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Speaker 3: After the Patriots and Packers game was called with ten
Speaker 3: minutes and change left in the fourth quarter, after Isaiah
Speaker 3: and suffered an on field injury. He was immobilized. He
Speaker 3: was taking off the field on a stretcher. He was
Speaker 3: carted off the field and both teams officials ever won
Speaker 3: Agreen and we were talking about it here in the
Speaker 3: studio as it was happening, and like one of they're
Speaker 3: just gonna call this game seemed like the right thing
Speaker 3: to do. They did it pretty quickly, and now just
Speaker 3: everybody's thinking for hoping for and praying for Isaiah Bolden
Speaker 3: as we can only hope, Mike that things are going
Speaker 3: to be okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just jarring.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think they did the right thing suspending
Speaker 4: the game. I mean that was kind of on all
Speaker 4: of our minds is as he was lying motionless on
Speaker 4: the field for a while. They kept coming back from commercials.
Speaker 4: So disappointing, you know, how it all went down.
Speaker 1: It's just sad. You know, I think we're all a
Speaker 1: bit jarred.
Speaker 4: You're sitting here trying to analyze football and come away
Speaker 4: with takeaways and right things, and now it's none of
Speaker 4: that really obviously matters. We just are, you know, hoping
Speaker 4: that Isaiah Bolden is is is going to be okay.
Speaker 4: So hopefully there'll be some kind of update soon that
Speaker 4: I know. On the broadcast they were saying that they
Speaker 4: they appeared to see some movement, so that's that's a
Speaker 4: good sign. But you know, with the demor Hamlin situation
Speaker 4: last year, the health and safety of the players is
Speaker 4: at the forefront of everybody's mind and it's it's it's
Speaker 4: kind of hard to really talk.
Speaker 1: About football or anything like that at the moment.
Speaker 4: So I don't know, maybe we'll ease our way into
Speaker 4: a little bit of that, but at the moment, and
Speaker 4: it's it's all about Isaiah Bolden.
Speaker 3: Yeah, rookie cornerback Isaiah Bolden. If you if you were
Speaker 3: not watching or listening to the game, and again, we're
Speaker 3: not gonna we're not going to show footage of it,
Speaker 3: and I don't think there's a lot to see any
Speaker 3: way on the play. It looks like he appeared to
Speaker 3: take a hit to the head from a from a
Speaker 3: teammate on what was a completed pass to a Packers receiver,
Speaker 3: And it's just one of those things where it looks
Speaker 3: like any other football play and you hope that you know,
Speaker 3: I I guess best case scenario would be that it
Speaker 3: was just something something that he sustained on that play
Speaker 3: and maybe was knocked unconscious for a time. He you know,
Speaker 3: he didn't appear to be moving when he was down
Speaker 3: on the field. But then as as you just said, Mike,
Speaker 3: and as as or I'm reading here on Twitter, you
Speaker 3: know you're talking.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get updates here too.
Speaker 3: Uh, it did appear that he was moving or there
Speaker 3: was you know, his feet were moving, or there was
Speaker 3: something going on. Obviously they're going to be super super
Speaker 3: careful with moving him in that situation. And I guess
Speaker 3: that would be the hope right now that it was
Speaker 3: you know, something that that you know, maybe he was
Speaker 3: unconscious for a moment after after the play or for
Speaker 3: a few moments after the play. But you know, any
Speaker 3: any talk about the game, which we'll get into eventually,
Speaker 3: just know that that's what we're thinking about. That's what
Speaker 3: I think everybody is thinking about, hoping for, praying for
Speaker 3: that he's gonna be okay. And you know, the rest
Speaker 3: of this is rather inconsequential. And I now we sit
Speaker 3: here and talk about it, like I wonder if they're
Speaker 3: gonna call it again.
Speaker 1: Of course they did. You know, it's it's just it's
Speaker 1: the right thing to do preseason game or not. That's it.
Speaker 3: You've got a player who's down and is you know,
Speaker 3: obviously in some in a very serious situation. All right,
Speaker 3: let's stop this, let's go.
Speaker 1: So that's what they did.
Speaker 5: I think that made that made all the sense in
Speaker 5: the world at that point. And yeah, I mean it's
Speaker 5: it's it's impossible to speculate. We all saw, you know,
Speaker 5: the pitchers. I think, you know, told everybody didn't really
Speaker 5: get a chance to see the play again just are live.
Speaker 1: I don't think we ever got to got to replay.
Speaker 5: But yeah, and it's you could see the the way
Speaker 5: the players reacted, you know, that's that's always to me
Speaker 5: my tip off. And immediately when he went down, players
Speaker 5: from both teams were frantically waving in medical personnel. So
Speaker 5: I think you guys said everything that needs to be said.
Speaker 5: All we can do is hope that that Isaiah Bolden's
Speaker 5: going to be okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did.
Speaker 4: I mean I did see a couple of replays just
Speaker 4: uh on Twitter. I mean it's just you know, kind
Speaker 4: of a crossing collision, and you know, yeah, it looked
Speaker 4: like I think it was Calvin.
Speaker 1: Munson, you know who was. I thought it might have
Speaker 1: been him based on his reaction.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and uh, you know, Bolden was It almost looked
Speaker 4: like he had turned a little bit and and it
Speaker 4: just looked like he got swiped, you know, on the
Speaker 4: side of that. I don't want to speculate too much,
Speaker 4: but it was a quick, quick, bang bang kind of situation.
Speaker 3: No, and I think we I think we learned, you know,
Speaker 3: the the following that and trying to you know, we
Speaker 3: everybody looked at the Damar Hammond Hamlin.
Speaker 1: Play over and over again. You know what happened, when happened?
Speaker 1: What do we know? We don't know.
Speaker 3: Something, something obviously very serious happened to Isaiah Bolden in
Speaker 3: that moment, in that instant and when he was when
Speaker 3: he was down motionless on the field. And as as
Speaker 3: you said, Paul, when the players from both teams immediately
Speaker 3: stop and gather, they know because they're close to the action,
Speaker 3: that there's something serious taking place, something serious going on.
Speaker 3: We can only hope that it resolves itself and we
Speaker 3: get some good news here soon, and we will very
Speaker 3: much stay on top of it, and you know, with
Speaker 3: with the people that we have in Green Bay, letting
Speaker 3: you know, as soon as we find something out and
Speaker 3: good news is what we're waiting for right now, which.
Speaker 1: Is hopefully something that we can and I think we can.
Speaker 5: You know, obviously, that's the story tonight, is Isaiah Bolden,
Speaker 5: and obviously that's first and foremost on everybody's mind. But
Speaker 5: I do think we can, you know, sort of move
Speaker 5: forward and talk about the game. We'll do a you know,
Speaker 5: a good good and the bads.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and obviously it's it's with a different kind of
Speaker 1: you know, especially for me.
Speaker 5: You know, probably not gonna get a lot of snark tonight,
Speaker 5: but just in general, probably a different tenor to our
Speaker 5: tone and whatnot. But I do think there were some
Speaker 5: good and bad things tonight that we, you know, should
Speaker 5: probably get into.
Speaker 3: I think we can even skip the good, the bad
Speaker 3: and the injured intro just because I don't know, it
Speaker 3: just doesn't feel like that.
Speaker 1: Type of a mood right now. But let's start.
Speaker 3: Uh, let's start with some stuff on the good list here,
Speaker 3: and as I I'll keep reiterating, as soon as we
Speaker 3: find out something about yeah, about Isaiah Bolden.
Speaker 1: Will let you know, we have our phones open.
Speaker 5: Everybody's sort of looking and see if we can hear
Speaker 5: anything from from our people that are actually at Lambeau.
Speaker 3: But in terms of good things that happened on the
Speaker 3: field tonight, before that happened, Mike, you want to lead
Speaker 3: us off.
Speaker 4: Here, Yeah, I thought, uh, I'll start with Kendrick Bourne.
Speaker 4: I mean I thought, uh, you know, a couple a
Speaker 4: couple of nice catches went up and got one. Just
Speaker 4: the kind of performance haven't really seen from Bourn top
Speaker 4: of my list, you know, in a while. You know,
Speaker 4: I love the catch he went up and got it.
Speaker 4: I love the little one on the sidelines as well. So, uh,
Speaker 4: you know, he didn't he didn't play a ton of snaps,
Speaker 4: but I thought he was, Uh, he was really active
Speaker 4: in a way that I haven't seen in a while.
Speaker 4: So you know, it's just a guy with positive energy
Speaker 4: getting a quality night. I think that'll be uh, that'll
Speaker 4: be a nice boost for for Kendrick Borne. Hopefully there
Speaker 4: is nice, nice little grab right there.
Speaker 3: I tell you what the the elevated catch. Uh, that's
Speaker 3: something that I don't know. Is that something that we
Speaker 3: can expect to see more of? Is that something you
Speaker 3: want to rely on?
Speaker 5: Is that something that is the only thing I mean
Speaker 5: this is I guess might qualify as snark and I'm
Speaker 5: not meaning it to be the only thing I liked
Speaker 5: about that play was the result, right, Like that's what okay?
Speaker 5: Like I thought that you know, the throw was high.
Speaker 5: Bourne does a great job of going to get it.
Speaker 5: But I'd rather not see I'd rather not see those
Speaker 5: kinds of plays. Those are the ones that you worry about,
Speaker 5: you know, big hits coming and whatnot. But I agree
Speaker 5: a thousand percent with with Mike. I thought Born on
Speaker 5: that first drive, you know, I my key to the
Speaker 5: game was I wanted to see a little offensive rhythm.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure I got it, but Born on that drive,
Speaker 5: the second and eleven slant this play right here, that
Speaker 5: that sets you up. You know, I would have liked
Speaker 5: to have see Listen, I'm I'm nitpicking. I would have
Speaker 5: liked to have seen it be a little bit crisper
Speaker 5: on a twenty yard drive than it was. But I
Speaker 5: really liked I really liked that slant from Born. And
Speaker 5: that's obviously they threw a ton of slants tonight, So
Speaker 5: I think it's safe to say that that's something Billy
Speaker 5: O'Brien wants to put in the in the playbook.
Speaker 3: We just saw the play right there, the elevated reception there.
Speaker 3: It's you know, you say, that's the type of play
Speaker 3: where you can get injured. Obviously that's the worst thing
Speaker 3: that can happen. There's a ton of other bad things.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, those are the ones that have end up
Speaker 5: in deflected interceptions, which is really more what I'm talking about.
Speaker 5: A guy goes up, it goes off his hands, easy
Speaker 5: pick for the safety way away in the back.
Speaker 1: So I agree with Mike. My first one is gonna
Speaker 1: be Mac himself.
Speaker 5: I thought I thought Mac wasn't great, but I thought
Speaker 5: he looked more like rookie year Mac tonight than he
Speaker 5: did last year. And I don't have a lot to quantify,
Speaker 5: you know. It was six for nine fifty two yards.
Speaker 5: It was a little choppy, but I thought his poise
Speaker 5: in the pocket was better tonight than what I remember
Speaker 5: it last year for most of the season. Maybe I'm
Speaker 5: looking at this with rose colored glasses a little bit,
Speaker 5: but I thought that I thought he resembled his rookie
Speaker 5: year self more so than than he did last year.
Speaker 5: And I thought they had some good third down conversions,
Speaker 5: you know, not a ton, not a ton of offense.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think they had like one hundred and
Speaker 5: twenty eight yards in the first half, so it wasn't
Speaker 5: a ton, but I thought there were signs there of
Speaker 5: better things to come.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: My first good of the night was the Patriots to
Speaker 3: capitalize on that penalty in the end zone and actually score.
Speaker 3: We were talking about it as we were watching Douce
Speaker 3: and I along with Tamara and Matt and Matt here
Speaker 3: because Paul of course is off in the BOP's Discount
Speaker 3: Furniture studio, you know, doing your thing called upon for
Speaker 3: television duty. But you know, Douce and I were talking
Speaker 3: about it's like, you know, that's that's a Patriots you
Speaker 3: know conversion right there. You know, you capitalize on a
Speaker 3: on a couple of things, kind.
Speaker 1: Of bought snap, you know, Like I mean, it was
Speaker 1: a little taste of last year, Like do.
Speaker 5: You understand what I'm saying that? Like what was the
Speaker 5: drive officially? Like twenty two yards? I'll tell you right, so,
Speaker 5: and I would feel like if it starts, it starts
Speaker 5: with the fumble recovery.
Speaker 1: Five yards twenty one, yeah, five place twenty and it's
Speaker 1: not surgic when it felt better if it was just
Speaker 1: you know, six yards five yards, four yards, eight yards,
Speaker 1: four yard touchdown run. Right, it was kind of a
Speaker 1: pick three. It was kind of a hardy pick three.
Speaker 3: But the fact is when you get gifted a couple
Speaker 3: of things and look that you know, the the botch
Speaker 3: snap is one thing. You got to recover the fumble, right,
Speaker 3: and then when you do get that penalty down inside
Speaker 3: in your first and goal. I was just thankful that
Speaker 3: it didn't.
Speaker 5: Take two or three plays from there to punch the
Speaker 5: ball and it would first much definitely about that. If
Speaker 5: the fade to Parker was a touchdown me I would too, okay,
Speaker 5: But I also at this stage, especially preseason, you're still
Speaker 5: working on things and you don't know what the offense
Speaker 5: is going to be. I mean, would it have shocked
Speaker 5: you if the Patriots came away from that, especially before
Speaker 5: the penalty, with only a field goal, And.
Speaker 1: It was just that's what I said, looking at it
Speaker 1: a lot different, okay, But it wasn't zone.
Speaker 5: We'd be looking at it differently and we wouldn't be
Speaker 5: all that surprised. It's like, well, you know, it's still
Speaker 5: a work in progress.
Speaker 3: They didn't have to settle for that. They took advantage
Speaker 3: of the things that fell their way. It went down
Speaker 3: as my first good of the night, it really yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: and a little.
Speaker 4: Bit kind of connected to Paul as My next one
Speaker 4: is Remondra Stevenson. You know, mostly just for that one run.
Speaker 4: But I thought on that run and I probably got
Speaker 4: to go back and look on it, but it felt
Speaker 4: like Mac audible to that.
Speaker 1: The long run. Yeah, yeah, he did absolutely, So you know,
Speaker 1: I think that I don't know how long it was,
Speaker 1: but twenty three yards good run, but good run.
Speaker 5: You know it wasn't you know again, it wasn't like
Speaker 5: it wasn't like a whole you know, just got blown
Speaker 5: open and he made a nice cut and then I
Speaker 5: thought he accelerated through.
Speaker 1: It's right here, just a good run. Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: victed Ramondra. I thought he looked good.
Speaker 4: I'm going to kind of use that as a platform though,
Speaker 4: to to just talk a little bit about Mac, because
Speaker 4: what you're saying, Paul is kind of what I felt
Speaker 4: a little bit in that first practice where he just
Speaker 4: looks a little bit more in command, a little bit
Speaker 4: more sure of what's going on. It hasn't you know,
Speaker 4: he didn't light the world up tonight, but he looked
Speaker 4: like he's recognizing what's coming at him. He's, you know,
Speaker 4: got the confidence to change to a run. And and
Speaker 4: I think that that was, you know, an example of
Speaker 4: a play where you know, it's Mac, it's all, it's
Speaker 4: the whole offense kind of clicking together.
Speaker 1: So I give him andre than nod. But but I
Speaker 1: think that that was as much connected to Macus as anything.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I liked the including that that Stevenson run and that,
Speaker 5: you know, the goal line run was not a walk
Speaker 5: in either. It was a tough, tough, hard fought run.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with Jalen Mills as well, who I
Speaker 5: thought was really active and quite honestly, I didn't love
Speaker 5: much of the other stuff I saw defensively too, but
Speaker 5: I thought he was pretty active. I thought he was
Speaker 5: around the ball a little bit. I thought he was,
Speaker 5: you know, his feisty self is, you know, always got
Speaker 5: something to say. I thought he was pretty active, and
Speaker 5: he made a play. They ended up not mattering because
Speaker 5: they got the first down on the next play, but
Speaker 5: he made an unbelievable tackle on a like a I
Speaker 5: think it was like third and two, and it didn't
Speaker 5: seem like it was possible to stop it short of
Speaker 5: the first down, and he did made a great tackle
Speaker 5: to prevent the first down. So I thought he was
Speaker 5: pretty active in this game tonight, and I didn't really
Speaker 5: think many other defensive players were, so he stood out
Speaker 5: to me.
Speaker 1: What else he got good stuff tonight? Mike, I was
Speaker 1: starting to get down to the bottom of the barrel
Speaker 1: here probably J Taylor. Yeah, that's that's a good one.
Speaker 1: You want to Yeah, he's out, you're taking Yeah again,
Speaker 1: this is good. He's this is what he does. What
Speaker 1: he does preseason electric little August August, second half, second
Speaker 1: third stringers, he's he's ready to go, and you know
Speaker 1: he's just you wonder at what point is uh is
Speaker 1: it going to translate ever to an actual real game
Speaker 1: and and you know, consistent production uh in the NFL.
Speaker 1: But you know, every time he gets in there, I
Speaker 1: mean it's it's funny because I remember when he was
Speaker 1: like a potential undrafted free agent and just saying, you know, look,
Speaker 1: I don't have high hosts, but he'd be a lot
Speaker 1: of fun to watch in the preseason. And you know,
Speaker 1: here we are, three four seasons later, we're still watching
Speaker 1: JJ Taylor dance around the preseason football field. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a fun I appreciate Hardy for feeding me that one, though.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought he showed a little uh look, JJ
Speaker 5: Taylor wiggle. I don't think there's another running back that
Speaker 5: they have that as that. Yeah, I mean, I don't
Speaker 5: know if it translates to a job, but yeah, he
Speaker 5: does have a skill that's the thing that the other
Speaker 5: guys in that backfield don't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, four carries for twenty nine yards. He had three
Speaker 3: catches for another twenty seven So okay, yeah that's three.
Speaker 1: That's a good that's a good inclusion.
Speaker 3: Hardy, show me, show me a little something there, and
Speaker 3: it's enough to keep things moving there and and and
Speaker 3: provide a little bit of a spark in it, you
Speaker 3: know late in the game where you're wondering, it's like,
Speaker 3: well is this it?
Speaker 1: Is this all that they have?
Speaker 7: Now?
Speaker 3: They got a few other things there. I don't know
Speaker 3: if it's going to translate anything into the regular season,
Speaker 3: but that's you know, when you're called upon to do
Speaker 3: something in a game like this at that time, you're gonna.
Speaker 1: Do it or not. He did it, well, they'll put
Speaker 1: him on the good list. Yeah.
Speaker 5: So I'm also going to put Kashawan Boodie on the
Speaker 5: good list. Yeah, I got him, just be more so
Speaker 5: than tonight. I think that that's what you want to
Speaker 5: see from your young guys, like a sending player. I
Speaker 5: think he's been coming on a little bit. The last
Speaker 5: handful of camp practices that we saw in Foxborough, a
Speaker 5: lot of people talked about what he did in the
Speaker 5: first day of the joint practices, and he gets an
Speaker 5: opportunity to hit that slant. Now that, like I said,
Speaker 5: the Patriots threw a lot of these tonight. He you know,
Speaker 5: obviously he takes advantage of a bad angle by the
Speaker 5: safety there, but you know, you saw some of the
Speaker 5: lsu explosiveness, you know, with the ball in his hands
Speaker 5: after the catch, no one was catching him.
Speaker 1: That's what he did at college. I mean, this looked
Speaker 1: like the kind of place he had there. So yeah,
Speaker 1: so he called my good list. Yeah he born.
Speaker 3: Douglas Adam is a nice third down conversion early on
Speaker 3: in the game.
Speaker 5: Tell you what I really liked about that particular play
Speaker 5: is and Zoe talked about this a little bit on
Speaker 5: on the broadcast, sort of read the coverage and sat
Speaker 5: in like, I'm not positive that the way we talked
Speaker 5: about on the broadcast is right, but it kind of
Speaker 5: looked like they recognized the coverage and threw it back,
Speaker 5: you know, like behind him, almost back shoulder on purpose.
Speaker 5: And the important thing for Douglas is to recognize that.
Speaker 5: And you know that was that was that was a
Speaker 5: nice conversion. That was like a third and ten.
Speaker 1: I think yeah, third and ten. I mean it's just
Speaker 1: like confidence, you know.
Speaker 5: I think for Mac you know, young receiver that's those
Speaker 5: are the kind of plays that makes those to me,
Speaker 5: like he sits there now on first blush, you can
Speaker 5: look as it's a bad throw.
Speaker 1: It's behind him. He's supposed to put it on him there.
Speaker 1: You don't want to lead him because you lead him
Speaker 1: and you're gonna get him lit up. Yeah.
Speaker 3: By the way, we have a statement from the Patriots
Speaker 3: in Isaiah Bolden. Patriots cornerback Isaiah Bolden sustained an injury
Speaker 3: during the fourth quarter of tonight's game. He had feeling
Speaker 3: in all his extremities, but has been taken to a
Speaker 3: local hospital for further tests and observation.
Speaker 5: I think that's probably about as good as you could
Speaker 5: hope for. That's a statement, guess at this hour.
Speaker 3: Yep, good, fine, Okay, Well, we'll take it as we
Speaker 3: can get it, and of course we want the all clear.
Speaker 3: That's not going to happen right away now they're going
Speaker 3: to check them out.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, it's just I mean, I think at this point
Speaker 4: you start with DeMar Hamlin, all right, his heart didn't
Speaker 4: stop apparently, and he's you know, hopefully not paralyzed, and
Speaker 4: those are you know, the two biggest things to start with,
Speaker 4: and you know, hopefully he's able to begin a road
Speaker 4: to recovery.
Speaker 1: But just yeah, good to hear that.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, So I don't know that we're going
Speaker 3: to get any more officially uh tonight, but.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you know, I think you guys are right.
Speaker 5: I think that's that's about as good as you could
Speaker 5: hope for right now. I would say, just you know,
Speaker 5: continuing some of these good things that I saw tonight,
Speaker 5: I think you could put Zappi in both categories. I
Speaker 5: thought he was a little reckless, but he made some
Speaker 5: place he's a gamer that he's a gamer. And the
Speaker 5: other thing that it really stuck out to me was
Speaker 5: I thought their coverage tonight and special teams was really good.
Speaker 5: You know, Chris Board. Now they had some penalties and
Speaker 5: specialtim Chris Board, Brendan's school, or some punt returns. I
Speaker 5: look like they had some room, they had some space
Speaker 5: to operate. They weren't really able to generate a whole lot,
Speaker 5: not without penalties anyway. So those are a couple of
Speaker 5: things that I had scribbled down.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm kind of down to plays now myself, you know,
Speaker 4: maybe just a couple stick taps, Asho would say in
Speaker 4: hockey fork for Miles Bryant, nice past breakup.
Speaker 1: On third and four, excellent third down cut, really good
Speaker 1: third down. I want to give one thank you. Uh
Speaker 1: I also another another third down pass break up for
Speaker 1: Rodney Randall. That that third and eight that that I liked,
Speaker 1: and I got that you would have to make fun
Speaker 1: of my hot Rodney Randall him, and uh yeah, there's
Speaker 1: just those two plays specifically.
Speaker 4: I thought we're good coverage, and especially two guys who
Speaker 4: you know, have certainly been been picked on a little
Speaker 4: bit here the last couple of weeks. So nice play
Speaker 4: by Miles and a nice play for Rodney Randall there, right,
Speaker 4: writing coverage and you know, avoiding getting a penalty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's get to some of the bads.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, let me let me just lead us off,
Speaker 3: because I like to go chronologically with how I kind
Speaker 3: of keep track of these things. That the first one
Speaker 3: I had on the night was after that turnover, the
Speaker 3: false start by Trent Brown. I mean, I'm just it's
Speaker 3: it's exactly what you don't want.
Speaker 1: To see in a preseason game.
Speaker 3: It's like, it doesn't have to be perfect, it doesn't
Speaker 3: have to be flawless, eye popping execution on offense. How
Speaker 3: about when when you when you get the ball and
Speaker 3: it's okay, here's here you go, it's your first play
Speaker 3: from scrimmage, what are we gonna do? The guy that
Speaker 3: everyone's is saying, it's like, oh, you kinda have Trent
Speaker 3: Brown in there and engaged and playing and playing his
Speaker 3: game both mentally and physically.
Speaker 1: And it's the false start that you know.
Speaker 3: On the broadcast, I think they said, any official in
Speaker 3: the league is going to call that. It's glaring, it's obvious,
Speaker 3: it's right there. And that's just after a whole season,
Speaker 3: you got away with it everything.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say. I was like, I'm like, that's
Speaker 1: what he did all last year, Like how many times
Speaker 1: he literally did that college they didn't call it. I
Speaker 1: couldn't believe it. And when they started off.
Speaker 3: With that, there were a handful of times I remember
Speaker 3: last year and I was saying like, wow, I can't
Speaker 3: believe they didn't catch that.
Speaker 1: But I mean it was this one tonight. It's like,
Speaker 1: there's no way he's thinking I can I can keep
Speaker 1: playing like that. And get away with it. I mean
Speaker 1: this one might have been a little bit more egregious
Speaker 1: than the ones last. Yeah, it's just unbelieve, but it's
Speaker 1: still him.
Speaker 4: And I don't know what it says about, like if
Speaker 4: he feels that he doesn't have the speed to get
Speaker 4: out there or what. But either way, they took him
Speaker 4: out of the game because there he's I mean, they
Speaker 4: got Bill Murray playing tackle now, their tackle depth is
Speaker 4: so thin that this guy who's already you know, jumping
Speaker 4: off you know, false starting first play of the series
Speaker 4: of the game, like.
Speaker 1: They got to put him in ice, Like they can't
Speaker 1: afford to lose.
Speaker 5: Him, so they I totally agree with you, Hardy on
Speaker 5: that one. I had him high on my list, and yeah,
Speaker 5: you couldn't play him as long as you played the
Speaker 5: rest of the starters.
Speaker 1: You couldn't bear to lose him right now.
Speaker 5: I mean he played a lot of snaps and the
Speaker 5: joint practices. You would have thought he would have been
Speaker 5: able to at least stay out there for the I
Speaker 5: think it was fifty I have mac for sixteen snaps
Speaker 5: plus two penalties, and he couldn't make it all the way.
Speaker 1: Because the last of those sixteen snaps. He's going to
Speaker 1: show up later in.
Speaker 3: The Yeah, So I just wanted to get that off
Speaker 3: my chest before we start talking about either of the
Speaker 3: MAC or more micro.
Speaker 1: But that's I mean, that was first. But Deuce, you
Speaker 1: want to you want to take it? Next? Run defense,
Speaker 1: Run defense. Holy I had that at the top of
Speaker 1: the list just based on the handful of plays before
Speaker 1: the bad snap. Yeah. Yeah, I was like, what is
Speaker 1: going on here? All the starters are out there, what
Speaker 1: are we doing? I mean, you know, Gotshaw getting pushed around.
Speaker 4: I mean, turnt like it's it's I mean, part of
Speaker 4: it is, you know, preseason and YadA, YadA, YadA. But still,
Speaker 4: I mean, it was it was all game. On the touchdown,
Speaker 4: I think was Zuchain Bledsoe got kind of pinned inside.
Speaker 4: It's just I mean, I think even Bill addressed it
Speaker 4: before halftime. I think that was like one thing that
Speaker 4: even brought up, which even says it's definitely an issue
Speaker 4: if he's willing to.
Speaker 5: Bring it out right twenty two for ninety four yards
Speaker 5: point three to carry in the first half, when you
Speaker 5: basically went wired to wire with your starters on defense
Speaker 5: and they didn't have all the starters on offense, but
Speaker 5: the runs, the running game, even after I think Daron
Speaker 5: Jones only had one carry, you know, Dylan had a handful,
Speaker 5: and then a couple of guys that I wasn't overully
Speaker 5: familiar with were breaking tackles. So yeah, I think that
Speaker 5: was Interchane and Bill saying that at halftime. Mike stood
Speaker 5: out to me too, And unfortunately, I think on the broadcast,
Speaker 5: you know, we misunderstood it.
Speaker 1: And by we, I don't mean me.
Speaker 5: We kept talking about Bill wanted to get more production
Speaker 5: out of the running game. I think he was talking
Speaker 5: about improving the run defense when he was talking to
Speaker 5: Steve Burton at halftime, he said, we got to get
Speaker 5: better against the run. I'm you know, something like that
Speaker 5: that was that was not good, I mean better at
Speaker 5: this time of year. But you have gotcha, guy, Carl
Speaker 5: Davis should be allowing you know, ninety four yards rushing
Speaker 5: in the first half of the game.
Speaker 1: So I absoletely agree with you.
Speaker 3: And I'm just wondering, Deuce, did you see anything that
Speaker 3: they were doing defensively that would have explain that or.
Speaker 4: Were they're just getting out muscled, They're getting unplayed? You know,
Speaker 4: I think that's and and I thought the run defense.
Speaker 3: Was was anything scheme wise that they were allowing for.
Speaker 3: They're like, you know, what does Jordan love He's actually
Speaker 3: he's got a little bit more.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, there's fairness they did.
Speaker 5: They did a lot of the misdirection stuff, so they
Speaker 5: have to be disciplined and on the edge, which I
Speaker 5: thought they did a really good job of.
Speaker 1: Probably should have teacher Kwis was a nice one.
Speaker 5: Probably should have included that in the good But I
Speaker 5: thought all of the guys on the edge for the
Speaker 5: most part, didn't allow the quarterback that comfortable throw.
Speaker 1: You're supposed to. You do that hard play action and
Speaker 1: the you know, the the misdirection boot.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, usually that Usually it's like they got that
Speaker 5: deep crosser coming. But every time they did it, it
Speaker 5: seemed like the Patriots were in his face and didn't
Speaker 5: let didn't allow him to have the time that you
Speaker 5: would want.
Speaker 4: On those I think I think what you saw too
Speaker 4: on those plays was kind of what I saw from
Speaker 4: love and practice, where you know, like when.
Speaker 1: It's clean, it's good, but like he kind of pants,
Speaker 1: oh man, not there, it's it's it's The first three
Speaker 1: or four plays of the game were a nightmare. For him.
Speaker 1: Now after that, I thought he was pretty impressive. I don't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I want to like talk about him specifically
Speaker 3: a little bit later, so we can we can do that,
Speaker 3: but we'll we'll stick with some of the things that again,
Speaker 3: trying to remain positive here tonight. And by the way,
Speaker 3: if you if you're just like joining us here and
Speaker 3: you're wondering what's going on with Isaiah Bolden, there was
Speaker 3: a statement from the Patriots. They said that Bolden sustained
Speaker 3: an injury. He had feeling in all his extremities, but
Speaker 3: has been taken to a local hospital for further tests
Speaker 3: and observation. So I think that's it's might be all
Speaker 3: we get officially from the team tonight, but so far
Speaker 3: that is that. I will take that as good news
Speaker 3: in terms of what's going on. So but I'm just
Speaker 3: trying to remain positive overall. That's you know, that's gonna
Speaker 3: be my main mantra tonight. So instead of you know,
Speaker 3: bad things that things that could be worked on, how
Speaker 3: about this?
Speaker 1: What else? What else could hey, Paul, what else could
Speaker 1: the Patriots be working on this week? Well? What else
Speaker 1: did I think stood out to me?
Speaker 5: Sam Roberts, some bad discipline, and I was a little disappointed,
Speaker 5: Like and I actually I sent Fred a text in
Speaker 5: the middle of the game. Obviously there was a lot
Speaker 5: of emotion on the field on Thursday. You know, it
Speaker 5: was pretty chippy. I was a little disappointed to see
Speaker 5: that spill over into the game. I would have thought
Speaker 5: with whatever the nonsense was before the game, and I
Speaker 5: saw some footage of that. I don't know if you
Speaker 5: notice it, it looked like our guys ran right through
Speaker 5: there guys in pregame on So I just thought that
Speaker 5: that kind of start, I would have thought there would
Speaker 5: be nothing tonight in this game after the way Thursday's
Speaker 5: practice ended. Sam Roberts is trying to hustle and make
Speaker 5: a play. I don't think there was necessary. I don't
Speaker 5: think there was anything cheap about that. But then the reaction,
Speaker 5: it's like, I'm gonna get up and I'm gonna start
Speaker 5: pushing guys, and guess who comes in from the back.
Speaker 1: Thirteam as always.
Speaker 5: Seeing if this is the pregame right here, Sam Roberts,
Speaker 5: I thought, was a little undisciplined on that play, and
Speaker 5: I was a little It's it's not really about Sam
Speaker 5: Roberts as much to me as it was about the Patriots.
Speaker 5: I thought they looked like the other teams tonight, and
Speaker 5: I sort of think the Patriots are above that.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe that's a me problem. I have to
Speaker 1: start thinking differently. What else he got, dudes? I got
Speaker 1: situational defense. That was you know, a problem last week
Speaker 1: with with giving up you know, a score right before
Speaker 1: the half. And then again they allowed you know, a
Speaker 1: field goal drive right before the half. You know, big
Speaker 1: big play along the sidelines. Tough to tell. Uh if
Speaker 1: he did get both feet down in bounds, I mean, oh,
Speaker 1: he clearly did, did he? Yeah, I don't really understand
Speaker 1: what I should keep my problems, Telecat. My eyes didn't
Speaker 1: see it.
Speaker 5: He got he gets one foot down, clearly the right,
Speaker 5: and then he the he toe tapped the other foot,
Speaker 5: and they sort of tackled him out of bounds to
Speaker 5: lift his foot off the ground.
Speaker 1: But both feet were on the ground. This is the
Speaker 1: ankle right here.
Speaker 5: Now you watch here do such a great job of
Speaker 5: getting these plays. Okay, so he's he's got the ball. Now,
Speaker 5: foots down, second foot tap right there. Watch the grass
Speaker 5: comes up, you can see it. And then they lift
Speaker 5: them up off the ground and he goes out of bounds.
Speaker 5: If he like had tapped the toe and then the
Speaker 5: heel came down out of bounce, it would be incomplete.
Speaker 5: But I think his foot comes off the ground here
Speaker 5: and he has two feet left foot in his hands,
Speaker 5: right foot down right there.
Speaker 1: See. I think initially I thought he I didn't think you.
Speaker 5: Would just you would just like Bobbin, I thought. So
Speaker 5: the first replay I saw, I looked at I said,
Speaker 5: he's in. And then we're getting the you know like
Speaker 5: when you you have all the sort of whatever the
Speaker 5: in stadium, like the live feed.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not a television veteran. I don't know what
Speaker 5: all those different feeds are called. But we were listening
Speaker 5: to the referee talked to the truck.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Oh I wasn't, but oh yeah, the you know, the
Speaker 5: guy that's with me in the studio is and yeah.
Speaker 5: They kept saying like, oh, he's other foots out of bounds.
Speaker 5: I think it's his left foot they said, was out
Speaker 5: of bonds. I was like, no, his toes in.
Speaker 3: So that it took me until seen at this time
Speaker 3: right now to realize, No, what I see is what
Speaker 3: you pointed out. The first time, Paul is that he
Speaker 3: drags the left foot long before that that foot, the
Speaker 3: foot comes up after he drags it the first time
Speaker 3: he has the ball. So to me, the point in
Speaker 3: the play is actually before what we're looking at right now.
Speaker 3: It's a little bit before that. He's got a drag
Speaker 3: that happens early on in the catch here and now
Speaker 3: we got the rewreck.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 3: It is the left foot drag. You see the grass
Speaker 3: come up was left foot right after.
Speaker 5: Yes, that I mean that he's got the ball and
Speaker 5: that foots down and the other foot click comes down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can see the grass coming up there. So
Speaker 3: that's from the toe, left foot got down, right foots in.
Speaker 3: It's a catch.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: The only thing was to me is like does he
Speaker 5: actually secure it? And then when I saw the replay,
Speaker 5: it was like he clearly had it, he never lost
Speaker 5: control of it.
Speaker 1: We reviewed it.
Speaker 4: Great catch, great play. I mean, I thought the covers
Speaker 4: was pretty good. That's like one of those plays where.
Speaker 1: That was a terrible throw. That's the only thing I
Speaker 1: could say about that. But Jordan love.
Speaker 4: But but to the bigger point though, it was just
Speaker 4: you know that situational football, and you know as much
Speaker 4: as you can maybe pars away run defense in the
Speaker 4: like situational football in the preseason, it's hard to really
Speaker 4: have a flow of your defense.
Speaker 1: So I get it.
Speaker 4: But still two weeks in a row, you've given up
Speaker 4: a score right before the half. A couple of years ago,
Speaker 4: that was a problem for this defense.
Speaker 1: So that was another one.
Speaker 5: That's just something to minute drive after the Patriots tied
Speaker 5: it to allow that, to allow that field goal at
Speaker 5: the end of the half. I totally agree with you, Mike,
Speaker 5: that's worth talking about again.
Speaker 1: A lot of they were driving to at that, you know,
Speaker 1: when they ended the game. I mean that was you know,
Speaker 1: a yeah. I mean they were going to cheat.
Speaker 5: They were going to score at the end of the game,
Speaker 5: but there was still a lot of time over ten
Speaker 5: minutes left. The Patriots might have gone down and scored
Speaker 5: again too. But the slants I thought were a problem
Speaker 5: for both teams. But I thought the slants were a
Speaker 5: problem with Clifford in the game. Looked like he was
Speaker 5: every every third down, every third down, he was just
Speaker 5: finding someone to throw a slant to and had no
Speaker 5: problems with it.
Speaker 1: Didn't like Gonzales again tonight. Uh. I liked his tackle
Speaker 1: on third down. I was gonna. I thought that I
Speaker 1: liked it better if it was you know before the
Speaker 1: first album was well, wasn't the third and nine? Yea,
Speaker 1: yeah it was. It was late. It was late in
Speaker 1: the game. I don't know. I I could have swear
Speaker 1: in the second half tackle.
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm not talking about anything in the second half,
Speaker 5: because that's all the backups were.
Speaker 1: In the first half. He was abused.
Speaker 5: I think he was off coverage again. Some of it
Speaker 5: was zone, some of it. I don't like his lack
Speaker 5: of physicality. He's not playing as well in the two
Speaker 5: games as he does every day in practice. I love
Speaker 5: him more in practice. I think I'm going to disagree
Speaker 5: a little bit. I thought he was more physical to
Speaker 5: night than he was last week.
Speaker 1: I thought that the PI he got on tough call.
Speaker 1: Accurate call, but I thought that he showed pretty impressive
Speaker 1: makeup speed to get back into the guy in phase
Speaker 1: with the guy. I'm not totally disagree with that. He
Speaker 1: had a good game. I just think for me, he
Speaker 1: looked like he looked a little bit better this week
Speaker 1: than he looked.
Speaker 5: I will say I agree with you on the PI.
Speaker 5: It was a penalty, but I didn't think it was
Speaker 5: a terrible play by him. Yeah, it's a tough I mean,
Speaker 5: it's a tough call.
Speaker 4: A lot of guys are gonna get caught and get
Speaker 4: toasted by that. And I just was like, wow, he
Speaker 4: at least was able to make up and make it competitive.
Speaker 5: Well he, I mean he did get beat, but when
Speaker 5: the throw was short and the receiver has to come
Speaker 5: back and he goes through the defense, like, I don't
Speaker 5: really think it was terrible coverage. In other words, I
Speaker 5: thought that was the least of my problems. I know,
Speaker 5: one of them was a zone that he gave up
Speaker 5: a catch on the side, just to me when the
Speaker 5: balls were caught by that. But this might not have
Speaker 5: been his guy, you know, so let me let me
Speaker 5: just state that maybe this was all zone and it
Speaker 5: wasn't all his fault when he was the closest guy.
Speaker 5: I didn't like the way he like he had won
Speaker 5: that he go over and shouldered the guy when he
Speaker 5: was virtually out of bounds already. And of course we
Speaker 5: went crazy about it, but I didn't. I just didn't
Speaker 5: like you know, his Yeah, this this is the p
Speaker 5: I right, that's an unfortunate play. I agree with Mike
Speaker 5: on this, I think it's a penalty, but I don't
Speaker 5: think he get He got beat initially in the move
Speaker 5: and then he fo see how she see how how
Speaker 5: short the throw was, he bumps them.
Speaker 1: He bumps them right here. But when the balls in
Speaker 1: the air right right there.
Speaker 5: Now again, I'm with Mike, my league, those aren't penalties,
Speaker 5: just like the one on the uh on Booty wasn't
Speaker 5: a penalty to me that they called at the end
Speaker 5: of the first half. Like Booty makes a double move
Speaker 5: and the guy standing there and Booty runs over him.
Speaker 1: What's he supposed to do? Right?
Speaker 8: Like?
Speaker 5: I didn't think either one of those are penalties. But
Speaker 5: in this league, those are penalties. I hate that.
Speaker 1: I hate them.
Speaker 3: How about one that I think we can all agree on? Now,
Speaker 3: I don't know, and I wasn't watching him specifically and
Speaker 3: closely enough throughout the night, but the plays specifically stubor
Speaker 3: after the fumble or strip sack, whatever it was, he
Speaker 3: got beat badly. He got beat, and then he looks
Speaker 3: at the ball on the ground, as Matt Lapan said
Speaker 3: in a moment of Cam Newton like self preservation, kind
Speaker 3: of like looking at the ball like now.
Speaker 1: I'd like to give him the benefit of that.
Speaker 3: I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt
Speaker 3: and think like he thought it was an incomplete pass,
Speaker 3: there's no point in jumping on it. I ha's a
Speaker 3: preseason football game.
Speaker 1: Watch Mac get pile drive. Did you see that? Did
Speaker 1: you catch that? Real time? Paul ninety four? Just but
Speaker 1: but watch Stubor once the ball is on the ground.
Speaker 1: I don't know that you watched mac watch mac ready.
Speaker 5: Well that's a little cheap. Yeah, I did not notice that.
Speaker 5: That's a little bit cheap. Yeah, yeah, watch he just
Speaker 5: of course it was. I mean it was after about
Speaker 5: seven other fights.
Speaker 1: In this game.
Speaker 3: In the in the wider angle shot, you can see
Speaker 3: Stubor kind of like watching the ball the first one
Speaker 3: that we saw, and it's like, oh, look at that,
Speaker 3: Oh isn't it isn't that interesting?
Speaker 1: I totally agree with your party. I also just I
Speaker 1: almost put that more party. I think, party, party, party.
Speaker 1: I almost put this one more on the Patriots because
Speaker 1: you have no left tackles, Like Andrew Stubert was never
Speaker 1: a left tackle in college. He's playing left tackle like,
Speaker 1: it's fine, he should have gotten the ball.
Speaker 3: Our left tackles the only ones that are supposed to
Speaker 3: jump out loose balls.
Speaker 5: I get it, but it's still I know you're you're
Speaker 5: talking about his reaction most I'm talking about a guy.
Speaker 1: Who said, I don't know, is he definitely on the team. No, no, okay, no,
Speaker 1: but he might have to because they have no other tackles. Okay,
Speaker 1: but he's not a lock like my one roster projection did. Not.
Speaker 3: If I wanted to play football that I think I'd
Speaker 3: be jumping on on the loose ball.
Speaker 1: Oh, here we go again, the mac pile drive one
Speaker 1: more time. Let's see it. Ready. You're kind of overstating
Speaker 1: that he looks like he reacted to the ball. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're not. We're not. We're not getting it. We're not
Speaker 1: getting a great And I didn't think the way I
Speaker 1: thought he was hurt in real.
Speaker 3: Time it was noticeable. Watch, let's watch it again. Here
Speaker 3: we go, he's looking at it.
Speaker 1: He got up and immediately lunched to the ball. I
Speaker 1: don't think it was as bad now that I've actually
Speaker 1: focused the whole time. He was watching, not getting And
Speaker 1: now I'm like, I mean, could he have just like
Speaker 1: lunched at it me? I don't know. I don't say
Speaker 1: that he lunged at the ball.
Speaker 3: When he steps up and does the double hitch, and
Speaker 3: it's like, maybe I'm going to try and get myself
Speaker 3: over there.
Speaker 1: To get on football. Just be bad, And he's like,
Speaker 1: all just reason to scamper right, the ball was on
Speaker 1: the ground. He reacted to it. Oh okay, well here
Speaker 1: I watch okay, he got up one and immediately went
Speaker 1: I mean he had no chance at it.
Speaker 3: You're right, he's moving just as fast as all the
Speaker 3: other guys who actually made it to the ball.
Speaker 1: You're right. I have a question.
Speaker 5: I'm being I'm being too rough. I have a question
Speaker 5: on this play. What constitutes defensive holding.
Speaker 1: When you hold the guy past two yards of the scrimmage?
Speaker 1: He rips him down. Watch watch when he comes around.
Speaker 1: If we can rewrap that guys. I love when we rewrap.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 5: All I know is that I just love throwing crap out.
Speaker 5: As he comes around the corner fifty five? Was that
Speaker 5: uh a goomble what's what's his name? Yeah, you got it,
Speaker 5: the goomble wale something like that.
Speaker 1: I don't know. He watch watch him, you see him
Speaker 1: he rips him down by the shoulder. Yeah, Like is
Speaker 1: it can that be holding you guys don't see it?
Speaker 1: Huh might be at home. I'm sorry, who am I
Speaker 1: looking at? I don't know.
Speaker 5: The guy who beats Stuber grabs him by the shoulder
Speaker 5: and pulls him down and pulls him down right there?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's interesting. Is can that be? Is that legal?
Speaker 1: Or is that? Can that be? Holding men? I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't ask for a friend. I mean, on one hand,
Speaker 1: I would say he was already kind of passed.
Speaker 5: I don't know he got I'm not trying to defend
Speaker 5: stubor I'm asking if that's a penalty.
Speaker 1: That's all I thought you were saying offensive holding, no defensive.
Speaker 1: I was looking at like guys downfield. Well, there's like
Speaker 1: twenty two guys out there. It's so hard. It's actually.
Speaker 5: I was talking about the guy who knocked the quarterback down. Okay,
Speaker 5: you may have noticed it when you weren't.
Speaker 1: Making fun of him for not recovering the fumble.
Speaker 3: You know what, he he made a heady play, and
Speaker 3: I salute him, put him on the good list.
Speaker 1: I didn't say he made a heady play. Let's see,
Speaker 1: you's got I got to take it ridiculous. Tom Comror
Speaker 1: with a little pat in the back from Mac Jones.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I like that. I was just watching
Speaker 1: Mac Jones get violated each time on that replay. But uh,
Speaker 1: that was that was unfortunate. Okay, how about uh I
Speaker 1: had sixty four sack, by the way, I had sixty
Speaker 1: four sack. How about so beating on that third and
Speaker 1: nine for another sack.
Speaker 5: I know, I know that's what's been going on. That's
Speaker 5: what's been going on, actually going on. Yeah, no, on
Speaker 5: the good list too, No no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 5: I thought the pass protection right up until the last
Speaker 5: play where Stuber gets beat was pretty good.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I thought even on that sack that's so allowed, I
Speaker 5: thought it was a covered sack. I thought Mac had time,
Speaker 5: you know, so gets beat. You can see him, he's
Speaker 5: on he gets bull rushed there. But I thought he
Speaker 5: had time to step bank throw and then all of
Speaker 5: a sudden aheah, you know it. This wasn't the same
Speaker 5: as the strip sack. In other words, I mean, the
Speaker 5: strip sack was immediate, and Riley Reef.
Speaker 1: Is also getting just walked right back in the Mac too.
Speaker 5: But yeah, and I thought Mac did a good job
Speaker 5: otherwise of sort of navigating the pocket moving up internal clock.
Speaker 5: That the play that he ran near the goal line
Speaker 5: on second and goal when he slid. Oh, by the way,
Speaker 5: did you see him looking for a flag on that.
Speaker 5: As much as I say I liked the way he
Speaker 5: looked tonight, he had to throw one of.
Speaker 1: Those in there.
Speaker 3: Is that Eric was queuing up the videos and having
Speaker 3: him ready to go here in a moment's notice. Chris,
Speaker 3: great job again this week. Unbelievable, well done. Every everything
Speaker 3: we're talking about there and it's just bomit's right up there.
Speaker 3: It's it's almost like a real show.
Speaker 1: So I being not afraid to throw the ball into coverage.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 1: Three, four or five guys that good or bad? I
Speaker 1: think it's a great thing. But he did make some
Speaker 1: good plays.
Speaker 5: I mean the play that he the little dump off
Speaker 5: at the end of the first half when he was
Speaker 5: under a lot of pressure. He was kind of scrambling
Speaker 5: around and he found JJ Taylor. It's good play.
Speaker 3: Do we have other specific bads we want to get to? Obviously,
Speaker 3: the the only injury that we're going to be talking
Speaker 3: about is Isaiah Boldene and the Patriots have released his
Speaker 3: statement saying he had feeling in all his extremities and
Speaker 3: that he was taken to a local hospital to be
Speaker 3: checked out. So I'm taking that as good news right now.
Speaker 3: Trey Nixon.
Speaker 1: Trey Nixon looked like that was significant. That was that
Speaker 1: was also looked like you were afraid.
Speaker 5: It was like, I think it broken arm or I
Speaker 5: think it is you think so, Yeah, that's what it
Speaker 5: looked like to me live and they they made an
Speaker 5: announcement again in the truck that it was a shoulder
Speaker 5: injury they're calling it.
Speaker 4: But the guy just lands right on his arms you
Speaker 4: can see, and it looks like they're popping out or breaking.
Speaker 5: I don't want to make anybody, you know, queasy, but
Speaker 5: right there it looks like it turned it away it's
Speaker 5: not supposed to. And then he immediately grabs you see
Speaker 5: he grabs here on the arm. He doesn't grab his shoulder.
Speaker 5: And that's not an easy bone to break. I played
Speaker 5: in high school with a kid who broke that bone.
Speaker 5: It's not it's not pretty. The humorous, well, that's funny
Speaker 5: at all.
Speaker 3: I And again, we don't know, and that that's also
Speaker 3: kind of the problem with watching some of these things
Speaker 3: in replay. I bet you could zoom in on any
Speaker 3: number of contacts, whether it's on the line or after
Speaker 3: a tackle, and think like, oh my god, how are
Speaker 3: you gonna, you know, recover from that. There's all kinds
Speaker 3: of things that look bad. That one looks bad even
Speaker 3: you know, in context of everything else that's going on,
Speaker 3: just the way it kind of bends. But he wasn't
Speaker 3: announced with anything other than his shoulders, so we don't know.
Speaker 1: I'll just hope that I'll.
Speaker 4: Throw one more at you bad another bed. I'm just
Speaker 4: going to say, Sean Wade on the on the crosser
Speaker 4: on the TV.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I thought that he had been making head
Speaker 5: and that's more why, because otherwise I would have just
Speaker 5: been kind of like, eh, but he had a good
Speaker 5: he had a good couple of days and uh, you know,
Speaker 5: it's just kind of one of those inopportune times he
Speaker 5: allowed it just when you look on I had a
Speaker 5: Sean Wade theory that you know, maybe I'm thinking twice
Speaker 5: about now. So if Jack Jones is part of the equation,
Speaker 5: it's Jack Jones and Gonzalez. And by the way, there's
Speaker 5: another positive element tonight was those two guys starting.
Speaker 1: I liked that.
Speaker 5: But if he can't play, and like, if you need
Speaker 5: someone else on the outside. My Sean Wade's performance the
Speaker 5: last couple of days, you know, week plus, I think
Speaker 5: he's been around the ball a lot this camp is
Speaker 5: wouldn't he be a better option on the outside than
Speaker 5: like Miles Bryant.
Speaker 1: I think so.
Speaker 5: I mean, honestly, Marcus Jones. Marcus Jones got a lot
Speaker 5: of snaps on the outside in Green Bay.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, unfortunately, I would have I would have been,
Speaker 4: you know, saying Isaiah Bolden, you know, I mean I
Speaker 4: think before he unfortunately got hurt, he was, you know,
Speaker 4: getting picked on a little bit.
Speaker 1: But Wade Bolden one of those guys. They might they
Speaker 1: might need one of those guys.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So just something to keep in mind. I think
Speaker 5: Wade's size might be more attractive than like it.
Speaker 4: Might be like right tackle, you just might not have
Speaker 4: a choice. You just have to play somebody there. And
Speaker 4: I hope that that that they get it, or that
Speaker 4: you know, somebody else.
Speaker 5: Is obviously best case is if you could get Jones,
Speaker 5: Jones and Gonzales, those three guys, and then you have
Speaker 5: Marcus Jones and whoever else you want, if it's Brian,
Speaker 5: if it's Wade, whoever. Yeah, but my my take development
Speaker 5: was that Wade could get a job over Brian because
Speaker 5: they don't really need Brian as a punt returner or
Speaker 5: anything like that. They have some depth of that spot, although,
Speaker 5: like you said, you're losing a little of the return
Speaker 5: depth of Bolden's injury tonight. And you know it's hard
Speaker 5: that the way those those roster spots are going to
Speaker 5: be tough to to predict.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, let's uh, let's move on here. We'll
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Speaker 3: It was in Houston, Colleen, thanks for your patients. Welcome
Speaker 3: into the Patriots postgame show.
Speaker 1: Hi Colleen, Colleen. Colleen already's off to a good start.
Speaker 1: This is not my fault. Colleen going once, Colleen going twice.
Speaker 1: Colleen is not there? All right? Oh that's not listen.
Speaker 1: That was a sound effect added by Matt Morrell. That
Speaker 1: was not me.
Speaker 3: Jake and Australia will be there. He's found that literally
Speaker 3: on the other side of the world, and he's there.
Speaker 1: Hijake.
Speaker 9: I thought I was bad to get hottie there we go.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 9: So unfortunate ending to the game. Yeah, yeah, yeah, unfortunate ending.
Speaker 9: But one thing I really didn't like was how Zap
Speaker 9: the sit Nixon up to fail. That that hurt to
Speaker 9: watch that party.
Speaker 1: Set Nixon up to fail. What do you mean just
Speaker 1: by putting the ball up and with a few guys
Speaker 1: I didn't take it.
Speaker 9: He was never a good option.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I don't think Paul all right,
Speaker 1: go ahead, But all right, Jake, hopefully have a point.
Speaker 5: I mean, I will say that, and I made the
Speaker 5: comment earlier. Zappy had no trouble throwing the ball into
Speaker 5: coverage time, But I don't think he set him up
Speaker 5: to get hit.
Speaker 1: There was a ball on the sideline. Yeah, I bet
Speaker 1: I wouldn't call that. I think that was unfortunate. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was just tangled up and landing came down on him.
Speaker 9: And then a boy Cunningham.
Speaker 5: There are three guys around him. Yeah, you know, Jake,
Speaker 5: I see your point a little bit more as I'm
Speaker 5: watching the replay. There are three guys right right around him,
Speaker 5: surrounding them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is triple coverage. Yeah, yeah, he did treat
Speaker 1: him like he was Calvin Johnson. There for a second.
Speaker 1: That's that's true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not necessary and probably not gonna this. This
Speaker 3: is the thing when you're watching Zappi in these games,
Speaker 3: You're you're watching a guy who is probably trying a
Speaker 3: little bit of everything to get something to click, get
Speaker 3: something to work, get something to pop, make the difference, right, because.
Speaker 5: What he looked like today. Yes, I'm not taking a checkout.
Speaker 5: I'm throwing it into coverage. Try what's that about the
Speaker 5: about the play to Booty?
Speaker 10: What now?
Speaker 8: So?
Speaker 9: Yeah, he does the one to Nixon and then all
Speaker 9: of a sudden, couple of plays later he throws an
Speaker 9: booty Yeah.
Speaker 1: Right, you know what? And Jake, thanks for the call, buddy,
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Uh Gooday? Was that was the booty play?
Speaker 3: The one that I remarked to you when we were
Speaker 3: watching the game, douce I said, that's the type of
Speaker 3: play if you're watching it from the other side. From
Speaker 3: the other side, I think it was earlier in the
Speaker 3: game actually, but there were there were a couple of plays,
Speaker 3: a couple of Patriots completions tonight. Why I say, you know,
Speaker 3: we look at that one like, all right, nicely done.
Speaker 3: When you flip the script and you watch it from
Speaker 3: a Packers perspective, all you see on that one is
Speaker 3: a blown coverage, just an absolute breakdown in who's supposed
Speaker 3: to beware And it's it's just it's instructive only in
Speaker 3: that you got to take these things, you know, as
Speaker 3: they as they truly are, and we're gonna we're gonna
Speaker 3: look at the bright side whenever we can, and we're
Speaker 3: going to try and you know, you know, find the
Speaker 3: you know, the positive outcome. But if it's the one
Speaker 3: I'm thinking of, I think it was like as much
Speaker 3: a breakdown and coverage as it was. And I can't
Speaker 3: remember if it was the it was the completion of
Speaker 3: Booty or not. It may have been at or earlier,
Speaker 3: much earlier playing the game when Mac Jones.
Speaker 5: Was still They definitely had trouble with the slants. Yes,
Speaker 5: they had trouble with them all night, and the ones
Speaker 5: that weren't complete were generally because the throw was off.
Speaker 1: That's not the that's not the ones the reference.
Speaker 3: No, that's just that that is just a dime and
Speaker 3: that's a great reception for.
Speaker 1: Me, But it is it is.
Speaker 5: It's a it's a it's an excellent throw and catch.
Speaker 5: But like yeah, that safety is way out of this safety.
Speaker 1: Is out of position. What do you what do you want?
Speaker 5: You know, reminded me of the Miami fourth bound play
Speaker 5: last year and opening Day to Jalen Waddle.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, yeah, I remember that gone right up
Speaker 1: the middle, yes, okay, yeah. Whereas it's it's a catch
Speaker 1: and it should be a catching a first down because
Speaker 1: safety can't. The offense executed the play properly, but it
Speaker 1: can't be a touchdown, right, it should stop there? Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a good that's a good callback from the steel trap.
Speaker 1: There's it's I know it's and that's what's so hard.
Speaker 4: It's like, you know, I think everybody you look at
Speaker 4: your team, you're like, all right, well were they in
Speaker 4: off coverage? And you know they were just in a
Speaker 4: little slant that's hard to defend.
Speaker 1: And but to Paul's point, the tackle, I would say
Speaker 1: the too with the bourn those are you know some
Speaker 1: RPO stuff too, which is you know, encouraging to see
Speaker 1: that that first born catch one. That's that one that
Speaker 1: was a look for a little week of that next week?
Speaker 1: How about Spi and Fresno, what's going on?
Speaker 11: Speed greeting gentlemen, agree with like every point. I thought
Speaker 11: Jake from State Farm Australia was right off the bat
Speaker 11: with a triple coverage.
Speaker 5: I thought it was triple coverage absolutely, yeah, But I
Speaker 5: don't think that had anything to do with the injury.
Speaker 5: Like I just know it wasn't a hospital ball, yeah right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably.
Speaker 11: I don't think it was a hospital ball either yet.
Speaker 1: But it was a bad decision by ZAPPI.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I thought, I'm trying to look on the bright
Speaker 11: side with Mac because I'm kind of maybe negatively biased
Speaker 11: against the guy, and maybe it's unfair he seemed to
Speaker 11: hit or miss like in the first quarter.
Speaker 1: I would agree with that.
Speaker 11: I think there was a pass downfield where Parker he
Speaker 11: missed Henry. I thought Henry was opened, yep.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he didn't throw it to Henry, right, he
Speaker 1: threw it to the outside. Yeah, Henry, is that the
Speaker 1: one space? Yeah, I agree with you. I agree with you.
Speaker 5: He missed him, and I thought he overthrew Parker. I
Speaker 5: thought he had a chance to make a play. Although
Speaker 5: why Parker could have made a better player on the ball.
Speaker 11: In that I wanted to to talk about the Parker
Speaker 11: thing because that's a that one was the case where
Speaker 11: Parker is just not fast enough. Like if if Parker's
Speaker 11: not a contested catch guy, but he's a little bit
Speaker 11: faster than that, that's a very catchable ball. But maybe
Speaker 11: it's just not the right receiver for that pass. But
Speaker 11: maybe that's the wrong way to look at it. I
Speaker 11: also I don't like that point. Yeah, I like. I
Speaker 11: like Pop Douglas for what he maybe can be for
Speaker 11: like his binky potential is high.
Speaker 1: Binky.
Speaker 11: I like Pop Douglas him being like without Jacoby Myers
Speaker 11: given given, giving Max something that's reliable in you know,
Speaker 11: short yardage situations that you know can make him more comfortable,
Speaker 11: give him a little security mink.
Speaker 3: You know what's I'm gonna use that if you don't mind,
Speaker 3: I'll give you credit whenever I can. But binky potential,
Speaker 3: that's good.
Speaker 6: I like it.
Speaker 1: Is that something that gets used a lot around here. See,
Speaker 1: I like this one on this one we're showing right here,
Speaker 1: which is like I mean, I just I mean, I
Speaker 1: know it went for two yards. It's nothing to write
Speaker 1: home about, but we must have shown this play sixty
Speaker 1: But just the fact that look the two guys stop boom.
Speaker 1: You know, that's just a little glimpse of what he
Speaker 1: can do. You know, he's just got good abillity. Turned
Speaker 1: that two yard loss into a two yard game. Man,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you I'm trying to make a point. I
Speaker 1: like the other play. I look quick, I can watch
Speaker 1: the other play. I can stop on a dime and
Speaker 1: make people miss that I don't see. I don't see
Speaker 1: the game as well as you guys see it. No,
Speaker 1: I did, don't.
Speaker 5: I did think it was that adjustment to the pass
Speaker 5: right there. I like this play, Okay, I like this adjustment.
Speaker 3: This one I can see, and this one I get
Speaker 3: the Douglas play we're watching beforehand, the two yard loss
Speaker 3: and did the two yard gain after we watched it
Speaker 3: three times on the broadcast, and I saw a lot
Speaker 3: of people and then I saw like nineteen people men
Speaker 3: on Twitter, someone else in the room. There's literally one
Speaker 3: guy there who over runs them. I'm like, maybe maybe
Speaker 3: I got maybe got blocked in the back on second.
Speaker 3: I don't see it to that extent.
Speaker 1: Well, this is this is what I would compare it
Speaker 1: to when a guy gets hit in the backfield and
Speaker 1: he still makes it back to the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1: You know, like all right, that's nothing great about it,
Speaker 1: like you are. But those are the little players that
Speaker 1: just shows some traits. But the difference is his quickness
Speaker 1: he can get. I'm not saying that that the play itself.
Speaker 1: I'm just showing the traits that he demonstrates there.
Speaker 5: They translate, I love your comp I love your comp
Speaker 5: The difference is no one talks about the guy who
Speaker 5: made the guy miss in the backfield to get back
Speaker 5: to the line of scrimmage ten minutes after the play.
Speaker 1: We're actually three hours after we've seen it. And I'm
Speaker 1: not making fun of you. We showed that play, did
Speaker 1: you numerous times? No, I didn't know. I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I thought I was alone of being like, well, he
Speaker 1: looked a little quick there at least, But no, I
Speaker 1: like Douglas. I liked that. Like I said, I really
Speaker 1: liked his adjustment on that first play. But it's just
Speaker 1: those two catches.
Speaker 6: Was that it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was a little disappointed that he didn't get
Speaker 5: more run. I wonder if they're trying to keep him
Speaker 5: under wraps, but I would think they need if you're
Speaker 5: gonna have banky potential, you need to get raps with them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you can earn trust, like on those kind
Speaker 4: of plays where it's you know, bang bang gotta sit
Speaker 4: down on his own.
Speaker 1: Yep. Oh, well we're not gonna break. We're not gonna
Speaker 1: talk about it anymore.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: That was when Andy joined us last week, but not
Speaker 1: this week, not this week. This would not be the
Speaker 1: show for Andy. Yeah. No, you just you.
Speaker 3: You've had tastes in the past of what it's like
Speaker 3: doing one of these shows with Andy Hart.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah. No, he's he's intense, but
Speaker 1: when he's on a lot, he's a lot four spokesman. Now,
Speaker 1: I guess yeah, apparently I've been trying to get him
Speaker 1: to slide me a case. How's that working out? Yeah,
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Speaker 3: The update from uh from the Patriots on Bolden. On
Speaker 3: Isaiah Bolden, who is the reason why the game was
Speaker 3: called with ten minutes twenty nine seconds left in the
Speaker 3: fourth quarter after he sustained an injury on the field,
Speaker 3: The team released a brief statement saying that he had
Speaker 3: feelings in all of his extremities and this is again
Speaker 3: these things are carefully worded. At the time, He's said
Speaker 3: feeling in all his extremities, but has been taken to
Speaker 3: a local hospital for further tests and observation. I don't
Speaker 3: mean to like read into this, you know too much,
Speaker 3: but the word butt in there has me thinking that's
Speaker 3: actually positive, Like, yeah, he was doing okay, but I
Speaker 3: still wanted to take him to the hospital, taking the hospital.
Speaker 3: So that is I'm taking that as positive right now,
Speaker 3: and that's the way it is. That's the important thing
Speaker 3: here tonight is we go through this Patriots postgame show
Speaker 3: and talking about the what we did see on the
Speaker 3: field there in Green Bay tonight. The final score is
Speaker 3: not really a final score because they didn't play the
Speaker 3: entire game, but it was twenty one to seventeen Patriots,
Speaker 3: so we'll continue.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got the over Oh jeez, I didn't even
Speaker 1: think about the freaking over unders. I think those get
Speaker 1: washed this week.
Speaker 5: You know, it wasn't a five and one for Paul
Speaker 5: Oh no, I don't think I know, four and two
Speaker 5: for Mike. I don't think we count any of three
Speaker 5: and three for well. I mean, who's to say the
Speaker 5: sack numbers wouldn't have gone that? You know, Okay, Well,
Speaker 5: that is true, that is true.
Speaker 1: Who's to say Malik Cunningham wouldn't have so actually have.
Speaker 5: If you want to change it, you go one on
Speaker 5: one the other way. Never mind, never mind, because you
Speaker 5: were the only one that got the snaps.
Speaker 4: Right now, that's right, Well, maybe I can can I
Speaker 4: throw this Gonzales play to the guys in the truck,
Speaker 4: see if they can pull it up.
Speaker 1: See if you're uh. I'm glad that you said that
Speaker 1: by a truck. I don't know that I'm gonna speak
Speaker 1: to Lingo that racket. There's no truck. Yeah, hey, we
Speaker 1: rack it, re rack it in the truck. I'll teach
Speaker 1: you now, they're just launch. I asked.
Speaker 5: I asked Mike about that play because I really didn't
Speaker 5: remember it. And now I feel like I'm being a
Speaker 5: little too hard on Gonzales because that play happened in
Speaker 5: the second quarter.
Speaker 1: Second quarter with so that's three forty six left. The
Speaker 1: play idea is eighteen eighty eight.
Speaker 4: And if you have that God, yeah, So I don't
Speaker 4: know if the guys can take it up third and nine,
Speaker 4: three forty play.
Speaker 1: I D, Well, that's on the Jesus the Jesus. I
Speaker 1: don't think they use that. I don't know this is
Speaker 1: p I D. I assume it said play I D.
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know maybe I D P I D.
Speaker 1: May that's play I D. Perhaps I don't know, i'd
Speaker 1: need to know. It's just a P I D quarter
Speaker 1: situation play description. It's the only one who is always
Speaker 1: using the Jesus. It's the word play I D see.
Speaker 1: All right, here we go. And then I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's going to get this one, and just okay, that's
Speaker 1: a good tackle.
Speaker 5: I don't remember that play, and I wondered, I asked
Speaker 5: deu So I was like, thanks, guys, By any chance
Speaker 5: was I talking at the time, Because if I'm actually
Speaker 5: doing one of one of my hits, I'm not always
Speaker 5: I can't look at the monitor if I'm on camera,
Speaker 5: and you know, God knows, why wouldn't you want me
Speaker 5: on camera?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got your Pierre strung End thing in too.
Speaker 1: I did. I did. Went a long way to Grandma's
Speaker 1: house on that one. I actually, I actually I got
Speaker 1: another question for you, Paul Out. Sometimes I'm talking and
Speaker 1: I just say, just stop Lane, Oh, I hate that.
Speaker 1: H Any thoughts on Kevin Harris tonight, I'm just curious
Speaker 1: what your pedestrian. Yeah, I thought there were a couple
Speaker 1: of plays that that he had that there was yards
Speaker 1: to be made that kind of runs hard, but he
Speaker 1: goes down quick. He had a lot of touches. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of touches. I mean I was looking at
Speaker 1: it one years and I thought it was a little
Speaker 1: better in the second half, but not much. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: seemed like you get a head of steam going and
Speaker 1: I thought he'd blast somebody, you know, run over somebody
Speaker 1: or and it just he couldn't seem to kind of this.
Speaker 5: Was the stretch where I thought he was he was okay, Well,
Speaker 5: he had the the he moved the chains on the
Speaker 5: third he moved it, but he moved the chance on
Speaker 5: a good three yard run. You know, he dragged a
Speaker 5: tackle there for an extra couple of years. But then
Speaker 5: there's one run coming.
Speaker 1: This is the one.
Speaker 5: There's more yards there for that play. I thought maybe
Speaker 5: even that one too, you know, And I just brought
Speaker 5: up the you know, the point during the broadcast that
Speaker 5: you know, it's kind of interested to see how he'd respond.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I probably felt like he had an opportunity, you know,
Speaker 5: like I would liked to have seen him, you know,
Speaker 5: I mean a little more productive.
Speaker 1: Watching this game. Yeah, he's a big guy, he's a
Speaker 1: thick guy, but there's just not a lot of pop
Speaker 1: really that that I'm seeing.
Speaker 3: But let's get to some of these emails here Weber Radio,
Speaker 3: Patriots dot com. Uh Todd and Garner said, very sad
Speaker 3: game outcome. One takeaway is that our line play is
Speaker 3: seriously icky on both sides of the ball. I know
Speaker 3: it's preseason, but I hope they find a way to
Speaker 3: shore it up. Felt that Bolden was coming on and
Speaker 3: I really hoping that he is okay for his and
Speaker 3: his family's sake.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's from Todd for sure.
Speaker 4: Nothing we haven't really seen, you know, I mean, and
Speaker 4: I mean I thought it was interesting that even yesterday
Speaker 4: Adrian Clem when he spoke, was like, we got to
Speaker 4: get we just haven't been able to have any continuity.
Speaker 4: We've been trying to like scramble and and get guys in,
Speaker 4: and you know, at a certain point there's just no
Speaker 4: more excuses. The season's going to start and you got
Speaker 4: to roll with what you have. But I think it's
Speaker 4: Paul kind of touched on in the pregame. You're just
Speaker 4: hoping you can get them when you and strange and
Speaker 4: just you know, at least get the guys that you
Speaker 4: wanted there in the middle for four fifths of it
Speaker 4: and then just figure it out at right tackle. I mean,
Speaker 4: I don't think that that's the worst position in the
Speaker 4: world to just try to have to figure it out at.
Speaker 4: But you saw today how quickly it can change a game,
Speaker 4: you know, with with blown all it takes one.
Speaker 1: It's a really good point because I thought offensively, they
Speaker 1: were probably feeling decent about themselves until that strip sack. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Prayers for Isaiah Bolden is from uh Daniel formally from
Speaker 3: Eugene uh he said on a football note though, Is
Speaker 3: it possible they're trying to.
Speaker 1: Do too much?
Speaker 3: With Malie Cunningham kick returner, inside and outside receiver, possible
Speaker 3: special teams gunner, potentially quarterback, alternate. How can a rookie
Speaker 3: handle such a large transition? Does it poply possibly take
Speaker 3: away from his effectiveness in any one singular role, even
Speaker 3: Taysom Hill and essentially a red shirt year for playing
Speaker 3: any role on the team in twenty seventeen?
Speaker 4: Well, what do we see him do tonight? Like it
Speaker 4: felt like tonight was we got to see if we
Speaker 4: can get him going as a receiver a little bit, right?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Can I I want to you guys can tell me,
Speaker 5: I might have to. Wasn't Taysom Hill initially a special
Speaker 5: teams guy?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 3: And I also don't know what Taysom Hill did in
Speaker 3: preseason games. Maybe they had him all over the place too.
Speaker 1: My pushback would be where Mike is going with this,
Speaker 1: Like I based on what I saw tonight, I would
Speaker 1: take quarterback and put it on the back burner a
Speaker 1: little bit. It looks like they're trying to make him
Speaker 1: a receiver slash special teams guy, and that's his road
Speaker 1: to the roster.
Speaker 3: I think it's good that they're trying him out in
Speaker 3: a few different places to see, Okay, where is he
Speaker 3: going to fit? Because we think he's you know, as
Speaker 3: as we know, Bill loves he's a football player.
Speaker 1: He can he can play the game.
Speaker 3: We're just not sure exactly where and how we can
Speaker 3: utilize him.
Speaker 1: So I just I mean, we've watched I don't know,
Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen practices. I haven't seen anything out of him
Speaker 1: as a receiver. I mean it's he looks nice when
Speaker 1: he you know, it does a little QB draw or
Speaker 1: read option or something and he's running.
Speaker 4: But you know he had the I mean, you know,
Speaker 4: everybody talks about the one handed booty catch, and then
Speaker 4: Andy came in here coming hot about what a terrible
Speaker 4: throw it was. So you know, I like, I understand
Speaker 4: why everyone wants the Cunningham thing to happen, and you know,
Speaker 4: to have maybe have that element and a new, exciting,
Speaker 4: dynamic guy to play with upfront.
Speaker 1: But I don't know what you saw tonight. He didn't
Speaker 1: look comfortable to me as a receiver. It looked a
Speaker 1: little bit kind of lost, And you know, yeah, I
Speaker 1: would agree.
Speaker 5: I just hope that they if they're going to keep him,
Speaker 5: I hope that they continue to try to develop as
Speaker 5: a quarterback.
Speaker 1: That's all.
Speaker 5: If they've decided, you know what, this is too much
Speaker 5: of a project, we don't have time for this, then
Speaker 5: I'm fine with that too. But if they're going to
Speaker 5: keep him around and they want him to do it,
Speaker 5: like I kind of agree with the the email, because
Speaker 5: if you're going to try to keep him around to
Speaker 5: be a special team or in a wide receiver, put
Speaker 5: him on the practice squad and let him develop and.
Speaker 1: Be a quarterback, right That's what we thought.
Speaker 5: Anyway, Now, you know, the pushback is that you don't
Speaker 5: think you can get him on the practice squad. If
Speaker 5: you don't you don't like I'm not I'm with you.
Speaker 5: I'm not efully interested in the slash player. If he
Speaker 5: could be a quarterback, I'm interested in that.
Speaker 1: If he can, I wouldn't really have too much worry
Speaker 1: about getting him onto the practice squad.
Speaker 3: Nathan Shower, PhD says, I, I know the topic of
Speaker 3: commercial breaks has come up on this show in the past.
Speaker 3: Is hardly aware that Fred has now decided that the
Speaker 3: breaks on Patriots Unfiltered are so long that he has
Speaker 3: met recording a whole second show to fill the time.
Speaker 3: I would love to hear hearty.
Speaker 5: So you know, I don't think Fred was overully interested
Speaker 5: in that. I think Fred was the last to know
Speaker 5: what are we doing?
Speaker 8: So what?
Speaker 3: I don't know what this is about.
Speaker 1: So on Thursday we debuted, Mike. You probably don't even
Speaker 1: know you were gone.
Speaker 5: We usually, as you like to make fun of us,
Speaker 5: Fred and I eat our lunch in the middle of
Speaker 5: Patriots Unfiltered during the week, which is we take about
Speaker 5: an eight minute break and Patriots.
Speaker 1: Well, how long is Patriots Unfiltered? Two hours? Two hours?
Speaker 1: So we take so it's an hour and fifty two minutes.
Speaker 3: And most people in America have a two hour work
Speaker 3: day and they take a lunch break in the middle
Speaker 3: of their work day.
Speaker 1: That is two hours long. So whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa.
Speaker 3: That's a two hour show we do in the middle
Speaker 3: of an eight hour work day. How about if you
Speaker 3: take your lunch on either side to that two hour show.
Speaker 5: Well, I'm not I'm not even watching at eleven thirty,
Speaker 5: and by the time two thirty rolls around, I'm not
Speaker 5: really all that interested. Well I can wait for dinner
Speaker 5: at that point, honestly, But anyway, you need to my
Speaker 5: uh So Fred decided. Fred decided that, well he didn't
Speaker 5: decide it. Other people decided that we needed to fill
Speaker 5: that break because we didn't want to run the commercials
Speaker 5: and repeat them.
Speaker 1: It's what we do. So Matisi hosted a little uh
Speaker 1: Matisse and Friends podcast with Dylan and Faith and they discussed.
Speaker 5: What was the topic, unpopular, unpopular, popular hot takes, and
Speaker 5: that was what filled the time. Just so you know,
Speaker 5: re racking the commercials was received better. Uh based on
Speaker 5: the Twitter following I did not like.
Speaker 2: I just want to say that everybody under thirty five
Speaker 2: actually enjoyed it and all you old people hated it.
Speaker 1: I didn't hear it, so don't tell me I didn't
Speaker 1: like it.
Speaker 2: People can play, oh, you offended me because we you
Speaker 2: talk crap about Facebook and I use Facebook.
Speaker 1: No one likes face face. Even people who do use
Speaker 1: Facebook don't like it.
Speaker 3: I am an old by your definition right there, and
Speaker 3: the idea of the show within the show, feeling that
Speaker 3: unbelievably long lunch break in the middle of a two
Speaker 3: hour show, and again, I get it. You must be
Speaker 3: famished after doing well.
Speaker 1: You know why I didn't have it right? What's that?
Speaker 1: You know why I didn't hear it on Thursday as
Speaker 1: you're eating because I was eating. You're too busy eating? Yes,
Speaker 1: I was both of them down Buffalo tender. What are they?
Speaker 3: That's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: It was just the first time to the why why
Speaker 1: do you get? Was this your idea? You get You're
Speaker 1: getting a little defensive over there. It actually was not
Speaker 1: my idea. But I enjoyed it. I don't have anything
Speaker 1: any anything critical to say about it. They don't like
Speaker 1: Star Wars upstairs, Oh, I don't like Star Wars. I'm
Speaker 1: not a big Star Wars guy. And even though I'm an.
Speaker 3: Old listen to Thursday's Patriots Unfiltered, just to listen to
Speaker 3: that show.
Speaker 1: And skip the first thing. I appreciate that hardy and
Speaker 1: the second some feedback on it is gonna start giving
Speaker 1: away Patriots Unfiltered shirts.
Speaker 10: Another reason to listen.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's gonna be fantastic.
Speaker 5: You know another reason Thursday You're gonna make him you know,
Speaker 5: actually issued them so they can get him.
Speaker 1: All around. Oh yeah, I heard that story.
Speaker 4: The the other reason to listen to Thursday show. It's
Speaker 4: gonna be I don't know if Fred's gonna be there,
Speaker 4: but I'm.
Speaker 1: Coming in hot off of a of a nighttime flight.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Fred's probably gonna have to leave, so it
Speaker 1: might be punchy Deuce hosting. And you know, usually I
Speaker 1: dropped some F bones on that. I'll try not to. Oh,
Speaker 1: you just drop F bonds all the time. But you
Speaker 1: don't even mean it. That's the that's the funny part
Speaker 1: about it. It's you know what I mean. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: when people when people ask a question that I either
Speaker 1: haven't thought really of an answer, or I don't know
Speaker 1: or I don't really care to, I just I give
Speaker 1: the F bomb sigh, Like you know, like Fudge, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I don't even realize him doing it. I didn't
Speaker 1: realize that. And he thinks when you say it directly
Speaker 1: into the mic, they might not hear it, right, right,
Speaker 1: But if but we would call we would call that
Speaker 1: a fleeting expletive.
Speaker 3: Right, it's you know, you're not saying You're not saying
Speaker 3: it gratuitously, you're not celebrating.
Speaker 5: That, like when I screamed I can't wait till week
Speaker 5: f N sixteen once that would that was.
Speaker 1: A crit You must have been ballistic on that one. Well,
Speaker 1: who do you think was on the show? Andy?
Speaker 5: Nope, No, who could get Who's the only person that
Speaker 5: could get me in that state? I don't want to
Speaker 5: say Brian Morey.
Speaker 1: Oh all right, those are the two. Those are the
Speaker 1: two drive Paul over the edge.
Speaker 3: All right, let's let's do this. Let's hear from Bill Belichick.
Speaker 3: Very short obviously, you know, when you consider what was
Speaker 3: going on at the end of the game. The game
Speaker 3: ended with ten twenty nine left due to the injury
Speaker 3: sustained by Isaiah Bolden. The team has released a statement.
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Speaker 1: Here's the head coach.
Speaker 7: All right, well, I don't think the last situation kind
Speaker 7: of you know, in the bigger picture of overrode the game.
Speaker 15: So I'll sign a prayer for Isaiah.
Speaker 7: And you know, well we just released a statement with that, right,
Speaker 7: so that's you know, only information that's updated information that
Speaker 7: we have. I appreciate the way of the league handle that.
Speaker 7: I think that was the right thing to do. And
Speaker 7: you know, also Santa prayer for some of our players
Speaker 7: with their close friends and relatives in Hawaii that are
Speaker 7: going through some.
Speaker 15: Stuff out there.
Speaker 7: So you know, that's really the bigger picture of it here,
Speaker 7: you know, kind of regroup and uh, you know, we'll
Speaker 7: talk about the game later, but that's it's kind of
Speaker 7: where things are for right now. So you know, competitive game,
Speaker 7: competitive week, good week against Green Bay, just you know,
Speaker 7: unfortunate what happened there at the end, hopefully say it'll
Speaker 7: be all right, and I'm sorry, that's really about all
Speaker 7: I got.
Speaker 1: Scary moment was that on the field? And what what
Speaker 1: led to the decision to just suspend the game?
Speaker 15: Yeah, that's the lad.
Speaker 1: Said, what were your conversations like a coach?
Speaker 15: Yeah, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 14: Something like this.
Speaker 1: Coach puts everything in perspective, doesn't it does.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we're all very fortunate, all very fortunate.
Speaker 1: Fortunate in your long career, obviously never experienced anything.
Speaker 15: Quite like this. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Bill, how good of a kid? Is bold and twenty
Speaker 1: three years old? How did Jackson state? Florida state? Obviously
Speaker 1: his family very concerned?
Speaker 15: Is luckers crossed him? Okay, all right, great, thank you, thanks.
Speaker 6: Thank you.
Speaker 3: All right, So there's a head coach obviously, Uh and
Speaker 3: he said, you know, just about the game.
Speaker 1: We'll get to that later.
Speaker 3: And uh, you know, he said, it was you know,
Speaker 3: good week with the with the joints, but uh, you know,
Speaker 3: and also you know, mentioned something that had been brought
Speaker 3: up a couple of times earlier this week. You know,
Speaker 3: players with their connections to uh what's going on in
Speaker 3: Maui and in Lahina, so he brought that up too,
Speaker 3: but he referenced the statement again from the team, which
Speaker 3: came out just a few more moments before he went
Speaker 3: to the podium, which said that Isaiah Bolden did have
Speaker 3: feeling in his extremities, and but he was being taken
Speaker 3: to a local hospital for more testing and for some
Speaker 3: more evaluations. So we'll take that as good news right now,
Speaker 3: but not a lot from the coach there.
Speaker 1: I don't know what else you know, you would have
Speaker 1: asked or you know, done to that circumstance. I guess maybe.
Speaker 3: Coach Belichack at that point was not going to talk
Speaker 3: any more about the injury.
Speaker 1: I don't think no, And I was, you know, obviously
Speaker 1: it was predictably.
Speaker 5: Somber right in brief, but I think he basically told
Speaker 5: you that, you know, the statement, that's all we really know. Yeah, So,
Speaker 5: I I mean, I think I would have felt comfortable
Speaker 5: if I were there to ask d listen. Obviously, you
Speaker 5: know Bolden's you know, held this first and foremost, but
Speaker 5: can you give your impressions of the game, you know,
Speaker 5: what of Mac Jones or whatever, like some superficial kind
Speaker 5: of team performance question. And then if he didn't want
Speaker 5: to ask answer it. And if he answered with something
Speaker 5: like I don't think this is the appropriate time. We'll
Speaker 5: get to that tomorrow because he does have a conference
Speaker 5: call slated for tomorrow, then you stop like to ask
Speaker 5: any questions about Bolden to me, doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 3: Right, And also again you're trying to you know, be
Speaker 3: mindful of the situation. And you know, the question was
Speaker 3: asked whether or not he had anything like this in
Speaker 3: his career. Bill talked about that kind of extensively last
Speaker 3: year after Demorrow Hamlin and he talked about some of
Speaker 3: the situations I think that he had encountered over the years.
Speaker 3: There was one on the field, I mean a very
Speaker 3: scary incident in the game against the Lions, which was
Speaker 3: I mean really tenuous.
Speaker 1: Now that was weird. I remember that one that Dennis
Speaker 1: Bird no no against us here. I remember the guy
Speaker 1: just collapsed.
Speaker 3: Yes, it was I mean, I myself. You know, we
Speaker 3: talk about wow, this is unprecedented, Like it's not unprecedented.
Speaker 3: It's something that happens, and no one is saying that
Speaker 3: they shouldn't have stopped the game with Deamar Hamlin or
Speaker 3: they shouldn't have stopped the game tonight but to act
Speaker 3: like it's the first time it's ever happened. No, you know, unfortunately,
Speaker 3: this is something that has happened. As a matter of
Speaker 3: fact before Damar Hamlin last year, it happened to here
Speaker 3: in Foxborough and the thing that I had never seen,
Speaker 3: And maybe this is more commonplace and we just don't
Speaker 3: see it because it's not televised. Somebody from the staff
Speaker 3: going over to the stands and getting a member of
Speaker 3: the of the player's family from the Lions, bringing them
Speaker 3: down out of the field, having them walk off the
Speaker 3: field with the ambulance and get into the ambulance and
Speaker 3: go with them to the hospital.
Speaker 1: I mean, to me, that is that's jaw dropping, and
Speaker 1: that's something that apparently does happen from time to time.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, if you're gonna ask Bill belichikovs you ever
Speaker 3: say anything like this in your career? To me, that is,
Speaker 3: Bill is well within his right to almost be a
Speaker 3: little a little annoyed at that, like, yeah, I have
Speaker 3: you have unless unless this is your first you know,
Speaker 3: season covering the NFL. Yes, unfortunately, this is something we've
Speaker 3: all seen.
Speaker 4: How much do you think the NFL's decision to end
Speaker 4: the game was kind of related to what happened to
Speaker 4: DeMar Hamlin, Like you know, like that fresh on the mind,
Speaker 4: Like I don't I don't ever remember a game being
Speaker 4: suspended after an injury like this.
Speaker 1: I just wonder if that was you know, like the
Speaker 1: president was set now it was easier to do that. Well,
Speaker 1: not not even necessarily the precedent of just I guess
Speaker 1: my thought was that it's just so fresh on everybody's
Speaker 1: mind that this is kind of you know, retriggering all
Speaker 1: those memories, and it's like we're in a preseason game
Speaker 1: right now, you know, And I just wonder if that
Speaker 1: if that came into account. Of course, it's a preseason game,
Speaker 1: and nobody cares, I.
Speaker 5: Think, and I have seen pre season games halted, but
Speaker 5: not for jury like lightning. Yeah, like you know, whether
Speaker 5: whether related.
Speaker 3: No, But I think, look, we're talking about it only
Speaker 3: in that we all agree that that was the right
Speaker 3: thing to do tonight. Anybody disagrees with that, not at all.
Speaker 3: If this were a regular season game, what would they
Speaker 3: have done.
Speaker 1: I think they would have kept playing.
Speaker 3: I think that I think they probably would have taken
Speaker 3: as much time as they needed to to get a
Speaker 3: you know, a real update on his status and find
Speaker 3: out what was going on, and I think they probably
Speaker 3: would have continued playing the game.
Speaker 1: That's I mean, if you remember the hand one situation
Speaker 1: was like over a half hour on the field and
Speaker 1: everyone it was like an hour like not to say
Speaker 1: that this was this is I don't harm.
Speaker 5: Hopefully this ends you know, obvious sleep without saying, you know,
Speaker 5: with a good story, a happy ending. But the ham
Speaker 5: One thing to me was far different in terms of
Speaker 5: the uncertainty as to what exactly was going on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean I would say just the look
Speaker 4: on the players faces that you know, that to me
Speaker 4: did was a little bit reminiscent of that. And I
Speaker 4: think that's, you know, kind of where I went of
Speaker 4: how how do they play a game when the memories
Speaker 4: of that is still so fresh.
Speaker 3: Last year it was October ninth. The Lions player was
Speaker 3: Savion Smith and he was on the ground.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember you're talking about what the family is.
Speaker 3: I remember the family coming out of the field, ambulance
Speaker 3: out on the field, not carted off on any kind
Speaker 3: of a you know, team equipment. I mean, that was
Speaker 3: that was as serious as something that I've witnessed in person.
Speaker 3: And they continued that game, So I think, yeah, I
Speaker 3: think a regular season game they probably would have continued tonight.
Speaker 3: I think a couple of things coming to play. One
Speaker 3: of them absolutely tomorrow, Hamlin still very fresh. Number two,
Speaker 3: it's a preseason game, so we don't have to finish
Speaker 3: this thing. And number three, I think it probably starts
Speaker 3: to factor in. Do we didn't want anyone else to
Speaker 3: get hurt, even if it's a groin, even if it's
Speaker 3: a hamstring.
Speaker 1: We're playing preseason here. Can we just stop this now? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know you just had two I mean two hour
Speaker 1: and well, how long was it? Two hours? Two hours
Speaker 1: and twenty seven twenty seven minutes? And that was a
Speaker 1: long game? Tight, you know, I mean you've had so
Speaker 1: much work. It's like, you know, what more do you need?
Speaker 4: But of course the regular season game, the Packers like, hey,
Speaker 4: we're driving here to tie the game, you know, like
Speaker 4: we can't end it right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: We also have Mac Jones and his postgame press conference,
Speaker 3: and as I understand, had some very interesting things to
Speaker 3: say about Matthew Slater, who played a part in that.
Speaker 3: We saw, you know, the conference taking place on the
Speaker 3: sideline while Bolden was being attended to with Bill Belichick
Speaker 3: and one of the officials, and so Mac has asked
Speaker 3: about that and other things.
Speaker 1: So let's listen to the quarterback.
Speaker 6: How's a team doing?
Speaker 1: How are you doing?
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're doing all right. I think that was definitely
Speaker 6: tough to see, you know, Zay go down like that,
Speaker 6: and just hard to kind of like realize the whole situation,
Speaker 6: you know, and we're all together, and think Slater did
Speaker 6: a great job explaining it to the team, just how
Speaker 6: you know, you can't take anything for granted. Just want
Speaker 6: to be there for one another, want to be there
Speaker 6: for him, his family. I've known him since high school.
Speaker 6: We played seven on seven football together, so definitely one
Speaker 6: of my brothers. But sounds like he's doing a lot better,
Speaker 6: you know, from what they're telling us. So that's awesome.
Speaker 1: Can you tell people what type of player and what
Speaker 1: type of person isaiahs?
Speaker 6: Yeah? I think, like I said, I'm very fortunate to
Speaker 6: play with them in seven on seven football when I
Speaker 6: was you know, a high schooler, just a young guy,
Speaker 6: and he's just a physical, tough football player. And just
Speaker 6: hope that he's okay. I know he's gonna do whatever
Speaker 6: he can to be back and he's d He's done
Speaker 6: a great job, you know, coming in this year and
Speaker 6: just trying to play you know, really tough defense, and
Speaker 6: he he's done a great job. And yeah, just tough.
Speaker 6: Knowing that I've known him for so long and knowing
Speaker 6: that he's just this ultimate competitor.
Speaker 5: Does it seem as if the league, you know, kind
Speaker 5: of shows that it's developing a heightened awareness to know
Speaker 5: the emotions that you guys in.
Speaker 6: These games, And then yeah, yeah, I think I think
Speaker 6: it's probably the right move to do that. And just
Speaker 6: everything revolves around him, him and how his family's doing
Speaker 6: and and all that stuff. So definitely feel like we
Speaker 6: weren't in a good headspace. Nobody was on either side
Speaker 6: of the ball, so you know, obviously that's above all
Speaker 6: of our pay grade. But we did decide, and Slater
Speaker 6: and coach and everybody just and the other team just
Speaker 6: thought it was probably better just to you know, hang
Speaker 6: it up for the night and and just try and
Speaker 6: you know, come together really as a team and and
Speaker 6: and really just think about him and his family. This
Speaker 6: tream he has to go to Nashville. What do you
Speaker 6: saying you have to go to Nashville?
Speaker 10: Yeah, how do you as a quarterback.
Speaker 1: Keep everybody up.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think hopefully it'll just continue to be positive
Speaker 6: with the updates that we get and honestly just continue
Speaker 6: to come together as a team. I think we've done
Speaker 6: that this week during the practices and I feel like
Speaker 6: there was a little little bit of camaraderie and things
Speaker 6: like that, and I think that we just need to
Speaker 6: try to carry that over and let these tough times
Speaker 6: just keep building us up and obviously hope that Zay's
Speaker 6: okay and we get positive updates and just trying to
Speaker 6: keep plug along as best we can, but definitely tough.
Speaker 10: After all of it happened, both team and decisions made.
Speaker 10: Everyone kind of came together at the end.
Speaker 1: Both teams can usually what that was like.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's important just as people, right, uh,
Speaker 6: beyond the game of football, just understand that we all
Speaker 6: love each other and uh, we're out here doing something
Speaker 6: that lots of people would love to do, you know,
Speaker 6: and to see somebody, you know, especially your teammate and
Speaker 6: friend on the ground and I'm just not doing well.
Speaker 6: It's it's hard, right, but I think I think everybody
Speaker 6: on that field realize that this game is is very
Speaker 6: big but there's other things that are also very important,
Speaker 6: and that's the game of life. And I think both teams,
Speaker 6: you know, realize that, and I don't think either of
Speaker 6: us are gonna take anything for granted.
Speaker 4: That usually said that he's never been more proud of
Speaker 4: his coach ship ever decided that to save that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, chop on that too.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I think coach Belichick just really did a good job
Speaker 6: there talking with Slater and the leadership of our team
Speaker 6: and obviously handled the situation. And him and Slater did
Speaker 6: a great job in the locker room just talking to
Speaker 6: the team, and like he always does, he's a great
Speaker 6: He tries to bring us together, you know, and it's
Speaker 6: all real emotion, and we really appreciate him and and
Speaker 6: Slater and all those those leaders on our team that
Speaker 6: can just kind of bring us together during a tough time.
Speaker 6: So I thought that was smart.
Speaker 1: How does it affect you and how scary is that
Speaker 1: when you see the stretcher come out.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's tough, right, It's It's not something
Speaker 6: you wanna see every day, But all you can do
Speaker 6: is just pray and hope that you know whoever's hurt
Speaker 6: and the situations they that everything's okay, and you think
Speaker 6: about For me, I think about my family, right, some
Speaker 6: guys think about their kids or or whatnot, and that's
Speaker 6: a tough thing. So definitely just try to pray and
Speaker 6: and realize that, you know, freak accidents happen. But it's
Speaker 6: tough to sit there and just act like everything's okay too,
Speaker 6: you know. So I'm definitely we're gonna continue to pray.
Speaker 6: And that's what we did on the field with Slater too.
Speaker 6: I thought that was was great to do that and
Speaker 6: come together and just pray.
Speaker 1: Comfortable fielding specially A football question for you.
Speaker 6: That I'll probably pass in the football, Yeah, I think
Speaker 6: it's probably, but yeah, we we definitely, uh just wanna
Speaker 6: pray for him and his family. And I do appreciate
Speaker 6: you asking, but we'll we'll save it for next Thanks
Speaker 6: appreciate it, okay.
Speaker 3: And and I mean the Patriots are in no mood
Speaker 3: to talk about the game. They probably they probably at
Speaker 3: some level, not that they you don't have anything to
Speaker 3: be ashamed of or embarrassed, but it is also this
Speaker 3: work in progress when you're in preseason and I know
Speaker 3: that the reporters they are doing their jobs, and well,
Speaker 3: you know, wanted to ask questions about you know, execution
Speaker 3: and plays. You know, I have to constantly remind myself
Speaker 3: that these guys are treating these games as some version
Speaker 3: of a very high level practice and and to sit
Speaker 3: there and have to answer questions about what is essentially,
Speaker 3: you know, an exhibition of sorts. I know we're not
Speaker 3: supposed to use that word. I know that you know,
Speaker 3: there's well, the NFL doesn't like you to use it,
Speaker 3: you know, the team doesn't like you to use it.
Speaker 3: But it's it's probably my numbing for them to have
Speaker 3: to answer questions like, you know, what were you thinking
Speaker 3: on that play? And it's like, I was thinking about
Speaker 3: a bunch of stuff that we're working on right now.
Speaker 3: I wasn't thinking about executing so that we could get
Speaker 3: the w It's just it's a whole different mindset for
Speaker 3: these guys in these games, and we do we look
Speaker 3: at them as games. We're like, the game's on tonight,
Speaker 3: it's not really a game. So for Belichick or mac
Speaker 3: Jones or anyone else to not have to answer questions
Speaker 3: about the game, it's probably a relief to them because
Speaker 3: they know it's not really a game.
Speaker 1: You're you're probably right.
Speaker 5: I had made the comment that I just feel like
Speaker 5: asking eight or nine questions about Isaiah Bolden to me
Speaker 5: is counterproductive. I would, I would, I would let these guys,
Speaker 5: Let them get with their team, Let them get you
Speaker 5: know that. Yeah, you know you come out, what do
Speaker 5: you what do you need their comments for? Like there's
Speaker 5: more important things to worry about.
Speaker 3: Yes, well, let us use that as a as a basis,
Speaker 3: as a baseline. Number one, the only thing to take
Speaker 3: away from this game is hopefully for you know, more
Speaker 3: good news on Isaiah Bolden, just in addition to the
Speaker 3: these you know, his feeling is an extremities and they're
Speaker 3: taking him a hospital as what what feels like testing
Speaker 3: or maybe at best just precaution. So that is our
Speaker 3: baseline other takeaways from the game as we wrap things
Speaker 3: up here on the post game show, you.
Speaker 4: Know, I think just some of the issues that have
Speaker 4: been consistent in the summer offensive line, you know, continue
Speaker 4: to pop up. But you know, I think still some
Speaker 4: rays of optimism for the offense overall, and you know,
Speaker 4: some some you know issues up front with the defense.
Speaker 4: But you know, they're veteran groups, so I got to
Speaker 4: think that they'll that they'll pull that stuff together, you know.
Speaker 4: So overall, I think that there were some strides, certainly
Speaker 4: some positions to look at, but you know, overall, I
Speaker 4: think it'll be good to get another week in Tennessee,
Speaker 4: face another physical football team, and I think they need it.
Speaker 5: Paul, Yeah, I would echo a lot of what Mike said.
Speaker 5: I thought there were some some flashes of optimism tonight. Offensively,
Speaker 5: probably not enough, but you know, I think that there
Speaker 5: were some things that you know, Kendrick Bourne, Tomorrio, Douglas
Speaker 5: mac Jones, you could see why they had some success
Speaker 5: on Thursday with some of the things that they did tonight.
Speaker 5: Now let's you know, can you build off of that?
Speaker 5: Can you stack it together and have a good week
Speaker 5: in Tennessee. And I'd like to see that, maybe have
Speaker 5: two good practices with Tennessee as opposed to one, you know,
Speaker 5: you know, one really good day. So that's what I'm
Speaker 5: looking for in Nashville next week.
Speaker 4: I'd just say one more thing, Hardy is you know,
Speaker 4: as Paul mentioned, Bill's gonna speak tomorrow, I think at
Speaker 4: like two or three o'clock in the afternoon. So I mean,
Speaker 4: you know, just my hope is that by that point,
Speaker 4: We've got some good news on Bolden's status, and Bill's
Speaker 4: able to then maybe comment on the football game tonight
Speaker 4: and we can get back to football.
Speaker 1: Hopefully maybe tomorrow.
Speaker 5: So just reading between the lines, it says, I think
Speaker 5: it's two o'clock Central, so it'll be three o'clock our time,
Speaker 5: which to me would indicate that the plan was already
Speaker 5: to stay in Green Bay tonight, so they're gonna be
Speaker 5: flying out to Nashville in the morning.
Speaker 1: So that's my guess.
Speaker 5: Is that press conference, that conference call being that late
Speaker 5: would indicate once they get to Nashville, right, because that's
Speaker 5: still Central time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, Christ.
Speaker 5: If that doesn't change, that's a good thing. Yes, you know,
Speaker 5: in terms of Isaiah Bolden, if you don't see any
Speaker 5: updates with that, then that means they're they're going to
Speaker 5: be leaving as normal, and I think that's a good sign.
Speaker 3: All right, So continued prayers and well wishes for Isaiah
Speaker 3: Bolden as we put a ball on this preseason game
Speaker 3: number two. The game was shortened and with ten twenty
Speaker 3: nine left in the game, the score was Packers seventeen,
Speaker 3: Patriots twenty one.
Speaker 1: That's for your point, that's right. At you poor to me,
Speaker 1: I do, I do.
Speaker 3: Thank you everybody for being a part of the pre
Speaker 3: and the postgame show. We will talk to you on
Speaker 3: Friday for the third and final preseason game.
Speaker 1: We'll speak with you then.
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