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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio Final Hour on this Tuesday, the Hall of Famers.

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Speaker 1: Steve Young on loan from the Mother's Ship will join us.

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Speaker 1: Coming up more phone calls. We're gonna stay with the

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Speaker 1: poll question that we've had throughout the show. Mcklevin, I

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Speaker 1: think we should try a new one. So the first

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Speaker 1: one was which coaching vagacy would you want? And the

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Speaker 1: Raiders actually ran away from with that one. Okay, we

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Speaker 1: had the fan base that's most depressed, PAULI as a

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Speaker 1: question that is more about officiating, Should you be able

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Speaker 1: to be called for taunting if your team is losing? Yes?

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Speaker 1: Some people said that why wasn't Tom Brady called for

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Speaker 1: anything when he went over towards the other team's bench,

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Speaker 1: And then the Bears player did that a couple months ago,

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Speaker 1: some backup linebacker. He went towards the other team bench

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Speaker 1: and starts f bombing them and yelling at them. But

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Speaker 1: was he taunting because it wasn't after a successful play

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Speaker 1: and they didn't have the lead. So can you be

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Speaker 1: fined for harassing the other team's bench? It's the same act.

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Speaker 1: You're causing a situation with your behavior. Was Brady taunting.

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Speaker 1: He was definitely yelling and screaming and went over to

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Speaker 1: the other teams bench and engage them. He was asked

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Speaker 1: about this last night on his podcast with Jim Gray.

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Speaker 1: Tommy also went over into the bench area of the

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Speaker 1: Saints and had a conversation. What were you screaming at them?

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Speaker 1: We were just explaining, exchanging pleasantries. It was a nice

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Speaker 1: night in Tampa, so we were just wonderfully in the

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Speaker 1: heat of the moment expressing. You know, I wouldn't say pleasantries,

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Speaker 1: but we were very competitive in that moment. It was emotional.

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Speaker 1: So it's just football players being football players, all right.

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Speaker 1: But if you're losing, you're being shut out. Can you

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Speaker 1: taunt when you're losing? Right, I don't know, I would say,

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Speaker 1: Todd asked the NFL, But I'm afraid you will. And

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Speaker 1: I don't want to bother the NFL. But you engage

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Speaker 1: the other team's bench. Who was the Bears player Chase something? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but he he did his taunting towards the or looked

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Speaker 1: over at the bench and then came back and then

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Speaker 1: he got bumped in to by the official. Yes he

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Speaker 1: but is that the guy who did like the spinning

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Speaker 1: leg kick and then did this like celebration and then

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Speaker 1: went over and did that stuff. That guy. Yeah, Cash

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Speaker 1: is marsh that's right. Yeah. And he do you dressed

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Speaker 1: like his Conan the Barbarian in his press conference. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he had some big fur jacket collar, his hair looked

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Speaker 1: like a poodle. Yes, But the NFL explained his penalty

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Speaker 1: and fine. He went over towards the other team's bench,

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Speaker 1: engaged them and along like. It wasn't a quick move.

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Speaker 1: He didn't say anything to them. He looked at him.

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Speaker 1: Brady was engaged the other team's sidelines and bench and

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Speaker 1: coaches and started yelling and screaming. Yes, time. It shouldn't

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Speaker 1: matter if what the scores of who's winning or losing.

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Speaker 1: If you're causing some kind of destructions, it's going to

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Speaker 1: lead to some kind of fights which are trying to stop.

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Speaker 1: Then I think both sides should get a penalty no

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Speaker 1: matter what. Thank you, John, But I'm not at anything there.

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Speaker 1: Why see you laughing. I'm I'm trying to follow the

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Speaker 1: trail of biggle. It's it's coming from your buddy in

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Speaker 1: the front row. You could just you know, worth five

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Speaker 1: seconds into your response and I could just you know

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Speaker 1: Dan gets an expression on his face, or sometimes he'll

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Speaker 1: be looking over at Utah and then he'll look at me,

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Speaker 1: and I just I know exactly what's going because on

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Speaker 1: thank you, Todd standby regardless of how intelligent, they're dumb.

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Speaker 1: One I'm about to say is that they're already I've

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Speaker 1: already got two strikes Army, thank you too. That's the problem.

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Speaker 1: You're welcome, yes, Molly, going back to what Todd said,

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Speaker 1: the ramifications of oh, we're so quiet earlier, now we're

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Speaker 1: here for you, and then you drop that one. Uh

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Speaker 1: welcome to the final hour. We say good morning. Two

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Speaker 1: are oh no, that's Thursday for Mick Lovin the Final

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Speaker 1: Our Thursday. You better not put a guest in that

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Speaker 1: last segment. I remember when it was Keith Oberman's last

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Speaker 1: show at Sports Center, and you know, we were building in.

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Speaker 1: I think around sixty seconds for him to say goodbye,

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Speaker 1: you know, because he helped change TV, he changed sports Center.

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Speaker 1: Sixty seconds is a lot. It might have been thirty seconds,

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Speaker 1: but just for Keith to say, hey, you know what whatever,

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Speaker 1: thank you, goodnight, and I just remember the producer squeezing

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Speaker 1: in a tennis score. I think it might have been

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Speaker 1: like a Singapore Open, and and and and so we're coming,

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Speaker 1: We're getting ready to come out of commercial break, and

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Speaker 1: there's like a minute left in the show, and then

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Speaker 1: like twelve seconds to say goodbye in his final Sports Center.

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Speaker 1: But I just remember, I went, oh, we don't need

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Speaker 1: just got bounced from the Singapore Open or something. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But knowing Keith, in that twelve seconds, he was still

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Speaker 1: was leaving to go to Fox and Fox was going

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Speaker 1: I mean, he did it professionally, but at the very end,

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Speaker 1: I think he got twelve seconds to say goodbye. Yeah, Paul,

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Speaker 1: I know it's way back when, but in the early nineties,

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Speaker 1: CNN put up a pretty good fight when they put

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Speaker 1: up that Sports Tonight show. No, they were I'm just

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Speaker 1: saying from a fan standpoint. You guys were crushing with

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Speaker 1: Sports Center, but for a while they went after it.

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Speaker 1: The only time that they were there was any competition

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Speaker 1: was when Nick Charles and Fred Hickman did Sports Tonight

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Speaker 1: when they when after I left and we got to

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Speaker 1: Sports Center and Sports Center changed, there was no competition whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: But Nick and Fred that show was better than Sports Center.

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Speaker 1: They were better than any you know, tag team partners

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Speaker 1: then that changed because Sports Center figured out how to

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Speaker 1: you know, they put everybody in their in their wake. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: didn't work out? What went wrong? Do you remember? I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember. I was at uh ESPN at the time.

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Speaker 1: But you can't. It's really hard to change somebody's viewing patterns.

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Speaker 1: over to four or five. You might be TNT might

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Speaker 1: be the mothership could be you know, Fox Sports one,

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Speaker 1: there's always five or six channels that you're really considering. Well,

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Speaker 1: and you change your viewing patterns. And Sports Center, you know,

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Speaker 1: So you kept that you know cycle going of you

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Speaker 1: And it was really one of the brilliant moves that

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Speaker 1: If you go back when I was in college, when

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Speaker 1: replay from I guess eleven PM till seven am, you'd

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Speaker 1: but they had it used to be the eleven o'clock.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I remember Chris Myers and Keith Oberman went

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Speaker 1: So what poll question? We're gonna go with final hour here?

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Speaker 1: So PAULI had the taunting one. Uh you'd ever answered,

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Speaker 1: by the way, the youngest? Oh we did? Actually, sorry,

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Speaker 1: Ray in the back just put up the youngest wide

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Speaker 1: but I wouldn't put DK in there. How old is Diggs?

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe he doesn't fit in the twenty five and under. Yeah, Paul.

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Speaker 1: Two years ago the Seahawks offense was top ten. They

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Speaker 1: see Stefan Diggs just turned twenty eight. Oh, okay, I

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Speaker 1: Twitter handle at dp's show. Raiders beat the Browns. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what it says about the Raiders, but it

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Speaker 1: does say the Browns are dead. The Vikings handle the Bears. Barely,

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Speaker 1: come on, let's go. It's the Bears blow them out,

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Speaker 1: but they and then they got the oh by the

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Speaker 1: way touchdown. So you got Seahawks at the Rams tonight,

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Speaker 1: and you got Washington at the Eagles more likely for

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Speaker 1: a surprise, Washington beats the Eagles in Philly, where the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks beat the Rams in LA. I guess I would

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Speaker 1: go Washington. It feels like the Rams are a whole

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Speaker 1: have a scouting report on Steve from the combine before

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Speaker 1: not around. That's just crazy. But I also wonder when

426
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: you think of a lefty, we normally don't think that

427
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,199
Speaker 1: they have great velocity. You know, it feels like they

428
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 1: have touch. They have touch, you know, Kenny Stabler had touch. No,

429
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, well, you've got a sample's eye of

430
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 1: three you Michael Vick could throw it. Michael Vick could

431
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: throw it. Okay, I get you a Shane Um I gotta.

432
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Speaker 1: I mean, just look, I understand it's like not a

433
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 1: fastball out there, but forgetting the job done. And I

434
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 1: mean Joe Montana even you know, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning.

435
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 1: I mean, there's not a fastball in there right now,

436
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: right So I don't know what you're looking for. The

437
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 1: Jeff George, I'm not. I'm just a fad ahead of day.

438
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: I just bias as well. I see that you've got

439
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 1: the You're part of the problem, You're not part of

440
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 1: the solution. Wow, my apology, My apologize. I am sorry

441
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 1: to all left handed quarterbacks out there. I apologize. You

442
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 1: can see I'm not. I'm not emotional about I don't know.

443
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: Do you you toss the ball? Whence last time you

444
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:22,120
Speaker 1: actually played catcher through the ball? Last night Justin Jefferson

445
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 1: and Randy Moss, well, I mean like you missed me

446
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 1: and dance and they're pretty I don't know what what

447
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 1: what you got? Do you watch sports? Dan? What? I

448
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 1: don't know if you were the We're There pregame show

449
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 1: of record, I don't know why you would miss that.

450
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 1: What show were you on? Oh you're on that Fox show? Yeah,

451
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 1: Monday Night Monday, Monday night, yes, and Monday night. Yes.

452
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 1: I believe that that was just disrespect. I'm no wonder

453
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,239
Speaker 1: you hate lefties. I can I do. But you know why,

454
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 1: I know what Montana is doing. Yeah, by back to

455
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: in the corner, you had to come out shooting with

456
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: both guns. I know, I know what could I do?

457
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: I know? Got me in the corner. Now where do

458
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: I go? I just gotta if I gotta fire, I

459
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 1: got fired hard. It's like, how close did Jim McMahon

460
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 1: come to getting tossed out of BYU? Not? I mean,

461
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 1: I remember Lavella was as a masterful human being. He

462
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: he he was a he was a phenomenal human He could,

463
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 1: he could, he could see the good in people. He could,

464
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 1: he could work the system and give people opportunities. And

465
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: Jim McMahon, he remember him calling in Jim and saying, Jim, man,

466
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 1: come on, like, if you're gonna throw a party like that,

467
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 1: you gotta do in partshit. Can't you can't do it.

468
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 1: You can't do it in Pro Bowl, man, you gotta

469
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 1: go to partshit. And Jim's like yea, ya ya yea, yeah, okay, yayah,

470
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 1: and uh, but he just Lavelle saw the good in everybody,

471
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: and Jim had a lot of good. He was a

472
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 1: he was a funny, good guy. He was crazy, but

473
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: he was a he was a he was a good

474
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Speaker 1: human and uh be what he was better for having

475
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 1: him around. So, uh but I did see some things

476
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 1: I've never seen never since. By the way, people always say,

477
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: what's the wildest thing you've ever seen in your life?

478
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 1: Or where were you? Where were you? Guys like I

479
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 1: was a probo yukon and what did you see? Let's

480
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: not let's just leave it that day that Jim mcmahn

481
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 1: throw some some crazy stuff. So, but you didn't go

482
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: to the parties, did you? I popped in. I popped in.

483
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: I was invited. I popped in. It always stood out.

484
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 1: I checked it out. I thought, holy yeah. Did you

485
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: ever hear Dion talking about when he first got to

486
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and Michael Michael Irvin was throwing a party

487
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 1: in a hotel suite and Dion shows up and he says, Mike,

488
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 1: I don't do that stuff. I don't live like this,

489
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: and he and he turned around and walked out of

490
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Speaker 1: the hotel room. Deon. You know, Dion is a I

491
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: remember him joining the forty nine ers, and everyone was

492
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: worried about what kind of teammates Dion would be. And

493
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 1: because you know, no one knew him really well because

494
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: he'd been in Atlanta, and I knew it was a

495
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: phenomen football player, but I'm not sure about a teammate.

496
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: And he walked in and he said, look, Steve, I

497
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: am a masterclass pr guy. So don't be fooled. I

498
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: know what I'm doing there, but don't ever, don't don't

499
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: pay attention, don't don't get involved in it. I'm gonna

500
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: be the best teammate you ever had. And I remember,

501
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: that's a heck of a statement, and it was true.

502
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: It's like, just don't pay attention to all this stuff

503
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: going on. I'm gonna take care the blood in the

504
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: locker room. I got your back. I'm gonna I'm I'm

505
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 1: And he was. He was a phenomenal teammate, very underrated,

506
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: uh locker room guy. He was. He was an amazing,

507
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: amazing football player and an amazing, amazing kind of athlete.

508
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,719
Speaker 1: And I am not just athlete physically, like an emotional

509
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,719
Speaker 1: athlete like he could be. You know, go go do

510
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: the uh Dion thing. And then he could he could

511
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: you know, he could do two things at once. He

512
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: could be a phenomenal, you know, teammate and he could

513
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: be out there doing his you know kind of marketing

514
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: Maven stuff. But I wonder, though, with the emphasis on offense,

515
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 1: if if Dion is coming up now, is he a

516
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 1: wide receiver? Well? What about the kid he just he

517
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 1: just got signed it? I mean, you know what he

518
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: told him. You know, look, I I the same kind

519
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: of thing. I mean, Deon' is very influential and he's

520
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 1: the kid's gonna play defensive back. When it sounds like

521
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: he's a great, one of the great athletes of all time,

522
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: why didn't he play receiver? In fact, I funny you

523
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 1: answer that question. Dan. Just the other day, I was

524
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: asking so to myself when he when he signed the kid? Uh,

525
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I remember I can't remember his name. But

526
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,719
Speaker 1: so he goes to goes to Jackson State. I mean,

527
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: I was trying to think of how Dion sold him

528
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: and I could I could sit there. I could hear

529
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: him selling him. I could hear how good he was,

530
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: how good he would be, and how he could tell him,

531
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: you know, all the things that get him to come

532
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: to Jackson State. Can you imagine being the number one

533
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: recruit going to Georgia or Florida State or and they said,

534
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: no, no no, no, no no, I'm going to Jackson State. Yeah,

535
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: I mean that, how good? You went on? All good?

536
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: Dion is right there. Well, it's it's really DSU. It's

537
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: Deon Sanders University. He's he's going to play for Dion,

538
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: And if Dion happens to get another job, it feels

539
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: like that's a package deal. Yeah, but it's pretty cool

540
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: what historically Black college is, what Deon's doing for those schools. Yeah,

541
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: I mean it's not just one school. It feels like

542
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: Deon's you know, kind of leading the way for ten schools,

543
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: which is pretty I guess I'm making my point for

544
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: you as I continue to talk about Dion. He's quite

545
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: a quite a human. Um. You know, I was watching

546
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: you break down justin fields that he tries to do

547
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: too much. Oh, now you're gonna say you watch the

548
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: show even though you don't even know where Okay, I

549
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: see here going. So I did watch that. You did?

550
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: You did break down justin fields, right, and you said

551
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: that he was trying too hard. Young quarterbacks try too hard?

552
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: What advice would you give justin field the advice I

553
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: give any what I'll call dual threat quarterbacks that are

554
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: good runners who can throw, they've got to they've got

555
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: to graduate to throwers who can run. And the job

556
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: in the NFL is to throw the football in the pocket.

557
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: How long did it take you? It's a process, but

558
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: it's more of an I'm telling you, sid Gilman, we

559
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: go back to the USFL. One of the best things

560
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: you ever did was, you know, I'd i'd run around

561
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: and make plays and you know, run for first downs.

562
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: And he was like, what the hell? What do you

563
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: do with you? No one knows where you're going, No

564
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: one knows what you're doing. No one what stand in

565
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: there and throw the football. And I'm like, what do

566
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: you mean standing throw the football? I'm not gonna take

567
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: a sack. And you know I can go run around

568
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,239
Speaker 1: and make something happen. What are you talking about it?

569
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: He goes, you don't understand. We call play in the huddle.

570
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: The play matters. Stuff matters. You got to get it

571
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: to get it the full get the full measure of

572
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: the play. You leave too early. And so one time

573
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: I ran on a run around and he's got to irritate.

574
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: He goes, go get a rope. Someone give me a rope.

575
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: Someone got a jump rope that was rain around. He goes,

576
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: he got a rope. He stopped practice. He tied my

577
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: legs together. You know, it was more ceremonial, you know

578
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: what I mean. But he was like telling me what

579
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: I would want to tell justin Fields, what I would

580
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: want to tell Michael Vick, which I did tell Michael Vick.

581
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: What I would tell anybody who could run around and

582
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: throw the football. You have to you have to be

583
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: like Mac Jones. Mac Jones is not going anywhere. Mac

584
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: Jones has to figure out a way to be a phenomenal,

585
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: sophisticated throw the football from the pocket. And you have

586
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: to be Mac Jones for some time so that you can.

587
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not saying mac Jones is gonna be Spectacus.

588
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: I'm just saying you have to be the guy that

589
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: can't move. You have to you have to tie your

590
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: legs up, you know, kind of mentally, so that you

591
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: actually are forced to sit in there and figure out

592
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: how to get the ball out of the pocket, like

593
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: out of your hand. And I think once you start

594
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: to learn that game and you can run around. That's

595
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: when the danger really comes. I mean that's when people,

596
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: you know, I see the young uh guys and Josh

597
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: Allen and Patrick Mahomes and and they're they're getting there

598
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: and it's gonna you can see how dangerous they are

599
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: and um, it's funny, Patrick Mahomes. This year, really the

600
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: challenge was the league as what happened to us with

601
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: the West Coast offense in the early nineties. It was

602
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: so far ahead of everybody. Defenses finally said forget it,

603
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: screw it, We're not We're just gonna play zone. We're

604
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: just gonna back up. We're gonna give you everything short,

605
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: but we're not going to get beat with you throwing

606
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: all over the place and get people running around while

607
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,239
Speaker 1: we're spinning around. While we're not going to do that.

608
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: We're gonna put twenty two eyeballs on the quarterback and

609
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: we're just gonna wait and force you to be patient,

610
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: force you to not make mistakes, and we'll force you

611
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: to go you know, nine, ten, eleven, twelve played drives.

612
00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: You can do it all day long, but you got

613
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,959
Speaker 1: to show the patients. And that's what the chiefs, that's

614
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: what having the Chiefs. This year, defense has said, you

615
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,719
Speaker 1: know what, screw it, We're not Travis Kelsey running all

616
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: over the place to uh tyree kill running no more,

617
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: just back up and force you to please, you know,

618
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: be be you know human, Just drop it off. And

619
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: they struggled, Patrick struggle a little bit, but they they

620
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: spaced the challenge. Remember but was it late October? They

621
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: were losing games or maybe it's a middle October, you know, like,

622
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: who are the Chiefs? What's going on? Well, the league

623
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: said no more, and they had to adjust, and then

624
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: they did, and now the league has no answer. I

625
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: think the Chiefs are better today, more dangerous today than

626
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: they've ever been, because they now have all the arrows

627
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: and the quiver that they needed. The defenses go, well

628
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: we can. We have no answer. Now. I gotta start

629
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: watching this ESPN stuff. I thinks Steve is really breaking

630
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: some stuff down here. Could you out run Brady right now? Yes? Okay, yes,

631
00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: Tom's a good man, a good friend. But Tom. What

632
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: I love about Tom? Well, I mean, obviously amazing and

633
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: so many things. How do you get started? But one

634
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: of the things I love is when he rarely does

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Speaker 1: throw interception and pick six and Tom is super competitive,

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Speaker 1: as you know, like hype, I mean, white hot super competitive.

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Speaker 1: But his body turns to try to go clean up

638
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: his mess because he he means to right, and he

639
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:23,919
Speaker 1: starts to run to do it, and he's like, oh,

640
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: why bother, nobody's that slow that I'll catch him. I

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00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: forget that, and I guess, I mean, if we can,

642
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: I just take one minute and tip my cap to

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Speaker 1: the great Tom Brady, because not only has he done

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Speaker 1: what he's done, but he's done it from one spot.

645
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: Like I didn't have to do that. There's a lot

646
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: of guys that don't have to do that. And that

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00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: is it. I mean Peyton Manning had to do it

648
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: from one spot. Dan Marino had to do it from

649
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 1: one spot. Um, that is not I would not want

650
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: to live that way. I would playing the playing the

651
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: playing the position and not be be able to get

652
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: around a little bit. Man, I just how do you.

653
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: I just think it's amazing what they've done. I want

654
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 1: to let you plug what you're doing. Uh, you're the

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Speaker 1: chairman of the board of Integrity and your gifting employees.

656
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: Oh you're a good man. Yeah, go ahead, so go ahead,

657
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: give give the plug. No, I mean, look, it's funny

658
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: they I have. I've transitioned twenty years ago. Now, I've

659
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: been in private equity for longer than I played football.

660
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: And one of our businesses, Integrity's insurance business and it's

661
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: called tech Insure. And what they've done is all that

662
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: they sit in between the carriers and the and the

663
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: insurance agents with they create products for senior living. And

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Speaker 1: it's really I mean, you think you say it's a business,

665
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: and it's but it's a good, cool business. And but

666
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Speaker 1: not only that, it's good people. And Brian Adams runs

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Speaker 1: the business for us, and he came to me a

668
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: couple of years ago and he said, Steve, I want

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Speaker 1: to I want to give equity to the employees. I

670
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Speaker 1: want to make them owners of this business. And iron

671
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Speaker 1: when he did it, I thought, you know because I

672
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: but I'd watched the NFL for years, Dan, and you

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Speaker 1: can you know this because you're older, You're old. You're

674
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Speaker 1: old enough to remember there was days back in the

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Speaker 1: eighties and nineties where like players and owners were like

676
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Speaker 1: miles apart. Nobody there was like I remember nineteen eighty

677
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: seven when we went on strike. I want to say

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Speaker 1: it was the owner of the giants. Somebody said, well,

679
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Speaker 1: don't they understand the players. We are the owners and

680
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: they're the chattel. And I remember thinking, I went to

681
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 1: law school, bro, I know what chattel is, and that's

682
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: not cool. Like that that does not that is not cool.

683
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: But it was a guy like Eddie de Bartelo who

684
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 1: finally said, you know what, I want you as my partner.

685
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: I want you as a part of my family. And

686
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:45,280
Speaker 1: then Robert Kraft and and Arthur Blank and our guys

687
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: started to own teams that were like, look, I want

688
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: to build a partnership with with players. And in doing that,

689
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: I think the CBA finally kind of caught up to

690
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: that in the early two thousands. And you want to

691
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: know why the league is so great today, you can

692
00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 1: say all kinds of things. I say it is because

693
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: owners finally gave essentially profit sharing to the players. So

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Speaker 1: when Brian said that to me, I said, that's a

695
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: great idea, because when people feel like they're owners, they

696
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 1: they'll they'll do anything because they feel like they're they're

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00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: actually a part of this. And so he did it,

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00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 1: and that's he's I don't know if there's any insurance

699
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: company in the world that does this. But he started.

700
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Speaker 1: He gave fifty million dollars out two years ago to

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Speaker 1: get started on this program. And then we just finished

702
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Speaker 1: another transaction with silver Lake Egon Durban, the famous Egon

703
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 1: Durban and uh and and now those guys, those those employees,

704
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: fifty five hundred employees now who had a stake in

705
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: the business have now made one hundred and fifty one

706
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five million dollars still with their steak.

707
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: I mean they're still making and and and so yes,

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00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: it's a great way to give people a chance to

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Speaker 1: feel that sense of ownership. And it's also a great

710
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: place for companies. And so I guess the point we

711
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: came on the show to be honest with you, Dan

712
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: is that people there's a lot of people that own businesses.

713
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: I suggest, highly suggest do you think about making employees

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00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: owners of your business and start to share. And that's

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00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:04,959
Speaker 1: a great It was a good example to me to

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00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: be honest with you. So there's that's the story. And

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00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 1: you know, I appreciate you give me a second to

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00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: talk about him. It's great to talk to you. And

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Speaker 1: I'm going to start watching that football program that year.

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Speaker 1: You're great, Daniel, I love being on with you. You

721
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: asked me great questions. I could go on for an

722
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: hour and laugh with you, and I appreciate it. And

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Speaker 1: so anytime, my best of the family. How many kids? Now? Four?

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Speaker 1: I remember college? You remember when you had your first?

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Speaker 1: And then I think you said, why didn't you tell

726
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: me what this was like? Yeah? See you see another

727
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: thing your kid from me. I wish I had five

728
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: or six. I mean I feel like I got you know,

729
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: I started late, and I mean these kids are amazing.

730
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Speaker 1: So I mean they're teaching me more. I have a

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Speaker 1: you know, a couple athletes and a couple of ones

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Speaker 1: in the music theater wants to be on Broadway. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I was like, all right, you can sing, Michael, how

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Speaker 1: do you you can sing? No one can sing. No

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Speaker 1: one can sing in my family for generations. I mean,

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Speaker 1: no singing jeans anywhere. There's no connection. But I'm awesome. Well, hey,

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Speaker 1: great to talk to you again. Thanks and Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Budding night. We'll take a break back after this. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure

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Speaker 1: to catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon

742
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Speaker 1: eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and

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Speaker 1: you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR

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Speaker 1: or stream us live on the Peacock app. Hey, I'm

745
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Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb. The podcast is called All Ball. We usually

746
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Speaker 1: talk all basketball all the time, but it's more about

747
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Speaker 1: the stories about what made these people love their sport

748
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Speaker 1: and all the interesting interactions along the way. We talked

749
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Speaker 1: to coaches, we talked to players, We tell you stories.

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Speaker 1: You download it, you listen to it. I think you'll

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Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, wherever you get your podcast.

753
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: Last call for phone calls. What we learned, What's in

754
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: store Tomorrow? Went a little along with Steve Young, but

755
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: known Steve for thirty years, maybe longer. It's always been

756
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: one of my favorite people. Sunday Night Football, it'll be

757
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: the Washington football team heading to Dallas to take on

758
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: DAK and the Cowboys. The NFC Showdown that Sunday at

759
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: seven Eastern on NBC and Peacock. Get to some phone

760
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: calls here. We got games coming up tonight, Seahawks and

761
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,720
Speaker 1: the Rams. I'm surprised if the rams they're only favored

762
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: by four. Is that sound right, Pauling, Yeah, they have

763
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: I think twenty five players affected right now by COVID

764
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: and a lot of players in flux. Okay. Earlier in

765
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: the show, we were approached by the people who are

766
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Speaker 1: doing The Man in the Arena, the Tom Brady Documentary

767
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: series is production company, and they wanted to air a

768
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: portion of the show. It's only ten seconds long, and

769
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 1: I said something about Julian Edelman. He had tested positive

770
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: for steroids, and you know we of course, I didn't

771
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: know what the relationship was like with Tom Brady because

772
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: they sent us a cease and desist when we were

773
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: the first to come out with the Tampa Bay t shirts.

774
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: So I thought, okay, maybe maybe we get petty with

775
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: Tom and say no, not that the documentary hangs in

776
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 1: the balance because I not giving them a Julian Edelman thing.

777
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 1: But we appreciate your enthusiasm for the clip. But yeah,

778
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: but it's petty with Tom, not Tom petty. Okay, Yeah,

779
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: see what I did with that, Paully. Yes, Paul, some

780
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: are saying we should be a trade off. That means me,

781
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: but I'm depending on listeners. I love that when somebody

782
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: in the media ga you know, some are saying saying, all,

783
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: how about we're allowed to sell a top of base

784
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Speaker 1: shirts until the Super Bowl as a trade offer using

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00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: our foot it's free of charge. No, but then Tom

786
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Speaker 1: sent me an autographed jury yesterday, classic Brady move and

787
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: out of nowhere, I opened up this package. But it's

788
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: been overnight it and and so the timing of getting

789
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:13,240
Speaker 1: the jersey an autograph jersey and PAULI getting this note,

790
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: this inquiry from the production company. Maybe maybe there's an

791
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: olive branch here. Yeah, see what was the like, where

792
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: did it say it came from, like TV twelve Productions

793
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: or something. Do you have the return address? And can

794
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: you get it? I don't. I didn't look at it.

795
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: And how did they get your address? I don't know.

796
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: I don't know. But he did say Dan on the autograph.

797
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 1: So I can't sell it unless it's I can't steal it. Yeah,

798
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 1: unless it's somebody named Dan who wants it. But no,

799
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: it's very nice gesture. I appreciated that and got it

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00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: delivered and brought it in today. PAULI brought that up

801
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: and I said, yes, they can use absolutely, they can

802
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: use the clip that the Julian Edelman clip. It's official.

803
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: They can use it. Remember the time he sent you

804
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: his book too? Yeah, he did, he sent me He

805
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: sent me ugs a few years ago. Really, yes, dang,

806
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: I didn't get any stets no, no stets um. What

807
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: did you learn? Todd? Steve Young idolized Roger Staback growing up.

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00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: He was much more than a poster on a wall

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Speaker 1: to him. Mclovin, would you learn? Tom Brady said, you're

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Speaker 1: very nice Jersey. Yeah, Seaton, you and TV twelve are

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Speaker 1: A lot of fun today. Thanks for joining us. We'll

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Speaker 1: do it again tomorrow. Seaton, Paulie, Fritzie and mclovin. Yours

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