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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Savor Prediction of iHeartRadio. I'm Annie

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Speaker 1: Ream and I'm.

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Speaker 2: Lauren bubble Bum and today we have an episode for

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Speaker 2: you about Tai Yuki.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and it's going to be fun with pronunciation or

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Speaker 1: at least.

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Speaker 2: And y'all get to hear my slightly hilarious Japanese accents.

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Speaker 1: So here we go. Yep, it's going to be fun. Yeah. Yes.

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Speaker 1: Was there any reason this was on your mind? Lauren?

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Speaker 2: Ah, it had been on my list for a while.

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Speaker 2: I think, you know, maybe I just had one and

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Speaker 2: I was like, why don't we do that as an episode.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea why I originally added it to

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Speaker 2: our list. Maybe I was avoiding doing a red bean

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Speaker 2: paste or a zookie bean episode in general. Anyway, they're delightful.

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Speaker 2: Here we are.

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Speaker 1: They are delightful, and yes, here we are. I did

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Speaker 1: encounter some recently at a festival, and my friends all

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Speaker 1: got some. I definitely have had them in the past,

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Speaker 1: but it's been a minute. I did not partake in

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Speaker 1: this thing.

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Speaker 2: You're not usually a sweet human, so yeah, yeah, And it.

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Speaker 1: Was a fest. It was like a food festival, so

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Speaker 1: I had to pick and choose my battles, but I

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Speaker 1: did have them and they are delightful. I do love

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Speaker 1: red bean paste, oh yeah, meaning of red bean paste.

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Speaker 1: And they're just kind of fun.

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Speaker 2: They are, I know, right. Yeah. A shout out to

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Speaker 2: friend of the show Brandy, who recently gave me a

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Speaker 2: little like wafer and chocolate taiyaki for my birthday.

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Speaker 1: So it was really nice.

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Speaker 3: I was just like, oh, this is this is so nice,

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Speaker 3: just cute, just cute and nice. Yeah yeah, nice little

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Speaker 3: bite and it's it feels very it feels very fustive.

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Speaker 2: It does it does? You can see, perhaps weirdly, our

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Speaker 2: Pizel episode for more on like this type of treat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you never know how things will connect in the

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Speaker 1: food Savor universe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're talking about like waffle iron desserts, then

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Speaker 2: here we are.

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Speaker 1: Here we are. But I guess that does really to

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Speaker 1: our question. Taiyaki what is it?

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Speaker 2: Well, taiyaki are fish shaped pastries that are made with

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Speaker 2: a light, slightly sweet wheat flower batter encasing some kind

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Speaker 2: shape is specifically this kind of cartoony version of a

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Speaker 2: red sea breeze, which are these flat but tall fish

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Speaker 2: taiyaki do not contain any fish or fish flavoring, it's

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Speaker 2: just the shape. They are cooked quickly until golden brown

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Speaker 2: as a snack or dessert, often on the go from

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Speaker 2: street venders and especially at festivals. There are also iterations

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Speaker 2: like frozen treats made out of like a thin wafer

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Speaker 2: are the main points here. In those traditional fresh ones,

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Speaker 2: not too sweet, and they're so cute. They're just they

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Speaker 2: are a fish shaped waffle with a sweet filling. Like

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Speaker 2: eating taiyaki is a direct portal to feeling the uncomplicated

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Speaker 2: just pure childlike whimsy.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I agree on they're just fun.

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Speaker 2: They are, right, Okay, So why a fish shaped treat?

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Speaker 2: Well in Japan, where taiyaki are from. The red sea

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Speaker 2: idioms about luck. The red seabream is sometimes called tai

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Speaker 2: the word metatai, which means auspicious or joyous puns. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the word taiyaki comes from the fish tie plus yaki,

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Speaker 2: like on a grill or in a pan, and taiyaki

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Speaker 2: So like you heat the mold, you pour in the batter,

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Speaker 2: And it can range from like super thin to fairly

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Speaker 2: traditional filling is a zuki bean paste, also called uncle

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Speaker 2: if peanut, butter and jelly were a single product, like

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Speaker 2: slightly savory, kind of toothsome soft and nicely sweet, and

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Speaker 2: Other fillings like flavored custards or chocolate are also common,

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Speaker 2: but people do all kinds of things with the concept.

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Speaker 2: You can use like a flaky croissant dough instead of

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Speaker 2: taiyaki molds. Why wouldn't there be. They can come in

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Speaker 2: other shapes as well, like Sega recently did Demon Slayer

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Speaker 2: anime taiyaki that were shaped like the character's faces. There

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Speaker 2: are molds made that are basically for making like taiyaki

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Speaker 2: don't know. I've seen fusion takes like tayaki filled with

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Speaker 2: macha soft serve in American Japanese restaurants. They're often served

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Speaker 2: You can put savory batter and ingredients in there, like

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Speaker 2: basically make like a tai shaped okamiyaki, or maybe a

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Speaker 2: taiyaki filled with sausage or curry or ham and cheese.

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Speaker 2: There are street vendors serving tayaki everywhere from like Rhode

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Speaker 1: So yes, there are so many iterations. Look it up.

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Speaker 2: Recommend, And I do want to specify here that I

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Speaker 2: like a playful debate about how to eat taiyaki headfirst

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Speaker 2: Apparently if you go headfirst, you you're like a very

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Speaker 2: But maybe you just like the crunchy of the tail better.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know, man, you do you anyway?

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Speaker 1: See I thought about this because I saw this too,

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Speaker 1: and I feel like I'd be worried about the filling

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's how I feel, because the filling tends to

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Speaker 1: Well, listeners, please let us know. I love these kinds

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Speaker 1: of things. Well, what about the nutrition.

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Speaker 2: Treats are nice.

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Speaker 1: Treats are nice. Treats are nice, and people love them.

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Speaker 1: They do. We do have some numbers for you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this one was difficult to find numbers four because

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Speaker 2: taiyaki are largely made and sold by individual vendors. But

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Speaker 2: I did find a report on the larger industry of

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Speaker 2: both traditional and electric taiyaki irons, and as of twenty

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: And I did read that in traditional shops the bean

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Speaker 1: Wow. I did find a lot of videos about people

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Speaker 1: going to visit shops where taiyaki are made, and I

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Speaker 1: was looking for pronunciations. I enjoyed the watching of them

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Speaker 1: all right, Well, we've got a very interesting history for you.

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Speaker 2: I have to say, oh yeah, yeah, and we are

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Speaker 1: Okay. So researchers think that tayaki originated in Japan during

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Speaker 1: an evolution of pastries that came before it. Anytime we

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Speaker 1: specific story about how this pastry was invented. It credits

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Speaker 1: a tokyo shop called Naniwaya Sohonten. The owner said Jiro

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Speaker 1: use up any unsold imagawayaki, which is another similar pastry

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Speaker 1: traditionally filled with sweet azuki bean paste, and he got

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Speaker 1: which symbolized good luck in Japan and is associated with celebration,

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Speaker 1: to make a novel, festive pastry product that quickly became popular.

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Speaker 1: It was fun, it was an accessible way for people

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Speaker 1: to celebrate. However, there really isn't anything concrete backing this up.

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Speaker 1: That it was at this shop by this guy. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and some specifically cite a nineteen oh nine recipe from

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Speaker 1: this shop as the first known recipe for tayaki.

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Speaker 2: The story also goes that that Kobe was looking like

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Speaker 1: And kind of expounding on that. There's another story, and

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Speaker 1: we can only do so many pastries in one episode. Everyone.

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Speaker 1: Historians think that imaga wayaki was invented in seventeen hundreds

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Speaker 1: and it was pretty popular. They were coin shaped pancakes

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Speaker 1: without the grid pattern, usually filled with sweet azuki bean paste,

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Speaker 1: I actually am really interested to come back and talk

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Speaker 1: about them, because I was. I got fascinated by all

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Speaker 1: Is that too much to add?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you possess one of these irons, if you

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Speaker 1: Please let us know. But I think that's what we

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Speaker 1: Now mom off of its head. I just feel like

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Speaker 1: Ruth has once again really blessed us with an amazing song.

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Speaker 1: Ruth was the one behind the Pumpkin smash. Oh yeah, yes,

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Speaker 1: about canon Bear to the Bear Necessities that I shall

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Speaker 2: Melissa wrote, I've been meaning to write in for a

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Speaker 2: while about strong tea opinions. I spent a year abroad

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Speaker 2: other countries having better Dorito's flavors, at least when I

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Speaker 2: certainly not. No, And I'm jealous because it just sounds

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Speaker 2: like good ramen powder, but you just have it on chips,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, yes, I want that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, and I do. I do kind of love

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Speaker 1: that the the way you're framing it, as it feels

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Speaker 1: like a full mill almost by the way, they're like, yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of Wonka related, it's like Wonka adjacent.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, ye. Yes, we have talked about ketchup doritos or

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Speaker 1: ketchup chips, ketchup chips. Yeah, in Canada. Before I believe

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Speaker 1: you've tried some on next stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds right. Sure, I think someone someone brought

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Speaker 2: them into the office back when we all went into

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Speaker 2: the office more often. I think I ate a great

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Speaker 2: deal of those. Yeah, mm hmm, I can see, I

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Speaker 2: can see not being into it. Oh sure, especially on Durito's.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, for some reason, it makes sense to me

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Speaker 2: on potato chips, but on douritos I'm kind of like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I agree. However, thank you for the Montreal restaurant recommendation.

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Speaker 2: And I love I love strong opinions about tea so much.

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Speaker 2: I love that that this anarchist was offended, offended by

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Speaker 2: here use of milk and earl Gray, how dare you?

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Speaker 2: What are you doing, Epoxy American get out of here?

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