish it, 0:20:17.817 --> 0:20:22.577 and I sold on Amazon, and it's professional quality, and 0:20:24.217 --> 0:20:28.177 it's you know, people love these things, and it's finally 0:20:28.217 --> 0:20:31.697 making some conservative culture well, this is the thing. This 0:20:31.777 --> 0:20:33.057 is the thing that we have to do. I've been 0:20:33.097 --> 0:20:36.057 saying for a while and I to others say this too, 0:20:36.057 --> 0:20:39.057 but I think it needs amplification, right that. You know, 0:20:39.097 --> 0:20:43.657 you think about Tom Wolfe, who I think people would 0:20:43.697 --> 0:20:46.137 would put as a conservative or certainly a more traditionalist 0:20:46.177 --> 0:20:49.937 author Bonfire the Vanities. You can read Bonfire the Vanities, 0:20:49.977 --> 0:20:52.217 which is a great novel. I've actually got it right 0:20:52.217 --> 0:20:54.097 over here on my bookshelf which people can't see. But 0:20:54.177 --> 0:20:56.657 you know, I don't have my credibility shelf behind me. 0:20:56.697 --> 0:20:59.297 It's in front of me right now, but it's still there. 0:20:59.417 --> 0:21:01.057 I just want ever to know I'm not you know, 0:21:01.057 --> 0:21:03.457 I'm calling it out. It's still there. Bonfire the Vanities, 0:21:03.497 --> 0:21:05.737 great book, terrible movie, So don't ever watch the movie. 0:21:05.817 --> 0:21:08.457 Tom Hanks, Goldie not Goalie on um who is in it? 0:21:08.857 --> 0:21:13.097 Tom Hanks and Bruce Willis is in it. And I 0:21:13.137 --> 0:21:15.777 was trying to remember who the female lead was, but anyway, UM, 0:21:15.817 --> 0:21:17.817 not a good remember either. Yeah, the book was. The 0:21:17.857 --> 0:21:20.537 book is excellent though, but you you can read that 0:21:20.617 --> 0:21:23.297 book and you understand that we just sort of go 0:21:23.337 --> 0:21:28.577 through cycles here with with Democrat urban politics and the 0:21:28.617 --> 0:21:32.457 way the city machinery works, and the way the newspapers 0:21:32.497 --> 0:21:35.817 and the narrative and racial politics and all this stuff 0:21:35.897 --> 0:21:41.457 comes together. We need more people creating things in that space. 0:21:41.497 --> 0:21:43.497 And I say this is somebody who does like traditional 0:21:43.617 --> 0:21:46.937 news talk radio every day. Um, obviously I think I 0:21:46.977 --> 0:21:49.097 have a particular take on it. Or I've been good 0:21:49.137 --> 0:21:52.097 at it, so I you know, I love what I do. Um, 0:21:52.537 --> 0:21:54.497 but I do want to actually do some of that 0:21:54.537 --> 0:21:56.257 other stuff. I mean, if I had my brothers, I'll 0:21:56.257 --> 0:21:58.057 just tell you this, right, we nerd out together here 0:21:58.057 --> 0:22:01.097 for a second, just you, me and the you know 0:22:01.137 --> 0:22:03.097 the there's gonna be like hundreds of thousands of people 0:22:03.097 --> 0:22:04.617 when all of sudden done. You're gonna listen to this 0:22:04.657 --> 0:22:06.457 at least watching. We need more people to watch. 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