WEBVTT - Patriots Postgame Show 8/19: Preseason Week 2 Takeaways and Reaction 0:00:02.120 --> 0:00:07.640 This is the Patriots postgame Show, First to the Zo touchdown. 0:00:08.039 --> 0:00:11.760 Patriotic with Hardy, Mike Deso and Paul Pirillo is your 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:15.560 source for all the news and information following every Patriots game. 0:00:15.680 --> 0:00:18.480 Hand off the Stevenson On's It Left Bighole Comes the party, 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:22.239 cuts left the forty five at steam rolls the Defender There. 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:25.560 Join the conversation by calling the ACE Ticket hotline at 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:28.720 eight five five Pats five hundred, or email this show 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:30.920 at web radio at Patriots dot com. 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:34.040 I hope y'all keep that same energy for tonight. 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:36.440 Baby can't wait. 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:40.320 Live from our studios inside you Lette Stadium. Here's Hardy 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:41.400 slipping and sliding. 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:47.880 He was like a cat popular fang. All right, don 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:49.880 we begin the Patriots postgame Show. 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:55.920 After the Patriots and Packers game was called with ten 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:59.800 minutes and change left in the fourth quarter, after Isaiah 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:03.520 and suffered an on field injury. He was immobilized. He 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:07.080 was taking off the field on a stretcher. He was 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:11.479 carted off the field and both teams officials ever won 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:15.120 Agreen and we were talking about it here in the 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:18.520 studio as it was happening, and like one of they're 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:21.000 just gonna call this game seemed like the right thing 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:24.080 to do. They did it pretty quickly, and now just 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:28.800 everybody's thinking for hoping for and praying for Isaiah Bolden 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:32.640 as we can only hope, Mike that things are going 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:33.160 to be okay. 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:34.759 Yeah, just jarring. 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:37.000 I mean, I think they did the right thing suspending 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:38.800 the game. I mean that was kind of on all 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:41.520 of our minds is as he was lying motionless on 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:43.920 the field for a while. They kept coming back from commercials. 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:49.240 So disappointing, you know, how it all went down. 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:50.600 It's just sad. You know, I think we're all a 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:51.160 bit jarred. 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:55.360 You're sitting here trying to analyze football and come away 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:58.560 with takeaways and right things, and now it's none of 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:00.880 that really obviously matters. We just are, you know, hoping 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:03.640 that Isaiah Bolden is is is going to be okay. 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:06.880 So hopefully there'll be some kind of update soon that 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:09.120 I know. On the broadcast they were saying that they 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:11.280 they appeared to see some movement, so that's that's a 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:15.000 good sign. But you know, with the demor Hamlin situation 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:17.280 last year, the health and safety of the players is 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:19.919 at the forefront of everybody's mind and it's it's it's 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:21.560 kind of hard to really talk. 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:23.240 About football or anything like that at the moment. 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:24.799 So I don't know, maybe we'll ease our way into 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:26.919 a little bit of that, but at the moment, and 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:28.400 it's it's all about Isaiah Bolden. 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:31.920 Yeah, rookie cornerback Isaiah Bolden. If you if you were 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:35.520 not watching or listening to the game, and again, we're 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:37.919 not gonna we're not going to show footage of it, 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:41.320 and I don't think there's a lot to see any 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:43.720 way on the play. It looks like he appeared to 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:46.239 take a hit to the head from a from a 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:51.800 teammate on what was a completed pass to a Packers receiver, 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:54.360 And it's just one of those things where it looks 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:59.400 like any other football play and you hope that you know, 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:03.440 I I guess best case scenario would be that it 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:08.520 was just something something that he sustained on that play 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:12.760 and maybe was knocked unconscious for a time. He you know, 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:14.680 he didn't appear to be moving when he was down 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:18.399 on the field. But then as as you just said, Mike, 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:22.120 and as as or I'm reading here on Twitter, you 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:22.880 know you're talking. 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:24.799 I'm trying to get updates here too. 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:28.400 Uh, it did appear that he was moving or there 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:30.440 was you know, his feet were moving, or there was 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:34.480 something going on. Obviously they're going to be super super 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:42.320 careful with moving him in that situation. And I guess 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:44.120 that would be the hope right now that it was 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:47.920 you know, something that that you know, maybe he was 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:52.000 unconscious for a moment after after the play or for 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:56.000 a few moments after the play. But you know, any 0:03:57.000 --> 0:03:59.760 any talk about the game, which we'll get into eventually, 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:03.720 just know that that's what we're thinking about. That's what 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:07.160 I think everybody is thinking about, hoping for, praying for 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:10.480 that he's gonna be okay. And you know, the rest 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:17.400 of this is rather inconsequential. And I now we sit 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:20.080 here and talk about it, like I wonder if they're 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:20.680 gonna call it again. 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:23.680 Of course they did. You know, it's it's just it's 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:27.440 the right thing to do preseason game or not. That's it. 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:29.520 You've got a player who's down and is you know, 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:34.600 obviously in some in a very serious situation. All right, 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:36.000 let's stop this, let's go. 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:37.720 So that's what they did. 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:39.560 I think that made that made all the sense in 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:43.760 the world at that point. And yeah, I mean it's 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:47.560 it's it's impossible to speculate. We all saw, you know, 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:51.360 the pitchers. I think, you know, told everybody didn't really 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:54.320 get a chance to see the play again just are live. 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:57.320 I don't think we ever got to got to replay. 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:02.480 But yeah, and it's you could see the the way 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:05.000 the players reacted, you know, that's that's always to me 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:09.360 my tip off. And immediately when he went down, players 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:14.240 from both teams were frantically waving in medical personnel. So 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:17.760 I think you guys said everything that needs to be said. 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:20.640 All we can do is hope that that Isaiah Bolden's 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:21.200 going to be okay. 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:21.640 Yeah, I did. 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:23.320 I mean I did see a couple of replays just 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:25.240 uh on Twitter. I mean it's just you know, kind 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:28.800 of a crossing collision, and you know, yeah, it looked 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:31.120 like I think it was Calvin. 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:33.200 Munson, you know who was. I thought it might have 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:34.440 been him based on his reaction. 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:37.200 Yeah, and uh, you know, Bolden was It almost looked 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:38.840 like he had turned a little bit and and it 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:41.040 just looked like he got swiped, you know, on the 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:42.920 side of that. I don't want to speculate too much, 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:45.640 but it was a quick, quick, bang bang kind of situation. 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:48.120 No, and I think we I think we learned, you know, 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:52.240 the the following that and trying to you know, we 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:55.200 everybody looked at the Damar Hammond Hamlin. 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:57.320 Play over and over again. You know what happened, when happened? 0:05:57.680 --> 0:05:58.880 What do we know? We don't know. 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:03.840 Something, something obviously very serious happened to Isaiah Bolden in 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:08.480 that moment, in that instant and when he was when 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:10.760 he was down motionless on the field. And as as 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:14.400 you said, Paul, when the players from both teams immediately 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:18.320 stop and gather, they know because they're close to the action, 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:21.960 that there's something serious taking place, something serious going on. 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:26.240 We can only hope that it resolves itself and we 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:29.360 get some good news here soon, and we will very 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:32.360 much stay on top of it, and you know, with 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:35.839 with the people that we have in Green Bay, letting 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:38.040 you know, as soon as we find something out and 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:42.960 good news is what we're waiting for right now, which. 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:45.360 Is hopefully something that we can and I think we can. 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:49.200 You know, obviously, that's the story tonight, is Isaiah Bolden, 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:54.560 and obviously that's first and foremost on everybody's mind. But 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:57.320 I do think we can, you know, sort of move 0:06:57.440 --> 0:06:59.400 forward and talk about the game. We'll do a you know, 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:00.599 a good good and the bads. 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:05.840 Yeah, and obviously it's it's with a different kind of 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:08.840 you know, especially for me. 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:11.360 You know, probably not gonna get a lot of snark tonight, 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:15.000 but just in general, probably a different tenor to our 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:17.360 tone and whatnot. But I do think there were some 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:20.160 good and bad things tonight that we, you know, should 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:21.280 probably get into. 0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:23.160 I think we can even skip the good, the bad 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:25.720 and the injured intro just because I don't know, it 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:26.960 just doesn't feel like that. 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:28.880 Type of a mood right now. But let's start. 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:31.560 Uh, let's start with some stuff on the good list here, 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:35.760 and as I I'll keep reiterating, as soon as we 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:38.520 find out something about yeah, about Isaiah Bolden. 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:40.520 Will let you know, we have our phones open. 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:42.600 Everybody's sort of looking and see if we can hear 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:46.080 anything from from our people that are actually at Lambeau. 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:48.880 But in terms of good things that happened on the 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:51.720 field tonight, before that happened, Mike, you want to lead 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:52.280 us off. 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:54.400 Here, Yeah, I thought, uh, I'll start with Kendrick Bourne. 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:55.960 I mean I thought, uh, you know, a couple a 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:57.880 couple of nice catches went up and got one. Just 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:00.680 the kind of performance haven't really seen from Bourn top 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:03.120 of my list, you know, in a while. You know, 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:04.800 I love the catch he went up and got it. 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:07.840 I love the little one on the sidelines as well. So, uh, 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:09.920 you know, he didn't he didn't play a ton of snaps, 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:13.040 but I thought he was, Uh, he was really active 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:14.400 in a way that I haven't seen in a while. 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:17.640 So you know, it's just a guy with positive energy 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:20.480 getting a quality night. I think that'll be uh, that'll 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:22.520 be a nice boost for for Kendrick Borne. Hopefully there 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:24.240 is nice, nice little grab right there. 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:29.040 I tell you what the the elevated catch. Uh, that's 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:32.000 something that I don't know. Is that something that we 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:34.120 can expect to see more of? Is that something you 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:34.920 want to rely on? 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:37.760 Is that something that is the only thing I mean 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:40.520 this is I guess might qualify as snark and I'm 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:42.200 not meaning it to be the only thing I liked 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:45.760 about that play was the result, right, Like that's what okay? 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:48.760 Like I thought that you know, the throw was high. 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:51.640 Bourne does a great job of going to get it. 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:55.839 But I'd rather not see I'd rather not see those 0:08:55.920 --> 0:08:58.120 kinds of plays. Those are the ones that you worry about, 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:02.680 you know, big hits coming and whatnot. But I agree 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:05.240 a thousand percent with with Mike. I thought Born on 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:08.079 that first drive, you know, I my key to the 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:10.120 game was I wanted to see a little offensive rhythm. 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:13.720 I'm not sure I got it, but Born on that drive, 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:17.240 the second and eleven slant this play right here, that 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:19.480 that sets you up. You know, I would have liked 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:22.160 to have see Listen, I'm I'm nitpicking. I would have 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:24.160 liked to have seen it be a little bit crisper 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:27.079 on a twenty yard drive than it was. But I 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:30.160 really liked I really liked that slant from Born. And 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:32.959 that's obviously they threw a ton of slants tonight, So 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:35.840 I think it's safe to say that that's something Billy 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:38.480 O'Brien wants to put in the in the playbook. 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:42.000 We just saw the play right there, the elevated reception there. 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:44.439 It's you know, you say, that's the type of play 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:47.040 where you can get injured. Obviously that's the worst thing 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:49.400 that can happen. There's a ton of other bad things. 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:51.280 Oh yeah, those are the ones that have end up 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:54.400 in deflected interceptions, which is really more what I'm talking about. 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:56.640 A guy goes up, it goes off his hands, easy 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:58.480 pick for the safety way away in the back. 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:03.480 So I agree with Mike. My first one is gonna 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:05.960 be Mac himself. 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:10.520 I thought I thought Mac wasn't great, but I thought 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:13.760 he looked more like rookie year Mac tonight than he 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:17.320 did last year. And I don't have a lot to quantify, 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:19.880 you know. It was six for nine fifty two yards. 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:22.960 It was a little choppy, but I thought his poise 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:26.920 in the pocket was better tonight than what I remember 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:30.280 it last year for most of the season. Maybe I'm 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:33.120 looking at this with rose colored glasses a little bit, 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:35.800 but I thought that I thought he resembled his rookie 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:40.040 year self more so than than he did last year. 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:43.480 And I thought they had some good third down conversions, 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:45.520 you know, not a ton, not a ton of offense. 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:47.559 I mean, I think they had like one hundred and 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:49.920 twenty eight yards in the first half, so it wasn't 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:52.679 a ton, but I thought there were signs there of 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:54.199 better things to come. 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:55.679 You know. 0:10:55.800 --> 0:11:00.439 My first good of the night was the Patriots to 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:05.079 capitalize on that penalty in the end zone and actually score. 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:07.520 We were talking about it as we were watching Douce 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:10.200 and I along with Tamara and Matt and Matt here 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:13.160 because Paul of course is off in the BOP's Discount 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:17.199 Furniture studio, you know, doing your thing called upon for 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:20.960 television duty. But you know, Douce and I were talking 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:24.079 about it's like, you know, that's that's a Patriots you 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:27.559 know conversion right there. You know, you capitalize on a 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:29.160 on a couple of things, kind. 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:31.400 Of bought snap, you know, Like I mean, it was 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:33.800 a little taste of last year, Like do. 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:35.679 You understand what I'm saying that? Like what was the 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:40.160 drive officially? Like twenty two yards? I'll tell you right, so, 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:42.680 and I would feel like if it starts, it starts 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:44.240 with the fumble recovery. 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:46.679 Five yards twenty one, yeah, five place twenty and it's 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:49.280 not surgic when it felt better if it was just 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:53.640 you know, six yards five yards, four yards, eight yards, 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:56.880 four yard touchdown run. Right, it was kind of a 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:58.880 pick three. It was kind of a hardy pick three. 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:03.000 But the fact is when you get gifted a couple 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:05.720 of things and look that you know, the the botch 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:09.240 snap is one thing. You got to recover the fumble, right, 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:12.440 and then when you do get that penalty down inside 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:15.439 in your first and goal. I was just thankful that 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:16.400 it didn't. 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:19.839 Take two or three plays from there to punch the 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:22.959 ball and it would first much definitely about that. If 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:27.880 the fade to Parker was a touchdown me I would too, okay, 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:32.080 But I also at this stage, especially preseason, you're still 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:34.480 working on things and you don't know what the offense 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:36.959 is going to be. I mean, would it have shocked 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:40.280 you if the Patriots came away from that, especially before 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:42.000 the penalty, with only a field goal, And. 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:45.079 It was just that's what I said, looking at it 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:47.840 a lot different, okay, But it wasn't zone. 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:49.760 We'd be looking at it differently and we wouldn't be 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:52.160 all that surprised. It's like, well, you know, it's still 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:53.080 a work in progress. 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:55.559 They didn't have to settle for that. They took advantage 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:58.000 of the things that fell their way. It went down 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:00.280 as my first good of the night, it really yeah, yeah, 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:01.520 and a little. 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:03.360 Bit kind of connected to Paul as My next one 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:07.800 is Remondra Stevenson. You know, mostly just for that one run. 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:09.880 But I thought on that run and I probably got 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:11.120 to go back and look on it, but it felt 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:12.240 like Mac audible to that. 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:15.599 The long run. Yeah, yeah, he did absolutely, So you know, 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:17.079 I think that I don't know how long it was, 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:19.760 but twenty three yards good run, but good run. 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:22.000 You know it wasn't you know again, it wasn't like 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:25.200 it wasn't like a whole you know, just got blown 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:27.360 open and he made a nice cut and then I 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:28.480 thought he accelerated through. 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:30.959 It's right here, just a good run. Yeah, I just 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:32.600 victed Ramondra. I thought he looked good. 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:34.600 I'm going to kind of use that as a platform though, 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:37.160 to to just talk a little bit about Mac, because 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:39.120 what you're saying, Paul is kind of what I felt 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:41.439 a little bit in that first practice where he just 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:43.200 looks a little bit more in command, a little bit 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:45.240 more sure of what's going on. It hasn't you know, 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:48.280 he didn't light the world up tonight, but he looked 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:50.400 like he's recognizing what's coming at him. He's, you know, 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:52.880 got the confidence to change to a run. And and 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:55.760 I think that that was, you know, an example of 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:58.080 a play where you know, it's Mac, it's all, it's 0:13:58.120 --> 0:13:59.440 the whole offense kind of clicking together. 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:01.280 So I give him andre than nod. But but I 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:03.560 think that that was as much connected to Macus as anything. 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:07.439 Yeah, I liked the including that that Stevenson run and that, 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:09.360 you know, the goal line run was not a walk 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:11.679 in either. It was a tough, tough, hard fought run. 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:15.599 I'm gonna go with Jalen Mills as well, who I 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:20.440 thought was really active and quite honestly, I didn't love 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:24.440 much of the other stuff I saw defensively too, but 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:26.880 I thought he was pretty active. I thought he was 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:28.920 around the ball a little bit. I thought he was, 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:32.120 you know, his feisty self is, you know, always got 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:34.640 something to say. I thought he was pretty active, and 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:38.200 he made a play. They ended up not mattering because 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:39.680 they got the first down on the next play, but 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:43.800 he made an unbelievable tackle on a like a I 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:47.000 think it was like third and two, and it didn't 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:49.080 seem like it was possible to stop it short of 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:52.240 the first down, and he did made a great tackle 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:56.640 to prevent the first down. So I thought he was 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:59.320 pretty active in this game tonight, and I didn't really 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:03.280 think many other defensive players were, so he stood out 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:03.480 to me. 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:08.560 What else he got good stuff tonight? Mike, I was 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:10.040 starting to get down to the bottom of the barrel 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:13.840 here probably J Taylor. Yeah, that's that's a good one. 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:17.600 You want to Yeah, he's out, you're taking Yeah again, 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:19.720 this is good. He's this is what he does. What 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:24.720 he does preseason electric little August August, second half, second 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:27.240 third stringers, he's he's ready to go, and you know 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:29.600 he's just you wonder at what point is uh is 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:31.680 it going to translate ever to an actual real game 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:34.760 and and you know, consistent production uh in the NFL. 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:36.320 But you know, every time he gets in there, I 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:38.840 mean it's it's funny because I remember when he was 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:42.480 like a potential undrafted free agent and just saying, you know, look, 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:43.680 I don't have high hosts, but he'd be a lot 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:45.040 of fun to watch in the preseason. And you know, 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:47.720 here we are, three four seasons later, we're still watching 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:51.440 JJ Taylor dance around the preseason football field. So yeah, 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:53.720 that's a fun I appreciate Hardy for feeding me that one, though. 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:56.680 Yeah, I thought he showed a little uh look, JJ 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:59.400 Taylor wiggle. I don't think there's another running back that 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:01.600 they have that as that. Yeah, I mean, I don't 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:04.280 know if it translates to a job, but yeah, he 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:06.160 does have a skill that's the thing that the other 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:07.400 guys in that backfield don't. 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:10.240 Yeah, four carries for twenty nine yards. He had three 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:14.800 catches for another twenty seven So okay, yeah that's three. 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:16.240 That's a good that's a good inclusion. 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:18.320 Hardy, show me, show me a little something there, and 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:21.680 it's enough to keep things moving there and and and 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:25.440 provide a little bit of a spark in it, you 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:27.760 know late in the game where you're wondering, it's like, 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:28.920 well is this it? 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:30.040 Is this all that they have? 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:30.320 Now? 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:32.440 They got a few other things there. I don't know 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:34.920 if it's going to translate anything into the regular season, 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:37.320 but that's you know, when you're called upon to do 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:40.200 something in a game like this at that time, you're gonna. 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:41.800 Do it or not. He did it, well, they'll put 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:42.880 him on the good list. Yeah. 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:45.800 So I'm also going to put Kashawan Boodie on the 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:48.840 good list. Yeah, I got him, just be more so 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:52.240 than tonight. I think that that's what you want to 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:55.800 see from your young guys, like a sending player. I 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:59.680 think he's been coming on a little bit. The last 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:04.040 handful of camp practices that we saw in Foxborough, a 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:06.240 lot of people talked about what he did in the 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:08.959 first day of the joint practices, and he gets an 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:11.520 opportunity to hit that slant. Now that, like I said, 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:14.080 the Patriots threw a lot of these tonight. He you know, 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:16.840 obviously he takes advantage of a bad angle by the 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:19.119 safety there, but you know, you saw some of the 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:22.760 lsu explosiveness, you know, with the ball in his hands 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:24.199 after the catch, no one was catching him. 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:26.280 That's what he did at college. I mean, this looked 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:28.720 like the kind of place he had there. So yeah, 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:34.480 so he called my good list. Yeah he born. 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:40.720 Douglas Adam is a nice third down conversion early on 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:41.359 in the game. 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:44.200 Tell you what I really liked about that particular play 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:47.200 is and Zoe talked about this a little bit on 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:51.600 on the broadcast, sort of read the coverage and sat 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:57.240 in like, I'm not positive that the way we talked 0:17:57.280 --> 0:18:00.320 about on the broadcast is right, but it kind of 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:03.560 looked like they recognized the coverage and threw it back, 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:07.280 you know, like behind him, almost back shoulder on purpose. 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:11.359 And the important thing for Douglas is to recognize that. 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:13.720 And you know that was that was that was a 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:15.240 nice conversion. That was like a third and ten. 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:16.960 I think yeah, third and ten. I mean it's just 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:18.040 like confidence, you know. 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:21.400 I think for Mac you know, young receiver that's those 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:23.639 are the kind of plays that makes those to me, 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:26.359 like he sits there now on first blush, you can 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:27.600 look as it's a bad throw. 0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:29.520 It's behind him. He's supposed to put it on him there. 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:31.600 You don't want to lead him because you lead him 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:33.040 and you're gonna get him lit up. Yeah. 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:35.879 By the way, we have a statement from the Patriots 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:41.879 in Isaiah Bolden. Patriots cornerback Isaiah Bolden sustained an injury 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:44.720 during the fourth quarter of tonight's game. He had feeling 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:48.200 in all his extremities, but has been taken to a 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:51.159 local hospital for further tests and observation. 0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:53.240 I think that's probably about as good as you could 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:56.200 hope for. That's a statement, guess at this hour. 0:18:56.320 --> 0:18:59.320 Yep, good, fine, Okay, Well, we'll take it as we 0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:03.160 can get it, and of course we want the all clear. 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:06.000 That's not going to happen right away now they're going 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:06.600 to check them out. 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:06.920 Yeah. 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:08.560 Well, it's just I mean, I think at this point 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:10.800 you start with DeMar Hamlin, all right, his heart didn't 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:13.800 stop apparently, and he's you know, hopefully not paralyzed, and 0:19:13.880 --> 0:19:15.760 those are you know, the two biggest things to start with, 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:18.440 and you know, hopefully he's able to begin a road 0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:19.040 to recovery. 0:19:19.119 --> 0:19:21.240 But just yeah, good to hear that. 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:25.000 Okay, all right, So I don't know that we're going 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:27.919 to get any more officially uh tonight, but. 0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:30.399 Yeah, but you know, I think you guys are right. 0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:32.360 I think that's that's about as good as you could 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:35.280 hope for right now. I would say, just you know, 0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:37.919 continuing some of these good things that I saw tonight, 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:43.000 I think you could put Zappi in both categories. I 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:46.000 thought he was a little reckless, but he made some 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:49.320 place he's a gamer that he's a gamer. And the 0:19:49.400 --> 0:19:51.639 other thing that it really stuck out to me was 0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:54.440 I thought their coverage tonight and special teams was really good. 0:19:55.800 --> 0:19:58.000 You know, Chris Board. Now they had some penalties and 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:02.280 specialtim Chris Board, Brendan's school, or some punt returns. I 0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:04.960 look like they had some room, they had some space 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:08.679 to operate. They weren't really able to generate a whole lot, 0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:11.399 not without penalties anyway. So those are a couple of 0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:13.120 things that I had scribbled down. 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:17.000 Yeah, I'm kind of down to plays now myself, you know, 0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:19.680 maybe just a couple stick taps, Asho would say in 0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:22.600 hockey fork for Miles Bryant, nice past breakup. 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:24.399 On third and four, excellent third down cut, really good 0:20:24.440 --> 0:20:28.080 third down. I want to give one thank you. Uh 0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:32.760 I also another another third down pass break up for 0:20:32.840 --> 0:20:35.159 Rodney Randall. That that third and eight that that I liked, 0:20:35.200 --> 0:20:37.360 and I got that you would have to make fun 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:41.320 of my hot Rodney Randall him, and uh yeah, there's 0:20:41.440 --> 0:20:43.480 just those two plays specifically. 0:20:42.960 --> 0:20:45.479 I thought we're good coverage, and especially two guys who 0:20:45.840 --> 0:20:47.640 you know, have certainly been been picked on a little 0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:49.800 bit here the last couple of weeks. So nice play 0:20:49.840 --> 0:20:52.399 by Miles and a nice play for Rodney Randall there, right, 0:20:52.480 --> 0:20:54.879 writing coverage and you know, avoiding getting a penalty. 0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:57.639 Yeah, all right, let's get to some of the bads. 0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:01.959 Yeah yeah, let me let me just lead us off, 0:21:02.000 --> 0:21:05.000 because I like to go chronologically with how I kind 0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:07.239 of keep track of these things. That the first one 0:21:07.320 --> 0:21:09.480 I had on the night was after that turnover, the 0:21:09.560 --> 0:21:13.040 false start by Trent Brown. I mean, I'm just it's 0:21:13.280 --> 0:21:15.200 it's exactly what you don't want. 0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:16.920 To see in a preseason game. 0:21:17.000 --> 0:21:19.399 It's like, it doesn't have to be perfect, it doesn't 0:21:19.440 --> 0:21:24.119 have to be flawless, eye popping execution on offense. How 0:21:24.160 --> 0:21:28.040 about when when you when you get the ball and 0:21:28.359 --> 0:21:32.200 it's okay, here's here you go, it's your first play 0:21:32.240 --> 0:21:34.760 from scrimmage, what are we gonna do? The guy that 0:21:34.880 --> 0:21:37.760 everyone's is saying, it's like, oh, you kinda have Trent 0:21:37.800 --> 0:21:41.480 Brown in there and engaged and playing and playing his 0:21:41.600 --> 0:21:43.120 game both mentally and physically. 0:21:43.960 --> 0:21:45.600 And it's the false start that you know. 0:21:45.680 --> 0:21:49.920 On the broadcast, I think they said, any official in 0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:54.360 the league is going to call that. It's glaring, it's obvious, 0:21:54.480 --> 0:21:56.920 it's right there. And that's just after a whole season, 0:21:56.960 --> 0:21:58.080 you got away with it everything. 0:21:57.960 --> 0:22:00.200 I was gonna say. I was like, I'm like, that's 0:22:00.200 --> 0:22:01.880 what he did all last year, Like how many times 0:22:01.960 --> 0:22:04.119 he literally did that college they didn't call it. I 0:22:04.280 --> 0:22:06.240 couldn't believe it. And when they started off. 0:22:06.160 --> 0:22:08.359 With that, there were a handful of times I remember 0:22:08.480 --> 0:22:10.520 last year and I was saying like, wow, I can't 0:22:10.520 --> 0:22:11.480 believe they didn't catch that. 0:22:11.600 --> 0:22:14.440 But I mean it was this one tonight. It's like, 0:22:15.760 --> 0:22:18.719 there's no way he's thinking I can I can keep 0:22:18.800 --> 0:22:21.040 playing like that. And get away with it. I mean 0:22:21.200 --> 0:22:23.000 this one might have been a little bit more egregious 0:22:23.040 --> 0:22:25.639 than the ones last. Yeah, it's just unbelieve, but it's 0:22:25.640 --> 0:22:26.040 still him. 0:22:26.040 --> 0:22:27.960 And I don't know what it says about, like if 0:22:28.000 --> 0:22:29.800 he feels that he doesn't have the speed to get 0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:32.840 out there or what. But either way, they took him 0:22:32.880 --> 0:22:34.240 out of the game because there he's I mean, they 0:22:34.320 --> 0:22:36.720 got Bill Murray playing tackle now, their tackle depth is 0:22:36.800 --> 0:22:39.480 so thin that this guy who's already you know, jumping 0:22:39.520 --> 0:22:42.320 off you know, false starting first play of the series 0:22:42.359 --> 0:22:43.600 of the game, like. 0:22:43.600 --> 0:22:45.480 They got to put him in ice, Like they can't 0:22:45.480 --> 0:22:46.560 afford to lose. 0:22:46.400 --> 0:22:49.040 Him, so they I totally agree with you, Hardy on 0:22:49.119 --> 0:22:54.120 that one. I had him high on my list, and yeah, 0:22:54.840 --> 0:22:56.680 you couldn't play him as long as you played the 0:22:56.720 --> 0:22:57.480 rest of the starters. 0:22:57.600 --> 0:22:59.119 You couldn't bear to lose him right now. 0:22:59.240 --> 0:23:00.760 I mean he played a lot of snaps and the 0:23:00.880 --> 0:23:02.520 joint practices. You would have thought he would have been 0:23:02.520 --> 0:23:04.119 able to at least stay out there for the I 0:23:04.200 --> 0:23:08.120 think it was fifty I have mac for sixteen snaps 0:23:08.440 --> 0:23:11.639 plus two penalties, and he couldn't make it all the way. 0:23:11.600 --> 0:23:13.520 Because the last of those sixteen snaps. He's going to 0:23:13.560 --> 0:23:14.240 show up later in. 0:23:14.240 --> 0:23:16.480 The Yeah, So I just wanted to get that off 0:23:16.520 --> 0:23:18.639 my chest before we start talking about either of the 0:23:18.720 --> 0:23:20.080 MAC or more micro. 0:23:20.280 --> 0:23:23.200 But that's I mean, that was first. But Deuce, you 0:23:23.280 --> 0:23:25.480 want to you want to take it? Next? Run defense, 0:23:25.800 --> 0:23:28.600 Run defense. Holy I had that at the top of 0:23:28.680 --> 0:23:31.480 the list just based on the handful of plays before 0:23:31.520 --> 0:23:34.000 the bad snap. Yeah. Yeah, I was like, what is 0:23:34.080 --> 0:23:35.920 going on here? All the starters are out there, what 0:23:36.000 --> 0:23:38.600 are we doing? I mean, you know, Gotshaw getting pushed around. 0:23:38.720 --> 0:23:41.040 I mean, turnt like it's it's I mean, part of 0:23:41.080 --> 0:23:44.240 it is, you know, preseason and YadA, YadA, YadA. But still, 0:23:44.359 --> 0:23:46.440 I mean, it was it was all game. On the touchdown, 0:23:46.520 --> 0:23:49.000 I think was Zuchain Bledsoe got kind of pinned inside. 0:23:50.400 --> 0:23:52.159 It's just I mean, I think even Bill addressed it 0:23:52.280 --> 0:23:53.960 before halftime. I think that was like one thing that 0:23:54.080 --> 0:23:56.520 even brought up, which even says it's definitely an issue 0:23:56.520 --> 0:23:57.080 if he's willing to. 0:23:57.080 --> 0:23:59.800 Bring it out right twenty two for ninety four yards 0:24:00.160 --> 0:24:02.040 point three to carry in the first half, when you 0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:05.640 basically went wired to wire with your starters on defense 0:24:05.840 --> 0:24:09.240 and they didn't have all the starters on offense, but 0:24:09.359 --> 0:24:12.480 the runs, the running game, even after I think Daron 0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:15.200 Jones only had one carry, you know, Dylan had a handful, 0:24:15.480 --> 0:24:17.240 and then a couple of guys that I wasn't overully 0:24:17.280 --> 0:24:20.800 familiar with were breaking tackles. So yeah, I think that 0:24:20.960 --> 0:24:23.960 was Interchane and Bill saying that at halftime. Mike stood 0:24:24.000 --> 0:24:28.120 out to me too, And unfortunately, I think on the broadcast, 0:24:29.080 --> 0:24:30.399 you know, we misunderstood it. 0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:32.119 And by we, I don't mean me. 0:24:33.920 --> 0:24:35.840 We kept talking about Bill wanted to get more production 0:24:35.880 --> 0:24:37.400 out of the running game. I think he was talking 0:24:37.400 --> 0:24:40.119 about improving the run defense when he was talking to 0:24:40.119 --> 0:24:42.760 Steve Burton at halftime, he said, we got to get 0:24:42.800 --> 0:24:46.119 better against the run. I'm you know, something like that 0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:49.639 that was that was not good, I mean better at 0:24:49.680 --> 0:24:53.359 this time of year. But you have gotcha, guy, Carl 0:24:53.480 --> 0:24:56.800 Davis should be allowing you know, ninety four yards rushing 0:24:56.840 --> 0:24:57.960 in the first half of the game. 0:24:58.160 --> 0:25:00.879 So I absoletely agree with you. 0:25:01.119 --> 0:25:04.240 And I'm just wondering, Deuce, did you see anything that 0:25:04.359 --> 0:25:09.600 they were doing defensively that would have explain that or. 0:25:10.080 --> 0:25:12.440 Were they're just getting out muscled, They're getting unplayed? You know, 0:25:12.600 --> 0:25:15.159 I think that's and and I thought the run defense. 0:25:14.960 --> 0:25:17.399 Was was anything scheme wise that they were allowing for. 0:25:17.520 --> 0:25:20.000 They're like, you know, what does Jordan love He's actually 0:25:20.200 --> 0:25:21.400 he's got a little bit more. 0:25:21.520 --> 0:25:23.760 Yes, yes, there's fairness they did. 0:25:23.840 --> 0:25:25.959 They did a lot of the misdirection stuff, so they 0:25:26.040 --> 0:25:28.200 have to be disciplined and on the edge, which I 0:25:28.240 --> 0:25:29.399 thought they did a really good job of. 0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:31.840 Probably should have teacher Kwis was a nice one. 0:25:31.880 --> 0:25:33.560 Probably should have included that in the good But I 0:25:33.600 --> 0:25:35.320 thought all of the guys on the edge for the 0:25:35.400 --> 0:25:38.600 most part, didn't allow the quarterback that comfortable throw. 0:25:38.600 --> 0:25:41.240 You're supposed to. You do that hard play action and 0:25:41.560 --> 0:25:43.560 the you know, the the misdirection boot. 0:25:43.640 --> 0:25:46.560 Yeah, yeah, usually that Usually it's like they got that 0:25:46.680 --> 0:25:49.119 deep crosser coming. But every time they did it, it 0:25:49.200 --> 0:25:52.879 seemed like the Patriots were in his face and didn't 0:25:53.000 --> 0:25:55.040 let didn't allow him to have the time that you 0:25:55.080 --> 0:25:55.679 would want. 0:25:55.560 --> 0:25:57.120 On those I think I think what you saw too 0:25:57.200 --> 0:25:58.840 on those plays was kind of what I saw from 0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:00.879 love and practice, where you know, like when. 0:26:00.720 --> 0:26:03.119 It's clean, it's good, but like he kind of pants, 0:26:03.160 --> 0:26:05.240 oh man, not there, it's it's it's The first three 0:26:05.320 --> 0:26:07.199 or four plays of the game were a nightmare. For him. 0:26:07.440 --> 0:26:09.640 Now after that, I thought he was pretty impressive. I don't. 0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:12.760 Yeah, well, I want to like talk about him specifically 0:26:12.840 --> 0:26:15.480 a little bit later, so we can we can do that, 0:26:15.680 --> 0:26:18.920 but we'll we'll stick with some of the things that again, 0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:21.560 trying to remain positive here tonight. And by the way, 0:26:21.680 --> 0:26:24.000 if you if you're just like joining us here and 0:26:24.080 --> 0:26:26.720 you're wondering what's going on with Isaiah Bolden, there was 0:26:26.800 --> 0:26:30.240 a statement from the Patriots. They said that Bolden sustained 0:26:30.240 --> 0:26:34.280 an injury. He had feeling in all his extremities, but 0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:37.359 has been taken to a local hospital for further tests 0:26:37.400 --> 0:26:41.359 and observation. So I think that's it's might be all 0:26:41.440 --> 0:26:44.760 we get officially from the team tonight, but so far 0:26:44.960 --> 0:26:47.280 that is that. I will take that as good news 0:26:48.080 --> 0:26:50.840 in terms of what's going on. So but I'm just 0:26:50.920 --> 0:26:53.760 trying to remain positive overall. That's you know, that's gonna 0:26:53.760 --> 0:26:56.359 be my main mantra tonight. So instead of you know, 0:26:56.520 --> 0:26:59.679 bad things that things that could be worked on, how 0:26:59.720 --> 0:27:00.159 about this? 0:27:00.480 --> 0:27:02.840 What else? What else could hey, Paul, what else could 0:27:02.840 --> 0:27:05.240 the Patriots be working on this week? Well? What else 0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:07.280 did I think stood out to me? 0:27:07.520 --> 0:27:12.040 Sam Roberts, some bad discipline, and I was a little disappointed, 0:27:12.200 --> 0:27:14.399 Like and I actually I sent Fred a text in 0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:19.240 the middle of the game. Obviously there was a lot 0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:21.399 of emotion on the field on Thursday. You know, it 0:27:21.520 --> 0:27:23.800 was pretty chippy. I was a little disappointed to see 0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:26.240 that spill over into the game. I would have thought 0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:29.280 with whatever the nonsense was before the game, and I 0:27:29.359 --> 0:27:31.159 saw some footage of that. I don't know if you 0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:34.320 notice it, it looked like our guys ran right through 0:27:34.400 --> 0:27:38.240 there guys in pregame on So I just thought that 0:27:38.359 --> 0:27:40.120 that kind of start, I would have thought there would 0:27:40.160 --> 0:27:43.000 be nothing tonight in this game after the way Thursday's 0:27:43.040 --> 0:27:45.959 practice ended. Sam Roberts is trying to hustle and make 0:27:46.000 --> 0:27:47.640 a play. I don't think there was necessary. I don't 0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:50.600 think there was anything cheap about that. But then the reaction, 0:27:50.760 --> 0:27:52.720 it's like, I'm gonna get up and I'm gonna start 0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:54.960 pushing guys, and guess who comes in from the back. 0:27:55.600 --> 0:27:57.080 Thirteam as always. 0:27:58.520 --> 0:28:03.119 Seeing if this is the pregame right here, Sam Roberts, 0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:06.320 I thought, was a little undisciplined on that play, and 0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:08.880 I was a little It's it's not really about Sam 0:28:08.960 --> 0:28:11.600 Roberts as much to me as it was about the Patriots. 0:28:11.880 --> 0:28:14.600 I thought they looked like the other teams tonight, and 0:28:14.680 --> 0:28:17.000 I sort of think the Patriots are above that. 0:28:18.000 --> 0:28:19.760 You know, maybe that's a me problem. I have to 0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:24.600 start thinking differently. What else he got, dudes? I got 0:28:24.920 --> 0:28:28.640 situational defense. That was you know, a problem last week 0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:30.760 with with giving up you know, a score right before 0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:32.600 the half. And then again they allowed you know, a 0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:34.960 field goal drive right before the half. You know, big 0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:39.000 big play along the sidelines. Tough to tell. Uh if 0:28:39.040 --> 0:28:41.280 he did get both feet down in bounds, I mean, oh, 0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:43.600 he clearly did, did he? Yeah, I don't really understand 0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:48.520 what I should keep my problems, Telecat. My eyes didn't 0:28:48.560 --> 0:28:48.800 see it. 0:28:49.720 --> 0:28:52.959 He got he gets one foot down, clearly the right, 0:28:53.240 --> 0:28:55.720 and then he the he toe tapped the other foot, 0:28:56.480 --> 0:28:59.400 and they sort of tackled him out of bounds to 0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:00.920 lift his foot off the ground. 0:29:00.960 --> 0:29:03.920 But both feet were on the ground. This is the 0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:04.600 ankle right here. 0:29:04.920 --> 0:29:07.720 Now you watch here do such a great job of 0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:13.240 getting these plays. Okay, so he's he's got the ball. Now, 0:29:14.360 --> 0:29:18.880 foots down, second foot tap right there. Watch the grass 0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:21.280 comes up, you can see it. And then they lift 0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:23.560 them up off the ground and he goes out of bounds. 0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:26.200 If he like had tapped the toe and then the 0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:28.400 heel came down out of bounce, it would be incomplete. 0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:30.840 But I think his foot comes off the ground here 0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:34.960 and he has two feet left foot in his hands, 0:29:35.880 --> 0:29:37.360 right foot down right there. 0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:39.400 See. I think initially I thought he I didn't think you. 0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:44.560 Would just you would just like Bobbin, I thought. So 0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:47.760 the first replay I saw, I looked at I said, 0:29:47.840 --> 0:29:51.720 he's in. And then we're getting the you know like 0:29:51.800 --> 0:29:55.640 when you you have all the sort of whatever the 0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:57.560 in stadium, like the live feed. 0:29:57.640 --> 0:29:57.920 I don't know. 0:29:58.120 --> 0:30:00.760 Yeah, I'm not a television veteran. I don't know what 0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:03.840 all those different feeds are called. But we were listening 0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:05.360 to the referee talked to the truck. 0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:06.040 Yeah. 0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:09.160 Oh I wasn't, but oh yeah, the you know, the 0:30:09.240 --> 0:30:13.120 guy that's with me in the studio is and yeah. 0:30:13.560 --> 0:30:16.600 They kept saying like, oh, he's other foots out of bounds. 0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:18.120 I think it's his left foot they said, was out 0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:19.960 of bonds. I was like, no, his toes in. 0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:22.800 So that it took me until seen at this time 0:30:22.920 --> 0:30:26.040 right now to realize, No, what I see is what 0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:27.880 you pointed out. The first time, Paul is that he 0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:32.160 drags the left foot long before that that foot, the 0:30:32.240 --> 0:30:34.320 foot comes up after he drags it the first time 0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:37.120 he has the ball. So to me, the point in 0:30:37.160 --> 0:30:40.360 the play is actually before what we're looking at right now. 0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:42.600 It's a little bit before that. He's got a drag 0:30:42.760 --> 0:30:46.160 that happens early on in the catch here and now 0:30:46.200 --> 0:30:47.000 we got the rewreck. 0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:47.320 Thank you. 0:30:47.600 --> 0:30:49.960 It is the left foot drag. You see the grass 0:30:50.120 --> 0:30:54.280 come up was left foot right after. 0:30:56.200 --> 0:30:58.520 Yes, that I mean that he's got the ball and 0:30:58.600 --> 0:31:00.560 that foots down and the other foot click comes down. 0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:02.440 Yeah, you can see the grass coming up there. So 0:31:02.520 --> 0:31:04.960 that's from the toe, left foot got down, right foots in. 0:31:05.400 --> 0:31:05.960 It's a catch. 0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:06.360 Yeah. 0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:08.160 The only thing was to me is like does he 0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:10.680 actually secure it? And then when I saw the replay, 0:31:10.680 --> 0:31:12.920 it was like he clearly had it, he never lost 0:31:12.960 --> 0:31:13.480 control of it. 0:31:13.720 --> 0:31:14.360 We reviewed it. 0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:16.640 Great catch, great play. I mean, I thought the covers 0:31:16.680 --> 0:31:18.680 was pretty good. That's like one of those plays where. 0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:21.840 That was a terrible throw. That's the only thing I 0:31:21.880 --> 0:31:23.239 could say about that. But Jordan love. 0:31:23.360 --> 0:31:25.480 But but to the bigger point though, it was just 0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:28.440 you know that situational football, and you know as much 0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:31.000 as you can maybe pars away run defense in the 0:31:31.360 --> 0:31:34.520 like situational football in the preseason, it's hard to really 0:31:34.560 --> 0:31:35.719 have a flow of your defense. 0:31:36.080 --> 0:31:36.600 So I get it. 0:31:36.720 --> 0:31:38.640 But still two weeks in a row, you've given up 0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:40.560 a score right before the half. A couple of years ago, 0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:42.000 that was a problem for this defense. 0:31:42.120 --> 0:31:43.280 So that was another one. 0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:46.080 That's just something to minute drive after the Patriots tied 0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:50.360 it to allow that, to allow that field goal at 0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:52.000 the end of the half. I totally agree with you, Mike, 0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:53.480 that's worth talking about again. 0:31:53.840 --> 0:31:56.040 A lot of they were driving to at that, you know, 0:31:56.080 --> 0:31:57.880 when they ended the game. I mean that was you know, 0:31:57.960 --> 0:32:00.000 a yeah. I mean they were going to cheat. 0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:01.680 They were going to score at the end of the game, 0:32:01.760 --> 0:32:04.000 but there was still a lot of time over ten 0:32:04.040 --> 0:32:05.920 minutes left. The Patriots might have gone down and scored 0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:11.120 again too. But the slants I thought were a problem 0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:13.440 for both teams. But I thought the slants were a 0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:15.880 problem with Clifford in the game. Looked like he was 0:32:16.080 --> 0:32:18.360 every every third down, every third down, he was just 0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:20.800 finding someone to throw a slant to and had no 0:32:20.920 --> 0:32:21.520 problems with it. 0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:27.040 Didn't like Gonzales again tonight. Uh. I liked his tackle 0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:29.960 on third down. I was gonna. I thought that I 0:32:30.040 --> 0:32:31.800 liked it better if it was you know before the 0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:37.040 first album was well, wasn't the third and nine? Yea, 0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:39.760 yeah it was. It was late. It was late in 0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:43.360 the game. I don't know. I I could have swear 0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:45.200 in the second half tackle. 0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:47.360 Okay, I'm not talking about anything in the second half, 0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:48.560 because that's all the backups were. 0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:50.080 In the first half. He was abused. 0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:52.800 I think he was off coverage again. Some of it 0:32:52.960 --> 0:32:55.560 was zone, some of it. I don't like his lack 0:32:55.600 --> 0:32:58.360 of physicality. He's not playing as well in the two 0:32:58.400 --> 0:33:00.239 games as he does every day in practice. I love 0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:03.160 him more in practice. I think I'm going to disagree 0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:04.680 a little bit. I thought he was more physical to 0:33:04.800 --> 0:33:05.880 night than he was last week. 0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:09.240 I thought that the PI he got on tough call. 0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:12.160 Accurate call, but I thought that he showed pretty impressive 0:33:12.200 --> 0:33:14.200 makeup speed to get back into the guy in phase 0:33:14.280 --> 0:33:16.400 with the guy. I'm not totally disagree with that. He 0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:18.320 had a good game. I just think for me, he 0:33:18.480 --> 0:33:20.320 looked like he looked a little bit better this week 0:33:20.320 --> 0:33:20.720 than he looked. 0:33:20.760 --> 0:33:22.440 I will say I agree with you on the PI. 0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:24.640 It was a penalty, but I didn't think it was 0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:27.040 a terrible play by him. Yeah, it's a tough I mean, 0:33:27.080 --> 0:33:27.640 it's a tough call. 0:33:27.640 --> 0:33:29.040 A lot of guys are gonna get caught and get 0:33:29.080 --> 0:33:30.760 toasted by that. And I just was like, wow, he 0:33:30.840 --> 0:33:33.000 at least was able to make up and make it competitive. 0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:35.960 Well he, I mean he did get beat, but when 0:33:36.000 --> 0:33:38.000 the throw was short and the receiver has to come 0:33:38.080 --> 0:33:41.240 back and he goes through the defense, like, I don't 0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:43.240 really think it was terrible coverage. In other words, I 0:33:43.320 --> 0:33:45.840 thought that was the least of my problems. I know, 0:33:45.920 --> 0:33:48.200 one of them was a zone that he gave up 0:33:48.760 --> 0:33:50.920 a catch on the side, just to me when the 0:33:51.000 --> 0:33:54.480 balls were caught by that. But this might not have 0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:56.400 been his guy, you know, so let me let me 0:33:56.480 --> 0:33:58.840 just state that maybe this was all zone and it 0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:00.920 wasn't all his fault when he was the closest guy. 0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:04.280 I didn't like the way he like he had won 0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:05.920 that he go over and shouldered the guy when he 0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:08.320 was virtually out of bounds already. And of course we 0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:11.600 went crazy about it, but I didn't. I just didn't 0:34:11.880 --> 0:34:14.480 like you know, his Yeah, this this is the p 0:34:14.680 --> 0:34:17.319 I right, that's an unfortunate play. I agree with Mike 0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:20.239 on this, I think it's a penalty, but I don't 0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:22.120 think he get He got beat initially in the move 0:34:22.200 --> 0:34:25.279 and then he fo see how she see how how 0:34:25.400 --> 0:34:28.200 short the throw was, he bumps them. 0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:31.160 He bumps them right here. But when the balls in 0:34:31.239 --> 0:34:32.719 the air right right there. 0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:37.480 Now again, I'm with Mike, my league, those aren't penalties, 0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:40.640 just like the one on the uh on Booty wasn't 0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:42.560 a penalty to me that they called at the end 0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:45.480 of the first half. Like Booty makes a double move 0:34:45.600 --> 0:34:47.799 and the guy standing there and Booty runs over him. 0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:50.120 What's he supposed to do? Right? 0:34:51.200 --> 0:34:51.239 Like? 0:34:51.360 --> 0:34:53.160 I didn't think either one of those are penalties. But 0:34:53.320 --> 0:34:55.120 in this league, those are penalties. I hate that. 0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:56.759 I hate them. 0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:02.399 How about one that I think we can all agree on? Now, 0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:05.920 I don't know, and I wasn't watching him specifically and 0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:11.600 closely enough throughout the night, but the plays specifically stubor 0:35:13.000 --> 0:35:17.759 after the fumble or strip sack, whatever it was, he 0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:21.120 got beat badly. He got beat, and then he looks 0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:24.120 at the ball on the ground, as Matt Lapan said 0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:28.239 in a moment of Cam Newton like self preservation, kind 0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:30.840 of like looking at the ball like now. 0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:32.840 I'd like to give him the benefit of that. 0:35:33.239 --> 0:35:34.960 I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt 0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:37.959 and think like he thought it was an incomplete pass, 0:35:38.040 --> 0:35:40.320 there's no point in jumping on it. I ha's a 0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:41.680 preseason football game. 0:35:42.000 --> 0:35:44.560 Watch Mac get pile drive. Did you see that? Did 0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:47.320 you catch that? Real time? Paul ninety four? Just but 0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:50.239 but watch Stubor once the ball is on the ground. 0:35:50.360 --> 0:35:52.279 I don't know that you watched mac watch mac ready. 0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:56.600 Well that's a little cheap. Yeah, I did not notice that. 0:35:56.800 --> 0:35:59.080 That's a little bit cheap. Yeah, yeah, watch he just 0:35:59.160 --> 0:36:01.000 of course it was. I mean it was after about 0:36:01.040 --> 0:36:02.120 seven other fights. 0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:02.279 In this game. 0:36:03.120 --> 0:36:05.200 In the in the wider angle shot, you can see 0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:07.399 Stubor kind of like watching the ball the first one 0:36:07.440 --> 0:36:09.440 that we saw, and it's like, oh, look at that, 0:36:09.960 --> 0:36:12.200 Oh isn't it isn't that interesting? 0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:14.480 I totally agree with your party. I also just I 0:36:14.560 --> 0:36:17.520 almost put that more party. I think, party, party, party. 0:36:18.120 --> 0:36:20.000 I almost put this one more on the Patriots because 0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:22.759 you have no left tackles, Like Andrew Stubert was never 0:36:22.840 --> 0:36:25.000 a left tackle in college. He's playing left tackle like, 0:36:25.080 --> 0:36:26.440 it's fine, he should have gotten the ball. 0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:28.800 Our left tackles the only ones that are supposed to 0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:29.800 jump out loose balls. 0:36:29.880 --> 0:36:31.640 I get it, but it's still I know you're you're 0:36:31.680 --> 0:36:35.680 talking about his reaction most I'm talking about a guy. 0:36:35.600 --> 0:36:40.000 Who said, I don't know, is he definitely on the team. No, no, okay, no, 0:36:40.200 --> 0:36:42.480 but he might have to because they have no other tackles. Okay, 0:36:42.520 --> 0:36:46.040 but he's not a lock like my one roster projection did. Not. 0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:48.399 If I wanted to play football that I think I'd 0:36:48.440 --> 0:36:50.120 be jumping on on the loose ball. 0:36:50.200 --> 0:36:52.319 Oh, here we go again, the mac pile drive one 0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:56.719 more time. Let's see it. Ready. You're kind of overstating 0:36:56.800 --> 0:36:59.439 that he looks like he reacted to the ball. Yeah, 0:36:59.600 --> 0:37:01.400 we're not. We're not. We're not getting it. We're not 0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:06.960 getting a great And I didn't think the way I 0:37:07.000 --> 0:37:08.440 thought he was hurt in real. 0:37:08.400 --> 0:37:12.520 Time it was noticeable. Watch, let's watch it again. Here 0:37:12.600 --> 0:37:14.440 we go, he's looking at it. 0:37:14.560 --> 0:37:18.080 He got up and immediately lunched to the ball. I 0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:19.760 don't think it was as bad now that I've actually 0:37:19.840 --> 0:37:22.480 focused the whole time. He was watching, not getting And 0:37:22.480 --> 0:37:24.320 now I'm like, I mean, could he have just like 0:37:24.680 --> 0:37:26.960 lunched at it me? I don't know. I don't say 0:37:26.960 --> 0:37:27.919 that he lunged at the ball. 0:37:27.960 --> 0:37:30.480 When he steps up and does the double hitch, and 0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:33.120 it's like, maybe I'm going to try and get myself 0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:33.719 over there. 0:37:33.680 --> 0:37:37.440 To get on football. Just be bad, And he's like, 0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:43.480 all just reason to scamper right, the ball was on 0:37:43.560 --> 0:37:47.080 the ground. He reacted to it. Oh okay, well here 0:37:47.520 --> 0:37:52.160 I watch okay, he got up one and immediately went 0:37:52.280 --> 0:37:53.480 I mean he had no chance at it. 0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:55.680 You're right, he's moving just as fast as all the 0:37:55.719 --> 0:37:57.239 other guys who actually made it to the ball. 0:37:58.040 --> 0:37:59.080 You're right. I have a question. 0:37:59.520 --> 0:38:02.000 I'm being I'm being too rough. I have a question 0:38:02.080 --> 0:38:04.279 on this play. What constitutes defensive holding. 0:38:05.880 --> 0:38:08.000 When you hold the guy past two yards of the scrimmage? 0:38:08.200 --> 0:38:11.200 He rips him down. Watch watch when he comes around. 0:38:11.440 --> 0:38:13.960 If we can rewrap that guys. I love when we rewrap. 0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:14.439 I don't. 0:38:14.719 --> 0:38:17.440 All I know is that I just love throwing crap out. 0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:20.600 As he comes around the corner fifty five? Was that 0:38:20.760 --> 0:38:23.640 uh a goomble what's what's his name? Yeah, you got it, 0:38:23.840 --> 0:38:25.080 the goomble wale something like that. 0:38:25.200 --> 0:38:29.480 I don't know. He watch watch him, you see him 0:38:29.520 --> 0:38:34.960 he rips him down by the shoulder. Yeah, Like is 0:38:35.080 --> 0:38:39.320 it can that be holding you guys don't see it? 0:38:39.360 --> 0:38:41.279 Huh might be at home. I'm sorry, who am I 0:38:41.320 --> 0:38:42.040 looking at? I don't know. 0:38:42.160 --> 0:38:45.440 The guy who beats Stuber grabs him by the shoulder 0:38:45.560 --> 0:38:48.600 and pulls him down and pulls him down right there? 0:38:49.800 --> 0:38:53.560 Oh yeah, that's interesting. Is can that be? Is that legal? 0:38:53.760 --> 0:38:56.120 Or is that? Can that be? Holding men? I mean, 0:38:56.320 --> 0:38:58.040 I don't ask for a friend. I mean, on one hand, 0:38:58.080 --> 0:38:59.520 I would say he was already kind of passed. 0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:02.080 I don't know he got I'm not trying to defend 0:39:02.080 --> 0:39:04.200 stubor I'm asking if that's a penalty. 0:39:04.360 --> 0:39:07.800 That's all I thought you were saying offensive holding, no defensive. 0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:10.120 I was looking at like guys downfield. Well, there's like 0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:12.960 twenty two guys out there. It's so hard. It's actually. 0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:17.560 I was talking about the guy who knocked the quarterback down. Okay, 0:39:17.880 --> 0:39:20.840 you may have noticed it when you weren't. 0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:22.280 Making fun of him for not recovering the fumble. 0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:26.800 You know what, he he made a heady play, and 0:39:26.960 --> 0:39:29.600 I salute him, put him on the good list. 0:39:30.200 --> 0:39:32.759 I didn't say he made a heady play. Let's see, 0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:35.600 you's got I got to take it ridiculous. Tom Comror 0:39:35.640 --> 0:39:37.200 with a little pat in the back from Mac Jones. 0:39:38.040 --> 0:39:42.279 I'm not sure I like that. I was just watching 0:39:42.320 --> 0:39:45.600 Mac Jones get violated each time on that replay. But uh, 0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:50.080 that was that was unfortunate. Okay, how about uh I 0:39:50.160 --> 0:39:52.840 had sixty four sack, by the way, I had sixty 0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:57.000 four sack. How about so beating on that third and 0:39:57.160 --> 0:39:58.719 nine for another sack. 0:40:00.120 --> 0:40:02.000 I know, I know that's what's been going on. That's 0:40:02.000 --> 0:40:04.840 what's been going on, actually going on. Yeah, no, on 0:40:04.960 --> 0:40:06.560 the good list too, No no, no, no, no, no no. 0:40:08.040 --> 0:40:10.879 I thought the pass protection right up until the last 0:40:10.920 --> 0:40:13.680 play where Stuber gets beat was pretty good. 0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:13.920 Yeah. 0:40:14.360 --> 0:40:17.360 I thought even on that sack that's so allowed, I 0:40:17.440 --> 0:40:19.480 thought it was a covered sack. I thought Mac had time, 0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:22.120 you know, so gets beat. You can see him, he's 0:40:22.120 --> 0:40:25.320 on he gets bull rushed there. But I thought he 0:40:25.400 --> 0:40:27.800 had time to step bank throw and then all of 0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:31.160 a sudden aheah, you know it. This wasn't the same 0:40:31.239 --> 0:40:33.680 as the strip sack. In other words, I mean, the 0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:36.040 strip sack was immediate, and Riley Reef. 0:40:36.000 --> 0:40:38.080 Is also getting just walked right back in the Mac too. 0:40:38.200 --> 0:40:42.000 But yeah, and I thought Mac did a good job 0:40:42.160 --> 0:40:47.000 otherwise of sort of navigating the pocket moving up internal clock. 0:40:47.080 --> 0:40:49.319 That the play that he ran near the goal line 0:40:49.360 --> 0:40:51.359 on second and goal when he slid. Oh, by the way, 0:40:51.360 --> 0:40:52.840 did you see him looking for a flag on that. 0:40:53.080 --> 0:40:56.800 As much as I say I liked the way he 0:40:56.880 --> 0:40:58.080 looked tonight, he had to throw one of. 0:40:58.080 --> 0:40:58.640 Those in there. 0:40:59.320 --> 0:41:01.279 Is that Eric was queuing up the videos and having 0:41:01.360 --> 0:41:04.279 him ready to go here in a moment's notice. Chris, 0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:10.400 great job again this week. Unbelievable, well done. Every everything 0:41:10.440 --> 0:41:12.839 we're talking about there and it's just bomit's right up there. 0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:14.640 It's it's almost like a real show. 0:41:15.680 --> 0:41:17.800 So I being not afraid to throw the ball into coverage. 0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:18.000 No. 0:41:19.239 --> 0:41:21.120 Three, four or five guys that good or bad? I 0:41:21.400 --> 0:41:23.200 think it's a great thing. But he did make some 0:41:23.320 --> 0:41:23.800 good plays. 0:41:24.080 --> 0:41:27.200 I mean the play that he the little dump off 0:41:27.239 --> 0:41:28.600 at the end of the first half when he was 0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:30.480 under a lot of pressure. He was kind of scrambling 0:41:30.480 --> 0:41:32.640 around and he found JJ Taylor. It's good play. 0:41:33.880 --> 0:41:36.760 Do we have other specific bads we want to get to? Obviously, 0:41:37.160 --> 0:41:39.319 the the only injury that we're going to be talking 0:41:39.360 --> 0:41:42.400 about is Isaiah Boldene and the Patriots have released his 0:41:42.480 --> 0:41:45.800 statement saying he had feeling in all his extremities and 0:41:45.880 --> 0:41:49.320 that he was taken to a local hospital to be 0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:52.560 checked out. So I'm taking that as good news right now. 0:41:52.760 --> 0:41:53.400 Trey Nixon. 0:41:53.719 --> 0:41:56.759 Trey Nixon looked like that was significant. That was that 0:41:56.960 --> 0:42:00.560 was also looked like you were afraid. 0:42:00.600 --> 0:42:03.400 It was like, I think it broken arm or I 0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:07.040 think it is you think so, Yeah, that's what it 0:42:07.080 --> 0:42:11.120 looked like to me live and they they made an 0:42:11.160 --> 0:42:13.520 announcement again in the truck that it was a shoulder 0:42:13.600 --> 0:42:14.440 injury they're calling it. 0:42:14.520 --> 0:42:16.640 But the guy just lands right on his arms you 0:42:16.680 --> 0:42:19.080 can see, and it looks like they're popping out or breaking. 0:42:19.120 --> 0:42:21.239 I don't want to make anybody, you know, queasy, but 0:42:21.400 --> 0:42:23.400 right there it looks like it turned it away it's 0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:27.040 not supposed to. And then he immediately grabs you see 0:42:27.040 --> 0:42:30.720 he grabs here on the arm. He doesn't grab his shoulder. 0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:33.839 And that's not an easy bone to break. I played 0:42:34.000 --> 0:42:35.799 in high school with a kid who broke that bone. 0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:41.040 It's not it's not pretty. The humorous, well, that's funny 0:42:41.600 --> 0:42:41.879 at all. 0:42:42.880 --> 0:42:46.080 I And again, we don't know, and that that's also 0:42:46.160 --> 0:42:48.359 kind of the problem with watching some of these things 0:42:48.440 --> 0:42:51.239 in replay. I bet you could zoom in on any 0:42:51.360 --> 0:42:55.520 number of contacts, whether it's on the line or after 0:42:55.640 --> 0:42:58.120 a tackle, and think like, oh my god, how are 0:42:58.160 --> 0:43:00.719 you gonna, you know, recover from that. There's all kinds 0:43:00.719 --> 0:43:03.479 of things that look bad. That one looks bad even 0:43:04.040 --> 0:43:06.880 you know, in context of everything else that's going on, 0:43:07.120 --> 0:43:10.000 just the way it kind of bends. But he wasn't 0:43:10.000 --> 0:43:12.480 announced with anything other than his shoulders, so we don't know. 0:43:12.800 --> 0:43:14.960 I'll just hope that I'll. 0:43:14.840 --> 0:43:17.239 Throw one more at you bad another bed. I'm just 0:43:17.320 --> 0:43:19.360 going to say, Sean Wade on the on the crosser 0:43:19.440 --> 0:43:19.879 on the TV. 0:43:20.280 --> 0:43:23.200 Yeah, and I thought that he had been making head 0:43:23.280 --> 0:43:25.480 and that's more why, because otherwise I would have just 0:43:25.560 --> 0:43:27.600 been kind of like, eh, but he had a good 0:43:27.680 --> 0:43:29.520 he had a good couple of days and uh, you know, 0:43:29.600 --> 0:43:32.000 it's just kind of one of those inopportune times he 0:43:32.080 --> 0:43:33.560 allowed it just when you look on I had a 0:43:33.640 --> 0:43:37.440 Sean Wade theory that you know, maybe I'm thinking twice 0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:42.880 about now. So if Jack Jones is part of the equation, 0:43:42.960 --> 0:43:44.759 it's Jack Jones and Gonzalez. And by the way, there's 0:43:44.760 --> 0:43:47.480 another positive element tonight was those two guys starting. 0:43:47.880 --> 0:43:48.320 I liked that. 0:43:50.239 --> 0:43:52.600 But if he can't play, and like, if you need 0:43:52.680 --> 0:43:57.440 someone else on the outside. My Sean Wade's performance the 0:43:57.560 --> 0:43:59.920 last couple of days, you know, week plus, I think 0:44:00.000 --> 0:44:02.759 he's been around the ball a lot this camp is 0:44:03.040 --> 0:44:05.120 wouldn't he be a better option on the outside than 0:44:05.360 --> 0:44:06.200 like Miles Bryant. 0:44:06.560 --> 0:44:06.960 I think so. 0:44:07.040 --> 0:44:09.640 I mean, honestly, Marcus Jones. Marcus Jones got a lot 0:44:09.680 --> 0:44:11.680 of snaps on the outside in Green Bay. 0:44:11.880 --> 0:44:14.080 Yeah, I mean, unfortunately, I would have I would have been, 0:44:14.400 --> 0:44:16.239 you know, saying Isaiah Bolden, you know, I mean I 0:44:16.280 --> 0:44:18.680 think before he unfortunately got hurt, he was, you know, 0:44:18.760 --> 0:44:19.839 getting picked on a little bit. 0:44:19.920 --> 0:44:22.799 But Wade Bolden one of those guys. They might they 0:44:22.840 --> 0:44:23.879 might need one of those guys. 0:44:24.080 --> 0:44:27.319 Yeah, So just something to keep in mind. I think 0:44:27.440 --> 0:44:33.520 Wade's size might be more attractive than like it. 0:44:33.560 --> 0:44:35.239 Might be like right tackle, you just might not have 0:44:35.320 --> 0:44:37.200 a choice. You just have to play somebody there. And 0:44:37.320 --> 0:44:39.160 I hope that that that they get it, or that 0:44:39.480 --> 0:44:40.400 you know, somebody else. 0:44:40.320 --> 0:44:42.560 Is obviously best case is if you could get Jones, 0:44:42.640 --> 0:44:45.640 Jones and Gonzales, those three guys, and then you have 0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:49.080 Marcus Jones and whoever else you want, if it's Brian, 0:44:49.200 --> 0:44:53.120 if it's Wade, whoever. Yeah, but my my take development 0:44:53.239 --> 0:44:55.200 was that Wade could get a job over Brian because 0:44:55.200 --> 0:44:57.200 they don't really need Brian as a punt returner or 0:44:57.239 --> 0:44:59.879 anything like that. They have some depth of that spot, although, 0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:02.400 like you said, you're losing a little of the return 0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:08.600 depth of Bolden's injury tonight. And you know it's hard 0:45:08.640 --> 0:45:10.560 that the way those those roster spots are going to 0:45:10.600 --> 0:45:12.640 be tough to to predict. 0:45:12.960 --> 0:45:16.359 Yeah, all right, let's uh, let's move on here. We'll 0:45:16.360 --> 0:45:18.040 start taking some of your phone calls here at eight 0:45:18.080 --> 0:45:21.560 five five PATS five hundred. You can also email web 0:45:21.680 --> 0:45:27.720 radio at Patriots dot com. What we will begin with Colleen. 0:45:27.800 --> 0:45:31.280 It was in Houston, Colleen, thanks for your patients. Welcome 0:45:31.320 --> 0:45:32.799 into the Patriots postgame show. 0:45:32.880 --> 0:45:41.640 Hi Colleen, Colleen. Colleen already's off to a good start. 0:45:42.320 --> 0:45:46.880 This is not my fault. Colleen going once, Colleen going twice. 0:45:47.800 --> 0:45:52.120 Colleen is not there? All right? Oh that's not listen. 0:45:52.840 --> 0:45:55.320 That was a sound effect added by Matt Morrell. That 0:45:55.480 --> 0:45:55.840 was not me. 0:45:56.480 --> 0:45:59.080 Jake and Australia will be there. He's found that literally 0:45:59.160 --> 0:46:00.759 on the other side of the world, and he's there. 0:46:00.880 --> 0:46:01.320 Hijake. 0:46:02.680 --> 0:46:04.560 I thought I was bad to get hottie there we go. 0:46:04.840 --> 0:46:05.160 Thank you. 0:46:07.640 --> 0:46:17.200 So unfortunate ending to the game. Yeah, yeah, yeah, unfortunate ending. 0:46:17.480 --> 0:46:20.960 But one thing I really didn't like was how Zap 0:46:21.000 --> 0:46:25.759 the sit Nixon up to fail. That that hurt to 0:46:25.760 --> 0:46:26.719 watch that party. 0:46:28.000 --> 0:46:30.360 Set Nixon up to fail. What do you mean just 0:46:30.400 --> 0:46:34.200 by putting the ball up and with a few guys 0:46:34.360 --> 0:46:34.920 I didn't take it. 0:46:35.480 --> 0:46:36.480 He was never a good option. 0:46:37.920 --> 0:46:42.040 Yeah, I don't know. I don't think Paul all right, 0:46:42.080 --> 0:46:44.399 go ahead, But all right, Jake, hopefully have a point. 0:46:44.480 --> 0:46:46.400 I mean, I will say that, and I made the 0:46:46.440 --> 0:46:49.879 comment earlier. Zappy had no trouble throwing the ball into 0:46:49.920 --> 0:46:51.920 coverage time, But I don't think he set him up 0:46:51.920 --> 0:46:52.279 to get hit. 0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:54.560 There was a ball on the sideline. Yeah, I bet 0:46:54.560 --> 0:46:57.399 I wouldn't call that. I think that was unfortunate. Yeah, 0:46:57.400 --> 0:47:00.040 he was just tangled up and landing came down on him. 0:47:01.719 --> 0:47:03.640 And then a boy Cunningham. 0:47:05.160 --> 0:47:07.719 There are three guys around him. Yeah, you know, Jake, 0:47:07.800 --> 0:47:09.560 I see your point a little bit more as I'm 0:47:09.560 --> 0:47:12.560 watching the replay. There are three guys right right around him, 0:47:12.600 --> 0:47:13.200 surrounding them. 0:47:15.440 --> 0:47:19.399 Yeah, that is triple coverage. Yeah, yeah, he did treat 0:47:19.480 --> 0:47:21.480 him like he was Calvin Johnson. There for a second. 0:47:21.520 --> 0:47:22.959 That's that's true. 0:47:23.200 --> 0:47:27.560 Yeah, that's not necessary and probably not gonna this. This 0:47:27.680 --> 0:47:30.600 is the thing when you're watching Zappi in these games, 0:47:31.239 --> 0:47:34.160 You're you're watching a guy who is probably trying a 0:47:34.239 --> 0:47:37.480 little bit of everything to get something to click, get 0:47:37.560 --> 0:47:41.120 something to work, get something to pop, make the difference, right, because. 0:47:40.840 --> 0:47:43.920 What he looked like today. Yes, I'm not taking a checkout. 0:47:44.080 --> 0:47:48.960 I'm throwing it into coverage. Try what's that about the 0:47:49.160 --> 0:47:50.120 about the play to Booty? 0:47:50.200 --> 0:47:50.480 What now? 0:47:51.840 --> 0:47:51.880 So? 0:47:52.000 --> 0:47:53.920 Yeah, he does the one to Nixon and then all 0:47:53.960 --> 0:47:56.600 of a sudden, couple of plays later he throws an 0:47:56.760 --> 0:47:57.680 booty Yeah. 0:47:59.040 --> 0:48:01.640 Right, you know what? And Jake, thanks for the call, buddy, 0:48:01.840 --> 0:48:05.759 I appreciate you. Uh Gooday? Was that was the booty play? 0:48:05.800 --> 0:48:08.600 The one that I remarked to you when we were 0:48:08.640 --> 0:48:11.360 watching the game, douce I said, that's the type of 0:48:11.400 --> 0:48:13.920 play if you're watching it from the other side. From 0:48:13.920 --> 0:48:15.440 the other side, I think it was earlier in the 0:48:15.480 --> 0:48:17.959 game actually, but there were there were a couple of plays, 0:48:18.000 --> 0:48:20.719 a couple of Patriots completions tonight. Why I say, you know, 0:48:20.840 --> 0:48:22.960 we look at that one like, all right, nicely done. 0:48:23.560 --> 0:48:25.480 When you flip the script and you watch it from 0:48:25.719 --> 0:48:28.640 a Packers perspective, all you see on that one is 0:48:28.880 --> 0:48:33.200 a blown coverage, just an absolute breakdown in who's supposed 0:48:33.239 --> 0:48:37.400 to beware And it's it's just it's instructive only in 0:48:37.480 --> 0:48:40.560 that you got to take these things, you know, as 0:48:40.640 --> 0:48:42.839 they as they truly are, and we're gonna we're gonna 0:48:42.880 --> 0:48:45.040 look at the bright side whenever we can, and we're 0:48:45.080 --> 0:48:46.840 going to try and you know, you know, find the 0:48:47.480 --> 0:48:50.000 you know, the positive outcome. But if it's the one 0:48:50.000 --> 0:48:51.839 I'm thinking of, I think it was like as much 0:48:51.880 --> 0:48:54.919 a breakdown and coverage as it was. And I can't 0:48:54.920 --> 0:48:56.480 remember if it was the it was the completion of 0:48:56.520 --> 0:48:58.120 Booty or not. It may have been at or earlier, 0:48:58.560 --> 0:49:00.560 much earlier playing the game when Mac Jones. 0:49:00.360 --> 0:49:03.279 Was still They definitely had trouble with the slants. Yes, 0:49:03.840 --> 0:49:05.959 they had trouble with them all night, and the ones 0:49:06.040 --> 0:49:08.600 that weren't complete were generally because the throw was off. 0:49:08.719 --> 0:49:11.840 That's not the that's not the ones the reference. 0:49:11.960 --> 0:49:13.960 No, that's just that that is just a dime and 0:49:14.040 --> 0:49:15.200 that's a great reception for. 0:49:15.280 --> 0:49:16.120 Me, But it is it is. 0:49:16.440 --> 0:49:18.719 It's a it's a it's an excellent throw and catch. 0:49:18.800 --> 0:49:22.680 But like yeah, that safety is way out of this safety. 0:49:22.360 --> 0:49:23.920 Is out of position. What do you what do you want? 0:49:24.080 --> 0:49:26.680 You know, reminded me of the Miami fourth bound play 0:49:26.800 --> 0:49:29.960 last year and opening Day to Jalen Waddle. 0:49:30.760 --> 0:49:33.640 Oh yeah, okay, yeah, I remember that gone right up 0:49:33.680 --> 0:49:36.200 the middle, yes, okay, yeah. Whereas it's it's a catch 0:49:36.239 --> 0:49:37.839 and it should be a catching a first down because 0:49:37.840 --> 0:49:41.040 safety can't. The offense executed the play properly, but it 0:49:41.120 --> 0:49:43.839 can't be a touchdown, right, it should stop there? Right, Yeah, 0:49:43.880 --> 0:49:46.279 that's a good that's a good callback from the steel trap. 0:49:46.640 --> 0:49:50.160 There's it's I know it's and that's what's so hard. 0:49:50.200 --> 0:49:51.600 It's like, you know, I think everybody you look at 0:49:51.640 --> 0:49:53.640 your team, you're like, all right, well were they in 0:49:53.719 --> 0:49:55.800 off coverage? And you know they were just in a 0:49:55.840 --> 0:49:57.280 little slant that's hard to defend. 0:49:57.400 --> 0:49:59.880 And but to Paul's point, the tackle, I would say 0:49:59.920 --> 0:50:01.320 the too with the bourn those are you know some 0:50:01.520 --> 0:50:04.080 RPO stuff too, which is you know, encouraging to see 0:50:04.400 --> 0:50:06.320 that that first born catch one. That's that one that 0:50:06.480 --> 0:50:08.520 was a look for a little week of that next week? 0:50:10.120 --> 0:50:12.000 How about Spi and Fresno, what's going on? 0:50:12.200 --> 0:50:16.239 Speed greeting gentlemen, agree with like every point. I thought 0:50:16.400 --> 0:50:19.439 Jake from State Farm Australia was right off the bat 0:50:19.480 --> 0:50:20.320 with a triple coverage. 0:50:20.320 --> 0:50:23.080 I thought it was triple coverage absolutely, yeah, But I 0:50:23.120 --> 0:50:24.680 don't think that had anything to do with the injury. 0:50:25.120 --> 0:50:28.600 Like I just know it wasn't a hospital ball, yeah right. 0:50:28.600 --> 0:50:29.080 Yeah, probably. 0:50:29.120 --> 0:50:30.640 I don't think it was a hospital ball either yet. 0:50:30.880 --> 0:50:32.840 But it was a bad decision by ZAPPI. 0:50:33.280 --> 0:50:36.920 Yeah, I thought, I'm trying to look on the bright 0:50:37.000 --> 0:50:39.760 side with Mac because I'm kind of maybe negatively biased 0:50:39.760 --> 0:50:41.840 against the guy, and maybe it's unfair he seemed to 0:50:41.880 --> 0:50:45.359 hit or miss like in the first quarter. 0:50:45.440 --> 0:50:46.120 I would agree with that. 0:50:46.200 --> 0:50:49.200 I think there was a pass downfield where Parker he 0:50:49.239 --> 0:50:51.439 missed Henry. I thought Henry was opened, yep. 0:50:52.200 --> 0:50:55.239 Oh yeah, he didn't throw it to Henry, right, he 0:50:55.320 --> 0:50:57.719 threw it to the outside. Yeah, Henry, is that the 0:50:57.760 --> 0:51:00.960 one space? Yeah, I agree with you. I agree with you. 0:51:01.080 --> 0:51:03.400 He missed him, and I thought he overthrew Parker. I 0:51:03.440 --> 0:51:04.960 thought he had a chance to make a play. Although 0:51:05.600 --> 0:51:07.880 why Parker could have made a better player on the ball. 0:51:07.800 --> 0:51:10.720 In that I wanted to to talk about the Parker 0:51:10.800 --> 0:51:14.040 thing because that's a that one was the case where 0:51:14.040 --> 0:51:16.800 Parker is just not fast enough. Like if if Parker's 0:51:17.080 --> 0:51:18.960 not a contested catch guy, but he's a little bit 0:51:19.080 --> 0:51:23.239 faster than that, that's a very catchable ball. But maybe 0:51:23.280 --> 0:51:25.600 it's just not the right receiver for that pass. But 0:51:25.800 --> 0:51:28.480 maybe that's the wrong way to look at it. I 0:51:29.120 --> 0:51:33.320 also I don't like that point. Yeah, I like. I 0:51:33.400 --> 0:51:35.279 like Pop Douglas for what he maybe can be for 0:51:36.200 --> 0:51:37.919 like his binky potential is high. 0:51:40.400 --> 0:51:40.760 Binky. 0:51:41.600 --> 0:51:45.440 I like Pop Douglas him being like without Jacoby Myers 0:51:45.480 --> 0:51:49.360 given given, giving Max something that's reliable in you know, 0:51:49.440 --> 0:51:52.680 short yardage situations that you know can make him more comfortable, 0:51:52.680 --> 0:51:53.759 give him a little security mink. 0:51:53.880 --> 0:51:55.759 You know what's I'm gonna use that if you don't mind, 0:51:55.760 --> 0:51:59.040 I'll give you credit whenever I can. But binky potential, 0:51:59.320 --> 0:51:59.759 that's good. 0:52:00.120 --> 0:52:00.600 I like it. 0:52:03.480 --> 0:52:05.839 Is that something that gets used a lot around here. See, 0:52:05.920 --> 0:52:08.040 I like this one on this one we're showing right here, 0:52:08.080 --> 0:52:10.000 which is like I mean, I just I mean, I 0:52:10.080 --> 0:52:11.600 know it went for two yards. It's nothing to write 0:52:11.640 --> 0:52:14.080 home about, but we must have shown this play sixty 0:52:14.200 --> 0:52:17.160 But just the fact that look the two guys stop boom. 0:52:17.200 --> 0:52:18.759 You know, that's just a little glimpse of what he 0:52:18.840 --> 0:52:21.560 can do. You know, he's just got good abillity. Turned 0:52:21.600 --> 0:52:23.520 that two yard loss into a two yard game. Man, 0:52:23.600 --> 0:52:25.200 I'll tell you I'm trying to make a point. I 0:52:25.360 --> 0:52:27.120 like the other play. I look quick, I can watch 0:52:27.160 --> 0:52:29.000 the other play. I can stop on a dime and 0:52:29.080 --> 0:52:31.040 make people miss that I don't see. I don't see 0:52:31.080 --> 0:52:32.920 the game as well as you guys see it. No, 0:52:33.080 --> 0:52:34.120 I did, don't. 0:52:34.360 --> 0:52:38.280 I did think it was that adjustment to the pass 0:52:38.360 --> 0:52:41.920 right there. I like this play, Okay, I like this adjustment. 0:52:43.000 --> 0:52:45.120 This one I can see, and this one I get 0:52:45.800 --> 0:52:49.200 the Douglas play we're watching beforehand, the two yard loss 0:52:49.239 --> 0:52:51.840 and did the two yard gain after we watched it 0:52:51.960 --> 0:52:54.319 three times on the broadcast, and I saw a lot 0:52:54.360 --> 0:52:59.880 of people and then I saw like nineteen people men 0:53:00.400 --> 0:53:03.520 on Twitter, someone else in the room. There's literally one 0:53:03.640 --> 0:53:06.439 guy there who over runs them. I'm like, maybe maybe 0:53:06.440 --> 0:53:08.640 I got maybe got blocked in the back on second. 0:53:09.080 --> 0:53:10.880 I don't see it to that extent. 0:53:11.160 --> 0:53:12.560 Well, this is this is what I would compare it 0:53:12.600 --> 0:53:14.560 to when a guy gets hit in the backfield and 0:53:14.640 --> 0:53:16.280 he still makes it back to the line of scrimmage. 0:53:16.280 --> 0:53:18.040 You know, like all right, that's nothing great about it, 0:53:18.239 --> 0:53:20.360 like you are. But those are the little players that 0:53:20.480 --> 0:53:22.800 just shows some traits. But the difference is his quickness 0:53:22.880 --> 0:53:24.800 he can get. I'm not saying that that the play itself. 0:53:24.840 --> 0:53:27.000 I'm just showing the traits that he demonstrates there. 0:53:27.280 --> 0:53:30.200 They translate, I love your comp I love your comp 0:53:30.320 --> 0:53:33.480 The difference is no one talks about the guy who 0:53:33.600 --> 0:53:35.200 made the guy miss in the backfield to get back 0:53:35.200 --> 0:53:37.680 to the line of scrimmage ten minutes after the play. 0:53:40.000 --> 0:53:43.640 We're actually three hours after we've seen it. And I'm 0:53:43.680 --> 0:53:46.880 not making fun of you. We showed that play, did 0:53:46.960 --> 0:53:49.320 you numerous times? No, I didn't know. I didn't know. 0:53:49.320 --> 0:53:50.719 I thought I was alone of being like, well, he 0:53:50.719 --> 0:53:52.759 looked a little quick there at least, But no, I 0:53:53.280 --> 0:53:55.879 like Douglas. I liked that. Like I said, I really 0:53:56.040 --> 0:53:59.560 liked his adjustment on that first play. But it's just 0:53:59.800 --> 0:54:00.520 those two catches. 0:54:00.640 --> 0:54:00.920 Was that it. 0:54:01.400 --> 0:54:04.080 Yeah, I was a little disappointed that he didn't get 0:54:04.160 --> 0:54:06.200 more run. I wonder if they're trying to keep him 0:54:06.280 --> 0:54:08.640 under wraps, but I would think they need if you're 0:54:08.640 --> 0:54:11.400 gonna have banky potential, you need to get raps with them. 0:54:11.520 --> 0:54:13.640 Yeah, so you can earn trust, like on those kind 0:54:13.680 --> 0:54:15.920 of plays where it's you know, bang bang gotta sit 0:54:16.000 --> 0:54:16.640 down on his own. 0:54:16.920 --> 0:54:21.560 Yep. Oh, well we're not gonna break. We're not gonna 0:54:21.600 --> 0:54:22.440 talk about it anymore. 0:54:22.480 --> 0:54:22.840 I don't know. 0:54:22.920 --> 0:54:28.440 Oh we are all right, good? 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I think my boss. 0:59:17.320 --> 0:59:21.440 On the table, no threat, no threat there live from 0:59:21.480 --> 0:59:23.480 our studios inside you Lett Stadium. 0:59:23.800 --> 0:59:24.680 Here's Hardy. 0:59:28.440 --> 0:59:32.040 That was when Andy joined us last week, but not 0:59:32.200 --> 0:59:33.720 this week, not this week. This would not be the 0:59:33.760 --> 0:59:36.320 show for Andy. Yeah. No, you just you. 0:59:36.880 --> 0:59:39.360 You've had tastes in the past of what it's like 0:59:39.480 --> 0:59:41.240 doing one of these shows with Andy Hart. 0:59:41.360 --> 0:59:44.320 Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah. No, he's he's intense, but 0:59:45.000 --> 0:59:49.360 when he's on a lot, he's a lot four spokesman. Now, 0:59:49.400 --> 0:59:51.920 I guess yeah, apparently I've been trying to get him 0:59:51.960 --> 0:59:55.160 to slide me a case. How's that working out? Yeah, 0:59:56.160 --> 0:59:57.280 Product hats have been shipped. 0:59:57.560 --> 1:00:02.480 The update from uh from the Patriots on Bolden. On 1:00:02.640 --> 1:00:05.680 Isaiah Bolden, who is the reason why the game was 1:00:06.000 --> 1:00:09.080 called with ten minutes twenty nine seconds left in the 1:00:09.160 --> 1:00:12.760 fourth quarter after he sustained an injury on the field, 1:00:14.080 --> 1:00:17.880 The team released a brief statement saying that he had 1:00:17.960 --> 1:00:22.720 feelings in all of his extremities and this is again 1:00:22.800 --> 1:00:26.680 these things are carefully worded. At the time, He's said 1:00:27.160 --> 1:00:31.240 feeling in all his extremities, but has been taken to 1:00:31.320 --> 1:00:34.720 a local hospital for further tests and observation. I don't 1:00:34.720 --> 1:00:37.200 mean to like read into this, you know too much, 1:00:37.560 --> 1:00:40.520 but the word butt in there has me thinking that's 1:00:40.680 --> 1:00:45.840 actually positive, Like, yeah, he was doing okay, but I 1:00:46.000 --> 1:00:48.400 still wanted to take him to the hospital, taking the hospital. 1:00:48.520 --> 1:00:51.400 So that is I'm taking that as positive right now, 1:00:51.440 --> 1:00:54.560 and that's the way it is. That's the important thing 1:00:54.640 --> 1:00:58.200 here tonight is we go through this Patriots postgame show 1:00:58.320 --> 1:01:01.680 and talking about the what we did see on the 1:01:01.760 --> 1:01:06.240 field there in Green Bay tonight. The final score is 1:01:06.600 --> 1:01:08.560 not really a final score because they didn't play the 1:01:08.720 --> 1:01:11.000 entire game, but it was twenty one to seventeen Patriots, 1:01:11.080 --> 1:01:12.480 so we'll continue. 1:01:13.640 --> 1:01:16.360 Yeah, you got the over Oh jeez, I didn't even 1:01:16.360 --> 1:01:19.480 think about the freaking over unders. I think those get 1:01:19.720 --> 1:01:20.760 washed this week. 1:01:20.840 --> 1:01:22.600 You know, it wasn't a five and one for Paul 1:01:23.160 --> 1:01:25.160 Oh no, I don't think I know, four and two 1:01:25.240 --> 1:01:27.040 for Mike. I don't think we count any of three 1:01:27.080 --> 1:01:30.600 and three for well. I mean, who's to say the 1:01:31.120 --> 1:01:33.960 sack numbers wouldn't have gone that? You know, Okay, Well, 1:01:34.000 --> 1:01:36.840 that is true, that is true. 1:01:37.920 --> 1:01:41.800 Who's to say Malik Cunningham wouldn't have so actually have. 1:01:42.000 --> 1:01:44.320 If you want to change it, you go one on 1:01:44.400 --> 1:01:47.080 one the other way. Never mind, never mind, because you 1:01:47.120 --> 1:01:48.800 were the only one that got the snaps. 1:01:48.880 --> 1:01:50.640 Right now, that's right, Well, maybe I can can I 1:01:50.680 --> 1:01:52.360 throw this Gonzales play to the guys in the truck, 1:01:52.400 --> 1:01:53.240 see if they can pull it up. 1:01:53.240 --> 1:01:56.720 See if you're uh. I'm glad that you said that 1:01:57.160 --> 1:01:59.880 by a truck. I don't know that I'm gonna speak 1:01:59.880 --> 1:02:04.480 to Lingo that racket. There's no truck. Yeah, hey, we 1:02:04.680 --> 1:02:07.000 rack it, re rack it in the truck. I'll teach 1:02:07.040 --> 1:02:09.840 you now, they're just launch. I asked. 1:02:10.000 --> 1:02:12.919 I asked Mike about that play because I really didn't 1:02:13.000 --> 1:02:15.360 remember it. And now I feel like I'm being a 1:02:15.400 --> 1:02:17.480 little too hard on Gonzales because that play happened in 1:02:17.520 --> 1:02:18.200 the second quarter. 1:02:18.360 --> 1:02:21.680 Second quarter with so that's three forty six left. The 1:02:21.720 --> 1:02:22.960 play idea is eighteen eighty eight. 1:02:23.000 --> 1:02:25.760 And if you have that God, yeah, So I don't 1:02:25.760 --> 1:02:27.200 know if the guys can take it up third and nine, 1:02:27.880 --> 1:02:29.120 three forty play. 1:02:29.160 --> 1:02:31.440 I D, Well, that's on the Jesus the Jesus. I 1:02:31.520 --> 1:02:33.240 don't think they use that. I don't know this is 1:02:33.360 --> 1:02:34.920 p I D. I assume it said play I D. 1:02:35.040 --> 1:02:37.720 Maybe I don't know maybe I D P I D. 1:02:37.840 --> 1:02:40.160 May that's play I D. Perhaps I don't know, i'd 1:02:40.200 --> 1:02:42.120 need to know. It's just a P I D quarter 1:02:42.440 --> 1:02:45.240 situation play description. It's the only one who is always 1:02:45.280 --> 1:02:48.320 using the Jesus. It's the word play I D see. 1:02:48.320 --> 1:02:49.880 All right, here we go. And then I'm like, oh, 1:02:50.040 --> 1:02:52.920 he's going to get this one, and just okay, that's 1:02:52.920 --> 1:02:53.440 a good tackle. 1:02:53.800 --> 1:02:55.960 I don't remember that play, and I wondered, I asked 1:02:56.040 --> 1:02:57.560 deu So I was like, thanks, guys, By any chance 1:02:57.680 --> 1:03:00.440 was I talking at the time, Because if I'm actually 1:03:00.520 --> 1:03:03.800 doing one of one of my hits, I'm not always 1:03:03.960 --> 1:03:06.240 I can't look at the monitor if I'm on camera, 1:03:07.600 --> 1:03:09.320 and you know, God knows, why wouldn't you want me 1:03:09.400 --> 1:03:09.800 on camera? 1:03:09.960 --> 1:03:12.160 Yeah, you got your Pierre strung End thing in too. 1:03:12.440 --> 1:03:16.040 I did. I did. Went a long way to Grandma's 1:03:16.080 --> 1:03:18.120 house on that one. I actually, I actually I got 1:03:18.160 --> 1:03:20.120 another question for you, Paul Out. Sometimes I'm talking and 1:03:20.160 --> 1:03:22.480 I just say, just stop Lane, Oh, I hate that. 1:03:22.800 --> 1:03:25.560 H Any thoughts on Kevin Harris tonight, I'm just curious 1:03:25.680 --> 1:03:28.200 what your pedestrian. Yeah, I thought there were a couple 1:03:28.240 --> 1:03:30.320 of plays that that he had that there was yards 1:03:30.360 --> 1:03:32.760 to be made that kind of runs hard, but he 1:03:32.840 --> 1:03:35.439 goes down quick. He had a lot of touches. Yeah, 1:03:35.520 --> 1:03:38.080 a lot of touches. I mean I was looking at 1:03:38.120 --> 1:03:42.880 it one years and I thought it was a little 1:03:42.960 --> 1:03:46.360 better in the second half, but not much. Yeah, it 1:03:46.400 --> 1:03:47.920 seemed like you get a head of steam going and 1:03:48.000 --> 1:03:50.320 I thought he'd blast somebody, you know, run over somebody 1:03:50.440 --> 1:03:52.640 or and it just he couldn't seem to kind of this. 1:03:52.760 --> 1:03:55.040 Was the stretch where I thought he was he was okay, Well, 1:03:55.080 --> 1:03:57.440 he had the the he moved the chains on the 1:03:57.520 --> 1:03:59.400 third he moved it, but he moved the chance on 1:03:59.480 --> 1:04:02.560 a good three yard run. You know, he dragged a 1:04:02.640 --> 1:04:04.400 tackle there for an extra couple of years. But then 1:04:04.440 --> 1:04:05.600 there's one run coming. 1:04:05.720 --> 1:04:06.320 This is the one. 1:04:06.760 --> 1:04:11.520 There's more yards there for that play. I thought maybe 1:04:11.560 --> 1:04:16.000 even that one too, you know, And I just brought 1:04:16.080 --> 1:04:18.920 up the you know, the point during the broadcast that 1:04:19.120 --> 1:04:21.840 you know, it's kind of interested to see how he'd respond. 1:04:22.200 --> 1:04:22.360 You know. 1:04:24.000 --> 1:04:26.360 Yeah, I probably felt like he had an opportunity, you know, 1:04:26.480 --> 1:04:29.200 like I would liked to have seen him, you know, 1:04:29.720 --> 1:04:31.200 I mean a little more productive. 1:04:30.880 --> 1:04:34.720 Watching this game. Yeah, he's a big guy, he's a 1:04:34.800 --> 1:04:36.680 thick guy, but there's just not a lot of pop 1:04:36.760 --> 1:04:37.880 really that that I'm seeing. 1:04:38.000 --> 1:04:42.200 But let's get to some of these emails here Weber Radio, 1:04:42.360 --> 1:04:46.160 Patriots dot com. Uh Todd and Garner said, very sad 1:04:46.280 --> 1:04:50.520 game outcome. One takeaway is that our line play is 1:04:50.720 --> 1:04:54.480 seriously icky on both sides of the ball. I know 1:04:54.560 --> 1:04:56.640 it's preseason, but I hope they find a way to 1:04:56.760 --> 1:05:00.080 shore it up. Felt that Bolden was coming on and 1:05:00.120 --> 1:05:02.680 I really hoping that he is okay for his and 1:05:02.760 --> 1:05:03.600 his family's sake. 1:05:03.800 --> 1:05:05.840 Yeah, and that's from Todd for sure. 1:05:06.720 --> 1:05:09.200 Nothing we haven't really seen, you know, I mean, and 1:05:09.200 --> 1:05:11.560 I mean I thought it was interesting that even yesterday 1:05:11.600 --> 1:05:13.520 Adrian Clem when he spoke, was like, we got to 1:05:13.560 --> 1:05:15.720 get we just haven't been able to have any continuity. 1:05:15.760 --> 1:05:18.400 We've been trying to like scramble and and get guys in, 1:05:18.600 --> 1:05:20.360 and you know, at a certain point there's just no 1:05:20.440 --> 1:05:22.080 more excuses. The season's going to start and you got 1:05:22.160 --> 1:05:23.960 to roll with what you have. But I think it's 1:05:24.000 --> 1:05:26.280 Paul kind of touched on in the pregame. You're just 1:05:26.400 --> 1:05:28.040 hoping you can get them when you and strange and 1:05:28.200 --> 1:05:30.120 just you know, at least get the guys that you 1:05:30.240 --> 1:05:32.240 wanted there in the middle for four fifths of it 1:05:32.760 --> 1:05:35.320 and then just figure it out at right tackle. I mean, 1:05:35.320 --> 1:05:36.880 I don't think that that's the worst position in the 1:05:36.920 --> 1:05:38.680 world to just try to have to figure it out at. 1:05:39.840 --> 1:05:43.600 But you saw today how quickly it can change a game, 1:05:43.680 --> 1:05:46.200 you know, with with blown all it takes one. 1:05:46.280 --> 1:05:48.800 It's a really good point because I thought offensively, they 1:05:48.840 --> 1:05:52.919 were probably feeling decent about themselves until that strip sack. Yeah. Yeah. 1:05:54.600 --> 1:05:58.360 Prayers for Isaiah Bolden is from uh Daniel formally from 1:05:58.440 --> 1:06:02.760 Eugene uh he said on a football note though, Is 1:06:02.840 --> 1:06:04.160 it possible they're trying to. 1:06:04.760 --> 1:06:05.400 Do too much? 1:06:05.720 --> 1:06:10.560 With Malie Cunningham kick returner, inside and outside receiver, possible 1:06:10.680 --> 1:06:14.920 special teams gunner, potentially quarterback, alternate. How can a rookie 1:06:15.160 --> 1:06:18.880 handle such a large transition? Does it poply possibly take 1:06:18.920 --> 1:06:23.480 away from his effectiveness in any one singular role, even 1:06:23.560 --> 1:06:27.320 Taysom Hill and essentially a red shirt year for playing 1:06:27.360 --> 1:06:29.640 any role on the team in twenty seventeen? 1:06:29.800 --> 1:06:31.760 Well, what do we see him do tonight? Like it 1:06:31.800 --> 1:06:33.720 felt like tonight was we got to see if we 1:06:33.760 --> 1:06:35.600 can get him going as a receiver a little bit, right? 1:06:35.760 --> 1:06:35.920 Yeah? 1:06:36.000 --> 1:06:39.120 Can I I want to you guys can tell me, 1:06:39.240 --> 1:06:42.760 I might have to. Wasn't Taysom Hill initially a special 1:06:42.800 --> 1:06:43.280 teams guy? 1:06:44.080 --> 1:06:44.280 Well? 1:06:44.480 --> 1:06:46.520 And I also don't know what Taysom Hill did in 1:06:46.640 --> 1:06:49.760 preseason games. Maybe they had him all over the place too. 1:06:50.320 --> 1:06:52.360 My pushback would be where Mike is going with this, 1:06:52.600 --> 1:06:55.200 Like I based on what I saw tonight, I would 1:06:55.200 --> 1:06:57.040 take quarterback and put it on the back burner a 1:06:57.080 --> 1:06:59.560 little bit. It looks like they're trying to make him 1:07:00.120 --> 1:07:03.120 a receiver slash special teams guy, and that's his road 1:07:03.200 --> 1:07:03.720 to the roster. 1:07:03.960 --> 1:07:05.960 I think it's good that they're trying him out in 1:07:06.040 --> 1:07:08.280 a few different places to see, Okay, where is he 1:07:08.320 --> 1:07:10.960 going to fit? Because we think he's you know, as 1:07:11.320 --> 1:07:13.760 as we know, Bill loves he's a football player. 1:07:13.960 --> 1:07:15.640 He can he can play the game. 1:07:16.040 --> 1:07:18.880 We're just not sure exactly where and how we can 1:07:19.040 --> 1:07:19.640 utilize him. 1:07:20.280 --> 1:07:23.160 So I just I mean, we've watched I don't know, 1:07:23.400 --> 1:07:26.160 fifteen sixteen practices. I haven't seen anything out of him 1:07:26.280 --> 1:07:28.800 as a receiver. I mean it's he looks nice when 1:07:28.840 --> 1:07:30.280 he you know, it does a little QB draw or 1:07:30.320 --> 1:07:31.880 read option or something and he's running. 1:07:31.960 --> 1:07:34.360 But you know he had the I mean, you know, 1:07:34.400 --> 1:07:36.400 everybody talks about the one handed booty catch, and then 1:07:36.480 --> 1:07:39.720 Andy came in here coming hot about what a terrible 1:07:39.800 --> 1:07:42.640 throw it was. So you know, I like, I understand 1:07:42.680 --> 1:07:45.400 why everyone wants the Cunningham thing to happen, and you know, 1:07:45.480 --> 1:07:47.600 to have maybe have that element and a new, exciting, 1:07:47.680 --> 1:07:49.160 dynamic guy to play with upfront. 1:07:49.240 --> 1:07:52.200 But I don't know what you saw tonight. He didn't 1:07:52.200 --> 1:07:54.160 look comfortable to me as a receiver. It looked a 1:07:54.160 --> 1:07:56.400 little bit kind of lost, And you know, yeah, I 1:07:56.440 --> 1:07:57.000 would agree. 1:07:58.640 --> 1:08:01.120 I just hope that they if they're going to keep him, 1:08:02.800 --> 1:08:06.160 I hope that they continue to try to develop as 1:08:06.200 --> 1:08:06.720 a quarterback. 1:08:07.240 --> 1:08:07.600 That's all. 1:08:07.880 --> 1:08:10.120 If they've decided, you know what, this is too much 1:08:10.160 --> 1:08:12.480 of a project, we don't have time for this, then 1:08:12.480 --> 1:08:14.440 I'm fine with that too. But if they're going to 1:08:14.520 --> 1:08:16.400 keep him around and they want him to do it, 1:08:16.520 --> 1:08:19.200 like I kind of agree with the the email, because 1:08:19.320 --> 1:08:20.680 if you're going to try to keep him around to 1:08:20.760 --> 1:08:22.439 be a special team or in a wide receiver, put 1:08:22.520 --> 1:08:24.120 him on the practice squad and let him develop and. 1:08:24.320 --> 1:08:26.679 Be a quarterback, right That's what we thought. 1:08:26.720 --> 1:08:31.439 Anyway, Now, you know, the pushback is that you don't 1:08:31.439 --> 1:08:33.400 think you can get him on the practice squad. If 1:08:33.400 --> 1:08:36.439 you don't you don't like I'm not I'm with you. 1:08:36.560 --> 1:08:39.200 I'm not efully interested in the slash player. If he 1:08:39.240 --> 1:08:41.000 could be a quarterback, I'm interested in that. 1:08:41.240 --> 1:08:44.559 If he can, I wouldn't really have too much worry 1:08:44.560 --> 1:08:46.000 about getting him onto the practice squad. 1:08:48.360 --> 1:08:52.320 Nathan Shower, PhD says, I, I know the topic of 1:08:52.439 --> 1:08:54.960 commercial breaks has come up on this show in the past. 1:08:55.640 --> 1:08:58.360 Is hardly aware that Fred has now decided that the 1:08:58.400 --> 1:09:02.040 breaks on Patriots Unfiltered are so long that he has 1:09:02.200 --> 1:09:05.280 met recording a whole second show to fill the time. 1:09:06.000 --> 1:09:07.479 I would love to hear hearty. 1:09:07.560 --> 1:09:10.280 So you know, I don't think Fred was overully interested 1:09:10.360 --> 1:09:13.320 in that. I think Fred was the last to know 1:09:14.080 --> 1:09:14.680 what are we doing? 1:09:15.600 --> 1:09:15.840 So what? 1:09:17.080 --> 1:09:18.519 I don't know what this is about. 1:09:18.760 --> 1:09:21.519 So on Thursday we debuted, Mike. You probably don't even 1:09:21.520 --> 1:09:23.040 know you were gone. 1:09:23.880 --> 1:09:26.519 We usually, as you like to make fun of us, 1:09:27.000 --> 1:09:29.200 Fred and I eat our lunch in the middle of 1:09:29.920 --> 1:09:32.679 Patriots Unfiltered during the week, which is we take about 1:09:32.680 --> 1:09:34.880 an eight minute break and Patriots. 1:09:36.080 --> 1:09:39.200 Well, how long is Patriots Unfiltered? Two hours? Two hours? 1:09:39.720 --> 1:09:42.880 So we take so it's an hour and fifty two minutes. 1:09:43.040 --> 1:09:46.240 And most people in America have a two hour work 1:09:46.320 --> 1:09:49.280 day and they take a lunch break in the middle 1:09:49.320 --> 1:09:50.240 of their work day. 1:09:50.640 --> 1:09:54.280 That is two hours long. So whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. 1:09:54.600 --> 1:09:56.240 That's a two hour show we do in the middle 1:09:56.280 --> 1:09:58.280 of an eight hour work day. How about if you 1:09:58.400 --> 1:10:01.120 take your lunch on either side to that two hour show. 1:10:01.360 --> 1:10:03.960 Well, I'm not I'm not even watching at eleven thirty, 1:10:04.040 --> 1:10:06.120 and by the time two thirty rolls around, I'm not 1:10:06.160 --> 1:10:10.120 really all that interested. Well I can wait for dinner 1:10:10.160 --> 1:10:14.439 at that point, honestly, But anyway, you need to my 1:10:14.720 --> 1:10:19.120 uh So Fred decided. Fred decided that, well he didn't 1:10:19.160 --> 1:10:23.040 decide it. Other people decided that we needed to fill 1:10:23.120 --> 1:10:26.160 that break because we didn't want to run the commercials 1:10:26.280 --> 1:10:26.960 and repeat them. 1:10:27.120 --> 1:10:32.559 It's what we do. So Matisi hosted a little uh 1:10:33.240 --> 1:10:39.040 Matisse and Friends podcast with Dylan and Faith and they discussed. 1:10:38.800 --> 1:10:43.880 What was the topic, unpopular, unpopular, popular hot takes, and 1:10:44.000 --> 1:10:46.519 that was what filled the time. Just so you know, 1:10:46.640 --> 1:10:50.000 re racking the commercials was received better. Uh based on 1:10:50.120 --> 1:10:51.400 the Twitter following I did not like. 1:10:51.520 --> 1:10:53.880 I just want to say that everybody under thirty five 1:10:54.040 --> 1:10:56.920 actually enjoyed it and all you old people hated it. 1:10:57.080 --> 1:10:58.840 I didn't hear it, so don't tell me I didn't 1:10:58.920 --> 1:10:59.080 like it. 1:10:59.360 --> 1:11:02.120 People can play, oh, you offended me because we you 1:11:02.280 --> 1:11:04.519 talk crap about Facebook and I use Facebook. 1:11:06.240 --> 1:11:09.120 No one likes face face. Even people who do use 1:11:09.200 --> 1:11:10.160 Facebook don't like it. 1:11:10.680 --> 1:11:14.640 I am an old by your definition right there, and 1:11:15.320 --> 1:11:18.360 the idea of the show within the show, feeling that 1:11:19.080 --> 1:11:22.519 unbelievably long lunch break in the middle of a two 1:11:22.560 --> 1:11:25.000 hour show, and again, I get it. You must be 1:11:25.280 --> 1:11:27.080 famished after doing well. 1:11:27.120 --> 1:11:29.840 You know why I didn't have it right? What's that? 1:11:30.000 --> 1:11:31.960 You know why I didn't hear it on Thursday as 1:11:32.000 --> 1:11:34.479 you're eating because I was eating. You're too busy eating? Yes, 1:11:34.960 --> 1:11:36.840 I was both of them down Buffalo tender. What are they? 1:11:38.040 --> 1:11:39.000 That's unbelievable. 1:11:39.000 --> 1:11:42.200 It was just the first time to the why why 1:11:42.280 --> 1:11:45.519 do you get? Was this your idea? You get You're 1:11:45.520 --> 1:11:47.920 getting a little defensive over there. It actually was not 1:11:48.040 --> 1:11:50.880 my idea. But I enjoyed it. I don't have anything 1:11:51.000 --> 1:11:53.240 any anything critical to say about it. They don't like 1:11:53.320 --> 1:11:57.080 Star Wars upstairs, Oh, I don't like Star Wars. I'm 1:11:57.080 --> 1:11:59.880 not a big Star Wars guy. And even though I'm an. 1:11:59.800 --> 1:12:04.200 Old listen to Thursday's Patriots Unfiltered, just to listen to 1:12:04.360 --> 1:12:05.080 that show. 1:12:05.200 --> 1:12:07.439 And skip the first thing. I appreciate that hardy and 1:12:07.520 --> 1:12:10.080 the second some feedback on it is gonna start giving 1:12:10.080 --> 1:12:11.400 away Patriots Unfiltered shirts. 1:12:11.439 --> 1:12:12.320 Another reason to listen. 1:12:12.479 --> 1:12:14.240 Oh my god, that's gonna be fantastic. 1:12:14.439 --> 1:12:16.840 You know another reason Thursday You're gonna make him you know, 1:12:17.160 --> 1:12:18.960 actually issued them so they can get him. 1:12:20.840 --> 1:12:23.240 All around. Oh yeah, I heard that story. 1:12:26.120 --> 1:12:28.680 The the other reason to listen to Thursday show. It's 1:12:28.720 --> 1:12:30.720 gonna be I don't know if Fred's gonna be there, 1:12:31.280 --> 1:12:31.799 but I'm. 1:12:31.640 --> 1:12:34.519 Coming in hot off of a of a nighttime flight. 1:12:34.680 --> 1:12:36.800 Oh yeah, Fred's probably gonna have to leave, so it 1:12:36.920 --> 1:12:41.400 might be punchy Deuce hosting. And you know, usually I 1:12:41.479 --> 1:12:43.680 dropped some F bones on that. I'll try not to. Oh, 1:12:43.720 --> 1:12:45.479 you just drop F bonds all the time. But you 1:12:45.520 --> 1:12:47.559 don't even mean it. That's the that's the funny part 1:12:47.600 --> 1:12:50.720 about it. It's you know what I mean. Yeah, that's 1:12:50.720 --> 1:12:53.040 when people when people ask a question that I either 1:12:53.400 --> 1:12:55.280 haven't thought really of an answer, or I don't know 1:12:55.439 --> 1:12:57.000 or I don't really care to, I just I give 1:12:57.040 --> 1:13:02.559 the F bomb sigh, Like you know, like Fudge, Yeah, 1:13:02.640 --> 1:13:04.000 and I don't even realize him doing it. I didn't 1:13:04.000 --> 1:13:06.040 realize that. And he thinks when you say it directly 1:13:06.120 --> 1:13:08.479 into the mic, they might not hear it, right, right, 1:13:09.000 --> 1:13:13.720 But if but we would call we would call that 1:13:13.840 --> 1:13:15.320 a fleeting expletive. 1:13:15.600 --> 1:13:17.800 Right, it's you know, you're not saying You're not saying 1:13:17.840 --> 1:13:21.040 it gratuitously, you're not celebrating. 1:13:20.520 --> 1:13:22.599 That, like when I screamed I can't wait till week 1:13:22.800 --> 1:13:26.519 f N sixteen once that would that was. 1:13:26.520 --> 1:13:28.720 A crit You must have been ballistic on that one. Well, 1:13:28.760 --> 1:13:30.160 who do you think was on the show? Andy? 1:13:30.400 --> 1:13:33.280 Nope, No, who could get Who's the only person that 1:13:33.320 --> 1:13:35.479 could get me in that state? I don't want to 1:13:35.520 --> 1:13:36.479 say Brian Morey. 1:13:36.640 --> 1:13:38.680 Oh all right, those are the two. Those are the 1:13:38.720 --> 1:13:40.960 two drive Paul over the edge. 1:13:41.360 --> 1:13:44.719 All right, let's let's do this. Let's hear from Bill Belichick. 1:13:44.880 --> 1:13:49.280 Very short obviously, you know, when you consider what was 1:13:49.360 --> 1:13:51.200 going on at the end of the game. The game 1:13:51.400 --> 1:13:54.799 ended with ten twenty nine left due to the injury 1:13:54.880 --> 1:13:58.360 sustained by Isaiah Bolden. The team has released a statement. 1:13:58.400 --> 1:14:01.120 I don't know if Bill references that he but Bill 1:14:01.240 --> 1:14:05.360 is brought to you by our partner Microsoft Surface, the 1:14:05.439 --> 1:14:09.479 official sideline technology provider and laptop of the NFL and 1:14:09.640 --> 1:14:12.960 the New England Patriots that provides players and coaches with 1:14:13.040 --> 1:14:15.559 the tools to succeed both on and off the field. 1:14:15.680 --> 1:14:17.400 Check out the powerful Surface Pro. 1:14:17.520 --> 1:14:20.960 Nine, combining the power of a laptop with the flexibility 1:14:21.040 --> 1:14:23.240 of a tablet at surface dot com. 1:14:23.600 --> 1:14:24.559 Here's the head coach. 1:14:25.280 --> 1:14:28.639 All right, well, I don't think the last situation kind 1:14:28.640 --> 1:14:31.439 of you know, in the bigger picture of overrode the game. 1:14:31.560 --> 1:14:36.480 So I'll sign a prayer for Isaiah. 1:14:37.600 --> 1:14:40.519 And you know, well we just released a statement with that, right, 1:14:40.600 --> 1:14:44.040 so that's you know, only information that's updated information that 1:14:44.120 --> 1:14:48.040 we have. I appreciate the way of the league handle that. 1:14:48.080 --> 1:14:50.080 I think that was the right thing to do. And 1:14:52.400 --> 1:14:57.160 you know, also Santa prayer for some of our players 1:14:57.200 --> 1:15:01.040 with their close friends and relatives in Hawaii that are 1:15:01.120 --> 1:15:01.600 going through some. 1:15:01.640 --> 1:15:02.280 Stuff out there. 1:15:02.400 --> 1:15:07.000 So you know, that's really the bigger picture of it here, 1:15:08.320 --> 1:15:10.760 you know, kind of regroup and uh, you know, we'll 1:15:10.800 --> 1:15:13.800 talk about the game later, but that's it's kind of 1:15:13.840 --> 1:15:18.240 where things are for right now. So you know, competitive game, 1:15:18.320 --> 1:15:20.560 competitive week, good week against Green Bay, just you know, 1:15:22.080 --> 1:15:25.960 unfortunate what happened there at the end, hopefully say it'll 1:15:25.960 --> 1:15:31.280 be all right, and I'm sorry, that's really about all 1:15:31.320 --> 1:15:31.599 I got. 1:15:33.200 --> 1:15:35.080 Scary moment was that on the field? And what what 1:15:35.240 --> 1:15:37.280 led to the decision to just suspend the game? 1:15:38.479 --> 1:15:39.280 Yeah, that's the lad. 1:15:39.320 --> 1:15:42.800 Said, what were your conversations like a coach? 1:15:45.280 --> 1:15:46.320 Yeah, it doesn't matter. 1:15:50.479 --> 1:15:51.000 Something like this. 1:15:51.160 --> 1:15:53.720 Coach puts everything in perspective, doesn't it does. 1:15:55.520 --> 1:15:59.120 Yeah, we're all very fortunate, all very fortunate. 1:15:59.640 --> 1:16:04.200 Fortunate in your long career, obviously never experienced anything. 1:16:03.920 --> 1:16:09.040 Quite like this. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 1:16:11.120 --> 1:16:12.800 Bill, how good of a kid? Is bold and twenty 1:16:12.840 --> 1:16:15.400 three years old? How did Jackson state? Florida state? Obviously 1:16:15.479 --> 1:16:16.479 his family very concerned? 1:16:16.560 --> 1:16:28.519 Is luckers crossed him? Okay, all right, great, thank you, thanks. 1:16:28.600 --> 1:16:28.840 Thank you. 1:16:29.880 --> 1:16:33.240 All right, So there's a head coach obviously, Uh and 1:16:33.400 --> 1:16:35.479 he said, you know, just about the game. 1:16:35.640 --> 1:16:36.599 We'll get to that later. 1:16:37.120 --> 1:16:38.840 And uh, you know, he said, it was you know, 1:16:38.960 --> 1:16:42.439 good week with the with the joints, but uh, you know, 1:16:42.520 --> 1:16:45.360 and also you know, mentioned something that had been brought 1:16:45.439 --> 1:16:47.400 up a couple of times earlier this week. You know, 1:16:47.520 --> 1:16:50.600 players with their connections to uh what's going on in 1:16:50.720 --> 1:16:54.479 Maui and in Lahina, so he brought that up too, 1:16:54.680 --> 1:16:59.040 but he referenced the statement again from the team, which 1:16:59.120 --> 1:17:00.920 came out just a few more moments before he went 1:17:00.960 --> 1:17:04.160 to the podium, which said that Isaiah Bolden did have 1:17:04.360 --> 1:17:08.120 feeling in his extremities, and but he was being taken 1:17:08.200 --> 1:17:11.840 to a local hospital for more testing and for some 1:17:11.960 --> 1:17:15.519 more evaluations. So we'll take that as good news right now, 1:17:15.600 --> 1:17:19.800 but not a lot from the coach there. 1:17:20.200 --> 1:17:23.600 I don't know what else you know, you would have 1:17:23.680 --> 1:17:28.600 asked or you know, done to that circumstance. I guess maybe. 1:17:31.040 --> 1:17:33.240 Coach Belichack at that point was not going to talk 1:17:33.280 --> 1:17:34.320 any more about the injury. 1:17:34.360 --> 1:17:38.080 I don't think no, And I was, you know, obviously 1:17:38.080 --> 1:17:39.400 it was predictably. 1:17:40.720 --> 1:17:45.639 Somber right in brief, but I think he basically told 1:17:45.720 --> 1:17:50.760 you that, you know, the statement, that's all we really know. Yeah, So, 1:17:50.960 --> 1:17:54.400 I I mean, I think I would have felt comfortable 1:17:54.400 --> 1:17:57.560 if I were there to ask d listen. Obviously, you 1:17:57.680 --> 1:18:01.519 know Bolden's you know, held this first and foremost, but 1:18:01.720 --> 1:18:04.000 can you give your impressions of the game, you know, 1:18:04.120 --> 1:18:08.400 what of Mac Jones or whatever, like some superficial kind 1:18:08.439 --> 1:18:11.320 of team performance question. And then if he didn't want 1:18:11.360 --> 1:18:13.639 to ask answer it. And if he answered with something 1:18:13.720 --> 1:18:15.800 like I don't think this is the appropriate time. We'll 1:18:15.800 --> 1:18:18.320 get to that tomorrow because he does have a conference 1:18:18.400 --> 1:18:21.720 call slated for tomorrow, then you stop like to ask 1:18:21.840 --> 1:18:26.160 any questions about Bolden to me, doesn't make any sense. 1:18:26.160 --> 1:18:31.720 Right, And also again you're trying to you know, be 1:18:32.080 --> 1:18:35.240 mindful of the situation. And you know, the question was 1:18:35.280 --> 1:18:37.519 asked whether or not he had anything like this in 1:18:37.600 --> 1:18:40.679 his career. Bill talked about that kind of extensively last 1:18:40.760 --> 1:18:43.280 year after Demorrow Hamlin and he talked about some of 1:18:43.360 --> 1:18:46.439 the situations I think that he had encountered over the years. 1:18:46.640 --> 1:18:48.559 There was one on the field, I mean a very 1:18:48.680 --> 1:18:51.720 scary incident in the game against the Lions, which was 1:18:52.360 --> 1:18:53.400 I mean really tenuous. 1:18:53.439 --> 1:18:55.519 Now that was weird. I remember that one that Dennis 1:18:55.560 --> 1:18:59.240 Bird no no against us here. I remember the guy 1:18:59.400 --> 1:18:59.960 just collapsed. 1:19:00.520 --> 1:19:05.640 Yes, it was I mean, I myself. You know, we 1:19:05.960 --> 1:19:10.680 talk about wow, this is unprecedented, Like it's not unprecedented. 1:19:10.840 --> 1:19:14.000 It's something that happens, and no one is saying that 1:19:14.080 --> 1:19:16.800 they shouldn't have stopped the game with Deamar Hamlin or 1:19:16.840 --> 1:19:19.320 they shouldn't have stopped the game tonight but to act 1:19:19.439 --> 1:19:24.040 like it's the first time it's ever happened. No, you know, unfortunately, 1:19:24.200 --> 1:19:27.320 this is something that has happened. As a matter of 1:19:27.439 --> 1:19:30.200 fact before Damar Hamlin last year, it happened to here 1:19:30.360 --> 1:19:33.000 in Foxborough and the thing that I had never seen, 1:19:34.360 --> 1:19:36.679 And maybe this is more commonplace and we just don't 1:19:36.720 --> 1:19:40.400 see it because it's not televised. Somebody from the staff 1:19:40.720 --> 1:19:44.160 going over to the stands and getting a member of 1:19:44.880 --> 1:19:47.760 the of the player's family from the Lions, bringing them 1:19:47.840 --> 1:19:50.120 down out of the field, having them walk off the 1:19:50.160 --> 1:19:52.600 field with the ambulance and get into the ambulance and 1:19:52.720 --> 1:19:53.919 go with them to the hospital. 1:19:53.960 --> 1:19:59.560 I mean, to me, that is that's jaw dropping, and 1:19:59.720 --> 1:20:02.960 that's something that apparently does happen from time to time. 1:20:03.120 --> 1:20:07.680 So, yeah, if you're gonna ask Bill belichikovs you ever 1:20:07.760 --> 1:20:10.720 say anything like this in your career? To me, that is, 1:20:11.240 --> 1:20:13.360 Bill is well within his right to almost be a 1:20:13.400 --> 1:20:16.320 little a little annoyed at that, like, yeah, I have 1:20:17.360 --> 1:20:21.439 you have unless unless this is your first you know, 1:20:22.080 --> 1:20:25.800 season covering the NFL. Yes, unfortunately, this is something we've 1:20:25.840 --> 1:20:26.320 all seen. 1:20:26.520 --> 1:20:28.800 How much do you think the NFL's decision to end 1:20:28.840 --> 1:20:31.240 the game was kind of related to what happened to 1:20:31.280 --> 1:20:33.880 DeMar Hamlin, Like you know, like that fresh on the mind, 1:20:34.160 --> 1:20:36.400 Like I don't I don't ever remember a game being 1:20:36.400 --> 1:20:37.800 suspended after an injury like this. 1:20:37.920 --> 1:20:40.040 I just wonder if that was you know, like the 1:20:40.120 --> 1:20:42.280 president was set now it was easier to do that. Well, 1:20:42.360 --> 1:20:45.160 not not even necessarily the precedent of just I guess 1:20:45.280 --> 1:20:47.600 my thought was that it's just so fresh on everybody's 1:20:47.680 --> 1:20:50.280 mind that this is kind of you know, retriggering all 1:20:50.320 --> 1:20:52.400 those memories, and it's like we're in a preseason game 1:20:52.479 --> 1:20:55.000 right now, you know, And I just wonder if that 1:20:55.160 --> 1:20:58.000 if that came into account. Of course, it's a preseason game, 1:20:58.080 --> 1:20:58.880 and nobody cares, I. 1:20:58.920 --> 1:21:02.120 Think, and I have seen pre season games halted, but 1:21:02.280 --> 1:21:05.479 not for jury like lightning. Yeah, like you know, whether 1:21:05.680 --> 1:21:06.520 whether related. 1:21:06.600 --> 1:21:11.439 No, But I think, look, we're talking about it only 1:21:11.720 --> 1:21:15.000 in that we all agree that that was the right 1:21:15.080 --> 1:21:18.320 thing to do tonight. Anybody disagrees with that, not at all. 1:21:18.600 --> 1:21:22.040 If this were a regular season game, what would they 1:21:22.080 --> 1:21:22.439 have done. 1:21:23.760 --> 1:21:24.880 I think they would have kept playing. 1:21:25.000 --> 1:21:27.799 I think that I think they probably would have taken 1:21:28.160 --> 1:21:30.600 as much time as they needed to to get a 1:21:30.800 --> 1:21:34.400 you know, a real update on his status and find 1:21:34.439 --> 1:21:36.839 out what was going on, and I think they probably 1:21:36.920 --> 1:21:38.479 would have continued playing the game. 1:21:39.479 --> 1:21:42.439 That's I mean, if you remember the hand one situation 1:21:45.120 --> 1:21:49.800 was like over a half hour on the field and 1:21:49.880 --> 1:21:52.000 everyone it was like an hour like not to say 1:21:52.000 --> 1:21:55.200 that this was this is I don't harm. 1:21:57.520 --> 1:22:02.040 Hopefully this ends you know, obvious sleep without saying, you know, 1:22:03.040 --> 1:22:06.760 with a good story, a happy ending. But the ham 1:22:06.880 --> 1:22:09.760 One thing to me was far different in terms of 1:22:10.120 --> 1:22:13.519 the uncertainty as to what exactly was going on. 1:22:14.160 --> 1:22:16.800 Yeah, yeah, I mean I would say just the look 1:22:16.840 --> 1:22:18.760 on the players faces that you know, that to me 1:22:18.920 --> 1:22:20.840 did was a little bit reminiscent of that. And I 1:22:20.920 --> 1:22:22.920 think that's, you know, kind of where I went of 1:22:23.040 --> 1:22:25.360 how how do they play a game when the memories 1:22:25.400 --> 1:22:26.759 of that is still so fresh. 1:22:28.120 --> 1:22:34.040 Last year it was October ninth. The Lions player was 1:22:34.080 --> 1:22:37.840 Savion Smith and he was on the ground. 1:22:38.320 --> 1:22:41.720 Yeah. I remember you're talking about what the family is. 1:22:42.040 --> 1:22:45.240 I remember the family coming out of the field, ambulance 1:22:45.320 --> 1:22:48.280 out on the field, not carted off on any kind 1:22:48.320 --> 1:22:51.120 of a you know, team equipment. I mean, that was 1:22:52.240 --> 1:22:55.280 that was as serious as something that I've witnessed in person. 1:22:55.560 --> 1:22:59.000 And they continued that game, So I think, yeah, I 1:22:59.080 --> 1:23:02.240 think a regular season game they probably would have continued tonight. 1:23:02.439 --> 1:23:04.200 I think a couple of things coming to play. One 1:23:04.240 --> 1:23:08.880 of them absolutely tomorrow, Hamlin still very fresh. Number two, 1:23:09.520 --> 1:23:13.240 it's a preseason game, so we don't have to finish 1:23:13.360 --> 1:23:17.840 this thing. And number three, I think it probably starts 1:23:17.880 --> 1:23:21.400 to factor in. Do we didn't want anyone else to 1:23:21.439 --> 1:23:24.960 get hurt, even if it's a groin, even if it's 1:23:25.000 --> 1:23:25.760 a hamstring. 1:23:26.000 --> 1:23:29.200 We're playing preseason here. Can we just stop this now? Yeah? 1:23:29.280 --> 1:23:31.800 You know you just had two I mean two hour 1:23:31.880 --> 1:23:33.599 and well, how long was it? Two hours? Two hours 1:23:33.640 --> 1:23:35.439 and twenty seven twenty seven minutes? And that was a 1:23:35.520 --> 1:23:38.120 long game? Tight, you know, I mean you've had so 1:23:38.240 --> 1:23:40.400 much work. It's like, you know, what more do you need? 1:23:40.479 --> 1:23:42.680 But of course the regular season game, the Packers like, hey, 1:23:42.720 --> 1:23:44.560 we're driving here to tie the game, you know, like 1:23:44.640 --> 1:23:45.519 we can't end it right now. 1:23:45.760 --> 1:23:45.920 Yeah. 1:23:47.080 --> 1:23:50.839 We also have Mac Jones and his postgame press conference, 1:23:51.960 --> 1:23:55.960 and as I understand, had some very interesting things to 1:23:56.040 --> 1:23:59.439 say about Matthew Slater, who played a part in that. 1:23:59.560 --> 1:24:02.640 We saw, you know, the conference taking place on the 1:24:02.760 --> 1:24:06.799 sideline while Bolden was being attended to with Bill Belichick 1:24:06.840 --> 1:24:09.280 and one of the officials, and so Mac has asked 1:24:09.280 --> 1:24:10.280 about that and other things. 1:24:10.320 --> 1:24:11.879 So let's listen to the quarterback. 1:24:12.360 --> 1:24:13.160 How's a team doing? 1:24:13.520 --> 1:24:14.160 How are you doing? 1:24:14.400 --> 1:24:16.880 Yeah, we're doing all right. I think that was definitely 1:24:16.960 --> 1:24:20.120 tough to see, you know, Zay go down like that, 1:24:20.400 --> 1:24:24.240 and just hard to kind of like realize the whole situation, 1:24:24.400 --> 1:24:27.000 you know, and we're all together, and think Slater did 1:24:27.000 --> 1:24:29.639 a great job explaining it to the team, just how 1:24:29.920 --> 1:24:33.599 you know, you can't take anything for granted. Just want 1:24:33.640 --> 1:24:35.320 to be there for one another, want to be there 1:24:35.400 --> 1:24:38.719 for him, his family. I've known him since high school. 1:24:39.600 --> 1:24:42.160 We played seven on seven football together, so definitely one 1:24:42.160 --> 1:24:44.599 of my brothers. But sounds like he's doing a lot better, 1:24:46.040 --> 1:24:48.120 you know, from what they're telling us. So that's awesome. 1:24:48.400 --> 1:24:49.960 Can you tell people what type of player and what 1:24:50.000 --> 1:24:51.080 type of person isaiahs? 1:24:51.680 --> 1:24:54.439 Yeah? I think, like I said, I'm very fortunate to 1:24:54.600 --> 1:24:57.640 play with them in seven on seven football when I 1:24:57.760 --> 1:24:59.760 was you know, a high schooler, just a young guy, 1:25:00.680 --> 1:25:04.479 and he's just a physical, tough football player. And just 1:25:04.560 --> 1:25:06.960 hope that he's okay. I know he's gonna do whatever 1:25:07.000 --> 1:25:09.800 he can to be back and he's d He's done 1:25:09.800 --> 1:25:12.000 a great job, you know, coming in this year and 1:25:12.120 --> 1:25:15.640 just trying to play you know, really tough defense, and 1:25:15.720 --> 1:25:18.320 he he's done a great job. And yeah, just tough. 1:25:18.880 --> 1:25:20.880 Knowing that I've known him for so long and knowing 1:25:20.960 --> 1:25:22.799 that he's just this ultimate competitor. 1:25:23.680 --> 1:25:25.559 Does it seem as if the league, you know, kind 1:25:25.560 --> 1:25:28.920 of shows that it's developing a heightened awareness to know 1:25:29.000 --> 1:25:30.400 the emotions that you guys in. 1:25:30.479 --> 1:25:34.240 These games, And then yeah, yeah, I think I think 1:25:34.240 --> 1:25:37.000 it's probably the right move to do that. And just 1:25:37.560 --> 1:25:40.760 everything revolves around him, him and how his family's doing 1:25:40.840 --> 1:25:43.200 and and all that stuff. So definitely feel like we 1:25:43.240 --> 1:25:46.000 weren't in a good headspace. Nobody was on either side 1:25:46.000 --> 1:25:49.320 of the ball, so you know, obviously that's above all 1:25:49.320 --> 1:25:51.759 of our pay grade. But we did decide, and Slater 1:25:51.880 --> 1:25:54.360 and coach and everybody just and the other team just 1:25:54.439 --> 1:25:56.760 thought it was probably better just to you know, hang 1:25:56.840 --> 1:25:58.640 it up for the night and and just try and 1:25:59.000 --> 1:26:01.840 you know, come together really as a team and and 1:26:02.240 --> 1:26:04.720 and really just think about him and his family. This 1:26:04.840 --> 1:26:07.080 tream he has to go to Nashville. What do you 1:26:07.120 --> 1:26:08.320 saying you have to go to Nashville? 1:26:08.520 --> 1:26:10.240 Yeah, how do you as a quarterback. 1:26:10.720 --> 1:26:11.559 Keep everybody up. 1:26:12.080 --> 1:26:15.040 Yeah, I think hopefully it'll just continue to be positive 1:26:15.640 --> 1:26:19.479 with the updates that we get and honestly just continue 1:26:19.520 --> 1:26:21.360 to come together as a team. I think we've done 1:26:21.400 --> 1:26:25.040 that this week during the practices and I feel like 1:26:25.080 --> 1:26:27.320 there was a little little bit of camaraderie and things 1:26:27.400 --> 1:26:29.760 like that, and I think that we just need to 1:26:29.800 --> 1:26:32.639 try to carry that over and let these tough times 1:26:32.720 --> 1:26:37.000 just keep building us up and obviously hope that Zay's 1:26:37.040 --> 1:26:39.800 okay and we get positive updates and just trying to 1:26:40.000 --> 1:26:42.760 keep plug along as best we can, but definitely tough. 1:26:44.280 --> 1:26:47.080 After all of it happened, both team and decisions made. 1:26:47.200 --> 1:26:48.800 Everyone kind of came together at the end. 1:26:49.439 --> 1:26:51.040 Both teams can usually what that was like. 1:26:51.800 --> 1:26:55.519 Yeah, I think it's important just as people, right, uh, 1:26:55.600 --> 1:26:58.400 beyond the game of football, just understand that we all 1:26:58.479 --> 1:27:00.920 love each other and uh, we're out here doing something 1:27:00.960 --> 1:27:03.200 that lots of people would love to do, you know, 1:27:04.080 --> 1:27:06.640 and to see somebody, you know, especially your teammate and 1:27:06.720 --> 1:27:09.320 friend on the ground and I'm just not doing well. 1:27:09.400 --> 1:27:12.120 It's it's hard, right, but I think I think everybody 1:27:12.200 --> 1:27:14.960 on that field realize that this game is is very 1:27:15.000 --> 1:27:17.759 big but there's other things that are also very important, 1:27:18.240 --> 1:27:21.320 and that's the game of life. And I think both teams, 1:27:21.760 --> 1:27:23.640 you know, realize that, and I don't think either of 1:27:23.720 --> 1:27:25.160 us are gonna take anything for granted. 1:27:25.640 --> 1:27:28.040 That usually said that he's never been more proud of 1:27:28.120 --> 1:27:30.080 his coach ship ever decided that to save that. 1:27:30.400 --> 1:27:31.439 Yeah, chop on that too. 1:27:31.680 --> 1:27:31.880 Yeah. 1:27:31.880 --> 1:27:35.800 I think coach Belichick just really did a good job 1:27:35.880 --> 1:27:38.200 there talking with Slater and the leadership of our team 1:27:38.320 --> 1:27:42.360 and obviously handled the situation. And him and Slater did 1:27:42.400 --> 1:27:44.200 a great job in the locker room just talking to 1:27:44.360 --> 1:27:46.760 the team, and like he always does, he's a great 1:27:47.520 --> 1:27:49.479 He tries to bring us together, you know, and it's 1:27:49.479 --> 1:27:53.240 all real emotion, and we really appreciate him and and 1:27:53.360 --> 1:27:55.600 Slater and all those those leaders on our team that 1:27:55.720 --> 1:27:58.120 can just kind of bring us together during a tough time. 1:27:58.200 --> 1:27:59.320 So I thought that was smart. 1:28:00.000 --> 1:28:01.519 How does it affect you and how scary is that 1:28:01.560 --> 1:28:03.439 when you see the stretcher come out. 1:28:04.200 --> 1:28:07.280 Yeah, I think it's tough, right, It's It's not something 1:28:07.320 --> 1:28:10.240 you wanna see every day, But all you can do 1:28:10.439 --> 1:28:12.840 is just pray and hope that you know whoever's hurt 1:28:12.880 --> 1:28:16.040 and the situations they that everything's okay, and you think 1:28:16.080 --> 1:28:18.880 about For me, I think about my family, right, some 1:28:19.000 --> 1:28:22.519 guys think about their kids or or whatnot, and that's 1:28:22.560 --> 1:28:25.800 a tough thing. So definitely just try to pray and 1:28:26.120 --> 1:28:29.240 and realize that, you know, freak accidents happen. But it's 1:28:29.320 --> 1:28:32.160 tough to sit there and just act like everything's okay too, 1:28:32.240 --> 1:28:35.400 you know. So I'm definitely we're gonna continue to pray. 1:28:35.479 --> 1:28:37.840 And that's what we did on the field with Slater too. 1:28:37.880 --> 1:28:40.000 I thought that was was great to do that and 1:28:40.840 --> 1:28:42.639 come together and just pray. 1:28:44.960 --> 1:28:49.320 Comfortable fielding specially A football question for you. 1:28:49.600 --> 1:28:51.760 That I'll probably pass in the football, Yeah, I think 1:28:51.760 --> 1:28:55.280 it's probably, but yeah, we we definitely, uh just wanna 1:28:55.280 --> 1:28:57.679 pray for him and his family. And I do appreciate 1:28:57.680 --> 1:29:00.920 you asking, but we'll we'll save it for next Thanks 1:29:01.000 --> 1:29:01.880 appreciate it, okay. 1:29:04.080 --> 1:29:08.679 And and I mean the Patriots are in no mood 1:29:08.760 --> 1:29:13.000 to talk about the game. They probably they probably at 1:29:13.120 --> 1:29:15.680 some level, not that they you don't have anything to 1:29:15.760 --> 1:29:18.760 be ashamed of or embarrassed, but it is also this 1:29:18.960 --> 1:29:21.920 work in progress when you're in preseason and I know 1:29:22.160 --> 1:29:24.680 that the reporters they are doing their jobs, and well, 1:29:24.720 --> 1:29:27.640 you know, wanted to ask questions about you know, execution 1:29:27.840 --> 1:29:31.559 and plays. You know, I have to constantly remind myself 1:29:31.600 --> 1:29:35.080 that these guys are treating these games as some version 1:29:35.160 --> 1:29:38.240 of a very high level practice and and to sit 1:29:38.280 --> 1:29:41.000 there and have to answer questions about what is essentially, 1:29:41.520 --> 1:29:44.040 you know, an exhibition of sorts. I know we're not 1:29:44.080 --> 1:29:46.240 supposed to use that word. I know that you know, 1:29:46.320 --> 1:29:48.880 there's well, the NFL doesn't like you to use it, 1:29:49.439 --> 1:29:51.120 you know, the team doesn't like you to use it. 1:29:51.479 --> 1:29:54.640 But it's it's probably my numbing for them to have 1:29:54.800 --> 1:29:57.240 to answer questions like, you know, what were you thinking 1:29:57.320 --> 1:29:59.320 on that play? And it's like, I was thinking about 1:29:59.320 --> 1:30:01.320 a bunch of stuff that we're working on right now. 1:30:01.439 --> 1:30:04.280 I wasn't thinking about executing so that we could get 1:30:04.360 --> 1:30:08.080 the w It's just it's a whole different mindset for 1:30:08.160 --> 1:30:10.240 these guys in these games, and we do we look 1:30:10.280 --> 1:30:12.439 at them as games. We're like, the game's on tonight, 1:30:12.520 --> 1:30:15.800 it's not really a game. So for Belichick or mac 1:30:15.880 --> 1:30:18.280 Jones or anyone else to not have to answer questions 1:30:18.320 --> 1:30:21.719 about the game, it's probably a relief to them because 1:30:22.360 --> 1:30:23.760 they know it's not really a game. 1:30:24.000 --> 1:30:25.360 You're you're probably right. 1:30:25.560 --> 1:30:27.720 I had made the comment that I just feel like 1:30:28.720 --> 1:30:31.720 asking eight or nine questions about Isaiah Bolden to me 1:30:31.880 --> 1:30:35.080 is counterproductive. I would, I would, I would let these guys, 1:30:35.760 --> 1:30:38.040 Let them get with their team, Let them get you 1:30:38.120 --> 1:30:40.640 know that. Yeah, you know you come out, what do 1:30:40.680 --> 1:30:43.559 you what do you need their comments for? Like there's 1:30:43.640 --> 1:30:45.080 more important things to worry about. 1:30:45.840 --> 1:30:49.759 Yes, well, let us use that as a as a basis, 1:30:49.960 --> 1:30:52.960 as a baseline. Number one, the only thing to take 1:30:53.000 --> 1:30:56.320 away from this game is hopefully for you know, more 1:30:56.400 --> 1:30:59.080 good news on Isaiah Bolden, just in addition to the 1:30:59.680 --> 1:31:02.760 these you know, his feeling is an extremities and they're 1:31:02.800 --> 1:31:06.880 taking him a hospital as what what feels like testing 1:31:07.200 --> 1:31:10.280 or maybe at best just precaution. So that is our 1:31:10.400 --> 1:31:14.240 baseline other takeaways from the game as we wrap things 1:31:14.320 --> 1:31:16.479 up here on the post game show, you. 1:31:16.520 --> 1:31:17.880 Know, I think just some of the issues that have 1:31:17.960 --> 1:31:20.799 been consistent in the summer offensive line, you know, continue 1:31:20.840 --> 1:31:23.560 to pop up. But you know, I think still some 1:31:23.760 --> 1:31:26.640 rays of optimism for the offense overall, and you know, 1:31:26.800 --> 1:31:29.360 some some you know issues up front with the defense. 1:31:29.479 --> 1:31:31.120 But you know, they're veteran groups, so I got to 1:31:31.160 --> 1:31:34.519 think that they'll that they'll pull that stuff together, you know. 1:31:34.680 --> 1:31:36.920 So overall, I think that there were some strides, certainly 1:31:37.000 --> 1:31:40.320 some positions to look at, but you know, overall, I 1:31:40.680 --> 1:31:43.000 think it'll be good to get another week in Tennessee, 1:31:43.080 --> 1:31:45.800 face another physical football team, and I think they need it. 1:31:46.760 --> 1:31:49.160 Paul, Yeah, I would echo a lot of what Mike said. 1:31:49.200 --> 1:31:53.400 I thought there were some some flashes of optimism tonight. Offensively, 1:31:53.680 --> 1:31:58.080 probably not enough, but you know, I think that there 1:31:58.120 --> 1:32:02.280 were some things that you know, Kendrick Bourne, Tomorrio, Douglas 1:32:02.840 --> 1:32:07.000 mac Jones, you could see why they had some success 1:32:07.080 --> 1:32:09.080 on Thursday with some of the things that they did tonight. 1:32:09.520 --> 1:32:11.640 Now let's you know, can you build off of that? 1:32:11.840 --> 1:32:14.200 Can you stack it together and have a good week 1:32:14.280 --> 1:32:16.200 in Tennessee. And I'd like to see that, maybe have 1:32:16.600 --> 1:32:20.400 two good practices with Tennessee as opposed to one, you know, 1:32:21.200 --> 1:32:23.760 you know, one really good day. So that's what I'm 1:32:23.800 --> 1:32:25.800 looking for in Nashville next week. 1:32:25.840 --> 1:32:27.400 I'd just say one more thing, Hardy is you know, 1:32:27.640 --> 1:32:29.880 as Paul mentioned, Bill's gonna speak tomorrow, I think at 1:32:29.920 --> 1:32:31.720 like two or three o'clock in the afternoon. So I mean, 1:32:31.920 --> 1:32:34.280 you know, just my hope is that by that point, 1:32:34.400 --> 1:32:37.360 We've got some good news on Bolden's status, and Bill's 1:32:37.400 --> 1:32:40.160 able to then maybe comment on the football game tonight 1:32:40.240 --> 1:32:42.000 and we can get back to football. 1:32:41.680 --> 1:32:42.559 Hopefully maybe tomorrow. 1:32:42.600 --> 1:32:44.720 So just reading between the lines, it says, I think 1:32:44.760 --> 1:32:47.360 it's two o'clock Central, so it'll be three o'clock our time, 1:32:47.840 --> 1:32:51.200 which to me would indicate that the plan was already 1:32:51.280 --> 1:32:54.160 to stay in Green Bay tonight, so they're gonna be 1:32:54.280 --> 1:32:56.479 flying out to Nashville in the morning. 1:32:57.160 --> 1:32:58.320 So that's my guess. 1:32:58.439 --> 1:33:01.880 Is that press conference, that conference call being that late 1:33:02.000 --> 1:33:04.720 would indicate once they get to Nashville, right, because that's 1:33:04.720 --> 1:33:05.479 still Central time. 1:33:05.600 --> 1:33:06.719 Yeah, yep, Christ. 1:33:08.520 --> 1:33:11.360 If that doesn't change, that's a good thing. Yes, you know, 1:33:11.400 --> 1:33:14.200 in terms of Isaiah Bolden, if you don't see any 1:33:14.320 --> 1:33:16.760 updates with that, then that means they're they're going to 1:33:16.800 --> 1:33:20.120 be leaving as normal, and I think that's a good sign. 1:33:20.160 --> 1:33:23.160 All right, So continued prayers and well wishes for Isaiah 1:33:23.200 --> 1:33:26.599 Bolden as we put a ball on this preseason game 1:33:26.720 --> 1:33:30.519 number two. The game was shortened and with ten twenty 1:33:30.640 --> 1:33:34.640 nine left in the game, the score was Packers seventeen, 1:33:35.320 --> 1:33:36.439 Patriots twenty one. 1:33:36.760 --> 1:33:39.640 That's for your point, that's right. At you poor to me, 1:33:39.800 --> 1:33:40.519 I do, I do. 1:33:40.760 --> 1:33:42.519 Thank you everybody for being a part of the pre 1:33:42.720 --> 1:33:44.960 and the postgame show. 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