1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Let's get right into lines and Tynes, I'm Spencer. My 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: buddy Wes Logan from the bass Master Elites joins us, 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: you haven't really had anything going on this month. 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's been. 5 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 3: It's been real docile, not a whole lot going on. 6 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 3: Been at home, just sitting around, not doing anything. 7 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: All right, Can we actually talk about the boat accident 8 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: because I've heard you on different podcasts and social posts 9 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff, and you were definitely 10 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 1: doing the pr thing where you were like, you know, 11 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,159 Speaker 1: you were giving a little bit away, but you were 12 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: also holding some things back. 13 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 4: So tell me exactly what happened. 14 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 3: Se Yeah, basically, so in a short, long story short, 15 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna make it short, but basically, I was 16 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 3: running from one spot to the other on Champlain the 17 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 3: day two morning, around nine am, and I go to 18 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 3: take off, and I mean the waves aren't big. They're 19 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 3: probably foot and a half maybe two footers on, which 20 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,599 Speaker 3: is not anything crazy up north. And I take off 21 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 3: and I'm running maybe fifty fifty two, but I've got 22 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 3: my nose down and the waves are just far enough 23 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 3: or just close enough that they're kind of eating me 24 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 3: up a little bit. So I just picked the nose 25 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 3: up a little bit, which, in turn, if you've ever 26 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 3: driven a boat, lets the boat speed up a little bit. 27 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 3: So I'm running probably fifty eight, maybe sixty, just kind 28 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,559 Speaker 3: of cruising across top the waves. And I got hammered 29 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 3: a little bit for going, you know, ninety five in 30 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 3: those conditions whatever. My boat won't even go close to 31 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 3: what people think it will speed wise. But so I'm 32 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 3: just I had kind of gotten on top of the 33 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 3: waves just just because, I mean, it's a smoother ride 34 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 3: like you're not. I mean, I know how to drive 35 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 3: above and driving a boat longer than I've been driving 36 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 3: a vehicle. And all I can remember is I'm bouncing 37 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:34,639 Speaker 3: across the top of those waves, and all of a sudden, 38 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 3: I come off of one and I hit the other one, 39 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 3: and my boat, the nose of my boat just kicks 40 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 3: straight up, and I don't really know what happened, Like 41 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 3: I obviously I felt something, and I knew I've been 42 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 3: driving that boat for five years. I mean, I've only 43 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 3: been in that boat since I've been on the Elites, 44 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 3: and I knew something happened that wasn't supposed to, and 45 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 3: I knew I was going to have a hard impact 46 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 3: when I hit the water, but I mean, I'm just 47 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 3: bracing for a hard hit and just to keep on rolling. 48 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 3: And obviously when the boat hits the water, for whoever 49 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 3: seeing the video, it obviously takes a one to eighty 50 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 3: and throws me around a good bit. And at some 51 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 3: point in time between that the nose of the boat 52 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 3: going airborne and me hitting the water, the engine breaks 53 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 3: loose from the back of the boat, and that's where 54 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 3: all the throwing around and the boat getting spun around 55 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 3: obviously comes from. A head gets you know, thrown into 56 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 3: the side of the gun or two or three times. 57 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 3: Bust my head, bust my chin, bust all my teeth 58 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 3: on the bottom left side of my you know, jaw, 59 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 3: stuff like that, a lot of blood kind of kind 60 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 3: of threw it, didn't knock me out, kind of threw 61 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 3: me for a loop for a minute. In the video, 62 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 3: I take my life jacket off. But I think I 63 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 3: think that was just habit of me standing up like 64 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 3: it was just everybody was bashing me about that too. 65 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 3: I'm like, man, I did that unconsciously, Like I didn't 66 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 3: even realize I did it. 67 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 1: I mean, at some point when I looked at the video, 68 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: you looked like you were, I mean literally in a 69 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: fight with Mike Tyson. You got punched right in the 70 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: mouth in the square. So then you're like probably days 71 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: you seeing stars. 72 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 3: So I never, like I said, I never got knocked out. 73 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 3: I've never I never saw stars. And playing football in 74 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 3: high school, like dude, I got rocked like so many times, 75 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 3: like hit way harder than that. 76 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 2: But what I didn't. 77 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 3: Get like shook up, and I never like lost my 78 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 3: train of thought what I needed to do. But I 79 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 3: can remember in the video when I stand up and 80 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 3: that first you know, instance of me grabbing my head. 81 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 3: I can remember like the end of the section, last 82 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:25,839 Speaker 3: of your finger is what I could feel. 83 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,839 Speaker 2: Like my head busted open. I'm like, ah, that ain't good. 84 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 2: And that's it. 85 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 3: Like when I felt that I saw the engine about 86 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 3: the same time gone, I took my life. I got off, 87 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 3: grabbed my phone, was trying to wipe it off from 88 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 3: the water. 89 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: Thank god. 90 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 3: I don't know how my phone stayed in the boat, 91 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 3: Like it just sits in the cup holder beside me, 92 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 3: like it's not attached to anything. 93 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 4: Down your throttle. 94 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, so the skeeter has as we have a cup holder, 95 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 3: like to the right of the seat, like right beside 96 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 3: the gear shift, and I mean it's just sitting there. 97 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 4: If you were on the left side, that thing's gone though. 98 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely the way the boat got thrown and 99 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 3: maybe that's what saved at the boat getting thrown to 100 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 3: the right kept it, you know, against the tea, the seat. 101 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 4: It's got a lot of things that it kind of 102 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 4: has to get through. 103 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 2: But it's crazy. 104 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 3: Like my phone has no case on it, no nothing, 105 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 3: and it was sitting in water in the cup hoolder. 106 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 3: I just grabbed it, started wiping it off, uh, started 107 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 3: making the phone calls. But but I never, like I said, 108 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 3: I never really lost my Like I was thinking perfectly 109 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 3: clear and even talking to Lisa later, talking to her, 110 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 3: everybody I talked here, they're like you were talking normally, 111 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 3: like pretty like level headed of what's going on, what we. 112 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 2: Need to do, all that stuff. But the worst go ahead. 113 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what's crazy was watching the video of 114 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: the accident and then Riley, your wife who puts up 115 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,799 Speaker 1: a lot of your social media stuff, shares a video 116 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: of you and the ambulance. Those are two completely different 117 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: people because in the boat, like you just got into 118 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: an accident, and it it looks gnarly. 119 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 4: Yah, But when you're in the ambulance, I mean you 120 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 4: look like you just like you. 121 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: Got lit up, like I got drugged down the highway, 122 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: Like the blood was all. 123 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 4: Just coming from your head, like it was that bad. Yeah. 124 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 3: My chin, my head were the worst. My chin was 125 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 3: bleeding a lot worse than I than I really realized. 126 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 3: And I didn't until right before they got to pick 127 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 3: me up. I didn't even realize my chin had been 128 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 3: busted open. I guess everything else was kind of The 129 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 3: head was obviously the worst part, but in a non 130 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 3: graphic way. Every time I would take that rag off 131 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 3: my head, it would shoot across the deck of my boat, 132 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 3: like just I could not get. 133 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 2: It to stall. 134 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 4: How long until somebody came out and got you? 135 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 2: An hour? Wow, I was there for an hour. And 136 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 2: it's not anybody's fault. 137 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 4: Because I just trying to explain where you're at. 138 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 3: I was trying to figure out to get everybody realized 139 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,799 Speaker 3: where I was at. And initially the only really boat 140 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 3: that we had there was the service crew boat, the 141 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 3: Texas Boat world Boat, and there was a little bit 142 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 3: of translation issue, like nobody realized it was an accident. 143 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 3: They thought I'd broke down, so they were like, there 144 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 3: wasn't a sense of urgency. 145 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 4: Like we'll get out there to him. 146 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,559 Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden, Riley gets over there 147 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 3: and shows them I'd sent her a picture of my head, 148 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 3: and it like everybody's gears changed, like everybody got into 149 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 3: gear and they got out there to me. 150 00:05:58,040 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 4: But well, then I heard that. 151 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: You had hit a floating boat dock, like one of 152 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: the platforms. 153 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, so what what everybody thinks happened is when when 154 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 3: I hit that final wave and like I was telling you, 155 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 3: my boat kicked up like I thought it wasn't supposed 156 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 3: to Like in my mind, I don't think it was 157 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 3: supposed to do that. From what they found the floating 158 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 3: platform they found, it looked like that I had hit 159 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 3: it long ways and like split the two it was 160 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 3: two by six's and had split them kind of into 161 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 3: a V. 162 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 2: Like basically I ramped it. 163 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: Because I was hoping that they were going to have 164 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: a picture of the boat ramp or the platform and 165 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: all that. 166 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 2: Kind of stuff. 167 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 3: I haven't seen it. They said that they went and 168 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 3: got it. But when you got to remember when all 169 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 3: this is going down. I'm getting sewn up in the hospital, 170 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 3: like just trying to I'm like, I can remember my 171 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 3: head getting like burnt because they're trying to burn the 172 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 3: blood vessel because it won't quit bleeding. 173 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: You're not out there doing the first forty eight. Like, 174 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: let me piece things together. 175 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 3: I'm just worried about I'm talking to I'm talking to 176 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 3: Pa Jack right there. Just I'm like, buddy, you gotta 177 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 3: get me back on the water, like I gotta, I 178 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 3: got stuff I got to do. 179 00:06:59,320 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 5: Well. 180 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 4: I'm happy good. 181 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: You know, obviously I was trying to trade some text 182 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: message with you and call you in all that kind 183 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: of stuff. But I also knew, like what I was 184 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: seeing on social media, I'm late. He's got bigger fish 185 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: to fry. 186 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 5: It was. 187 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 2: It was a whirlwind of three or four days. 188 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: Well, congrats, you've sold more leashes for DD twenty six 189 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: than probably anybody ever responsible in bass fishing. 190 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 191 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 3: So, actually Precision SNAr is who owns the leash. Okay, 192 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 3: DD twenty six works with Precisions Soar and helps them 193 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 3: sell some stuff, But the actual company that sells the 194 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 3: leash is Precision Soar. And I told I'm buddies with 195 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 3: the guy, because I've had one on my boat for 196 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 3: like five years, but you never, like I put one 197 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 3: on every time I get a new boat, but you 198 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 3: never think like it's just I'm gonna put this on 199 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 3: because I've had it on, Like you never think you're 200 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 3: gonna need it until you need it, obviously, but I 201 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 3: definitely uh looking at how the engine come off, and 202 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 3: that was That's another thing. The only thing that was 203 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 3: holding that engine to my boat was one steering cable and. 204 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 4: That leash and that crazy. 205 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 3: And what a lot of people don't understand is in 206 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 3: an insurance situation, if you don't have the that you 207 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 3: don't get anything. You have to recover that for they 208 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 3: ever will do anything. And I promise you had one 209 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty foot of water, You're not getting that 210 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 3: one back. 211 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 4: So so I bless that steering cable. 212 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure. 213 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: But no, my phone blew up. People were like, hey, 214 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: do you see what happened? 215 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 4: West? 216 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: And I'm like yeah, And obviously because of this podcast, 217 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: they were asking me like if you. 218 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 4: Talk to him, what's the deal? 219 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: And I go, the man's in the hospital, Like I'll yeah, 220 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: I'll connect with him. 221 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 4: I don't. 222 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: I don't think they'll. I think the first of the 223 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: thing from his mind is let me call Spencer and 224 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 1: just talk to him real quick. But I was getting 225 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: phone calls from people and they're like, dude, I'm buying 226 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: a leash today, And then they were sending me pictures 227 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: of my leash just showed up. 228 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 4: And then they're putting it on their boat and I 229 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 4: don't have one on mine. 230 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would really as a as a buddy, I 231 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 3: would really rather especially running around here, like I mean, 232 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 3: I run around here, and I didn't buy it for 233 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 3: I thought I was gonna hit something in the middle 234 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 3: of the light, like i'd buy all right, I got 235 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 3: it because I run some sketchy stuff shallow. 236 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, because that's just the way I fish. 237 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 3: And you never think about like you're gonna hit it 238 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 3: out in the middle of basically the ocean. But and 239 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 3: thinking back on it, like everybody couldn't have been a 240 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 3: floating platform. Well, I talked to five different anglers that 241 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 3: morning that ran by one and they were all different 242 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 3: ones in different areas of the lake. Yeah, Like people 243 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 3: don't realize how bad that tropical storm came through that 244 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 3: that day. 245 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: They canceled there's a lot of people don't even realize 246 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: that was what. 247 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 3: It was incredible, how bad the wind was, the weather, 248 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 3: it was literally I've been in a hurricane when it 249 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 3: hit in Florida and it was practically the same thing. 250 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 3: It was pretty sketchy, Like I thought our camper was 251 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 3: gonna flip over. 252 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 2: It was. It was really bad, but it was just 253 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 2: a freak thing. But like I've told everybody. 254 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 4: If dude, you went back and fished, had. 255 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 2: To, man, you got no choice. 256 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: So how many fish did you have in the live 257 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,359 Speaker 1: one four? You had four, so you needed five really. 258 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And what people don't understand about Champlaine is like 259 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 3: three ounces is like five or ten places. 260 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 2: Sure, like it's huge. 261 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 3: And I knew, like even if I could go back 262 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 3: out there and catch well just a keeper, like it's 263 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 3: gonna give me, you know, saving because I had a 264 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 3: really good first day and I thought, if I could 265 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 3: catch seventeen the second day, I was in the cut 266 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 3: hands down, it wasn't even gonna be no question. And 267 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 3: to get be able to everything line up and then 268 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 3: get me back out there, and and Texas Boat World 269 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 3: have that boat allowed me to go back out there, 270 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 3: and I just I knew I had one place I 271 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 3: could go to. I didn't think they would be big, 272 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 3: but I had one place pretty close. I thought I 273 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 3: could get a bite, and I ran straight to it, 274 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 3: and I put the troull motor down in my third 275 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 3: cast called a three pounter, so like, so there's five, 276 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 3: there's my five, and I'll be honest, no, no, I 277 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 3: caught two, but they weren't. I'm gonna be honest with you. 278 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 3: Once I caught that first one and got five, of 279 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 3: the adrenaline was completely gone. Huh, and I was I 280 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 3: was struggling pretty bad. 281 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 282 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 3: I was kind of like not there for the next hour, 283 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 3: and I was like, I got to get back to 284 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 3: the ramp, like. 285 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 2: I'm not doing good. I'm dizzy, like my head's killing me. 286 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 4: How did you finish that day, sixtieth? How did you 287 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 4: finished for the tournament? 288 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 2: I finished it. 289 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 3: I finished the tournament, Okay, I had fifteen fourteen is 290 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 3: what I ended up having. The fish was actually two fourteen, 291 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 3: but I mean I caught it. The three founder were 292 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 3: going back and looking at the points it gained me 293 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 3: twenty seven points. I would have finished in eighty seventh, 294 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 3: finished in sixtieth and with the way everything played out 295 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 3: at Saint. 296 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 2: Lawrence, I would have tied. 297 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 3: If I hadn't went out there and caught that fish, 298 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 3: I would have been tied for the final spot in 299 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 3: the Classic cut. 300 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 2: And we don't know if I do. We haven't done 301 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 2: the numbers on. 302 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 3: The tiebreaker yet, obviously, but still, the amount of how 303 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 3: important that two fourteen was was incredible. 304 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: And you know, I was obviously, with us being friends, 305 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: I obviously speak really highly about you to everybody, but 306 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: I immediately said, that's the most badass student fishing. Yeah, and 307 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: I know you're not gonna I know you're going to 308 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: take that allay. 309 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 3: That's nice to say, I mean, but like I was 310 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 3: on the podcast from Mercer the next morning or the 311 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 3: two days after, and he was like, Man, why'd you 312 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 3: like you so toub? I was like, Man, I didn't 313 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 3: do it for me, like I did it for like 314 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 3: my sponsors, Riley, my parents, like you, like all the 315 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 3: support from people that I know how important that Classic 316 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 3: is to get to. From a from a support standpoint, 317 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 3: from a you know, a sponsorship standpoint, Well do we've 318 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 3: worked all year for this and we're gonna let this 319 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 3: kind of keep us down? 320 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 5: No? 321 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: Man, I ain't not yetitude because if you think about 322 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: like somebody who goes to work. Let's say just somebody 323 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: goes to work, they have a freak accident, right, they 324 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 1: get workman's comp they're off for the day. 325 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't do that. No, we don't get well. 326 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 3: I mean, the bass can't just give me the twenty 327 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 3: seven points. 328 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 2: They're like, oh, well, you can't go back out there. 329 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 2: We'll give you. 330 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 1: But that's why you're such a badass when it comes 331 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: to getting back out in the water. Because there's plenty 332 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: of people in other professional sports. Like when you hear 333 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: about a guy having turf toe and he can't play 334 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: this Sunday. Yeah, you sit there and you're like, yeah, 335 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: but Wes Logan can smash his face into the gunnel 336 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: of a boat, go to the hospital. 337 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 4: Get stitches, jack up his entire face, his head still 338 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 4: still jack up. 339 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 1: I mean, and that's lasting. I mean, this is this 340 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: is a stark reminder of like the season's over. So 341 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: you did all these things to get one fish. That's 342 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: all you needed was two pounds fourteen ounces, get you 343 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: twenty seven points, put you in a better situation. There's 344 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: a lot of guys that would have been like, I'm 345 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: just done. I'm not even thinking about what the outcome 346 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: campassiblely be. 347 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 348 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 3: I mean I had some really good buddies that called 349 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 3: me and were checking on me out because obviously nobody 350 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 3: knew what happened, like till after weigh in and they 351 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 3: come over to the camper and they're like. 352 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 4: There ain't no way in hell I would have went 353 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 4: back out there. 354 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 3: I'm like, well, dude, looking at all the circumstances, like, 355 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 3: how could you not If you're a competitor and you 356 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 3: really like your heart and souls in this, why would 357 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 3: you not go back out there? 358 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 2: Like the job's not finished. 359 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: I do kind of love the idea that you're in 360 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: the middle of nowhere in New York and you're like, well, 361 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: I'm here, so I guess I might as well fish. 362 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like, I mean, what was I gonna do? 363 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 3: Just go sit around? Like if I if I could 364 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 3: stand up. I said a quote to somebody I think 365 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 3: it was on I don't remember what it was on, 366 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 3: but like I think it came from like growing up 367 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 3: in football and my dad coaching me and my football coaches, 368 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 3: like if you're not dead on the field, get up, 369 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 3: that's right, And that was another like, if you're not dead, 370 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 3: go back out there and fish like you owe it 371 00:13:58,559 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 3: to everybody else. 372 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: So obviously you to find a clip of whoever said that, 373 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: and you're gonna have to make that a big part 374 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,719 Speaker 1: of your twenty twenty five campaign because you are you're 375 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: now the poster child for bad things happening on. 376 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 4: The water, but also the grit and. 377 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: The resiliency for you to get back out there and 378 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 1: continue to compete, and not only that, people do forget 379 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: kind of. 380 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 4: There was another tournament after that, immediately right into it. 381 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: I mean, so you had no break, no downtime, nothing 382 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: to get yourself healthy, and then. 383 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 4: You got to roll into that. 384 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we started practice that next Tuesday, But like 385 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 3: so Saturday was obviously the Sunday the day after that, 386 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 3: I went and got on FS one when Mercer went 387 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 3: and worked Yamaha booth. All at this time trying to 388 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 3: figure out how I'm gonna get a boat for Saint 389 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 3: Lawrence and dealing with the insurance companies and all that, 390 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 3: which is a whole different stuffy. 391 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 4: Bucks Island was so good, do they were? 392 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 2: Bucks Island was good. 393 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 3: Everybody that was a part of it, like I would 394 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 3: never have been in the situation I was without all 395 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 3: the help from it, like Bucks is on Texas Boat World, 396 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 3: Skeeter Yamaha, like everybody. 397 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: If I didn't think that you'd feel bad getting caught 398 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: dead in the Phoenix, I would have run. 399 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 4: My boat up for you. 400 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 3: And you have no idea how many people said I 401 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 3: will be that, I will drive all night to bring. 402 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 2: You my boat. And I'm like, man, we can we 403 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 2: can handle it. We got it. 404 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 3: We got I got a lot of people up here 405 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 3: that are taking care of me. But it uh that 406 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 3: that Saint Lawrence week was was very trying, just not 407 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 3: even really. 408 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 2: I mean I was. 409 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 3: I mean I told her, I said, I'm just gonna 410 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 3: practice like light, I'll just chill out. 411 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 2: Well obviously that did. 412 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 3: I got out there and it was daylight that she 413 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 3: was like, are you coming in? I'm like, there's three 414 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 3: more hours of daylight. I'm just stay out here. But 415 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 3: just all the external stuff that was going on, and 416 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 3: then had some adversity on day one with the borrowed 417 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 3: boat battery situation. 418 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 2: And I'm like, man, this can't be happening. 419 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 3: And they caught them way better than I thought they 420 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 3: would we dropped it. It kind of got kind of sketchy 421 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 3: right there on the night of day one looking at 422 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 3: the points for day two. But you know, the Good 423 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 3: Lord bless us on day two to go out there 424 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 3: and catch a really good bag. 425 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 2: But not trying to make excuses. 426 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 3: But from that accident, all the way up until Monday, 427 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 3: I've really not had gotten any rest at all because 428 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 3: I wasn't gonna come home because of the MPFL at Saginaw. 429 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 3: Ended up having to drive home twenty hours to pick 430 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 3: up another boat, got to stay home for two days, 431 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 3: get it rid get it way I needed it for Saganaw, 432 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 3: turn around, drove another fourteen hours back up to Saginaw 433 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 3: fish that whole tournament. Finally got home Sunday, late Sunday 434 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 3: night and got in to rest a little bit. The 435 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 3: next you know, the next couple of days we've had here. 436 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: So I just turned the microphone over to Riley and 437 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: she shook her head like I don't want to be 438 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: on this. Riley is your wife, Riley, You're a big 439 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: part of this story though. So when he calls you, 440 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: what does he say to you when the accident. 441 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 2: Happened, I'm hurt, really bad. 442 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 4: And how do you as his wife? 443 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you guys are in your first year of marriage, 444 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: you've been together for a while, but what goes through 445 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: your mind when you hear that. 446 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 5: Well, as a nurse, I'm just like, okay, well I 447 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 5: need to get to him. Where is he? So ask 448 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 5: Hi where he is? He says, he's out in the 449 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 5: middle of the lake. I'm like, okay, well, what's hurt? 450 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 5: He said? My head? I said, do you have something 451 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 5: to put on it? He's like, yeah, I have a rag. 452 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, well we'll figure out. 453 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 4: Covered in grease too, by the way, yeah, but a. 454 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 2: Bunch of eggs. 455 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 5: So then I just knew it was my duty to 456 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 5: try to figure out how to get him back to shore. 457 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: When you see him, when you finally you lay eyes 458 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: on him, it was. 459 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 5: About like I expected, because I knew he was down 460 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 5: playing it a lot, and I just I'm I mean, 461 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 5: being in the profession I'm in, I know, like kids 462 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 5: bleed a lot. Yeah, I mean it was what I expected. 463 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 5: I think everybody else was like freaking out and big eyed. 464 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 3: But dude, when I pulled up to that dot, that 465 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 3: was like fifteen people stand there and it was like 466 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 3: they had seen a goat. 467 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 4: Everybody was just silent. 468 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 3: I was like, God, but I can imagine like coming 469 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 3: in it because when I the worst part about it 470 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 3: was when Jackie came and got me from texta boat 471 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 3: where with his boat. I got in his boat and 472 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 3: drove myself back in like seven minutes, and I couldn't 473 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 3: hold my hand on my head anymore because of the 474 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 3: ways were beating me up so bad. So it was 475 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 3: coming on and off and there was like a blood 476 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 3: tornado around. Oh my god, and everything like I could 477 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 3: see Plattsburgh and everything started getting kind of quiet, and 478 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 3: my head was I was like, I've got to get 479 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 3: to that ramp for I'm about to I'm literally about 480 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 3: to pass out. And I got to the ramp or 481 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 3: the dog and I just remember everybody. I could barely 482 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 3: see people because of all the blood, and they were 483 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 3: just like And then the MT got to hold up me, 484 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 3: and I was like, how long is this gonna take? Oh, 485 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 3: It's gonna be a wow. 486 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: Riley does a lot of your social stuff, probably ninety 487 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: eight percent of it. You did a great job documenting everything. 488 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: I know, I kind of told you that before we 489 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: got into this, but during it too, being able to 490 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: play that stuff out like you're taking video in the ambulance. Well, 491 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: I mean that was the most chaotic scene I think 492 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,959 Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my life. But then you know, 493 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: watching him go back down the ramp and then getting 494 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: back on a boat going out and to compete, like 495 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: you guys played the story out perfect because there were 496 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: so many people that wanted to know. 497 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 4: So kudos to you on that, righty. 498 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 3: She was she was literally the the what held everything together. 499 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 3: She was the calmst she got it was getting people 500 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 3: in line, So shout out to her. Her And I mean, 501 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 3: obviously Lisa called Lisa right off the bat called Lisa, 502 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 3: then called Riley. When I called my dad and got 503 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 3: we were they were all just trying to figure out 504 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 3: how to get to get McGinn or Doug. 505 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 4: Right, yeah, what did Doug say? Doug with Doug kind 506 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 4: of like, I said, what the hell is going on? 507 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 4: I said, he. 508 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 2: Said, I was. 509 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 3: I was when I was caught angel. He's like, hell, 510 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 3: I said, hey, we got a problem. I've wacked blah 511 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 3: blah blah blah. 512 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 4: What hell you mean? 513 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 2: You wreck? 514 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 5: You? 515 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm like I'm fine, I'm fine, I said, I 516 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 3: just need to get a boat out here. To me, 517 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,239 Speaker 3: like I'm busting up a little bit, but I need 518 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 3: to get another boat so I can fish. I ain't 519 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 3: got before. And I just kept telling everybody I've only 520 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 3: got four I can fish. 521 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 2: I'm fine. Just wrap it up and obviously what it 522 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 2: was worse than that. 523 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: But would best not let you go unless the doctor 524 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: said that you were cleared. 525 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 2: Yes, I had to get the PA. What was a PA? 526 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 2: A physician to system. 527 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 3: He had to get on the phone with Lisa and 528 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 3: okay me to be able to go operate a vessel 529 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 3: during tournament. 530 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 4: Out, I have to slide him like fifty bucks, like, dude, 531 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 4: I really need you. 532 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 5: Man. 533 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 4: I didn't. 534 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 3: I didn't give them anything, but dude, they were like 535 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 3: they like missed some of their lunch breaks to get 536 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 3: me going. 537 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 2: And it was, man. 538 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:22,959 Speaker 3: Once I got in there and I kind of explained 539 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 3: to him what was going on, they were like they 540 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 3: kicked it into another gear and it was. It was 541 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 3: pretty incredible. And I basically owe everything to them because 542 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 3: they did. I mean, it was all I couldn't have 543 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 3: done it. 544 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: I'm glad, you're good. I'm glad everything worked out. I mean, 545 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: obviously it was a kaout a couple of weeks, almost 546 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: three weeks for you, and it really probably hasn't slown down. 547 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: I do want to switch gears though, because I want 548 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: to talk about the mpfl's. 549 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 4: Decision and bass Master's decision. 550 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: For forward facing sonar known as FFS as I like 551 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: to call it, after the year that everybody has talked 552 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: about it, for fuck's sake, that is honestly like, finally, 553 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: now we have some information. MLF still hasn't made a 554 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 1: decision yet, but MPFL has decided to ban it completely. 555 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 1: Now this is this is a business move for them, 556 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. This has nothing to do with the 557 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 1: sanctity of fishing and you know what it takes. 558 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 4: To be an angler and all that kind of stuff. 559 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 4: They're doing that move. 560 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: You can tell me if I'm wrong, but they're doing 561 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: that move because they're trying to attract to a different 562 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: fishermen who might have been on bass Master, might have 563 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: been at MLF is discouraged with what's happening in those organizations, 564 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: and they go, look, why don't you come over here, 565 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: we're not doing live scope and then come fish with us. 566 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: Because they were the last one to the sponsorship bowl. 567 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 1: MLF had already secured some sponsorship. Same with Bass. They 568 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: got to do something that separates themselves. I think it's 569 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: a brilliant strategy. 570 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And. 571 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 3: Obviously there was a lot of reasonings going into it, 572 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 3: but I mean it ultimately, at the end of the day, 573 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 3: all the guys at the NFL thought it was their 574 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 3: best business decision move, and you can't knock them for it. 575 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: They they they benefit off of guys like you, Joseph Webster, 576 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: John Cox, Kyle Welcher. They benefit off of pros fishing 577 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: that trail because it gets a lot of eyes on 578 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: their product. 579 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 580 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, So if they can go to like let's say, 581 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 4: the seven. 582 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 1: Guys who are no longer on bass because they didn't qualify, 583 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: and they go, hey, you may not have qualified, you 584 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: might not have liked what was over there. There's a 585 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 1: lot of things that you have to do as an 586 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: angler that you may not love because you're with BASS 587 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: or you're with MLF. Come over here. We're not allowing 588 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 1: Ford facing sonar. We're giving you an opportunity to just 589 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: be an angler. You put five thousand dollars up, you 590 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: can win one hundred grand. It's the same exact set 591 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: up and payout really at the top. 592 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, down the lines a little bit light payout wise, 593 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,719 Speaker 3: but you know, they asked me my opinion, and I 594 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 3: think a couple other guys told them the same thing 595 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 3: is what do you really have to lose from a 596 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 3: And they're nothing to lose, and they do care about 597 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 3: the integrity of it and all that because they kind 598 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 3: of see business wise, like you know, industry wise, kind 599 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 3: of where it's going. And I don't care what people says. 600 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 3: It's not good for the industry, tackle industry. I work 601 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 3: with a bunch of companies tackle wise. Rod wise sales 602 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 3: are not great. Yeah, heartbeats, plastics like like flipping baits, 603 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 3: jig trailers. I mean, I work real close with Zoom, 604 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 3: I have my whole career. It's not good as far 605 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 3: as everything else. Obviously they've come out with a Menno bait, 606 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 3: but all everything else, crank baits, top waters like that's 607 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 3: not buzz bait, spinner baits, that's not happening on even 608 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 3: bait casters. It's not It is not very good. I 609 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 3: don't think people realize how bad it is. But again, 610 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 3: back to the NPFL deal they did Brad Sean, Mike, 611 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 3: you know Paul. They all did what they thought was 612 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 3: the best thing to do for their company. And I 613 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 3: heard Welcher say this, and I respect Welter a lot 614 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 3: because he has a very level headed mind. They didn't 615 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 3: just go out on a whim and make a decision overnight. 616 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 3: This has been thought through, thought through. They have not 617 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 3: put their all their time and effort into these four 618 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 3: years for it to just them to just throw it 619 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 3: away on making one decision. So they have made what 620 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 3: they thought was best. I was gonna I'm gonna fish 621 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 3: with them, whether they kept it took it away, whatever 622 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 3: I really. 623 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 4: Am as an angler, why do you fish with them? 624 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 3: I just really enjoy fishing the trail. For one thing, 625 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 3: I like fishing more. This year I fished more tournaments, obviously, 626 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 3: and I feel like it's made men better angler. But 627 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 3: once I actually got to fish their first tournament, saw 628 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 3: how they did things, saw how they reacted to certain 629 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 3: situations that come up during the year, really impressed me. 630 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 3: How they react to things immediately, they make a decision 631 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 3: right then. Really like that from a leadership standpoint. With them, 632 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 3: just a very enjoyable trail to fish. 633 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of good that the MPFL does. 634 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: I like their decision that they made because I look 635 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: at it from the business side, which is you're attracting 636 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: a different group of people, and if you have the 637 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: opportunity to build off of some of the pros that 638 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 1: like fishing your trail, because you don't have all the 639 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: things that you have to do, there aren't all these 640 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: restrictions and all that. 641 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 4: It just makes sense for guys like you to go 642 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 4: out and fish. 643 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: I will say about Bass's decision, which I think everybody 644 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: pretty much knew that decision was coming down the pike, 645 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: like the rumors had kind of been there one transducer 646 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: mounted on the trolling motor. It can't be the saltwater version. 647 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: You can have fifty five inches of total screens. 648 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:23,239 Speaker 2: You know. 649 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: They're embracing the technology and holding on to it. But 650 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: they also didn't want to go extremely overboard. They couldn't 651 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: have walked away from it. I don't think that would 652 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 1: have been a smart move for Bass to walk away 653 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: from forward facing NPFL has more of an opportunity to 654 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 1: pull people in, and it gives MPFL an opportunity to 655 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: do something that some of bass Master and MLF struggles 656 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: with MLF. Does you know, like the bfls at the 657 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 1: low level all the way to the Toyota. 658 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 4: Series and the invitationals. 659 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 1: MPFL could start to do that and say, hey, for 660 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 1: my guys that want to fish on the weekends, yeah, 661 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: we're going to have an MPFL BFL type of thing. 662 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: But you can't use forward facing. If you start out 663 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: with twenty thirty forty boats, you could maximize that out 664 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: to one hundred and fifty. That gives them a different 665 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: revenue stream. So I think it's smart. 666 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 3: There's some money coming in from a different, different angle 667 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 3: right there, which is obviously what everybody's wanting to get 668 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 3: is more. Everybody wants more money in the whole world. 669 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: But you just say, you hear weekend guys. You know, 670 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: the guys that like to conveniently fish like they have 671 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: no interest in wanting to learn forward facing, And that's cool. 672 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 3: That's more majority of guys that do all the comment 673 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 3: on the social media is your weekend guys. I mean 674 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 3: they're you know, I get really tired of hearing or 675 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 3: reading it, not really hearing. 676 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 4: About ffs for fux sake. 677 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 2: I mean that's in the middle of it. 678 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 3: But yeah, the the best decision, like kind of obviously 679 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 3: knew that's kind of what it was going to be. 680 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 3: What kind of is a thorn in my side about 681 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 3: it is they it took twelve months and a committee 682 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 3: to come up with that. Like, did we have this 683 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 3: decision made six months ago? 684 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: I feel like we did because everybody everybody pretty much 685 00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: heard about it, right, you know. 686 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 4: I mean this exactly what happened. 687 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 3: Like what they announced was what the rumors were six 688 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 3: months ago. So I don't really understand the whole committee deal. 689 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 3: And that's not my call. I'm not going to make 690 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 3: an opinion on it. I just don't really understand it 691 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 3: why it took so long just to come up with that. 692 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 3: But you know, and what's kind of weird is the 693 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 3: last thing we all heard as a group of anglers 694 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 3: was we kind of had a mutual agreement that half 695 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 3: and half is what the majority of every angler wanted, 696 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 3: whether they loved liscope hated it, Like we were all 697 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 3: mutually agreeing, which is almost impossible to do with bass fisherman. 698 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 3: We had almost mutually agreed like half and half would 699 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 3: be perfect because if you want a true angler of 700 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 3: the year at the end of the year. Let him 701 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 3: be able to use it and take it away from me. 702 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 3: But if he can catch them both ways, he is 703 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 3: a true the best one that year, of the best 704 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 3: in the world. And obviously we didn't get that. I 705 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 3: was still waiting on MPFL to go. You know what, 706 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 3: we're not going to stop there Ford. 707 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: Faces out, but we're also taking everything out except a map, 708 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: because that's what you and I talked about about eight 709 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: once ago. Yeah, we're like, that could be a move. 710 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 4: It could be, but I mean it's not feasible. 711 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 2: I've had it. 712 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 3: I've gotten into a few discussions about people talking about 713 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 3: how they are comparing Live Scope to two D and Sea. 714 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 3: It's there's there's nothing that compares to it. 715 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: No, and it's only going to get better, and it's 716 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: it's going to change the landscape of how all sonar 717 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: is done. Like when guys used to use flashers. Ye, 718 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: Like when I saw David Fritz had a flasher on 719 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 1: his but I was like, well, here's a throwback. 720 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think that's I didn't mean to 721 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 2: cut you off. 722 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 3: That one thing that a lot of us are scared 723 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 3: about is what could it become like it can like 724 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 3: get real fast, real bad, real fast AI and all 725 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 3: that stuff. The way it is in our phones and 726 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 3: stuff like it could it could get out of hand quickly. 727 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: True bass fans are going to be here to witness 728 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: and watch it the whole way. That's West Logan, Thanks 729 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: so much for listening the lines and times. Make sure 730 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: you hit subscribe