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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. It's no hustlers. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name

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Speaker 1: is Dan hans As. I come to you from the

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Speaker 1: room filled with some virtual heroes, well that they're real,

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Speaker 1: the room virtual Mark Sessler, Greg Rosendal, What is up? Please?

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Speaker 1: That time of year? That's time. It really hit me

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Speaker 1: today when I looked at the you know, the week

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Speaker 1: fifteen slate for the first time, you know, and this

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Speaker 1: Sunday is December that something how about that game is

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Speaker 1: being played on December twenty this weekend. Not the greatest

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Speaker 1: week of games coming up, by the way, just because

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Speaker 1: at this point, you know, we can't um you know,

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Speaker 1: align ourselves with cuteness towards like little upstart teams like

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Speaker 1: some of them just at this point are they smell bad?

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Speaker 1: They need to be put out behind the shed to

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Speaker 1: to rot to death and then they read Earth in spring.

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Speaker 1: I thought we were sending them out to the corn

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Speaker 1: fields and we would, you know, let them have a

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Speaker 1: nice rest of their lives. But you it sounds like

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Speaker 1: you want to torture and and and murder them. No,

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Speaker 1: I feel like some are just rotting, where like there

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Speaker 1: is like the vibrant part of those teams live yeah,

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Speaker 1: market in the holiday spirit. This is Mark him taking

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Speaker 1: animals behind sheds and hours after two and we are

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Speaker 1: going to dig into Monday night football in full. But

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Speaker 1: I just do want to say Mark, right off the bat,

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Speaker 1: thank you for being here, because I know there are

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Speaker 1: no promises made on Sunday's show whether if things worked

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Speaker 1: against your brownies as they did unfortunately uh for you,

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Speaker 1: that you would be on the show. And yet you're here,

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Speaker 1: which again just speaks to your professionalism. Well a couple

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Speaker 1: of things. I have nothing else to do. But secondly,

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Speaker 1: what kind of scoundrel would I be to just not

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Speaker 1: appear because a football team lost? Um, I think that

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Speaker 1: as a negative. So uh, you know I intended to

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Speaker 1: be here win or lose, all right, And you are

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Speaker 1: here and we will get to that game. We have

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Speaker 1: a lot to get to. Yes Week fifteen is upon

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Speaker 1: us uh in just two days, and we will preview

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Speaker 1: the Chargers Raiders Tilt, the Raiders last chance to save

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Speaker 1: their season and what has been a very rough not

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Speaker 1: in December to remember by Alexis and Nissan so far

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Speaker 1: for the Raiders. Uh, so they have one more chance

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Speaker 1: to save the day. We will also with the holiday

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Speaker 1: season here offer up our own little wish lists for

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Speaker 1: the balance of the NFL season. So things that we,

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Speaker 1: you know, we wish to have happened between now and

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Speaker 1: let's say, Super Bowl fifty. I don't know, who knows.

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Speaker 1: I can never. That is one thing where my brain

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Speaker 1: just doesn't work. I can't remember any Super Bowl titles.

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Speaker 1: Don't like the Roman numerals. Just just tell me what

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Speaker 1: teams are there? I mean, according to the NFL, we're

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Speaker 1: still in the one hundred year celebration of pro football,

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Speaker 1: so I my math is completely turned around. It's so

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Speaker 1: weird because it's actually now the one and fiftieth year

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Speaker 1: with the century mark for whatever reason. Super Bowl two

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Speaker 1: Nice clean See you're not as like into like traditional

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Speaker 1: I just can never like whenever people, even Patriots ones

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl forty seven. I I remember, I just my

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Speaker 1: that for an hour today on the podcast Game of

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Speaker 1: Week fifteen, we're doing our wish list. But yes, Mark

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Speaker 1: go reight huddle with Jackson back out there. Fourth and

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Speaker 1: Kevin Harland of Westwood one with the call. All so

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Speaker 1: many unbelievable things from this game, but the fact that

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Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff that happened after that, but that

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Speaker 1: the disappearance of Lamar Jackson, for the mysterious cramping leading

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Speaker 1: Mark Obviously it had to be a roller coaster of

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Speaker 1: And it was a roller coaster ride for me. I

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Speaker 1: they got out schemed. Um, they're not the first team

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Speaker 1: I don't know how to express it in bullet points

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Speaker 1: great game for Stefansky. I never thought they were out

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Speaker 1: The only problem was the brown scored too quickly. Just crazy.

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Speaker 1: of things, very impressed, obviously, um with their fight and

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Speaker 1: But you know, they called the Ravens Cleveland's big brother,

429
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,919
Speaker 1: and and the Ravens were also ripped from Cleveland's bellies.

430
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,240
Speaker 1: So even if you looked at like Greek and Roman myths,

431
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,639
Speaker 1: the idea that a big brother is taken out of

432
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 1: the stomach of a little brother is a plot that

433
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 1: those myths didn't even attempt to cook up with. So

434
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 1: it's a very odd, uh, you know, relationship between the

435
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,679
Speaker 1: two teams. I thought it was kind of cool to

436
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 1: see um Stefanski and Harbaugh at the end of the game.

437
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 1: They showed extreme respect to each other. And if there's

438
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:42,199
Speaker 1: even um respect going towards a Cleveland coaching staff at

439
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 1: this point, that is a massive sea change. So it

440
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,880
Speaker 1: is a step forward, Um. And believe me, like in

441
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 1: in Dan, this will be the Jets at some point.

442
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 1: Anyone that follows a struggling team at some point, if

443
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 1: you live long enough, you'll it will be there. It's

444
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 1: totally surreal. I'm not catching up with it. Um. Emotionally,

445
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 1: I just hope that they don't flounder and somehow get

446
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,119
Speaker 1: knocked out by the Ravens because everyone sort of booked

447
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 1: them for the playoffs and they have worked to do

448
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 1: for that to be true. They're not in yet. They

449
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,640
Speaker 1: things could go wrong. They've got to stick to who

450
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 1: they are. I think they'll be all right, though, Mark,

451
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,399
Speaker 1: we've seen so much this year that they know how

452
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 1: to take care of their business. That would be That

453
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 1: would be a real change of personality for them at

454
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 1: this point. And I agree with you. Moral victories don't

455
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,880
Speaker 1: take you very far. Especially when you have a chance

456
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 1: to beat the ravens of all teams. But uh, yeah,

457
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 1: like when we were texting yesterday three years ago in April,

458
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 1: Mark and I were in the cozy here at the

459
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 1: bar in Los Angeles by our office. Uh taken a

460
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 1: shot because market team had taken Baker number one, and

461
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,919
Speaker 1: and the Jets took Donald number three, and it it

462
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 1: felt like the a new beginning. The Jets obviously have

463
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,239
Speaker 1: gone the total opposite direction and or worse off than

464
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 1: they ever were. But look at where the Browns are

465
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,640
Speaker 1: now from then when they were coming off their own

466
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,199
Speaker 1: oh and sixteen season. So there's so much to be

467
00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:01,640
Speaker 1: excited about. And m two two quick points. First of all,

468
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 1: Justin Tucker. You guys know my feelings about Justin Tucker.

469
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 1: The fact that it felt like it was a done

470
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 1: deal when he's on the field just tells you everything

471
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,959
Speaker 1: you need to know about him. Just drilling a fifty

472
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,719
Speaker 1: five yard or to the open air state, the end

473
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 1: of the state with the eyes of the world on him.

474
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,439
Speaker 1: Never a doubt that guy is a Hall of Famer

475
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 1: to me. And how about a name for the game.

476
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: What do you think about the Holy Game? Yeah? That works?

477
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 1: On multiple levels. Like it? Why not? I like it.

478
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: I want to speak one thing into existence. Well, then

479
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:32,879
Speaker 1: finish your finish what you were gonna say, Dan, No, no,

480
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 1: I'm speaking this into existence because then in in the

481
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 1: way I see it, then this will not happen. Um,

482
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 1: there is a scenario where the Jets and Dolphins end

483
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 1: up in total hell. The Jets and Browns end up

484
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,360
Speaker 1: in total hell. Where if the Browns lost to the Jets,

485
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 1: if Sam Donald outdueld Baker Mayfield and the Jets beat

486
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 1: the Browns, and it's somehow compelled to knock the Browns

487
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 1: out of the postseason and the Jets out of the

488
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 1: first overall pick, that would be very dark. Back to

489
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:07,719
Speaker 1: the cozy, I don't care if it's closed market. But um,

490
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 1: and yes, that was a certified lock off. And uh

491
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: it gave me no pleasure to feel your pain. Mark.

492
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 1: But I gotta take the w and move forward to

493
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 1: Dan Hans shout out. I gotta take that dub well

494
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: over Erica too. She's um And just when we knew,

495
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 1: Justin Tucker goes the smoke that field goal when Erica

496
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: aligned herself and she she was hammling and hauling. Should

497
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 1: I picked the Ravens or Browns. When she picked Cleveland,

498
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 1: you knew it was all over. You knew it was

499
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 1: all over, and sure enough, that's how it played out.

500
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 1: Way to go, Erica. Thank you, Erica, you on the show.

501
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: There she is. Yeah, I don't like this narrative being

502
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,880
Speaker 1: not a narrative. It's it's actually now just the way

503
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 1: society is and your that's your your fate within this realm.

504
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: I really thought the Browns were gonna pull it off

505
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 1: when when they went down and scored, and I was

506
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 1: just like, this is it? Like I was really really

507
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 1: rooting for it, and maybe that's that's my downfall. Yeah,

508
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: don't don't blow this Brown's I don't think they will either,

509
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: but don't blow this. Don't blow it. Funny win, win

510
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: that game in New York, beat the Jets, and then

511
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: have like a dead boring game in weeks that don't

512
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: even thweat it out in week seventeen. All right, there

513
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: we go, Mark, we can close the book on that game.

514
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure it will never come up again. In fact,

515
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: as we're taking us, it's playing on NFL Network. I

516
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 1: know that for a fact, and uh, you you might

517
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 1: have to deal with some replays of that for the

518
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 1: rest of the time. But you know that is I

519
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 1: guess the price of being involved with a classic game. Uh.

520
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 1: When it when it goes your way, you love when

521
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,880
Speaker 1: it comes out all the time. When it doesn't, it's

522
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: just one more thing that makes life kind of annoying.

523
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 1: I will take it assuming that they replay a game

524
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 1: that they win at some point. NFL Network they seem

525
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 1: to specialize in playing Brown's Heartbreakers. I don't know if

526
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 1: it's a personal note towards towards myself they have to

527
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 1: choose from. Ultimately, I mean, I feel like it probably

528
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 1: outrages anyway. Let's move forward. All right. It is the

529
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 1: holiday season, Greg, we're smack in the middle of hanaka

530
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 1: or Smokey Robinson calls it Chanooka, and uh, I know

531
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 1: that's a big time celebration in your home. No, we don't.

532
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: Sometimes people that like aren't really that close with me,

533
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 1: they'll like text me like, oh happy Hanukah, and am

534
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: I always torn of like do I bother to tell

535
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 1: them we don't celebrate anika or not? You got a

536
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,679
Speaker 1: manure in the house. Oh wow, so you're really not?

537
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: You are hands off? This is a hands off your

538
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: borderline anti Hanaka, No, I'm all about it. I'm I

539
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: support it, but I wasn't raised that way, so it

540
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: hasn't really big. We're off to a flying start in

541
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: this holiday segment. We we do have Christmas trees up

542
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: all across the south Land and uh with Christmas here

543
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: Hanaka Kwanza's role in big time. So let us share

544
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 1: our wish lists. And I know, for instance, my kids

545
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: Jack is just learning how to write. Um, so he

546
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 1: sent his letter to Santa. H Harrison, just a boy

547
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: of barely four years old. So I helped make his list,

548
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: which I think just had slime on it. It was

549
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 1: very limited in scope. Those were sent us to Santa,

550
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 1: and then Santa hopefully listens and and brings the children

551
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: the gifts that they they desire. So why don't why

552
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: don't we put together our own holiday wish lists? Here

553
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: hopes for the rest of the season. How we wanted

554
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: to play out Mark, do you want to get us gone? Sure? Um?

555
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: You know, I I think that I've had to take

556
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 1: a long look in the mirror at my attitude towards

557
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles football teams in the December and the

558
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,360
Speaker 1: holiday season is the time for healing and giving. And

559
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: I want to give a gift to um, not the

560
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 1: Rams necessarily, but but the Chargers, who I think that

561
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: they've been through a lot this season, and well, you

562
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: want to give them a gift with I might have

563
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: the segment wrong. I thought we're asking for something or

564
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: are we giving something? I thought we're putting. Yeah, it's

565
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: a wish list. It's like we're we're like those little

566
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 1: children writing to Santa. Well, I never I obviously didn't

567
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: master the writing to Santa part. I will suggest that they.

568
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: I will speak to someone inside the Charges organization. We

569
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: know a few um to put this on their wish lists.

570
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: Tell about that because I think they don't They don't

571
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: know about this object UM, but they they will like it.

572
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: UM and it is. It is bridget. It is bridget

573
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: supercomputer logical minkstress um. Because you know the Chargers to

574
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,959
Speaker 1: an embarrassing level. We know that they can't handle end

575
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: of half scenarios, end of game scenarios. It's become a

576
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: national narrative and it seems to travel from era to

577
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: era and coach to coach. They may have Eric b

578
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: Enemy paired with Justin Herbert a couple of months from now.

579
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: But even if they stick with with Anthony Lynn, who

580
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: were who were fans of UM, they could use Bridget,

581
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: who is a as far as we know, technologically advanced

582
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: UM also a bit of a biting and she she's

583
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: not gonna mince words, She's gonna tell how she does.

584
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: So I think the Chargers need some tough love good

585
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: and I would just say, let's give them Bridget. It

586
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: gets Bridget off the hands of this show. I don't

587
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,479
Speaker 1: have to deal with her again, so it helps me

588
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: as well. Any gift you give someone else should partially

589
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: help yourself. You basically have brought her out of the dumpster.

590
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: I mean I had I had forgotten about the Bridget

591
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: five thousand and if if I would have had one

592
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: wish that that you would have granted on my behalf

593
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: was give me a little heads up on this bit.

594
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: I want to have Bridget like sinked up for major

595
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,719
Speaker 1: laughs for the audience. Well, we I did speak to

596
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: our producer about this, and it's up to her what

597
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: she chooses to do with that. With that part of it, UM,

598
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: what was that Bridget good? One mark? Not good? One

599
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: mark not? Bridget's one of those characters on the show

600
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: where I could just remember which bits brought the most

601
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: anger to Mark and that was one of them, to

602
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: the point where Bridget had to be thought in a

603
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: dumpster because I needed to keep the show floating for

604
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: another you know, decade or so, so we could, you know,

605
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: pay our rent and things of that nature. Well, I

606
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: I went, I sorted through some of the other clips

607
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: that she has at her disposal, and it's all like

608
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: Greg is back on the acid. Mark has no good thoughts,

609
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: Dan is hot. Oh, Dan made a mistake, no worries, Dan,

610
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: how would you have known? Uh, you know, things like that.

611
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: So it it felt, you know, get it out of

612
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: our out of our ecosystem, and give it to the chargers,

613
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: enjoy it bolts. So the logic here is that Bridget

614
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: helps with time management. Yeah, well you know, Bridget, I

615
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: think if you were to reconfigure her system, a bit

616
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: could become one of those They apparently don't hire anyone

617
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: from the analytical community, so let's just give them a

618
00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: robot to handle late game situations. So she mean bridge

619
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: it on the headset with Eric b Enemy or Anthony Lynne.

620
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: They'd be like bridgets got a handled see In this case,

621
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: you could be like Anthony, do not run the ball

622
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,959
Speaker 1: with twenty seconds left and no time out? See unbelievable.

623
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: Greg is back on the acid. All right, there you go.

624
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: So the wish is that the Chargers have bridget the

625
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: robot to help with clock management. All right, Uh up

626
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: next Greg? Alright, Um, they do have this like mailbox

627
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: in in my neighborhood where the kids drop off. They're

628
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: wishless for Santa, which is cute. We did it. We

629
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: have a we have a tree. I do wonder like,

630
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: is this another like way they're collecting personal information? Who knows?

631
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: Who knows? Just a beam of holiday sunshine. It was great.

632
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: I love we got the tree. We got it all.

633
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: I'm I'm asking for something just a little bit after Christmas.

634
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: I'm asking the football gods for a week seventeen that

635
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: matters because I'm looking ahead and I am seeing a

636
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: scenario year where the final week of the season has

637
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: what they call in in tennis or cricket, sometimes a

638
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: lot of dead rubbers, a lot of games that don't

639
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: really have an impact on what's moving forward. To imagine this,

640
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: and this is the all of these are about are

641
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: more than fifty fifty to happen. So it's very possible

642
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: a scenario where the Chiefs have already clinched home field.

643
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: Probably the Steelers have already clinched a f C North

644
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: but have no chance for home field. The Packers have

645
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: already clinched home field, very possible considering the Saints matchup

646
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: this week and the tiebreak advantage Green Bay. As the

647
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: Rams have already clinched the NFC West, all they gotta

648
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: do is beat the Seahawks, Uh, the Seahawks, the Browns,

649
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: all these other teams are in and we just have

650
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of Week seventeen games that don't really matter.

651
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: Maybe we have like a Cardinals team playing arresting Rams

652
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: team to make it into the playoffs, and that, in

653
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: some NFC East nonsense, is all we get in weeks.

654
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: I'll give you another example because this I was looking

655
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: at the schedule this morning. Let's say, by the grace

656
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: of God, the Raiders beat the Dolphins next week, and

657
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: that becomes an stone cold race for the seventh spot,

658
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: and then the Dolphins need to win against the Bills

659
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: and a great division showdown. But the Bills locked up

660
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: the East and can go nowhere. So they don't another way,

661
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: don't play their starters, and then the Dolphins end up

662
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: getting the seventh seed, potentially by default against a bunch

663
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: of backups. It's it's it's for real. It's a concern here.

664
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Speaker 1: I think part of the thought of making just one

665
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: team get to buy you know, you know, you're you're

666
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: trying to get an extra playoff game basically, But I

667
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: think one of the side effects is taking away that

668
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: second by. Yes, you're adding a seventh team, but you're

669
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: also taking away that second by. And especially this year

670
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: where there's no home field advantage, why would why would teams?

671
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: I wonder, even if the Colts and Titans would play

672
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: out all out to win the division like you would,

673
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: you would assume they would, But I don't know. If

674
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: they're both in the playoffs, do they really care that much?

675
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: Would a week off in the middle of this pandemic

676
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: be a little more valuable Philip Rivers and Derrick Henry

677
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: than trying to get the four seed instead of the

678
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: sixth seeds? Like I don't know. I would play for

679
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: the matchup you want in January, if there's any way

680
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: to do that, you know, versus the seating like the

681
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: Browns fans are great that that that was the first

682
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: time the entire season I felt like there was any

683
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 1: level of home field advantage. Not that it was huge,

684
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: but you sense that that game was being played in

685
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: front of humans and humans that were fired up and

686
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: you know, maybe a little close to each other and

687
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: not practicing masked diligence. But at the same time, it

688
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: felt like a real crowd there. If you look at

689
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: the numbers, I haven't checked in a while, but the

690
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 1: last time I did, the road teams have a better

691
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: record than the home teams this year. So yeah, that

692
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: is a big part of this too. I think if

693
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 1: you're playing at home and you have no fans, it's

694
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: almost weirder because you have like muscle memory of remembering

695
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 1: there being seventy thousand people. But to your point, Baker

696
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: had to quiet that crowd last night. There is one

697
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: thing I like about weeks seventeen, whether or not the

698
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: matchups are good or not. And I'm with you, Greg,

699
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 1: I'd like to see four or five that that really matter.

700
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: But um, you are sort of waving farewell, and I

701
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 1: don't mean this is the way I normally would mean,

702
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 1: where it's like all you know, get rid of these teams.

703
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: Like you're seeing teams for the final minutes until next September.

704
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,280
Speaker 1: And there is something really weird about weeks seventeen where bang,

705
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: they're gone, They're out of your life. They're just they vanish.

706
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,919
Speaker 1: See you, Zach Taylor and Brandon Allen. It's like, we'll

707
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: miss you, but not really some of them. We do

708
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: need to say goodbye to um. All right, I will

709
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: I will go next. Alright, So I wish that J. J.

710
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: Watt is playing his final games as a member of

711
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: the text. You know, so many great memories for what

712
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 1: he's been in the league since I believe two thousand

713
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: and eleven or twelve, and uh, you know, the Defensive

714
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 1: Player of the Year awards. Um that cut he used

715
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: to reopen above his head, right above his uh, his

716
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: brow line, and then he would bleed out like the

717
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: iron cheek and a cage match every week. The infamous

718
00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: Varsity letter jackets before the Patriots blowouts, know those, the

719
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: grueling injury rehab efforts which are commendable. That Hard Knocks

720
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: season where he set up his own private workout under

721
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: the lights, which was awesome and fun. The noble and

722
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: wildly successful Hurricane Harvey relief fund, which raised this is

723
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 1: real forty one point six million dollars, making it the

724
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 1: largest crowdsourced fundraiser in Houston and history. Uh. He's a

725
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: Houston deity. But it's time to let him go. He's

726
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: thirty one years old, he has one year left on

727
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: his contract. He's owed seventeen point five million. It's not guaranteed.

728
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: The Texans could simply UH cut him and move forward.

729
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: They could trade him, which feels like a better route

730
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: potentially for them, as long as you play ball at

731
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: j J. And send him somewhere where he wants to play.

732
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,919
Speaker 1: But I don't know how many years Watt has left.

733
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: I know he's not the same guy he used to be.

734
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: T J has probably even eclipsed him within the family

735
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: rankings of defenders in the NFL. But wouldn't it be

736
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: nice to see J J. Watt playing for a contender

737
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: uh in the twilight of his career. It would. It

738
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: also would be a tough first move for whoever is

739
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: coming in there. There aren't many players I think that

740
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: are more beloved. He needs to kind of put that

741
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: out there that he's part of this decision. He doesn't Yeah,

742
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 1: he doesn't strike you know, he he he always talks

743
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: about how much he loves the Texans. You're right, maybe

744
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: maybe things could change. It depends on who gets there,

745
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 1: but that that would be a tough one for whoever

746
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: is coming in and being the general manager, because by

747
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: the way, I think he's still a good player, Like

748
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: I think you could get something for J. J. Watt

749
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: because his contracts fine. He's still really good. He's he's

750
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: he's not quite a pro bowler, but he's not far

751
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: off of that. I would just say, because you have

752
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson and it seems like some of the stuff

753
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: there is fixable if he were super fired up about

754
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: who they hired as coach. Um. It's just I'm with you,

755
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,479
Speaker 1: Dan that if he's if he gets um sunk into

756
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: a more depressing version of the Texans going forward, he's

757
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: earned the right to go somewhere else, and uh, we've

758
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: earned the right to see him win with a team

759
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: that knows how to organize. It'd be nice, it'd be nice.

760
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: I agree. This popped in my head because after they

761
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: got their ass beat thirty six seven by Mitch Drabinsky

762
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 1: on Sunday, he was quoted he said, we gave up

763
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: thirty six points today, we're not competitive. We gave up

764
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: thirty six points, And it just seemed like he knows

765
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: what's going on here. The Texans are in such a

766
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: weird spot because you have the Deshaun Watson, who can

767
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: speed up any rebuild obviously, but they're in such a

768
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 1: hole because of the Bill O'Brien GM experience that they're

769
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to get better quickly, especially on

770
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: defense without any draft resources and j J. It could

771
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: work for both sides. JJ gets a fresh start at

772
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: the end of his career with a contender, and they

773
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 1: could bring back a draft resource that they desperately need

774
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: after those deals at the end of the Bob tenure. Uh,

775
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: let him go, but only if he wants it, and

776
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: he and Greg you're right, he needs If they're going

777
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 1: to do this, whoever takes on this job, and I

778
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: don't think it will be Greg Easterby, JJ has to

779
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: be out in front and saying he's part of the

780
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: decision that they've mutually decided this is the way to go.

781
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: You just tell them, Gregg easter Be, that was a

782
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: slight on me, really. I mean, if Jackie uster Be

783
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: just at this point, just let them go. I mean

784
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: there will be you know, torches and pitched I think.

785
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: I think after that Sports Illustrated profile of easterby something

786
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 1: tells me Easter, these days are are numbered. We'll see

787
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: all right. Uh, Ricky, you said you had one? Yes, yes, okay,

788
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 1: so hear me out if there's anything not necessarily positive

789
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: that has come out of COVID. But my wish for

790
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: this Christmas and you know, goes into the next season,

791
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 1: is that I hope some teams and reporters kind of

792
00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: take a different, similar approach to training camp. You know.

793
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: I want them to have the normal training camp time

794
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: and a lot of time and practice. However, I don't

795
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: need to hear that Randall cobb as was taking more

796
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: you know reps than normal and he's gonna be the

797
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 1: you know, wide receiver one. I don't need that in

798
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: my life, and I don't think we all. I think

799
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: we all do. And Mark's pumping his fists. You must

800
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: agree with me. Just let them have their training camp,

801
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 1: give us our limited access. Let's leave you know, the

802
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: narratives and the bs alone, and let's we'll see in September.

803
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: So you don't want you just want to skip training camp. Well, no,

804
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: I just don't want me to media to have this

805
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 1: access that creates these narratives that we talk about for

806
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: months on end. That means we ves this is an

807
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: annual Yeah, this is an annual market mark bit. I

808
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: like it. I mean, now you've said that the weekend.

809
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: Can we just fast forward to the season, is what

810
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 1: she's saying. But a rare member of the media saying

811
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: less access, please please keep us out billionaires. I like it.

812
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: I think there's a difference between, for instance, billionaire Stunner

813
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,959
Speaker 1: from the woman that grew up with that Healy pad.

814
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: There's a difference between like what Mike Garafolo said the

815
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: other week, where he you know, you got to give

816
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: reporters access to give us information and to develop stories

817
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: that should be told. My thing is more not about

818
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: the season so much is that August training camp preseason thing.

819
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: I personally thought that the NFL this year, with no

820
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: chance to play the Pro Bowl, that should have been

821
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 1: gone as a game ages ago in the preseason. It

822
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: got fixed for you by Corona. Okay, we don't need

823
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: the preseason one game. I could do one game, like

824
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: maybe the idea of even one game or two games

825
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: where one is just simply no veterans or whatever it is.

826
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: But the idea of that team is still playing five

827
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: preseason already worried about I'm not. At least you can

828
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: be grateful. This was your dream year, Erica, with virtually

829
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: no access in training camp, it was wait, wait do

830
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:04,240
Speaker 1: you of that? What is that? Oh? Silence, it's nice,

831
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: it's quiet. I don't care who's showing up late and

832
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like the hearts in it? This training camp.

833
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: I adore it. It. I I will stand up for

834
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: the everyman. And when you make people that love your

835
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:24,399
Speaker 1: football team and want to be season ticket holders pay

836
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: full price for those two preseason games, that is hoke

837
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 1: um to borrow a damnage? Because so yes, I'm all

838
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 1: for uh defunding the preseason. It feels like a long

839
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: way off. It feels like another world. Uh, Mark, you

840
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:46,280
Speaker 1: got another one? Well, I do in in Colleen fashion,

841
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: I honestly misunderstood the exercise and I gave a gift

842
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 1: to someone, so I don't care. Go ahead, I'll do

843
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: it real quick. It's actually a gift for Erica. It's

844
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: not based on a recent comments. But um, you know

845
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 1: a little bit off the NFL sector to some degree.

846
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: But if we don't have a podcast, we don't have

847
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,439
Speaker 1: the NFL. Enost Mark, it was it was a tough

848
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: night at the Sessler house. I want to learn more

849
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: about the garage house dynamic, because the way Mark told

850
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: the story was that he started the night watching the

851
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: game in the garage and the Browns did well. He

852
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 1: goes to the house, the Ravens strike back each time,

853
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: and then at some point Mark just threw his hands

854
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: up and said, I'm gonna be with the family. I

855
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: believe what's left out there is a bit of a

856
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: dust stop between Simone, your lovely wife saying Mark, grow up,

857
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,240
Speaker 1: don't blame us for the Browns get in this house,

858
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: and and Mark went, okay, well no, Like she knows

859
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: me well enough. She's like, if you're gonna be super

860
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: stressed out, She's like, I totally get I totally get it.

861
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: But that's fine if you want to watch in the garage.

862
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: I just started to realize the idea that, like when

863
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: I was twelve, I used to stand on one little

864
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: tiny patch of carpet during Brown's games for three straight hours. Um,

865
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 1: because if I moved off and I thought they lose.

866
00:43:55,960 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: It's like I don't have powers over maybe adn't move

867
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: it off that spot. Well, you're you're not wrong, alright,

868
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: So my gift for Erica. Shall we get to it?

869
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: All right? So, Erica, UM, Because I think it's in

870
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: our best interest that you stay safe and sound, I

871
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: am going to clone um Eddie spaghetti uh and have

872
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: him stand watch outside your apartment against any additional creepy

873
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: men asking you to open their frozen pizza boxes and

874
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: cook their pizzas and borrow your knives to cut the

875
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: pizzas and maybe do other things with knives. Um. But

876
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: there is one catch in our technology. UM. The cloning

877
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: technology is a C plus C plus at best right now,

878
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: So cloned Eddie UM would he'd be standing there very

879
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: guardlike and consistent, but with like two percent of the

880
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: Eddie's real personality. UM. He also has like a ravenous appetite,

881
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: so you ject if he essentially yes, you and Jet

882
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 1: would have to make um bowls of fresh, piping hot

883
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: spaghetti because according to his name, that's the only thing

884
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 1: he'll eat. UM. On the ready, he eats a lot.

885
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: He has access to your restroom. Merry Christmas, but I

886
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: do think that the upshot will be that cramp you

887
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: would stay safe from Hooligan's unless he's in the bathroom.

888
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: Well that's part of the price, but thank you. My

889
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: wish is that the next time a mentally unhinged stranger

890
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 1: comes to the door and asks Erica for a machete,

891
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 1: a pair of gloves, and to turn off the security cameras,

892
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: Erica doesn't go, okay, okay, because sign me up? Do

893
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: you want my credit card? All right? So they go

894
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: Eddie Spaghetti Frankenstein Monster to protect Erica. Mark, you are

895
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: on fire today. I love it. Um. My second one

896
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: connected to Monday Night Football. I believe that the Monday

897
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: Night Football crew earned their button last night. And I

898
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: know Greg's gonna push back on this, but I think

899
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 1: they've been very good this season. Steve Leavy play by

900
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: play Greasy Lewis Riddick. Um, I think ESPN should take

901
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 1: last night's game, which I thought was really handled well

902
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 1: in a huge spotlight with tons of twists and turns

903
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: back and forth. Um, they they found the moment, they

904
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: rode the moment, and it felt like we're all watching

905
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: the game together. Steve Levy goes down in Monday Night

906
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: Football has his iconic line of his own now and

907
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: here comes Lamar Jackson. They'll be playing that for years.

908
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: When he came back from the locker room, and my

909
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: thought is, ESPN should put a ring on the finger,

910
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: make this relationship legit. Um, we know that tested to

911
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 1: our booger arrow was an obvious mistake. Uh, and this

912
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: current set up wasn't their first choice. But give me

913
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 1: this team with solid chemistry over shoehorning. You know, Drew

914
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: Brees or Drew Carey or Drew Barrymore or whatever. Uh,

915
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 1: just let these people grow together because I think it's

916
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: been a really promising rookie season for that trio. Well,

917
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: Drew Brees is signed with NBC, you know, unless they

918
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: had a clause in their contract. Um. You know what

919
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 1: about Drew Barrymore saying that he couldn't get into any

920
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: hot water with some some hot takes. Remember that. Remember

921
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: when Drew Brees broke up the Saints locker room forevermore

922
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: over the summer? That was fun. Uh yeah, really I

923
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: really haunted them this season like that was like we

924
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,280
Speaker 1: needed something. I mean, it was rough. Um. I do

925
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: like the the theory behind what you're talking about because

926
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: moving to another booth next year is basically admitting you're

927
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 1: like the early has Lamara Browns that like, we can't

928
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: like no one can last with us for more than

929
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 1: a year or two. And you're making this crew into

930
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: being Rob Chadzinski, which isn't isn't fair to them. It's

931
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 1: basically a bad It's showing what poor management ESPN has

932
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: to go for some consistency. I think they've gotten better,

933
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: and I think that's a good sign. I mean, week one,

934
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 1: I thought that Kirk herb Street and friend were, UM,

935
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 1: Chris Fowler were had just have flat out more mystery,

936
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,479
Speaker 1: and it concerned me that like a couple of weeks

937
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 1: in a row and these other games got put into

938
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: prime time because of Corona, that they were outshining. I

939
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: thought the Monday Night Crew over and over, and yeah,

940
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: I was waiting for the version of Louis Riddick that

941
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: we get I think in UM talk segments and on Twitter,

942
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: and I think we're getting more of that. UM. I

943
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: heard him this morning on on Dan Patrick and he

944
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 1: did an excellent job with his observations of the game.

945
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 1: So I think just letting them be more of who

946
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 1: they are UM I'm with you, Dan, I'd stick with it.

947
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: I don't want another crew starting from scratch. Um, I

948
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: don't think it's the I think they keep trying to

949
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: recreate magic from the eighties when it was really special

950
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,240
Speaker 1: to watch Monday night football and have a three person

951
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: crew when usually a two person crew just simply as

952
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: the way to go these days. But if you're gonna

953
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 1: do this, um, I think they've earned it. In my

954
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: own concerned to be that Louis Riddeck could be pulled

955
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: away to a front office sooner than later. I mean,

956
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: I keep hearing that, and there must be a reason

957
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: you keep hearing it. I mean, if if Riddick were

958
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: to go, I think it would survive with no disrespect

959
00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 1: toward him. But I think I really liked Greasy all

960
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 1: I think he's done a good job, and I think

961
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: leave he's a pro. Um. Those are the two guys

962
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,919
Speaker 1: that jump out to me more than perhaps Rick does.

963
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 1: But like, as long as Greasy is an acting like

964
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: no one else in the country has watched Carson Wentz play,

965
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: it's just like like sometimes where it's like be up

966
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: to speed with where the rest of us are in

967
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: terms of our cynicism sort towards certain players. Sometimes it's

968
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: like this over celebration of both teams where one of

969
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: the teams has major issues going on. Be real about it,

970
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: because we're not. We're too savvy as viewers. It's a

971
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: tough spot. Leave he has never done NFL games. To me,

972
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: that's the hardest job in sports play by play. And

973
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: and I think you can just see out there there's

974
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 1: a there's a big cast of characters with a ton

975
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: more experience being on NFL play by play. So if

976
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: they're gonna do this, you gotta be patient with him.

977
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: All right, Greg, you got one more. I'll throw in

978
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 1: just some speed round ones number one. Let's let's get

979
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 1: Brian floor as the coach of the year. I'm so

980
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: impressed with Brian Flores when one of you know, beat

981
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 1: the Patriots, beat the Raider and uh, you win coach

982
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: of the year. Love love him. I want to see

983
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: Alex Smith back in the lineup. This better not be

984
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: the end of the Alex Smith story. Give me Week

985
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: seventeen and Alex Smith being carried off the field for

986
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: the Division winning football team. If this calf injury is it,

987
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: that would be a big time bummer. And then this

988
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: is for all the writers around the NFL. We don't

989
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: do it as much anymore, but the Cowboys just give

990
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: Dark Prescott his contract like January five. Surprise everyone that

991
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: there's no drama to it, that the story is over

992
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: right there, like just on a on a quiet Tuesday,

993
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: way way before the playoff games. Here it is. We

994
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about it. When I heard like

995
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: greecey or something, it was some or maybe it was Think,

996
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: it was like, there's gonna be one heck of a

997
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 1: negotiation coming up, was like, give me a freaking break

998
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:56,919
Speaker 1: every year, Erica pay the man. Yes, my wish is

999
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: that hopefully with the vaccine being rolled out and everything

1000
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: for Christmas, I would really love to go to Tampa

1001
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 1: for the super Bowl with my best boys and get

1002
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,760
Speaker 1: to be in the stadium and watch the Super Bowl

1003
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: and then do our tradition after the game together. I

1004
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: would love that too. And we can't even tell you

1005
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: what the tradition after the game is, but it gets wild. Um.

1006
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: I would love that. But that ain't happened. We have not.

1007
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 1: Let's be realistic here. We've been very blessed to go

1008
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: to every Super Bowl since this podcast started, uh, and

1009
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: even a couple of years before for Mark and I.

1010
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: But obviously this is a very different year, and uh,

1011
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 1: I got a good feeling. This will be the first

1012
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 1: a t N podcast we do from back in l

1013
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: A covering a super Bowl, which will probably be a

1014
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,760
Speaker 1: lot easier of a lift, but you trade the lift

1015
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: for the experience of being at the super Bowl, because

1016
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:00,959
Speaker 1: there's really nothing like being at a super Bowl any uh.

1017
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: For that game. It's Week one that feels more realistic.

1018
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: We're not going to be you know, cutting the line

1019
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 1: for I don't think they're gonna have us cut the

1020
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 1: line for vaccines. Mark and I already got vaccinated. Let's

1021
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 1: do We're good, Let's do kickoff weekend, you know, give

1022
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: us send us to the week one Thursday game, do

1023
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: a special podcast there and to celebrate. I mean, it

1024
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,720
Speaker 1: will be weird, but a lot at like the Super

1025
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: Bowl week festivities where you're trying, you know, you're one

1026
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 1: of like thirty um rotund uh, you know, pasty journals

1027
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 1: attempting to get uh, you know, Russell Wilson to say

1028
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: three words. UM. I will miss that, but I will

1029
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 1: miss it in the sense because like, will that ever

1030
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 1: happen again. I don't know, but there's a lot of

1031
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 1: you know, we will not be we will not be

1032
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: apprehended by the FBI on a boat out on Florida waters.

1033
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,240
Speaker 1: And you know, Tampa is probably gonna be on fire.

1034
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: They don't even know that coronavirus exists, so we are

1035
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: probably missing out on what would be gonna escape from

1036
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: l a society. I thought you were gonna say we're

1037
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: missing out on a great case of coronavirus that we

1038
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: would catch in Tampa. Well, we definitely would. And I would,

1039
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 1: you know, get my phone stolen at a bar stool

1040
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: party and then get locked under a tree in a

1041
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: hurricane with an uber an hour away. That can't that

1042
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:17,240
Speaker 1: won't happen this year, and that's upsetting. I'll quote Don Draper.

1043
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 1: And by the way, that's what you get for going

1044
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,919
Speaker 1: to a bar stool party. I'll quote Don Draper, Mark

1045
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 1: Sessler uh and and because what you're saying is basically,

1046
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: what is more of a super spread than than media

1047
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 1: night at the Super Bowl? And totally true. Just like

1048
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 1: the scouting combine as well, and a lot of body

1049
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: odors and sweat and it's just not pleasant in a

1050
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: lot of ways, but Don Draper and Madmen speaking to

1051
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: Peggy after she had her secret child and she had

1052
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: the Child of Shame and spoiler alert, and Don Draper,

1053
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 1: who of course was Dick Whitman in an earlier life

1054
00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: spoiler alert and started over and hid his past and

1055
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:04,879
Speaker 1: moved on, says to Peggy, it will shock you how

1056
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: much it never happened. Move forward that what's going to

1057
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: happen here. As much as we're in this moment in

1058
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: life with with COVID right now, I just get the

1059
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: feeling that in a couple of years after hopefully everyone's

1060
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: vaccinated and it goes away, if all these things that

1061
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Speaker 1: you think are never coming back actually do come back,

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00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: because it will shock you how quickly people can move

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Speaker 1: on and just move forward. I think there's gonna be

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00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: a rever but people going absolutely crazy. Um or Or

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00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: that will be one of the greatest pull quotes we've

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00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 1: ever had on this show. Um If society continues to

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00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,919
Speaker 1: go down the two I mean people, people who moved

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00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: on in July in this country, that's the pretty much

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00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: we're like, yeah, we'll take it, we'll take it. So

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00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: if nobody's getting sick from that, particular bug anymore, it

1071
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: will shock you how much it never happened. Maybe we'll

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00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 1: we will have not learned our lesson. But that's a

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00:54:56,440 --> 00:55:00,320
Speaker 1: conversation for another time, all right, before we uh move on.

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Speaker 1: So there you go. There's our wishes. It was nice,

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Speaker 1: good seg enjoyed it. Here is the first game of Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Wait real quick, real quick. A wish from all of

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Speaker 1: us before we move into this Chargers preview, is that

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Speaker 1: what you're previewing on? UM. We wish that Chris gets

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00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 1: feeling better and is with us for every show next

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Speaker 1: year and maybe even after Christmas all together, all of

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00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 1: us wish the listeners wish we all wish for that. Absolutely, Ricky,

1082
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: it's been a really hard year for this podcast and

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00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: for West. It's been an unbelievable battle and the times

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00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 1: of struggle, uh almost all time, perpetually a struggle. It's

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00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 1: a It's amazing how brave and tough that dude is,

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00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:54,720
Speaker 1: especially with a newborn in the house. And Lakeisha also,

1087
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: she's the new Lenny Distra. She's nails. Shout out to Rhoda,

1088
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 1: her her mom, Keisha's mom coming into town and whooping

1089
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: and hollering for her favorite player, Lamar Jackson. Last night

1090
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: she was unfortunately for you, Mark, they were she was

1091
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: on the right side of that lock off. I am,

1092
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 1: and I love her enjoyment of football. Um it got

1093
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: in my way last night to some degree, but I

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00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 1: totally honor her enthusiasm. And And when I called Lakeisha

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00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 1: uh Jackson Westling a version of Lenny Distra, I don't

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00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: mean the version of Lenny Distra whose teeth fell out

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00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: and was getting gel over fraud, consumer fraud. I mean

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Speaker 1: just the hard nose grinding uh, you know, to take

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Speaker 1: one for the team vibe. And that's what she's all about.

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Speaker 1: All right, Let's get to everyone's like, who the is

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Speaker 1: Lenny des Let's get to the game to be played

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Speaker 1: on Week fifteen, Chargers Raiders. I'm into the game, not

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00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: as much as I a month ago. This felt like

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00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 1: it would have been a great game because the Chargers,

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00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,040
Speaker 1: yes they're they're Even a month ago, the record wasn't it,

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00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: But we all loved the excitement around this team with

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00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: a young quarterback. But there's been more of a depressing

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00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: um and true and fitting l a fashioned kind of

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00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: a smog that's now settled over the Chargers with Anthony

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00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: Lynne being in over his head and Herbert coming down

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00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: to earth a little bit, and the Raiders. You know, obviously,

1112
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: this is a team taken on major water, the USS crowden.

1113
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 1: So they have one last chance here at seven and

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00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: six at home to keep their season alive. And then

1115
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: if you win this game, and like I said, you

1116
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: got the Dolphins after that, who you're chasing for a

1117
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: playoff spot? Who knows? You ever know, but you gotta

1118
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Speaker 1: win this one first. Greg, do you think this is

1119
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: not gonna happen? You think the Raiders are just gonna

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Speaker 1: completely implode and continue to go down in flames. I'm

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00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 1: torn because the Chargers have looked worse even though I

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00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: know they won on Sunday overall, you know, over the

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Speaker 1: last few weeks than they have all season. But I

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Speaker 1: think I'm gonna take the Chargers just because I want

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Speaker 1: it to happen. It'd be kind of fun for me

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Speaker 1: to see the Raiders go down in flames. It's too

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00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 1: bad Podcast is not a fan of the I've I've

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00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: wanted to be, I really, I mean, ultimately, Nelson Aguilars

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00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: like their number one receiver and they're an offense first team,

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Speaker 1: so how far are you going? Because since Gruden has

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00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: taken over, they are dead last thirty two or thirty

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00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 1: two in UH expected points added on defense are allowed

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00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: on defense, and so that hasn't changed each and every week.

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Speaker 1: And and if the Chargers win this game, I think

1135
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:29,919
Speaker 1: it'll be because Herbert plays well. He did the first

1136
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 1: time against the Raiders. That was a really fun game,

1137
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: a high scoring game. UM that the Raiders won at

1138
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 1: the very last second with Isaiah Johnson, you know, bashing

1139
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: that a couple of plays out on the goal line

1140
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: or else they would have lost that game. Um, Joey

1141
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: Bosa is playing great. Austin Ekeler's back playing great. How

1142
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: about the Stars show up for the Chargers and bury

1143
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: their arrivals that Raiders well, And the Chargers didn't have

1144
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa in that tight contest earlier in the season,

1145
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: now they do. I look at a Raiders team that's

1146
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 1: given up a hundred and fifty points over the past

1147
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: four games. We all know that the defense is a disaster. Um,

1148
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 1: Jonathan Abram has a concussion. Nicholas Moreau, their linebacker is

1149
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 1: a concussion. Clellen Farrell has a shoulder injury. They have

1150
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 1: fourteen guys on the injury report right now. They're really

1151
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: banged up. And Gruden talked about the fact that like

1152
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: I think, you know, there were there was residual Corona

1153
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 1: effects with this team too, that they I mean, they

1154
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: just were battered on defense, on that, on that, on

1155
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 1: that sense and have never really recovered. And uh, you know,

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00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 1: to me, like the last two games for Justin Herbert,

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00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if teams have figured him out. I

1158
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 1: mean one was the Patriots game, but his two of

1159
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 1: his lowest three yardage outputs have been the last two games,

1160
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 1: and so um that's coincided with Austin Ekeler coming back.

1161
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if that threw them out of their

1162
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: normal offense a little bit because he's been really productive.

1163
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: But they've they've looked a little different to me, I

1164
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 1: mean the Raiders. Um, I'm not anti Raiders, but I

1165
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 1: just be like any of these teams that get into

1166
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 1: the playoffs, earn it. And they've looked like a team

1167
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: going in the opposite direction the last few weeks, which

1168
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 1: I think, you know, Dan, why you're appropriately lower on them, Um,

1169
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Speaker 1: earn it. I don't have a lot of faith in them.

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Speaker 1: They seem to be coming a part at the seams,

1171
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 1: and you know Gruden is firing a friend and a

1172
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator as sort of a scapegoat. But some of

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01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 1: this falls on Gruden too. They can't run the ball.

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01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: They have ten turnovers over the last last three games.

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Speaker 1: Derek Carr, you're gonna be the bizarro version of Derek

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01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 1: carr Um. You need the best version of these guys.

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Speaker 1: Can they do it on Thursday night? Josh Jacobs has

1178
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 1: not been a I know he was back in action

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01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: this past week. They need to get back to what

1180
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 1: they were doing when the season was going well, which

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01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 1: is running the ball, being a tough, physical team, hitting

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01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 1: hard on defense, being smart, keeping the penalties to a minimum,

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01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 1: which always seems to be a problem with the Raiders.

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01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 1: And then Derek Carr just has to, you know, avoid

1185
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 1: killer mistakes. I can't, Like I said, I don't have

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01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 1: the confidence in them anymore, but I just it just

1187
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: would seem strange to me that a team that was

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01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 1: playing as well as they were um including those two

1189
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: great games against the Chiefs, without any major injuries or

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01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 1: COVID disasters, would just completely go in the tank again.

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01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 1: So it's still the it doesn't quite add up to me,

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01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 1: which makes me think, who knows, maybe they come out

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01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 1: of a funk here with a big performance against the

1194
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 1: bad Chargers team. But at the same time, if you

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Speaker 1: pick the Chargers, Greg, I don't think that's crazy because

1196
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 1: the Raiders have done nothing to earn our confidence over

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01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 1: the past month. Almost. Yeah, the Raiders are a better team.

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01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 1: I'm just picking for for what would be fun, and

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Speaker 1: they've missed the people just like to watch the world.

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01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 1: I like to. I want to see Justin Herbert lighted

1201
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 1: up that, because to me, that's probably the best The

1202
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 1: best chance for a really fun game here is to

1203
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 1: two pretty flawed teams in the thirties going back and forth.

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01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:47,439
Speaker 1: I can envision that sort of game. But I don't

1205
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 1: like that. Gruden's doing the thing at his press conference

1206
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 1: this week where he says, hey, I never make excuses,

1207
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 1: and then he like lists fifteen injuries and he lists

1208
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 1: fifteen excuses, like, you don't see that. I know. It's

1209
01:01:57,880 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 1: only like their converse. It was like, you haven't heard

1210
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 1: that out of Kyle Sannah, Hey, you haven't heard that

1211
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 1: out of a lot of people. It's like, uh, I've

1212
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 1: heard it out of Grooden you, I'm with you that

1213
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 1: the Chargers will take this thing because you can't rush

1214
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 1: the passer. Justin Herbert's not going to be, you know,

1215
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 1: terribly taxed mentally by what the Raiders do on defense.

1216
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: I'm predicting. Uh And I see the Raiders as a

1217
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 1: team to your point, Dan, like, why were they playing

1218
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 1: the Chiefs so well that, you know, there's been whispers

1219
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,439
Speaker 1: that they've had bad practice weeks, you know, here and there.

1220
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 1: They get up for games. They get up for the Chiefs,

1221
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 1: but then they totally don't get up for the Jets.

1222
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 1: They don't they totally fall flat against Atlanta. Where are

1223
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 1: they mentally? Like, do they feel like a team that

1224
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 1: is prepared to do whatever it takes to get into

1225
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 1: the playoffs? They play the Dolphins next week, But if

1226
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 1: it's a motivation issue, then they should play well in

1227
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Speaker 1: this game because this is a playoff game for the Raiders.

1228
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 1: Lose their seven and seven and totally cooked. So there

1229
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 1: you go. I believe Mark and myself will handle the

1230
01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 1: recap of this on Thursday night, uh uh, in addition

1231
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 1: to our week fifteen preview that will come on Thursday,

1232
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 1: So be on the lookout for that, and good luck

1233
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 1: to everyone sorting out their own Christmas wish lists in

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01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 1: their home, trying to deliver the goods for santam All right,

1235
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 1: that's it, Dan hands As signing off for a quiet storm.

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Speaker 1: The old Boss, Ricky Hollywood behind the glass still Thursday,