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Speaker 1: after the massacre in Texas, Washington is paralyzed. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: President Biden addressed the nation a short time ago, as

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. It's hard to tackle the mid

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Speaker 1: us again on Bloomberg. I hope it's a different conversation

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Speaker 1: next time. Let's bring in Genie Genie Schanzano, Bloomberg Politics contributor,

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Speaker 1: for a quick comment. If I can just go back

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Speaker 1: to Georgia for a second here, Jeanie, how are you

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Speaker 1: calibrating these two losses, I mean not losses? I believe

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Speaker 1: Jessica used the word shellacking. Brian Kemp fifty points. Ravensburger

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Speaker 1: keeps his job, Jody, heis is going to be unemployed.

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Speaker 1: What's the message to Donald Trump? I think the messages

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Speaker 1: voters in any state, but Georgia, being the center of

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Speaker 1: the United States political universe right now, do not want

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Speaker 1: to look backwards. They have enough issues to contend with

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Speaker 1: right now and going forward. Brian Camp has delivered for them.

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Speaker 1: Ravensburger has delivered for them. They like Donald Trump, they

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Speaker 1: say it, but they also like their governor and their

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Speaker 1: they have delivered. And so the key to Donald Trump is,

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Speaker 1: don't make endorsements based on a vendetta. Make them based

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Speaker 1: on what voters want and what's going on in the moment,

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Speaker 1: the old vendetta tour. I know Rick has feelings about

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Speaker 1: that too, and we'll reassemble the panel. Coming up next,

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Speaker 1: Genie and Rick Davis with us here on sound On.

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Speaker 1: We'll get a check on the markets from Doug Chrisner.

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Speaker 1: Interesting after our session here you'll want to hear about

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Speaker 1: and of course traffic as always on the Fastest Hour

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Speaker 1: in Politics, I'm Joe Matthew and Washington. This is Bloomberg.

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Speaker 1: in Politics. Thanks for spending part of your day with

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Speaker 1: glow of another primary night. Unfortunately, it wasn't quite the

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Speaker 1: sense of the narrative. Maybe there's a couple of late

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Speaker 1: night nail biters, but last night it was it was

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Speaker 1: all about Texas. Who was about the president's speech, which

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Speaker 1: trip to Asia. But there was big news on this

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Speaker 1: primary night, including Georgia, as we just discussed with Jessica Taylor,

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Speaker 1: Rick and Jennie here. I had a minute to compare

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Speaker 1: notes with Genie on this Rick, I'm curious just your

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Speaker 1: first blush reaction to a fifty point spread, a double

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Speaker 1: loser for Donald Trump. Yeah, this was a real repudiation

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Speaker 1: of the vengeance tour. Uh, everybody was watching this race

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Speaker 1: the election in to run against him, funded it and

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Speaker 1: campaign hard for him and got as your previous guest said,

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Speaker 1: Shehall lacked and in in in in politics, that's a

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Speaker 1: big deal. Uh, you know, A a six hundred thousand

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Speaker 1: you know, as as it turned out to be. But

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Speaker 1: it is a repudiation of Donald Trump and in his

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Speaker 1: efforts to go after people who refused to deny the

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Speaker 1: action against it. So does put Donald Trump completely into

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Speaker 1: the back seat. No, he will continue to claim victory.

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Speaker 1: He will continue to do these things against people you

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Speaker 1: And uh, and we haven't heard the last of him.

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Speaker 1: But I think this is a good example of the

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Speaker 1: look like here? Jeannie? But part of what Brian camp

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Speaker 1: Here this conversation about the Texas shooting, the fact that

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Speaker 1: You know, I voters will be informed by it. I'm

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Speaker 1: it's going to be a much tougher year, not because

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Speaker 1: fascinating to see this rematch. And Joe Matthew, I love

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Speaker 1: your double loser comment. I'm hoping that that gets picked up.

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Speaker 1: We'll see see what the foreign president Trump has to

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Speaker 1: say about that. Joe, I did not trying to make

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Speaker 1: a nickname. I know, do you remember the gun ad

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Speaker 1: And Brian camp is sitting there, has got a shotgun

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Speaker 1: on the the table next to the couch. Well, listen,

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Speaker 1: I'm Brian Kemp. This is Jake young and interested in

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Speaker 1: one of my daughters. Yes, sir, Jake asked while I

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Speaker 1: was running for governor, I said, one cap government spending

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Speaker 1: to take a chainsaw to Regulations three make Georgia number one.

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Speaker 1: Here in two things, if you go on date or

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Speaker 1: the Second Amendment. Sir, he cocks the gun and a

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Speaker 1: lot of people were offended by this. It helped him, then, Rick,

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Speaker 1: does it potentially hurt him now? Uh? No, I think

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Speaker 1: that this is a very polarized issue, stated Georgia. The

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Speaker 1: not gonna He's not gonna do that in two thousand

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Speaker 1: run that ad this year if he doesn't think it

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Speaker 1: But you know Stacy Abrams would like to start running that.

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Speaker 1: They're probably retweeting it now from back then. And what

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Speaker 1: does this mean for the role that the n r

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Speaker 1: you know, we've got the convention coming up here, and

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Speaker 1: listen to Wayne Lapierre, the CEO of the National Rifle

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Speaker 1: Association here at convention. He is powerful anti freedom, gun hating,

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Speaker 1: anti Second Amendment elites. They gaslight tragedy, They exploit victims

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Speaker 1: every nasty name they can think of to call us,

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Speaker 1: and they demand our surrender while predicting our demise that

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Speaker 1: was held in Texas. The president then President Trump spoke

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Speaker 1: at that event, as did Senator Ted Cruz. Does that

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Speaker 1: line continue here, Rick, You're gonna hear language like that

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, we're gonna We're gonna find out

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Speaker 1: I think what smart candidates like Kemp, and he's proven

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Speaker 1: them in his next ad not with Wayne Lapierre, because

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Speaker 1: there's nothing Wayne Lapierre can do for him in Georgia.

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Speaker 1: But these are real voters in the state of Georgia

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Speaker 1: they're not buying in many cases what Wayne Lapierre selling.

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Speaker 1: We heard from the senior Senator in Texas, John Corny

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Speaker 1: and Genie Uh personal UH spokesperson citing personal reasons for

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Speaker 1: to the tragedy to day in Vivaldi. The statement says,

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Speaker 1: we had already informed me in r A he would

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Speaker 1: not be able to speak due to an unexpected change

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Speaker 1: C for personal reasons. Awfully carefully written Genie. It is

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Speaker 1: if there's any other change of schedules that come up.

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Speaker 1: Ted Cruz, Dan Crenshaw, Governor of South Dakota. Yeah, Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump will probably go, but I know, you know, speaking

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Speaker 1: if we could just underscore the connection between these primaries

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Speaker 1: permissive gun laws in the country, but pole after poll

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Speaker 1: a lot of the power in Texas is decided in

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Speaker 1: the primaries, and the fewer voters who turn out, the

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Speaker 1: more they moved to the right. And so you know,

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Speaker 1: we as voters own this. Voters have got to get

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Speaker 1: out in primary elections. They can't just vote in general

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Speaker 1: elections because state legislatures in particular are decided and that's

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Speaker 1: true in New York on the Democratic side, are decided

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Speaker 1: in these primaries, in these one party states and districts.

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Speaker 1: You saw better or or uh interrupts Greg Abbott today.

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Speaker 1: Uh we played a little bit of that at last,

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Speaker 1: powerful anti phrase. Not the moment I'm talking about. This

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Speaker 1: play on the air. Things got a little bit ugly,

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Speaker 1: and then of course he stepped outside where the cameras

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Speaker 1: were waiting for him. It is absolutely wrong. It is

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Speaker 1: insane the government talks about mental health. It is insane

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Speaker 1: that we allow an eighteen year old to go in

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Speaker 1: and buy an a R fifteen. What the hell did

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Speaker 1: we think he was gonna do with that? This one

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Speaker 1: is on us. What's this governor's race gonna look like

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Speaker 1: in Texas? Rick, Well, you know we talked yesterday is

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Speaker 1: this crisis was unfolding about a hope that we could

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Speaker 1: actually take a step back from the demagoguery and partisanship

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Speaker 1: and try to find solutions to this rather than take

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Speaker 1: advantage of it for political purposes. This is a classic

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Speaker 1: example of taking advantage for political purposes. There was no

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Speaker 1: productive discussion today when he crashed the press conference. He

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Speaker 1: knew what was gonna happen. He knew what was gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: It's a crass political move. Um. You know, I doubt

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Speaker 1: if this is actually gonna do anything but get him

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Speaker 1: on the evening news. And I doubt if he's going

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Speaker 1: to convince one voter who's on the fence of this

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Speaker 1: because of the horrible thing that has occurred, uh, that

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Speaker 1: that somehow he's he deserves their votes. So I think

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Speaker 1: people need to take a step back from this. I

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Speaker 1: don't think these kind of stunts are the way to

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Speaker 1: salute solutions and and if anything, it just starts to

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Speaker 1: harden up everybody else's approach to this at a time

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Speaker 1: when people are are still grieving in that community. So um,

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Speaker 1: you know, look, I I would not have encouraged anybody

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Speaker 1: to do what he did. I would have suggested that

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Speaker 1: there's another way to make your point without, you know,

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Speaker 1: trying to crash a press conference where they're trying to

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Speaker 1: inform the public and inform the community of what what

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Speaker 1: just happened. There's still a lot of questions about this

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Speaker 1: young man who you know, uh, stormed this this elementary

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Speaker 1: school and slaughtered these kids. So I think I think

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Speaker 1: we need to take a step back here and just

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Speaker 1: take a breath and hope we can actually get real

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Speaker 1: reform done in a in a more benign environment. Jennie

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Speaker 1: will bettle 'rourke regret that or is he raising money already?

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Speaker 1: He's been raising money all along and he'll raise more.

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Speaker 1: You know, I agree the politicization is a problem, but

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Speaker 1: you know what, he also displays the kind of urgency

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Speaker 1: that many people are asking for as students and kids

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Speaker 1: are slaughtered in their classrooms. So I give him kudos.

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Speaker 1: His message is right, the timing may have been wrong. Wow,

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Speaker 1: you will not hear conversations like this anywhere else. That's

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Speaker 1: why we welcome you every day to the fastest hour

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Speaker 1: in politics. Many thanks to my colleagues Rick and Jeannie,

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Speaker 1: I'm Joe Matthew and Washington Will meet you here tomorrow

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Speaker 1: as we follow the conversation from the nation's capital. This

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Speaker 1: is Bloomberg