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Speaker 2: stop by. Stat of the Day always brought to you
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Speaker 2: Patrick Show. There was an interesting stat and I had
Speaker 2: not heard this stat before. No team has ever won
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl while not having any takeaways during the postseason.
Speaker 2: The Chiefs do not have a takeaway yet this postseason.
Speaker 2: I don't know how many times we've had teams that
Speaker 2: have gone into the Super Bowl with that stat but
Speaker 2: no takeaways here. Also, no players ever scored a touchdown
Speaker 2: or rush for one hundred yards or more in the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl on their birthday. Saquon Barkley's birthday is February ninth. Now, well,
Speaker 2: but I don't know how many running backs have celebrated
Speaker 2: their birthday on the day of the Super Bowl. So
Speaker 2: it's a weird stat where you go, oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: I don't know how many of those running backs you
Speaker 2: know had their birthday on Super Bowl Sunday.
Speaker 3: Yes, Marvin Bam Morris his birthday was on Super Bowl
Speaker 3: thirty oh.
Speaker 2: Look at you Blue Blue.
Speaker 3: No, No, absolutely not. You know what Wore's birthday was.
Speaker 2: Why are you doing stuff like that? Yes, Paulie, I
Speaker 2: don't know what's going.
Speaker 4: To be like to be a New York Giants fan
Speaker 4: watching that game on Sunday. That is brutal because you
Speaker 4: you don't want to root against Saquon Barkley, but if
Speaker 4: he wins MVP, it's double the pain.
Speaker 2: The countdown is on Celebrate One Night fifty years in
Speaker 2: the making, the Saturday Night Live fiftieth anniversary special premiere Sunday,
Speaker 2: February sixteenth on NBC and Peacock. From Saquon Barkley to
Speaker 2: Charles Barkley. No relation that I know of. Turn your
Speaker 2: sports inside the NBA, and you're not related to Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 2: Are you.
Speaker 5: Claiming? And I don't care if we are and not.
Speaker 5: I don't think we are. But I'm playing them. I'm claiming.
Speaker 5: I've been claiming in my all year. He's my cousin.
Speaker 5: I don't care what anybody says.
Speaker 2: Did you play football in high school?
Speaker 6: I played one day.
Speaker 2: What happened?
Speaker 5: I realized they were really hitting people out there. You know,
Speaker 5: that's the reason football is my favorite sport. It takes
Speaker 5: tremendous courage to go out there. You know, football and
Speaker 5: boxing and my two favorite sports. I played football for
Speaker 5: one day I realized they were nuts. They're tougher than me,
Speaker 5: and I quit.
Speaker 2: And you're not much of a boxer either.
Speaker 6: I can fight a little bit. I can hold my own.
Speaker 5: The good thing about fighting boxing is different boxing. Y'all
Speaker 5: got gloves on, trying to hit each other. Fighting whatever
Speaker 5: you can get your hands on to hit somebody, that's
Speaker 5: what goes. That's a big difference.
Speaker 6: Dan.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, also when you fought in the NBA, somebody
Speaker 2: was usually going to grab you, so it didn't escalate
Speaker 2: too much further.
Speaker 5: Well, first of all, if you're out there fight any way,
Speaker 5: you're punk. You know, Kevin McHale, the best player I
Speaker 5: ever played against, always said he said the thing I know.
Speaker 5: He says, I never worried about the pistions. He says,
Speaker 5: they're out the beating up people. At some point, you
Speaker 5: got to play basketball, and only two of the guys
Speaker 5: can play, Isaiah Thomas and Joe Dumars, and we were
Speaker 5: gonna win eventually.
Speaker 2: He said.
Speaker 5: The rest of those guys out there just beating up people,
Speaker 5: he said, but as she s a Charles. At some
Speaker 5: point we realized they had to play basketball and the
Speaker 5: other two guys they had we were worried about Isaiah
Speaker 5: and Joe Thomas, Joe Dumars my bad.
Speaker 2: All right, who are you betting on Super Bowl Sunday?
Speaker 5: My Philadelphia Eagles. Then I'm a big Eagles fan. We're
Speaker 5: putting the end of this reign of terror in Kansas City.
Speaker 5: You know what's really crazy. I love Pat Mahons and
Speaker 5: Travis Kelsey, but I'll bet against them every game in
Speaker 5: the last two years because I actually thought they were.
Speaker 6: Going to lose.
Speaker 5: The only game I actually won in the last two
Speaker 5: years is when for some reason and to read, ran
Speaker 5: out of the end zone and.
Speaker 6: I covered with the safety by half a point. I
Speaker 6: have lost.
Speaker 5: I think it's I think it's six straight games I
Speaker 5: bet against the Chiefs. I thought they would lose. You know,
Speaker 5: two years ago, the law oftimes they're gonna lose at Buffalo.
Speaker 5: Then I thought they would lose to the Ravens. Then
Speaker 5: I had San Francisco in the Super Bowl. I didn't
Speaker 5: think they were gonna lose to the Texans, but I
Speaker 5: thought the Texans would cover then I had the bills.
Speaker 6: I'm rooting for the bills and they didn't.
Speaker 5: But hey, I haven't learned my lessons I'm taking and
Speaker 5: it's just ironic. I'm really an Eagle fan. But the
Speaker 5: rain of Terror is over Sunday night.
Speaker 2: Why don't you just give your money to charity and
Speaker 2: not bet on the game.
Speaker 5: I will be at a casino. Why would I go
Speaker 5: to a casino and not bet on the game?
Speaker 2: I know, but you tend to lose a lot.
Speaker 6: I got a lot.
Speaker 2: And this doesn't even incorporate your new deal that you're
Speaker 2: going to have with your TV partner, your next one.
Speaker 5: Hey, listen, I'm trying to figure out all that stuff out, Dan.
Speaker 5: It's been very fascinated behind the scenes. There's been a
Speaker 5: lot of shit, canay going on behind the scenes that
Speaker 5: I haven't been happy with, and I'm hoping everything works out.
Speaker 5: But it's been fascinated dealing with all the tntbs.
Speaker 6: This entire time.
Speaker 2: Okay, why haven't you reached out to me privately?
Speaker 5: Well, Dan, I'm just trying to figure out. Like I say,
Speaker 5: I don't have to make a decision asap.
Speaker 2: But I can help you. I've been at a couple
Speaker 2: of places that you're probably negotiating with. If you had questions,
Speaker 2: I would give you honest answers. I've done that for
Speaker 2: other athletes.
Speaker 6: Yeah, listen.
Speaker 5: It was really fascinating people talking about money and all
Speaker 5: this other stuff. I dude, I ain't worried about no money.
Speaker 5: My decision was gonna come down strictly to one thing.
Speaker 5: My workload. I've been I've been to TNT for twenty
Speaker 5: five years. Then I'm really good at working one day
Speaker 5: a week. I am great at it.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 5: So you know, I was like, yo, man, I'm not
Speaker 5: going work. I'm gonna be older. I'll be six to
Speaker 5: two in a couple of weeks. I'm not going to
Speaker 5: work more as I get older. That was my only concern.
Speaker 5: And NBC was great, you know, Mark Lass and Greg
Speaker 5: Hughes were great to me, but I turned their offer
Speaker 5: down because they had too much stuff in there for
Speaker 5: me to do. And then I counseled all the stuff
Speaker 5: all the other means. With Amazon. They were great at Amazon,
Speaker 5: but after meeting with ESPN they made me feel better.
Speaker 5: But I just want to get between TNT and ESPN.
Speaker 5: I said, I just want to figure out which my workload.
Speaker 5: They haven't given me an a definitive answer, because I
Speaker 5: don't think they know their definitive answer, to be honest
Speaker 5: with you.
Speaker 2: So you could stay at TNT.
Speaker 1: I could.
Speaker 5: I could always have stayed a TNT, but I put
Speaker 5: in my contract I could get out of there if
Speaker 5: they lost the NBA. You know, it's really funny the
Speaker 5: TNT people, they're stupid. They tried to say to me
Speaker 5: that I was They wrote a c Center Assist letter
Speaker 5: to Amazon and NBC, and it really pissed me off because,
Speaker 5: wait a minute, but they're trying to say that they
Speaker 5: traded my show to ESPN, and that's the same as
Speaker 5: them keeping it. I'm like, I don't think that's the
Speaker 5: way it works'.
Speaker 6: That's what they were trying that.
Speaker 5: We were having some heated discussions behind scenes down in Atlanta.
Speaker 6: I was like, wait a minute.
Speaker 5: Yah, they sent a c Cent Assist letter to NBC
Speaker 5: and Amazon saying I wasn't available. I said, that's not
Speaker 5: the way my contract reads. Y'all lost the NBA. If
Speaker 5: I wanted to leave, I could leave. That was the
Speaker 5: ball of contention. I says, They're like, no, you on
Speaker 5: the contract. I said, well, I'll take my chances in court.
Speaker 5: And I felt really good about my chances in court because,
Speaker 5: regardless of what they say, Dan, them trading us to
Speaker 5: ESP and ain't the same as us being on the
Speaker 5: contract to T and T.
Speaker 2: It's Charles Barkley, Hall of Famer, Turner Sports for the
Speaker 2: moment inside the NBA analyst who won the Luca ad trade.
Speaker 2: Right now, let's look at it as of today.
Speaker 5: Oh, the Dallas Mavericks their contender right away.
Speaker 6: They got a really good team.
Speaker 5: People forgetting about mass Christian mass Christy gonna help the MAVs.
Speaker 6: But listen, ad was ay d You know, he's played.
Speaker 5: Great the last couple of years, and if he plays
Speaker 5: like he's played to Guay was just coming off a
Speaker 5: forty twenty game, and if he plays like that. Because
Speaker 5: what's interesting about the NBA, Dan, I'm not sure who
Speaker 5: the favorite is right now. We can say, okay, see
Speaker 5: they're the favorite in the West, but the Apps are
Speaker 5: the second best team in the West right this day.
Speaker 5: And I'm not sure what's going on with the Celtics.
Speaker 5: So man, we could talk all the noise we want to.
Speaker 5: The championship is up for grabs right now. The Celtics
Speaker 5: have not looked good all year in my opinion. But
Speaker 5: in the West, Okac is the prohibit a favorite. But man,
Speaker 5: they've never been in the fire before day and that's
Speaker 5: the favorite going in. So that's gonna be a shock
Speaker 5: to their system with everybody gunning for him. But right now,
Speaker 5: the MAVs one is for the next two or three years.
Speaker 6: The mav won the trade.
Speaker 2: Now that Lebron has Luca, Lebron more likely to stay
Speaker 2: an extra year or two or maybe leave or retired.
Speaker 5: You know, that's a fascinating question, like is he what
Speaker 5: is he hanging around for? I personally think if I
Speaker 5: was him, the Lakers are not contenders right now. I
Speaker 5: would waive my note trade I do with Tom Brady
Speaker 5: and go put myself in a perfect situation where I
Speaker 5: can have two more bites of the apple. And I
Speaker 5: don't know the perfect situation. But he's he's holding all
Speaker 5: the cards. He can go to the Leger and say, hey,
Speaker 5: let's have our cake and eat it too. I can
Speaker 5: get you all a couple of players, maybe a couple
Speaker 5: of draft picks. Let's pick out a perfect scenario. That's
Speaker 5: what Tom Brady did. Took the perfect situation in Tampa.
Speaker 5: If I'm Lebron, I can say we're not gonna win
Speaker 5: the championship this year or next year, let's trade to
Speaker 5: a perfect scenario.
Speaker 6: But they can, like I say, the only.
Speaker 5: Problem they got right now they got to make decisions
Speaker 5: by Thursday at four o'clock.
Speaker 6: But you know that's a lot of time in NBA years.
Speaker 5: That's what I was I would do if I was him.
Speaker 2: When you hear the criticism or teaks of Luca's uh
Speaker 2: you know, physical shape of how do you react to them?
Speaker 5: Well, Dan, if everybody's saying it, it's probably fair. You
Speaker 5: know everybody's been I find it fascinating that all of
Speaker 5: us have been talking about Luca's conditioning for three years now,
Speaker 5: all of a sudden it's an insult.
Speaker 6: Like I don't think people were hiding it.
Speaker 5: I think everybody's heard the same criticism for three years now,
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, I saw its dead, Like they're
Speaker 5: saying these things.
Speaker 6: About my son. I'm like, well, mister Dunchegan, fairness.
Speaker 5: I watched TV. I got a TV. They've been saying
Speaker 5: the same thing for three years. They're not saying it
Speaker 5: like out of the blue, but I will say this,
Speaker 5: he's a great, great player, But then the Dallas maverage
Speaker 5: know him better than anybody. I know he's a great
Speaker 5: player from a distance, but the Dallas map had to
Speaker 5: make a decision do we get this guy five years
Speaker 5: through one hundred and fifty million dollars.
Speaker 6: I give them credit. They made a decision.
Speaker 5: It might come back to bite them in the ass,
Speaker 5: but that's your job.
Speaker 6: Hey.
Speaker 5: Listen, a year ago, we were all pat Nko on
Speaker 5: the back because he went out and got gafferd PJ
Speaker 5: and all these other guys and got the Mayles to
Speaker 5: the finals. Now everybody act like it was only Luca
Speaker 5: and Kyrie that got them to the finals. No, Nico
Speaker 5: did a tremendous job last year. He made like three
Speaker 5: or four trades that got the Mayles to the finals.
Speaker 5: If they just had to had Luca and Kyrie, they
Speaker 5: wouldn't have made it to the finals last year. But
Speaker 5: they picked up three pieces during the trade deadline and
Speaker 5: made them a contender to get to the finals. But
Speaker 5: like I say, hey, that's the job man Nico, and
Speaker 5: I gave him credit.
Speaker 6: He went out there and answered all the courtions.
Speaker 5: He didn't run, he didn't hide, a lot of times
Speaker 5: that these general managers make bad trades. They put out
Speaker 5: statement and things like that. I give Nico credit. He
Speaker 5: sat down, he took all the questions. Now I will
Speaker 5: say this, this is a job trade. This is this
Speaker 5: is a job trade. If the trade doesn't work, you're
Speaker 5: gonna lose your job. There's there's there's a there's very
Speaker 5: there's very few jobs in sports as a general manager
Speaker 5: of president whoever running things that I call them trade jobs.
Speaker 5: If the trade doesn't work, you're gonna lose your job.
Speaker 5: Playing and simple, and it should be like that because
Speaker 5: I've been saying for years I think the easiest job
Speaker 5: and the best job in the NBA is running the
Speaker 5: NBA team because you get to blame three coaches before people.
Speaker 6: Realize you're the problem.
Speaker 5: Because think about that, Dan, very few coaches, maybe Popovich,
Speaker 5: there's all. How many coaches actually have power to make
Speaker 5: the great Papa Buson is probably the last guy who
Speaker 5: get complete power of an NBA team. But the rest
Speaker 5: of these general manager they get to fire like they
Speaker 5: get to make ten bad deals and fire three coaches
Speaker 5: and then people says, well, what's the consistent thing here?
Speaker 6: The general manager? So hey, but that goes with the job. Brother.
Speaker 2: Would you want Jimmy Butler as a teammate.
Speaker 5: I would want Jimmy Butler as a teammate. I think
Speaker 5: it's a hell of a teammate. But I think Jimmy
Speaker 5: is misguided because you know, Dan, I've said this before.
Speaker 5: I'm not just saying for some reason, these players think
Speaker 5: you they owe you a lifetime contract. Dude, we paid
Speaker 5: you fifty million dollars last year, this year, and next year,
Speaker 5: and you're gonna be older and you're starting and you're
Speaker 5: there in decline anyway, and I see foods on TV
Speaker 5: time of Jimmy Butler's right, Jimmy Butler is one hundred
Speaker 5: percent wrong. They don't you take I don't want to
Speaker 5: still be playing for the sixers of the Suns. They
Speaker 5: like you get old and they're not gonna pay you.
Speaker 5: They paid you very Listen. I love Klay Thompson. I
Speaker 5: love Klay Thompson. He won four championship with the Warriors.
Speaker 5: The Warriors made a business decision. Clay, you're getting older,
Speaker 5: you had an achilles, you had an acl We're not
Speaker 5: going to pay you. I have no problem. That's business man,
Speaker 5: it's nothing personal.
Speaker 2: Where are you gonna be watching the Super Bowl?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 5: Dan, I take the same twelve guys to Vegas for
Speaker 5: twenty this'll be our twenty eight straight year. We play
Speaker 5: golf all day Saturday, we get up Sunday morning, play golf,
Speaker 5: then we go to the casino with ten thousand people
Speaker 5: basically in Washington Super Bowl in Vegas.
Speaker 6: I've done it.
Speaker 5: I take the same twelve to fifteen guys every year.
Speaker 5: It's like it's on the highlights of my year.
Speaker 2: But do you pick up the tab for these freeloaders?
Speaker 5: Well, I got to see how the gambling goes because
Speaker 5: you know how to Vegas works. You get everything free
Speaker 5: until you total up at the end of the weekend. Hey,
Speaker 5: all I have to do is provide the private jet
Speaker 5: with that comes with the casino and all the rooms
Speaker 5: are free, all the drinks and stuff are free until
Speaker 5: Monday morning when you're checking out.
Speaker 6: It depends on how the table's been.
Speaker 2: To you, so you're really paying for the private jet.
Speaker 2: You lose no trip, That's why they send the private
Speaker 2: jet because of previous trips.
Speaker 5: When you've lost, you don't lose all the time, Dan,
Speaker 5: sometimes you win.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they send the private jet because they know you're
Speaker 2: probably they.
Speaker 6: Send the private jet. They send the private jet to get.
Speaker 2: You there because they know what happens when you get there.
Speaker 5: Then you win, sometimes you can't. You know, first of all,
Speaker 5: I hate when people say, hey, you go. One thing
Speaker 5: I know about gambling. You're gonna win. Sometimes you're gonna lose.
Speaker 5: Sometimes that's what gambler is. It's not like I know
Speaker 5: they set up private jet for a reason. Their job
Speaker 5: is to get me there. But you know, when I win,
Speaker 5: the jettis free and all my friends we have a
Speaker 5: great weekend. All the meals are free. But when I lose,
Speaker 5: like I've had, I've had my friends joke with me
Speaker 5: like they're like, man, those steaks and those rooms and
Speaker 5: they wasn't worth a million dollars. But hey sometimes hey,
Speaker 5: sometimes hey, but that's the deal Dan, when you go
Speaker 5: to the Yeah, hey, hey, I've been there twenty eight
Speaker 5: straight years after this year, so I'm still I'm all.
Speaker 2: Right, have fun, have fun this weekend. Good to talk
Speaker 2: to you, all right, brother, go birds. That's Charles Barkley.
Speaker 2: All right, Brady Quinn will join us. We'll talk some
Speaker 2: football with him. We'll take a break, we'll come back
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Speaker 2: first injury, who's going to probably hit it into the
Speaker 2: net most often? So we'll have those prop bets available
Speaker 2: online if you would like to bet.
Speaker 10: Yes, I haven't seen the uniforms yet.
Speaker 4: Are they like the movie Dodgeball average Joe so silky
Speaker 4: red and silver whatever.
Speaker 2: Seatan went out and got him yesterday.
Speaker 11: So do you trust Seatans always comedically, yes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you might not disappointed that it's content Spurts.
Speaker 10: You been wearing a half shirt.
Speaker 2: By the way, Marvin had this for me. He said, Hey,
Speaker 2: have you heard Klay Thompson, the Mavericks guard, talk about
Speaker 2: when Kobe came out to see Luca. This is when
Speaker 2: Clay knew that Luca was real And Klay Thompson had
Speaker 2: this to say about that moment.
Speaker 12: That's actually funny because that's the first thing I told
Speaker 12: Luca when we met. I was like, man, I knew
Speaker 12: you were going to be special because he brought Kobe
Speaker 12: out of the house to go wash and play. And
Speaker 12: Kobe doesn't just give that love to those who don't
Speaker 12: earn it. So that's a cool moment.
Speaker 2: And it is when you think about it, Kobe leaving
Speaker 2: his house to go out and watch Luca play like
Speaker 2: that was the ultimate compliment. And now Luca a Laker, Yes, Mark.
Speaker 3: Because he sure wasn't watching the Lakers at that point.
Speaker 2: Okay, Blue Bloop. Our next guest played quarterback for Notre Dame.
Speaker 2: He played quarterback in the NFL. We hung out with
Speaker 2: him in Dublin a few years back, and he was
Speaker 2: the best looking guy in the country. Here's Brady Quinn,
Speaker 2: very crisp handshake there. We were just talking about this
Speaker 2: that like DAP like I'm I'm a DAP guy. I
Speaker 2: don't need a handshake, you know. Do you think the
Speaker 2: commissioner had a tutorial prior to his first draft to
Speaker 2: understand how to shake hands with draft picks.
Speaker 11: So I actually was Roger Goodell's first draft, so I
Speaker 11: can go back and recount the fact that being how
Speaker 11: long I was in the green room, and I think
Speaker 11: his excitement to get and my family out of his
Speaker 11: green room probably was part of the reason why we
Speaker 11: like hugged. But it was more than adapt But I
Speaker 11: really I don't think anyone gave him too totural.
Speaker 10: I think he just got it in him.
Speaker 2: But he gets a little too into it.
Speaker 11: Well, it's a big moment for a lot of people there,
Speaker 11: you know, again for our family and for me. I mean,
Speaker 11: it was a long time building up to that moment.
Speaker 11: But I got drafted by the team that I root
Speaker 11: before growing up, and all that Chipotte that we had
Speaker 11: ordered during that five and a half hour stint or
Speaker 11: whatever it was, was magically whisked out of his green room.
Speaker 2: Okay, but when you're sitting there, if a draft, a
Speaker 2: guy who's going to be drafted in the first round says,
Speaker 2: so I want to bring my girlfriend. Yeah, what would
Speaker 2: you say as the commissioner or no? You from experience? Oh?
Speaker 11: I mean again, we all knew what we signed up for,
Speaker 11: whether it was my girlfriend or my parents and everyone else.
Speaker 11: I think what I would do is I would ask them,
Speaker 11: does that individual believe their girlfriend's strong enough or their
Speaker 11: family strong enough to be able to handle the camp
Speaker 11: or the pressure lights, everything else, Because up until that moment,
Speaker 11: really they have only experienced things through you. They haven't
Speaker 11: been there right with you in the spotlight. And I
Speaker 11: think that's one of the things that I wasn't really
Speaker 11: thinking about. When you're thinking about going to the NFL draft,
Speaker 11: you're just thinking about like your dream coming true and
Speaker 11: getting to play in the NFL, and you're not thinking
Speaker 11: you're gonna be sitting there for five and a half
Speaker 11: hours or whatever it was, And you're not also not
Speaker 11: thinking about how your family's gonna handle that pressure. I mean,
Speaker 11: you're prepared for it. You've handled a lot of other
Speaker 11: things your life up to that point, but that's a
Speaker 11: very different set of circumstances for your family to deal with.
Speaker 2: And trying to figure out who's telling you the truth. Yeah,
Speaker 2: during the draft process.
Speaker 11: Well, and that was part of my reaction, I think
Speaker 11: to a number of the picks based on what I
Speaker 11: was told. You know, we were told something that by
Speaker 11: Phil Salvage that was completely truthful. He's like, hey, if
Speaker 11: you enjoy their number three, like we're gonna take Joe Thomas,
Speaker 11: and my agent, Tom conn at the time told.
Speaker 10: Me the night before he goes.
Speaker 11: I've never had a general manager tell me that before
Speaker 11: draft he goes. Most times they say things like that
Speaker 11: as a moke screen. Because in this case they were truthful.
Speaker 11: And so when that pick came through, I already had
Speaker 11: an idea in my head. And to Phil's credit, Phil
Speaker 11: said that because he knew how much it meant to
Speaker 11: me to be drafted by the Browns, and so I
Speaker 11: was kind of prepared for it. But some of the
Speaker 11: other picks I had an idea, but the Miami one
Speaker 11: was the that was the most surprising. So that was
Speaker 11: probably more why I would reacted in the way I
Speaker 11: did because I was really curious to see who they're
Speaker 11: going to go with instead.
Speaker 2: Well, what happened with Miami.
Speaker 11: They had sent again this is coming from what I
Speaker 11: had heard from Charlie Weisse. You have to ask him,
Speaker 11: but they had sent him a package and all the
Speaker 11: stuff that supposedly said, we know you haven't been a
Speaker 11: big fan in the past, given that they were division rivals,
Speaker 11: but hope well after the draft the next day, which
Speaker 11: I don't think he was a fan at all, after
Speaker 11: what happened the next day, So yeah, that was that
Speaker 11: led us to believe that I was going to be
Speaker 11: Miami Terry Sha their quarterbacks coach. He had actually been
Speaker 11: with me in Arizona training and preparing for my pro day,
Speaker 11: for the draft and all of that.
Speaker 10: He left to go take the quarterback coach job.
Speaker 11: So I'm thinking, like, okay, like if he has any
Speaker 11: say like he'll he's seen my work ethic, you see me,
Speaker 11: Like he'll be on my side on all this. And
Speaker 11: they decided to go in a different direction. And that
Speaker 11: was you know, in the end, you know, I think
Speaker 11: there were one and fifteen or whatever that season, but
Speaker 11: it was what it was.
Speaker 2: Take that.
Speaker 11: Yeah, you know what, I meant to mention this before
Speaker 11: I come on because it's Super Bowl week, you know,
Speaker 11: I just came from Radio row, and you know how
Speaker 11: this goes. I'm gonna thank Travis Matthews because I'm here
Speaker 11: on behalf of Traps Masters. They've outfitted me Nike Delta
Speaker 11: who brought me here Uber every you never notice that.
Speaker 11: I feel like every interview, they're like it's like a
Speaker 11: they're like a walking NASCAR and everyone's selling something to you.
Speaker 10: Yes, well it's a cause they're like, he save the whales?
Speaker 11: Like, can we make sure that we may draw awareness
Speaker 11: to saving whales?
Speaker 2: How would you? We're talking to Brady Quinn. He's for sale.
Speaker 2: By the way, that's right.
Speaker 11: I've got a couple spots here, patches. I don't want
Speaker 11: to cover the Travis Matthews stuff, but.
Speaker 2: Part of Big Newton Kickoff and a host of two
Speaker 2: Pros and a Cup of Joe, the radio show that
Speaker 2: preceeds hours on Fox Sports Radio. When a quarterback has
Speaker 2: less attempts like Jalen Hurts Justin Herbert, We've seen quarterbacks
Speaker 2: who were you know, paid a lot of money, But
Speaker 2: I don't know how you process that like Justin Herbert
Speaker 2: was able to throw the ball prior to Jim Harball
Speaker 2: getting there and they got into the playoffs. Right, Jalen
Speaker 2: Hurts is in a Super Bowl, Say Quon comes in,
Speaker 2: He's really the focal point of the offense. You know
Speaker 2: in this pass happy league, is it's still a pass
Speaker 2: happy league?
Speaker 11: I think it is, although I think you know, the
Speaker 11: league's always going to go through its ebbs and flows
Speaker 11: and adjusting. And I think one of the things that
Speaker 11: you've seen a lot of defensive coordators do is like
Speaker 11: the in vogue defensive covers, like the shell coverage. You
Speaker 11: hear about this all the time. And reason why is
Speaker 11: because you're essentially playing with a lighter box. You're almost
Speaker 11: enticing or forcing teams to see if they'll run the football.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 11: I mean, we look at the salary cap, we look
Speaker 11: how the roster now the money's allocator are spent, and
Speaker 11: oftentimes it hasn't been on the running back position. And
Speaker 11: it's important because the game has become so much more
Speaker 11: of a passing and don't get me wrong, it is
Speaker 11: and always will be because of the rules, the protections
Speaker 11: quarterbacks are given. Receivers for that matter, too, but I
Speaker 11: think you're seeing a swing at least in the momentum
Speaker 11: of saying like you gotta be more balanced, and in
Speaker 11: part because your best player might be the guy who's
Speaker 11: behind the quarterback in Saquon Barkley, or it could be
Speaker 11: Derrick Henry. In that case, the more had an unbelievable season.
Speaker 11: I think Derrek Henry helped out a little bit too,
Speaker 11: But by and large, I think you're starting to see
Speaker 11: that too many defenses are trying to adjust to this
Speaker 11: game now where there's so many big plays, there's so
Speaker 11: many things that are happening in the passing game that
Speaker 11: they're trying to keep it all in front of them,
Speaker 11: trying to disguise what they're doing pre snap, make it
Speaker 11: muddy for the quarterback. When you drop back, you're saying,
Speaker 11: is that quarters is a quarter quarter half? What variation
Speaker 11: are they doing a lot of times they can do
Speaker 11: a nice little disguise and how they play a match
Speaker 11: zone or even man out of it. So there's so
Speaker 11: many things that happen post snap, it's making it harder
Speaker 11: on the quarterback. And so again it goes back to
Speaker 11: what are you Your ultimate task is trying to win?
Speaker 10: And if that's the case.
Speaker 11: How can you figure out way of getting that quarterback
Speaker 11: to make mistakes turnovers and get him off the field.
Speaker 11: And oftentimes it's a lot of what these defenses are doing.
Speaker 11: So in doing that, now offenses have to realize they've
Speaker 11: got to adjust.
Speaker 10: You got to start working the ball to oftentimes, with
Speaker 10: the best players out.
Speaker 2: There, can Jalen Hurts win in a shootout against Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 11: I mean the last time these two teams played, I
Speaker 11: thought he was arguably the best player in the field.
Speaker 11: You know, that was kind of his coming to age
Speaker 11: moment where we all watched him like wow. I mean,
Speaker 11: he might have been the best player out there, but I.
Speaker 2: Don't know if we believe that that's who he truly is.
Speaker 2: He did have an unbelievable game.
Speaker 11: You have to understand, I've watched this young man all
Speaker 11: his time in Bama, then to Oklahoma, then to the NFL,
Speaker 11: and he's like machine learning man, Like the more reps
Speaker 11: he gets.
Speaker 10: The better he gets, the better he gets.
Speaker 11: I think sometimes we take for granted that they've been
Speaker 11: going through some staff changes too in regards to you know,
Speaker 11: the play caller, and that's a relationship that it takes
Speaker 11: time to iron out that the personality of your play caller,
Speaker 11: the chemistry that you have with that play caller, and
Speaker 11: how they're going to react.
Speaker 10: So when you make a mistake.
Speaker 2: But why say he took he took the straight jacket
Speaker 2: off of me talking about his coach. If if you're
Speaker 2: the best reason, or you know, you play like that,
Speaker 2: we can win, why would the you know, the perception
Speaker 2: be the coach has a straight jacket or Jalen Hurts
Speaker 2: thinks there's a straight jacket on him from his coach.
Speaker 10: Look, he may have said that for a number of reasons.
Speaker 11: It could be like maybe they're protecting him for injury
Speaker 11: related related issues. It could be, you know, they don't
Speaker 11: want to show too many things if they feel like
Speaker 11: they can win with doing less. And obviously that doesn't
Speaker 11: happen to the playoffs very often, but in the regular
Speaker 11: season at times, you'll try to hide some stuff sometimes
Speaker 11: if you can.
Speaker 2: But you know, it's just a weird comment.
Speaker 11: Well, there's been a lot of weird helmets that have
Speaker 11: come out for the Philadelphia Eagles this year. I mean,
Speaker 11: you had guys reading books on the sidelines, yeah, or
Speaker 11: at least looking at a book.
Speaker 10: I don't know how much you can read.
Speaker 11: You don't get a ton of time sometimes in between
Speaker 11: series and talking to your teammates and your coach.
Speaker 10: But at least A. J.
Speaker 11: Brown had had a book that apparently the book sales
Speaker 11: are doing great, they're skyrocketing.
Speaker 2: Say, your quarterback, you know you're watching a movie. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know you're not watching plays, You're not you know,
Speaker 2: you're just watching a movie. But it's a movie that
Speaker 2: really gets you, you know, in the in a moment,
Speaker 2: and I you know, like, uh whatever, uh taken Shaw
Speaker 2: Shank redemn shits.
Speaker 3: He can take his the movie like, yeah, you like it?
Speaker 2: Because yes, yes, Todd give give your Liam Neeson.
Speaker 10: I will hunt you down, I will find you and
Speaker 10: I will period. That was actually kind of scary.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 11: You could be the voice though not like not seeing
Speaker 11: you say.
Speaker 2: But what what would happen if you were watching a
Speaker 2: movie on the sidelines as opposed to reading a book?
Speaker 10: I think we were.
Speaker 11: I mean, first off, it's wild because I've never seen
Speaker 11: a player read a book in sidelines before.
Speaker 10: Again, for a lot of different reasons, I've always.
Speaker 11: Wondered, like, have we got to the point where we
Speaker 11: allow players like listen to music or something to help
Speaker 11: a little bit too. I mean, you see guys doing
Speaker 11: pregame all the time to help them kind of get
Speaker 11: in that mindset. Like maybe that's more of a softer
Speaker 11: way of you're visually not necessarily distracted by a book.
Speaker 2: Or would you have a problem if your teammates reading
Speaker 2: a book on the sidelines.
Speaker 10: I don't. Yeah, I don't think that'd be a good thing.
Speaker 10: I'd probably go talk to him and say, hey, man,
Speaker 10: what's up.
Speaker 11: If it's if it's part of his routine, then you
Speaker 11: got to let some guys do what they do. I
Speaker 11: mean that that's there's a lot of guys who I've
Speaker 11: seen during my time when I played, who had some
Speaker 11: interesting routines and give me the.
Speaker 10: Weirdest.
Speaker 2: You don't have to do a name.
Speaker 11: I yeah, there was there's one player who like he
Speaker 11: used to do this tapping sequence to get his mind right,
Speaker 11: but literally would tap different spots on his head and
Speaker 11: supposing that helped him like lock in. You know, everyone's
Speaker 11: got their different thing. Yeah, there's there's a little bit
Speaker 11: of that, But that then never stroke struck me as odd.
Speaker 11: You know, I understand the anxiousness or the nerves or excitement,
Speaker 11: and then sometimes you get like a bad play toposter
Speaker 11: or something at the Marriott Hotel where you're staying at.
Speaker 10: Shout out to Mary out by the way too for
Speaker 10: are available. We're promoting everyone here this week.
Speaker 2: If didn't win the MVP this year, I can't see
Speaker 2: a year where running back back if you well, you
Speaker 2: have to have a historical season, right Only if he
Speaker 2: broke the record, I.
Speaker 11: Would actually make more of an argument for like, why
Speaker 11: are we anointcing the MVP before the season finale? And
Speaker 11: the only reason I bring that up, and I know
Speaker 11: everyone's gonna make the case, well, you know, hey.
Speaker 10: This has always been a regular season award. I get that.
Speaker 11: But the truth is is we most often times awarded
Speaker 11: to teams who were in the playoff hunt. It's the
Speaker 11: best teams are. Like we looked at Joe Burrow this year.
Speaker 11: Joe Burrow statistically should have been a lot more talked
Speaker 11: about in regards to the MVP race. He had a
Speaker 11: phenomenal season. He was carrying that team. Defensively, they struggled,
Speaker 11: obviously they've moved on from lou and yet it was like, well,
Speaker 11: they're not a playoff team, so we can't give him
Speaker 11: the award.
Speaker 10: It's like, well, all right, what are you doing here?
Speaker 10: I whonn'tway?
Speaker 11: Just wait till the end of the season, see who
Speaker 11: wins the Super Bowl and say like that was the
Speaker 11: best player then Saquon Barkley. If they end up winning
Speaker 11: and on that team.
Speaker 2: Well, how many MVPs do you think would have gone
Speaker 2: to different people if we used that concept?
Speaker 10: I don't know. I'd have to go back and look through.
Speaker 11: I mean, I guess the easier question prior to research
Speaker 11: is how many went to players that did make the playoffs?
Speaker 10: Is there a handful of guys?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 2: Boy? Not in the modern era? And I don't think.
Speaker 2: But I remember when Andre Dawson won the MVP for
Speaker 2: the Cubs. They finished last.
Speaker 10: They baseball did it right.
Speaker 2: They could have finished last without him. So it's not like.
Speaker 11: Wow, there's an element to like how much did he
Speaker 11: help his team? Ex And I get that, Yeah, but
Speaker 11: doesn't that make an argument.
Speaker 10: For the Super Bowl?
Speaker 4: I have two MVPs in NFL history that's not qualify
Speaker 4: for the playoffs. Now, it's a long time ago and
Speaker 4: there were fewer playoff teams. Who wants a shot at
Speaker 4: this really old school before nineteen seventy five running back
Speaker 4: one running back one quarterback?
Speaker 10: You were a fan of both of them, Dan.
Speaker 2: Yes, mark O. J.
Speaker 10: Simpsons, Oh J Simpsons.
Speaker 4: I was going to say nineteen seven, but he broke
Speaker 4: the record that without making the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Okay, wow? And then quarterback.
Speaker 10: Johnny United nineteen sixty seven. Okay, dang.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But back then you had two teams that made
Speaker 2: the play or again made the playoffs and they played
Speaker 2: each other in the Super Bowl. Yeah, yeah, yeah, or
Speaker 2: there'd be like the NFL and the AFL, you know,
Speaker 2: back then.
Speaker 10: But I think you get my point.
Speaker 11: You know, when we're looking at how we're going about qualifying,
Speaker 11: like what is the MVP, it's like And honestly, this
Speaker 11: conversation kind of was drawn up by Cam and talking
Speaker 11: about like would you trade your MVP for a Super Bowl?
Speaker 11: And his response was probably surprising the most. I mean,
Speaker 11: that's his perspective, that's how he feels. But it led
Speaker 11: me to think, well, all right, let's just look again
Speaker 11: how we're determining who the MVP of the league is.
Speaker 10: Should we wait and make it after the season's all?
Speaker 2: So he could have lost that Super Bowl the way
Speaker 2: he played or lost the MVP by the way he
Speaker 2: played in the Super Bowl potentially, Yeah, rich Gannon was
Speaker 2: an MVP and he that was the year they lost
Speaker 2: to right or No, was it Tampa when he was
Speaker 2: m VP Mark when they had Tampa? Yep, so you
Speaker 2: might have lost it there as well. Yeah, how's the
Speaker 2: shoulder by.
Speaker 11: The way, Well, I was gonna say, my attorney will
Speaker 11: be reaching out at some point. I know this is
Speaker 11: a few years better. Are you still tried to say
Speaker 11: there's a statute of limitation? But I don't think so.
Speaker 11: We've got to We've got a workman's copy issue that's
Speaker 11: going on here.
Speaker 2: Did you hurt your shoulder throwing the bowl in your zona?
Speaker 11: I cannot confirm that, And my attorney's told me to
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Speaker 2: So you're soft at least, I mean, isn't that all
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Speaker 11: You know, you gotta put pressure on people, gotta leverage things, right, okay,
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Speaker 2: If you can carry the tragger grill, then I'll get
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Speaker 10: Where is it?
Speaker 2: Well, I have to get it for you.
Speaker 10: Oh, Okay, how's I guess I have one over here?
Speaker 2: We well went out tomorrow? Well, okay, then you that
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Speaker 11: I mean, fritzy, you invite me on a day you
Speaker 11: don't have any grilling going on.
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's kind of weak. I think it's later in
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Speaker 13: Uh.
Speaker 2: The Commanders are keeping their name, which when you're successful, sure,
Speaker 2: why not? No need to change that. And I don't
Speaker 2: know if you moved to a new place in Washington, DC,
Speaker 2: if the NFL would allow you to bring that name back.
Speaker 2: But the owner said they're going to keep the Commanders,
Speaker 2: and I certainly understand.
Speaker 4: Again, Paul, it does feel like one of those things
Speaker 4: where the winning changes the direction of the franchise, where
Speaker 4: you know, you may have considered going back to something different,
Speaker 4: changing the uniforms, but you don't mess. It's almost like
Speaker 4: not messing with a streak. The name's fine because they're winning,
Speaker 4: not necessarily because anyone loves it.
Speaker 2: Rich Eisen just sent a note saying Brady Quinn was
Speaker 2: the last ever draft choice shown on camera during the
Speaker 2: draft and that the commissioner took him out of the
Speaker 2: player's room and put him in the commissioner's green room.
Speaker 2: No camera's there, so Rich sent me it oue yes, Paul.
Speaker 4: I'm sure Rich is right, but I seem to remember
Speaker 4: and I maybe were remembering this wrong. Gino Smith's sitting there.
Speaker 2: Well, no I'm talking about well, no, I don't think
Speaker 2: he's Maybe he's talking about having family members there or
Speaker 2: his girlfriend there with him.
Speaker 4: I've seen to remember Gino Smith like sitting for a
Speaker 4: while and then leaving before Yeah, I don't remember the
Speaker 4: details around it, though.
Speaker 7: It was like, yeah, like he went to the hotel
Speaker 7: across the street or something was like, man, screw you, guys,
Speaker 7: I'll be back tomorrow.
Speaker 2: I know it's pretty tough. Well, remember he was going
Speaker 2: to be the number one pick in the draft for
Speaker 2: a little while, you know, they were projecting him that
Speaker 2: he could be a number one of course. Yes, yes, Marton,
Speaker 2: that's where.
Speaker 3: We get the term set Tizeman. Yeah, because he was
Speaker 3: on fire the first four games of that season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, West Virginia was rolling back. Man, that was a
Speaker 2: good team. Those are good years right there. Dang, what happened?
Speaker 2: What happened? Yeah? That was that was a crew for sure.
Speaker 2: Seth in New Orleans, Hi, Seth, what do you have
Speaker 2: for me this morning? Helloa Hey Seth, Hey, hey Seth,
Speaker 2: thank you my sath. Andrew in Washington, Hi Andrew, what's
Speaker 2: on your mind?
Speaker 13: Good morning, Dan? Then thanks for taking my call. It's
Speaker 13: always hard to get on during Super Bowl week, but
Speaker 13: I enjoy it. Hey just had a comment about the
Speaker 13: new Lay Luca show in LA and also a Super
Speaker 13: Bowl stat of the Day. I just think, like you
Speaker 13: said at the top of the show, if Lebron has
Speaker 13: even a twenty percent positive impact on Luca's overall professionalism,
Speaker 13: that's a plus for the Lakers. I mean, he's already
Speaker 13: top five players in the NBA. If he rises his
Speaker 13: game or off the court, you know, workouts and overall lifestyle.
Speaker 6: That's just going to help the Lakers.
Speaker 13: This is awesome as a Lakers fan. We're set up
Speaker 13: for the next ten.
Speaker 6: Or fifteen years.
Speaker 13: Who knows how long Luca can play. Also, on that note,
Speaker 13: the GM of the MAVs, I think I've read this
Speaker 13: a couple of times online. He is the guy that
Speaker 13: bought the Nike pitch to Steph Curry by calling him
Speaker 13: Seth and showing that Kevin Rant video. Nico Harrison, I
Speaker 13: think was working for Nike and did that. So he's
Speaker 13: kind of had a few batches in his past. But
Speaker 13: my Super Bowl stat of the day is this is
Speaker 13: that Jalen Hurts breaks a streak of nineteen straight qbs
Speaker 13: to start their first Super Bowl and lose and never
Speaker 13: make it back. That goes all the way back to
Speaker 13: nineteen ninety four and Stan Humphreys, So Damen Hurt's getting
Speaker 13: back breaks that streak.
Speaker 10: All right.
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Speaker 3: I do enjoy my Super Bowl losing quarterbacks Neil O'donnald's,
Speaker 3: Stan Humphries, Chris Chandler. Yeah, guys who started like huh
Speaker 3: he started for a Super Bowl team.
Speaker 10: That's amazing.
Speaker 2: I remember when we talked Steph Curry about the presentation
Speaker 2: at Nike, and it bothered him that they didn't know
Speaker 2: his name, and you know, you make a big rollout
Speaker 2: presentation and you're like, man, they really loved me, and
Speaker 2: then they call you by the wrong name, Seth. Well
Speaker 2: maybe they thought maybe did he bring his brother with him? Yes?
Speaker 7: I did love the I'm such a massive fan of
Speaker 7: the show and by the Way, Sentin, you're my favorite.
Speaker 2: That's my name is not Sentin. Hey, I really love
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Speaker 2: did he? Final hour on the Way? Huge fan, Huge
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