Speaker 1: What's up the slip service. I'm Angela, I'm g G Maguire,
Speaker 1: I'm Storial, I'm sorry. Welcome back, welcome back smoking the.
Speaker 2: Building now for reinforcing Inglewood California stereotype.
Speaker 3: Man, come on, it's okay?
Speaker 1: Is that a serious think?
Speaker 3: This is a California californ type.
Speaker 1: He was that y'all can smoke here legally? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Legal. Smoking was illegal here for the longest because I
Speaker 1: felt like everybody everybody did anyway, I know what.
Speaker 4: It became unspoken rules that you guys just knew. But
Speaker 4: it was so secretive. That's what I loved about New York.
Speaker 4: Like the last five years has changed so much. When
Speaker 4: I first started coming out here, it was like speakeasier
Speaker 4: everywhere and like secretive when you have weed. It was
Speaker 4: like shut the fuck up, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: that kind of situation. But now it's like, yeah, come
Speaker 4: on in, we got somebody we can.
Speaker 1: Now you can go to the store in the street.
Speaker 2: And as it's not as fun now that that is
Speaker 2: legal to speaking it, you still can't.
Speaker 1: We'll figure out. Want to live on the edge. That's
Speaker 1: a beautiful sweater. I want to say, did that pain
Speaker 1: come with the sweater or did you add that?
Speaker 3: You know, we added this?
Speaker 1: Okay, I like that. That gives it a little oof,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And sir, listen, it feels
Speaker 1: like I haven't like seen you well since before the
Speaker 1: pandemic personally in real life. So how are you feeling
Speaker 1: because you have a new project Heavy that is coming out.
Speaker 3: I feel good. We got two weeks two weeks to today.
Speaker 3: I feel really good. We put out five singles.
Speaker 4: You guys have gotten to see a lot of the
Speaker 4: new met the new visuals you know, that have been
Speaker 4: very revealing. And you know, I'm you know, I'm proud
Speaker 4: of the body of work that we're putting out.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I'm proud of myself right now. I'm happy, I'm healthy,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I'm focused, and you know,
Speaker 4: for the most part.
Speaker 1: I'm sober, right for the most part. Well, let's get
Speaker 1: into that, because I said, how does it feel that
Speaker 1: also channels Di'angelo? And you did channel di' Angelo somewhat
Speaker 1: in this in this project? Right? Is that is that
Speaker 1: fair to say?
Speaker 3: Definitely? It's a couple of shout outs to him, some
Speaker 3: very blatant ones. You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: But I've been a fan of his, and you know,
Speaker 4: I've said it publicly. He's one of the many, you know,
Speaker 4: people that I look up to in music. And I
Speaker 4: think there are a lot of moments where I show
Speaker 4: love to some familiar faces, some artists in this album,
Speaker 4: and there's some easter eggs that people aren't even gonna
Speaker 4: really notice.
Speaker 1: I got to listen to it more because I only
Speaker 1: had a chance. You know, they sent us a little advance. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but we got it right before, so we don't get
Speaker 1: to Yeah started in nothing even matters because that's a d'
Speaker 1: angelo favorite with La Hill, and that's a song on
Speaker 1: here also.
Speaker 4: Man, it took me a long time to even like
Speaker 4: know who produced that and and and know that it
Speaker 4: was a D'Angel sample. I just was so attracted to
Speaker 4: the music. I was like, this sample sounds so familiar.
Speaker 4: I don't know what it is. Somebody had to tell me,
Speaker 4: and once they did, we started to plan accordingly and
Speaker 4: make sure that every time we get an opportunity to
Speaker 4: we show him his respect.
Speaker 1: And I used to work for Dangel. Really, Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a little fun fact. I didn't know that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I used to work at.
Speaker 1: Virgin Records when they started his label, Chieva Sounds. It
Speaker 1: was like the worst job of my life, No wonder
Speaker 1: you never talk. But it wasn't because of DiAngelo. It
Speaker 1: wasn't him. He was It's not like he was in
Speaker 1: the office ever, but it was while he was on
Speaker 1: that fitness journey. Mark Jenkins was his personal trainer, and
Speaker 1: I will tell you he did not show up to
Speaker 1: the studio, but he showed up to them gym sessions.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 1: He would call the office and be like, Angel, could
Speaker 1: you call Mark and tell him I want to come
Speaker 1: in this time, and then he would have the studio
Speaker 1: electric lady was locked out. But he would never show
Speaker 1: up to the studio sessions and he wouldn't let them
Speaker 1: hear his music. And that's when I met Anthony Hamilton
Speaker 1: because Anthony Hamilton was one of his backup singers. Wow
Speaker 1: you know at the time. And that's when Angie Stone
Speaker 1: was on the road with him and they ended up
Speaker 1: having a child together. Yeah, but I did used to
Speaker 1: work for him.
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: And here's the fun fact. He was a big fan
Speaker 1: of porn. So I remember when he was moving they
Speaker 1: had me go to like help facilitate. He wasn't there,
Speaker 1: but like you know, the moving and everything, and he
Speaker 1: found all his DVDs. It was DVD's for sure, like
Speaker 1: a ben Yeah, wow, fun fact.
Speaker 5: I was at that video how does it feel video?
Speaker 1: You were there?
Speaker 5: I went to I went to that video shoot.
Speaker 3: I was at Love to Know.
Speaker 2: You know, we stayed for a second. I only actually
Speaker 2: went with j Dilla. Okay, yeah, we stayed for like
Speaker 2: a second.
Speaker 5: He was in zone. We were all hanging out and yeah,
Speaker 5: that's a low.
Speaker 3: Key flex right there. Yeah, have you seen that's a flex?
Speaker 1: How was it for you doing your video?
Speaker 4: By the way, because I was at bud Necker, so
Speaker 4: it wasn't I mean, And I'm proud of my body.
Speaker 3: I put a lot of work in.
Speaker 4: I did a lot of the working out by myself,
Speaker 4: like with my brother and my nephew, and we trained
Speaker 4: six days a week. I have a nutritionist name is
Speaker 4: Kevin Henderson. He does a lot for me. But like
Speaker 4: I did a.
Speaker 1: Lot of it.
Speaker 3: I don't have no personal trainer.
Speaker 4: I don't have nobody like Mark Jackson Johnson you know
Speaker 4: what I mean.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. I work out.
Speaker 4: I work out with kid when I can but I
Speaker 4: really can't afford him. I can only afford to keep
Speaker 4: him as my nutritions. So, you know, for the most part,
Speaker 4: over the last year, I've been doing a lot of
Speaker 4: my own stuff.
Speaker 3: I do sprints, I do bark, I do extra work
Speaker 3: at home, you know what I mean, just to get
Speaker 3: like this.
Speaker 4: I'm thirty seven, I'm not no kid, no more so
Speaker 4: it's hard to stay like that. And a lot of
Speaker 4: it is done in the kitchen, which I'm a foodie.
Speaker 4: I like fried chicken, I like to cook. I like
Speaker 4: you know, going and eating out, eating big. So lately
Speaker 4: I've been eating like salmon, zucchini, protein.
Speaker 1: You make it sound so boring.
Speaker 3: It's so fucking.
Speaker 5: Salmon too, But it is all yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: And it's the portions for me to fuck me up.
Speaker 4: Like I'm eating three on the calorie meals.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: You gotta do that four times to day. Two protein shakes,
Speaker 4: no salt, no carbs.
Speaker 1: How was it when you first started, no frost, nothing,
Speaker 1: How hard was it when you first started? And did
Speaker 1: you like backslide a few times?
Speaker 3: Definitely?
Speaker 4: It took it took like four months before I actually
Speaker 4: saw my abs and another three months before I was
Speaker 4: actually like shredded, and then I started to lose muscle
Speaker 4: because I couldn't keep up with the die. You know,
Speaker 4: I was skipping meals to keep the shred. So now
Speaker 4: I'm in this state where I look good, but I
Speaker 4: need to gain weight to.
Speaker 3: Do it all over again. So I'm bulking. I've been
Speaker 3: eating like crazy in New York.
Speaker 1: I love It's good.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had carbone in the Barclays Center.
Speaker 1: Oh that's because they have the Crown Room.
Speaker 3: Lillow tiny room. Somebody was like, yeah, this carbone. I
Speaker 3: was like, no, he sat down and we ate and.
Speaker 1: Take some stuff to go to. Yeah, because you were
Speaker 1: at the Brooklyn nescame. I had no idea you were
Speaker 1: a Nuts fan.
Speaker 3: Yeah, go Lakers, don't don't.
Speaker 4: It was good to see Schroder, who used to play
Speaker 4: on the Lakers. And it's my first time seeing Michil
Speaker 4: Bridges play live. I'm a big fan of his, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. I'm a fan of the NBA.
Speaker 3: You don't know that. You know, got to play an
Speaker 3: All Star with kids.
Speaker 1: I saw you, you know what I mean, telling up
Speaker 1: your muscles playing body. Oh my god, Now let's get
Speaker 1: into some things though, because you know, you started over
Speaker 1: on your Instagram page, right, and it's like a fresh
Speaker 1: start for you. But you've been through a lot these
Speaker 1: past few years that people may not have even known
Speaker 1: what's happening. Yes, so you know, I know it's something
Speaker 1: that and I feel like it's reflected in the music well,
Speaker 1: because how could it? Yeah, the album is called heavy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So talk to us about just what happened, because I
Speaker 1: know you ended up going to rehab and you know
Speaker 1: you've been up here before. We had a great time
Speaker 1: with you, and I've gone to watch your shows because
Speaker 1: honestly love you as a performer, and I think that's
Speaker 1: so important to you know, the music and being able
Speaker 1: to perform it live. So what exactly was going on
Speaker 1: with you?
Speaker 3: Oh? Man?
Speaker 4: It just started off as as you know, me, kind
Speaker 4: of not really knowing how to navigate the whole being served.
Speaker 4: I hate being sir sometimes, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: More So nowadays I'm more accepting of it, I would say,
Speaker 4: because I have a different understanding of who it is
Speaker 4: and what it does for me and my family. But
Speaker 4: when it all started, I just was lost, lost in
Speaker 4: the sauce. I like that phrase and it started affecting
Speaker 4: my relationships. I wasn't talking to anybody about it, and
Speaker 4: I started to self medicaid. Man, I talk about my
Speaker 4: wife a lot when I talk about this, because she
Speaker 4: suffered a lot. We have a three year old. She
Speaker 4: suffered a lot, you know what I mean, having to
Speaker 4: see me in these states and stuff like that. But
Speaker 4: you know, at the point the point I decided to
Speaker 4: like reach out for help, man, I thank God for
Speaker 4: that moment, because there are a lot of people that
Speaker 4: go through the same things and don't make it to
Speaker 4: the other side of it because they never reach out.
Speaker 4: They never get a chance to really talk about it.
Speaker 4: So it took a lot for and she I really
Speaker 4: didn't even really get a chance to talk about it.
Speaker 3: I got caught. I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 4: But once I did get caught, and it was the
Speaker 4: cat was out the bag and it was official that
Speaker 4: I was fucked up. And you know, we started to
Speaker 4: work on the steps, you know, and I did the work.
Speaker 1: And what do you mean you got caught?
Speaker 3: Oh? Man, I had a surgery. Right, let's just say
Speaker 3: I had a surgery.
Speaker 4: And before you go into anaesthesi you have to tell
Speaker 4: the doctor what you've been on with kind of drugs
Speaker 4: you've done over the last seventy two hours. And I
Speaker 4: had to write that shit down, so I don't get
Speaker 4: my DC power. I don't say it live, I won't
Speaker 4: say it to y'all, but I had to write that
Speaker 4: shit down, Memma. If he came in the room, my
Speaker 4: wife's sitting.
Speaker 3: Next to me, was like, so, you drank some alcohol,
Speaker 3: smoked some weed, pomps and pills, did this and that,
Speaker 3: and she was and she was like, excuse me, and
Speaker 3: I said, yes, He's like okay, cool, thank you. I
Speaker 3: walked out the room.
Speaker 4: And of course after that, you know, it wasn't There
Speaker 4: was no keeping of the secret. I was already like
Speaker 4: sick around the house and she thought it was something else,
Speaker 4: but it was me just trying to recover from the
Speaker 4: night of me doing drugs all night.
Speaker 1: And this all like, you had your first child together,
Speaker 1: so this is all happening with the baby, and she
Speaker 1: probably was already dealing with a lot maybe when.
Speaker 3: It came to that, but yeah, definitely not for sure.
Speaker 4: And I mean just trying to navigate it while we're
Speaker 4: trying to get me sober, because she was pregnant when
Speaker 4: all this was happening. So as soon as we found
Speaker 4: out during her pregnancy, I tried to go.
Speaker 3: I went to rehab. Sucked horrible, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: For the first you know, for the first time was
Speaker 3: like three weeks. It went well, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I got out, got high immediately right second time lasted
Speaker 4: six months. I did great, did all the steps, you know,
Speaker 4: got got past the worst of it, relapsed this time.
Speaker 3: I didn't go back to a normal rehab though.
Speaker 4: Me and Top kind of came up with a plant,
Speaker 4: like tuck me to the side and like take my phone,
Speaker 4: take my car, take my keys.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, you really really well know, let's sit here
Speaker 3: for a year and a half. Let's sit here. I
Speaker 3: got the time, we got the time.
Speaker 1: And you got And you know what's great about that,
Speaker 1: because some people would be concerned about the music, like
Speaker 1: you got to put something out. It's hot right now.
Speaker 3: Forever, nigga. I'm not.
Speaker 4: I'm not talking nigga that makes music because it's a fad.
Speaker 4: I do this because I'm connected to God. Yeah, it's different.
Speaker 4: So Top's not gonna just put some bullshit out and
Speaker 4: he's definitely not gonna let me put the gold out
Speaker 4: while I'm not able to present it or represent myself.
Speaker 1: How did Top Dog find out to him and tell
Speaker 1: him or did he he knew?
Speaker 3: Hef top new before Kelly?
Speaker 4: Did top knew a long time ago? But topic you know,
Speaker 4: you know, it probably wouldn't help me. Top was very
Speaker 4: gentle about this, And I mean, we come from a
Speaker 4: place where this is normal. Niggas don't know me like that.
Speaker 4: They hear my music and I think I'm this thing.
Speaker 4: I'm a nigga from the streets. Fuck you don't don't
Speaker 4: put no box on me. You don't know where I
Speaker 4: come from. You don't know that I both my parents
Speaker 4: was crackheads. You don't know why being an addict is
Speaker 4: like a thing in my family, right and it's normal
Speaker 4: in my community and has been, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Don't talk to me about this ship until you really
Speaker 4: know who I am, really, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I've seen so much, you know what I mean, before
Speaker 4: I went through my own addiction, I've seen so much.
Speaker 1: You know, you also come from a family of people
Speaker 1: in the music business right too, and so it kind
Speaker 1: of a lot of times in the music business that
Speaker 1: just kind of does exist too. You know in general.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think it amplifies it. It And to me,
Speaker 4: we talked about this all the time. I was talking
Speaker 4: with Sway earlier about this, like, we don't, we don't,
Speaker 4: We're not for this kind of attention, you know.
Speaker 3: What I mean. And it's it's it's only until you.
Speaker 4: Get it that you realize there's a certain way you
Speaker 4: have to be and I have to act. And when
Speaker 4: you see people succeeding in the music industry and actually
Speaker 4: succeeding in life, they're following those rules. And it's simple,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. It's it should be built
Speaker 4: into your strategy. Routine is a that's the most important thing.
Speaker 4: I mean, well, hallelujah, God is the most important thing, right,
Speaker 4: Routine is second. Let's stop there. Yeah yeah, but you know,
Speaker 4: and no, let's switch it up. Let's let's let's add
Speaker 4: routine in the mix. But let's just say family and like,
Speaker 4: just like your home, life is your life. Being sir
Speaker 4: is a gift.
Speaker 3: Is special, you know what I mean. I'm not.
Speaker 4: I'm not special. Being sir is special. That job is great.
Speaker 4: I got hired to do it. I am nothing but
Speaker 4: the man that is hired to be sir, I'm Daryl Fairs.
Speaker 4: When I leave, I'm Sir Darryl at the house. But
Speaker 4: I'm supposed to be home, you know. And this album
Speaker 4: just really goes through the motions of the last.
Speaker 3: Four years for me. It talks about everything.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, And what was the first
Speaker 1: song that you wrote that was on here?
Speaker 3: Woo heavy yourself? I've been killing myself softly wakeing of remembering.
Speaker 3: I'm losing sleep over dreams that were coming true. I
Speaker 3: was tweaking when I wrote that song, Wow Wow, scared
Speaker 3: out of my mind.
Speaker 4: I didn't want to talk to nobody about it, wanted
Speaker 4: to just just I wanted people to know. Though people
Speaker 4: heard that song and still didn't get it. Though some
Speaker 4: days I'm just fine with except that I won't change
Speaker 4: and maybe a little more time before I get sick
Speaker 4: of these games, might as well enjoy this ride. I'm
Speaker 4: the passenger of my own ship, auto pilot and game changing,
Speaker 4: hanging out the window this whole trip, like I.
Speaker 3: Was talking like crazy. I was talking about me getting
Speaker 3: doped up and not.
Speaker 1: You know, because people also had no idea what you
Speaker 1: were going through. And that's why once you know that,
Speaker 1: it connects it you know a lot better because clearly,
Speaker 1: like before we got this, I knew you knew, yeah,
Speaker 1: having this journey. But if I would have heard that,
Speaker 1: I would have just thought you were being very creative,
Speaker 1: creative right right.
Speaker 3: And it's a beautiful song.
Speaker 4: That's I think that's the real the what we wanted
Speaker 4: to work in with the juxtaposition between you know, what
Speaker 4: we're actually saying and what you're hearing. So it sounds
Speaker 4: really fluffy and very nice, but I'm talking the work
Speaker 4: just cut off of three.
Speaker 3: Day venders still enjoying a ride.
Speaker 1: And I was just thinking, like he just was drinking
Speaker 1: a lot. Like when I heard that, I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: but three days as a bender even drinking is a lot.
Speaker 4: I've been talking my shit up and I respect to
Speaker 4: and I say this is a weird thing to say,
Speaker 4: but respect to alcoholics and people in recovery, any type
Speaker 4: of DC. Don't think drinking is something that you should
Speaker 4: pass over and look like and not to say, y'all
Speaker 4: having fun right now is something that you got to
Speaker 4: worry about. But like for an alcoholic, a real alcoholic
Speaker 4: who those motherfuckers.
Speaker 3: Are scared reap you read about that, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Look you know, alcohol is not to be fucked with,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And it's just like any
Speaker 4: other thing. Marijuana can be an addiction. It's not my addiction.
Speaker 4: It's my pleasure. It's something I enjoy. I'm not like,
Speaker 4: oh weed here, I gotta smoke all the time. I
Speaker 4: just like it, you know what I mean. And it's
Speaker 4: the thing that I do that doesn't harm my path,
Speaker 4: my life.
Speaker 3: It doesn't affect anything.
Speaker 4: It makes me a better version of myself in instances
Speaker 4: where I needed to.
Speaker 3: It doesn't do what you know it does to weed heads.
Speaker 1: How often do you smoke?
Speaker 3: Probably like four.
Speaker 4: Or five days a week, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Not every day and definitely not like I used to.
Speaker 4: I used to try to smoke to go to sleep.
Speaker 3: It didn't work. I used to Yeah, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: I know people who wake up and before they brush it.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah, And I'm like, you got it.
Speaker 5: They just smoke all.
Speaker 1: And it's an expensive habit yeah oh yeah, because you
Speaker 1: can't smoke no trash.
Speaker 4: Yeah, now, CALLI is a little cheaper, That's what I
Speaker 4: was gonna say.
Speaker 3: Super expensive. So you know, I definitely keep weed on
Speaker 3: me for sure.
Speaker 1: Can we talk about the song only human, Yeah, because
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like only human is what guys
Speaker 1: say when they mess up to you, like to women, like, look,
Speaker 1: I'm a human, I'm a work in progress. You know
Speaker 1: I'm talking about to me, I.
Speaker 3: Thought it was a vivid way to paint, you know,
Speaker 3: my infidelities, that's all.
Speaker 4: And really that's an eight year old song. Was crazy
Speaker 4: about that. As I wrote there, before I did anything
Speaker 4: or made any mistakes or anything like that. It was
Speaker 4: just I was like, this would be a cool way
Speaker 4: to say I cheated.
Speaker 3: Wow, and regret it. I really regret that.
Speaker 4: I regret writing it in certain moments because it's it's
Speaker 4: just it was me.
Speaker 3: It was me. It's not me anymore.
Speaker 4: I definitely you know, I have a gracious wife. I'm
Speaker 4: still with my wife.
Speaker 1: You know that's amazing. Yeah, you hear here, let me
Speaker 1: tell you. And I also want to say that, like,
Speaker 1: even before this album, you did talk a lot about
Speaker 1: the struggles of being on the road and being faithful.
Speaker 4: And you know, I fought the good fight. I ain't
Speaker 4: gonna lie to you. I tried my damn this. But
Speaker 4: when we talk about like, man, where I've been to,
Speaker 4: what I've seen and the opportunities I've had in my life.
Speaker 4: It's like nothing you'll ever get like and and man,
Speaker 4: people like that attention, people like that energy, and it's
Speaker 4: it's hard to stay focused, it really is. You have
Speaker 4: to you have to be ground dead. And I was not,
Speaker 4: you know, I was not and learned some hard lessons.
Speaker 4: Lessons got kicked out of my house, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. I don't got no pushover. It wasn't like
Speaker 4: I was like this third and she's like baby, it
Speaker 4: was it was fisticuffs, you know, it wasn't it was.
Speaker 3: It was not games.
Speaker 4: And you know, I've been showing a lot of grace
Speaker 4: and that's what I That's what I want to.
Speaker 3: Show anybody else that's going through anything like that, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I just want to show them love and grace because
Speaker 4: hopefully they you know, they have somebody like I do
Speaker 4: on their side, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I'm blessed and I know it.
Speaker 1: You felt like it was going to be over, Like
Speaker 1: was she ever like.
Speaker 3: We were done? Yeah? We were done. We were done.
Speaker 1: How did you get back? Because that's one thing that
Speaker 1: guys always trying to figure out time.
Speaker 3: I've known this one since I was fifteen, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. So it's different.
Speaker 4: Then, and there was never a time where we weren't
Speaker 4: gonna be co parents, so you know, our emotions were
Speaker 4: kind of like set to the side really quickly, hard
Speaker 4: to kind of hide and spilt right on over into
Speaker 4: the bedroom and we.
Speaker 1: Just that can patch things up way right back.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, just a lot of it was conversation,
Speaker 4: like and painful conversation, but definitely that room.
Speaker 1: You know what that is so crazy because guys would
Speaker 1: tell you that is like the most passionate sec use,
Speaker 1: but they go up. It's very toxic, you know. That's
Speaker 1: what y'all do, whatever you gotta do. It's all about pleasing,
Speaker 1: makes good and going and saying all the right things.
Speaker 4: Ext I definitely like I've broken down so many times
Speaker 4: I can't count, and my wife has seen the ugliest
Speaker 4: side of me, you know, and I think I think
Speaker 4: that kind of vulnerability is.
Speaker 3: It's it's hard to.
Speaker 4: It's hard to it's hard to accept, but it's hard
Speaker 4: not to accept, like when somebody's that truthful.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. I was, I was blatant,
Speaker 3: I was ugly and was sick all at the same time.
Speaker 3: I was an anecdote. All during all this, you know what.
Speaker 4: I mean, And that was the biggest part of my addiction.
Speaker 4: I'm a god fearing, god feeled man. So to have
Speaker 4: stepped out of my house because I thought I had
Speaker 4: something that I didn't or it was was somebody that
Speaker 4: I wasn't was not sitting well in my spirit, and
Speaker 4: the only way that I was like getting through getting
Speaker 4: by was self medicating.
Speaker 1: Was this during the pandemic too? Yeah, okay, the pandemic.
Speaker 3: So I was stuck at the crib.
Speaker 4: I was literally lived downtown, was going down to my
Speaker 4: parking lot car and just doing my thing for hours
Speaker 4: on end, for days on end. She was knocked out
Speaker 4: in the bed, didn't know I was downstairs in the
Speaker 4: living room while she was sleep doing my thing, going crazy.
Speaker 1: How much of a role did that the pandemic play
Speaker 1: in this too, because.
Speaker 4: No idea knew that it fucked everybody up, but didn't
Speaker 4: know that. It was like weighing so heavy on what
Speaker 4: was going on with my own personal challenge, But looking back,
Speaker 4: it was, oh man, COVID was hard.
Speaker 3: Cold. That COVID period was hard.
Speaker 1: Because there's also a time where you got to be
Speaker 1: out making money, on the road things are hot, yep.
Speaker 1: And then now everything hadn't been used to being home.
Speaker 3: Right, and I was downtown in La too.
Speaker 4: But the thing about me, though, I was slick as fuck,
Speaker 4: so I wasn't like I never felt that kind of pressure.
Speaker 4: I got what I needed, I got an nowhere to go. No, no, no,
Speaker 4: I had money.
Speaker 3: That's the thing, y'all gotta remember, like I was, sir.
Speaker 3: So it wasn't getting getting drugs or getting.
Speaker 4: What I needed was easy for show outn't pay niggas
Speaker 4: rent for show out and bought a Porsche Panama with
Speaker 4: a dope for show.
Speaker 3: I didn't lost it all. Y'all don't understand.
Speaker 4: I was an added that I wasn't no like, no, no,
Speaker 4: it wasn't no little thing it was.
Speaker 1: And the thing, like you said, you are sir, So
Speaker 1: was it also embarrassing that like these people are serving.
Speaker 3: You smoke smoke?
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, it wasn't embarrassing. Oh man, I didn't care.
Speaker 1: I didn't because, like you know, I'm giving, sir.
Speaker 3: But they treated me like they loved me. Why would
Speaker 3: they not.
Speaker 4: I'm keeping the block hot, why would they not? Yeah,
Speaker 4: I got the money they want, Why would they need, not.
Speaker 3: What they need.
Speaker 1: I feel like some people think that's a rock star
Speaker 1: thing too. Like I feel like in the music business
Speaker 1: you do stuff like that and it's not as frowned
Speaker 1: upon because it's like rock star vibes like.
Speaker 3: And if that is true, I'll be the first to
Speaker 3: stand up against it because that I mean, I definitely
Speaker 3: didn't have didn't get that feeling from the people around me.
Speaker 3: People around me want to be to be healthy, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I definitely wasn't encouraged or pushed in the direction I
Speaker 4: was pushed.
Speaker 3: This was a choice I made on my own.
Speaker 1: Well no, but sometimes people just kind of accept it
Speaker 1: more when you know it's because they're like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: sir right again, but you know, he is a artist.
Speaker 4: I think that's more. I think that's more people that
Speaker 4: see it don't want to talk about it. That isn't
Speaker 4: anyone's fault. That is that's that's more of the addicts fault.
Speaker 4: Drugs are never the fault of somebody that's watching it happen,
Speaker 4: especially somebody that doesn't understand. I appreciate you for saying that,
Speaker 4: because this point is very poignant. You don't blame somebody
Speaker 4: for non understanding. You don't if somebody's watching somebody get
Speaker 4: high and they're.
Speaker 3: Like, what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 4: They don't know what drug they're using, they don't see
Speaker 4: them in jesting it. They don't they don't actually know
Speaker 4: what's going on, but they feel it in their spirit.
Speaker 3: You can't be mad at that person. You got to
Speaker 3: be mad at that. You gotta be mad at the
Speaker 3: motherfucker's trying to hide it and trying to act normal
Speaker 3: and trying to be mad at that.
Speaker 4: But don't be mad at the person that's trying to
Speaker 4: figure out what the fuck's going on.
Speaker 1: And that brings us to this song Trying my heart is.
Speaker 3: That song makes me cry.
Speaker 1: Fucking was gonna say, I can see it.
Speaker 4: Is okay, but like performing it live. I've tried to
Speaker 4: rehearse it in live and mark two seconds inn and
Speaker 4: definitely wrote that after the second relapse I was talking
Speaker 4: about so the first time around.
Speaker 3: Definitely lost my shit.
Speaker 4: Three days after I got out of the door second time,
Speaker 4: after a long period of not messing up, I messed
Speaker 4: up and I wrote that song. I'm trying my hardest
Speaker 4: plent to sy give it time, hope that it grows
Speaker 4: energy is hard to find. I know that you know
Speaker 4: promises I want to keep in keeping me down, but
Speaker 4: I know how I would feel if I can't keep
Speaker 4: you around. So I meditate, got my mind focused on you.
Speaker 3: Change your pace. It ain't a race.
Speaker 4: I'm chasing the truth, sick of all the pain that
Speaker 4: I've been putting you through. I keep getting it wrong,
Speaker 4: but I know that I'm trying my hardest. I wish
Speaker 4: more people really like read lyrics and paid attention. Whate
Speaker 4: motherfuckers were saying, if they pay attention to what I'm
Speaker 4: actually saying on this, they'll, they'll, they'll.
Speaker 1: That sounds to me really touched me too, though, just
Speaker 1: actually knowing what you went through and knowing that it's
Speaker 1: probably the especially towards it's also towards the end of
Speaker 1: the album, and so knowing that, like you've done the
Speaker 1: no Evil six whole Days, six whole Days, which is
Speaker 1: just you on that song, and you're talking about just
Speaker 1: looking at the sun, and so basically you've been up.
Speaker 4: And so that song represents a bad time.
Speaker 3: I was just telling somebody that was I.
Speaker 4: Was going through it when I wrote that song, just
Speaker 4: after the last Relapse. It was just a day that
Speaker 4: had been way too long, and I was in my
Speaker 4: mother's backyard just looking up at the sky and that
Speaker 4: that idea came and I sang it to my mom
Speaker 4: as a joke and she laughed, and then I just
Speaker 4: went inside and actually like kind of jotted it down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it worked out. It turned out. That's uncle
Speaker 3: playing bass, that's my mom singing about Wow. Me and
Speaker 3: cale Banks shout out to.
Speaker 4: Cow and definitely my uncle Andrew is like he's a
Speaker 4: god of base. He's a god of gospel based people
Speaker 4: know him. We our careers started from the Q base
Speaker 4: that he gave us and the Excel board that he
Speaker 4: gave us back in the day. He gave us everything
Speaker 4: that we've ever worked on, all the equipment and always
Speaker 4: put you know, our careers first, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Love him to death.
Speaker 4: So anytime I get an opportunity to work with him,
Speaker 4: I do. And he's like excited to work with me,
Speaker 4: which is crazy, Like hello, what he's like sixty hours,
Speaker 4: Like sixty one I believe. But you know, I still
Speaker 4: see him as the young who like driving a Porsche
Speaker 4: Uncle Andrew tour in the world musician, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, And the like that song in particular is
Speaker 4: a blessing to have on the roster because I got
Speaker 4: so many family members attached to it.
Speaker 3: On that too, my brother Dave.
Speaker 1: So y'all got like it is. I really like that.
Speaker 1: You know, how hard is it too, even when you're
Speaker 1: listening to this album knowing what you are going through,
Speaker 1: you know on so many of these songs, like and
Speaker 1: I know you're planning a tour so you'll be performing this.
Speaker 3: I mean, this is this is the most emotional I'll
Speaker 3: ever be, for sure.
Speaker 4: It's I mean, it's difficult listening back. But I'm not
Speaker 4: in the place anymore. I don't I don't go there anymore.
Speaker 4: I'm I'm stuck in my routine. I'm focused on the
Speaker 4: right things, and I know what I have to do.
Speaker 4: I have to sing it.
Speaker 3: I have to sing it.
Speaker 1: For your wife to hear some of this.
Speaker 4: She don't listen to it. Wow, we don't listen to it.
Speaker 4: And I don't play in my house. I don't force
Speaker 4: it on you know what I mean. I ain't gonna
Speaker 4: do that. It's no point.
Speaker 3: I gotta listen.
Speaker 1: I have to listen to What are the rules now?
Speaker 1: With everything that you guys have been through things change
Speaker 1: in the household, right, and there are certain things that
Speaker 1: you have to, like really continue to prove yourself.
Speaker 4: One of the biggest things that we do is we
Speaker 4: keep a very very open been in the line of communication, like.
Speaker 3: Calls whenever calls all the time. We have fun with it.
Speaker 3: I actually enjoy it, like more than she does.
Speaker 4: I call her all the time, like what I love
Speaker 4: to I'm in the background, and we just talked constantly.
Speaker 4: And of course, you know, I got open phone privileges,
Speaker 4: which you know, was never really a big thing in
Speaker 4: our relationship. She's never wanted to check my phone, but
Speaker 4: nowadays she can grab my phone ever she.
Speaker 3: Wants to look through it. Of course, everything's cool, you.
Speaker 4: Know, and just a lot of prayer and a lot
Speaker 4: of like rough conversations, you know, we don't have them
Speaker 4: too much anymore, but a lot of rough me saying
Speaker 4: stuff that I should have said a long time ago,
Speaker 4: stuff she don't want to hear, and me, you know,
Speaker 4: trying to talk.
Speaker 3: Through things that she needs from me and figure things out.
Speaker 3: A lot of tough conversations.
Speaker 1: Does she want to know everything you did? Because I
Speaker 1: know sometimes okay, some people want to know, like Kim
Speaker 1: help you went through it went through? Did you want
Speaker 1: to know it all?
Speaker 2: When I was going through it, I was looking for answers, right,
Speaker 2: like so like the the I think for me, the
Speaker 2: why of it all was really the answer.
Speaker 4: That's a huge thing because the why attached to the
Speaker 4: why is like his.
Speaker 3: Emotions, right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Like what am I doing wrong? It comes first, That's
Speaker 4: what she think, Kelly. I'm just speaking from my wife.
Speaker 4: I know there's probably some similarities, but like what she thought?
Speaker 3: What am I doing wrong? What did I do wrong?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Or like where's his head been?
Speaker 4: Like how did he get to the point where do
Speaker 4: we miss where he got to the point where he
Speaker 4: thought he needed this as his outlet?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: And it's not exactly but the kind And this is
Speaker 4: one of those tricky conversations where it's it's it's so
Speaker 4: much deeper than that and bigger than that, but it's
Speaker 4: it's a whole different mindset, and especially me being served,
Speaker 4: my mindset was not that It wasn't that I was
Speaker 4: falling in love at all.
Speaker 3: In any instance. My heart was never the thing that
Speaker 3: was in it.
Speaker 4: It was in addiction and be an emotional like almost released,
Speaker 4: like there was no emotion.
Speaker 1: Attached to disconnect.
Speaker 3: It was a disconnect.
Speaker 4: It was the exact opposite, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: And I don't you know, say that's for everybody, you know,
Speaker 4: that was your situation.
Speaker 3: That was my situation where I was, I was disconnecting.
Speaker 1: And what did her fan? Did her family know what
Speaker 1: was going on? And where they like, I'm sure they
Speaker 1: know now, Okay now, because sometimes people share too much
Speaker 1: and then it kind of can ruin.
Speaker 4: This ain't nobody business with mine? No, at the end
Speaker 4: of the day, Like that's what me and Kelly do know.
Speaker 4: And that's this is a mistake that a lot of
Speaker 4: people make, is they bring people into these situations.
Speaker 3: Nobody has any word or say, in.
Speaker 4: My eye, we got fists for you, I got fisticuffs
Speaker 4: for you.
Speaker 3: Nobody has any word in our situation.
Speaker 1: Did y'all do like any type of therapy, couple's therapy
Speaker 1: or nothing?
Speaker 4: We did an individual therapy, okay, individuals for sure, Yeah,
Speaker 4: a couple therapy.
Speaker 3: We've talked about it, prayed about it.
Speaker 1: How was therapy for you?
Speaker 3: Great?
Speaker 4: Wonderful, very eye opening, very self revealing, Like how mag oh,
Speaker 4: my gosh. I learned a lot about like forgiveness in
Speaker 4: my therapy, you know, self forgiveness huge radics. We don't
Speaker 4: know how you know what I mean. That's one of
Speaker 4: our first problems is not being able to talk about
Speaker 4: it and not be able to move past it, able
Speaker 4: to forgive ourselves for the things we've done, because a
Speaker 4: lot of it's like things we don't talk about, like
Speaker 4: people never see type shit. But forgiveness. My therapist was
Speaker 4: great at giving me that gift, you know, and we talked.
Speaker 4: We talked a lot about routine, you know, like me
Speaker 4: figuring out what my routine was. She's the one that
Speaker 4: got me like back focused on like the gym and
Speaker 4: stuff like that, and switched that dopamine on for me,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, And like, oh.
Speaker 3: She's great.
Speaker 1: You think you're addicted to the gym.
Speaker 3: Now I know. I'm addicted to them.
Speaker 1: It's not a bad addiction. But not all addictions are bad, No.
Speaker 3: No, for sure. For sure. I used to be addicted
Speaker 3: to gummy bears, you know what I mean. I much
Speaker 3: rather be addicted to sprints.
Speaker 1: Man. I used to always eat gummy beers from the
Speaker 1: stomach first. Is that crazy? The stomach. When I was little,
Speaker 1: I used to eat the stomach and why vended? And
Speaker 1: then I would do that and act like they were
Speaker 1: in pain.
Speaker 3: Would you like to talk?
Speaker 1: You talk to them before you did, and then they
Speaker 1: would look very like distorted, you know, it would.
Speaker 3: Look like screaming and the hurt.
Speaker 1: I really killed this gummy beer stomach first.
Speaker 5: I think mutilated stomach off of gummy bears.
Speaker 1: I was the next time I eat a gummy beer,
Speaker 1: I want.
Speaker 3: To do that.
Speaker 4: I want to talk to like, what's your last word?
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna live?
Speaker 5: Now that's weird.
Speaker 1: Okay, so gummy bears beers, and now you're to zucchini.
Speaker 1: Actually I love I love zucchini too. But the way
Speaker 1: he said like salmon zucchati, you.
Speaker 4: Know, I think I was switching at all. Right, So
Speaker 4: I eat according to like my blood type and your
Speaker 4: blood low cor uh?
Speaker 1: Oh unusual? Wasn't that like the most unusual?
Speaker 5: Positive?
Speaker 3: Negative?
Speaker 5: Your oh? Positives? Pretty common?
Speaker 3: Pretty comb is the most.
Speaker 5: Baby My daughter has a.
Speaker 3: Really Oh do they ask her to get blood all
Speaker 3: the time? Not yet they will as an adult every month.
Speaker 3: You know, Okay, you're a positive.
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Oh wow, you know our diets are so different, like
Speaker 4: what our bodies digest and how it digests are very similar.
Speaker 3: So I can't. I've told her I can't do red meat.
Speaker 3: I can, but it's not yeah you know, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: but I can do beef. You can do lamb.
Speaker 4: Lamb is great for us. You know, salmon's great for us.
Speaker 4: Any kind of white fish is great for us. Chicken, no,
Speaker 4: fried chicken. Chicken is neutral, which is crazy.
Speaker 1: Love.
Speaker 3: I love chicken. Dark meat not so much, you know,
Speaker 3: I mean too much. Fact. Yeah, but avocados bad for us.
Speaker 5: I've never heard avocado a lot of I love ala.
Speaker 1: I just had avocado for the first time. I don't
Speaker 1: but it doesn't. Yeah, I don't like it.
Speaker 3: You don't. You guys are weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I'm like a superrigy eater. I just
Speaker 1: had it for the first I don't like the consistency,
Speaker 1: I don't like the texture.
Speaker 4: My daughter, the first I would try to give it
Speaker 4: to her, she made this face that I will never forget.
Speaker 4: It was like it was like the face like was like,
Speaker 4: why hast out forsaken?
Speaker 1: How did life change after? I mean, I know you
Speaker 1: were going through a lot, like while your wife was pregnant,
Speaker 1: but you have a daughter. You know what were some
Speaker 1: great moments from having a little girl?
Speaker 4: Oh Man, one of the best was like her first
Speaker 4: time walking.
Speaker 3: She started walking when she was like a year and
Speaker 3: like a month.
Speaker 1: Little girls walking earlier than boy.
Speaker 4: But I mean, I just I just know that from
Speaker 4: the time she started walking, it was almost like she
Speaker 4: started running the next day.
Speaker 3: She's the fastest person in our house.
Speaker 4: And like we talk about lely because she she's a toddler,
Speaker 4: full on tiller now but likes to like do this
Speaker 4: thing where you say come here, and she says and.
Speaker 3: Goes the opposite direction. One of the favorite games to play.
Speaker 4: But she's like a football Like she's like a wide receiver.
Speaker 4: How she dodges and jukes. You reach for her shoulder drops,
Speaker 4: she moves back. She's just the jukester. She's like she's
Speaker 4: the swiftest like ninja that I've ever met in my life.
Speaker 4: And you know, just our conversations are sweet. That the
Speaker 4: most innocent things I've ever had my life.
Speaker 1: And she's she's three now, so that's she's in school.
Speaker 1: That's a good age. And everything you say and you
Speaker 1: could tell that they really understand you. Know everything, body train, and.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're we're definitely at the stage where we're like
Speaker 4: considering another baby and like, you know time, I definitely
Speaker 4: what I would take another girl in a heartbeat.
Speaker 3: That's one of those choices that I would never ever
Speaker 3: want to make or make a face about. I'd be
Speaker 3: happy with anything. Man.
Speaker 4: You know, me and my wife been together a long time.
Speaker 4: We was trying to have kids in our twenties. You know,
Speaker 4: we were blessed with a kid in our in our
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So to have another one,
Speaker 4: what a miracle. You know, what a miracle.
Speaker 1: Y'all have been through so many You've been through so much. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I'm so happy that you're in this space that you're
Speaker 1: in right now. How long has it been since you've
Speaker 1: been pretty much.
Speaker 3: Sober and going on? Four months or three months?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Man, all this was like happen it in twenty twenty
Speaker 4: It's twenty four, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: So the worst of it was over in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1: When did you get comfortable talking about it?
Speaker 3: What's today? Over the last like six months, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, I've.
Speaker 4: I've had a few chances to talk about it in private,
Speaker 4: that kind of helped me get ready to talk about
Speaker 4: it in public, talk about it with some people that
Speaker 4: I wanted to talk about it with, nephews, uncles, aunts,
Speaker 4: you know, people that knew but didn't know, had heard
Speaker 4: but hadn't seen, or wasn't sure, wasn't sure.
Speaker 1: Is there anything that is there anything that you think
Speaker 1: that anybody could have said to you that would have mattered,
Speaker 1: because I know a lot of times there's a lot
Speaker 1: of people that are you know, dealing with somebody close
Speaker 1: to them and are trying to figure out how to navigate.
Speaker 1: But sometimes like I don't know if there's nothing you
Speaker 1: can say or is there anything that you feel like
Speaker 1: could have helped.
Speaker 3: I mean, people tried, but I think.
Speaker 4: One of the main things that I've learned is, you know,
Speaker 4: the first thing is you have to want to help yourself.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: You can't yeah, and someone's not ready, they can't receive that.
Speaker 4: You have the strongest support system around you. But if
Speaker 4: you're not ready to make the steps, nothing's gonna change.
Speaker 1: Did it make you duck people if they were trying
Speaker 1: to talk to you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember one time in particular, being mood. Laugh
Speaker 4: at this now but Musa who being Musa fucking which
Speaker 4: we had to meet in at Apple and I had
Speaker 4: a brand new car. I just bought a car, brand
Speaker 4: new Tesla and a man, I just was not in
Speaker 4: any position to show up to this meeting.
Speaker 3: And I called Mouse. I was like, hey, man, I'm.
Speaker 4: Sorry, bro, but I got a flat tire. I'm stuck
Speaker 4: on the side of the road. Man, I can't They're
Speaker 4: not gonna be able to get to me for another hour.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna make it. He's like, all right, you
Speaker 4: want me to reschedule? Okay, bye, hung up the phone,
Speaker 4: turned my phone off, and just continue to do some
Speaker 4: bullshit and.
Speaker 3: That kind of stuff. Now it's like funny to think about.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I've been through a lot, man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so when is the tour going to start?
Speaker 1: He's like, I don't know, July.
Speaker 4: With July August where we're playing dates right now. We're
Speaker 4: still trying to figure it out.
Speaker 1: But man, when I tell you got to see Sarah perform,
Speaker 1: and I gotta go, I have not pretty good you know,
Speaker 1: I don't be outside like that.
Speaker 4: I definitely went to I had to, you know, and
Speaker 4: this was gonna be a lot different I'm simplified things.
Speaker 4: I think I've grown a lot of my artistry as
Speaker 4: a person. You know, I definitely want to, you know,
Speaker 4: make sure that the tour is proper this time around,
Speaker 4: the last time I wasn't even so, I wasn't so
Speaker 4: all the way sober on tour.
Speaker 1: I mean it was, I mean I couldn't tell so nobody.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it was the beginning of the end for me.
Speaker 4: But still this time around, I know I'm a lot
Speaker 4: I've been focused a lot more on my vocal. I've
Speaker 4: been doing a lot more singing, you know, I've been
Speaker 4: doing a lot more cardio. It's a lot more personal work,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So I'm excited to show
Speaker 4: this version of myself.
Speaker 1: You have your shirt off.
Speaker 3: They pay me extra make now have you.
Speaker 1: Have you spoken to DeAngelo at all?
Speaker 3: Never? Not a once.
Speaker 1: I feel like that could happen though, Like have you
Speaker 1: tried or figured?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I barely man the features that I
Speaker 4: got on my my gcause they the hummies.
Speaker 3: I don't be reaching out.
Speaker 1: So Anderson Pack, I love that song.
Speaker 3: My bros man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's single now and probably Jesus.
Speaker 4: Man, I'm always praying for him. Man, that's a good
Speaker 4: friend of mine for sure.
Speaker 1: He was talking about his Vegas residency. Ain't it crazy
Speaker 1: how these Vegas residencies are no joke right now? Like
Speaker 1: we need to be. It used to be like Vegas residency.
Speaker 1: You looked at it like okay, you know this person.
Speaker 1: But now it's like it's.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it used to be strikes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Celine Dion had like that Vegas residency
Speaker 1: that was you know, but it wasn't for us necessarily right.
Speaker 1: And then when we had a chance to see like
Speaker 1: you know, Bruno Mars and Anderson Pack and Wu Tang
Speaker 1: and now jo Toasy and new addition Usher really changed
Speaker 1: the game.
Speaker 5: Yea did change the game?
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Did you see that show?
Speaker 1: You know it's crazy. I did not, Okay, and I can't.
Speaker 3: I didn't.
Speaker 1: I want to see new additions and I want to see, yes,
Speaker 1: new editions in Vegas now.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't wait.
Speaker 1: That might be a good date night for you. Give
Speaker 1: me something to do, go right on down to Vegas.
Speaker 3: We have to take our daughter as we got no
Speaker 3: baby shitter nobody.
Speaker 1: You don't let nobody watch the baby. But you guys
Speaker 1: have family members.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, sure, it's not thing you.
Speaker 1: All at those parents like nobody's.
Speaker 3: I mean my mom for sure, but we don't you know,
Speaker 3: push that on her. Would love to though she loves to.
Speaker 4: No, she does ever softer, But my my daughter doesn't
Speaker 4: like go hang out and spending the night at other
Speaker 4: kid's house.
Speaker 1: Is that not you know I was talking about.
Speaker 5: That's so I think that's the first kid thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we did that.
Speaker 5: That was like, oh, it's my first kid. By the
Speaker 5: time y'all get to the third baby, you're gonna.
Speaker 1: Be like, yeah, is there anybody that can take this child?
Speaker 4: The one time we did it, this was like a
Speaker 4: couple of weeks ago. I swear to god, we tried
Speaker 4: it out. We send it to our sister's house, send
Speaker 4: her to Dan's wife and uh you know, Ange's sweetest part.
Speaker 3: They have great relationships. There are other kids at the house.
Speaker 4: Man brought my daughter back sick oft dog and my
Speaker 4: wife has been sick for two weeks.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: Well you know them kids always get when they go
Speaker 1: to school, especially oh.
Speaker 3: My god, this was serious. Those one of those like
Speaker 3: whooping coughs.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what I mean. They come back with
Speaker 5: all types of six.
Speaker 1: My parents would never let me spend the night at
Speaker 1: anybody's house growing up, But everybody used to spend the
Speaker 1: night at my house.
Speaker 4: Come on over, our house is clean. We'll keep you
Speaker 4: clean and send you home clean.
Speaker 1: He's not going to get cleaner.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we learned our lesson.
Speaker 4: I feel like that was like, I mean, it was
Speaker 4: important for us to try, for sure, but we understand
Speaker 4: with our daughter, especially like she's not you know, no,
Speaker 4: she's not ready for that.
Speaker 2: You know, That's how I was with my daughter. I'm
Speaker 2: telling right now, I don't know where my kids at
Speaker 2: right now, I'm like, where, Well, your.
Speaker 1: Kids wrong though I feel like they yeah, they.
Speaker 2: Can, but when you have your third kid, you're like,
Speaker 2: I tried, I did everything.
Speaker 1: You know what I wanted to ask you to. With
Speaker 1: so many conversations about marriage now and people being like
Speaker 1: off of it, like I don't know if I need
Speaker 1: to be married, tell us why it was important for
Speaker 1: you to be married and why marriage is important to you.
Speaker 3: Ah, man, that's a good question.
Speaker 4: When I first got married, I probably wouldn't have been
Speaker 4: able to tell you that answer.
Speaker 3: But marriage is important to me.
Speaker 4: Now because it's a real agreement, not just between me
Speaker 4: and my wife.
Speaker 3: Up between me and my God, my family, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. And I.
Speaker 4: Love this woman that way, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: A lot of people get married for the wrong reasons.
Speaker 4: But I love this woman more than I love anything,
Speaker 4: and should be able to show her that with some
Speaker 4: simple steps. Being married is a small step, just a
Speaker 4: part of the contract. Doing the work is the hard part,
Speaker 4: you know. But I'm proud to be her husband. And
Speaker 4: I lived my life like that.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I was sold when you said she had phone privileges,
Speaker 2: because let me just tell you something. The phone and
Speaker 2: these men with the face down phone right.
Speaker 5: And the and the protective speed, the protective and the
Speaker 5: dn D.
Speaker 1: I let me tell you something.
Speaker 5: Your phone ain't ringing?
Speaker 1: His phone is it announces the person's name out loud
Speaker 1: and somebody cross him.
Speaker 3: That's funny. Phone ringing twelve The phone.
Speaker 2: Been silent for twelve egg, no one calling you because
Speaker 2: every time I called you always on the phone.
Speaker 1: And then having any phone right here and next to them,
Speaker 1: the phone sleep with the phone. That's the best feeling.
Speaker 1: When you're in a space where you can have my code,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing nothing and I'm not like that's a
Speaker 1: different feeling in a relationship.
Speaker 4: You know, I think my wife is is never She's
Speaker 4: never been the type to even want to be all
Speaker 4: in my ship like that, you know, and still is,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But needed to feel comfortable,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, And that she took time.
Speaker 4: Fuck man, it was a long time where she felt
Speaker 4: the need to go.
Speaker 3: Through my phone.
Speaker 2: But I was gonna say, she probably don't even look
Speaker 2: at your phone now because.
Speaker 4: She phone mins my daughter's right.
Speaker 5: Nobody like, what's what's hiding?
Speaker 3: Yeah, she ain't not known Nickelodeon, nickelodeon.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: You know how many guys have gotten cauck because their
Speaker 1: kids was on their phone and then the baby mom
Speaker 1: grabbed the phone while it was unlocked.
Speaker 3: Yeah, is that a thing.
Speaker 1: That's a thing.
Speaker 3: I'm glad I don't have to worry about. That's yeah.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, opening the phone face. I d want
Speaker 5: to sleep.
Speaker 3: Like yo, that's cool.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, if you did get caught, how did you
Speaker 1: get caught?
Speaker 3: I talked about it.
Speaker 4: That was one thing that that it was never you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. Of course she's seen some text messages.
Speaker 3: She should up next message, you know for sure.
Speaker 4: One time it was an iPad like she was on
Speaker 4: my iPad and went through my messages on my iPad,
Speaker 4: which are always you know, when I thought I was
Speaker 4: being slick and deleted on my phone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can look there on my phone if you want.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I didn't know they stayed.
Speaker 5: They wasn't up on technology.
Speaker 1: Nothing is not a good liar.
Speaker 2: Yeah, those men aren't. I'm gonna say that most mens
Speaker 2: can't lie. They can't like people can tell you.
Speaker 1: Women are sneakier than men, for sure.
Speaker 3: I'm much better at being honest now. And you know
Speaker 3: she's she's not stupid, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: It didn't take long before things was a mess, and
Speaker 4: you know, we needed our time in our space and
Speaker 4: I worked through my ship, she worked through hers, and
Speaker 4: we met in the middle and started over.
Speaker 3: It was definitely a blessing for y'all.
Speaker 1: What song would you say on the album is about
Speaker 1: her brighter? The last song it feels that's like a
Speaker 1: gospel type of feel to it.
Speaker 4: Definitely, definitely, But yeah, it's an old tar relationship, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. Things are heading in the right direction,
Speaker 4: and that's what the album is. You notice we're starting
Speaker 4: a real bullshit place with something like ignorant and we
Speaker 4: end up in a beautiful place with ignorant journey.
Speaker 3: It gets real heavy right after that, too.
Speaker 1: Well, listen, I appreciate you so much for coming through.
Speaker 1: This is really like, I feel like we could talk
Speaker 1: to you for as money long as say yeah, I
Speaker 1: get to ask this ahead, Yeah, whatever you need.
Speaker 2: Your mom sings back back up for Michael Jackson, that's true.
Speaker 5: Did you ever meet Michael Jackson? Because I'm obsessed.
Speaker 4: Never Now, one of the coolest things about being in
Speaker 4: a musical family.
Speaker 3: I'll leave you out with this story.
Speaker 4: This was one of the coolest things that ever happened
Speaker 4: my mom's sixtieth birthday. Now, mind you, My mom grew
Speaker 4: up listening to you know, the great Stevie Wonder, Prince
Speaker 4: Michael Jackson, and idolized Stevie Wonder in particular. For her
Speaker 4: sixtieth birthday, my brother Daniel got Stevie Wonder to pull
Speaker 4: up to her birthday party, wow and play my Sherrier
Speaker 4: more Oh my God, sang Miss Jackie onay. I had
Speaker 4: my mom sing with him, oh Wow. And then my
Speaker 4: brother Davean got Tyrese to come on stage and sing
Speaker 4: to my mom nice and I brought Rudy the full
Speaker 4: the regular Stevie Wonder and Tyree's. So it was an
Speaker 4: interesting day. We all laugh about that. But yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: and that was a cool moment, you.
Speaker 3: Know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And you were in the studio with Stevie Wonder.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a couple of times.
Speaker 1: Are we ever going to hear any of those sessions?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: No, never. You need to get us some cool things,
Speaker 1: not the stuff. No, No, you should ask him.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: One of the cooler things that that I've done was was,
Speaker 4: you know, work with Jill Scott and that's when I
Speaker 4: met Stevie.
Speaker 3: And so the first time I met him wasn't even
Speaker 3: the studio session.
Speaker 4: He just came to see miss Jill and literally picked
Speaker 4: up a lap steal and played it and sang songs
Speaker 4: in the quil life, like six different songs on the
Speaker 4: lap steal.
Speaker 3: STEVEE wonders. I hate to be that guy to do
Speaker 3: the example, but that's how.
Speaker 6: Definitely like that, like skillfully too, just like man when
Speaker 6: he said, at my mother sixty it.
Speaker 1: Ste Wonder what I've met Stevie Wonder once. It was
Speaker 1: we were interviewing Hillary Clinton and it was her birthday
Speaker 1: and he came and saying happy birthday. I just want
Speaker 1: to say, that's a flex Now. I would rather have
Speaker 1: had my mom, you know what I'm saying, have him
Speaker 1: say mushry or more from my mind, that would have
Speaker 1: been even better. But you know, I take what I
Speaker 1: can get. Yeah, And so that was that was super
Speaker 1: exciting for me. Man. Listen, honestly, sir, I have always,
Speaker 1: like really been a fan of yours. So I'm excited
Speaker 1: to see you in this space. I know this album
Speaker 1: is an album that means a lot to you and
Speaker 1: is painful too, definitely. You know, in a way, sometimes
Speaker 1: the best music comes from pain. I know. We hate
Speaker 1: to say it. I saw somebody say about Mary day Bliges,
Speaker 1: like how she's happy in a relationship. They were like, what,
Speaker 1: the music ain't going to be hidden? But no, I
Speaker 1: hate when you do that. But like when you think
Speaker 1: about Tony Braxton Amy Winehouse, like some of the best
Speaker 1: music does unfortunately it's therapy. You let it from that space.
Speaker 3: Sure, and I'm happy to share the story.
Speaker 4: I know a lot of people like are ashamed of
Speaker 4: themselves and don't know how to talk about it. That's
Speaker 4: a big thing in the community, like talking about it,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But I'm definitely trying to
Speaker 4: help the next person. I'm not trying to like hide
Speaker 4: my story because my tragedy can be, you know, help
Speaker 4: for somebody else. I'm trying to turn my tragedy into
Speaker 4: a testimony for sure.
Speaker 1: And what's great is it feels like a happy ending.
Speaker 1: Not like that, but yeah, I know it's service but
Speaker 1: he likes hand jobs again. But it feels like a
Speaker 1: happy ending because you are still with your wife, you know,
Speaker 1: and you do have a body of work that you
Speaker 1: were able to put together even at times when you
Speaker 1: were at your you know, at your worst, and now
Speaker 1: you're going on tour and you know. So I'm looking
Speaker 1: forward to seeing the Are doubt me? Okay, Well, don't
Speaker 1: doubt me. I'll be there. Yeah, and Kim Kim is
Speaker 1: always my always roll dog in New York and GIZI
Speaker 1: will be there in Atlanta absolutely, Yeah, will be there.
Speaker 1: Absolutely listen. I'll drop in your DMS now. So, Kelly,
Speaker 1: I don't want now, I appreciate. I know she's got
Speaker 1: to be amazing though, because you know, just the fact
Speaker 1: that y'all have been together so long. I know she's
Speaker 1: secure and you know, her relationship with you, and she
Speaker 1: knows we don't need no harm.
Speaker 3: Will love Kelly. Y'all ain't gonna ever meet her, but
Speaker 3: y'all love her.
Speaker 1: Yes, we will be right up here on this count.
Speaker 3: I think so.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, sir. We appreciate you so much.
Speaker 1: And congratulations on everything, and I'm so glad that things
Speaker 1: right now are brighter.
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: Yes, congratulations, it's lift service