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We're complete details covered by twenty twenty five 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:30.000 Bank of America Corporation. 0:00:35.440 --> 0:00:38.800 Hello everybody, Welcome into the cycle. I am Ryan Warmley, 0:00:38.880 --> 0:00:42.519 joined as always by Mike Mayer. We are talking a 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:45.120 whole bunch of stuff. We're gonna talk some pictures, We're 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:47.720 gonna talk some bilos and sell highs. Those will been 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:49.879 some of the later segments that you can find on 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:52.920 YouTube and on audio. We're gonna start things off with 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:55.680 rounding the bases as always, before we dive into some 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:57.640 of the trending topics around in the league. 0:00:57.840 --> 0:00:58.720 Mayor, how are you doing? 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:00.520 How are now that we're like a couple week because 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:02.120 like that first week, it's okay, it could be. 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:02.720 Kind of a fluke. 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:05.119 You never know, like you know, it's really small sample size. 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:07.120 A couple weeks in. How are your teams looking for 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:08.759 the twenty twenty five fantasy season. 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:11.240 It's kind of a mixed bag of everything. There's a 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:13.360 couple leagues I'm doing really well. There's at least one 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:17.039 league I'm doing really poorly, and the other few I'm 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:20.400 like average, two above average. But you know, across my 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:23.400 I think I'm in eight leagues. I'm doing fairly well 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:27.000 in most of them, maybe one or two. I got 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:30.120 some work to do. I'm in trouble, especially one one 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:32.480 that we're in together. I'm near the bottom. It's my 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:34.160 hitting that's really holding me back. I do have some 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:35.920 players coming back that can help me soon, but it's 0:01:36.120 --> 0:01:37.120 not looking great right now. 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:39.640 I was gonna say, you and I are in two 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:42.800 leagues together, and I am performing very well in both 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:43.040 of them. 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:45.040 They are probably the two best leagues I am in 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:45.480 this year. 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:49.440 I have other leagues where I'm not doing so hot, 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:54.200 including the Fantasy pros. Like in house Work League, I 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:55.080 am in dead last. 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:57.800 So that's are you're dead last? Me? You and Kelly 0:01:57.800 --> 0:01:59.920 were like the top three performing teams last week. 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:03.080 Yeah, my first my first two weeks were. 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:05.440 First of all, they counted the first half week as 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:06.960 a full week, and I just had a bad like 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:09.360 three days, and so that hurt me because it's a 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:11.280 categories league. 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:13.800 So I went like, you know, one and nine or something, 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:15.160 and then I had. 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:16.760 Like May, so you got to count that for this week. 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:19.359 Yeah, and I had a very poor second week. I 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:20.880 was a good I had a good third week. But 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:24.560 there's only so much he can bounce back, so a 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:26.400 lot of work to do in that one. But yeah, 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:28.600 let's let's side into some of the stuff going on 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:31.480 around baseball. I put in you told me before we 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:33.880 started recording that you don't really have a strong, you 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:36.920 know take on this situation. But like we have to 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:39.480 just mention Spencer Stryder finally returning, Like this is a 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:42.200 guy who, prior to getting hurt, was the like as 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:44.920 consensus of an sp one as you can get in 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:46.360 fantasy baseball. 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:47.680 You know, really no. 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:51.680 Red flags at all, just you know, an elite, elite, 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:56.720 elite fantasy ace. And Stryder went five innings, two runs, 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:59.360 one walk, five strikeouts, gave up a home run. He 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:02.920 threw ninety Evan pitches in his first outing back. Obviously 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:05.360 he had a couple of reheb starts in there to 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:07.799 build up the workload. But you know this is over 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:11.680 a year you last saw him, and he looked like 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:16.320 not too far off version of Spencer Strider. What was 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:19.000 your kind of takeaway from watching that or checking the 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:19.520 box score? 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:22.760 Well, my first take was I actually tweeted about it 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:25.000 how annoyed I am because I live in Georgia, where 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:27.680 I should be able to watch the Braves, but they 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:30.000 are not on local television because of like a you know, 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:33.519 contract dispute, but then also blacked out on MLB TV, 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:35.920 So the Braves are the one team I can't watch live. 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:39.480 So I had to watch his back. I know some 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:40.960 people were out there, they were a little concerned. The 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:43.840 velocity was down like a mile per hour. I thought 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:46.480 it looked fine, you know, like obviously he didn't look 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:49.480 like the elite, elite, elite version of Spencer Strider. But 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:52.280 I thought like, this is what a first start back 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:54.480 looks like for a good picture, you know, like they 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:56.440 don't always come out and throw eight shut out at inns. 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:57.920 Sometimes you go out there he throw five innings, you 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:00.680 don't have your best stuff and it's fine. Like he 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:03.920 didn't get rocked. He didn't look amazing. I don't think 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:06.680 the velocity was down enough that it's like concerning, because 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:09.200 he still got a few fastballs up over ninety seven 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:11.880 miles an hour. I think, I think that's going to 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:14.120 be just fine. I think, you know, even if that's 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:16.440 where he sits most of the season, I think he'll 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:18.839 be okay at that. You know, it's not like he's 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:20.640 you know, he through ninety three to ninety four. Now 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:22.080 he's down at like ninety one, where it could be 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:24.719 a problem. Which is kind of funny to say that 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:26.880 now because like you know, in the nineties, you'll be like, wow, 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:32.360 ninety one, that's great. But yeah, I know some people 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:35.360 are a little worried. I'm not that worried. I think 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:36.159 he looked fine. 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:42.000 So I guess the real question is how many pitchers 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:43.600 would you rather have than him rest of season? 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:45.080 If the season started today. 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:48.159 You're presuming you have him for the quote unquote whole year. 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:51.960 The rest of they going forward, where is he? I mean, 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:54.480 I'll tell you in ECR and rest of season rankings, 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:57.280 which isn't always updated that quickly, but for what it's worth, 0:04:57.360 --> 0:04:59.560 he's at a sorry picture thirteen. 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:01.200 Actually it's twelve. 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:02.760 Because Otani's ahead of him just because of the way 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:04.640 the rankings look, but obviously a Tani we're not looking 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:07.000 at as a picture, so so really the twelfth highest 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:10.239 ranked picture rest of season. There are definitely names ahead 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:12.400 of him that I would rather have him than that. 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:16.480 The names immediately ahead of him are Michael King, Corbyn Burns, 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:18.080 still and ceased, Jacob de Gram. 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:19.680 I'd rather have. 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:24.679 Him than maybe all of those guys. Cease is maybe 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:26.880 the one that I would think about, but I definitely 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:29.200 rather have Strider than Corban Burns from what we've seen. 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:31.680 I mean, I think Strider is less of an injury 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:33.080 risk than Jacob de Gram. 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:36.000 And Michael King said, you know, some good, some. 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:38.760 Bad, but I'm pretty sure i'd rather have Strider as 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:42.400 like that SP eight ish range is what first jumps 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:42.800 out to me. 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:44.000 What do you think about that? 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:47.360 I in my rankings, I moving him up to SP five, 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:49.960 So SB six five, okay if you include Otani, but 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:52.840 SP five I only have Skiens, schoolbl Crochet, and Wheeler 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:56.200 ahead of him, and then I have Strider and then 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:57.600 you know the rest of the rest of the list. 0:05:57.600 --> 0:05:59.120 But yeah, I wand him up. 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:00.760 So I think that's fair. 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:04.360 The one name that is ahead of like even Crochet 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:08.960 that you didn't mention his logan Gilbert in ECR, he's fourth, Okay, 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:09.320 so you have. 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:10.279 Him right after Strider. 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:13.760 Okay, Yeah, I think that's sale in Reagan's like it's worth, 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:17.360 you know, thinking about more. I think I'd probably rather 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:20.160 have Reagans than Strider, but I totally get the case 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:23.200 for reversing those I think that's like the tier i'd 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:27.760 have him in, and I imagine that ECR will move 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:29.840 up with Strider, Like, what do you see a couple 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:32.800 more starts under his belt? Because there was I know 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:36.560 you mentioned the velocity, but like, I'm pretty thoroughly unconcerned 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:38.280 about what we saw. What about I'll just ask you 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:40.520 one last thing on him. Is he somebody that you 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:44.560 would be looking to include in trades either are you 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:46.440 worried about some kind of injury you want to sell him? 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:48.200 It sounds like no base on where you're ranking him, 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:51.640 or would you be saying like, hey, let's let's make 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:53.600 it offer for him as if he is an ace 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:56.520 like actually pay up by high to get him in 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:57.000 your roster. 0:06:57.800 --> 0:06:59.520 So I think about this a lot with like a player, 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:01.479 because you I'm so, if you have Spencer Strider, you 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:05.760 probably drafted him and waited and you know now you're 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:07.720 happy because he's here. So do you want to just 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:11.040 get rid of him already? I think the answer is 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:13.600 only if it's a cell high like because a lot 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:16.000 of times, like a you know, a player that was hurt, 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:18.280 he comes back, you start getting trade offers like pretty 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:20.400 much imediately, and you're like, hold on, bucko, like I'm 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:22.360 the one who drafted this guy and stashed him, like 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:24.080 I'm gonna you know, reap the benefits. Now you're not 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:26.720 going to trade for him. I'd be willing to sell 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:28.680 high because you know, there's always with any picture, there's 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:32.640 injury concern, and especially coming off of Tommy John surgery, 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:34.560 the thing that's most likely to happen coming off of 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:38.240 Tommy John surgery is getting Tommy John surgery again. So 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:42.800 there's always you know, concern there. But yeah, it would 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:44.360 have to be a cell high for me because for me, 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:48.400 I invested at him, I drafted him, and I think 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:51.360 a lot of people were worried that, you know, he 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:54.200 might not return till like May or June. But then 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:56.520 you know, as we started getting into fantasy draft season, 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:58.680 we start to see, hey, this guy's throwing off a 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:00.800 mound already, and it starts to think, hey, this guy 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:03.920 might be back by mid April. And that's exactly what happened. 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:05.720 And so you probably got a pretty good discount on 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:09.000 him depending on like when you drafted, because he's already back. 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:11.600 So yeah, I'm definitely holding. But you know, if you 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:14.520 want to, you know, make me a godfather offer, you know, 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:15.840 I'll listen. 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:18.559 By the way, just because I'm looking. 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:21.680 The name right after him currently in ECR is Yamamoto. 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:23.440 I think he should be hired to like I would. 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:26.680 I would rather have Yamamoto than like from again, from 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:29.560 what we've seen from Corbin Burns, I couldn't have been 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:32.480 more out on Jacob de Gram in draft season. I 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:35.840 would rather have Galvamodo than him, just total lack of 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:38.760 trust there. Also not like he's been you know, stellar 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:41.920 to start the year anyway, even aside from the injury stuff. 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:45.160 Like so, I think Aavamoto is another guy that should 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:47.720 should move up a handful of spots as well. 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:49.199 In my opinion, I. 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:51.080 Want to remind everybody that if you want a chance 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:54.600 to win a signed Nico Horner Cubs jersey for free 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:57.240 courtesy of our friends at Christine Auction dot com, all 0:08:57.240 --> 0:08:58.960 you have to do is subscribe to the Fantasy Pros 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:01.959 MLB YouTube chantannel right now, drop a comment below on 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:04.400 any video, and that is it. We'll be announcing a 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:06.600 winner right here on the podcast, So make sure to 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:08.760 turn on those notifications so you can know when new 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:14.280 videos are up and to claim your prize. All right, Mayor, 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:18.080 I want to look at an article on ESPN dot 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:20.719 com where they did their ACE rankings. This is a 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:24.280 few days ago, but it's since our last episode of recording, 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:26.720 and I just kind. 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:29.000 Of wanted to run through the list and see what 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:29.520 you thought. 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:34.840 Obviously, this is more just general ACE discussion than you know, 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:40.000 specifically fantasy driven but you know, obviously they're the best 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:42.480 pictures in one are probably going to be near the 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:44.480 top of the best pictures in the other. And since 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:46.880 we kind of start off talking about Strider, I wanted 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:49.880 to kind of take a step back and evaluate. You know, 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:51.439 in the last five years, there's been a lot of 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:54.520 changeover of who the true aces in baseball are. So 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:58.000 I think it's an interesting time to kind of reevaluate 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:00.120 reset and say, who are you know the guys at 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:02.840 the top. So in the ESPN article, which you know, 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:06.000 anybody can just go google it, they have a number 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:09.280 one Scooball hard to deny that coming off AlSi young. 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:13.480 Number two Paul Skeens obviously like aggressive given how little 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:16.480 experience he is, but hard to watch him and disagree 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:20.400 with him as that being too high. Zach Wheeler the 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:24.440 elder Statesmen here almost thirty five years old and not 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:28.200 the strongest start to his year like the last couple outings, 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:29.480 but obviously we still have a lot of. 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:30.000 Faith in him. 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:33.840 Garrett Crochet at four, Chris Sail at five, and then 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:37.000 Framber at six. So the list goes deeper, but that's 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:42.240 their Tier one, the slam dunk aces. I'm guessing you 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:46.000 will largely agree with the top five. Obviously, Sale just 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:48.120 has kind of the question of like health, but he's 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:51.600 coming off the CI like was awesome last year, so 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:54.920 I think that was top five are pretty pretty valid. Framber, 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:58.600 I did not expect to see as a Tier one ACE. 0:10:58.760 --> 0:10:59.760 What did you think about that? 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:02.720 Yeah, that's a name that jumps out, I think. You know, 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:05.040 my first thought was like, maybe you can argue against Sale, 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:06.280 but I was like, well, he did just win the 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:07.800 cy Young So as much as I want to like 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:11.640 kind of fade him this year, hard to hard to 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:13.840 deny how he bounced back with the Braves last year, 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:18.080 But yeah, franber Valdez, like he's a really good picture, 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:19.560 but I don't know if he belongs in that like 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:24.319 tier one like ace you know conversation, especially because he 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:28.440 and like I don't want to kind of like you know, 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:31.200 speak out against like his style of pitching, because you know, 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:34.120 there was some really good pictures in history who you know, 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:37.480 like relied on contact and he's not like even that extreme. 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:38.960 But like we don't think of him as like being 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:42.960 like super dominant with like huge strikeout numbers. He's just 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:45.199 like a really really good pitcher, and I would say 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:48.640 he is an ACE. But to have him this high 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:50.160 above some of the other names on the list, I 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:52.839 think is a little interesting. Especially even if you wanted 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:55.560 to have him at like six after a tier break, 0:11:57.040 --> 0:11:58.520 we would have like more of an argument, But to 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:01.520 include him in this top tier is pretty intriguing. 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:03.800 Do you think he definitely belongs even in the top twelve. 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:06.040 I think it's fair to call him an ace, like 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:09.200 is he is capable of being a team's best picture. 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:13.000 But I might get to twelve names before I came 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:15.040 up with him, if I was sitting down and saying, 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:18.480 like thinking true real world like these are like the 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:21.480 aces like let alone tier one, But this list only 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:23.440 goes twelve step, which is why I use that number. 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:25.600 I'm not sure I would have expected to see him 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:28.079 on the list even if he still would be inside 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:30.600 the top you know, twenty or twenty five or whatever 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:33.240 would get you in the range of like still an ace, 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:36.440 but not like a slam dunk tier one type of guy. 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:38.400 I think he belongs in the list a lot more 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:40.079 than one of the other pictures on this list. I 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:41.319 can tell you that I. 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:43.000 Wonder if we agree on who that other picture is. 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:44.480 Let's look at some more of the rest of the 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:47.000 list in tier two and this is just labeled as 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:50.640 the second tier aces at number seven, Cole Reagan's number eight, 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:54.760 Logan Gilbert number nine, Corbyn Burns number ten, Dylan Cease 0:12:54.960 --> 0:13:00.480 number eleven, Christopher Sanchez and number twelve Spencer Strider, mayor 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:03.480 I wonder which name it is that you think doesn't belong. 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:05.640 I think we're getting a little out of ahead of 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:09.000 our skis on this. Christopher Sanchez love to includ him 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:11.000 in this ACE conversation, like he's been a nice story, 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:12.920 he's been really good. I don't know that he belongs, 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:15.800 like not even on list ahead of Spencer Strider, like 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:16.680 what are we doing here? 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:19.920 Uh? And and some of the other names who aren't 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:23.160 on the list like that. It clearly some of the 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:26.240 guys on here, like Strider and Sale have injury risks. 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:27.800 So if you're not if you're willing to set aside 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:30.640 injury risk, I think Hunter Green should be on there 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:33.640 ahead of him. I just mentioned Yamamoto on the fantasy side. 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:37.160 I think he I would certainly take ahead of Christopher Sanchez. 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:39.199 I mean, I think you make cases for some of 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:42.240 these other guys that didn't make the list, like Freed, 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:48.760 Schwellingback King, Kirby Schwellenbach, Logan Webb even like I I mean, 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:50.720 Garret Cole's out for the year. They mentioned him in 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:54.679 the kind of honorable mention. But yeah, Sanchez was like 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:58.320 like Franmber was like an eyebrow razor in tier one. 0:13:58.640 --> 0:14:01.680 Sanchez is like an eye opener on this list. 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:03.800 Of them all. I think Strollenbag is an interesting case 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:06.040 just because like he's had in terms of like timeline 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:09.520 and performance, he's had kind of like this same rise 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:13.680 as Christopher Sanchez, just better and so like, I don't 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:16.520 know how you include Christopher Sanchez based on that track 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:19.000 record and not Spencer Swellenbach. 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:23.320 Yeah, that was that was surprising anybody that you would 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:25.160 want to make the case for being higher because we 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:27.560 talked about a couple of idioms that we thought were maybe, 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:32.000 you know, a little too high and it should be lower. 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:34.120 Who would you raise on this list? 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:36.520 I mean, Strider is like kind of an obvious one 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:39.040 because the only reason he's twelve is because of the 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:39.880 injury stuff. 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:41.800 Is anybody else? 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:43.800 I mean Reagan's I wonder if he's more of like 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:47.160 a like a fantasy Ace than a real life Ace. 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:50.640 But I'm actually not sure my thought process and even 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:55.480 saying that, like he is really good, he should be higher. 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:57.920 I think you could flip Logan Gilbert and fran ber 0:14:58.000 --> 0:14:59.320 Valdez and I'd be okay with that. 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:04.120 Yeah, I wo'd agree with that too. For sure Corbyn 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:06.760 Burns will move on after this. I just thought it 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:08.200 was kind of an interesting article and want to get 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:08.600 your opinion. 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:12.720 But Burns is the one. What do you make of him. 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:16.680 For fantasy purposes moving forward? Because his stuff has gotten 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:19.840 worse the last few years, it hasn't mattered. He's still 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:23.560 been a very productive fantasy pitcher. Now the first year 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:25.960 in Arizona like off to another slow start. He's on 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:29.720 the wrong side of thirty. This article mentions that his 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:35.240 cutter velocity is starting to slip. I watched a lot 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:37.360 of him obviously last year, like you know, when he 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:39.680 was on the Orioles, and it felt like he wasn't 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:43.120 as good as like Cy young winner in Milwaukee Corbyn Burns, 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:45.640 but he was still like clearly an ace. I wonder 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:48.160 if we're just like trending in the wrong direction with him, 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:51.000 Like when you think about him the rest of season in 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:53.360 fantasy rankings, where would you have a guy like Burns 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:54.800 just given what we've seen to start the year. 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:57.080 I mean, I was not very high on him coming 0:15:57.120 --> 0:15:59.000 into the year for all the reasons you just mentioned, 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:01.240 Like we're kind of seeing like there were there are 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:03.320 enough red flags to be concerned, right, Like we already 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:05.520 have enough concerns about most pitchers coming into the year. 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:09.880 I don't need extra ones. Like with some of like 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:13.080 the kind of like declining performance last year was like 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:14.960 the first year, like there were points leass year, like 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:16.720 he did not look dominant at all. He struck out 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:19.960 lesson about a printing. I still have him my top 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:23.720 twelve for now. I don't know, I just feel like 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:26.640 I have to like to move him down just like 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:28.480 based on like he's still finished with like a two 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:30.440 point nine two er last year. It's still really good, 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:32.440 still one hundred and eighty one strikeouts in one hundred 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:35.680 ninety four innings. But we've seen the k rate decline 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:39.840 for what four or five years now, and some of it, 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:41.960 like it's not like kind of like a fluke thing 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:44.280 like some of his other like you mentioned, like velocity 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:46.960 and other things are kind of on the decline too 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:49.600 and have been for a while. So it doesn't seem 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:52.840 like a temporary blit. It seems like a trend and 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:56.680 something that you know, he's he's been really good despite it. 0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:58.280 He's kind of like you know, I don't know if 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:00.080 you would call it like learn to pitch around it. 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:03.080 But you know he's he's been adjusting, but you know, 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:05.680 another slow start. I think there are reasons to be concerned. 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:09.120 He doesn't have that deep you know, super Wall in 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:12.280 Baltimore behind him anymore. Now he's out in the in 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:15.560 the heat in Arizona, and uh yeah, I think there's 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:17.399 a lot of reason to be to be worried. 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:25.240 It's the Smucker's Uncrustables podcast with your host Uncrustables. Okay, 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:29.040 today's guest is rough around the Edges. Please welcome, crust 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:32.600 Thanks for having me today's topic. He's round with soft 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:35.560 pillowy bread hey, filled with delicious PEBMJ. 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:37.399 Are you talking about yourself? 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:39.040 And you can take him anywhere? 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:41.800 Why do you invite? 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