1 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Well, that's it. MJ training camp is done. But before 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: we get to the regular season, before we get to 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: next week, game week, there are some important decisions that 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: need to be made with this team regarding the roster. 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: As we welcome you into a Friday edition of Cards 6 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: Covered two presented by Hunday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: And that's what this show is going to be about. 8 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: Going from seventy four players to fifty three and then 9 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: of course a sixteen man practice squad. It is going 10 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: to be a busy twenty four forty eight hours for 11 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: general manager Steve Kime and head coach Cliff Kingsbury. Craig, 12 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: can you believe we made it? We did? Now? It 13 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: looked it looked you know, early in the offseason we're like, 14 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: is this really going to happen? And you got to 15 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: give the NFL in all thirty two clubs a lot 16 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: of credit because players are getting tested daily, there's protocols, 17 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: there's different tiers, and we obviously were able to do 18 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: our shows out here, so thanks to everyone involved. But 19 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: you know the main thing is, Craig, is that this 20 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: looks like it's really going to happen, and so we 21 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: will get into the roster, but just the excitement, and 22 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: you know, on paper, this team has definitely improved the roster, 23 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: and I always think it comes down to players. Yes, 24 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: coaching matters, but on Sunday you're relying on your players, 25 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,839 Speaker 1: and I think they've made major strides again on paper, 26 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: So curious to see what it's going to look like. 27 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: I do think that they like a lot of these 28 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: young players, and possibly they can bring them back on 29 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: the practice squad. There's some stipulations you can add some 30 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: veteran players, but they would have the clear waivers. But 31 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: I think they're in a much better spot. A matter 32 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 1: of fact, I looked it up earlier this morning and 33 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: it looks like five new starters on offense and five 34 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: new starters on defense. Okay, and let's hope that those 35 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: new faces are upgrades over a year ago. That's what 36 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: you always have to hope for. But I want to 37 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: go back to something you said moments and I want 38 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: to echo it. Props to everyone across the league, all 39 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 1: teams throughout the Cardinals organization for where we are right now, 40 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: because there were some people out there that did not 41 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: give the NFL a chance, did not think we would 42 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: get to this point now I'm gonna knock on wood 43 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: and everything else, cross my fingers, but we are there. 44 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: We are one week away from a football Friday during 45 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: the regular season, only days before the Cardinals travel to 46 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: San Francisco and play the forty nine Ers in Week one. 47 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: But the question upon us here MJ is what will 48 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: those fifty three players look like? The roster as far 49 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: as who makes it, and then the breakdown as far 50 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: as position by position. This is kind of our guests, 51 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: if you will. It's our opportunity to sit in that 52 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: general manager's chair. We've always discussed it, and people out there, 53 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: the Bird Gang you've done it as well. Everyone thinks 54 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 1: that they can be a general manager of an NFL team. 55 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: So now is our opportunity to be Steve Kime and 56 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe maybe he listens to our opinions 57 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: and thoughts and uh and makes the decision based off 58 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: what we're saying here on Cards cover two. Yeah, listen, 59 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: those are big shoes to fill. Again, he I know 60 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: one percent, It's less than what Steve Kim knows. There's 61 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: so much that goes involved. We don't know that behind 62 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: the scenes when it comes to contracts tatus. Yes, we 63 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: have numbers, but is that player part of the core 64 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: of the future. Is there a player they really like 65 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: they're going to try to slide on the practice squad. 66 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: So I want to make this very clear. This is 67 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: the initial fifty three man roster that we will see 68 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: at some point Saturday afternoon, late Saturday afternoon. Normally the 69 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: Cardinals are one of the last to do it. That 70 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: can change within twenty four to forty hours. So we're 71 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: going to try to take a stab at this initial 72 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: fifty three man roster. And according to Steve Kim, he 73 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: thinks when it comes to the inside linebackers secondary and 74 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put the outside linebackers that I don't want 75 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: to put words in his mouth, but he said in 76 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: a running position. There's going to be tough decisions for 77 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, though head coach Cliff Kingsburg his last 78 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: media availability of training camp and the last time we 79 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: will hear from him until we get to next week, 80 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,679 Speaker 1: said quote. Roster wise, it's pretty close to being set 81 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: regarding a fifty three man roster. So at this point 82 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: the Cardinals have a good idea of who they're going 83 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: to keep and keep in mind. This would have been 84 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: something that would have happened after the fourth and final 85 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: preseason game to where a player on that Thursday night, 86 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: typically in Denver or hosting the Broncos at State Farm Stadium, 87 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: where you might be able to make one last case 88 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: to be included on that fifty three. And as Steve 89 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: Kaine mentioned during the rud and Way practice on television, 90 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: you know that's where Dennis Gardak he played well. Now 91 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: he always go back and look at Cap Cappy and 92 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: the Cardinals made the right decision there. He hasn't been 93 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: in the just using an example, and then in the 94 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: trench Serfields and the Zequiel Turners and unfortun these guys 95 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: didn't have that opportunity. But you know, when you when 96 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: you look at it, I always think, you know, usually 97 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: Craig ninety nine point nine percent of year roster going 98 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 1: to camp is going to be your team. Now, the 99 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,679 Speaker 1: Cardinals did add dray Er Patrick a late edition. Uh 100 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: you know, could be the day one starter opposite of 101 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: Peterson Um. So when you look at it from when 102 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: they're they're when they're looking at it, I always think 103 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 1: that between forty five and forty eight players when they 104 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: go to camp, they know these guys are going to 105 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: make the roster based on starters, depth, salaries, how many 106 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: more years I owned a contract, And then I think 107 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: there's those those last five day eight maybe five day eight, 108 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: where you got you got to figure out who's the 109 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: best at the bottom of the roster, and they'll continue 110 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: to turn that roster over based on waiver claims and 111 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: possibly street free agents. So I like where they're at, 112 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: but I'm not surprised that they're close to fifty three 113 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: because again, ninety nine point nine percent of your team 114 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: going to camp usually ends up on your roster in 115 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: a week. Well, the fifty three man roster. Before we 116 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: go position by position, let's remind the Cardinal fans that, 117 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: if you haven't done so already, update to the latest 118 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: version of the Cardinals mobile app today. The update features 119 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: in all new redesign homescreen experience. Visit asy Cardinals dot 120 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: com slash app for more. All right, let's dive into this, 121 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: and typically you've always said it's twenty five players on offense, 122 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: twenty five players on defense, and a chorus you're three 123 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: special teams players. But as we go offense first, here 124 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: and looking at the quarterback position currently on the roster, 125 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, Brett Hunley, Chris Streveler. My personal opinion all 126 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: three are going to make the initial fifty three man roster. Wow, 127 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: that's just me. I'm going out on a lim perhaps, 128 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: but I believe they'll keep three quarterbacks, Okay, And I 129 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: understand that. And Kingsbury opened that door saying, you know, 130 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: we we like what Chris has done, and obviously they 131 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: like what Brett Hunley has done. You know, Brett Hunley 132 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: does have It's a small not but he has he 133 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: has a guaranteed of a million dollars. Not that you 134 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: would make that decision on that. I just think Craig 135 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: if obviously, if Kyler Murray goes down, um, you know 136 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: it's going to be difficult for anybody, even though they'll 137 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: try to keep the same offense and protection. Um. But 138 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: I just trusts Brett Huntley. Yeah, he got in some 139 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: games last year. He played well in Seattle, UM, and 140 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: he's got experience. He's backed up Aaron Rodgers and Russell Wilson. Yeah, 141 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: didn't get a really chance to play in both situations 142 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: limited time, So I feel more comfortable going in the 143 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: deseason and if in the perfect world, Chris Streveler I 144 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: try to sliden the their practice squad. Well, I'm not 145 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: buying what Kingsbury tried to sell earlier this week with 146 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: respect to Huntley and Streveler battling and out for the 147 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: number two position. That's that's that's just me. I think 148 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: it's firmly Huntley's job. He'll be the backup and Streveler 149 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: will be that third quarterback maybe Taysom hill Ish, but 150 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: someone that can also play on special teams. If we 151 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: got a chance to read between the lines when special 152 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: teams coordinator an assistant head coach Jeff Rogers addressed the 153 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: media during training camp. So that's three. Maybe now you're 154 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: keeping an extra quarterback which is going to come at 155 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: the cost at another spot, and that's something you have 156 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: to weigh. Well. First of all, even if Streveler in 157 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: your scenario makes would he be active on game day? 158 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: What you're talking about a guy who's going to play 159 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: five D eight maybe nine snaps maybe and quite frankly, 160 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: and I think Kingsbury would probably think along these lines. 161 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: Can't speak for him, but I'm not taking Kyler Murray 162 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 1: off the field. Yeah, We had that discussion when Straggler 163 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: was signed. I you know, I don't. It looks good 164 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: on paper, but I'm sorry, Murray is too good and 165 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 1: too athletic to where what does Straggler give you if 166 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: he's under center and the shotgun that Murray can't give you, well, 167 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: I mean there's there's you know again, is he a 168 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: gadget guy? Because we referred to him as the Tyson 169 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: Hill the Cardinals a long way to go. I mean, 170 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: Tyson Hill could be the starting quarterback next year in 171 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 1: New Orleans. You know, you can have him in the game, 172 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: if he's active, you can have him in the game. 173 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: And Murray just maybe goes out to the wide receiver 174 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: position and you maybe you're running a gadget play, but 175 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: you're tipping your hand there. I mean, Cliff knows more 176 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 1: than I do about it. But I just think you 177 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: go into the season with two quarterbacks because now we're 178 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: going to get into how many running backs that they keep, 179 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: how many wide receivers they keep, and how many offensive 180 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: linemen keep. We think there were probably going to keep 181 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: three tight ends, which we'll get into. So it's really 182 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: a numbers game, and you've got to figure out who's 183 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: going to be active on game day. Straveler doesn't have 184 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: the experience to play on special teams. But there is 185 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: a reason why they signed him. Now, did they get 186 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: enough of a look including all of the offseason point 187 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: a lot of zoom meetings and here and training camp 188 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: that tipped it in his favor to make the fifty 189 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: three Listen, it wouldn't surprise me if he has an 190 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: opportunity to be the backup next year. Okay, I didn't 191 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: think about that, but that's a good point, absolutely, because 192 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: Hunley's on the last year of a one year contract, 193 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: so yeah, it would make some sense. And he's very 194 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: similar to Murray. You know, Unley can run the zone read, 195 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: he can run the RPOs. Maybe they think is a 196 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: year away, you know, put him in the system. He's 197 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: got the athleticism. Now, I don't think he's a speed guy, 198 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: but he's he's he's athletic. He can catch the ball, 199 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 1: he can throw it, he can run it. Again. I 200 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: don't think he's out or anybody, but maybe they're looking 201 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: at him is more part of the future. All right, 202 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: let's move to the running back position. They have five 203 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: on the roster and we know Kenyan Drake and Chase 204 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: Edmonds are locks as far as your daughter and your 205 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: number two. The question becomes DJ Foster. You know Benjamin 206 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: Jonathan Ward. Do you keep three? Do you keep four? 207 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: I've kind of gone back and forth on this, but 208 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: how do you feel about the running back position? Well, 209 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: I know that James Saxon was really impressed with DJ Foster. 210 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: Now the question is going to come can he stay healthy? 211 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: I thought he showed some burst. He's a guy that 212 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: plays on special teams. But I just think when when 213 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: you have your Bell Cow and Kenyan Drake and then 214 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: a change of pace guy in Chase Sevens, the Cardinals 215 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: don't have a third down back. I think eno Benjamin 216 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: could be your third running back. That means he would 217 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: be active on game day. UM don't know how many 218 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: touches he would get as a running back, but maybe 219 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: he's part of that return game. Maybe he could be 220 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: I think when you're looking on paper, Christian Kirk could 221 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: eventually be the punt returner. They haven't announced anything, no 222 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: depth chart, but I think Benjamin could be an option 223 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: as a kick returner. Now, ball security is going to 224 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 1: be a big issue there, but I think up sidewise, 225 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: I think Benjamin may have a little bit more upside. 226 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: I think DJ Foster's more of a special teams player. 227 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: I think they both can catch the ball, but I 228 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: think Foster's probably better in pass protection. When eno Benjamin 229 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,839 Speaker 1: was drafted in the seventh round, my immediate thoughts were, 230 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 1: all right, well, we've got two sun devils and Foster 231 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: and Benjamin battling for one job. And now my thinking 232 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: has changed. I think both make it, and four running 233 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: backs make the roster. And why I feel that way 234 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: is because A Foster's ability and special teams and how 235 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 1: better have A We've been told how much better he 236 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: is at pass protection than you know Benjamin, and all 237 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: plays a factor. And again we don't have the benefit 238 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: practice film, we don't have the benefit of you know, 239 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: what is being discussed in meetings. But put it this way, 240 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: much like I'm going out on a limb, maybe with 241 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: three quarterbacks, four running backs for me make this team. 242 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go three, and Foster would be eligible for 243 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: the practice squad. And I really like Jonathan Ward. He 244 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: wears number thirty eight. He kind of looks like Andre Ellington. 245 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: You know, obviously Ellington had some injuries where maybe he 246 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: didn't live up the part he was a fifth round picked. 247 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 1: This young man's a undrafted free agent. I like his size, 248 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: so there could be two options. If you only go 249 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: with three, you can have two on the on the 250 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 1: practice squad, all right, So that's a big decision. And 251 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: general manager Steve Commas you alluded to, brought up that 252 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: running back room on the Red and White Practice broadcast 253 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: with Paul CALVESI and Ron Wolfley. Now wide receiver, here's 254 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: the debate. Do you keep six or do you keep seven? 255 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: And of course if you keep seven, that means you're 256 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: going one less at another position. I'm keeping six. And 257 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: now who are the top six guys? Well, just based 258 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: on you know what you hear and see meeting zoom meetings, 259 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: coaches talking up certain players. You got a chance to 260 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: see a little bit of the Red and White practice. 261 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: So it starts with Fitz Hopkins, Kirk, I'm gonna put 262 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: Isabelle in there at number four, even though I like 263 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: Sherfield just as much, but I understand, and he's a 264 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: second round pick. And then I'm gonna go Keishaw Johnson. 265 00:13:56,280 --> 00:14:00,079 Speaker 1: Now I didn't mention that Kim Butler to me, I 266 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: don't think he's shown enough. You know, he's a late 267 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: pick and you know obviously he missed last year. So 268 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: that's my top six guys. I'm gonna add Trent Shrefield 269 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: because I think he makes this team once again on 270 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: special teams. As far as amongst the wide receivers. Now, 271 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: I don't know how much wide receiver time he's going 272 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: to get, but he will certainly be a benefit of 273 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: the fact that his first two years in the league 274 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: he's made a mark on special teams. So that's Fitz Hopkins, 275 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: Kirk Isabella Johnson, and Serfield. And I don't know that 276 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: this might be the wild card here as far as 277 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: an extra receiver, and it's because the special teams, we 278 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: don't know about punt returner, we don't know about kick returner, 279 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: but we do know that Jojo Ward has the speed 280 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: of someone that perhaps could be a surprise to make 281 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: the team an undrafted rookie free agent. It is going 282 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: to be real difficult because Kingsbury earlier this week mentioned 283 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: that there would be more carryover, perhaps because of the 284 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: lack of an offseason and preseason game, so more difficult 285 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: for the newcomers to make the fifty three man roster. 286 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna I'm gonna make Joejoe Ward one of 287 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: my last roster picks. So I'm gonna go seven wide receivers. Okay, 288 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go six. And you know, obviously if they 289 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: decide to, you know, I guess we'll wait and see 290 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: what happens with Kem Butler. But Johnny, Johnny Dixon, they'd 291 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: like him. He mentioned him possibly, you know, down the 292 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: road as a returner. And then Jojo Ward. I think 293 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: he's flashed year and that's something that Cardinals don't have 294 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: on the roster. So I understand what you're doing there. 295 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: I think these a couple of these guys in AJ Richardson, 296 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: you know, he's in the practice squad last year. I 297 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: do think you're gonna have two or three wide receivers 298 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: in the practice if they clear waivers. So I think Dixon, Richardson, 299 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: and Ward would be excellent candidates for the practice squad 300 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: tied end position. And I think we're an agreement here 301 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: that they will keep three Max Williams, Dan Arnold and 302 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: Dorrell Daniels. They all do a little something different. The 303 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: odd man out here is Dylan Cantrell, who was a 304 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: late addition to the roster, signed two years removed from 305 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: being or being coached by Kingsbury at Texas Tech, but 306 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: missed some time early in training camp because of an 307 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: undisclosed injury, so he might be a little bit further 308 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: away from actually being ready for the NFL. But Max Williams, 309 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: Dan Arnold and Darrell Daniels and I think I don't 310 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: think there's any debate on that. And then the question, 311 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: though becomes just how much do we see the tight 312 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: end once the regular season begins. I would agree with that, 313 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: and I think Cantrell would be another option for the 314 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: practice squad. All right, the last position group on the 315 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: offensive side. And with me, since I went heavy at 316 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: running back and I went heavy at quarterback, this is 317 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: where I go light and this is probably what's going 318 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: to penalize me in the long run once we finally 319 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: do get that fifty three man roster. But the offensive line, 320 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: how many do you keep? My number is nine? So 321 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: you got your five staughters and four backups? All right? 322 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: Who your four backups? All right? The four backups? And 323 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 1: this is assuming based off what Kingsbury and Sean Kluger 324 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 1: had said that Kelvin Beecham's my starting right tackle, so 325 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 1: that means Justin Murray, Max Garcia, Josh Jones are the backups, 326 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: along with Lamont Gilliard as your backup center. Okay, I 327 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: can see him keeping nine. So your four backups would 328 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: be Justin Murray, Max Garcia, Josh Jones, and who's the 329 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: fourth Lamont Gilliard. Okay, I think they go nine there. 330 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: I was leaning with ten, but Sam Jones to me, 331 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: could be an option for the practice squad. Quota Martin 332 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: could be an option for the practice squad. Now you 333 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: don't have Josh Miles correct, and maybe another guy that 334 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: would be perhaps practice squad eligible, Brett Toth as well. 335 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: It's again this is where you know, you know your starters, 336 00:17:58,480 --> 00:17:59,959 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden is okay, we need 337 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 1: to come up with backups. Who's our second team? And 338 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: hopefully we never get to that point to where we 339 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: have to use a Max Garcia or Lamont Gilliard on 340 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: the interior. But you have to be prepared, you have 341 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: to be ready. And that's why I'm kind of even 342 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: though I'm saying nine, it seems a little light, especially 343 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: with an offensive line, because they're the ones that never 344 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 1: come off the field. Well, you dress eight on game date. 345 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: So because I went light at running back and because 346 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: I went light at quarterback, I'm want to take Josh 347 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: Miles number ten. Okay, and again DJ Humphries, Justin Pugh, 348 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: Mason Cole j R. Sweez and Kelvin Beecham are your 349 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: starters from left to right with depth, And Googler was 350 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 1: very emphatic as far as praising those second team guys 351 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: that he would have no hesitation to inserts, whether it 352 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: was a Josh Jones or Max Garcia, Lamont Guilliard, Justin 353 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: Murray as far as penciling them in or not penciling. 354 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: I'm putting them in if need be because of an injury. Yeah, 355 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: And that's the interesting thing about Lamont Gilliard. I mean, technically, 356 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 1: Max Garcia is going to be active on game daby 357 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: because he can play both left and right guard, and 358 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: you've got to assume that when you can do that, 359 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: you also probably an emergency at center. So he's going 360 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: to be active. But gilliards background is playing center, and 361 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: obviously maybe you know Mason Coles Young, maybe Lamont Guilliard 362 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: finds out. I got to be able to play all 363 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,719 Speaker 1: three positions here, so but I'm gonna go with ten 364 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: because I went light at a couple of other depositions. 365 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: All right, So the offense is set. As we continue 366 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: here on this Friday edition of Cards Covered two, presented 367 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 1: by Hunday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals, we are 368 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: acting as if we are general Manager Steve Come and 369 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: going from seventy four to fifty three by the Saturday 370 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: one pm deadline, and of course the sixteen man practice 371 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: squad as well comes later on during the weekend, and 372 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: everything will become official next week on Monday, when the 373 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: Cardinals hold their first practice of game week. That's right, 374 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 1: the first game is just now one week away, all right. 375 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: Subscribe to the Arios on a Cardinals podcast on Apple Podcasts, 376 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: Google Play Music, tune in, Stitcher, and SoundCloud. Listen to 377 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 1: your favorite shows on the go like Cardinals Underground, The 378 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 1: Big Red Rage, The Cardinals Red Sea Report, and of 379 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: course this show Cardinals Cover two. Visit asy Cardinals dot 380 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: com Slash podcasts for more information. Turning to the defense, 381 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 1: the defensive line, the guys and the trenches. You have 382 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: a three to four front seven, so maybe you don't 383 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: need as many defensive linemen if you're going with a 384 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: four to three. But if you're looking at D lineman 385 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: MJ right now nine on the roster, how many does 386 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:52,719 Speaker 1: this team keep? Well, usually you want to keep seven 387 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: on the active roster, and then you may want to 388 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 1: try to slide someone to the practice squads. So you 389 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: look at the three starters in Zach Allen, Corey Peters, 390 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: in Jordan Phillips, and then I think Jonathan Bullard is 391 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: going to be probably one of the first rotation guys 392 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,479 Speaker 1: in there. And then you can throw in the two 393 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: draft picks Lucky Fota and then Richard Lawrence. You know, 394 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 1: Corey Peters will be in the inside. So I would 395 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: keep seven, maybe Miles Brown as a guy you try 396 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: to slide in a practice squad. And then you look 397 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: at a guy like trey ViOn Clowney, Travan Cooley. Cooley, 398 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: excuse me, he's been in the league four years. I 399 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: don't know how that would affect, but I think it's 400 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 1: just a numbers game, and they kind of like some 401 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 1: of the younger players. Michael Dogby was also praised by 402 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator Vans Joseph this week as well, and yeah, 403 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: this is this is another tough decision, at least for me, 404 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: because I went light. Alie selected six Peters, Phillips Allen 405 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: as your starters, Bullard and then the two draft picks 406 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: vote two and Lawrence. And you certainly played and were 407 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: comfortable with a Michael Dogby and a Miles Brown a 408 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 1: year ago. But I think that's just going to get 409 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: caught up in a numbers game and there's just not Look, 410 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: you can't keep everyone, MJ. And that's and that's the 411 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: tough decisions that are made by general managers and front 412 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: office executives because you have to tell these players. In 413 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: the case for the Cardinals, you have to tell twenty 414 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 1: one between now and the weekend that you know what, 415 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: we signed you for a reason. We like what you 416 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: can do, but we just don't have the room. There's 417 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: someone that is just a little bit better, someone ahead 418 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: of you right now. So you know what, keep your 419 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: phone ready. Maybe we get in a pinch and your 420 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: phone rings, pick it up, answer it, and maybe you're 421 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: coming back. But I think defensive line because you're gonna 422 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 1: have a nice rotation and maybe you maybe play more 423 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: linebackers than you play defensive lineman this season, so you 424 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: go with just the six. So my seven Alan Bullard, 425 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 1: Dogbie Phillips, Lucky Poet, or Chard Lawrence, and Corey Peters. Okay, 426 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: that's my seven, and I think they can slide maybe 427 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: a Miles Brown on the practice squad. Now, the fact 428 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: that he was starting last year Craig undrafted free agent, 429 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 1: that just tells you how much they needed to improve 430 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: on that front. Seven. Well, yeah, they're I mean, you've 431 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: got starting experience, yes, but they were starting because it 432 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 1: was a matter revolving door was it was, yeah, you 433 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: lost h guys either due to off the field issues 434 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: or to injury issues, and all of a sudden you 435 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: were signing guys off the street and saying, you know what, 436 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: we need to go play right, And Miles Brown wasn't. 437 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 1: He was in an undrafted free agent, so he was 438 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: in camp the whole time. And that's just you know, 439 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 1: you want to see what you have. But clearly they've 440 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: upgraded that position by drafting, you know, two run stuffers 441 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: and hopefully Richard Lawrence can do more than that. We 442 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: know they're obviously going to be in there to occupy 443 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 1: space and try to you know, uh, you know, let 444 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: the linebackers shoot the gaps so they can get tackled 445 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: for losses. So I definitely think they upgrade. And that's 446 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: the reason why I think Miles Brown would be a 447 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: practice squad option. All right, from the defensive line, we 448 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: get to the second level linebackers and we're gonna kind 449 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: of combine him. As far as outside linebackers and inside linebackers, 450 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: let's go outside first. Chandler Jones, Devon Kinnard, has Sun Reddick. 451 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: I think they are safe. The question is the depth 452 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: behind those guys. And well, considering Vans, Joseph brought him up, 453 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury brought him up. Kylie Fitz, I believe makes 454 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 1: this team. And for me, four outside linebackers, that's your 455 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: depth chart. Jones, Kinnard maybe fits ahead of Reddick, but 456 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: those zer four, you know what, I'm gonna excuse me, 457 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna add one more five because Dennis Gardeck makes 458 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: this team as an outside linebacker, but because of special teams, 459 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: So five outside linebackers. Okay. I agree with with about 460 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 1: Kylie Fitz just because he's six four two sixty Dennis 461 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: Gardeck six feet two thirty two a son Reddick six, one, 462 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: two thirty five. So he's got the size. So you 463 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: look at Chandler Jones, you look at Canard or your starters, 464 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: and I think Kylie fits. I think Reddick makes a team. 465 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,479 Speaker 1: I think Gardick makes a team because of special teams. 466 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: I think Reggie Walker could be the odd man out. Okay, 467 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: so we were both in agreement. Five outside linebackers, Five 468 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: outside linebackers. How many inside linebackers you got, Well, I'm 469 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: gonna go with Hicks, Campbell, Simmons, Turner. Jeez, I want 470 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,479 Speaker 1: to go with Valejo, but I like Weaver, so that 471 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 1: that's eleven. That if you go both, that would be eleven. 472 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna go nine defensive backs though, So I like, 473 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: I say, you want to be a general manager, ladies 474 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: and gentlemen, So you don't you have Weaver? I do not. 475 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 1: I've got Ezekiel Turner as my fourth and final inside linebacker, 476 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: keeping nine total. And once again you're seeing it, whether 477 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 1: it's Guardeck Turner, uh, guys making the team surefield because 478 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: of their special teams and in a pinch, if needed, 479 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 1: they can play offense or defense. All Right, I'm gonna 480 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: go with he's gonna um Weaver In, Tanner, Vallejo and 481 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 1: Turner are gonna make the initial fifty three man roster. 482 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: So you're going with eleven linebackers. Okay, you're playing the 483 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: three four, that's true. And well I just said where 484 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: they're gonna play more linebackers than here, I say they're 485 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: gonna go L could see, yeah, we could see all three, um, 486 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: you know, Simmons, Campbell and Hicks on the field at 487 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: the same time. Yeah. This is uh, look, it's it's 488 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 1: not easy, especially when you get past your starters and 489 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: the rotation. Guy, I'm gonna have to go because I 490 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: didn't I didn't write twenty five twenty five, but I 491 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: feel good when I went two quarterbacks and three running 492 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: accidentally six receivers, and I went ten linemen, so and 493 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: three tight ends. Hopefully that my niagara falls mad is 494 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 1: twenty five? All right? Let's move to the secondary and 495 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: some more tough decisions, possibly as far as how many cornerbacks, 496 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: how many safeties do you select? So the cornerback position, 497 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: because this has kind of already been thrown up in 498 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: the air, if you will, because the injury to Robert Offord, 499 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: and this might have been an easier decision and easier 500 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: discussion prior to that injury. But now Offord is done 501 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 1: for the season, and there are some new faces and 502 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: some guys that maybe we're released that perhaps we're a 503 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,479 Speaker 1: little bit of a surprise. A Lewis released and then 504 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 1: picked up earlier this training camp. So if you look 505 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: at the cornerback position, Patrick Peterson, Byron Murphy, and Drake Kirkpatrick, 506 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: by all accounts, is going to be in that mix 507 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: as far as your top three, whether he is a 508 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: week one starter on the outside side, I think remains 509 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 1: to be seen. But that is where things are trending 510 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: in that direction. But after those three mj where do 511 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: you go. I'm still gonna go with Kevin Peterson and 512 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 1: Chris Jones. They've showed the ability to know the defense 513 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 1: is something happens, you know. Granted you want to stick 514 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: with your top three guys. You know, I was intrigued 515 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 1: with Ken Crawley because he played in New Orleans and 516 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: he played for Aaron Glenn. And if you're not familiar 517 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,360 Speaker 1: with Aaron Glenny, he was one of the really good 518 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: corners in the NFL. I'm telling you that's saying secondary. 519 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 1: They play well under Dennis Aullend so I was intrigued 520 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: with him, but he missed some time in camp. Chase 521 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,479 Speaker 1: Whittaker great story, undrafted free agent. I think he's more 522 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: of a practice squad option. So if I'm going with 523 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: five corners, I'm taking the top three and I'm going 524 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: to continue to roll with Chris Jones and Kevin Peterson. 525 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: I'm in agreement with you, and I like what you 526 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: said about Crawley because he's kind of a wild card 527 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: in this. He does have a resume, meaning he does 528 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: have starting experience, so that you know, does that factor 529 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: in on whether you keep him over? Maybe a younger player, 530 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: and Jase Whittaker is certainly someone that has flashed. I 531 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: think the Cardinals like what they see. But I'll go 532 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: with the phrasing that Joseph used controlled environment. They don't 533 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: know what they have when the lights come on in 534 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: a real live game situation, and that's the problem when 535 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: you don't have preseason games. But he certainly would be 536 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,479 Speaker 1: someone that you could continue to develop and work with 537 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: on the practice squad. He's a perfect slot receiver, I'm sorry, 538 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: cornerback from a steam to me, he's an inside guy. Now, 539 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: obviously Murphy's much more athletic. He's bigger, he's stronger, better 540 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: tackling the open field. But you know, when we start 541 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: talking about, you know, teams going three wide, you do 542 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: need some depth there. So Whittaker's got a long ways 543 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: to go. But I would think he's a practice squad option. 544 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: So five cornerbacks, that leaves us to the safety position 545 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: right now, the Cardinals have six on the roster or 546 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: with the question mark with and charl Bryan. So though 547 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: Kingsbury mentioned that the injuries suffered at the Red and 548 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: White practice not as severe as it looked, so keep 549 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: that in mind as well. But how many safeties does 550 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: this team carry into the Week one contest against the 551 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: forty nine ers. Well, I think locks, in my opinion, 552 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: would be Buddha Baker, Jalen Thompson, Chris Banjo, and then 553 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: you've got to start looking at Charles Washington. Had they 554 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: replaced him with other players on special teams. Hey, here's 555 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: a guy they claimed last year, Deontay Thompson. He's a 556 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: draft pick, so I think he could be safe. I 557 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: was intrigued with Bryce. You're talking about a guy as 558 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: twenty six years old, But maybe Banjo is the veteran 559 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: guy you have back there, so how many how many 560 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: safeties you keeping? I'm keeping four Baker, Jalen Thompson, Chris Banjo, 561 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: and Charles Washington. Banjo and Washington because of their special 562 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: team's ability, and the odd man out is Deontay Thompson, 563 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: and he would be elsle for the practice. Correct. Yeah, 564 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: it's I mean to me, if you're looking at that 565 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: fourth corner, I think it's going to come down to 566 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: Charles Washington and Deontay Thompson our safety. Deontay Thompson, you're 567 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: the general manager. I'm day you're putting this team together. 568 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: You tell us, Well, again, I can cheat here because 569 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: I can go with the initial I just think Banjo 570 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: is gonna have a bigger role, even though it's on 571 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: special I think if somebody gets hurt in that secondary's 572 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: coming in the game, I don't know if they're comfortable 573 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: or confident with Deontay Thompson. Charles Washington's more of a 574 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: special teams player. So I'll if I only if I 575 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: go with If I go with five, I'm keeping Thompson 576 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: the Okay, I'm keeping Thompson, and unfortunately I just haven't 577 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: seen enough from Bryce but I think Banjo kind of 578 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: fills that role. And I'm going one fewer with four 579 00:31:55,480 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: so six defensive lineman, nine linebackers, five corners and four 580 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: safety for me, and that would add up to a 581 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: total of twenty four on the defensive side, and that 582 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: had twenty six on offense. So I'm going a little 583 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: heavier on the offensive side. And that's maybe I'm being 584 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: more influenced because of Kingsbury and his background. Yeah. No, 585 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: and to me, you went a little bit heavy on quarterbacks, 586 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: running backs and wide receivers. Yep. I had a very 587 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: offensive but a few influence Okay, but this could happen. 588 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it could be twenty seven twenty three. You're 589 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: what you're saying is because the offense is the strength 590 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: of this football team. That's why they're going heavy. Not 591 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: that you're not You're not just just allowing the defense, 592 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: but you feel like they got you know, rotation guys, 593 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: they got some depth inside and outside linebacker and obviously secondary. 594 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: Where on the offensive side, you're saying, hey, this team 595 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: needs to have three running four running backs on the 596 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: roster and you're going seven and three quarterbacks. Is that 597 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: part of what your solution? Yeah, you look at if 598 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna put the entire defense and the entire offense, 599 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,959 Speaker 1: this list of players, as far as you know, as 600 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: your fourth running back better than your seventh defensive lineman, 601 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: and then does that fourth running back play special teams? 602 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: What about that seventh defensive lineman. If he doesn't, then 603 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's more beneficial for you to 604 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: keep an extra running back or a wide receiver, as 605 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: I chose to do here Initially. That is what you're 606 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: all waying here. When you're trying to narrow seventy four 607 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: guys down to fifty three. Now, typically it's ninety to 608 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: fifty three, so seventy they cut that out. Yeah, but 609 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: so that's it should be a little bit easier. But 610 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: when you're getting down to those last handful, those five 611 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: or six guys, that's where discussions take place. And what 612 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: the general manager thinks is the head coach on the 613 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: same page special teams has a voice, and we know 614 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: Jeff Rogers's voice is very loud as far as who 615 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: he likes for what he wants to do on that side. 616 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:10,439 Speaker 1: So it's it's not easy, No, it's never easy because 617 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: you're evaluating players and you're gonna miss sometimes, but you 618 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 1: feel like you have enough research and coaching and film. 619 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 1: But I think this year it's going to be a 620 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 1: little bit. Maybe the word is easier, I think, but 621 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: I think this year, because it was transpired, they're going 622 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: to be able to get some of these guys. They 623 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: cut back on the roster, yes, and it could be 624 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,439 Speaker 1: twelve now. Last year they claim five guys. They don't 625 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: have the first claim. It goes by the draft order 626 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: until week three, but they could be looking at another 627 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: The problem is you don't have scouts at preseason games. Well, 628 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: you don't have any film of those players. And that's 629 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: something we touched on earlier this week is if you 630 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: like a player that gets released from another team, you 631 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 1: have to go back to their college footage or you 632 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 1: have to go back to their NFL footage because you 633 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: have no footage of this year. Well, first of all, 634 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: they if they weren't invited to the combine, they don't 635 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 1: have the measurables. Obviously they pass NFL contract or physicals. 636 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 1: And then if they were a small school guy, they 637 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 1: didn't even get a pro day where you got on 638 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: a film in front of thirty two position coaches. So 639 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,879 Speaker 1: I do think the process will be a little bit 640 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: easier when it comes to the retaining some of these 641 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: guys on the practice squad. By the way, we did 642 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 1: not forget special teams, but this probably is the easiest 643 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:36,240 Speaker 1: decision out of every position group. Zane Gonzalez is your kicker, 644 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: Andy Lee is your punter, and Aaron Brewer as your 645 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 1: long snapper. And then the question is Ryan Winslow, who 646 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 1: has been on this team all off season, but we 647 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: didn't see punt in any games because there were no games. 648 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: What do you do with Winslow as far as maybe 649 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 1: you put a punter or an extra kicker on the 650 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: practice squad in the event, because now you gotta now 651 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: you're gotta have a backup plan in the event someone 652 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 1: tests positive for COVID late in the week. You got 653 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: to have somebody that at least is somewhat familiar, you hope, 654 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,320 Speaker 1: and has been part of the testing system as opposed 655 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 1: to going outside and trying to get someone on a 656 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: Saturday or later than that. Well, the kicker thing is, 657 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: it's a good observation or your part. I just think 658 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 1: when you have Andy Leaning, he's up there in age 659 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: and they do have a jug machine sometimes in practice, 660 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: but he does a lot of live kicking because of 661 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 1: his son, and he wanted to make sure your return 662 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 1: guys are paying attention. So Zane's young enough where I 663 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 1: think he gets the reps. But it wouldn't surprise me 664 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: if Winslow's on the practice squad and something that you 665 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 1: have always said, and you've tweeted it as well, just 666 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: because you do not get that tap on the shoulder 667 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 1: or that phone call or that text message, and you 668 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: make the roster and Saturday afternoon at one pm, well, 669 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, there is a flood of 670 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 1: players who become available, and then it becomes a feeding frenzy. 671 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: Do you sign someone after that Saturday one pm deadline? 672 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: And if you do, that means you got to make 673 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,720 Speaker 1: another roster move, so you might have made the team. 674 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, told you know what, 675 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 1: there's someone out there that was just a little bit 676 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 1: better than you. Craig, Well, we get an opportunity for 677 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 1: the open portion, possibly on Monday, for a bonus practice. 678 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 1: For the first twenty minutes, you're going to see possibly 679 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 1: fourteen to sixteen practice squad players. You're going to see 680 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 1: the fifty three man rosters. So and I want to 681 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 1: mention his name, but there was a Cardinal player that 682 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 1: made the initial fifty three went out and bought a car, 683 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 1: and he was released within forty eight hours. Now. Kingsbury 684 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:44,879 Speaker 1: was asked about this process earlier on Thursday, and as 685 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 1: far as claiming players, quote, there's always a possibility, but 686 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:53,359 Speaker 1: then he added, quote it will be less. Then they 687 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 1: claimed a year ago, and they claimed five players I 688 00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 1: believe last season because they had the number one waiver claim. 689 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: Now that's not going to be the case this time around. 690 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 1: So and we say, you have to really like a 691 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: player to claim them because now all of a sudden, 692 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: they are required to be on your active roster for 693 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: three weeks. Well, the Cardinals had so many needs, you know, 694 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: because they're coming off you know, not so much a 695 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: great season. They claim five guys, but I just don't 696 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 1: think right now the ideal thing would be claimed five guys. 697 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: But they got to come in here and learn this offense, 698 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,919 Speaker 1: in this defense. They have their twenty two starters. They 699 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 1: have fourteen to sixteen players on offense that we're going 700 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,720 Speaker 1: to see this year. They probably have seventeen on defense. 701 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,839 Speaker 1: So I don't know. If there's a player that they liked, 702 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: maybe he signed with another team in the offseason and 703 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: maybe their opportunity was better and he's on the wire. 704 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: You never know. But I just think they liked the 705 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 1: players they have in this camp right here, and you 706 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: can't keep everyone. It wouldn't surprise me if they claim 707 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 1: nobody just because of what you said. They had a 708 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 1: roster that they like, whether it was ninety then down 709 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 1: to eighty and now where they stand at seventy four. 710 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: Because those players that might not be on the fifty 711 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: three and get released one you can bring it back 712 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 1: on the practice squad. Two. They've been with you this 713 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: entire time. You've seen them. You brought it up earlier. 714 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: You don't want to see injuries. But you know, a 715 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 1: guy like Joejoe Award, I mean if they need a 716 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 1: deep threat, I mean it could be week it could 717 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 1: be a week fourteen where he's got to come into 718 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 1: a pinch. Now you gotta make a roster move or 719 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 1: corresponding move. But yeah, I mean, these guys have been here, 720 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 1: they know this offense. Last year they were still figuring 721 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 1: out the offense going into the season, and that plays 722 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: a huge factor knowledge as opposed to sometimes that wins 723 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: out over talent because then all of a sudden, if 724 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,479 Speaker 1: you are on the field, you're reacting, you're not having 725 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 1: to think. And getting a guy like Drake Kirkpatrick, unfortunately 726 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: it was because of an injury, they flooded the position. 727 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 1: He's got experience, he's got he's got a relationship with 728 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,800 Speaker 1: Vance shows if he's a former first round pick twenty fourteen, sixteen, 729 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 1: so there's familiarity there and he's a plug and play 730 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,400 Speaker 1: guy if that happens to be the case. But I 731 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 1: just don't think there's guys on the street right now 732 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 1: that they got to go through the COVID. Now, the 733 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: Cardinals are still working out players on Tuesdays. Every team doesn't. 734 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 1: It's called a ready list, and you know, we don't 735 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 1: report it just because it's stuff that you know, we 736 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen. But they look at 737 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 1: four or five different positions, bring players in and some 738 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 1: of those guys are undrafted free agents, some of our veterans, 739 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,919 Speaker 1: so they're always ready. But I just think they really 740 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 1: like this roster that they have right now. So you 741 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 1: enjoy being a general manager. No, it's this great sitting 742 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: here because that's honestly at a different level. These are 743 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 1: the conversations they're having. We don't have the analytics part, 744 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 1: and you know what the what they want the roster 745 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 1: to look like age wise, and there's so many factors 746 00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 1: that goes into this is a part of our future. 747 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 1: I d him as a core moving forward, So I 748 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 1: love doing it. I guess we'll give you the score 749 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,839 Speaker 1: on Monday. How he did it certainly is a fun exercise. 750 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 1: But yeah, the pressure is certainly not on our shoulders. 751 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 1: It's on somebody else's shoulders. And we will see when 752 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:22,800 Speaker 1: everyone reconvenes on Monday for that first practice heading into 753 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 1: the San Francisco game the regular season just over one 754 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,319 Speaker 1: week away. And on that note, that's going to put 755 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: a lid on this edition of Cards Cover two presented 756 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: by Hounday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals, as all 757 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,800 Speaker 1: Wes special thanks to our executive producer, Jim. I'm a 758 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,799 Speaker 1: hundred for Mike Jarecki. I'm preig Rayel Lou. We'll talk 759 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,359 Speaker 1: to you next time here on Cards Cover two,