WEBVTT - Episode 446: HEAVY (Feat. SiR) 0:00:01.480 --> 0:00:04.560 What's up the slip service. I'm Angela, I'm g G Maguire, 0:00:04.640 --> 0:00:11.880 I'm Storial, I'm sorry. Welcome back, welcome back smoking the. 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:16.480 Building now for reinforcing Inglewood California stereotype. 0:00:16.680 --> 0:00:17.720 Man, come on, it's okay? 0:00:17.880 --> 0:00:19.160 Is that a serious think? 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:21.360 This is a California californ type. 0:00:21.720 --> 0:00:23.640 He was that y'all can smoke here legally? Yeah? 0:00:23.800 --> 0:00:23.960 Yeah. 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:26.560 Legal. Smoking was illegal here for the longest because I 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:29.400 felt like everybody everybody did anyway, I know what. 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:32.879 It became unspoken rules that you guys just knew. But 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:34.640 it was so secretive. That's what I loved about New York. 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:36.760 Like the last five years has changed so much. When 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:39.520 I first started coming out here, it was like speakeasier 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:42.720 everywhere and like secretive when you have weed. It was 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:44.279 like shut the fuck up, you know what I mean, 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:46.239 that kind of situation. But now it's like, yeah, come 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:47.640 on in, we got somebody we can. 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:50.040 Now you can go to the store in the street. 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:53.880 And as it's not as fun now that that is 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:56.840 legal to speaking it, you still can't. 0:00:56.840 --> 0:01:00.360 We'll figure out. Want to live on the edge. That's 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:02.800 a beautiful sweater. I want to say, did that pain 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:04.520 come with the sweater or did you add that? 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:05.360 You know, we added this? 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:08.119 Okay, I like that. That gives it a little oof, 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:12.080 you know what I'm saying. And sir, listen, it feels 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:16.039 like I haven't like seen you well since before the 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:19.600 pandemic personally in real life. So how are you feeling 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:22.720 because you have a new project Heavy that is coming out. 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:25.440 I feel good. We got two weeks two weeks to today. 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:28.520 I feel really good. We put out five singles. 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:32.080 You guys have gotten to see a lot of the 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:35.000 new met the new visuals you know, that have been 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:39.360 very revealing. And you know, I'm you know, I'm proud 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:40.840 of the body of work that we're putting out. 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:41.400 You know what I mean. 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:43.639 I'm proud of myself right now. I'm happy, I'm healthy, 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:48.440 you know what I mean. I'm focused, and you know, 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:49.559 for the most part. 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:52.280 I'm sober, right for the most part. Well, let's get 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:54.680 into that, because I said, how does it feel that 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:59.120 also channels Di'angelo? And you did channel di' Angelo somewhat 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:04.360 in this in this project? Right? Is that is that 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:04.920 fair to say? 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:07.400 Definitely? It's a couple of shout outs to him, some 0:02:07.560 --> 0:02:08.880 very blatant ones. You know what I mean. 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:11.079 But I've been a fan of his, and you know, 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:13.360 I've said it publicly. He's one of the many, you know, 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:17.080 people that I look up to in music. And I 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:19.680 think there are a lot of moments where I show 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:22.880 love to some familiar faces, some artists in this album, 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:25.040 and there's some easter eggs that people aren't even gonna 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:25.720 really notice. 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:27.320 I got to listen to it more because I only 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:30.000 had a chance. You know, they sent us a little advance. Yeah, 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:31.880 but we got it right before, so we don't get 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:36.360 to Yeah started in nothing even matters because that's a d' 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:39.320 angelo favorite with La Hill, and that's a song on 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:40.000 here also. 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:42.480 Man, it took me a long time to even like 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:46.440 know who produced that and and and know that it 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:48.960 was a D'Angel sample. I just was so attracted to 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:50.920 the music. I was like, this sample sounds so familiar. 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:52.960 I don't know what it is. Somebody had to tell me, 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:55.720 and once they did, we started to plan accordingly and 0:02:55.919 --> 0:02:57.640 make sure that every time we get an opportunity to 0:02:57.720 --> 0:02:58.760 we show him his respect. 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:01.399 And I used to work for Dangel. Really, Yeah, that's 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:03.040 a little fun fact. I didn't know that. 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:04.160 Yeah, I used to work at. 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:06.640 Virgin Records when they started his label, Chieva Sounds. It 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:08.920 was like the worst job of my life, No wonder 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:12.680 you never talk. But it wasn't because of DiAngelo. It 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:14.280 wasn't him. He was It's not like he was in 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:16.160 the office ever, but it was while he was on 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:19.360 that fitness journey. Mark Jenkins was his personal trainer, and 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:20.840 I will tell you he did not show up to 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:22.960 the studio, but he showed up to them gym sessions. 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:23.560 Okay. 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:25.720 He would call the office and be like, Angel, could 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:27.720 you call Mark and tell him I want to come 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:30.120 in this time, and then he would have the studio 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:33.160 electric lady was locked out. But he would never show 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:35.760 up to the studio sessions and he wouldn't let them 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:38.720 hear his music. And that's when I met Anthony Hamilton 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:41.119 because Anthony Hamilton was one of his backup singers. Wow 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:43.200 you know at the time. And that's when Angie Stone 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:45.600 was on the road with him and they ended up 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:48.320 having a child together. Yeah, but I did used to 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:49.080 work for him. 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:49.960 That's crazy. 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:51.520 And here's the fun fact. He was a big fan 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:55.280 of porn. So I remember when he was moving they 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:58.440 had me go to like help facilitate. He wasn't there, 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:00.480 but like you know, the moving and everything, and he 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:03.880 found all his DVDs. It was DVD's for sure, like 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:06.240 a ben Yeah, wow, fun fact. 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:08.960 I was at that video how does it feel video? 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:09.600 You were there? 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:11.440 I went to I went to that video shoot. 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:12.800 I was at Love to Know. 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:17.120 You know, we stayed for a second. I only actually 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:19.479 went with j Dilla. Okay, yeah, we stayed for like 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:19.919 a second. 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:23.039 He was in zone. We were all hanging out and yeah, 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:23.720 that's a low. 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:27.440 Key flex right there. Yeah, have you seen that's a flex? 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:29.520 How was it for you doing your video? 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:31.919 By the way, because I was at bud Necker, so 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:34.200 it wasn't I mean, And I'm proud of my body. 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:35.240 I put a lot of work in. 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:37.039 I did a lot of the working out by myself, 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:39.719 like with my brother and my nephew, and we trained 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:42.160 six days a week. I have a nutritionist name is 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:45.120 Kevin Henderson. He does a lot for me. But like 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:45.560 I did a. 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:45.800 Lot of it. 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:47.000 I don't have no personal trainer. 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:51.360 I don't have nobody like Mark Jackson Johnson you know 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:51.720 what I mean. 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:53.000 You know what I mean. I work out. 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:54.600 I work out with kid when I can but I 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:56.760 really can't afford him. I can only afford to keep 0:04:56.800 --> 0:04:59.640 him as my nutritions. So, you know, for the most part, 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:01.279 over the last year, I've been doing a lot of 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:01.799 my own stuff. 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:04.360 I do sprints, I do bark, I do extra work 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:06.120 at home, you know what I mean, just to get 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:06.400 like this. 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:08.560 I'm thirty seven, I'm not no kid, no more so 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:10.520 it's hard to stay like that. And a lot of 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:13.279 it is done in the kitchen, which I'm a foodie. 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:15.880 I like fried chicken, I like to cook. I like 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:19.320 you know, going and eating out, eating big. So lately 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:21.960 I've been eating like salmon, zucchini, protein. 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:23.520 You make it sound so boring. 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:24.800 It's so fucking. 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:31.560 Salmon too, But it is all yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:33.800 And it's the portions for me to fuck me up. 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:35.560 Like I'm eating three on the calorie meals. 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:36.640 You know what I'm saying. 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:39.200 You gotta do that four times to day. Two protein shakes, 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:40.520 no salt, no carbs. 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:46.000 How was it when you first started, no frost, nothing, 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:48.320 How hard was it when you first started? And did 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:49.880 you like backslide a few times? 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:50.440 Definitely? 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:53.240 It took it took like four months before I actually 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:55.359 saw my abs and another three months before I was 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:58.599 actually like shredded, and then I started to lose muscle 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:00.599 because I couldn't keep up with the die. You know, 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:03.520 I was skipping meals to keep the shred. So now 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:05.760 I'm in this state where I look good, but I 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:07.320 need to gain weight to. 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:09.080 Do it all over again. So I'm bulking. I've been 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:10.200 eating like crazy in New York. 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:11.120 I love It's good. 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:11.599 Yeah. 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:14.239 Yeah, I had carbone in the Barclays Center. 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:19.479 Oh that's because they have the Crown Room. 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:23.200 Lillow tiny room. Somebody was like, yeah, this carbone. I 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:25.680 was like, no, he sat down and we ate and. 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:32.159 Take some stuff to go to. Yeah, because you were 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:33.800 at the Brooklyn nescame. I had no idea you were 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:34.280 a Nuts fan. 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:40.400 Yeah, go Lakers, don't don't. 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:43.080 It was good to see Schroder, who used to play 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:45.960 on the Lakers. And it's my first time seeing Michil 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:47.760 Bridges play live. I'm a big fan of his, you 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:49.039 know what I mean. I'm a fan of the NBA. 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:50.960 You don't know that. You know, got to play an 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:51.760 All Star with kids. 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:54.440 I saw you, you know what I mean, telling up 0:06:54.440 --> 0:07:01.479 your muscles playing body. Oh my god, Now let's get 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:03.920 into some things though, because you know, you started over 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:06.839 on your Instagram page, right, and it's like a fresh 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:08.839 start for you. But you've been through a lot these 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:11.720 past few years that people may not have even known 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:16.680 what's happening. Yes, so you know, I know it's something 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:19.960 that and I feel like it's reflected in the music well, 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:22.880 because how could it? Yeah, the album is called heavy. Yeah, 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:25.840 So talk to us about just what happened, because I 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:29.000 know you ended up going to rehab and you know 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:31.520 you've been up here before. We had a great time 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:34.200 with you, and I've gone to watch your shows because 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:37.560 honestly love you as a performer, and I think that's 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:39.800 so important to you know, the music and being able 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:42.840 to perform it live. So what exactly was going on 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:43.280 with you? 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:44.440 Oh? Man? 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:48.240 It just started off as as you know, me, kind 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:51.960 of not really knowing how to navigate the whole being served. 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:55.320 I hate being sir sometimes, you know what I mean. 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:59.240 More So nowadays I'm more accepting of it, I would say, 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:01.920 because I have a different understanding of who it is 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:03.960 and what it does for me and my family. But 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:07.440 when it all started, I just was lost, lost in 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:11.320 the sauce. I like that phrase and it started affecting 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:14.320 my relationships. I wasn't talking to anybody about it, and 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:19.440 I started to self medicaid. Man, I talk about my 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:21.800 wife a lot when I talk about this, because she 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:24.080 suffered a lot. We have a three year old. She 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:25.880 suffered a lot, you know what I mean, having to 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:27.720 see me in these states and stuff like that. But 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:31.080 you know, at the point the point I decided to 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:34.520 like reach out for help, man, I thank God for 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:36.480 that moment, because there are a lot of people that 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:38.040 go through the same things and don't make it to 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:39.719 the other side of it because they never reach out. 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:41.400 They never get a chance to really talk about it. 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:44.679 So it took a lot for and she I really 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:46.679 didn't even really get a chance to talk about it. 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:48.120 I got caught. I ain't gonna lie. 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:52.560 But once I did get caught, and it was the 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:54.520 cat was out the bag and it was official that 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:56.760 I was fucked up. And you know, we started to 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:58.959 work on the steps, you know, and I did the work. 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:00.520 And what do you mean you got caught? 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:03.000 Oh? Man, I had a surgery. Right, let's just say 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:03.760 I had a surgery. 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:05.760 And before you go into anaesthesi you have to tell 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:07.360 the doctor what you've been on with kind of drugs 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:09.120 you've done over the last seventy two hours. And I 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:11.360 had to write that shit down, so I don't get 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:13.800 my DC power. I don't say it live, I won't 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:15.400 say it to y'all, but I had to write that 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:17.200 shit down, Memma. If he came in the room, my 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:17.960 wife's sitting. 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:20.800 Next to me, was like, so, you drank some alcohol, 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:23.160 smoked some weed, pomps and pills, did this and that, 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:25.800 and she was and she was like, excuse me, and 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:29.720 I said, yes, He's like okay, cool, thank you. I 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:30.520 walked out the room. 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:33.719 And of course after that, you know, it wasn't There 0:09:33.720 --> 0:09:35.520 was no keeping of the secret. I was already like 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:37.720 sick around the house and she thought it was something else, 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:40.040 but it was me just trying to recover from the 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:41.640 night of me doing drugs all night. 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:44.720 And this all like, you had your first child together, 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:47.080 so this is all happening with the baby, and she 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:49.360 probably was already dealing with a lot maybe when. 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:52.680 It came to that, but yeah, definitely not for sure. 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:54.600 And I mean just trying to navigate it while we're 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:56.560 trying to get me sober, because she was pregnant when 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:58.680 all this was happening. So as soon as we found 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:00.440 out during her pregnancy, I tried to go. 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:03.360 I went to rehab. Sucked horrible, you know what I mean. 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:05.480 For the first you know, for the first time was 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:08.120 like three weeks. It went well, you know what I mean. 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:11.520 I got out, got high immediately right second time lasted 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:15.040 six months. I did great, did all the steps, you know, 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:19.520 got got past the worst of it, relapsed this time. 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:21.320 I didn't go back to a normal rehab though. 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:23.400 Me and Top kind of came up with a plant, 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:26.600 like tuck me to the side and like take my phone, 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:27.960 take my car, take my keys. 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:31.480 Oh wow, you really really well know, let's sit here 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:32.679 for a year and a half. Let's sit here. I 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:34.320 got the time, we got the time. 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:36.000 And you got And you know what's great about that, 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:39.480 because some people would be concerned about the music, like 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:41.960 you got to put something out. It's hot right now. 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:43.680 Forever, nigga. I'm not. 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:47.160 I'm not talking nigga that makes music because it's a fad. 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:50.880 I do this because I'm connected to God. Yeah, it's different. 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:53.520 So Top's not gonna just put some bullshit out and 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:55.600 he's definitely not gonna let me put the gold out 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:58.120 while I'm not able to present it or represent myself. 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:00.600 How did Top Dog find out to him and tell 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:01.760 him or did he he knew? 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:04.199 Hef top new before Kelly? 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:06.920 Did top knew a long time ago? But topic you know, 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:10.760 you know, it probably wouldn't help me. Top was very 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:12.800 gentle about this, And I mean, we come from a 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:14.920 place where this is normal. Niggas don't know me like that. 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:17.120 They hear my music and I think I'm this thing. 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:19.880 I'm a nigga from the streets. Fuck you don't don't 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:21.960 put no box on me. You don't know where I 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:24.280 come from. You don't know that I both my parents 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:27.640 was crackheads. You don't know why being an addict is 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:30.360 like a thing in my family, right and it's normal 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:32.679 in my community and has been, you know what I mean. 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:34.640 Don't talk to me about this ship until you really 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:36.520 know who I am, really, you know what I mean. 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:38.800 I've seen so much, you know what I mean, before 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:41.080 I went through my own addiction, I've seen so much. 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:43.920 You know, you also come from a family of people 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:46.640 in the music business right too, and so it kind 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:48.680 of a lot of times in the music business that 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:51.959 just kind of does exist too. You know in general. 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:56.120 Yeah, and I think it amplifies it. It And to me, 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:57.520 we talked about this all the time. I was talking 0:11:57.520 --> 0:11:59.520 with Sway earlier about this, like, we don't, we don't, 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:01.560 We're not for this kind of attention, you know. 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:05.880 What I mean. And it's it's it's only until you. 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:08.840 Get it that you realize there's a certain way you 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:10.280 have to be and I have to act. And when 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:12.600 you see people succeeding in the music industry and actually 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:16.160 succeeding in life, they're following those rules. And it's simple, 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:17.720 you know what I mean. It's it should be built 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:21.439 into your strategy. Routine is a that's the most important thing. 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:24.720 I mean, well, hallelujah, God is the most important thing, right, 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:31.439 Routine is second. Let's stop there. Yeah yeah, but you know, 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:33.880 and no, let's switch it up. Let's let's let's add 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:36.120 routine in the mix. But let's just say family and like, 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:40.520 just like your home, life is your life. Being sir 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:41.360 is a gift. 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:44.160 Is special, you know what I mean. I'm not. 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:49.199 I'm not special. Being sir is special. That job is great. 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:51.800 I got hired to do it. I am nothing but 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:54.840 the man that is hired to be sir, I'm Daryl Fairs. 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:56.959 When I leave, I'm Sir Darryl at the house. But 0:12:57.040 --> 0:13:00.560 I'm supposed to be home, you know. And this album 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:04.920 just really goes through the motions of the last. 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:06.760 Four years for me. It talks about everything. 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:08.280 You know what I mean, And what was the first 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:09.960 song that you wrote that was on here? 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:17.320 Woo heavy yourself? I've been killing myself softly wakeing of remembering. 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:21.120 I'm losing sleep over dreams that were coming true. I 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:25.040 was tweaking when I wrote that song, Wow Wow, scared 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:25.560 out of my mind. 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:27.120 I didn't want to talk to nobody about it, wanted 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:29.280 to just just I wanted people to know. Though people 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:31.280 heard that song and still didn't get it. Though some 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:33.439 days I'm just fine with except that I won't change 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:35.320 and maybe a little more time before I get sick 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:37.480 of these games, might as well enjoy this ride. I'm 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:40.480 the passenger of my own ship, auto pilot and game changing, 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:42.840 hanging out the window this whole trip, like I. 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:46.920 Was talking like crazy. I was talking about me getting 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:48.160 doped up and not. 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:50.320 You know, because people also had no idea what you 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:53.439 were going through. And that's why once you know that, 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:56.520 it connects it you know a lot better because clearly, 0:13:56.559 --> 0:14:00.000 like before we got this, I knew you knew, yeah, 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:01.679 having this journey. But if I would have heard that, 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:04.040 I would have just thought you were being very creative, 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:05.320 creative right right. 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:06.439 And it's a beautiful song. 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:09.120 That's I think that's the real the what we wanted 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:12.800 to work in with the juxtaposition between you know, what 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:15.120 we're actually saying and what you're hearing. So it sounds 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:19.120 really fluffy and very nice, but I'm talking the work 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:20.280 just cut off of three. 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:22.840 Day venders still enjoying a ride. 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:24.680 And I was just thinking, like he just was drinking 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:27.440 a lot. Like when I heard that, I was like, okay, 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:30.120 but three days as a bender even drinking is a lot. 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:33.320 I've been talking my shit up and I respect to 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:35.120 and I say this is a weird thing to say, 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:38.120 but respect to alcoholics and people in recovery, any type 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:41.120 of DC. Don't think drinking is something that you should 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:43.320 pass over and look like and not to say, y'all 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:44.880 having fun right now is something that you got to 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:48.520 worry about. But like for an alcoholic, a real alcoholic 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:50.960 who those motherfuckers. 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:54.120 Are scared reap you read about that, Yeah. 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:57.680 Look you know, alcohol is not to be fucked with, 0:14:57.840 --> 0:14:59.120 you know what I mean. And it's just like any 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:01.800 other thing. Marijuana can be an addiction. It's not my addiction. 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:04.280 It's my pleasure. It's something I enjoy. I'm not like, 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:07.360 oh weed here, I gotta smoke all the time. I 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:09.240 just like it, you know what I mean. And it's 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:11.960 the thing that I do that doesn't harm my path, 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:12.560 my life. 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:14.440 It doesn't affect anything. 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:17.520 It makes me a better version of myself in instances 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:18.200 where I needed to. 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:20.880 It doesn't do what you know it does to weed heads. 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:21.880 How often do you smoke? 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:23.800 Probably like four. 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:25.240 Or five days a week, you know what I mean. 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:28.040 Not every day and definitely not like I used to. 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:30.960 I used to try to smoke to go to sleep. 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:33.360 It didn't work. I used to Yeah, no, no, no. 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:35.240 I know people who wake up and before they brush it. 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:38.560 Yeah yeah yeah, And I'm like, you got it. 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:40.320 They just smoke all. 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:44.440 And it's an expensive habit yeah oh yeah, because you 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:45.480 can't smoke no trash. 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:48.160 Yeah, now, CALLI is a little cheaper, That's what I 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:50.360 was gonna say. 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.200 Super expensive. So you know, I definitely keep weed on 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:53.760 me for sure. 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:59.080 Can we talk about the song only human, Yeah, because 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:02.720 you know, I feel like only human is what guys 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:06.520 say when they mess up to you, like to women, like, look, 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:09.760 I'm a human, I'm a work in progress. You know 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:12.480 I'm talking about to me, I. 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:14.160 Thought it was a vivid way to paint, you know, 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:15.560 my infidelities, that's all. 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:18.080 And really that's an eight year old song. Was crazy 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:20.200 about that. As I wrote there, before I did anything 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:22.880 or made any mistakes or anything like that. It was 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:24.720 just I was like, this would be a cool way 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:26.360 to say I cheated. 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:31.120 Wow, and regret it. I really regret that. 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:36.280 I regret writing it in certain moments because it's it's 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:37.240 just it was me. 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:39.320 It was me. It's not me anymore. 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:42.600 I definitely you know, I have a gracious wife. I'm 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:43.520 still with my wife. 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:48.040 You know that's amazing. Yeah, you hear here, let me 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:50.680 tell you. And I also want to say that, like, 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:53.760 even before this album, you did talk a lot about 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:57.520 the struggles of being on the road and being faithful. 0:16:57.520 --> 0:16:59.440 And you know, I fought the good fight. I ain't 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:01.840 gonna lie to you. I tried my damn this. But 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:06.679 when we talk about like, man, where I've been to, 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:09.680 what I've seen and the opportunities I've had in my life. 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:15.600 It's like nothing you'll ever get like and and man, 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:18.800 people like that attention, people like that energy, and it's 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:22.360 it's hard to stay focused, it really is. You have 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:26.639 to you have to be ground dead. And I was not, 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:31.480 you know, I was not and learned some hard lessons. 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:34.720 Lessons got kicked out of my house, you know what 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:36.480 I mean. I don't got no pushover. It wasn't like 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:43.639 I was like this third and she's like baby, it 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:46.680 was it was fisticuffs, you know, it wasn't it was. 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:47.679 It was not games. 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:50.920 And you know, I've been showing a lot of grace 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:52.560 and that's what I That's what I want to. 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:55.320 Show anybody else that's going through anything like that, you 0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:55.760 know what I mean. 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:57.720 I just want to show them love and grace because 0:17:57.800 --> 0:18:00.199 hopefully they you know, they have somebody like I do 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:01.720 on their side, you know what I mean. 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:03.280 I'm blessed and I know it. 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:05.000 You felt like it was going to be over, Like 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:05.880 was she ever like. 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:09.480 We were done? Yeah? We were done. We were done. 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:11.960 How did you get back? Because that's one thing that 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:14.560 guys always trying to figure out time. 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:17.720 I've known this one since I was fifteen, you know 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:19.760 what I mean. So it's different. 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:21.560 Then, and there was never a time where we weren't 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:25.640 gonna be co parents, so you know, our emotions were 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:28.800 kind of like set to the side really quickly, hard 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:32.280 to kind of hide and spilt right on over into 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:33.600 the bedroom and we. 0:18:33.600 --> 0:18:37.880 Just that can patch things up way right back. 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:42.680 No, no, no, just a lot of it was conversation, 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:47.120 like and painful conversation, but definitely that room. 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:50.000 You know what that is so crazy because guys would 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:53.360 tell you that is like the most passionate sec use, 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:58.360 but they go up. It's very toxic, you know. That's 0:18:58.400 --> 0:19:01.840 what y'all do, whatever you gotta do. It's all about pleasing, 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:09.520 makes good and going and saying all the right things. 0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:16.560 Ext I definitely like I've broken down so many times 0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:19.280 I can't count, and my wife has seen the ugliest 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:21.480 side of me, you know, and I think I think 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:23.720 that kind of vulnerability is. 0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:27.200 It's it's hard to. 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:31.200 It's hard to it's hard to accept, but it's hard 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:34.000 not to accept, like when somebody's that truthful. 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:35.719 You know what I mean. I was, I was blatant, 0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:38.720 I was ugly and was sick all at the same time. 0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:41.560 I was an anecdote. All during all this, you know what. 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:43.760 I mean, And that was the biggest part of my addiction. 0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:46.919 I'm a god fearing, god feeled man. So to have 0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:49.440 stepped out of my house because I thought I had 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:52.119 something that I didn't or it was was somebody that 0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:55.359 I wasn't was not sitting well in my spirit, and 0:19:55.400 --> 0:19:59.359 the only way that I was like getting through getting 0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:01.640 by was self medicating. 0:20:02.320 --> 0:20:05.919 Was this during the pandemic too? Yeah, okay, the pandemic. 0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:08.920 So I was stuck at the crib. 0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:11.879 I was literally lived downtown, was going down to my 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:16.960 parking lot car and just doing my thing for hours 0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:18.880 on end, for days on end. She was knocked out 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:21.320 in the bed, didn't know I was downstairs in the 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:25.480 living room while she was sleep doing my thing, going crazy. 0:20:27.240 --> 0:20:30.000 How much of a role did that the pandemic play 0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:31.400 in this too, because. 0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:33.800 No idea knew that it fucked everybody up, but didn't 0:20:33.800 --> 0:20:36.040 know that. It was like weighing so heavy on what 0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:40.119 was going on with my own personal challenge, But looking back, 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:44.600 it was, oh man, COVID was hard. 0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:47.280 Cold. That COVID period was hard. 0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:49.040 Because there's also a time where you got to be 0:20:49.040 --> 0:20:51.960 out making money, on the road things are hot, yep. 0:20:52.160 --> 0:20:56.480 And then now everything hadn't been used to being home. 0:20:56.359 --> 0:20:58.359 Right, and I was downtown in La too. 0:20:58.480 --> 0:21:01.000 But the thing about me, though, I was slick as fuck, 0:21:01.119 --> 0:21:03.560 so I wasn't like I never felt that kind of pressure. 0:21:03.720 --> 0:21:06.680 I got what I needed, I got an nowhere to go. No, no, no, 0:21:06.840 --> 0:21:07.520 I had money. 0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:09.600 That's the thing, y'all gotta remember, like I was, sir. 0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:12.480 So it wasn't getting getting drugs or getting. 0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:15.520 What I needed was easy for show outn't pay niggas 0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:18.080 rent for show out and bought a Porsche Panama with 0:21:18.240 --> 0:21:19.080 a dope for show. 0:21:19.080 --> 0:21:21.639 I didn't lost it all. Y'all don't understand. 0:21:22.280 --> 0:21:25.280 I was an added that I wasn't no like, no, no, 0:21:25.280 --> 0:21:26.720 it wasn't no little thing it was. 0:21:27.080 --> 0:21:29.600 And the thing, like you said, you are sir, So 0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:33.359 was it also embarrassing that like these people are serving. 0:21:33.000 --> 0:21:34.720 You smoke smoke? 0:21:37.160 --> 0:21:41.560 Yeah, oh yeah, it wasn't embarrassing. Oh man, I didn't care. 0:21:41.880 --> 0:21:44.760 I didn't because, like you know, I'm giving, sir. 0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:48.200 But they treated me like they loved me. Why would 0:21:48.200 --> 0:21:48.520 they not. 0:21:50.520 --> 0:21:53.520 I'm keeping the block hot, why would they not? Yeah, 0:21:54.480 --> 0:21:56.920 I got the money they want, Why would they need, not. 0:21:57.000 --> 0:21:57.960 What they need. 0:21:58.119 --> 0:21:59.920 I feel like some people think that's a rock star 0:22:00.119 --> 0:22:03.480 thing too. Like I feel like in the music business 0:22:03.880 --> 0:22:06.000 you do stuff like that and it's not as frowned 0:22:06.080 --> 0:22:08.280 upon because it's like rock star vibes like. 0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:12.280 And if that is true, I'll be the first to 0:22:13.080 --> 0:22:16.439 stand up against it because that I mean, I definitely 0:22:16.440 --> 0:22:18.439 didn't have didn't get that feeling from the people around me. 0:22:18.480 --> 0:22:20.359 People around me want to be to be healthy, you 0:22:20.400 --> 0:22:20.880 know what I mean. 0:22:21.400 --> 0:22:24.040 I definitely wasn't encouraged or pushed in the direction I 0:22:24.080 --> 0:22:24.440 was pushed. 0:22:24.440 --> 0:22:25.880 This was a choice I made on my own. 0:22:25.880 --> 0:22:27.919 Well no, but sometimes people just kind of accept it 0:22:27.960 --> 0:22:30.720 more when you know it's because they're like, yeah, you know, 0:22:30.960 --> 0:22:34.240 sir right again, but you know, he is a artist. 0:22:34.440 --> 0:22:37.199 I think that's more. I think that's more people that 0:22:37.240 --> 0:22:39.760 see it don't want to talk about it. That isn't 0:22:39.800 --> 0:22:42.680 anyone's fault. That is that's that's more of the addicts fault. 0:22:43.080 --> 0:22:45.640 Drugs are never the fault of somebody that's watching it happen, 0:22:45.720 --> 0:22:48.440 especially somebody that doesn't understand. I appreciate you for saying that, 0:22:48.480 --> 0:22:51.600 because this point is very poignant. You don't blame somebody 0:22:51.640 --> 0:22:55.520 for non understanding. You don't if somebody's watching somebody get 0:22:55.600 --> 0:22:56.480 high and they're. 0:22:56.200 --> 0:22:57.880 Like, what the fuck is going on? 0:22:58.000 --> 0:22:59.680 They don't know what drug they're using, they don't see 0:22:59.720 --> 0:23:02.119 them in jesting it. They don't they don't actually know 0:23:02.160 --> 0:23:04.240 what's going on, but they feel it in their spirit. 0:23:05.119 --> 0:23:07.200 You can't be mad at that person. You got to 0:23:07.200 --> 0:23:08.520 be mad at that. You gotta be mad at the 0:23:08.480 --> 0:23:10.359 motherfucker's trying to hide it and trying to act normal 0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:13.800 and trying to be mad at that. 0:23:13.800 --> 0:23:15.280 But don't be mad at the person that's trying to 0:23:15.280 --> 0:23:16.560 figure out what the fuck's going on. 0:23:16.960 --> 0:23:19.119 And that brings us to this song Trying my heart is. 0:23:20.600 --> 0:23:21.600 That song makes me cry. 0:23:21.760 --> 0:23:25.720 Fucking was gonna say, I can see it. 0:23:25.760 --> 0:23:27.919 Is okay, but like performing it live. I've tried to 0:23:27.920 --> 0:23:31.960 rehearse it in live and mark two seconds inn and 0:23:32.280 --> 0:23:35.200 definitely wrote that after the second relapse I was talking 0:23:35.240 --> 0:23:36.919 about so the first time around. 0:23:37.040 --> 0:23:38.000 Definitely lost my shit. 0:23:38.520 --> 0:23:41.840 Three days after I got out of the door second time, 0:23:42.000 --> 0:23:44.480 after a long period of not messing up, I messed 0:23:44.560 --> 0:23:46.399 up and I wrote that song. I'm trying my hardest 0:23:46.480 --> 0:23:48.280 plent to sy give it time, hope that it grows 0:23:48.400 --> 0:23:50.159 energy is hard to find. I know that you know 0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:52.520 promises I want to keep in keeping me down, but 0:23:52.600 --> 0:23:54.760 I know how I would feel if I can't keep 0:23:54.760 --> 0:23:57.359 you around. So I meditate, got my mind focused on you. 0:23:57.920 --> 0:23:59.040 Change your pace. It ain't a race. 0:23:59.080 --> 0:24:01.080 I'm chasing the truth, sick of all the pain that 0:24:01.080 --> 0:24:03.320 I've been putting you through. I keep getting it wrong, 0:24:03.440 --> 0:24:05.920 but I know that I'm trying my hardest. I wish 0:24:06.000 --> 0:24:08.239 more people really like read lyrics and paid attention. Whate 0:24:08.280 --> 0:24:10.200 motherfuckers were saying, if they pay attention to what I'm 0:24:10.200 --> 0:24:12.640 actually saying on this, they'll, they'll, they'll. 0:24:12.760 --> 0:24:15.240 That sounds to me really touched me too, though, just 0:24:16.200 --> 0:24:18.440 actually knowing what you went through and knowing that it's 0:24:18.480 --> 0:24:21.639 probably the especially towards it's also towards the end of 0:24:21.680 --> 0:24:24.920 the album, and so knowing that, like you've done the 0:24:25.040 --> 0:24:28.119 no Evil six whole Days, six whole Days, which is 0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:30.359 just you on that song, and you're talking about just 0:24:30.480 --> 0:24:33.120 looking at the sun, and so basically you've been up. 0:24:33.040 --> 0:24:37.040 And so that song represents a bad time. 0:24:37.119 --> 0:24:38.720 I was just telling somebody that was I. 0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:41.439 Was going through it when I wrote that song, just 0:24:41.480 --> 0:24:46.600 after the last Relapse. It was just a day that 0:24:46.800 --> 0:24:48.479 had been way too long, and I was in my 0:24:48.480 --> 0:24:51.400 mother's backyard just looking up at the sky and that 0:24:51.400 --> 0:24:53.680 that idea came and I sang it to my mom 0:24:53.680 --> 0:24:55.439 as a joke and she laughed, and then I just 0:24:55.440 --> 0:24:57.720 went inside and actually like kind of jotted it down. 0:24:57.880 --> 0:25:00.280 Yeah, and it worked out. It turned out. That's uncle 0:25:00.280 --> 0:25:05.399 playing bass, that's my mom singing about Wow. Me and 0:25:05.480 --> 0:25:06.520 cale Banks shout out to. 0:25:06.480 --> 0:25:11.879 Cow and definitely my uncle Andrew is like he's a 0:25:11.880 --> 0:25:14.040 god of base. He's a god of gospel based people 0:25:14.119 --> 0:25:18.040 know him. We our careers started from the Q base 0:25:18.080 --> 0:25:22.760 that he gave us and the Excel board that he 0:25:22.800 --> 0:25:25.359 gave us back in the day. He gave us everything 0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:27.800 that we've ever worked on, all the equipment and always 0:25:27.840 --> 0:25:30.000 put you know, our careers first, you know what I mean. 0:25:30.040 --> 0:25:30.720 Love him to death. 0:25:30.840 --> 0:25:32.960 So anytime I get an opportunity to work with him, 0:25:33.119 --> 0:25:35.199 I do. And he's like excited to work with me, 0:25:35.240 --> 0:25:40.119 which is crazy, Like hello, what he's like sixty hours, 0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:42.720 Like sixty one I believe. But you know, I still 0:25:42.760 --> 0:25:46.160 see him as the young who like driving a Porsche 0:25:46.280 --> 0:25:50.000 Uncle Andrew tour in the world musician, you know what 0:25:50.000 --> 0:25:53.520 I mean, And the like that song in particular is 0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:55.359 a blessing to have on the roster because I got 0:25:55.400 --> 0:25:56.639 so many family members attached to it. 0:25:57.160 --> 0:25:58.360 On that too, my brother Dave. 0:25:58.359 --> 0:26:00.800 So y'all got like it is. I really like that. 0:26:04.040 --> 0:26:06.280 You know, how hard is it too, even when you're 0:26:06.320 --> 0:26:09.200 listening to this album knowing what you are going through, 0:26:09.920 --> 0:26:12.520 you know on so many of these songs, like and 0:26:12.760 --> 0:26:15.520 I know you're planning a tour so you'll be performing this. 0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:18.560 I mean, this is this is the most emotional I'll 0:26:18.560 --> 0:26:19.840 ever be, for sure. 0:26:20.000 --> 0:26:23.439 It's I mean, it's difficult listening back. But I'm not 0:26:23.520 --> 0:26:26.440 in the place anymore. I don't I don't go there anymore. 0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:29.840 I'm I'm stuck in my routine. I'm focused on the 0:26:29.880 --> 0:26:32.040 right things, and I know what I have to do. 0:26:32.119 --> 0:26:32.919 I have to sing it. 0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:37.399 I have to sing it. 0:26:36.040 --> 0:26:37.359 For your wife to hear some of this. 0:26:37.640 --> 0:26:40.159 She don't listen to it. Wow, we don't listen to it. 0:26:40.160 --> 0:26:41.520 And I don't play in my house. I don't force 0:26:41.520 --> 0:26:42.760 it on you know what I mean. I ain't gonna 0:26:42.760 --> 0:26:44.040 do that. It's no point. 0:26:44.119 --> 0:26:44.640 I gotta listen. 0:26:44.720 --> 0:26:47.160 I have to listen to What are the rules now? 0:26:47.240 --> 0:26:50.000 With everything that you guys have been through things change 0:26:50.000 --> 0:26:52.879 in the household, right, and there are certain things that 0:26:52.920 --> 0:26:55.200 you have to, like really continue to prove yourself. 0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:57.320 One of the biggest things that we do is we 0:26:57.440 --> 0:27:01.640 keep a very very open been in the line of communication, like. 0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:04.439 Calls whenever calls all the time. We have fun with it. 0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:06.360 I actually enjoy it, like more than she does. 0:27:06.400 --> 0:27:10.359 I call her all the time, like what I love 0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:15.040 to I'm in the background, and we just talked constantly. 0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:17.840 And of course, you know, I got open phone privileges, 0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:19.600 which you know, was never really a big thing in 0:27:19.600 --> 0:27:22.040 our relationship. She's never wanted to check my phone, but 0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:24.080 nowadays she can grab my phone ever she. 0:27:24.080 --> 0:27:26.480 Wants to look through it. Of course, everything's cool, you. 0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:30.480 Know, and just a lot of prayer and a lot 0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:34.080 of like rough conversations, you know, we don't have them 0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:39.720 too much anymore, but a lot of rough me saying 0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:41.520 stuff that I should have said a long time ago, 0:27:41.720 --> 0:27:44.639 stuff she don't want to hear, and me, you know, 0:27:44.960 --> 0:27:46.600 trying to talk. 0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:49.240 Through things that she needs from me and figure things out. 0:27:49.280 --> 0:27:52.240 A lot of tough conversations. 0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:54.639 Does she want to know everything you did? Because I 0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:58.320 know sometimes okay, some people want to know, like Kim 0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:01.800 help you went through it went through? Did you want 0:28:01.800 --> 0:28:02.320 to know it all? 0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:06.000 When I was going through it, I was looking for answers, right, 0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:10.880 like so like the the I think for me, the 0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:12.960 why of it all was really the answer. 0:28:13.800 --> 0:28:16.359 That's a huge thing because the why attached to the 0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:17.560 why is like his. 0:28:17.520 --> 0:28:18.680 Emotions, right, you know what I mean? 0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:21.840 Like what am I doing wrong? It comes first, That's 0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:24.120 what she think, Kelly. I'm just speaking from my wife. 0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:26.920 I know there's probably some similarities, but like what she thought? 0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:28.600 What am I doing wrong? What did I do wrong? 0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:31.399 You know what I mean? Or like where's his head been? 0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:33.960 Like how did he get to the point where do 0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:35.800 we miss where he got to the point where he 0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:38.040 thought he needed this as his outlet? 0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:38.840 You know what I mean? 0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:42.920 And it's not exactly but the kind And this is 0:28:42.960 --> 0:28:45.640 one of those tricky conversations where it's it's it's so 0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:47.959 much deeper than that and bigger than that, but it's 0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:50.560 it's a whole different mindset, and especially me being served, 0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:52.600 my mindset was not that It wasn't that I was 0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:54.400 falling in love at all. 0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:56.520 In any instance. My heart was never the thing that 0:28:56.800 --> 0:28:57.800 was in it. 0:28:57.800 --> 0:29:03.080 It was in addiction and be an emotional like almost released, 0:29:03.120 --> 0:29:04.280 like there was no emotion. 0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:05.200 Attached to disconnect. 0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:06.720 It was a disconnect. 0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:08.560 It was the exact opposite, you know what I mean, 0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:11.320 And I don't you know, say that's for everybody, you know, 0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:12.560 that was your situation. 0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:15.120 That was my situation where I was, I was disconnecting. 0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:17.320 And what did her fan? Did her family know what 0:29:17.360 --> 0:29:19.040 was going on? And where they like, I'm sure they 0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:23.280 know now, Okay now, because sometimes people share too much 0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:24.960 and then it kind of can ruin. 0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:27.239 This ain't nobody business with mine? No, at the end 0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:29.160 of the day, Like that's what me and Kelly do know. 0:29:29.240 --> 0:29:31.000 And that's this is a mistake that a lot of 0:29:31.040 --> 0:29:33.240 people make, is they bring people into these situations. 0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:35.040 Nobody has any word or say, in. 0:29:35.000 --> 0:29:38.280 My eye, we got fists for you, I got fisticuffs 0:29:38.280 --> 0:29:38.479 for you. 0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:40.040 Nobody has any word in our situation. 0:29:40.600 --> 0:29:43.280 Did y'all do like any type of therapy, couple's therapy 0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:43.960 or nothing? 0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:47.880 We did an individual therapy, okay, individuals for sure, Yeah, 0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:48.840 a couple therapy. 0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:50.320 We've talked about it, prayed about it. 0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:52.440 How was therapy for you? 0:29:52.800 --> 0:29:53.080 Great? 0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:58.080 Wonderful, very eye opening, very self revealing, Like how mag oh, 0:29:58.120 --> 0:30:00.840 my gosh. I learned a lot about like forgiveness in 0:30:00.880 --> 0:30:04.800 my therapy, you know, self forgiveness huge radics. We don't 0:30:04.840 --> 0:30:06.360 know how you know what I mean. That's one of 0:30:06.400 --> 0:30:08.480 our first problems is not being able to talk about 0:30:08.520 --> 0:30:10.200 it and not be able to move past it, able 0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:12.760 to forgive ourselves for the things we've done, because a 0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:14.800 lot of it's like things we don't talk about, like 0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:18.560 people never see type shit. But forgiveness. My therapist was 0:30:18.600 --> 0:30:23.240 great at giving me that gift, you know, and we talked. 0:30:23.320 --> 0:30:25.760 We talked a lot about routine, you know, like me 0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:27.680 figuring out what my routine was. She's the one that 0:30:27.760 --> 0:30:29.600 got me like back focused on like the gym and 0:30:29.600 --> 0:30:32.280 stuff like that, and switched that dopamine on for me, 0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:33.920 you know what I mean, And like, oh. 0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:34.480 She's great. 0:30:34.560 --> 0:30:35.960 You think you're addicted to the gym. 0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:37.520 Now I know. I'm addicted to them. 0:30:38.400 --> 0:30:41.440 It's not a bad addiction. But not all addictions are bad, No. 0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:43.680 No, for sure. For sure. I used to be addicted 0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:45.240 to gummy bears, you know what I mean. I much 0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:46.320 rather be addicted to sprints. 0:30:46.640 --> 0:30:48.440 Man. I used to always eat gummy beers from the 0:30:48.440 --> 0:30:51.640 stomach first. Is that crazy? The stomach. When I was little, 0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:55.440 I used to eat the stomach and why vended? And 0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:57.600 then I would do that and act like they were 0:30:57.600 --> 0:30:58.000 in pain. 0:30:58.040 --> 0:30:58.680 Would you like to talk? 0:30:58.760 --> 0:31:02.480 You talk to them before you did, and then they 0:31:02.480 --> 0:31:06.680 would look very like distorted, you know, it would. 0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:08.400 Look like screaming and the hurt. 0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:11.560 I really killed this gummy beer stomach first. 0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:16.959 I think mutilated stomach off of gummy bears. 0:31:17.040 --> 0:31:18.720 I was the next time I eat a gummy beer, 0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:19.160 I want. 0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:19.320 To do that. 0:31:19.520 --> 0:31:24.320 I want to talk to like, what's your last word? 0:31:23.920 --> 0:31:25.240 I think you're gonna live? 0:31:25.320 --> 0:31:27.400 Now that's weird. 0:31:30.080 --> 0:31:33.760 Okay, so gummy bears beers, and now you're to zucchini. 0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:39.840 Actually I love I love zucchini too. But the way 0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:43.320 he said like salmon zucchati, you. 0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:44.840 Know, I think I was switching at all. Right, So 0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:47.800 I eat according to like my blood type and your 0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:49.080 blood low cor uh? 0:31:49.720 --> 0:31:53.720 Oh unusual? Wasn't that like the most unusual? 0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:54.120 Positive? 0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:55.040 Negative? 0:31:55.440 --> 0:31:58.840 Your oh? Positives? Pretty common? 0:31:59.160 --> 0:32:01.040 Pretty comb is the most. 0:32:01.080 --> 0:32:02.400 Baby My daughter has a. 0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:04.640 Really Oh do they ask her to get blood all 0:32:04.680 --> 0:32:08.960 the time? Not yet they will as an adult every month. 0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:12.200 You know, Okay, you're a positive. 0:32:12.280 --> 0:32:12.520 Yeah? 0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:15.120 Oh wow, you know our diets are so different, like 0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:19.680 what our bodies digest and how it digests are very similar. 0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:22.080 So I can't. I've told her I can't do red meat. 0:32:22.120 --> 0:32:25.400 I can, but it's not yeah you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:28.520 but I can do beef. You can do lamb. 0:32:28.960 --> 0:32:32.000 Lamb is great for us. You know, salmon's great for us. 0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:35.720 Any kind of white fish is great for us. Chicken, no, 0:32:35.800 --> 0:32:39.280 fried chicken. Chicken is neutral, which is crazy. 0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:40.480 Love. 0:32:40.640 --> 0:32:47.040 I love chicken. Dark meat not so much, you know, 0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:51.080 I mean too much. Fact. Yeah, but avocados bad for us. 0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:56.200 I've never heard avocado a lot of I love ala. 0:32:56.320 --> 0:32:59.120 I just had avocado for the first time. I don't 0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:01.120 but it doesn't. Yeah, I don't like it. 0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:03.120 You don't. You guys are weird. 0:33:03.560 --> 0:33:06.960 Yeah, I don't. I'm like a superrigy eater. I just 0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:08.840 had it for the first I don't like the consistency, 0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:10.000 I don't like the texture. 0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:11.680 My daughter, the first I would try to give it 0:33:11.720 --> 0:33:13.959 to her, she made this face that I will never forget. 0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:16.040 It was like it was like the face like was like, 0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:17.560 why hast out forsaken? 0:33:20.760 --> 0:33:22.560 How did life change after? I mean, I know you 0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:24.680 were going through a lot, like while your wife was pregnant, 0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:27.560 but you have a daughter. You know what were some 0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:30.360 great moments from having a little girl? 0:33:30.840 --> 0:33:34.360 Oh Man, one of the best was like her first 0:33:34.400 --> 0:33:34.880 time walking. 0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:37.040 She started walking when she was like a year and 0:33:37.080 --> 0:33:37.520 like a month. 0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:40.560 Little girls walking earlier than boy. 0:33:40.600 --> 0:33:42.480 But I mean, I just I just know that from 0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:44.240 the time she started walking, it was almost like she 0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:45.640 started running the next day. 0:33:45.800 --> 0:33:47.320 She's the fastest person in our house. 0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:51.680 And like we talk about lely because she she's a toddler, 0:33:51.840 --> 0:33:53.840 full on tiller now but likes to like do this 0:33:53.880 --> 0:33:56.920 thing where you say come here, and she says and. 0:33:56.960 --> 0:34:00.480 Goes the opposite direction. One of the favorite games to play. 0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:03.719 But she's like a football Like she's like a wide receiver. 0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:07.960 How she dodges and jukes. You reach for her shoulder drops, 0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:11.560 she moves back. She's just the jukester. She's like she's 0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:14.759 the swiftest like ninja that I've ever met in my life. 0:34:14.760 --> 0:34:18.160 And you know, just our conversations are sweet. That the 0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:20.799 most innocent things I've ever had my life. 0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:24.080 And she's she's three now, so that's she's in school. 0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:28.560 That's a good age. And everything you say and you 0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:32.759 could tell that they really understand you. Know everything, body train, and. 0:34:32.800 --> 0:34:35.640 Yeah, we're we're definitely at the stage where we're like 0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:43.480 considering another baby and like, you know time, I definitely 0:34:43.680 --> 0:34:45.720 what I would take another girl in a heartbeat. 0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:49.640 That's one of those choices that I would never ever 0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:52.880 want to make or make a face about. I'd be 0:34:53.160 --> 0:34:54.279 happy with anything. Man. 0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:56.000 You know, me and my wife been together a long time. 0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:58.000 We was trying to have kids in our twenties. You know, 0:34:58.040 --> 0:34:59.880 we were blessed with a kid in our in our 0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:02.040 you know what I mean. So to have another one, 0:35:02.600 --> 0:35:05.040 what a miracle. You know, what a miracle. 0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:08.880 Y'all have been through so many You've been through so much. Honestly, 0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:11.719 I'm so happy that you're in this space that you're 0:35:11.760 --> 0:35:13.520 in right now. How long has it been since you've 0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:14.759 been pretty much. 0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:19.280 Sober and going on? Four months or three months? 0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:19.560 Okay? 0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:20.880 Yeah? 0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:23.400 Man, all this was like happen it in twenty twenty 0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:25.840 It's twenty four, right, Yeah. 0:35:25.640 --> 0:35:30.839 So the worst of it was over in twenty twenty two. 0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:33.279 When did you get comfortable talking about it? 0:35:34.640 --> 0:35:40.000 What's today? Over the last like six months, you know 0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:41.839 what I mean, I've. 0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:46.000 I've had a few chances to talk about it in private, 0:35:46.200 --> 0:35:48.200 that kind of helped me get ready to talk about 0:35:48.239 --> 0:35:50.239 it in public, talk about it with some people that 0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:54.080 I wanted to talk about it with, nephews, uncles, aunts, 0:35:54.239 --> 0:35:56.840 you know, people that knew but didn't know, had heard 0:35:56.960 --> 0:35:59.520 but hadn't seen, or wasn't sure, wasn't sure. 0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:03.000 Is there anything that is there anything that you think 0:36:03.120 --> 0:36:05.400 that anybody could have said to you that would have mattered, 0:36:05.680 --> 0:36:07.520 because I know a lot of times there's a lot 0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:09.839 of people that are you know, dealing with somebody close 0:36:09.840 --> 0:36:12.719 to them and are trying to figure out how to navigate. 0:36:12.760 --> 0:36:17.120 But sometimes like I don't know if there's nothing you 0:36:17.160 --> 0:36:19.000 can say or is there anything that you feel like 0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:19.920 could have helped. 0:36:20.400 --> 0:36:22.680 I mean, people tried, but I think. 0:36:25.040 --> 0:36:28.640 One of the main things that I've learned is, you know, 0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:32.120 the first thing is you have to want to help yourself. 0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:32.839 You know what I mean? 0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:35.960 You can't yeah, and someone's not ready, they can't receive that. 0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:38.640 You have the strongest support system around you. But if 0:36:38.680 --> 0:36:41.400 you're not ready to make the steps, nothing's gonna change. 0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:43.520 Did it make you duck people if they were trying 0:36:43.520 --> 0:36:43.920 to talk to you. 0:36:44.239 --> 0:36:46.680 Yeah, I remember one time in particular, being mood. Laugh 0:36:46.760 --> 0:36:50.879 at this now but Musa who being Musa fucking which 0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:53.359 we had to meet in at Apple and I had 0:36:53.360 --> 0:36:56.719 a brand new car. I just bought a car, brand 0:36:56.760 --> 0:37:02.120 new Tesla and a man, I just was not in 0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:04.080 any position to show up to this meeting. 0:37:04.560 --> 0:37:07.560 And I called Mouse. I was like, hey, man, I'm. 0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:09.600 Sorry, bro, but I got a flat tire. I'm stuck 0:37:09.640 --> 0:37:11.840 on the side of the road. Man, I can't They're 0:37:11.880 --> 0:37:13.680 not gonna be able to get to me for another hour. 0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:17.600 I'm not gonna make it. He's like, all right, you 0:37:17.600 --> 0:37:20.759 want me to reschedule? Okay, bye, hung up the phone, 0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:24.759 turned my phone off, and just continue to do some 0:37:24.840 --> 0:37:25.960 bullshit and. 0:37:26.520 --> 0:37:28.920 That kind of stuff. Now it's like funny to think about. 0:37:29.000 --> 0:37:32.319 But yeah, I've been through a lot, man. 0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:36.920 Yeah, And so when is the tour going to start? 0:37:39.880 --> 0:37:43.440 He's like, I don't know, July. 0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:45.359 With July August where we're playing dates right now. We're 0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:46.439 still trying to figure it out. 0:37:46.440 --> 0:37:49.560 But man, when I tell you got to see Sarah perform, 0:37:49.800 --> 0:37:54.640 and I gotta go, I have not pretty good you know, 0:37:54.680 --> 0:37:55.799 I don't be outside like that. 0:37:56.080 --> 0:37:58.880 I definitely went to I had to, you know, and 0:37:58.920 --> 0:38:01.120 this was gonna be a lot different I'm simplified things. 0:38:01.120 --> 0:38:03.239 I think I've grown a lot of my artistry as 0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:07.640 a person. You know, I definitely want to, you know, 0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:12.000 make sure that the tour is proper this time around, 0:38:12.000 --> 0:38:14.319 the last time I wasn't even so, I wasn't so 0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:15.479 all the way sober on tour. 0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:18.880 I mean it was, I mean I couldn't tell so nobody. 0:38:19.160 --> 0:38:21.920 Yeah, yeah, it was the beginning of the end for me. 0:38:22.040 --> 0:38:24.640 But still this time around, I know I'm a lot 0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:28.600 I've been focused a lot more on my vocal. I've 0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:30.600 been doing a lot more singing, you know, I've been 0:38:30.600 --> 0:38:33.399 doing a lot more cardio. It's a lot more personal work, 0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:34.719 you know what I mean. So I'm excited to show 0:38:34.719 --> 0:38:35.600 this version of myself. 0:38:35.600 --> 0:38:36.440 You have your shirt off. 0:38:41.400 --> 0:38:43.560 They pay me extra make now have you. 0:38:43.680 --> 0:38:45.520 Have you spoken to DeAngelo at all? 0:38:45.880 --> 0:38:47.440 Never? Not a once. 0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:50.520 I feel like that could happen though, Like have you 0:38:50.640 --> 0:38:51.760 tried or figured? 0:38:51.960 --> 0:38:52.200 No? 0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:54.360 No, no, no, I barely man the features that I 0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:56.040 got on my my gcause they the hummies. 0:38:56.320 --> 0:38:57.280 I don't be reaching out. 0:38:57.280 --> 0:38:59.280 So Anderson Pack, I love that song. 0:38:59.280 --> 0:38:59.960 My bros man. 0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:08.799 Yeah, he's single now and probably Jesus. 0:39:06.760 --> 0:39:08.440 Man, I'm always praying for him. Man, that's a good 0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:09.839 friend of mine for sure. 0:39:10.080 --> 0:39:13.160 He was talking about his Vegas residency. Ain't it crazy 0:39:13.200 --> 0:39:16.799 how these Vegas residencies are no joke right now? Like 0:39:16.880 --> 0:39:19.719 we need to be. It used to be like Vegas residency. 0:39:19.719 --> 0:39:22.320 You looked at it like okay, you know this person. 0:39:22.840 --> 0:39:24.760 But now it's like it's. 0:39:25.280 --> 0:39:27.080 Yeah, it used to be strikes. 0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:30.920 Yeah, I mean Celine Dion had like that Vegas residency 0:39:31.040 --> 0:39:34.560 that was you know, but it wasn't for us necessarily right. 0:39:34.640 --> 0:39:36.480 And then when we had a chance to see like 0:39:36.760 --> 0:39:40.240 you know, Bruno Mars and Anderson Pack and Wu Tang 0:39:40.320 --> 0:39:43.040 and now jo Toasy and new addition Usher really changed 0:39:43.040 --> 0:39:43.279 the game. 0:39:43.360 --> 0:39:44.680 Yea did change the game? 0:39:44.800 --> 0:39:45.000 You know. 0:39:45.120 --> 0:39:45.919 Did you see that show? 0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:49.439 You know it's crazy. I did not, Okay, and I can't. 0:39:52.000 --> 0:39:52.440 I didn't. 0:39:52.680 --> 0:39:56.600 I want to see new additions and I want to see, yes, 0:39:56.640 --> 0:39:58.000 new editions in Vegas now. 0:39:57.920 --> 0:39:59.680 Yeah, I can't wait. 0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:02.560 That might be a good date night for you. Give 0:40:02.560 --> 0:40:05.080 me something to do, go right on down to Vegas. 0:40:05.280 --> 0:40:06.920 We have to take our daughter as we got no 0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:08.600 baby shitter nobody. 0:40:08.600 --> 0:40:11.640 You don't let nobody watch the baby. But you guys 0:40:11.719 --> 0:40:12.760 have family members. 0:40:13.080 --> 0:40:16.080 Yeah, sure, sure, it's not thing you. 0:40:16.080 --> 0:40:18.319 All at those parents like nobody's. 0:40:17.960 --> 0:40:20.400 I mean my mom for sure, but we don't you know, 0:40:20.560 --> 0:40:24.080 push that on her. Would love to though she loves to. 0:40:24.239 --> 0:40:27.320 No, she does ever softer, But my my daughter doesn't 0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:28.920 like go hang out and spending the night at other 0:40:29.040 --> 0:40:29.520 kid's house. 0:40:29.600 --> 0:40:31.200 Is that not you know I was talking about. 0:40:31.400 --> 0:40:33.600 That's so I think that's the first kid thing. 0:40:33.800 --> 0:40:34.800 Yeah, yeah, we did that. 0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:36.799 That was like, oh, it's my first kid. By the 0:40:36.800 --> 0:40:38.640 time y'all get to the third baby, you're gonna. 0:40:38.440 --> 0:40:42.400 Be like, yeah, is there anybody that can take this child? 0:40:44.640 --> 0:40:46.600 The one time we did it, this was like a 0:40:46.600 --> 0:40:48.520 couple of weeks ago. I swear to god, we tried 0:40:48.520 --> 0:40:50.440 it out. We send it to our sister's house, send 0:40:50.480 --> 0:40:53.640 her to Dan's wife and uh you know, Ange's sweetest part. 0:40:53.760 --> 0:40:55.920 They have great relationships. There are other kids at the house. 0:40:56.480 --> 0:40:59.040 Man brought my daughter back sick oft dog and my 0:40:59.080 --> 0:41:00.480 wife has been sick for two weeks. 0:41:00.560 --> 0:41:00.719 Yep. 0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:03.319 Well you know them kids always get when they go 0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:04.840 to school, especially oh. 0:41:04.680 --> 0:41:06.640 My god, this was serious. Those one of those like 0:41:06.640 --> 0:41:07.520 whooping coughs. 0:41:07.600 --> 0:41:09.400 Yeah, you know what I mean. They come back with 0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:10.200 all types of six. 0:41:13.040 --> 0:41:14.840 My parents would never let me spend the night at 0:41:14.840 --> 0:41:17.080 anybody's house growing up, But everybody used to spend the 0:41:17.120 --> 0:41:17.719 night at my house. 0:41:18.080 --> 0:41:20.000 Come on over, our house is clean. We'll keep you 0:41:20.080 --> 0:41:22.120 clean and send you home clean. 0:41:22.640 --> 0:41:23.720 He's not going to get cleaner. 0:41:24.520 --> 0:41:26.200 Yeah, and we learned our lesson. 0:41:26.200 --> 0:41:28.640 I feel like that was like, I mean, it was 0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:30.960 important for us to try, for sure, but we understand 0:41:31.320 --> 0:41:35.120 with our daughter, especially like she's not you know, no, 0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:37.240 she's not ready for that. 0:41:36.800 --> 0:41:38.799 You know, That's how I was with my daughter. I'm 0:41:38.840 --> 0:41:40.560 telling right now, I don't know where my kids at 0:41:42.520 --> 0:41:46.879 right now, I'm like, where, Well, your. 0:41:46.800 --> 0:41:49.680 Kids wrong though I feel like they yeah, they. 0:41:49.560 --> 0:41:52.360 Can, but when you have your third kid, you're like, 0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:56.359 I tried, I did everything. 0:41:55.600 --> 0:41:58.400 You know what I wanted to ask you to. With 0:41:58.480 --> 0:42:01.960 so many conversations about marriage now and people being like 0:42:02.040 --> 0:42:03.440 off of it, like I don't know if I need 0:42:03.520 --> 0:42:05.719 to be married, tell us why it was important for 0:42:05.800 --> 0:42:07.920 you to be married and why marriage is important to you. 0:42:08.480 --> 0:42:11.280 Ah, man, that's a good question. 0:42:12.120 --> 0:42:14.120 When I first got married, I probably wouldn't have been 0:42:14.160 --> 0:42:15.280 able to tell you that answer. 0:42:15.360 --> 0:42:16.799 But marriage is important to me. 0:42:16.840 --> 0:42:21.120 Now because it's a real agreement, not just between me 0:42:21.520 --> 0:42:22.320 and my wife. 0:42:22.400 --> 0:42:24.800 Up between me and my God, my family, you know 0:42:24.840 --> 0:42:26.960 what I mean. And I. 0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:31.560 Love this woman that way, you know what I mean. 0:42:31.600 --> 0:42:33.560 A lot of people get married for the wrong reasons. 0:42:33.640 --> 0:42:37.240 But I love this woman more than I love anything, 0:42:38.000 --> 0:42:40.600 and should be able to show her that with some 0:42:40.760 --> 0:42:43.520 simple steps. Being married is a small step, just a 0:42:43.520 --> 0:42:45.839 part of the contract. Doing the work is the hard part, 0:42:46.560 --> 0:42:49.520 you know. But I'm proud to be her husband. And 0:42:49.840 --> 0:42:51.080 I lived my life like that. 0:42:51.200 --> 0:42:51.400 You know. 0:42:51.560 --> 0:42:53.600 I was sold when you said she had phone privileges, 0:42:53.880 --> 0:42:57.400 because let me just tell you something. The phone and 0:42:57.480 --> 0:43:01.320 these men with the face down phone right. 0:43:01.560 --> 0:43:06.120 And the and the protective speed, the protective and the 0:43:06.200 --> 0:43:06.560 dn D. 0:43:06.800 --> 0:43:07.960 I let me tell you something. 0:43:08.120 --> 0:43:09.080 Your phone ain't ringing? 0:43:09.960 --> 0:43:12.840 His phone is it announces the person's name out loud 0:43:12.960 --> 0:43:14.080 and somebody cross him. 0:43:14.560 --> 0:43:18.000 That's funny. Phone ringing twelve The phone. 0:43:17.880 --> 0:43:20.560 Been silent for twelve egg, no one calling you because 0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:22.240 every time I called you always on the phone. 0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:24.920 And then having any phone right here and next to them, 0:43:25.080 --> 0:43:27.520 the phone sleep with the phone. That's the best feeling. 0:43:27.520 --> 0:43:29.480 When you're in a space where you can have my code, 0:43:29.480 --> 0:43:31.879 I'm not doing nothing and I'm not like that's a 0:43:31.920 --> 0:43:33.919 different feeling in a relationship. 0:43:34.000 --> 0:43:38.120 You know, I think my wife is is never She's 0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:39.960 never been the type to even want to be all 0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:42.160 in my ship like that, you know, and still is, 0:43:42.719 --> 0:43:45.000 you know what I mean. But needed to feel comfortable, 0:43:45.400 --> 0:43:47.040 you know what I mean, And that she took time. 0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:50.000 Fuck man, it was a long time where she felt 0:43:50.040 --> 0:43:50.759 the need to go. 0:43:50.760 --> 0:43:51.360 Through my phone. 0:43:51.360 --> 0:43:53.680 But I was gonna say, she probably don't even look 0:43:53.719 --> 0:43:55.040 at your phone now because. 0:43:54.760 --> 0:43:58.600 She phone mins my daughter's right. 0:43:58.680 --> 0:44:01.200 Nobody like, what's what's hiding? 0:44:01.480 --> 0:44:05.040 Yeah, she ain't not known Nickelodeon, nickelodeon. 0:44:06.040 --> 0:44:06.239 You know. 0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:08.600 You know how many guys have gotten cauck because their 0:44:08.719 --> 0:44:11.399 kids was on their phone and then the baby mom 0:44:11.480 --> 0:44:13.600 grabbed the phone while it was unlocked. 0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:15.040 Yeah, is that a thing. 0:44:15.160 --> 0:44:15.759 That's a thing. 0:44:15.960 --> 0:44:19.120 I'm glad I don't have to worry about. That's yeah. 0:44:19.280 --> 0:44:22.359 Oh my god, opening the phone face. I d want 0:44:22.400 --> 0:44:23.319 to sleep. 0:44:23.160 --> 0:44:25.960 Like yo, that's cool. 0:44:26.200 --> 0:44:28.520 Oh yeah, if you did get caught, how did you 0:44:28.520 --> 0:44:29.600 get caught? 0:44:30.239 --> 0:44:30.880 I talked about it. 0:44:30.960 --> 0:44:32.920 That was one thing that that it was never you 0:44:33.000 --> 0:44:34.880 know what I mean. Of course she's seen some text messages. 0:44:34.920 --> 0:44:36.919 She should up next message, you know for sure. 0:44:37.760 --> 0:44:40.279 One time it was an iPad like she was on 0:44:40.360 --> 0:44:43.160 my iPad and went through my messages on my iPad, 0:44:43.400 --> 0:44:45.719 which are always you know, when I thought I was 0:44:45.800 --> 0:44:47.440 being slick and deleted on my phone. 0:44:47.520 --> 0:44:50.840 Yeah, you can look there on my phone if you want. 0:44:49.600 --> 0:44:53.160 But yeah, I didn't know they stayed. 0:44:53.120 --> 0:44:55.400 They wasn't up on technology. 0:44:56.320 --> 0:44:58.680 Nothing is not a good liar. 0:44:59.000 --> 0:45:02.280 Yeah, those men aren't. I'm gonna say that most mens 0:45:02.320 --> 0:45:05.200 can't lie. They can't like people can tell you. 0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:07.680 Women are sneakier than men, for sure. 0:45:08.160 --> 0:45:11.640 I'm much better at being honest now. And you know 0:45:11.840 --> 0:45:15.560 she's she's not stupid, you know what I mean. 0:45:15.800 --> 0:45:18.600 It didn't take long before things was a mess, and 0:45:18.920 --> 0:45:21.120 you know, we needed our time in our space and 0:45:21.320 --> 0:45:23.960 I worked through my ship, she worked through hers, and 0:45:24.080 --> 0:45:26.359 we met in the middle and started over. 0:45:26.600 --> 0:45:29.200 It was definitely a blessing for y'all. 0:45:29.560 --> 0:45:31.360 What song would you say on the album is about 0:45:31.360 --> 0:45:37.000 her brighter? The last song it feels that's like a 0:45:37.040 --> 0:45:38.600 gospel type of feel to it. 0:45:38.920 --> 0:45:43.960 Definitely, definitely, But yeah, it's an old tar relationship, you 0:45:43.960 --> 0:45:45.560 know what I mean. Things are heading in the right direction, 0:45:45.719 --> 0:45:47.319 and that's what the album is. You notice we're starting 0:45:47.320 --> 0:45:49.920 a real bullshit place with something like ignorant and we 0:45:50.040 --> 0:45:54.040 end up in a beautiful place with ignorant journey. 0:45:54.160 --> 0:45:56.040 It gets real heavy right after that, too. 0:45:57.160 --> 0:45:59.560 Well, listen, I appreciate you so much for coming through. 0:45:59.760 --> 0:46:01.919 This is really like, I feel like we could talk 0:46:01.960 --> 0:46:05.640 to you for as money long as say yeah, I 0:46:05.840 --> 0:46:08.919 get to ask this ahead, Yeah, whatever you need. 0:46:09.120 --> 0:46:12.480 Your mom sings back back up for Michael Jackson, that's true. 0:46:13.200 --> 0:46:15.960 Did you ever meet Michael Jackson? Because I'm obsessed. 0:46:15.640 --> 0:46:18.719 Never Now, one of the coolest things about being in 0:46:18.760 --> 0:46:19.600 a musical family. 0:46:19.640 --> 0:46:20.840 I'll leave you out with this story. 0:46:20.880 --> 0:46:22.880 This was one of the coolest things that ever happened 0:46:22.880 --> 0:46:26.040 my mom's sixtieth birthday. Now, mind you, My mom grew 0:46:26.160 --> 0:46:29.440 up listening to you know, the great Stevie Wonder, Prince 0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:33.640 Michael Jackson, and idolized Stevie Wonder in particular. For her 0:46:33.680 --> 0:46:39.520 sixtieth birthday, my brother Daniel got Stevie Wonder to pull 0:46:39.600 --> 0:46:42.760 up to her birthday party, wow and play my Sherrier 0:46:42.880 --> 0:46:49.319 more Oh my God, sang Miss Jackie onay. I had 0:46:49.320 --> 0:46:52.040 my mom sing with him, oh Wow. And then my 0:46:52.120 --> 0:46:55.520 brother Davean got Tyrese to come on stage and sing 0:46:55.520 --> 0:46:59.600 to my mom nice and I brought Rudy the full 0:47:00.120 --> 0:47:07.040 the regular Stevie Wonder and Tyree's. So it was an 0:47:07.040 --> 0:47:11.160 interesting day. We all laugh about that. But yeah, you know, 0:47:11.200 --> 0:47:12.440 and that was a cool moment, you. 0:47:12.360 --> 0:47:12.879 Know what I mean. 0:47:13.000 --> 0:47:14.800 And you were in the studio with Stevie Wonder. 0:47:14.920 --> 0:47:15.719 Yeah, a couple of times. 0:47:15.840 --> 0:47:17.560 Are we ever going to hear any of those sessions? 0:47:17.560 --> 0:47:17.759 No? 0:47:17.760 --> 0:47:21.560 No, never. You need to get us some cool things, 0:47:22.680 --> 0:47:25.279 not the stuff. No, No, you should ask him. 0:47:25.560 --> 0:47:25.759 You know. 0:47:25.800 --> 0:47:28.880 One of the cooler things that that I've done was was, 0:47:29.440 --> 0:47:31.239 you know, work with Jill Scott and that's when I 0:47:31.280 --> 0:47:31.880 met Stevie. 0:47:32.560 --> 0:47:34.480 And so the first time I met him wasn't even 0:47:34.520 --> 0:47:35.240 the studio session. 0:47:35.280 --> 0:47:37.839 He just came to see miss Jill and literally picked 0:47:37.920 --> 0:47:41.080 up a lap steal and played it and sang songs 0:47:41.080 --> 0:47:43.640 in the quil life, like six different songs on the 0:47:43.680 --> 0:47:44.200 lap steal. 0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:46.520 STEVEE wonders. I hate to be that guy to do 0:47:46.560 --> 0:47:47.560 the example, but that's how. 0:47:48.080 --> 0:47:58.640 Definitely like that, like skillfully too, just like man when 0:47:58.640 --> 0:48:00.120 he said, at my mother sixty it. 0:48:04.440 --> 0:48:10.799 Ste Wonder what I've met Stevie Wonder once. It was 0:48:10.920 --> 0:48:14.080 we were interviewing Hillary Clinton and it was her birthday 0:48:14.080 --> 0:48:17.000 and he came and saying happy birthday. I just want 0:48:17.000 --> 0:48:20.960 to say, that's a flex Now. I would rather have 0:48:21.120 --> 0:48:23.560 had my mom, you know what I'm saying, have him 0:48:23.560 --> 0:48:26.920 say mushry or more from my mind, that would have 0:48:26.920 --> 0:48:29.080 been even better. But you know, I take what I 0:48:29.080 --> 0:48:31.960 can get. Yeah, And so that was that was super 0:48:32.000 --> 0:48:36.440 exciting for me. Man. Listen, honestly, sir, I have always, 0:48:36.560 --> 0:48:39.440 like really been a fan of yours. So I'm excited 0:48:39.840 --> 0:48:42.040 to see you in this space. I know this album 0:48:42.200 --> 0:48:45.040 is an album that means a lot to you and 0:48:46.160 --> 0:48:50.240 is painful too, definitely. You know, in a way, sometimes 0:48:50.239 --> 0:48:52.280 the best music comes from pain. I know. We hate 0:48:52.280 --> 0:48:55.240 to say it. I saw somebody say about Mary day Bliges, 0:48:55.320 --> 0:48:57.400 like how she's happy in a relationship. They were like, what, 0:48:57.480 --> 0:49:00.480 the music ain't going to be hidden? But no, I 0:49:00.520 --> 0:49:03.040 hate when you do that. But like when you think 0:49:03.080 --> 0:49:06.479 about Tony Braxton Amy Winehouse, like some of the best 0:49:06.560 --> 0:49:11.800 music does unfortunately it's therapy. You let it from that space. 0:49:12.320 --> 0:49:13.879 Sure, and I'm happy to share the story. 0:49:13.920 --> 0:49:15.440 I know a lot of people like are ashamed of 0:49:15.480 --> 0:49:17.799 themselves and don't know how to talk about it. That's 0:49:17.800 --> 0:49:20.040 a big thing in the community, like talking about it, 0:49:20.040 --> 0:49:22.120 you know what I mean. But I'm definitely trying to 0:49:22.160 --> 0:49:24.080 help the next person. I'm not trying to like hide 0:49:24.120 --> 0:49:27.239 my story because my tragedy can be, you know, help 0:49:27.280 --> 0:49:29.279 for somebody else. I'm trying to turn my tragedy into 0:49:29.320 --> 0:49:30.319 a testimony for sure. 0:49:30.560 --> 0:49:33.680 And what's great is it feels like a happy ending. 0:49:34.080 --> 0:49:37.799 Not like that, but yeah, I know it's service but 0:49:39.080 --> 0:49:41.400 he likes hand jobs again. But it feels like a 0:49:41.480 --> 0:49:44.279 happy ending because you are still with your wife, you know, 0:49:44.400 --> 0:49:46.360 and you do have a body of work that you 0:49:46.400 --> 0:49:50.080 were able to put together even at times when you 0:49:50.120 --> 0:49:54.120 were at your you know, at your worst, and now 0:49:54.160 --> 0:49:57.319 you're going on tour and you know. So I'm looking 0:49:57.360 --> 0:50:03.359 forward to seeing the Are doubt me? Okay, Well, don't 0:50:03.360 --> 0:50:05.719 doubt me. I'll be there. Yeah, and Kim Kim is 0:50:05.760 --> 0:50:09.200 always my always roll dog in New York and GIZI 0:50:09.280 --> 0:50:11.600 will be there in Atlanta absolutely, Yeah, will be there. 0:50:11.600 --> 0:50:14.560 Absolutely listen. I'll drop in your DMS now. So, Kelly, 0:50:14.600 --> 0:50:23.600 I don't want now, I appreciate. I know she's got 0:50:23.640 --> 0:50:26.000 to be amazing though, because you know, just the fact 0:50:26.040 --> 0:50:27.879 that y'all have been together so long. I know she's 0:50:27.920 --> 0:50:31.040 secure and you know, her relationship with you, and she 0:50:31.120 --> 0:50:32.280 knows we don't need no harm. 0:50:33.520 --> 0:50:35.040 Will love Kelly. Y'all ain't gonna ever meet her, but 0:50:35.080 --> 0:50:35.640 y'all love her. 0:50:35.680 --> 0:50:38.600 Yes, we will be right up here on this count. 0:50:38.600 --> 0:50:40.200 I think so. 0:50:42.920 --> 0:50:45.280 Thank you so much, sir. We appreciate you so much. 0:50:45.320 --> 0:50:48.399 And congratulations on everything, and I'm so glad that things 0:50:48.480 --> 0:50:49.360 right now are brighter. 0:50:49.560 --> 0:50:50.279 Thank you for having me. 0:50:50.920 --> 0:50:52.800 Yes, congratulations, it's lift service