1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants Hole on Giants 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: dot Com, the Giants Mobile, the Giants Podcast Network. Merry Christmas, everybody, 3 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: and welcome to another episode of the Giants Hottle podcast. 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: Today it's our game preview, the Giants getting ready to 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 1: travel the Philadelphia to take on the Philadelphia Eagles. All right, 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: we have three interviews coming your way today. I'm gonna 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: talk to Giants rookie Edge rusher zz Ojilarie has always Bought, 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: Papatos head coach, Joe Judge and lands Meadow and Paul Detino. 9 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: Speak to South Palestonio who covers the NFL for ESPN 10 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: with a focus on the Philadelphia Egos. And of course 11 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: you can find sal on the Edge NFL matchup show, 12 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: which could also be found on ESPN. He does that 13 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: with great coseel um. It does a great job. Make 14 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: sure you guys go and check that out. Just to reminder, 15 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: you can find the Giants Little Podcast at Giants dot Com, 16 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: Slash Podcast at Giants Mobile app, but all your favorite 17 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: podcast platforms. Find the subscribe fair Apple podcast. Please have 18 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: a five star positive review and if you have friends 19 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: that are Giant fans, tell a friend and you don't 20 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 1: let them sign up for the podcast if you think 21 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: they'll enjoy it. All right, let's get to it. I'm 22 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: gonna lead off with my conversation with Giants rookie A 23 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: rush your zz glarise, thanks for being with us, man, 24 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: how are you I'm going I'm doing good man. Thanks 25 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: for having me than thanks for being with us. So 26 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna start really basic. Do you still feel like 27 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: a rookie? I mean that I want to say, yeah, 28 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: I'm definitely still a rookie, definitely, but a little bit well, yeah, 29 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: obviously you have to say that because in that will 30 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: come get you. I get that. But when you're out 31 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: there on the field, though, like, do you feel like 32 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:33,199 Speaker 1: you're past that? I'm a rookie, still trying to figure 33 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff out. Have you gotten past that 34 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: part of it? At least? Yeah? I think I feel 35 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: like I'm growing every week. I feel like I'm getting better. 36 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: I'm definitely uh, definitely uh. The flow of the games 37 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: getting grasping away more better and I'm getting to field now, 38 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: definitely moving better. What do you think some of the 39 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: things like that have really clicked for you as you've 40 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: gotten more experienced throughout the year and just see more things. Yeah, 41 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: I just understanding how the game is playing, how fast 42 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: it is, and actually move, being able to adapt to 43 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: it and move and play at play at high level 44 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: with it. You know what, It's good on good everyone 45 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: out there. It's going hard trying to make plays and 46 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: you know, just trying to make plays every player you 47 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: can make. How much of that is not that you 48 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: weren't obviously doing this when you were in college, but 49 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: learning how to watch film and prepare as an NFL 50 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: player versus what you were doing in college and then 51 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: having that translate to the field. Yeah, it's big because 52 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 1: every game in this league go down to the wire, 53 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: the last player of the game, the last two minutes, 54 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: like every single players game and inches, every single play matters. 55 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: So watch a film, what you could, whatever you can 56 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: get that edge on your opponent. To use this to 57 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: your advantage is just key. Is big you just so 58 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: you gotta keep watching it and just using it as advantage. 59 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: Do you find that what NFL offenses are doing in 60 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: the amount of preparation you have to do is a 61 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: lot more and more complicated than what you did at 62 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: Georgia or is it very similar? Because I know they 63 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: run a very pro style system there anyway. Yeah, facts, 64 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: you know, I say, just getting just watching more film 65 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 1: the film watch you just say, it's way definitely, way more, 66 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: you know, just breaking it down to the detail, each opponent, 67 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: each player knowing your opponent, basically knowing your no one's 68 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 1: knowing his identity, you know. So that's the big thing 69 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: for me as an individual player. Where do you think 70 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: you've improved the most this year? Uh? I say, you know, 71 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: just the game. The flow. The flow of the game 72 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: is slow down for me a lot. So I'm just 73 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: playing better, playing faster, and I can see these better. 74 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: You know, I could react faster at this right now, 75 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: at the time we are now. So it's just I'll say, 76 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: you know, I'm just trying. I'm still trying to get better. 77 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: Everything I'll do no matter what it is. So I 78 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: just try to work on all my game all around, 79 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: no matter what. What are some of the things that 80 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: vets that you work with in that room have kind 81 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: of explained to you or talked to you or kind 82 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: of guided you through that you think has really helped 83 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: you along to play as well if you has as 84 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: a rookie, Yeah, definitely, uh, Zoe watching film, Leo hit 85 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: me up on the field. We work together, pass rush stuff. 86 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: So just listen to the older guys, you know, because 87 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: they've been in the lead for a while. Taking every 88 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: piece information I can from them is key for me 89 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: as I continuing to grow and just get better every 90 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: single day. So listening to him is a big key. 91 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: You know, footwork, hand placement, get off pad level, just 92 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: taking everything I can from each one of those guys. 93 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 1: You know, Joe Judge likes to talk about fundamentals we 94 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: hear from him. I'm sure you guys are just tired 95 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: of hearing it from him, but you have to embrace it, 96 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: right and that's what makes you a better player. So fundamentally, 97 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: where do you think, and now we're getting out of 98 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: the film right now onto the field. Fundamentally, what was 99 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: one of your big focuses this year that you think 100 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: you've made a lot of steps of improvement throughout the 101 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: course of the year. Yeah, Fundamentally, I'll say my mom 102 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: was getting my paths down, get them playing lower, trying 103 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: to just stay low with everything I do because I'll 104 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: be more explosive and faster and I could make more 105 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: of impact. Just keep my path low because I'm you're 106 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: more explosive when you're low. So that was one of 107 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: my main ones, keeping my path level. What's something that 108 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: you're still focused on trying to improve? And I'm sure 109 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: obviously we're still three games left, but as you you know, 110 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: look ahead to your second year, third year, where where 111 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: does this these social are? You say, Man, if I 112 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: could get this, I'm going to be able to take 113 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: my game to the next level. Yeah, I say, you know, 114 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: just keep keep working. You know, I definitely want to 115 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: improve on shedding, getting off blocks, shedding blocks in the 116 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: run game for sure. Just continue to just make a 117 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: bigger impact in that part. Just getting off blocks. That's 118 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: one of my main ones, getting off blocks. You know, 119 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: one thing I've talked to a bunch of guys in 120 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: your position that go from college to the pros, and 121 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: the one thing that the guys tell me a lot 122 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: is that the best offensive lineman I may be faced 123 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: in college is almost every offensive line and I face 124 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: in that football week. So what has it been like 125 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: taking that jump in competition, you know, where every week 126 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: you're facing a guy that would have been an All 127 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: American in the SEC. Facts, Yeah, every week is a 128 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: challenge and it's I'm up for it and I love 129 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: it like that way, you know, just ready to get 130 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: after who's in front of me, the challenges all you know, good, 131 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: all good, no matter what it is. You know, just 132 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: trying to tackle every single play because I know I'm 133 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: gonna get their best, so I'm gonna bring it to 134 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: him every single play. Good on good, trying to get 135 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: trying to beat him every time you step on the field. 136 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: Does that force Does that force you to enhance your game? Though? Yes? 137 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: It does, you know because you know someone across from 138 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: you trying to beat you every rep. So while you 139 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: have to match them, you gotta or go beyond above 140 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: what he's trying to do. So it definitely makes you 141 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: bring the intensity every week in the same way. You 142 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: know in practice every week you get to go against 143 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: Andrew Thomas, your teammate. Obviously you have Nate Solder has 144 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: been doing this forever. You know, Matt Parents are really 145 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: good athlete. You still figuring things out. How how do 146 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: you guys work together to try to improve one another 147 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: throughout the week competing then they'be talking afterwards trading Oh 148 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: when I do this, you do that? This gives me trouble. 149 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: How do you guys kind of work together to improve 150 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: one another. Yeah, we definitely work together. Is just love. 151 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: You know. It's nice because to be able to talk 152 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: to your office, to your teammates office line, and what 153 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: they see, what I'm doing to them, they see, they 154 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: give it to me. They see tell me about what 155 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: other guys do to them to try to get in 156 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: the stop what they don't like. And we try to 157 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: use all that and take it and use it as 158 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: at my advantage, just learning off each other as teammates 159 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 1: and try to use it against other teams, you know. 160 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: So we just gotta come out here work every single 161 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 1: day practice, are trying to get better at working with 162 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: each other, good on good every single day, so you 163 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: get you get different things from each player, you know, 164 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: so everyone's not the same. So it's good to get 165 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: that work against those guys. You know. You mentioned Leonard 166 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: Williams a little bit earlier, and what what does it 167 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: mean to a team in a group when you see 168 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: a guy like that when he comes out of the 169 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: game the week before, he's like his TRICEEPS is like 170 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: falling off his right and then he goes out there 171 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: and look, record is what the record is, You guys 172 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: aren't competing for a playoff spot. That he goes out there, 173 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure played through a lot of pain and he's 174 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: a heck of the game. What does that show younger 175 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: guys like you and you see a veteran that's already 176 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: gotten his money, gotten his contract, right, just still go 177 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: out and do that, right man? Just the love of 178 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: the game, that the heart he asked for the game. 179 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: What you know, the respect for him? Man? I just 180 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: I love Leo's older brother for real, Like man, He's 181 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: a real one, And just just seeing him just go 182 00:07:58,120 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: out there and continue to fight for this team just 183 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: makes you want to just fight and play hard for him, 184 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: even though he's halfway still hurt. It just wants me 185 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: to just go out there. Are you fully healthy? Why 186 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: why not go harder for him? For your brother? And 187 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: why not play places that you can't you know. So 188 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: it's just seeing that this motivasis fires up to just 189 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: keep going hard and play play, play fast and physical 190 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: in the same way. How do you think the message 191 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: from the coaching staff, And that's something I think we've 192 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: seen with Joe Judge's teams the last two years. The 193 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: record maybe not what you want. But every week you 194 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: see the team come out and they play hard. Can 195 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: you just talk about the attitude and general environment and 196 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: culture that you guys have in that locker room that 197 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: you think just permeates everything. Yeah, we're family, you know, 198 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 1: it's our job. That's what we do. You gotta love 199 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: the game. You gotta go out there and play it 200 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: hard every single game, no matter what it is, whatever 201 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 1: what the circumstances are. You gotta go out there, ball out, 202 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: do play your game. And you don't put everything on 203 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: the line. You don't want putting no bad film on 204 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,599 Speaker 1: tape or nothing. So you gotta go out there be 205 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: you play the game you love. You know, if you 206 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: love it, you gotta shows you love it. Play, play 207 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: with your heart. Best case scenario, if I give you 208 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: the option, you're standing up the rush or your three 209 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: points dancing to rush. What do you like better? For me? 210 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: I'll go three point stands because I feel like I'm 211 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 1: lower and I'm just getting straight off shooting like a jet. 212 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: But you know it don't really matter. I could. I'm 213 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: really comfortable with both, but I'll say me, I prefer 214 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: three get down to go like I'm going to track 215 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: stands alright, do you like lining up over the left 216 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: tackle at right end or do you like lining up 217 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: over the right tackle left end? Or do you not care? 218 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter with me. I go either side, Just 219 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: get to the quarterback. Are you more comfortable on either 220 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: side because I know you've lined up on both the 221 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: most people. Mostly I'm on the left, but usually right 222 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: because I'm left hand it. Oh, I know that you're left. Huh? 223 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: All right, so if you're a left hand dominant, then 224 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: you would want to line up over the right tackle correct, well, 225 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: depending on how you want to do it right right here, 226 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: But either way, I'm cool. Good either. You know people 227 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: say sacks coming bunches. That's your cliche, right, and that's 228 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: how we do this. I think you've had three multi 229 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: sack games, if I'm not mistaken, right. Why do you 230 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: think that happens? Where you know, once you get one, 231 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: you get another one? Is that because just in that 232 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 1: particular game, the matchup is good against the guy you're 233 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 1: playing against. Is it that the scheme is putting you 234 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: in a good position? Are you just on that day? 235 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: Why do you think the sacks tend to come and 236 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: bunches for you? I think, you know, just keep rushing, 237 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: no matter we just keep going. It's gonna end up coming. 238 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: You just gotta keep going. You don't think about the sack. 239 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: Just keep going. You're gonna get there. You're gonna get 240 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: There's no in the back in head. Yeah, I'm gonna 241 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: get the I'm gonna get there. You get there once. 242 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:30,839 Speaker 1: You want to get there again. You want to beat 243 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: your friend of your teammate there. You want to get there. 244 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 1: Just having that in your back of your mind, just 245 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: like motivates you just keep going hard to get to 246 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: the quarterback. Is that something that you want to be 247 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: more consistent at though, where it's not all just in 248 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: three or four games, where that's spread out more, you're 249 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: being more productive in more games. Yes, sir, definitely, Ah, 250 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: it definitely wants to be definitely consistent. I want to 251 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: make sure consistent every single game, you know, getting to 252 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: the quarterback. And that would be big for sure, being consistent. 253 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: That's a big one. Is that frustrating a pass rusher? 254 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: You know, because a lot of times I'll go back 255 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 1: and I'll watch it. I'm like, he's killed the defender 256 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: on the killed the offensive tackle on that player. But 257 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: the quarterback through it in the second and a half. 258 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: So you might have a game where you actually win 259 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: more don't get a sack. Then maybe you'll get a 260 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: game where you get a sack and a half, but 261 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks happens to scramble on into here, right. Is 262 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: that weird? You know? His fans just look at the 263 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: sacks and like, oh, here a great game. He the 264 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: sack and half. Then you look at the tape and 265 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: you're like, you know what, I had one tackle for loss, 266 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: no sacks, and an assist. But I thought I played 267 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: a damn good game. Yeah, it happens like that, you 268 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: know what I mean. At the end of the day, 269 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: as as long as you're affecting the quarterback making a 270 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: move out the spot, you know, whatever we could do 271 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: to affect them to help our team out get this win. 272 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: And that's that's the main thing, you know, just affect 273 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: the quarterback, whatever we could do, pressures bad at balls, 274 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: you know, just getting to move out the spot as 275 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: the main thing. You know, Sacks will definitely come though. 276 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Eagles. What did you learn about 277 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: the Eagles team when you played them just four weeks ago? Yeah, 278 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: you know they definitely could run the ball. They definitely 279 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: go try to come back and run the ball on 280 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: this share. You got big weapons all over, great team, 281 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: you know, so we gotta bring it. What you have 282 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: to do better to stop the run because they ran 283 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: for over two guys a month ago. Yeah, we just 284 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: gotta come in and play as a unit. Everyone playing 285 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: on one, no one for ones. Everybody sink in and 286 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: what we got going on, and we just gotta stop 287 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: and play physical, get off blocks and share blocks, you know, 288 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: finished on the tackle. Yeah, I think the challenge right 289 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: when I watch them on tape. They do the read 290 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: options stuff right there, the r p O stuff. Um, 291 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: they run inside with Jordan Howard, who's kind of that 292 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: big between the tackles guy. Then they'll do the outside 293 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: zone with Miles Sanders. Boy, their offensive line compolled to right. 294 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: These guys are athletic to get to the second level. 295 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: So when the team has that type of variety in 296 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: the run game where they can do it in a 297 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: lot of different ways, how does that present the challenge 298 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: for you guys to try to stop them. Yeah, we're 299 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: built for it, but you know, everyone just gotta be 300 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: on their own on their job on their a game. 301 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: You know, you gotta do your job player part, and 302 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:56,719 Speaker 1: know the call echo with out communicate is big, so 303 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: we all make sure we're all on the same page 304 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 1: already you know, already stop it. And then obviously this 305 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: oneing you defended a lot in college. Jalen Hurts with 306 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: the read option right, the guy can run like a 307 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: running back. He is a heck of an athlete. He 308 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: leads the team in rushing still right, So as a 309 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: defensive end, and you have to read sometimes right then 310 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: hand off and go what are some of the keys 311 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: without giving out state secrets, what are some of the 312 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 1: keys and things you look for to try to make 313 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: those appropriate reads. Yeah, you know, just try to do 314 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: your job, play a technique the right way, you know, 315 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: state square, don't run up films, you know, and didn't 316 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: handle the rest, make the tackle. And then when you 317 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: rush the pastor right, you want to get to him. 318 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 1: At the same time you want to contain right because 319 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: you don't want him get out of here. So how 320 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: do you balance those two things? Yeah, you know, we 321 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 1: just with the game plan we got you know what 322 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 1: we gotta do. We gotta rush the rush out, we 323 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: gotta rush we can't rush out of whack. We all 324 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: got to be on the same unit, same page, because 325 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 1: we know he could run. He's very loose if you 326 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: can get out of the pocket and make big play, 327 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: so we gotta keep him contained for sure. Final question, Uh, 328 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 1: their offensive line. We don't know about Jordan my Lotty. 329 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: He's dealing with an ankle. But dudes like six three 330 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 1: guys a monster lane, Johnson's all pro. What are the 331 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: challenges those two guys give you as a pass rusher 332 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 1: coming off that edge? Yeah? Man, I mean those guys 333 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: are great, good players, you know. So it's great good, 334 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: all good. Every single day. I go and get good 335 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: players here every day, Drew Nate Soldier man. So it's like, 336 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: you know, it's just another challenge. You're ready to face 337 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: it and go out there and compete with the best 338 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: of the best. Why not take the opportunity? And you 339 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: know they're big guys, long arms, athletic, so you know, 340 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: why not take the opportunity to go against all pro? Yeah, 341 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: and when you have to set the edge against guys 342 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: like that, what are some of the we talked about 343 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: rushing the past, all right, what are some of the 344 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: keys to setting the edge against great players like that, 345 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: so you keep that contained. In the run game, I say, 346 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: you just get off the ball great knocked back and 347 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: playing with extension on them. Can't get all in there 348 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: the chance. Just keep your extension knocked back. You gotta 349 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: be physical. Finally, go to pass rush move. When I 350 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: watched you in college before the draft, I thought you 351 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: were great at knocking that outside hand down and getting around. 352 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: Is that still your go to or do you got 353 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: some more tricks in the box that you're working on. Yeah, 354 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: I'm working on different booths every every week. You know. 355 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: It's just trying to learn every single as I keep 356 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: going in my careers, to keep going. But definitely, I 357 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: say my favorite move is the staff club. The long 358 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: arm with the club, that's my favorite. And then you 359 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: dip around the edge and get to the queue dipping rep. Baby, 360 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: you gotta like it, my man disease. Good stuff. I 361 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Best luck against the Eagles, Thank you very much. 362 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: Appreciate that's Giants rookie edge rusher or Z's Ojulari. Hey 363 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: Giant fans, secure season tickets for the two season now 364 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: for on the one hundred bucks limited seats available. Speak 365 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: with the Giants ticket representative now and become a season 366 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: ticket member by calling eight N y G. All right, now, 367 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: let's go inside the Philadelphia Eagles in the matchup this 368 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: weekend with South Palestonio from ESPN. Giants wrap up their 369 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: season series with the Eagles on Sunday, as they looked 370 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: to Sweet Philly for the first time since two thousand seven, 371 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: it to get more into the Eagles were now joined 372 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: by ESPN NFL reporter Sal Palantonio, Sally got, Lance Meadow 373 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: and Paul Ta Tito here greatly appreciate the time today, 374 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: Hope poll as well. How's everything on your end? Good 375 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: happy holidays, Merry Christmas to you guys, Same to you, Sal. 376 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: I want to start seal with the rushing attack for 377 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: the Eagles because we were talking about this entering the 378 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: week twelve game with the Giants. That was just when 379 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: Philly really started to emphasize that facet. Seven straight games 380 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: at least a hundred seventy five rushing yards. They were 381 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: very effective against the Giants as well as on Tuesday 382 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: against Washington. How much has that facet, in your opinion, 383 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: been a big part of why they've won four of 384 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: their last five games and are now in wild card contention. Yeah, well, 385 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: you know, it's a big factor, except they blew it 386 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: against the Giants. I mean, they got away from it 387 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: in the first half and went back to it in 388 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: the second half. And I think Nick Sirianny is kicking 389 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: himself because he left Jalen Hurts exposed in that game 390 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: and Jalen Hurts two interceptions up at Metlive Stadium, as 391 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: you hope, and the Giants won the football game, and 392 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: I think everybody in Philadelphia, especially around the Eagles organization, 393 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: is lamenting the fact that they lost that game. The 394 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: Giants played really well defensively, and the Eagles played into 395 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: their hands and and didn't emphasize the run until it 396 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 1: was too late in that football game. As you remember 397 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: Lance and Paul Um and and now you know, comeing 398 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: out of that game, Jalen Hurts tore up his ankle 399 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: a little bit, so he had to miss the game 400 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: against the Jets. Came back last night and what I 401 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 1: thought was a pretty good get back game and a 402 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: courageous performance considering he wasn't a hundred percent. So they 403 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: went into the lab and they changed the blocking scheme 404 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: a little bit to emphasize more of Miles Sanders out 405 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: of the backfield as opposed to the r p O 406 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: s That emphasizes Jalen Hurts his ability to hold the ball, 407 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: keep it and run with it, because he really wasn't 408 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: a hundred percent not a Pugo yesterday. So the Giants 409 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: are gonna see a different running attacked then they saw 410 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 1: in the second half at Mettwife Stadium. I can tell 411 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: you that right now. You know, we talking about that 412 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: running game. Though Salad looks like Jordan Howard over the 413 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: last month has certainly become more of that ground game, 414 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: and he's more of a pounder than Scott, who's that little, quick, 415 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: natty kind of guy. He's like a flyback there and 416 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: he's given the Giants a lot of trouble over the years. 417 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: But Howard seems to have been taking his snaps. Yeah, 418 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: he has. And Paul, you know, the thing about Jordan 419 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 1: Howard is that he's been injured, so he's been in 420 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: and out of the starting line of He only got 421 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: a few carries last night. The home run hitter is 422 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: Miles Sanders over a hundred yards for the second week 423 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: in a row. He's the one who can really has 424 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: he has he has breakaway speed, and you know he 425 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: has also coming off an injury. So you know they've 426 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: got Scott, They've got Sanders coming off an injury, Howard 427 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 1: coming off an injury, and Jaylor Hurts coming off an injury. 428 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: And as a resolve what you saw last night, it 429 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: was a more of a zone read run pass block 430 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: scheme out of Jeff Stoutland and the Eagles UH coaching 431 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 1: staff to try to mitigate the injuries that they have 432 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: on the offensive, on the in the running back and 433 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: the quarterback position. So um, I think that again to 434 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 1: emphasize the clear point and difference between the the game 435 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: at MetLife and this game on Sunday, is this will 436 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 1: be And I'm sure I am sure that your coaching 437 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: staff has seen it. Watched the film last night and 438 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:38,719 Speaker 1: saw the difference that the Eagles. After the game, we 439 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,479 Speaker 1: asked them, Paul, we asked Nick Sirianni what was the difference? 440 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: He wouldn't tell us. And then getting ready for the 441 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 1: matchup show this morning at NFL Films, we plugged at 442 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: the tape and you could see the clear difference in 443 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: the blocking scheme and their approach offensively, sal is it 444 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: worth asking you a generic question about the short week. 445 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: You just talked about how these guys have been kind 446 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: of banged up and now they just played a physical, 447 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 1: tough and if the East rival on Tuesday night with 448 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: a very quick turnaround against another rival, and I gotta 449 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: feel this is gonna be a battle royal. Oh yeah, 450 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 1: These Giants Eagles games are always tough. You know. The 451 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: Giants get up for the Eagles and vice versa. You know, 452 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: and there's also you know, the commingling of the fans, 453 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: and it's you know, they never they never scheduled Giants 454 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 1: at Eagles for four o'clock or the other way around, 455 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 1: because it's just insane that Lincoln Financial Field at four 456 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: o'clock when you have the Giants and Eagles, fans come together, 457 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: and the Giants and Eagles on the field. As you know, 458 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: we've covered many of them together, you and I on 459 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 1: the sideline, and I can tell you, Paul, you're absolutely right. 460 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: You know, an NFL games like five six car Rex 461 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: and you have to get your your body right, in 462 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 1: your mind right, and then you throw Christmas right in 463 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: the middle of it. So I'm interested to see how 464 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: they get back on the field in five days. Have 465 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: a semblance, so the Christmas celebration with their families and 466 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: try to take on a Giant's team that's gonna have 467 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: a lot of motivation as they usually do. You know, 468 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: the one thing that I have seen from Joe Judge's 469 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 1: team is the want to They play hard, They play 470 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: with a lot of energy. Um you know they they're 471 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 1: they're an intense team and uh he was better bring it. 472 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:25,959 Speaker 1: I'll tell you that on Sunday. I don't know what 473 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: the line is, but this is gonna be a tough 474 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: game for Eagles. There are always one score games ball 475 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: sal you brought up the blocking scheme. How that changed 476 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: on the offensive line. One thing that I'm curious about 477 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: is if you remember last season that Eagle's offensive line 478 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: was absolutely plagued by injuries and it was very difficult 479 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: for them to overcome. I think they had the most 480 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: offensive line combinations probably in the league last year, and 481 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 1: as of late, they've had to mix and match because 482 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: Drisco they lost. He's now back on I R. I 483 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: know Lanthon Dickerson didn't play Tuesday because of COVID. Why 484 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 1: do you think they've handled that better this year compared 485 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 1: to last season? Well, they settled on Jordan my Alta 486 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: at the left tackle position, and even though Lane Johnson 487 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: had the mental health episode that kept him out for 488 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: a couple of games, he has not knocked on wood 489 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: been bothered by the ankle injury that he had last year. 490 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: His his ankle was a mess last year. He couldn't 491 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: really put any weight on it. At the end of 492 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: the season, he missed a lot of time. So you 493 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: have the anchors of my Latta and Lane Johnson. Jason 494 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: Kelsey had a hip injury that bothered him last year 495 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: and again knocked on what. I don't want to drink anybody, 496 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: but you know, Jason Kelsey's having a Pro Bowl year. 497 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 1: So those three guys in Landon Nickerson, as you mentioned, 498 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: even though he's been on COVID list for one week, 499 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: he missed his game. Boy boy, what a what a 500 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: find in the second round. Remember he had the d 501 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: injury in the championship game with Alabama. Eagles took a 502 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 1: fire on him in the second round. He also took 503 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: a lot of criticism for it. How Embrosement took a 504 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: lot of criticism and they plugged him in at left 505 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 1: guard six or eight weeks ago and he's been a revelation. 506 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 1: He doesn't have great feet as a past blocker, gentleman, 507 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:20,360 Speaker 1: but he is a terrific run blocker, and he shoots 508 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: exactly and he's smart, motivated, super tough. He has been 509 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: an absolute revelation at the left guard position. So Sally 510 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: Eagles have tried to get some continuity going here. But 511 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: now Nick Serianty this week tests positive under the COVID 512 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: protocol and they're not a short Now if he's going 513 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 1: to be able to coach this thing on Sunday, how 514 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: much of an issue do you think that is? I 515 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: think that's a pretty big issue. You know, he has 516 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: emerged as a real force on the sideline and with 517 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: this football team. This team has his personality and he's 518 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: pretty fiery, he's pretty intense. Um, I'm interested to see 519 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 1: who's gonna take his duties if he can't come back. 520 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: But you know, the interesting thing is, I'm assuming that 521 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: he's vaccinated. I'd be shocked if he learned. I think 522 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: it's required for all coaching staff to be vaccinated, double vaccinated, 523 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: maybe even boosted. So that means, you know, his turnaround 524 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: should be pretty good. But you know, not to conjecture 525 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: or guess about it, Paul. But what we're seeing just 526 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: in the early going and the change in the protocols 527 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: is yes, they want to get him back quickly, but 528 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 1: the tests are so sensitive and this this variant is 529 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: so virulent that it's hard to get guys back like 530 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: they thought they were gonna get back Kyle Allen and 531 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: Door Taylor Heineke. Last night they're ct numbers were going 532 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: in the right direction. They tested on Monday night, he 533 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 1: didn't get off the COVID list. They tested it in 534 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 1: on Tuesday morning at five am. You know, those tests 535 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: are curried up there to North Jersey, that's where the 536 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: lab is. So they had to curry from Ashburn, Virginia 537 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: to North Jersey Monday night and then Tuesday morning. And 538 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 1: they thought Tuesday morning test was gonna come back, and 539 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 1: they kept reading, We looking at the numbers and it 540 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: didn't pass. Didn't pass the test, so remained on the 541 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: COVID list and not available. So the test is super 542 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 1: sensitive and this is a pretty powerful in terms of 543 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: its ability to infect very and even though you may 544 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: not have symptoms. Of the Washington football team that test 545 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 1: depositive did not have symptoms, So I don't know if 546 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: he's gonna be able to come back or not well. 547 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: South To answer your question, I'm looking at reports circulating 548 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: on Twitter as we're recording this interview. It seems to 549 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: indicate that Sirianni has told local reporters that passing game 550 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 1: coordinator Kevin Petulo would be the acting head coach assuming 551 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: he can't come back. He doesn't want to disrupt the 552 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: other coaching assignments. Based on what you know about the TULA, 553 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: how do you think that could very well impact the 554 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: dynamics of this game. Interesting that he picked him because 555 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: Jeff Stoutland is the running game coordinator, right, so Jeff 556 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: Stoutland will have he's the offensive coordinator and excuse me, 557 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 1: the offensive line coach and running game coordinator. And he is, 558 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: you know, he's he's the Jedi Master. He's he's like 559 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: the Tom Moore of that football team. So um, you 560 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 1: know they'll probably split duties, and you know, Stoutlin will 561 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: really be I think in charge of getting in the 562 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: year of of of the coaching staff to make sure 563 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 1: that the right run players are called. But last night 564 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: they really relied heavily and as a pastor twenty of 565 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: twenty six with two drops by god, or he could 566 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: have had a Phil Simms day. What was Phil? It 567 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: was still twenty two or twenty eight that Super Bowl? Paul, 568 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: come on, what was the number? Actually, there's only three drops. 569 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 1: It was only three drops. I remember because mccocky Bavaro. Yeah, 570 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: mccacky Bavaro and Stacy Robinson were the three targets on 571 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: his three incompletions, Yeah, tell me about Well until till 572 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 1: till Simms not in the whole thing right now? He's not. No, 573 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: he's not. He should be in the Hall of still 574 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: Sims to be in the Hall of fame for prying 575 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: out loud And I'm one of the voters and I 576 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: didn't even know that he wasn't in it should be 577 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: And he's one of those guys. If you to say 578 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 1: to me, what guys is not in its should be end, 579 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: it's gotta be sell Simps, then shal I gotta ask 580 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 1: you about this defense. Only twice over the last month 581 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 1: and a half have the Eagles given up more than 582 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: twenty points in a game. What is the key to 583 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: having them tighten that situation down? Well, they you know, 584 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 1: let's go through it one by one, you know, they 585 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: played the back back up quarterback last night and um 586 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: Antonio Gibson had a toe injury very early in the 587 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: game that kind of limited him. So you know, they 588 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: couldn't really rely on Antonio Gibson. And they were missing 589 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 1: Brandon Sureff and they were missing their starting centator Larson, 590 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 1: so that was significant. Jonathan Gannon, the defensive coordinator, did 591 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: not even Blitz last night. He just kept coming at 592 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: him with Hardgrave and funcher Cox right up the middle, 593 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: knowing that Washington was shorthanded on the offensive line. So 594 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: that's one you know that that's the main reason why 595 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: they had no problem. And then they played the Jets 596 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: before that, and then you know, they had some success 597 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: against the Giants offense kept the Eagles offense in the 598 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: game by having success in that game. So it's you know, 599 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: the matchups have been favorable. She knew a very good 600 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: Eagles defensive line and in occasionally, but in my opinion, 601 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: not enough, Jonathan Gannon has dialed up Blitz is specifically 602 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: Paul on third down. What you see is he'll bring Slay, 603 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: he'll bring Epps, he'll bring McLeod for the safety position 604 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: to two of them. And it's been on third down 605 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: and it's been effective, but I don't think he does 606 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: it enough. Um, I think if you've got some truth, 607 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: seramen to Nick Sirianni, he would agree with you. You know, 608 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: Bill Polian always used to tell me when he was 609 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: interviewing pensive coordinators, he would sit them down and say, 610 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: all right, show me your blitz package on third and one, 611 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: third and two, third and three, third and four, and 612 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: go down the list. I want to see your blitz package. 613 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: I want to see it on film. I want to 614 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: see what it looks like. And to me, those defensive 615 00:29:55,440 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: coordinators that can blitz effectively on third dawn with out 616 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: exposing their secondary, well, we're in a lot of games 617 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: in the National Football League. I mean to me, that 618 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: is the key. Absolutely, That's what Mike Peton couldn't do 619 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: last year in the NFC Championship game, it's Brady and White. 620 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: Brady won that game or else I think Aaron Rodgers. 621 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: But what the Super Bowl last year? Well, Salt, speaking 622 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: of the blitz or the lack thereof, based on what 623 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: you had laid out, they only have twenty three sacks 624 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: on the season. That puts them thirty in the NFL. 625 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: And I think over the years. Yeah, of course, but 626 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: we've always looked at the Eagles. I think at previous years, 627 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: sal is the team that they rotate defensive linemen. They 628 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: have a variety of guys right in the sack number 629 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,959 Speaker 1: goes up. Two guys I want to hone in on 630 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: before we let you go, specifically Fletcher Cox and Derek Barnett, 631 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: because you look at their numbers, whether it be from 632 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: a tackle perspective a sack perspective, they only have four 633 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: and a half sacks per uh combined. If you take 634 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: it the consideration they're not blitzing much as you mentioned, 635 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: is it also you think a lack of them winning 636 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: their one on one battles. Why is their production would 637 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: you say dipping across the board here? Well, I think 638 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: number one. If you look at their blitz percentage coming 639 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: into week fifteen, Lance, it was second to last in 640 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: the league, last in the NF suit This guy does 641 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: not blitz enough. It is my opinion and the opinion 642 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: of a lot of people who studied the game. Um, 643 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: you can't rush with four in the NFL for a 644 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: lot of different reasons. They don't go holding as much anymore. 645 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: So that means defensive coordinators have dialed up the blitz. 646 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: You look at teams that act one day recently, but 647 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: Bowls Tampa, He's a blitz machine. That's how they won 648 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl last year. They blitzed Patrick Mahomes right 649 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: out of that stadium, right out of Tampa Stadium. And 650 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: you look at other teams that have that success, and 651 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: those that have it are the ones that are just 652 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: rushing with four and not getting home. Even the Los 653 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: Angeles Rams with Aaron Donald, you'll see they're not blitzing 654 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: enough and as a result, they're not getting as much 655 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: treasure on the quarterback. So and and what's happening in 656 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: Green Bay? Now Pet is out and they're blitzing more 657 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: and that has big complimentary football for the Green Bay Packers. 658 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: In fact, NOLO is dial starting to dial up the 659 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: blitz in Kansas City and they've had a lot more 660 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: success in the last game six to eight games in 661 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: Kansas City defensive leagu because Steve's bags has been dialing 662 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: up the blitz. So and you know, I got a 663 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: lot of gray hairs. Paul will tell you AN been 664 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: around a lot plenty. I got twenty nine years covering 665 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: his football. I went to the buddy Ryan. Here's that 666 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: guy would blitz you right off the airplane. Jim Johnson. 667 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: You guys remember Jim Johnson. What's all the time? Yeah, 668 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: there's no doubt about it. A rich history there in Philadelphia. 669 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: And your point is well taken because the Cheese are 670 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: on a seven game winning street because of their defensive turnaround. 671 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: He is ESPN NFL reporters Palantonio. Sal always appreciate the 672 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: time of the inside. Happy holidays, Mary, Christmas, and we 673 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: look forward to Sunday's game. Thanks again, Thanks, I have 674 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: a Mary, Okay, we'll see you on Sunday. Thank you 675 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: for having me. Really appreciate it. That's Sal Palatonio from ESPN. 676 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: Of course you could find him covering the NFL with 677 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: a focus on the Eagles, and of course you can 678 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: find them on their NFL Matchup show, which is really 679 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: the best inside football show that ESPN does. Make sure 680 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: you go check that out. Alright, Giant fans, don't forget 681 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: to take in all the action of Giants football from 682 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: your own private Sweet Giant sweets are a great way 683 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,719 Speaker 1: to entertain the family and friends are reading on your 684 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: Giants and MetLife Stadium speak with a Giant Sweet representative 685 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: now by calling eight at eight n y G. We 686 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: wrap up today's show with the head coach of the 687 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: New York Football Giants, Joe Judge. Bob Papa speaks to 688 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: him as always, You were joined by the head coach 689 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: of the New York Giants, Joe Judge. The Giants and 690 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: Eagles on Sunday. Alright, Coach, I know there's some uncertainty 691 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: for the game on Sunday as to who's gonna start, 692 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: how's the week gone, and what will be the thing 693 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: that makes the final determination for you and the staff. Yeah, well, 694 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: the biggest things I want to watch, you know, a 695 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: few days of practice and just watch you overall operation 696 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: when Jake and there. We've seen Mike for a couple 697 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: of games and just kind of see how the operation 698 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,280 Speaker 1: and practice goes. And obviously he had a smooth drive 699 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: last week to finish the game out as far as 700 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 1: moving the ball downfield puts in position. I want to 701 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: see that carried over to a full week of practice. 702 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: You know, Jake is still kind of newer to our program. 703 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: He's had a couple of weeks there practicing with us, 704 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: and he's made some advancements along the way, did a 705 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: good job in the game. I want to get ahead 706 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 1: and just you know, give him a fair look along 707 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: with Mike and see who gives their team the best chance. 708 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 1: All right, Well, when you look at this football game, 709 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: one of the things that is given is Philadelphia's ability 710 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: to run the football. Um, you know, over their last 711 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 1: seven games are averaging like two d and fourteen yards 712 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: a game on the ground there on third downs they 713 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: stay in manageable down in distance. Do they do anything 714 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: unique or special in their run game or is it 715 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: just the fact that they execute really well? Well? I 716 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: think the unique thing about this team isn't necessarily the 717 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: schemes are running. It's the combination of how they can 718 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: run the ball, and they do a good job with 719 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: some gaps schemes there on the r p O s 720 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,959 Speaker 1: and QBS own reads to kind of get it going. 721 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: They're very effective to those. But then also it's the 722 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: combination of the screen game, which really ties in into 723 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 1: an extension of their run game. Get those perimeter screens 724 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,919 Speaker 1: of tunnel screens and getting easy access on the edge 725 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: to go ahead and just run the ball. But a 726 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: large element of that game is really the run game 727 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: that comes off their pass game. That's what hurts, you know, 728 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 1: he gets back there. He's got such an ability to 729 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: scramble in really extend place. He accounts for a large 730 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 1: amount of their yardage, and that really comes down to 731 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: you haven't a tackled him in space. And sometimes you 732 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: do a good job on the coverage, you shut down 733 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: the pass opportunity, but then you have to do a 734 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: good job react and coming up and making the tackles. 735 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: The last two games Dallas got at their tight end 736 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: has eclipsed his career highs yet over a hundred yards 737 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 1: against the Jets and then you know, one thirty eight 738 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: or whatever it was against Washington. Is that some of 739 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: that just the function of that run game and and 740 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: him being able to and then being able to scheme 741 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,839 Speaker 1: him to get open. Well, there's definitely elements they build 742 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 1: off those RPOs and go ahead and use him as 743 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 1: an access point if the runs not there, But they 744 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: also do a very good job just stretching the feel 745 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: with him. The one thing he's really demonstration ability with 746 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 1: contested catches of going up and wrestling the ball away 747 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 1: from defensive backs. And they've not only hit him with 748 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: some you know kind of typical underneath drag flat routes 749 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 1: and things that nature that are tight end routes, but 750 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: they pushed the ball down the field with them on 751 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: some vertical routes as well, and he's really capitalized on that. 752 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: So he's really stretching the field for them as a weapon. 753 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: You guys were very opportunistic when you beat them at 754 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: MetLife Stadium a couple of weeks ago. You forced four 755 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: takeaways in the football game. Um, you know, is that 756 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: something that you know when you talk about it with 757 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: your team, you want it to happen, but not to 758 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: sacrifice technique to try to force it to happen. Yeah. Well, 759 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 1: we're always looking for turnovers and a lot of that 760 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: comes from just being in the right spot and breaking 761 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: with the right technique. And then also in the run game, 762 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 1: when your drawing balls off them, you know, first man 763 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 1: in securing the tackle, next man in attacking the ball, 764 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: making sure that you secure it and eliminate yards after 765 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 1: contact while still giving yourself a chance for the ball. 766 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: We're able to knock a couple off from the last 767 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: last game, gets some interceptions as well, So you know, 768 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: it's key for us to make sure that we just 769 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 1: play good team defense and just do your job be 770 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: we're supposed to be. The player will come to you 771 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 1: if you play with the right technique, in the right position, 772 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 1: and you play at the right speed. Coach, you've been 773 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,479 Speaker 1: able to generate a better run game. Over the last 774 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Sae Kwan is starting to show more things. 775 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,800 Speaker 1: Booker has been, you know, really a solid strong player 776 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,879 Speaker 1: for you. Talk about that maturation in your football team 777 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 1: and why it's starting to come together. Well, guys are 778 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: definitely doing a better job running off the ball with 779 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 1: the offensive line and generate some movement on the down 780 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 1: guys right there and open some gaps. And I see 781 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,839 Speaker 1: both Sai Kwan and Booker and then also Eli when 782 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 1: he gets in the game as well, really attacking the 783 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 1: ball vertically and just sticking a foot and ground. And 784 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 1: we talked all the time about dirty runs, talk about 785 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 1: those three to four to five yard runs and just 786 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 1: dirty runs of sticking in there. It doesn't look pretty, 787 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: but making sure you keep moving the sticks. And they've 788 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 1: been committed to that. And off of that, we've had 789 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 1: some runs that have going for ten, twelve, thirteen, you know, 790 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 1: and a little bit further earlier on this year. So 791 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 1: you know what I see is the team is just 792 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: the overall combination of the run block and improven as 793 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 1: a unit that's gotten better throughout the year. And then 794 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,439 Speaker 1: also the runners really attacking that ball vertically and going 795 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 1: for the positive games which lead to the bigger games. Coach, 796 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 1: the final thing, Um, you know, listen to records not 797 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 1: where you want it to be. But I think if 798 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,720 Speaker 1: people crack on the tape and watch the Giants play, 799 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 1: you guys play really hard and you fight. Even last 800 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 1: week's game even though the score wasn't what you would 801 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 1: want it to be. Um, you guys had it where 802 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: you still had an opportunity early in the fourth quarter. 803 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: Is that something as a coach and as his staff 804 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 1: makes you proud that your guys are fighting the way 805 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,399 Speaker 1: they're fighting, even though they're not getting results of reinforcement 806 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 1: of wins that they'd like. Yeah. Absolutely, And that's got 807 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 1: to be a trademark of our organization. You know, we're 808 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 1: gonna play with reluentant effort, We're gonna play telephone, gonna 809 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: play as a team, and the guys understand the area, 810 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 1: they represent the people in the fight that this community 811 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 1: has and we're gonna make sure we go out there 812 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 1: and we reflect that on the field all the time, 813 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,760 Speaker 1: and y'all tell guys all time they ask, Hey, listen, 814 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 1: it's been a tough year in summer regards as far 815 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 1: as a record, but you know, we understand where we 816 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: can go with this program and we see some positive 817 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: things to build on. But ultimately, when people ask you about, 818 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,120 Speaker 1: you know, can you keep a team together and the 819 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: guys come on in. I don't know what it's like 820 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 1: in other places, and I don't know it was like 821 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 1: before I got here. I can just tell you I 822 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: know what it's like right now. And the expectation for 823 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 1: our guys is to come in here every day to 824 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 1: work and fight for each other and to represent you know, 825 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 1: the uniform that you wear with pride, and that's where 826 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 1: our guys play and we're not gonna toler anything less 827 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,879 Speaker 1: than that. So in terms of you know, what I see, 828 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: I see a team of guys coming together and playing 829 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 1: for each other and staying committed to working and having results. 830 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,879 Speaker 1: I see guys pushing to improve, and I see guys 831 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 1: playing as a team. Final question, Coach Um, because I 832 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: just started to think back to last week's post game, 833 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: and um, you know, Leonard Williams, it was touchy as 834 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 1: to whether he could play in the game, and he 835 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 1: gave a really well thought out answer as far as 836 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 1: he's like, listen, my defensive lineman, we're a group, and 837 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit this game out and let my 838 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 1: guys down. I know it's not something that could affect 839 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 1: me the rest of my life, and I'm going to 840 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 1: fight through it to be with my teammates. What does 841 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 1: that say about his leadership in your in your room? 842 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 1: So guy's truly putting the team earst and you talk about, 843 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,720 Speaker 1: you know, you know, the toughness, mental toughness and physical 844 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 1: toughness that he demonstrates going out there and playing through 845 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:07,879 Speaker 1: that and a lot of guys that have been dealing 846 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 1: the same ailments. Kenny Galadley is a guy that he's 847 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: been playing through, you know, a rib injury for the 848 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 1: last few weeks, and that's something that every time he 849 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: goes out there and runs around, he feels the guys 850 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 1: and it hurts him, but he doesn't WinCE. He doesn't 851 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 1: miss a rep, he doesn't miss a practice. He goes 852 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: out there and he plays, he takes shots, he keeps 853 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 1: on plugging on through it. But to see a guy 854 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 1: like Leonard do that and just really articulated, that's really 855 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 1: the vibe in our locker room, guys, and that's what 856 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 1: we expect. Our guys go out there, they go to work. 857 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: They're gonna play her. They're gonna play it through injuries. 858 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna push each other, We're gonna hold each other accountable. 859 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 1: And you know, look, the foundational pieces are the toughest 860 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,879 Speaker 1: pieces to put together, okay. And I'm never gonna ask 861 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 1: anybody for patients. I'm not gonna try and sell somebody 862 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 1: on a dream. But the reality is when you walk 863 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 1: through our building, you understand the feel and the culture 864 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 1: that's within the locker room, and you see the way 865 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: the guys work in practice, and you understand the stepping 866 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,439 Speaker 1: stones are in place to take the next step. Coach, 867 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 1: we appreciate a couple of minutes. Is always appreciate. That's Johnny, 868 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 1: said Coach Joe Judge. We think him as he's Oh. 869 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 1: Glari and South Palestonio for joining us on this episode 870 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,400 Speaker 1: of The Giants Subtle Podcast, our preview of the Giants 871 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 1: and Eagles. Merry Christmas, everybody, Thank you for being with us, 872 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 1: have a joyous holiday season, holiday weekend, and we'll see 873 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,240 Speaker 1: you next week for another episode of The Giants Shuttle