1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Dakota and this is Angie, your favorite 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Okay Storytime hosts, and we've got some great stories coming up. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 2: But before then, we have a quick two minute break 4 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: from the sponsors to keep the show alive. My friend 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 2: wouldn't stop cooking for everyone, and it's horrible. 6 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: Nobody wants to tell her that she's bad at cooking. 7 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 2: About six months ago, I thirty female, moved across the 8 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 2: country to a new state where I have a lot 9 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 2: of friends and family. I posted about my move on Facebook, 10 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: and Michael thirty two male, a Facebook friend which an 11 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 2: acquaintance I had met once or twice through other friends, 12 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 2: reached out to tell me he happened to be moving 13 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 2: to the same city. By the way, this comes from 14 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 2: usual a throwaway, a bunch of numbers, blah blah blah blah. 15 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 2: And if you want to submit your own stories, go 16 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: to the our slash showcase Storytime severed it. I'm Dakota, 17 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 2: I'm Angie, I'm Riley, and we're here to give you 18 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 2: good advice. Goofully, But we don't know everything. I really 19 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 2: know what we would do, So tell us what you 20 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: would do In the comments, he asked if I would 21 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: want to get together sometime. I agreed, and after we 22 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: had both moved and settled, we met up. We became 23 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: friendly and started hanging out semi regularly. I have a 24 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: lot of friends and family in this state. As I mentioned, 25 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: work also keeps me very busy, so I don't have 26 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 2: a ton of free time. Michael moved here because he 27 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 2: recently got a divis. He has an old friend in 28 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 2: his thirties male who owns a house here, who agreed 29 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 2: to rent him a room. They also have a third roommate, 30 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 2: also in his thirties. Michael does not have a job, 31 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: so he has a lot of free time, and he 32 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: is usually the one to initiate hangouts. So Michael loves 33 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: to cook. The very first time we got together, he 34 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: came to my place and cooked dinner. The meal was okay, 35 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: although it was dairy based and I really don't eat 36 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 2: dairy at all, so I felt pretty sick afterwards. I 37 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: was also very specific about a certain ingredient that I 38 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 2: don't really like, but he was insistent that he needed 39 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 2: to use it for the dish. Whatever, no biggie. However, 40 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: as time went on, every time Michael would invite me 41 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 2: to hang out, he wanted to cook. Either he wanted 42 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 2: to come to my place and cook, or he wanted 43 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 2: me to come over and he would cook for me 44 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: and the roommates and their significant others. Each time I 45 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 2: ate Michael's cooking, began to think more and more that 46 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: I really just could not stand it. The first time 47 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 2: he cooked for me in his roommates, I noticed that 48 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 2: everyone at the table was silent when eating, and no 49 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: one else commented on the food until he would eagerly 50 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 2: ask how is it and get some sort of lackluster praise. 51 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 2: He did this at least three times during the meal. 52 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: The worst time probably was the time no one could 53 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 2: finish their plate, and everyone made excuses for why they 54 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 2: were just so full they couldn't finish the meal. After 55 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 2: that incident, whenever Michael would invite me to hang out, 56 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: I would try suggesting other activities. We live in a 57 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: place that is full of fun socially distanced outdoor activities, 58 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 2: so I would frequently suggest those things. He would always 59 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 2: decline and try to convince me to come to his 60 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 2: place so that he could cook for us. He's told 61 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 2: me that the thing that brings him the greatest joy 62 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 2: is cooking for other people. Due to this, I kind 63 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 2: of started to distance myself and just politely decline his invitations. 64 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 2: Last night, I got a message from Michael that he 65 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: had a huge falling out with his roommate and he 66 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 2: was very upset. I texted him for a while, trying 67 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: to calm him down and give him some advice about 68 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: how to handle the situation. He was so upset that 69 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 2: eventually I asked if he wanted to come over for 70 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 2: a little bruski so he could get out of the 71 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: house and clear his head. He asked if I had 72 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: already eaten, and I said that I had. It was 73 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 2: almost eight by that point, and he asked if he 74 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 2: could come over tomorrow, which is today instead. I said sure. 75 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 2: He replied with great, I'll stop at the store and 76 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 2: cook a dish for us. I told him, actually, I'm 77 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: on a diet and I couldn't eat that, but he 78 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 2: was welcome to come over out for drinks and some 79 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 2: video games. He just kept pushing, asking about my diet 80 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: and what I could eat, and finally suggested something that 81 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: I would have no reason to say no to. This morning, 82 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 2: when I woke up, I was so dreading his meal 83 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 2: that I texted him I forgot I had made plans 84 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 2: this evening. I told him I'd be home around eight, 85 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 2: which is too late for dinner, and he was still 86 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: welcome to come over then, or we could try for 87 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: another night. I don't really know what to do about 88 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 2: this guy. I feel bad because he hardly knows anyone here, 89 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 2: and now it looks like he's on bad terms with 90 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: his roommates, and I know he probably really needs a 91 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 2: friend right now. He's so insistent on feeding me every 92 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: single time we get together. I think if I tell 93 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 2: him I can't stand his cooking, it will honestly be 94 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: more hurtful than just fading out of his life. After 95 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: posting and thinking about things, I realized that it wasn't 96 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 2: just about the cooking. Ooh. I didn't want to hurt 97 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 2: his feelings, but I really don't care to be friends 98 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 2: with Michael anymore. He never wanted to do anything I suggested, 99 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 2: and that really bothered me. Felt like our entire friendship 100 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: was just about me making time to do what he enjoyed, 101 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: which was cooking for us, even though I got nothing 102 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: out of it at all. After that, I started to 103 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: distance myself from Michael. I would put hours between answering 104 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 2: his text and politely decline any invites. I was also 105 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 2: in an accident a few weeks ago, and I'm now 106 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 2: on a medication that makes me very tired, so I 107 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: have limited free time. Then one night, around midnight, I 108 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 2: got a text from Michael saying that he was worried 109 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 2: about me. When I asked why, he replied that you 110 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: used to be my best friend, but now you just 111 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 2: ignore me. 112 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: That's a red flag and a friend I would say. 113 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 2: That physically hurt to read out loud. I'm oh, peace, mom, 114 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 2: oh peace disappeared. No one knows where they are and 115 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 2: we'll probably never find them. Please don't text this number 116 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 2: every again. Right, there were a bunch of typos, so 117 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 2: I could tell he had been drinking. I told him 118 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: I had been busy, and also pointed out that I 119 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 2: had actually invited him to do a lot of things 120 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 2: with me, but he always turned down my invites. He 121 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 2: acknowledged that was true, apologized, and said that in the future, 122 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 2: if I asked him to do things I enjoy, he'd 123 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 2: be sure to accept. Three days later, he messaged me again, 124 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 2: asking when I was free to hang out. I replied with, 125 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 2: what do you have in mind. I wanted to hear 126 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 2: what he wanted to do before committing to hanging out. 127 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 2: He kept pushing, just saying he'd like to see me 128 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 2: and he'd be available anytime I was free. I finally 129 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,239 Speaker 2: gave him a time frame, to which he replied he'd 130 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 2: love to come over and cook for us. So that 131 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 2: was just the final straw. So I sent him the 132 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 2: following message, Hey, So, to be honest, you're a nice person, 133 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 2: but I'm not interested in hanging out tonight or at all. 134 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: The time that we have spent together has made me 135 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 2: realize we don't actually have much in common. And when 136 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 2: you weren't into any of the stuff I enjoy doing, 137 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: I lost interest in the friendship. Combined with the fact 138 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: that I still have so much pain for my accident, 139 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: it just seems like too much effort, no hard feelings. 140 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 2: I really do wish you the best, and I blocked 141 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 2: him after that. Wow, it was just a cooking. No 142 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 2: advice yourself, it was just a cooking. Now I see 143 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 2: this as totally fair. I think you're blocking him just 144 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 2: for your own peace of mind, because you don't want 145 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: to like there's no argument here. You're like, I'm done. 146 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: I just don't feel like there's any real reason to 147 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 2: connect or be friends because we're just not really aligned. 148 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: And also I have an injury and I'm not really 149 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 2: I don't even have the bandwidth to make or develop 150 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 2: or maintain a friendship with someone like you. Maybe it 151 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 2: was bad the way I handled the situation, but life 152 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 2: feels too short to waste so much time doing what 153 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 2: other people want. I never advocate for myself and always 154 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 2: end up in these types of draining, one sided friendships. 155 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 2: So I feel proud of what I said and relieved 156 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 2: to be moving past the situation. At it there are 157 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 2: a lot of people defending Michael and calling me a 158 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 2: horrible person. In my last post, I mentioned that he 159 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 2: had a falling out with his roommates. They actually asked 160 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 2: him to move out because he was being so disrespectful 161 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 2: and aloof. I didn't include this information in my post 162 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 2: because I didn't want to be unfairly harsh. Now I 163 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 2: see the way I describe Michael made people sympathize with him, 164 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,559 Speaker 2: and that's honestly given me more food for thought than anything. 165 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 2: I couldn't even describe how awful he was to a 166 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 2: bunch of Internet strangers without feeling bad. A lot of 167 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 2: people are also just making blind assumptions about him, and 168 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 2: every single one is so far from reality. I guess 169 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: we should all take Reddit posts with a grain of salt. 170 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 2: And we've got some comments here. You're a chica, says, 171 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 2: I totally understand why this happened. Unfortunately, Michael probably thinks 172 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 2: he's trying hard to be social and puts effort into 173 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: his friendships, so he just can't understand why he doesn't 174 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: get the same effort back. He's probably lonely, and you 175 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 2: can find a lot of lonely people complaining about this. 176 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 2: But he's awkward and has a hard time reading or 177 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 2: understanding your cues or I dare say, caring about your 178 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 2: cues and messages about what you do and don't want 179 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 2: to do. It's hard to be friends with someone like that, 180 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 2: and to be honest, Michael probably doesn't have a lot 181 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 2: of friends. Op replies very insightful. I mentioned at the 182 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: end of my post that I end up in a 183 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 2: lot of friendships like this. I have sympathy for people 184 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 2: like this, and I usually endure the friendship because I 185 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 2: feel for them. But honestly, I think I'm at a 186 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: point in my life where I'm just over being that 187 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: nice person. Friendship needs to go both ways, and I'm 188 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 2: tired of giving so much time to people who I 189 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: get no enjoyment from being with. Recycled Air says I 190 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 2: wanted to hear what he wanted to do before committing 191 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: to hanging out. He kept pushing, just saying he'd like 192 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 2: to see me and he'd be available anytime I was free. 193 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 2: As Commander says, he was trying to act on your 194 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 2: previous feedback and wanted you to suggest something you wanted 195 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: to do before he suggested anything. You forced his hand 196 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 2: by pushing him to suggest something and blew up at 197 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 2: him when he offered the one thing he thought he 198 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 2: was good at that would help you out, which you've 199 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 2: never once told him you didn't enjoy, but continue to do. 200 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 2: I will back you up on that last point of 201 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 2: like you did always say that his cooking was good, 202 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 2: so why would he think that it would be bad anyway? 203 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true if you really don't want him to 204 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: cook for you. 205 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, i'd be like, Michael, you're bad at cooking. You're cooking. 206 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 2: I don't like it, right, I'm sorry it's gotten to 207 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 2: this point that I had to say that to you. Yeah, 208 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 2: I don't like your cooking, Michael, but there's ways to improve. 209 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,599 Speaker 1: It's all right, yeah, Michael. 210 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 2: Ohp replies, I didn't want to put seemingly unnecessary detail 211 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 2: in my post. I have invited Michael to go hiking 212 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 2: at least four times. I have also invited him to 213 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 2: go ice skating, snow tubing, skiing, driving in the mountains, 214 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 2: and even on a weekend trip to a nearby States 215 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 2: declined every single invite, instead asking me to come over 216 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 2: and try his cooking or watch TV. Edit to add 217 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 2: I even offered to pay for him on the activities 218 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 2: that were expensive, even though he doesn't need me to, 219 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 2: as an incentive to get him to join Accomplished Bison replies, 220 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 2: those are all super physical activities, and he sounds like 221 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 2: more of a homebody if he likes cooking and watching TV. 222 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 2: I agree you probably weren't compatible as friends, But ghosting him, 223 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 2: re engaging with him, and then about facing and sending 224 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 2: a Dear John all sounds a bit much. Tattletale ninety 225 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 2: one says, I mean, I like to cook, but I 226 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 2: am I am good at it and watch TV, and 227 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 2: I would never want to do any of those activities, 228 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 2: not even if someone else paid, not even if someone 229 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 2: paid me to do it. Will you sound boring? But 230 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 2: I know this, and I avoid having a good friend's 231 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 2: status with anyone because I don't want to socialize the 232 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 2: way other people do. I've pretty much done the same 233 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 2: thing before with a friend, send her messages telling her 234 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 2: that while I liked her, I didn't really enjoy when 235 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 2: we hung out and didn't want to anymore. It sounds 236 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 2: like a breakup, and in a way, I guess it is. Hope, 237 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 2: He replies, Yeah, I'm getting a lot of hate for it, 238 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 2: but I just don't see why I should continue to 239 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 2: be friends with someone I don't like hanging out with. 240 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 2: We don't enjoy doing the same things. I tried to 241 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 2: drift away slowly and we wouldn't have it, though I 242 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 2: had to treat it like a breakup. Lenny w Tef says, 243 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 2: you don't have to continue hanging out with anyone you 244 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 2: don't want to, and you can break off a friendship 245 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 2: whenever you like. Nobody is telling you to continue being 246 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 2: friends with him, just don't be a wiener and actually 247 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 2: tell the guy instead of him thinking you were great 248 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 2: friends and you're blocking him out of the blue. Total 249 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 2: wiener move. Tell the guy sorry, I don't like your 250 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 2: cooking at all and want to do other activities. Had 251 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: a few friends just ghost me like this and do 252 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 2: this day? I have no idea why I thought they 253 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 2: were really good friends. Did you not read the part 254 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 2: where she sent a message explaining all of that. 255 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, she blocked afterwards, but like she did give an explanation. 256 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: This is very annoying. All those comments were really annoying me. 257 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 2: Update. I got a lot of hate on my last 258 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 2: post here, and at first I couldn't really understand why. 259 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 2: One person who continued to comment angrily was user named 260 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 2: recycled Air. So I actually ended up messaging him privately 261 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 2: to ask why he thought I was such a villain. 262 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 2: It turned out to be a really productive conversation, Okay. 263 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 2: I gave him some more details about the situation and 264 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 2: really ended up realizing that the issue was deeper than 265 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 2: I made it out to be. I had left some 266 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 2: details out of my original post thinking that they were 267 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 2: not necessarily relevant, only to realize that they were the 268 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 2: true root of the problem. Thanks to recycled Air for 269 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 2: letting me get stuff off my chest and encouraging me 270 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 2: to make another post, so I will provide those details, 271 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 2: and surprisingly, even to me, new events have occurred and 272 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 2: I will share those as well. When Michael and I 273 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 2: first moved to the state we live in, we were 274 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 2: both romantically interested in one another. Well that's well, that's why. 275 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,599 Speaker 2: That's a little bit of something right there. How do 276 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 2: we miss that, that's a whole lot of something right away. 277 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 2: We had been online friends for a while, having only 278 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 2: met once briefly in real life, and I think we 279 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 2: expected more to develop between us when we moved to 280 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 2: the same city. I did not mention this at all 281 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 2: in my post, because after spending some time together, I 282 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 2: realized I didn't feel that way toward him anymore. I 283 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 2: told him that upfront, and we agreed to continue to 284 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 2: be friends. Initially, one of the biggest reasons that we 285 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 2: connected was over our shared love of outdoor activity. So 286 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 2: for everyone guessing that Michael was unable to or disinterested 287 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 2: in that hike and the trips I planned, that just 288 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 2: wasn't true. Michael is very physically fit and early on 289 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 2: expressed a huge interest in these activities. However, when he 290 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 2: wanted to hang out, he always wanted to hang out 291 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 2: at one of our houses, and almost always this led 292 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 2: to us being in situations where he would want to 293 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 2: lay on the couch and gradually lead into trying to 294 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 2: puddle with me. So while I disliked his cooking, I 295 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 2: guess that really I just felt like he was never 296 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 2: respectful of the boundary that I set when I told 297 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 2: him I only wanted to be friends. 298 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: I see, see, when you're hiking, you're not staying in 299 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: close quarters, so he could try to make a move 300 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: on you. 301 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 2: So you're gonna tell me this whole time that after 302 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 2: you were like, let's just be friends, and then he 303 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 2: constantly insisted on cooking you dinner and trying to hook 304 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 2: up with you on the couch. We didn't stop hanging 305 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 2: out with this guy. You got chronic CPP, chronic chronic 306 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 2: people pleasing. You should have cut this thing off way earlier. 307 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 2: You should be like, dude, why do you keep trying 308 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 2: to cut with me? We're just friends. You're being weird. 309 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 2: I want to hang out with you. I was channeling 310 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 2: my anger into his mediocre food. I tried hard to 311 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 2: maintain a friendship by inviting him to do the things 312 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 2: he had already told me he loved, but he never 313 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 2: wanted to do this, and this led me to feel 314 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 2: like he was disingenuous, which ultimately ended with ME telling 315 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 2: him off and blocking him. Many people read what I 316 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 2: did and saw it as cruel, but I felt like 317 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 2: this person and did not respect me, and I didn't 318 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 2: feel like what I did was wrong. However, there's more. 319 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 2: The day after I made the post, I came home 320 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 2: from work and found a stuffed animal on my doorstep 321 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 2: with an apology note. It just said, sorry for being 322 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 2: a bad friend. Aw nah, but see that's the thing, 323 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 2: you're being creepy. I thought about it for a couple 324 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 2: of days and decided that maybe I have been overly harsh. 325 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 2: I unblocked Michael, and I thanked him for the stuffed animal. 326 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 2: Then I apologized for blocking him and told him basically 327 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 2: what I said here, that I felt like he didn't 328 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 2: respect my boundaries and he didn't really value my friendship 329 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 2: because he never wanted to do anything that I suggested. 330 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 2: I expected him to be defensive, but he actually apologized profusely. 331 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 2: Of course he did, because he's freaking weird. Bro. He's weird, 332 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 2: he's got weird vibes, and he's so unbelievably desperate to like, 333 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: I don't know, like be with you or be around 334 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 2: you or be near you. It's like I ugh, and 335 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 2: he can't even cook. He told me the situation with 336 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 2: his roommates had been deteriorating for the last two months, 337 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 2: and he was physically and mentally exhausted, which is why 338 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 2: he never wanted to do anything. Every time he declined 339 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 2: my invites, he could feel that we were drifting apart 340 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 2: his friends, but he was focused on trying to manage 341 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 2: the issues at home. One thing he apologized for was 342 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 2: being unable to communicate to me what was going on. 343 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 2: He also recognized that he had pushed my boundaries and 344 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 2: tried to move things in a direction that was not platonic, 345 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 2: and he apologized for that as well. In fact, he 346 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 2: sent me a very long, seemingly heartfelt message that I 347 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 2: found really touching. He told me that the day that 348 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 2: I sent him that message and blocked him, he realized 349 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 2: that between pushing away his one friend here and having 350 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 2: such major problems with his roommates, he just didn't want 351 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 2: to stay in this city because if he runs away, 352 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 2: all his problems will go away as well. He realized 353 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 2: the issue was that he was in the city, move 354 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 2: across the country. Go ahead, that will surely solve a problem. 355 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: Keeping me here was my roommates and this friend that 356 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: I will turn into more than a friend. 357 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 2: So the day he left the plush on my doorstep, 358 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 2: he had also packed a U haul and moved back 359 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 2: home to his parents' house where he can be happy. 360 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: Run away to mommy and Daddy. That's what he did. 361 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 2: So in the life past two days, we've both apologized 362 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 2: a lot and sort of resumed our superficial meme sharing 363 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 2: internet long distance friends relationship that we had for a 364 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 2: year prior to both moving to the same state. He 365 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 2: said he hopes that one day, when he's in a 366 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 2: better place, we can meet up again and I can 367 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 2: know him as the person he really is. Not that exciting, 368 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 2: but I guess a happier ending than I expected. Thanks 369 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 2: to everyone who chimed in, even the criticisms, really helped 370 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 2: me unpack the issue that I was having. 371 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: I don't like that saying is a happy ending, but 372 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: you can get to know me for the person I 373 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: really am. 374 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 2: What so you're just. 375 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: Backing out of all of the bad things I said 376 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: about you, saying, oh that just wasn't the real me. Yeah, 377 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: you just don't actually know me. I'm actually a really 378 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: cool guy. This is honestly why you need to not 379 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: have pity friendships, because true, if there's people that are 380 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: antisocial and they are attracted to your gender and they 381 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: don't have a lot of friends, and you are friends 382 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: with them randomly, not out of their own earnings, but 383 00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: just you're going out of your way to be a 384 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: friend that they didn't earn or deserve it all, they're 385 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: gonna think you're interested in them. You gotta not do that, girl. 386 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 2: So a lot of people also wanted me to tell 387 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 2: him his cooking was bad, but I decided not to 388 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 2: why why. It just felt like it was unnecessary because 389 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 2: he was already so down, and ultimately the cooking was 390 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 2: irritating me, mostly because of the events surrounding it. Maybe 391 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 2: if we hung out again in person someday we could 392 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 2: laugh about it. But for now, I communicated what was 393 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 2: really upsetting me, and he had the opportunity to explain 394 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 2: his behavior and apologize, So I think it was as 395 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 2: constructive as it could be. 396 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: Oh Pie, you are just two dag nice Okay, I 397 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: think that's true. If you are still being friends with him, 398 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: even though you talked about like just being friends and 399 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: he apologized for like trying to make things more than that. 400 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: He is going to still think that that's a possibility 401 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: in the future, like that will even even if he 402 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: like doesn't totally believe it, like it'll be in the 403 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: back of his mind like maybe you know, yeah, we 404 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: talked about it, but like you know, maybe it'll turn 405 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 1: into something like it's going to be what the relationship is. 406 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 2: He's that too creaty. That's the kind of vibe those 407 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 2: kind of guys hang on to yes where it's like, okay, 408 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 2: so we'll keep this going for another five years and 409 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 2: then one day will fall in love because she spoke 410 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 2: to me. Yeah, it's like lift. 411 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: It's like no, no, no, no, no, no. They don't have 412 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: it like many other friends. They're not gonna they're not 413 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,719 Speaker 1: gonna go outside enough to meet people. 414 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 3: And that's the end of this story. We're gonna go 415 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 3: on to the next one. 416 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: My friend waited two months to unload on me, and 417 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: I had no idea. Why keep that to yourself. I'm 418 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 1: currently very blindsided by someone who I thought was a 419 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: pretty good friend. Her name is Ray twenty one female, 420 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: and she's been roommates with my very good friend Muna, 421 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: twenty two female for four years while we went to 422 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: college in NYC. I met Muna freshman year and we've 423 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: been very close ever since. By the way, this comes 424 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 1: from PJ mockingj and if you want us to make 425 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 1: your own stories, go to the r slash Okay, storytime 426 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: separated it and I'm Angie, I'm Sophia. Where are here 427 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: to give good advice? Goofly, But we don't have all 428 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: the answers. We just know we would do in this situation, 429 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: So let us know what you would do in the comment. 430 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: I didn't really know her roommate Ray until sophomore year, 431 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: when we were in orchestra together and became closer. To preface, 432 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: I've always been closer to Muna, but I had this 433 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: view of the two roommates as BFFs who tell each 434 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: other everything, which may have been presumptuous. Lash forward to 435 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 1: two months ago, when we all graduated together. I had 436 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: my apartment for another few weeks, so I spent a 437 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 1: lot of time with both Ray and Muna, plus Muna's boyfriend. 438 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 1: I was moving, selling things on Facebook marketplace, shipping things 439 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 1: across the country packing while simultaneously trying to enjoy my 440 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: last few weeks in New York. It was a pretty 441 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: stressful and difficult time because I was having to say 442 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: goodbye to so many people and I had no idea 443 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: when I would see them all again. For my last 444 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 1: two days in New York, I had to move out 445 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: of my apartment, and Muna offered to have me stay 446 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: at her and Rai's place and sleep in her bed 447 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: with her for two nights. We often had sleepovers like this, 448 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: so even less weird from me. For my last night 449 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: in the city on Monday night, I wanted to go 450 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: to a board game cafe with Ray, Muna, and Muna's boyfriend. 451 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 1: We pregamed beforehand and played really loud Librarians, and I 452 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: thought we had a fantastic time. I pulled my hamstring 453 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: on the way home what and ended up going to 454 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: sleep in a moderate amount of pain. It was kind 455 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: of awkward in the morning when I woke up, but 456 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: I didn't really know why. Ray left pretty early before 457 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: my two PM flight, so I didn't really see or 458 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: talk to her before I left, but I hugged and 459 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: thanked Muna for being such a good friend before I 460 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 1: got in my uber. It was really hard to say 461 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: goodbye to her. I shot the roommates a group text 462 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: a few weeks later, asking how their summer was going, 463 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: and only Muna responded. I didn't think much of it 464 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 1: because Ray sometimes pretty bad at answering texts, So a 465 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: month later I texted her individually asking for an update 466 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: on her life. Two days later, she texted, Honestly, I 467 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 1: feel like things between us were left on a really 468 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: bad note and I don't appreciate you texting me now 469 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: like that isn't the case. Either we need to have 470 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: a serious talk or we need to not be friends anymore. 471 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: Dang oh whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yikes, dude, I replied, Hey, sorry, 472 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: I honestly don't know what you're talking about. Two minutes 473 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: later I got several texts saying exactly this. Do you 474 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 1: remember when I said you should take an uber to 475 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 1: the airport because you had to carry so much stuff 476 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: and you responded by going on a brand about how 477 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: maybe other people me the person you're responding to, don't 478 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: value hard work and don't have any principles, but you do, 479 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: so you absolutely would not be taking an uber and 480 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: then you took an uber the next morning, Or the 481 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 1: fact that, after I've had convos with you about feeling excluded, 482 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: you were staying in my house for two days and 483 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: did not even bother to mention it to me. I 484 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: only found out what was happening through Muna. Or the 485 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: fact that the entire time you were here, probably because 486 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: you were stressed about the move, you were incredibly grumpy 487 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: and combative, and in the end you didn't even say 488 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 1: thank you to Muna or. 489 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 2: I for helping you out. 490 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: And also the fact that you were yelling for most 491 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: of the game night, which was supposed to be fine. Okay, 492 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: well that's that's just classic game night. That's you got. 493 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're not yelling, you're not fighting it. 494 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: If you pregamed game night, ye, Like this is gonna 495 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 1: get loud, gotta get like you were playing loud librarians. Yeah, 496 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: like what Sorry, she was good at the game. 497 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 4: I truly don't. I have never heard of loud librarians. 498 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 4: Me neither, but from the name. 499 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess you gotta be laugh. Yeah, not the librarians. 500 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: Come on, after I already had a combo with you 501 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,199 Speaker 1: about not liking being yelled at. Honestly, I think you 502 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: need to take a real hard look at yourself and 503 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: try to be more aware of your impact on other people. 504 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: I think the craziest part about this is that I 505 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: just had an absolutely zero idea that there was any 506 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: bad blood between me and her, and by extension, Muna 507 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 1: for two months. I guess her plan was to just 508 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: never text me again, which I honestly would have preferred. 509 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 1: So let me explain as best I can the Uber thing. 510 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: I vaguely remember the night before my flight, I had 511 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: made a plan with Muna, who had offered to help 512 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: me take my luggage two heavy checked bags, a carry on, 513 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 1: and a personal item on the train to the airport. 514 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 1: I had made a trip before and knew it pretty well, 515 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: so even though it would be difficult, the move had 516 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: already been very expensive for me, and I wanted to 517 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: save money. I was surprised that Muna offered to help, 518 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: but it seemed to me that she insisted, so I 519 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: gladly accepted her help, and obviously I would pay for 520 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: her train ticket. Ray approached me that night before my 521 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 1: flight and kept pushing me on taking an uber, considering 522 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: she wasn't involved in the decision at all, since she 523 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: wasn't offering to help, I was pretty frustrated. I honestly 524 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: don't remember what I said, but it clearly hurt her, 525 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: so I feel terrible about that. I may have miscommunicated 526 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: that for myself, I wanted to exhaust every effort before 527 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 1: spending money. I definitely did not mean to imply that 528 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 1: Ray was not hard working or did not have principles, 529 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: and I had no idea that she even thought I 530 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: was implying that because she didn't bring it up again. 531 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: All this to say, on my last day in New York, 532 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: I didn't think much of her behavior around me. It 533 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: truly didn't seem different at all. After we got back 534 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: from our night out, I discussed with Muda that I 535 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: would just take an uber because I didn't want to 536 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: strain my weak leg. Ray commenting on me taking the 537 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: uber makes me think that she hadn't discussed any of 538 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 1: this with Muna during those two months, because Muna would 539 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 1: have explained why I decided to take one. Even looking back, 540 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 1: I can't pinpoint her feelings because she really seemed to 541 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: hide them entirely. Now, going back to the text about 542 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: feeling excluded, I admit I should have texted her. I 543 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: was very busy beforehand. In Muna and I had made 544 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 1: the plans a while ago. I usually assume they've talked 545 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: about whatever I texted, So I text Muna directly about 546 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: plans involving both of them. Most of what she said 547 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: is pretty valid, and I'm not even upset that she 548 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: brought it up, only that she brought it up two 549 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: months later, after I had commented on their Instagram posts 550 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 1: and texted our group chat a few times. Ray had 551 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: even liked my comment on Instagram after she apparently formed 552 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: a deep grudge with me. Okay, I get it, but also, 553 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: like that's a really annoying thing too, and I've definitely 554 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 1: done that like recently, like that mindset of like, well, 555 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: she said she was upset, but she also liked my 556 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: comment on Instagram, So like after she was apparently upset, 557 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, like I get it. 558 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:46,959 Speaker 4: I don't think you can take on, but you know 559 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 4: you can take liking Instagram comment. 560 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's proof that she's not upset, right. 561 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 3: We don't. 562 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: We don't need to involve that in the in the 563 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 1: she might have liked to accident. Yeah, exactly, in regard 564 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,719 Speaker 1: to me being grump I most certainly was. I had 565 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 1: admitted to both of them how miserable I was about 566 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 1: moving and saying goodbye to everyone. I tried to keep 567 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: my spirits up, and I truly thought we had a 568 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: great time. I was very surprised to hear that Ray 569 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: was upset that I was apparently yelling the whole time. 570 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: I can see how being loud is in everyone's idea 571 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 1: of fun, but I really don't think it's fair to 572 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: not bring it up with me at all and then 573 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 1: spring it on me months later. And it's honestly kind 574 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: of laughable because the game we all agreed to was 575 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: literally called really Loud Librarians. In no way was I 576 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: yelling at her. I raised my voice and excitement, not anger. 577 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: But her saying that I didn't thank her and Muna 578 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: at all is just not true. Ray was gone most 579 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,719 Speaker 1: of my last day there. I said goodbye and hugged her. 580 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: I don't really know what she's referencing, because I was 581 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: staying in Muna's room and Muna was the one helping 582 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: me with everything. I suppose I could have thanked her 583 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: for letting me stay at her place, but I didn't 584 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: really think about it. A few days before, Muna, her boyfriend, 585 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: and Ray helped me take luggage to their fourth floor 586 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: walk up. I believe I thanked everyone then, and I 587 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: gave them things that I wasn't taking, like a new vacuum, 588 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: canned food, and other supplies. And as for her last paragraph, 589 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: it feels so patronizing and hypocritical coming from Ray in particular, 590 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: she has hurt my feelings in the past, and I 591 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: didn't bring it up because I felt intimidated by her. 592 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 1: She doesn't like to admit when she's wrong. Whenever Ray 593 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: made me upset, I gave her the benefit of the 594 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 1: doubt and chalked it up to her being in a 595 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: bad mood. My philosophy is that if I don't bring 596 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: it up. 597 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 2: It's my problem. 598 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: I would never hold someone accountable for my feelings if 599 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: I didn't express them, let alone hold a grudge for months. 600 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: I always gave her the benefit of the doubt, and 601 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: it's really disappointing to realize that she didn't afford me 602 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: the same. If she had brought any of this up, 603 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: it would have given me the chance to make up 604 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: for it before we no longer lived in the same state. 605 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: I always kind of felt like Ray wasn't really my 606 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 1: friend and I was just being friends with her because 607 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: she and Muna were so close. They had recently been 608 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: having conflict about Muna's boyfriend being over too often, and 609 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: Ray said that she wouldn't want to live with Muna again. 610 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 1: Muna had told me about this before, but I didn't 611 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,199 Speaker 1: bring it up when we were all hanging out together. Honestly, 612 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: don't even want to respond to these texts, and my 613 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: mom is telling me to ghost her, but the problem 614 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: is that I still very much love Muna and want 615 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: to remain her friend. I have no idea what Ray 616 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 1: has said about me to Muna, so I'm not. 617 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 2: Sure what to do. 618 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: Asker Yeah, on a harker, I obviously I don't think 619 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: that we should be friends anymore. But am I the 620 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: a whole? That's the end of that story. But yeah, 621 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 1: I think you're not. 622 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 4: No, but I also think that anything you do going 623 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 4: forward to try and fix it should not be done 624 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 4: over text. 625 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. I would have to agree, Yeah, because. 626 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 4: We don't want you going Immuna and like sending a 627 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 4: whole bunch of texts that maybe she can show Ray. 628 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: Let's just let's just chat with her. Yeah, yeah, exactly, 629 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: Like you don't need to involve her in the stuff, 630 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: because I've had that too, where it's like a mutual 631 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: friend was like at risk of not being my friends 632 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,479 Speaker 1: anymore because I knew that the person that was beefing 633 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: with me was like telling them things, and I just 634 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,719 Speaker 1: like didn't show them any texts. It was just like, 635 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: this is just where I stand with that. Yeah, And 636 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: then it was just the same thing with me. 637 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, and that friend realized that the other friend, yeah, 638 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 4: not a good person. 639 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: There you go. It sorts itself out, it really does, 640 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 1: and maybe they won't be roommates for a very much. Yeah, 641 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: but that's the end of that story. 642 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 2: My sister's boyfriend took my nephew's controller, so I got 643 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 2: some petty revenge. 644 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 5: You beat him in Mario Kart. 645 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 2: Yes, and there's a trigger warning for mention of mistreatment. 646 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 2: This happened a week ago, but my nephew is still 647 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 2: losing his mind over it and told me I should 648 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 2: post it here for everyone to enjoy as well. So 649 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 2: here we go. And by the way, this comes from 650 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 2: user Puppy Marrow And if you want to submit your 651 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 2: own stories, go to the r slash okay, storytime suburn it. 652 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,439 Speaker 2: I'm Dakota, I'm Carly, and we're here to give good 653 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,199 Speaker 2: advice Googly, But we don't have all the answers. We 654 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 2: only know what we would do, So let us know 655 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 2: what you would do in the comments, and Op says 656 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 2: I should preface by saying I only see my nephew 657 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 2: every couple months due to him being at his dad's 658 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 2: or me not being able to come up when she 659 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 2: has him. Because of that, when I do visit, I 660 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 2: try to make the time count. This trip ended up 661 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 2: being way more memorable than I expected. I thirty three 662 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 2: e mail, went to visit my sister thirty eight female, 663 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 2: and my nephew thirteen mail for two weeks. My nephew 664 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 2: and I are really big gamers, though we are into 665 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 2: different games. He loves playing Fortnite with me, while I 666 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 2: enjoy things like Overwatch, war Frame, et cetera. We were 667 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 2: playing Fortnite and he was laughing hysterically because I cannot 668 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 2: build quickly at all. I just cannot do it, no 669 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 2: matter how much he tries to help and teach me. 670 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 2: He kept yelling, Uncle, hit this button and then that 671 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 2: and this and that, over and over to build a 672 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 2: ramp while laughing his head off. My sister's boyfriend, thirty 673 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 2: nine mail, who they've been together for about a year, 674 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 2: came in and raised his voice about my nephew using 675 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 2: his controller. Mind you, it is normally okay, but randomly 676 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 2: today it was not. He snatched the controller from my 677 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 2: nephew and the game pretty much ended because we couldn't 678 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 2: play together anymore. Weird, weird vibe, strange switch up, very strange. 679 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,959 Speaker 2: It's you. You're supposed to be the adult, you're acting 680 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 2: like you're also thirteen. Here's the thing about me. I 681 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 2: am not a petty person, but the look in my 682 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 2: nephew's eyes hit me hard. I am not a physical 683 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 2: altercation person, but I will use my resources to get even. 684 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 2: I told my sister I was taking my nephew out 685 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 2: for an hour. We went to game stop and I 686 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 2: bought two controllers and then headed back. We started playing 687 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 2: again and the boyfriend threw another fit. I calmly showed 688 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 2: him the receipt and told him they were my controllers, 689 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 2: not his. The manchild boyfriend then said it was his 690 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 2: PS four, so we left again and headed back to GameStop. God, 691 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 2: that's so funny. Yes, that's so funny. 692 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 5: Eighteen year olds having the day of his life. 693 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 2: He just hit, he just made he hit bank. 694 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 5: He just got two controllers and a PS four hit 695 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 5: the mudload. 696 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 2: I bought my nephew a new PS four. We went 697 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 2: back and set it up, started playing again once again. 698 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 2: The manchild had a fit. I showed him the receipts 699 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 2: and then he said it was his TV and his games. 700 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 2: At this point, I was annoyed beyond belief because it 701 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 2: was not that serious. 702 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 5: Manchild just wants to play PS four right now. 703 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just like I just want to play. But 704 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 2: I don't have the emotional maturity to express that in 705 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 2: a way that's not entirely abrasive. 706 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,959 Speaker 5: And I'm afraid that my little thirteen year old's going 707 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 5: to show me up. 708 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and also he's not allowed to be better than me. 709 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, my ego can't handle that. 710 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 2: No, is you have to lose on purpose. I did 711 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 2: not want to spend this kind of money, but this 712 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 2: is my only nephew, and this man was being childish 713 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 2: over something so small. I could not just let it go. 714 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 2: I pulled my sister aside and told her my nephew 715 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 2: and I would be gone early the next morning for 716 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 2: half the day. She said it was fine, as I 717 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 2: knew she would. The next morning, we went to GameStop 718 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 2: and I got him a ton of games. I say 719 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 2: a ton, but it was about ten, which that that's 720 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 2: a a lot. That game, two extra controllers, and a 721 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 2: VR setup. Then we went to Walmart and I got 722 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 2: him a forty two inch TV and a TV stand. 723 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 2: We brought everything back to my sister's house and set 724 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 2: it all up in the den. Later that day, the 725 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 2: boyfriend arrived and tried to start something. My lovely sister 726 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 2: pointed out that I bought everything and that she pays 727 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 2: for the internet. Ah, yes, sorry, you actually can't play that. 728 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 2: It's my internet. Yeah yeah, it's not allowed. Only single player, 729 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 2: only single player offline games for you, boyfriend. So at 730 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 2: this point boyfriend had nothing left to argue about and 731 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 2: couldn't say anything anymore. Y'all, this man child spent four 732 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 2: hours sitting in the corner of the living room, four 733 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 2: hours of full on scowling. I was loving it because 734 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 2: I could see him from where I was sitting. My 735 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 2: nephew was completely oblivious, and my sister had to keep 736 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 2: hiding her smirk. Why is sister they're still with this 737 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,959 Speaker 2: guy if she is also happy that he is upset 738 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 2: and like, why would we stay with someone so childish? 739 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 2: He was so mad that his girlfriend's brother spent all 740 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 2: this money just to be able to game with his nephew. 741 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 2: My sister saw it as him being childish and me 742 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 2: making sure my nephew and I could enjoy something we 743 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 2: like together. We spent all day playing Fortnite and having 744 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 2: an awesome time. I have never felt so petty, but 745 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 2: foref's sake, it felt so good. It was worth every 746 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 2: bit of it just to see my nephew happy. No, 747 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 2: I still cannot build to save my life. Yes, my 748 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 2: sister can build better than I can. And yes she 749 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 2: did game with us. While he sat there fuming. She 750 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 2: told me if I ever have kids, she'll buy mine 751 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 2: the latest and greatest game system when the time comes. 752 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 2: We now try to play together every other night. My 753 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 2: nephew finally has no one telling him he cannot use 754 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 2: his PlayStation or his controllers. He is happier, and honestly 755 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 2: so am I. Gaming together has become our thing now, 756 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 2: questions I was asked in the other community. My sister 757 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,479 Speaker 2: normally has a boyfriend like this for one or two years, 758 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 2: then finds another one. It is complicated and very much 759 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 2: and I can fix him or lost puppy syndrome situation. 760 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 2: I did not plan to go as far as I 761 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 2: did with what I bought, which is why I did 762 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 2: not get a PS five. In the beginning, everything was 763 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 2: pre owned from GameStop, and the TV was a TLC 764 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,439 Speaker 2: that cost about one hundred and sixty bucks. A lot 765 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 2: of the accessories were me feeding off my nephew's excitement 766 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 2: at the store. Seeing how happy he was made it 767 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 2: hard to stop. I don't regret it, even if it 768 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 2: got a little out of hand. Sometimes joy is worth 769 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 2: the price OPI spent like probably like five hundred dollars 770 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 2: at least, like on all of this stuff. 771 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 5: Right now though, that thirteen year old like, you're in forever. 772 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, permanent, permanent in status. 773 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 5: For sure, permanent coolness. 774 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 2: And we have an update. I linked this post to 775 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 2: my sister because some of you said to show her 776 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 2: what was being said. She was pissed that I put 777 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 2: her business out there like that, but I told her 778 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 2: no one knows who she is unless she comments or 779 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 2: tells people. She is completely anonymous. She called me early 780 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 2: this morning, breaking down and crying, saying, y'all were a 781 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 2: holes for the words you said, but in a good way. Hmm, 782 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,879 Speaker 2: maybe in like a way where she saw the light. 783 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 784 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:21,760 Speaker 5: I think it's a wake up powe. 785 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think maybe we need to talk to sister 786 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 2: about the kind of guys she's dating. Yeah, but it 787 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 2: sounds like you're already aware of that and. 788 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 5: Why they're beefing with your child. 789 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't be dating a guy who's got beef 790 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 2: with your actual child. My sister is realizing that the 791 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 2: men she chooses are nothing but harmful tools. Oh yeah, 792 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 2: I got there. Therapy starts in three weeks and the 793 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 2: boyfriend is being broken up with today. Yay. She apologized 794 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 2: to me, but I told her to apologize to her 795 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,760 Speaker 2: son and she will be. Reddit is known for its trolling, 796 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 2: and but y'all did it. You helped her understand that 797 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 2: she's causing her own problems and that she needs to 798 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 2: be working on being better. Thank you from a little 799 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 2: brother who loves his big sister and has tried for 800 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 2: years to get her to understand. Thank you from an 801 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 2: uncle who wants the best for his nephew. Also, my 802 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 2: nephew's dad is going to help her find a good 803 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 2: man who will love and care for them both when 804 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,280 Speaker 2: the time comes. And that's the end of that story. 805 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 2: That's that's that's intense. 806 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 5: It's a weird final statement. 807 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 2: That's like the so your your sister's ex husband is 808 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 2: gonna help find her a new man. Hmm. Yes, that 809 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 2: sounds like a Hallmark movie plot where they just end 810 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:42,760 Speaker 2: up getting back together. 811 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 3: And that's the end of this story. We're gonna go 812 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 3: on to the next one. 813 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: Hey, it's Angie, your favorite fake redhead host here, and 814 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,320 Speaker 1: we're going to get back to the stories. 815 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 5: But here's a three minute ad break from our sponsors. 816 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 5: My sister drained me finance and she still wanted more. 817 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 5: MA give me Ma for background. I am the oldest 818 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 5: of three girls, and I've always felt like I had 819 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,720 Speaker 5: to take on a lot in my family, especially financially 820 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 5: growing up. I never really made my sisters pay for 821 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 5: anything and covered most things when we were out and about. 822 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 5: By the way, this comes from Significant Salt seven three 823 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 5: and if you want us to make your own stories, 824 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 5: go to the r slash Okay storytime subreddit. 825 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,320 Speaker 2: I'm Carly, I'm Dakota and we're. 826 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 5: Here to give good advice. Goofully. We don't have all 827 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 5: the answers. We only know what we would do, So 828 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 5: let us know what you would do in the comments, 829 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 5: and OP says, I've played uber driver essentially my whole life, 830 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 5: spending hours moving them into college, driving them to and 831 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 5: from places, covering rent deposits, even when I was still 832 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 5: in school, paying my own rent, and doing things that 833 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 5: generally my parents should have done from a young age. 834 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,360 Speaker 5: It felt like this responsibility naturally fell on me, and 835 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 5: I accepted it without much question. Fast forward to now 836 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 5: we are all adults in our twenties. I have essentially 837 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 5: stopped covering things for my middle sister because she has 838 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 5: a full time job and a master's degree. She gets 839 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 5: upset when I do not cover her expenses and nags 840 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 5: me for staying with my parents and using them despite 841 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 5: how much money I make. I do make about twice 842 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 5: her salary, but I have over one hundred and sixty 843 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 5: K worth of school owns, and my parents are doing 844 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 5: me a huge favor by letting me stay home while 845 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 5: I pay them off. Aside from living at home, I'm 846 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 5: pretty much financially independent. I should also mention that she 847 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 5: also stays at home for the same reason, so we're 848 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 5: we're like twins. Everything came to a head when I 849 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 5: called her out for her crappy behavior after she got 850 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 5: mad at me for asking for a ride from the airport. 851 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 5: This was even though just a few days prior she 852 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 5: had me drop her off at some random party. She 853 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 5: acted as if she had done me some huge, elaborate 854 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 5: favor that I didn't appreciate her when I felt like 855 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 5: she could have simply said no if she didn't want 856 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 5: to help, not to mention, I do these things for 857 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 5: her constantly without complaining or asking for anything in return. 858 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 5: The double standard really started to hit me in that moment. 859 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 5: We also got into a huge fight about her wanting 860 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,879 Speaker 5: to use a purse she gave me over five years 861 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 5: ago for her first day of work, which she never 862 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,720 Speaker 5: told me about beforehand. She assumed that I knew every 863 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 5: detail about her life. Anne was upset that I didn't 864 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 5: congratulate her on her new job, yet she was also 865 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 5: mad that my mom told me about it, indicating she 866 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 5: never wanted me to know at all. I would have 867 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 5: given her the purse back to borrow if she had 868 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,240 Speaker 5: asked nicely, but Instead, she came to my face cussing 869 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:03,399 Speaker 5: me out and called me fat, ugly, and selfish for 870 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,959 Speaker 5: not letting her use it. She even said she never 871 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 5: meant to give it to me in the first place, 872 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 5: despite it being over half a decade ago. 873 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 2: That's a long time to hold on to such like 874 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 2: a petty beef. 875 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 5: Yeah. I was eventually guilted into giving it back, but 876 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 5: she continued to blast my very personal life to my family, 877 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 5: which crossed a major line for me. She has a 878 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 5: foul mouth, and I have warned her before to be 879 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 5: more mindful of how she uses her words because they 880 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 5: can have consequences. That all happened about five months ago, 881 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 5: and I've cut her off since, including blocking her on everything. Truthfully, 882 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,800 Speaker 5: I've never been happier. Staying at home does make things 883 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,919 Speaker 5: awkward at times, but I feel like a huge weight 884 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 5: has been lifted off my shoulders from not having to 885 00:40:54,560 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 5: be around her constant complaining, nagging, verbal mistreatment, and endless 886 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 5: need for favors. Despite being completely capable herself, I genuinely 887 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 5: feel happier in many ways. The piece has been noticeable. Recently, 888 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 5: I heard her freaking out about someone eating her snacks 889 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:19,400 Speaker 5: and immediately pointing fingers at me. She spent three dollars 890 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 5: on random chocolates and accused me of eating them, which 891 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:26,799 Speaker 5: I definitely did not, which I honestly cannot believe how 892 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 5: petty and obnoxious this behavior feels. I proceeded to remove 893 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 5: her access from my Amazon account, and she sent me 894 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,320 Speaker 5: a long paragraph which my other sister showed me, saying 895 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 5: that I was pathetic and had nothing better to do 896 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 5: in my free time than make things difficult for her. 897 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 5: Mind you, this is my account that I pay for 898 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 5: but allow my entire family to use. I never addressed 899 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 5: her message. My sister and I grew up incredibly close, 900 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 5: but in the past year she has changed so much. 901 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,319 Speaker 5: She is far more verbal, aggressive, and cusses people out 902 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,880 Speaker 5: when things do not go her way. She is a 903 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 5: few years younger than me, so I understand there may 904 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 5: be immaturity involved, but it feels like she has regressed 905 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 5: rather than grown. Either that or her true colors are 906 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 5: finally showing. She has also displayed multiple behaviors that make 907 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 5: me feel like she is resentful of my success, such 908 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 5: as sabotaging my grad gifts by threatening to throw them 909 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,840 Speaker 5: out and expecting me to continually pay for her just 910 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 5: because I make more money. I will say she occasionally 911 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,799 Speaker 5: gets me at pastry here and there, but it does 912 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 5: not even come close to what I've done for her 913 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,880 Speaker 5: over the years. On top of that, she tracks every 914 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 5: nice deed she does and is extremely transactional about it. 915 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's tracking every nice thing you do. Means that 916 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 2: you're not doing nice things. You're doing things with the 917 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 2: expectation that you'll get something out of it, not doing 918 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:00,319 Speaker 2: a nice. 919 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 5: It's a little weird. Meanwhile, I never asked for anything 920 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 5: in return, which I recognize is partly my fault because 921 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:11,839 Speaker 5: I have bad boundaries. I'm now trying to set those boundaries, 922 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:16,360 Speaker 5: and I'm receiving insane backlash from my entire family. I 923 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 5: keep hearing, she's your sister, how could you treat her 924 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 5: like that? Yet no one asks I am her sister, too, 925 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 5: so how could she treat me like that? I also 926 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 5: realized that a lot of this may sound like small, 927 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 5: petty stuff. However, I do not have these issues with 928 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 5: my youngest sister, whom I also treat similarly to my 929 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 5: middle sister. My youngest sister is simply more self aware, appreciative, 930 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,319 Speaker 5: and self sufficient. I think deep down. Part of my 931 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 5: hurt comes from the fact that I never really had 932 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,360 Speaker 5: the cushion of an older sister myself and had to 933 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 5: be independent my entire life. Now, my middle sister is 934 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,799 Speaker 5: refusing to come to Thanksgiving dinner if I show up, 935 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 5: meaning that I have to decide whether to attend or 936 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:06,320 Speaker 5: get blamed forever for her absence. I am just tired 937 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 5: of her. Your sister kind of sucks. 938 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,440 Speaker 2: Middle child be middle childing. 939 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:12,800 Speaker 5: It's always the middle children. 940 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think maybe just like, make an itemized list 941 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:17,799 Speaker 2: of everything you've done for her and be like, you 942 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 2: can just pay this back to me over time. Yeah. 943 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,920 Speaker 5: Remember when I paid for your college? Do you do 944 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 5: you want more college to Yeah? 945 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:31,279 Speaker 2: Would you like? Would you like to experience DT to me? 946 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 2: And by would you like? I mean you now are 947 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 2: in debt to me? Surprise, you took the purse back. 948 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 2: It all started with that. 949 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 5: I do not see myself making up with her anytime soon. 950 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,760 Speaker 5: I cannot subject myself to the behavior I was dealing 951 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,399 Speaker 5: with anymore, especially now that I have additional real life 952 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:55,280 Speaker 5: stressors like my career as a provider in the ICU. 953 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 5: I feel pressured by my family to reconcile but I 954 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 5: do not think they understand, including my sister herself, the 955 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 5: magnitude of her actions and how deeply they affected me. 956 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 5: I have to prioritize my own happiness and I cannot 957 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 5: keep doing this sacrificial stuff because it completely drains me. 958 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 5: I think moving out would help, but it is not 959 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 5: financially responsible right now. Bottom line, I cut my sister off. 960 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,920 Speaker 5: My family thinks I'm a knucklehead for it because I'm 961 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 5: the oldest daughter, but I feel much happier without her 962 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 5: in my life and do not see reconciliation happening anytime soon. 963 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:33,839 Speaker 5: Am I the a hole? 964 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 2: It really doesn't feel like you are. 965 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,799 Speaker 5: It really feels just like, hey, can your parents, like 966 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 5: I don't know, do something. 967 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, can we get a little intermediary going here with 968 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 2: mental us? 969 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,959 Speaker 5: Perhaps, considering you've been parenting them your whole life, maybe 970 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:51,800 Speaker 5: they could start. 971 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 2: It would be nice if you had a little bit 972 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 2: of a backup instead of everyone they're mad at you 973 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,839 Speaker 2: because it's like, well, now, it's like if now, if 974 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 2: you show up, there's strife. But it's like there's two sides, right, 975 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,400 Speaker 2: There's two sides to the strife. 976 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, do you ever think that maybe she's call using 977 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:09,440 Speaker 5: the strife people. 978 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:11,920 Speaker 3: And that's the end of this story. We're gonna go 979 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 3: on to the next one. 980 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 2: My family accused me of stealing my sister's money after 981 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:17,919 Speaker 2: I took her in. 982 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 5: Sounds like that might just be rent. 983 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,880 Speaker 2: I got temporary guardianship of my little sister and she 984 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,640 Speaker 2: is now living with me full time. I provide everything 985 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:32,400 Speaker 2: for her, including housing, school, food, transportation, and all daily needs. 986 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,880 Speaker 2: I will be getting full guardianship in two months. And 987 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,280 Speaker 2: by the way, this comes from user mad Candy twelve 988 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,120 Speaker 2: And if you want to submit your own stories, go 989 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,720 Speaker 2: to the r slash showcase storytime subburn it. I'm Dakota, 990 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 2: I'm Carly, and we're here to give a little good 991 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 2: of virus goofully. We don't have all the answers, we 992 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:48,719 Speaker 2: just know what we do, so just tell us what 993 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 2: you would do in the comments if you so choose. 994 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 2: And op says, my sister's dad passed away and my 995 00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:00,799 Speaker 2: mom and my sister receive Social Security money every my 996 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 2: mom is refusing to give me my sister's portion and 997 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,879 Speaker 2: is instead giving it to my grandma. My grandma also 998 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 2: won't give it to me and says I need to 999 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,319 Speaker 2: buy my sister things first, and then she will pay 1000 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,560 Speaker 2: me back using the Social Security money only if I 1001 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:20,120 Speaker 2: provide receipts. Even then, she will only reimburse me if 1002 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 2: she personally deems the purchase acceptable. So that sounds like 1003 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,320 Speaker 2: if you have full guardianship over your sister. That sounds 1004 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:28,400 Speaker 2: maybe illegal. 1005 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, it sounds like you legally get that money no 1006 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,400 Speaker 5: matter what. I feel like we can call up the 1007 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 5: Social Security people. 1008 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we need to look up some laws. 1009 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 2: If I buy something she does not approve of, she 1010 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,560 Speaker 2: will not pay me back using my sister's SSA money. 1011 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,239 Speaker 2: When I asked my grandma to just give me the 1012 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,520 Speaker 2: full amount, she and my aunt said no because they 1013 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,480 Speaker 2: want to keep it as an emergency fund that I 1014 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 2: will not be able to access. When I asked for 1015 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 2: access to those emergency funds, they said no because they 1016 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,759 Speaker 2: think I will use the money for myself. My aunt 1017 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,200 Speaker 2: is telling my grandma that I'm irresponsible and naive and 1018 00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,319 Speaker 2: that I will use the money for myself instead of 1019 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,759 Speaker 2: my sister if I'm given full access. My grandma and 1020 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,840 Speaker 2: aunt also claim I cannot go through so Security to 1021 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,239 Speaker 2: have the money sent directly to me because it will 1022 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,719 Speaker 2: decrease the amount my sister receives. They insist that going 1023 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 2: through them is the best way to manage the money 1024 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 2: without it being reduced. I think all of this is ridiculous. 1025 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 2: I have had my little sister living with me full 1026 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,080 Speaker 2: time for over a month with zero help from anyone. 1027 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 2: No one even asks me how she's doing, not about 1028 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:39,040 Speaker 2: her allergies, diet, school, friends, or anything else. Yeah, it 1029 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:40,880 Speaker 2: sounds like bad parent. 1030 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,320 Speaker 5: This sounds like this is the reason that you have customs. 1031 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:49,560 Speaker 2: Her mom got bad parent disease. Yeah, I'm the one 1032 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,920 Speaker 2: who did all of the paperwork, went to court, got 1033 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 2: her therapy, tuck her in at night, I make her 1034 00:48:56,080 --> 00:49:00,960 Speaker 2: practice her timetables, and handling everything alone in voting. Financially, 1035 00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,920 Speaker 2: I've spent a little over one thousand dollars setting up 1036 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,319 Speaker 2: her room and getting everything she needs because I had 1037 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,400 Speaker 2: to start from scratch. Now that money is involved, everyone 1038 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,719 Speaker 2: suddenly feels the need to be involved. My grandma did 1039 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,440 Speaker 2: reimburse me using the money for most of what I 1040 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,480 Speaker 2: bought after I gave her receipts, but she excluded three 1041 00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,400 Speaker 2: hundred dollars because I left that receipt at my apartment. 1042 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,919 Speaker 2: She does not believe me that the money was spent 1043 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 2: on my sister, and insists she needs proof. It's honestly 1044 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,480 Speaker 2: so insulting because I've never done anything to show that 1045 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 2: I'm financially selfish or malicious. I'm twenty three years old 1046 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,600 Speaker 2: and just got guardianship of a little kid. What part 1047 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:40,040 Speaker 2: of that is selfish? I'm giving up my twenties to 1048 00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,560 Speaker 2: take care of a kid who's not even mine. I'm 1049 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:46,080 Speaker 2: responsible enough to take her to doctors and dentists, enroll 1050 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,719 Speaker 2: her in school and sports, treat her infections, maintain a 1051 00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:53,120 Speaker 2: bed time routine, and follow a specific diet because she's 1052 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 2: at risk for diabetes. But I'm supposedly too irresponsible to 1053 00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 2: make financial decisions. I don't think that's the case. I 1054 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:01,720 Speaker 2: think they're keeping that money. 1055 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, they just want the money. 1056 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,600 Speaker 2: Money make people weird. People want money. 1057 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,480 Speaker 5: They're lying to you. They just want money, and you're 1058 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 5: doing so well. Though. 1059 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,360 Speaker 2: If I'm so irresponsible and selfish, then why do I 1060 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,560 Speaker 2: have guardianship of her? Why didn't my grandma or aunt 1061 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:21,520 Speaker 2: try to get guardianship instead. It's because they don't want 1062 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,640 Speaker 2: to take care of a little kid. They just want 1063 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,680 Speaker 2: to control what I do with her. I also do 1064 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,240 Speaker 2: everything for everyone in this family, but that's a different story. 1065 00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,000 Speaker 2: So am I overreacting for being upset about this? Should 1066 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,440 Speaker 2: I just go along with it, give the receipts and 1067 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,839 Speaker 2: get paid back? Should I try to get the money 1068 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,480 Speaker 2: sent directly to me since I'm the one caring for her. 1069 00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,200 Speaker 2: I honestly do not know. And there are some comments, 1070 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,560 Speaker 2: but yeah, I think look exactly into the laws and stuff. 1071 00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,520 Speaker 2: If you know, if it is true that she gets 1072 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,839 Speaker 2: less money somehow, if it's sent directly to. 1073 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,120 Speaker 5: You, I feel like that's a lie. 1074 00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:59,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds a little too convenient. Yeah, come at one. 1075 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,000 Speaker 2: Why do they think you're going to take her money 1076 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,600 Speaker 2: and use it for yourself? Do you have a good job, 1077 00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,879 Speaker 2: are you in financial distress? Is it a ridiculous thought, 1078 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,880 Speaker 2: or is there a reason they might believe it? Opie says, 1079 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,960 Speaker 2: I have a very well paying job. I currently have 1080 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,360 Speaker 2: a two bedroom, two bath apartment I pay for by myself. 1081 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 2: I got pneumonia and broke my leg. That's a bad combo, 1082 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,560 Speaker 2: so I couldn't work for like four months. So I'm 1083 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,719 Speaker 2: in a little bit of credit card debt, but I'm 1084 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,960 Speaker 2: paying it off and all my cards are zero percent APR. 1085 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,560 Speaker 2: They're saying, I'm going to use my sister's money to 1086 00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:37,239 Speaker 2: pay it off for myself. That thought never even came 1087 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,560 Speaker 2: to mind. I would never do that. I don't know 1088 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,759 Speaker 2: why they would think so little of me. Ope, it's 1089 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,120 Speaker 2: because that's what they would. 1090 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,879 Speaker 5: Do, right, because they would be that petty to use it. 1091 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,040 Speaker 2: They think that you would do it because it's exactly 1092 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,880 Speaker 2: what they want to do. I've never done anything like 1093 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,640 Speaker 2: that before. And there is an update. My grandma, my 1094 00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:00,640 Speaker 2: aunt and I all talked today. They said, the money 1095 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:04,040 Speaker 2: my sister gets as survivor benefits from Social Security, is 1096 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:07,440 Speaker 2: it my business? I told them it is my business, 1097 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,520 Speaker 2: so I know how much money I can spend on 1098 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,279 Speaker 2: my kid. When I said my kid, my aunt yelled 1099 00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,920 Speaker 2: at me and said my sister is not my child 1100 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,040 Speaker 2: and that I only have her until my mom gets 1101 00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,960 Speaker 2: her life together. She said my mom is trying to 1102 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,080 Speaker 2: improve and that once she does, I will have to 1103 00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,719 Speaker 2: give my sister back. They told me they'll receive the 1104 00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,000 Speaker 2: money from my mom and that they're not going to 1105 00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,160 Speaker 2: tell me when they get it how much it is 1106 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,800 Speaker 2: or how much is left, because it is not my business. 1107 00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,920 Speaker 2: They said, I have to get any purchase preapproved. If 1108 00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,480 Speaker 2: I want to buy my sister anything, they can deny 1109 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,840 Speaker 2: anything I ask for and they will not reimburse me 1110 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,960 Speaker 2: unless I provide a receipt and they decide the item 1111 00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:49,240 Speaker 2: and price are worth it. I asked why I cannot 1112 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,840 Speaker 2: just receive the total amount since I'm the one taking 1113 00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,960 Speaker 2: care of her, and they said it is because I 1114 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:58,520 Speaker 2: am financially irresponsible. When I asked what made them think that, 1115 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:00,600 Speaker 2: they said it was because I bought my sister a 1116 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:04,280 Speaker 2: fifty dollars water bottle and new clothes when she already 1117 00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,239 Speaker 2: had water bottles and clothes at my grandma's house. Yeah. 1118 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,239 Speaker 5: Is grandma going to give her those clothes because she's 1119 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:10,400 Speaker 5: not giving her anything else? 1120 00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:14,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, hope, he elaborates. My grandma's house is full of 1121 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 2: mold and the clothes my mom got her are ugly, 1122 00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:23,759 Speaker 2: too small, absurdly too big, moldy, or have holes. The 1123 00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,279 Speaker 2: water bottles were moldy as well. In the month I've 1124 00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,960 Speaker 2: had my sister, I've spent about one thousand dollars on her, 1125 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,960 Speaker 2: which includes food and everything needed to start from scratch. 1126 00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,960 Speaker 2: This includes a comforter, pillows, sheets, special shoes for her 1127 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:42,480 Speaker 2: wide feet, binders, notebooks, a backpack, folders for school, bath towels, 1128 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,920 Speaker 2: a shower curtain, and a bath mat. Kids need a 1129 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,279 Speaker 2: lot of stuff. I explained to all of this, and 1130 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:52,719 Speaker 2: they did not care. Full blown figuring out exactly how 1131 00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 2: much leverage you. 1132 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,440 Speaker 5: Have legally, Yeah, I cannot wait for you to just 1133 00:53:56,520 --> 00:54:01,680 Speaker 5: like come at them with the forces of the Social Security. 1134 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,400 Speaker 2: Yes, the course of the law. But you got to 1135 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,719 Speaker 2: do your research. Be tactical. Yeah, tactical research. 1136 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,560 Speaker 5: And I really hope that the law is made to 1137 00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,759 Speaker 5: be on your side. Yes, that would be ridiculous if 1138 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,000 Speaker 5: it's not. Yes, that also, Unfortunately it's the way it 1139 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:14,960 Speaker 5: happens sometimes. 1140 00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. They told me that was too much money and 1141 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,400 Speaker 2: said I'm buying things I want, not things she needs. 1142 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,680 Speaker 2: I told them I was insulted that they thought that 1143 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,680 Speaker 2: of me, and they said, well, it's true, so you 1144 00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,400 Speaker 2: can't be upset about it. They also told me that 1145 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,279 Speaker 2: the money is actually my mom's, not my sisters, which 1146 00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,120 Speaker 2: is not true. It's both of them. They claimed my 1147 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,799 Speaker 2: sister is only entitled to thirty to forty percent of it, 1148 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:42,080 Speaker 2: and that if I got to Social Security the amount 1149 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:45,439 Speaker 2: will be reduced to that percentage. I don't know where 1150 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,840 Speaker 2: they got those numbers for the social Security money. My 1151 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,279 Speaker 2: grandma and aunt said, how generous my mom is for 1152 00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,799 Speaker 2: giving me any of the money at all, because it's 1153 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:57,160 Speaker 2: supposedly her money and she's not required to give my 1154 00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:58,120 Speaker 2: sister any other it. 1155 00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,279 Speaker 5: Then use it and take care of your I can't. 1156 00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:05,239 Speaker 2: Imagine the brain rot, the amount of mold in your brain. 1157 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,440 Speaker 2: You would need to think that that is like a oh, 1158 00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,160 Speaker 2: like I got you, I just owned you. It's like, yeah, 1159 00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,400 Speaker 2: your mom Actually, really, you should be grateful because your 1160 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,520 Speaker 2: mother doesn't need to give any of this money to 1161 00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:20,799 Speaker 2: her daughter. Most of this conversation involved yelling and constant interruptions. 1162 00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,800 Speaker 2: Should I just stay quiet and go along with this arrangement? 1163 00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:27,279 Speaker 2: Am I overreacting for being insulted? Did I actually go 1164 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,960 Speaker 2: overboard setting her up to live with me? Should I 1165 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,040 Speaker 2: just be grateful that my mom is giving us any 1166 00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:35,480 Speaker 2: money at all and that is the end of that story. No, 1167 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 2: I think you're not overreacting. I think you need to 1168 00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,399 Speaker 2: figure out exactly how much money she does get from 1169 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:45,120 Speaker 2: Social Security and get it given to you, seeing as 1170 00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,040 Speaker 2: you have a legal guardianship over her. Now. I don't 1171 00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:49,960 Speaker 2: think it was too far to take her out of 1172 00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,759 Speaker 2: the mold pit that she was living in, and a 1173 00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:57,520 Speaker 2: thousand dollars for like new bedroom, set up, new clothes, 1174 00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:01,399 Speaker 2: new necessities. Seems like a perfectly reasonable amount of money 1175 00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:01,960 Speaker 2: for a child. 1176 00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:04,279 Speaker 3: And that's the end of this story. We're gonna go 1177 00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:05,160 Speaker 3: on to the next one. 1178 00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,560 Speaker 2: Hey, it's Dakota, your favorite rat brain host here, and 1179 00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,959 Speaker 2: we're gonna get back to the stories soon. But here's 1180 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,040 Speaker 2: three minutes of ads from our sponsors. 1181 00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,200 Speaker 5: I needed to cut off my mother, but I still 1182 00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:16,759 Speaker 5: miss her. 1183 00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,080 Speaker 2: Oh that sounds sad. 1184 00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:23,000 Speaker 5: And we have a trigger warning for verbal mistreatment. I 1185 00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:26,319 Speaker 5: twenty four female and my mom forty three female, have 1186 00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:30,760 Speaker 5: always had what you would call a strained relationship. Before 1187 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,080 Speaker 5: I get into some background, I just want to say 1188 00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:36,720 Speaker 5: that I do love my mom and always will because 1189 00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:38,759 Speaker 5: of her actions. At this point in time, I am 1190 00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:42,879 Speaker 5: loving her from afar and we are very little too 1191 00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:47,480 Speaker 5: no contact by my choice. This decision did not come 1192 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:52,040 Speaker 5: easily and it has been emotionally exhausting. I still carry 1193 00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,759 Speaker 5: a lot of mixed feelings about it. By the way, 1194 00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:58,759 Speaker 5: this comes from Fickle Bookkeeper eighty three. And if you 1195 00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,520 Speaker 5: want to make your own story, go to the r slash. Okay, storytime, 1196 00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,360 Speaker 5: supread it. I'm Carly, I'm Dakota, and we're here to 1197 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,600 Speaker 5: give good advice. Goofiy. We don't have all the answers, 1198 00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,080 Speaker 5: we really know what we would do, so let us 1199 00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,440 Speaker 5: know what you would do in the comments, as OPI says, 1200 00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:15,279 Speaker 5: some background. My mom raised my three brothers and me 1201 00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,560 Speaker 5: as a single mom. She did always take care of us, 1202 00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:22,120 Speaker 5: but when it came to me, she is harmful. She 1203 00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,160 Speaker 5: constantly threw it in my face that my father was 1204 00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:29,200 Speaker 5: not around, saying things like I didn't have to keep you, 1205 00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:32,320 Speaker 5: but I did, and I could have given you up 1206 00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,200 Speaker 5: to the state like my mom did to me. She 1207 00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,880 Speaker 5: also told me your father didn't want you, but I 1208 00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:42,480 Speaker 5: kept you, and you disrespect me whenever we argued. 1209 00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:48,000 Speaker 2: So, yeah, that's super bad. Yeah that is that's terrible, 1210 00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,640 Speaker 2: big red alert bad parenting town. 1211 00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:56,840 Speaker 5: Oh sad story. Those words stuck with me far longer 1212 00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:00,240 Speaker 5: than she ever acknowledged. She also said things like if 1213 00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,200 Speaker 5: you weren't so fat, you'd have clothes to wear while 1214 00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,120 Speaker 5: I sat on my bedroom floor crying because I couldn't 1215 00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:10,160 Speaker 5: find an outfit. Other comments included you have no friends 1216 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,160 Speaker 5: because you're such a witch, and you will never find 1217 00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,800 Speaker 5: someone to love you because you don't take care of yourself. 1218 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,000 Speaker 5: On top of that, I was expected to clean the 1219 00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,560 Speaker 5: entire house, her room, and make her bed. I took 1220 00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:27,200 Speaker 5: care of all the animals, including cleaning cages, letting the dogs, out, 1221 00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:31,400 Speaker 5: feeding them, grooming the cats, and scooping letterboxes. I also 1222 00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,280 Speaker 5: cooked meals, made sure she ate, and made sure she 1223 00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,560 Speaker 5: had a cold drink before she went to bed. After 1224 00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:41,240 Speaker 5: I graduated high school, she guilt tripped me into not 1225 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,080 Speaker 5: going to college so I could get a job and 1226 00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:47,280 Speaker 5: help pay the bills. Once I did get a job, 1227 00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:51,240 Speaker 5: she took almost my entire paycheck except for twenty to 1228 00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:55,400 Speaker 5: forty dollars to pay bills. She used my money to 1229 00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:58,440 Speaker 5: fill her tank and buy herself food that I was 1230 00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:03,320 Speaker 5: not allowed to touch. I put paybills in quotes because 1231 00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,640 Speaker 5: after she put the utilities in my name, she let 1232 00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:12,080 Speaker 5: them rack up to over three thousand dollars. That debt 1233 00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:16,080 Speaker 5: is now in collections and is destroying my credit score. 1234 00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,320 Speaker 5: When I decided to move out at age twenty two, 1235 00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,919 Speaker 5: she completely flipped. She accused me of turning my back 1236 00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,800 Speaker 5: on her and asked how she was supposed to pay 1237 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,600 Speaker 5: the bills without me. She told me I would fail, 1238 00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:32,240 Speaker 5: end up homeless, and come crawling back within a year. 1239 00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,480 Speaker 2: It's like you're gonna fail. I made sure of it. 1240 00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:36,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1241 00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,280 Speaker 5: She even said she hoped the place I moved into 1242 00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:44,880 Speaker 5: would burn down with me inside. Well, that's that's pretty mean. 1243 00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,160 Speaker 5: That's a pretty mean thing to say. I would agree, 1244 00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,600 Speaker 5: mickey mouse, that's a pretty pretty pretty bad thing. That 1245 00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,960 Speaker 5: moment solidified just how little regard she had for my 1246 00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:59,160 Speaker 5: well being. After I moved out, she constantly texted me 1247 00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:02,080 Speaker 5: to braate me or ask me for money. She would 1248 01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:04,480 Speaker 5: tell me her life was falling apoor and that was 1249 01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:09,080 Speaker 5: my fault because I abandoned her. Every message left me 1250 01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:12,760 Speaker 5: feeling guilty and anxious. I never knew if answering would 1251 01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:16,640 Speaker 5: make things better or worse. Recently, she got evicted from 1252 01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:20,120 Speaker 5: her apartment due to back rent. Before that happened, I 1253 01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:23,760 Speaker 5: sent her easy job listings and cheaper apartments to try 1254 01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,560 Speaker 5: to help her get back on her feet. Instead of 1255 01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,360 Speaker 5: following through, she kept saying she was going to be homeless. 1256 01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,840 Speaker 5: She repeatedly asked if she and her two dogs could 1257 01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:37,280 Speaker 5: move into my spare bedroom or office for free. I 1258 01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,400 Speaker 5: know that if I let her move in, she would 1259 01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:42,800 Speaker 5: not respect any boundaries. It would turn into exactly what 1260 01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:46,400 Speaker 5: it was like when I lived with her before. I 1261 01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,280 Speaker 5: truly believe she would never leave once she moved in. 1262 01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:53,040 Speaker 5: Even knowing all of this, I still feel incredibly guilty 1263 01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:56,440 Speaker 5: for saying no. She recently messaged me saying that she 1264 01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,920 Speaker 5: and her two dogs were still living out of a 1265 01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:02,560 Speaker 5: U haul and asked me for money. The problem is 1266 01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:06,000 Speaker 5: that she has lied and manipulated me so many times 1267 01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,080 Speaker 5: in the past that I do not know if I 1268 01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:11,200 Speaker 5: believe her. I feel torn between wanting to help and 1269 01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:15,200 Speaker 5: wanting to protect myself. That inner conflict has not gone away. 1270 01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:16,959 Speaker 5: Am I the a whole? 1271 01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,840 Speaker 2: Just a mind What a mind melter to be in 1272 01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:23,760 Speaker 2: to even question if you're the a hole in this situation, 1273 01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:26,600 Speaker 2: I would just quote her back what she would say 1274 01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:29,520 Speaker 2: to you. I'd be like, that's crazy. I sure hope 1275 01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:32,400 Speaker 2: your U haul doesn't burn down with you inside it. 1276 01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:33,760 Speaker 2: That would be a tragedy. 1277 01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,479 Speaker 5: We're like, Wow, I thought I was gonna fail within 1278 01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:40,120 Speaker 5: a year, but yeah, hmmmm. 1279 01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:43,760 Speaker 2: It looks like the shoes on the other foot though, huh. Edit. 1280 01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:46,400 Speaker 5: My father and I now have a great relationship. He 1281 01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,920 Speaker 5: officiated my marriage is there for me. Ann has become 1282 01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,240 Speaker 5: an amazing father in my life. Learning the truth about 1283 01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:56,400 Speaker 5: that relationship changed how I see my child way. 1284 01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,240 Speaker 2: At least your dad's pulled up right. 1285 01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:00,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, that sounds real good. 1286 01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:01,320 Speaker 1: Update. 1287 01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:05,320 Speaker 5: It's been almost a year since I originally made this post. 1288 01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:06,720 Speaker 2: Okay, oh no. 1289 01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:09,440 Speaker 5: I ended up letting my mom stay with me for 1290 01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:13,720 Speaker 5: a short time and it was a huge mistake. Ah, 1291 01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:17,040 Speaker 5: things went exactly as I feared they would in the end, 1292 01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:20,120 Speaker 5: she almost got me kicked out of my apartment. We 1293 01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:26,360 Speaker 5: are now fully no contact. She blocked me because, according 1294 01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:29,200 Speaker 5: to her, it hurt too badly to see my posts 1295 01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:31,080 Speaker 5: and not be able to say hi or have me 1296 01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:34,920 Speaker 5: say hi back. I've since moved, she does not have 1297 01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:38,120 Speaker 5: my current address, and we have not spoken since March 1298 01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:41,120 Speaker 5: or April of this year. I will be honest and 1299 01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:44,160 Speaker 5: say it has been incredibly hard not to reach out. 1300 01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:48,000 Speaker 5: I know I focused a lot on the bad things before, 1301 01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:51,960 Speaker 5: but we did have good times too. She raised me, 1302 01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,440 Speaker 5: and for a long time I thought I did not 1303 01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:58,280 Speaker 5: have my dad because of circumstances I could not control. 1304 01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:01,720 Speaker 5: I now know that was her doing, but I still 1305 01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:02,160 Speaker 5: love her. 1306 01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:06,280 Speaker 2: Wow, you are such a sweetie. Popeedie. 1307 01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:10,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, I missed the version of her that exists in 1308 01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:14,280 Speaker 5: my good memories. About a week ago, my coworker casually 1309 01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:17,600 Speaker 5: mentioned that she saw my mom. We live in a 1310 01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,600 Speaker 5: small town, and I look almost exactly like her, so 1311 01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:25,160 Speaker 5: people make the connection easily. I immediately started crying. I 1312 01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:29,160 Speaker 5: had spent months not knowing if she was alive, still homeless, 1313 01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:32,440 Speaker 5: or something worse. There's just a little bit left. But 1314 01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,520 Speaker 5: I can't imagine how hard that is. 1315 01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:38,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you were parentified, I think really early on. 1316 01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:39,840 Speaker 2: Or it's like you were made to feel like you 1317 01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:43,440 Speaker 2: were responsible for her when it's really the other way around. Yeah, 1318 01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:45,600 Speaker 2: And it sucks to be in a position where, like, 1319 01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,280 Speaker 2: you know, you have those thoughts hanging over you like 1320 01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:51,560 Speaker 2: a like a cloud. But you know, I think the 1321 01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:53,440 Speaker 2: only thing that you can really hang on to is 1322 01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:58,080 Speaker 2: just like knowing it's not your fault and that there's 1323 01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:01,800 Speaker 2: nothing that you could have really done to change any 1324 01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:05,680 Speaker 2: of it. You're ma's a bad apple. You can't help 1325 01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:09,600 Speaker 2: the bad apple, unless unless the bad apple wants help. 1326 01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:11,080 Speaker 2: But I don't think she does. 1327 01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:15,160 Speaker 5: My coworker told me my mom looked good. Was managing 1328 01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:18,680 Speaker 5: at a local clothing store and look health and looked healthy. 1329 01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,520 Speaker 5: I did not realize how badly I needed to hear 1330 01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:24,560 Speaker 5: that she was okay until I heard it. I did 1331 01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:27,760 Speaker 5: not realize how much I missed her until someone talked 1332 01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:32,400 Speaker 5: about her. I started bawling uncontrollably, and even leaving work, 1333 01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,200 Speaker 5: I had to fight the urge to drive to her 1334 01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:38,320 Speaker 5: job just to see if she was there. At home 1335 01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,360 Speaker 5: and in my personal life, I'm surrounded by people who 1336 01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:44,080 Speaker 5: dislike her because of what she did to me. I 1337 01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,720 Speaker 5: have never really had anyone just talk to me about 1338 01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:50,640 Speaker 5: how she is doing. Hearing that small update opened wounds 1339 01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:54,080 Speaker 5: I thought were starting to heal. So here's the advice 1340 01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:57,640 Speaker 5: I need. Should I go see her? If not, how 1341 01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,600 Speaker 5: do I stop myself from going to see her? I 1342 01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:04,880 Speaker 5: cannot seem to stop this overwhelming feeling of longing towards her, 1343 01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:08,320 Speaker 5: and it is tearing me up inside. We have some 1344 01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,800 Speaker 5: comments come at one. No matter what, she's your mom, 1345 01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:15,080 Speaker 5: you have that connection. You are the mature one. She 1346 01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:17,800 Speaker 5: is a person who I would guess has lots of 1347 01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:21,640 Speaker 5: mental issues manifested through hurting the one she loves and 1348 01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:24,400 Speaker 5: who love her. There may be a way working through 1349 01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:28,080 Speaker 5: friends to help in this matter without revealing your address 1350 01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:31,320 Speaker 5: or any contact info or other socials to her. Set 1351 01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:34,280 Speaker 5: up a meeting at a neutral place, not lunch or 1352 01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:38,280 Speaker 5: food centric, someplace easy to exit if it goes wrong, 1353 01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:42,360 Speaker 5: like a coffee shop. The intermediary should give her the 1354 01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:46,320 Speaker 5: parameters of the meeting, like no yelling, no asking for anything, 1355 01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:49,320 Speaker 5: and other things you want to include that goes for 1356 01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:52,280 Speaker 5: you too. Keep it short. If it goes well, do 1357 01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:55,440 Speaker 5: another one, maybe a bit longer. Try this for a 1358 01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:59,560 Speaker 5: while and perhaps it will alleviate any guilt unwarranted. But 1359 01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:03,040 Speaker 5: you're good person, so feel guilty you have and just 1360 01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:06,880 Speaker 5: perhaps can let the long overdo healing begin. Wishing you 1361 01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,919 Speaker 5: all the best. I would personally just say to give 1362 01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:12,360 Speaker 5: it more time because it's to me it would seem 1363 01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:14,800 Speaker 5: like she probably just started this job if like this 1364 01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:17,120 Speaker 5: is the first time that someone's bringing up like, hey, 1365 01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:21,840 Speaker 5: I start your mom in our town like sometime, because like, unfortunately, 1366 01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:24,520 Speaker 5: that shock could also bump your mom back to a 1367 01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:27,480 Speaker 5: bad Please yeah, like giving her time to settle in 1368 01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:28,840 Speaker 5: and then doing that 1369 01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:30,800 Speaker 3: And that's the end of the story.