1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm Strong 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: and Jetty enough he Armstrong and Yetty. 4 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 2: Well. 5 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 3: I thought that people were jumping a little bit out 6 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 3: of line. 7 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 4: They were getting yippie, you know, they were getting a 8 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 4: little bit yippy, a little bit afraid, unlike these champions, 9 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 4: because we have a big job to do. 10 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: No other president would have done what I did. No 11 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: other president I know the presidents, they wouldn't have done it, 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: and it had to be done. 13 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 5: I think we have a really big problem, which was 14 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 5: we have two strong guys, neither of which wants to 15 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 5: back down. And I was in China a couple of 16 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,599 Speaker 5: weeks ago, and the Chinese have been preparing for this 17 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 5: for years. They may not have expected quite the scale 18 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 5: and speed with which this has become a full on 19 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 5: trade war with one hundred and twenty five percent times, 20 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 5: but they are ready for this, and they are in 21 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 5: no mood right now to back down and both so 22 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 5: practically it's very very difficult Fijijinping to lose face. That's 23 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 5: it's he cannot lose face. So for the moment, I 24 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 5: think quite how they unwind this becomes hard. 25 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 4: That is really interesting. I you know, I hadn't even 26 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 4: thought of the Chinese perspective, So they knew at some 27 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 4: point America was going to have to do this. 28 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course and over again. Of course they do. 29 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 4: It's so common to, you know, only think about your 30 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 4: side of the equation and not the fact that China knows. 31 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 4: Of course we're going to decouple from the United States. 32 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 4: We have They're going to have to decouple from us. 33 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 4: It's part of our whole taking over the world, and 34 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 4: you know we have a plan for that. Of course 35 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 4: they do. It's not like I'm surprised to them. So 36 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 4: the the US is fat. 37 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: And lazy, but we're not stupid, and just just very quickly. 38 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: The reason I paired those two pieces of audio together 39 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: was to point out that you have the rest of 40 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: the world world. We got our ninety day pause, they're 41 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: going to be negotiations. Everybody breathes a sigh relief, the 42 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: market skyrocket temporarily, and then you've got China, and we're 43 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: going to talk about China this segment. 44 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 4: So China's eighty four percent tariff on US goes intoffect 45 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 4: today as Trump's one hundred and twenty five percent tariff 46 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 4: goes on effect in effect on them. But as that 47 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 4: person just said, they knew this was coming someday. It's 48 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 4: not a shock to them. It's interesting. 49 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: So you have multiple layers of gristle in this one 50 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: as we try to chew it. Unnecessary, really, and I 51 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 1: think ye for them, But I would rather be the 52 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: United States than China ultimately in a whole bunch of 53 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,119 Speaker 1: different ways. But you know, just on the face of 54 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: a lot of this, China's got to be thinking, yeah, 55 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 1: I'm sure glad we don't make all all of our 56 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: drugs in the United States, or all of our electronics, 57 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: or all of our a whole bunch of different things 58 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: in the country we're about to be at war with, right, So, 59 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: like I was saying, you have multiple layers going on here. 60 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: First of all, the ridiculous and idiotic trade imbalance between 61 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 1: the countries based on protectionism and flooding the market with 62 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: cheap Chinese goods and that sort of thing, the whole 63 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: misguided relationship with China. If we let them liberalize economically, 64 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: they'll become our buddies. Yeah, no, they never intended to. 65 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: We all know that stuff. Then you got two really 66 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: tough guys, Chesi and Ping, who rules with an iron fist. 67 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 1: And if you're an iron fisted ruler, rule number one 68 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: is don't back down ever unless you can claim it 69 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: was your idea and it was a victory. And Trump 70 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: is making it very difficult for Xijian Ping to back down. 71 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's a bad thing. It just it is. 72 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: And Trump, on the other hand, having frankly back down 73 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: on the rest of the world tariff stuff, or at 74 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: least changed his sales. I think it ends up in 75 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: a pretty good place. But he definitely had to change 76 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: because everybody was getting yippie. We talked an hour two 77 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: was it or our one about the bond market? I 78 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: guess it was our one. How everybody who buys US 79 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: bonds and invests in the US started to send signals 80 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: via the bond market that maybe the US isn't such 81 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: a great place anymore, and it got everybody's attention in 82 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: a way that's a little difficult to explain. Maybe we'll 83 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: reset it later in the show. But anyway, so Trump 84 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 1: absolutely adjusted his sales, and so he really needs to 85 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: look tough against China. I mean there are great underlying 86 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: reasons to look tough on China anyway and be tough 87 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: on China, But for his own self image and his 88 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,559 Speaker 1: image politically, he doesn't want to back down to Winnie 89 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: the Pooh. So this one will not unravel quickly or easily. 90 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: I don't think. No. 91 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 4: So all of this stuff that we were talking about 92 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 4: yesterday is still a fact. The shelves in Walmart full 93 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 4: of Chinese products, Amazon just full of Chinese products. 94 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: And how long does this last? And soon do we 95 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: notice it? 96 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 4: Remember what inflation was like and you go to the 97 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 4: grocery store, whatever you do, and you'd be shocked every 98 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,679 Speaker 4: time you got the bill. How soon do we notice 99 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 4: that sort of thing? I wonder in weeks? And then 100 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 4: how does the working class America, which is the base 101 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,239 Speaker 4: of the MAGA movement react to that is the reaction. 102 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 4: I knew it was going to cost more, but it's 103 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 4: it's good for the long term. Or does Trump's pull 104 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 4: numbers go in the toilet immediately? 105 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, anybody who's gotten a little older in life 106 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: understands that sometimes the things you have to do are painful, comfortable. Yeah, 107 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: most of the things you have to do are painful. Yeah. Yeah, 108 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: And here's here's the reality. Because the long term prospect 109 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: of like going back to manufacturing our own underpants and 110 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: T shirts in this country, it's conceivable, but it would 111 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: make them much more expensive than it would take a 112 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: while to gear up and do that. It's funny to 113 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: use the term underpants as opposed to what underwear underwear. Yeah, 114 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: just underpants. It seems so old timey. That's part of 115 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: my charm anyway. So the prices on a lot of 116 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: things that people do tend to buy fairly frequently are 117 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 1: going to go up, at least in the short term. 118 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: And one of the reasons that's going to be painful 119 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: is a according to every economic survey I've seen, people 120 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,239 Speaker 1: are already kind of at the end of their rope 121 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: financially because of the past inflation. That's interesting, so orrowing 122 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: credit card balances, the rest of it. I was about 123 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 1: to say, as soon as people catch wind to this, 124 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: and some people already have, you're going to buy your 125 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: underpants or your cheap electronics or whatever. Now, which is 126 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: what bloomers your braziers? 127 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 4: Yes, which here, of course it's which is what drives inflation, 128 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 4: is the fear of inflation. I mean, it helps drive it, 129 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 4: so everybody's going out buying it and then it just 130 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 4: keeps going and going. But maybe that won't happen if 131 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 4: everybody's maxed out their credit cards. You're just thinking, you 132 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 4: know what, I'm gonna have to wear holy underpants exactly. 133 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. And the other aspect of it, 134 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: that's interesting. And again this is absolutely not an argument 135 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: against doing it or an argument about the way Trump's 136 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: doing it, because we all knew something like this had 137 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: to come. As Jack was just describing China. Knew is 138 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: that there are so many Americans who are employed in retail, 139 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: in trucking, in you know, the various handling of the 140 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: goods that come from China, or build stuff with parts 141 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: that come from China. It's gonna hurt sectors of the 142 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: American economy where they're working. People work, So that's going 143 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: to be kind of difficult to work through. Not kind 144 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: of it's going to be difficult to work through, depending 145 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: on how this goes, of course, but man, it is 146 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: so layered and one sector and one you know aspect 147 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: of this is interwoven with the other ones in a 148 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: way that I mean, it would take forever to describe it, 149 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: even if I had the knowledge to nobody can. That's 150 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: the point of a free market. It does itself, you 151 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: don't need to guide it. But well, so, what were 152 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: you ben get ripped off for a long time? What 153 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: were the tariffs on China a week ago? Below fifties? 154 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: So it's like, yeah, it's gonna. 155 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 4: Be about two and a half times the tariff on 156 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 4: all Chinese goods coming into this country. 157 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna notice that hard and fast, for 158 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: better or worse. So with the new US tariffs making 159 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: the American market all but closed to Chinese products, even 160 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: this is from the Wall Street Journal, even more Chinese 161 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: goods will be rerouted to countries in Europe and Asia, 162 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: where leaders are already concerned about a flood of Chinese 163 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 1: products that have jeopardized jobs, which leads me to clicking 164 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 1: over to this piece, also in the Journal, the rest 165 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: of the world is bracing for a flood of cheap 166 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: Chinese goods. Wow, so China sold a hell of a 167 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: lot of stuff to us. Sure, and it's funny. This 168 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: was written a couple of days ago when it was 169 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: tariffs for around seventy percent A lot of it crappy, 170 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: but a lot of it not Nikes aren't crappy. No, 171 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: and a lot of it was good enough. We've talked 172 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: for years about this experiment going on. If we gave 173 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: you something that was a third less good but costs 174 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: forty percent less, would you buy it, knowing you have 175 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: to replace it sooner? And Americans have answered yes, absolutely, 176 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 1: over and over again on cheap Chinese junk. 177 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 4: I was watching a guy at a shoe store sells 178 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 4: gymnasium shoes, and he said, this pair of and I 179 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 4: don't remember what he was holding up. It wasn't Nike's. 180 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 4: It was one of the other brands. And I don't 181 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 4: know which ones are made Ware, but AAIs or Adidas 182 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 4: or whatever they were, and he said, these are I'm 183 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 4: already have already marked him up from one eighty to 184 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 4: two hundred, and I might have to go up higher 185 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 4: already and prepare for now. You know, the media's going 186 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 4: out of their way to find people that are doing that, 187 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 4: to present this as scary and as bad for Trump 188 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 4: as you can. But I wonder what that will be. 189 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 4: What will appair of Nike shoes cost next week or 190 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 4: next month, and when people still want to buy them. 191 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 4: Of course, the idea is that you don't, right, isn't 192 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 4: that the whole point of what Trump wants to do. 193 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 4: As you won't buy the Nike shoes at that price, 194 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,599 Speaker 4: You'll buy some shoes that were made somewhere else or 195 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 4: in the United States, and Nike will be forced to 196 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 4: move their factory. 197 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, ultimately indom the United States if you believe the 198 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: first argument that this is permanent, or you know, somebody 199 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: other than China, if you believe what I believe. This 200 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: is all mostly posturing to get better trade deals. But 201 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 1: so the rest of the world is not going to 202 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: love this either. Now. I don't particularly give a crap 203 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: how shoe stores in London are doing. But the towering 204 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: tariff wall also risks diverting some US bound Chinese exports 205 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: into a global market already swimming in China made goods, 206 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 1: orsening what is called a China shock that was already 207 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: facing pushback from countries around the world according to other 208 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: According to economists, other major exporters like Vietnam, South Korea, 209 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: Japan could also see barriers grow as US spending on 210 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: import falls in general. But so China's got to sell 211 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: their cheap craps somewhere, and so they're going to cause 212 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: just enormous economic shocks wherever they find they can dump 213 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: their goods. 214 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 4: Is there going to be a black market? Are people 215 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 4: going to be driving into Canada to buy Nikes? 216 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: I have no idea. That's an interesting question, But I'm 217 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: thinking more geopolitically, Jack, and I wonder whether more and 218 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 1: more countries and more and more peoples wake up to 219 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: the fact that if you're in bed with China, it's 220 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: for China's benefit. Don't believe don't trust China? Right China? 221 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: What do we have to tip you to play these 222 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: sounds now? Or what? And why am I yelling at MICHAELA. 223 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: I know it's the stress Jack from the tariffs, But anyway, 224 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: will this alert more and more countries around the world? Okay, 225 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: Trump's a little mercurial, but is just predatory. 226 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 4: I don't know if you're smart to know where this 227 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 4: is going or have an idea. Textas four one, five, 228 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 4: two nine five KFTC. 229 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 3: Shot the stunning volume of explicit images investigators say they've 230 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 3: seed from former University of Michigan coach Matt Weiss, the 231 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 3: Justice Department, emailing thousands of victims telling them. Wis gained 232 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 3: unauthorized access to their email, social media, and cloud storage 233 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 3: accounts and stole thousands of intimate photographs and videos. The 234 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 3: indictment says Weiss hacked into a third party vendor that 235 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 3: maintains student databases for more than one hundred colleges and 236 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 3: universities across the country, and even crack the encryption protecting 237 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 3: the passwords simply by doing research online. 238 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 4: What a weirdo so dedicated to the kink of being 239 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 4: able to see, like really not that sexy pictures of people, 240 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 4: but because you know them or you have the power 241 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 4: to see stuff you're not supposed to see. I guess 242 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 4: exactly that's the payoff for you. Because there's plenty of 243 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 4: pictures of naked women online. You can see anything you want, 244 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 4: doing anything you want if you want that. But the 245 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 4: fact that this girl is at your college, even though 246 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 4: it's like a blurry picture from across across the locker 247 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 4: room or something, it's. 248 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: Bad then it might be, but extremely explicit, it's that, 249 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: and it's one hundred different universities whatever. It's just it 250 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: was somebody who did not want to share that with me, 251 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 1: and I get to see it. Yeah, that's weird. And 252 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: you're that dedicated and that knowledgeable and skillful right in 253 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: the arts of computer hackery, and that's your goal. Yeah, 254 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: no kidding. 255 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 4: If you've got that kind of hacking ability and you're 256 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 4: willing to commit crimes, there's a lot of really lucrative 257 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 4: things you could do. 258 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, do something respectable like him doting people's bank accounts. 259 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: All right, yes, Katie. 260 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 2: Well, and that was one of the big things that 261 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 2: they came out with yesterday was the fact that he 262 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 2: didn't have big computer skills. He figured all of this 263 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: out just by doing simple searches online. 264 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: He figured out how to do it. Really, that's tabling, 265 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: so college encryption services, what are their algorithms there? It is? Okay, 266 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: I'll type that in. That's the Wait a minute, really. 267 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was what they were saying, is that he's 268 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 2: not some computer genius. He was just searching online how 269 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 2: to figure out to get into these files, and he 270 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 2: was able to do it. 271 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: That's the most interesting part of the whole story. I'm 272 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: not sure I've ever been dedicated to anything except perhaps 273 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: being a father, the way this guy was dedicated to 274 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: looking at pictures of unclothed women. Yeah, weird. Lord, They're 275 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: inventing a new kind of crazy every day. 276 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 4: So I was at the DMV for a couple hours yesterday. 277 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 4: I was tweeting about it a lot, got a lot 278 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 4: of responses, some of them I thought were interesting in 279 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 4: a variety of ways, including this one, because I asked, like, 280 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 4: why are there no normal people DMV? 281 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: At least my experience seemed to be life's losers. 282 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 4: My whole life, I've thought that, like this first time 283 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 4: I went to the It's like, there are no normal people here, 284 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 4: like the how many people here. 285 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: Have a job? Folks? I found that screen off putting 286 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: in the elitist. 287 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 4: Honest answer, the DMV is like a real life filter 288 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 4: that squeezes out every ounce of human dignity. It's where 289 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 4: time goes to die and ambition takes a smoke break, 290 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 4: dent and cars dead stairs and crushed dreams. It's basically 291 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 4: the lobby of government efficiency. But hey, maybe that is 292 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 4: the secret. The winners don't wait in line, they get 293 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 4: private plates, personal assistants, or just skip registration like half 294 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 4: of Congress does. 295 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: Like I've heard those stories years after years. They just 296 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: don't register the cars and stuff like that because nothing's 297 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: going to happen to them. I thought that was pretty good. 298 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 4: It's where time goes to die and ambition takes a 299 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 4: smoke break. 300 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: That's some good writing. 301 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 4: Well doneh I moved to North Idaho in twenty three. 302 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 4: If you want to know the difference between California and Idaho, 303 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 4: just go to the DMV. You get right in even 304 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 4: without an appointment. People are genuinely helpful and friendly. It's 305 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 4: a fraction of the cost. It's a delight Yeah, there 306 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 4: are so many. 307 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: Examples of this, because we've gotten emails from folks who 308 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: have like a delightful DMV in their corner of California, 309 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: for instance, whereas Jack's not so much population. Density changes 310 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: human beings. It changes how many rules and regulations and 311 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: laws they want. That's why cities are always blue. They 312 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: want lots and lots of rules, they want democrats in charge. 313 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: Rural areas northern Idaho not so much. And it extends 314 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: how nice people are. 315 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 4: I'm not the only person that's ever thought this about 316 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 4: the crowd at the DMV, like where the normal people. 317 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 4: Seinfeld used to have a whole bit about it way 318 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 4: back in the day. But anyway, somebody tweeted this line 319 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 4: is Seinfeld's once said about the people at the DMV undtable. 320 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 4: Where all these undateable people coming from that are at 321 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 4: the DMV. 322 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. 323 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 4: Again, Like I said, the percentage of crutches and slings 324 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 4: was way out of proportion than the normal population. And 325 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 4: I can't imagine how those two things fit together. 326 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: The key is how did they get those injuries? 327 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 4: I should have gone around asking, excuse me, I see 328 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 4: and her sling, how did you hurt your arm? 329 00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: Excuse me as you're on crutches? What did you do 330 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: to your Wow? So let me squeeze this in just 331 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: real quickly, Jack, You'll enjoy this ten seconds. There's not 332 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: even so okay. After the break an emails so devastating. 333 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,959 Speaker 1: I was about to read it. I've got an hour 334 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: and a half. We got plenty of times Armstrong and 335 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: Getty sandwich change. 336 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 6: Subway is announced it'll be offering reward members free Dorito's 337 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 6: foot long nachos with the purchase of any sub And 338 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 6: you know you're in a good restaurant when the food 339 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 6: is sold by link. 340 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 4: I shouldn't think about that when I'm at Subway and 341 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 4: I'm buying a three foot turo or whatever it is 342 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 4: that we get sometimes pretty Oh, that's plenty of chio. 343 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: That's really good. Breaking news. 344 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 4: The House has passed the blueprint for President Trump's tax 345 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 4: and spending cuts after opposition from hard right Republicans. 346 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 1: I'm reading from the New York Times and he, you know, 347 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 1: hard right goodness for the hard right Republican. 348 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 4: Opposition from hard right Republicans threatened to tank it and 349 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 4: wanted warned that it would add too much to the 350 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:07,959 Speaker 4: nation's debt. Chip Roy and that crowd who are just 351 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 4: saying the math doesn't work. I mean, I'm all for 352 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 4: tax cuts, love it, but where are spending cuts? 353 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: Right? But as usual, spending cuts will not happen. Without them, 354 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: we would be careening toward the cliff even faster. Thank 355 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 1: goodness for Chip Roy. Pray for his health. What happens 356 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: if Chip has a heart attack and goes away. 357 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 4: So this story in the New York Times got my 358 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 4: attention and I read the whole thing, and there's a 359 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 4: lot of interesting stuff in it. The pandemic is not 360 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 4: the only reason US students are losing ground for the 361 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 4: country's lowest scoring students. Things have really gone off a 362 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 4: cliff since twenty thirteen. And they used the bottom quintile, 363 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 4: broke it down into fifths, and actually it looks like 364 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 4: both the bottom quintile and the second to the bottom, 365 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 4: so i'd be two quintiles, which would add up to 366 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 4: forty percent, are both going down quite a bit in 367 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 4: terms of reading and math for eighth graders and fourth graders, 368 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 4: and they're trying to figure out why that is. The 369 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 4: reason is not just the pandemic, although obviously that didn't 370 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 4: help anything, because yeah, but probably a lot of socioeconomic 371 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 4: things that factor in with that lower performing student crowd 372 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 4: that the pandemic really did not help. 373 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: No. Being honest, I have I have a couple of 374 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 1: suggestions of what's behind this, but i'll i'll hold off. 375 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 4: For the least the last decade. Starting around twenty thirteen, 376 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 4: students in the bottom quartile have been losing ground on 377 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 4: the National Assessment Tests. It's made up of students from 378 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 4: various backgrounds, but includes a higher proportion of students with disabilities. 379 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 4: Students learning English. You know, well, if you could be 380 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 4: hard as you want, but if you don't speak the 381 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 4: language the teachers speaking and don't read the language, they're 382 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 4: ending you the. 383 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: Test in. 384 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 4: Dot dot dot nuff said. Uh, and children from poor families. 385 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 4: Whatever happening to the lower performers is still happening, and 386 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 4: we've got to figure this out, said the American Enterprise 387 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 4: Institute of right leaning think tank. Of course, they don't 388 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 4: label think tanks. All the other think tanks is left leaning. 389 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 4: They're just regular think tanks. But anyway, that's it. But 390 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 4: I like this when you brought this up the other day. 391 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 4: Researchers point to a number of educational and societal changes 392 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 4: over the past decade, including well, retrenchment and school accountability. 393 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: How do you take that? What? What? What's retrenchment and 394 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: school accountability. They're saying that schools are less accountable for 395 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: their results. Well, all right, I can't stand it anymore. 396 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw mine out there, and then you can 397 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: go back to your your analysis from the old Gray Lady. 398 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: Number one, rampant immigration. Obviously we've covered that. Secondly, the teachers' 399 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: unions who have demanded less accountability and who have joined 400 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: hand in glove with the progressive er education establishment in 401 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: introducing the woke crap not only the genderbred person in 402 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: the rainbow boy or whatever the hell else, teaching the 403 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:32,239 Speaker 1: kids about radical gender theory, but also undermining all of 404 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: the values that tend to make you a good student. 405 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 1: How many times have you heard showing up on time 406 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: and trying hard is white supremacy? Handing in assignments on time, 407 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: or thinking logically, is that's racism? That's white supremacy. You 408 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: send that message year after year after year after year 409 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: to kids, you gotta get better students or worse ones, ladies. 410 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 4: And I don't know, I don't know if these numbers 411 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 4: are big enough to make a difference. But we all 412 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 4: know the number of kids that are homeschooled or been 413 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:06,719 Speaker 4: moved to private schools has exploded. Oh true, and so 414 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 4: most of those kids were probably above average performing and 415 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 4: sort of just. 416 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 1: Live in families that value education. 417 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 4: So just statistically, if you took those kids out of 418 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 4: the public school, that's going to give you a bigger 419 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 4: chunk of lower performing as a percentage, right, I mean, 420 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 4: it's just right. 421 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: That's just that's its. 422 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 4: Math, even if you are if nothing has changed, just 423 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 4: moving all those kids out of the school the public 424 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 4: school system. But I thought this was good because you 425 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 4: brought this up the other day, worsening cognitive abilities because 426 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 4: of smartphones, which has happened even among adults. And it 427 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 4: links to the story you talked about the other day 428 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 4: on how we may have reached peak brain power a 429 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 4: few years back, that our cognitive abilities are just getting worse, 430 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 4: dispit and that they think that that's a chunk of 431 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 4: it for kids also, which I don't doubt. 432 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: And I thought about that. Well. 433 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 4: I don't say where I was, but I was someplace 434 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 4: where I was watching kids just glue to their smartphones 435 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,719 Speaker 4: and iPads in a situation where you could have been 436 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 4: interacting with you could have been doing something else, but 437 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 4: the parents were busy doing their own thing. Certain socioeconomic crowd, 438 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 4: their kids are going to spend way more time staring 439 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 4: in an iPad or iPhone or a phone than than 440 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 4: other kids are. And so you're gonna have worsening cognitive abilities. 441 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 4: More I look at my phone, the worse my brain works. 442 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: That's just a fact, right. Yeah. I don't know what 443 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: you can do about that. Is there more to this analysis, 444 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: Candy doesn't need to be that's up to you. This 445 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 1: was going to say, in spite of my public school 446 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: analysis or education, rather, I'm able to read. So I 447 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: would like to read this email from Ray that we received. 448 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 1: You guys need to quit pretending to be a conservative 449 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: show because you're not. You're probably paid by George Soros 450 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 1: or the Chinese. I will not listen to your show again. Actually, 451 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 1: we're paid by both George Soros and the Chinese. It's 452 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: like a timeshare. Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. We do the 453 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: bidding of George Soros. Tuesdays and Thursdays. The communist Chinese 454 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: have us. Then he says, it's obvious you're trying to 455 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: emulate another very popular radio show, but you're failing. One 456 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: is that I have no idea. I can't imagine. And 457 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 1: do you know what topic this was? Uh no, he 458 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: doesn't say. It's the usual blast of indignance without explanation 459 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 1: or whatever. I don't. I don't know. Ray feel fun Well, 460 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: I could write back to him, I suppose, just out 461 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: of curiosity. But I will get to this chunk an 462 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: odd email descent. 463 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 4: I will get to this chunk from the New York 464 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 4: Times way further down because this is a very long article, 465 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 4: and it's something that a long article is wanted needed. 466 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a bad thing. It's a heartbreaking. It 467 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: might be the most important issue in America. It's heartbreaking 468 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: you got that many kids that you got no shot. 469 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 4: At making a go of it in a world with 470 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 4: AI coming and anyway, the United States since the early 471 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 4: twenty tens has taken in more immigrants. 472 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: Says The New York Times. I've noticed, we noticed, which 473 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: means more students who don't speak English and knows that 474 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: too have entered public schools. 475 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 4: Yep, ding these demographic ships. Could ships could explain some 476 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 4: changes in scores? 477 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: You think so? 478 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 4: I like the way they act like it's not you 479 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 4: never hear anybody left of center even come close to 480 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 4: being honest about the reality of being. 481 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm a fourth grade history teacher. 482 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 4: I walk into class the first day, I got thirty students, 483 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 4: and six of them don't speak. 484 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 1: A word of English. That could explain some of the 485 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: change in your ability to teach? Oh, could it? Thanks? 486 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 1: Fred and Alice? How does that always completely left out 487 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: of any conversation, like what is supposed to happen right 488 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: there in that situation? That is a blanking dishonest That's 489 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: why it's left down. 490 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 4: I think it's because they feel like it'd be hurtful 491 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 4: to point out how difficult that is and it and 492 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 4: and any any remedy you have for that situation. 493 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: And I know what some of them are. I've seen 494 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: them with my own eyes. 495 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 4: Really nice guy, one of the best nicest people I've 496 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 4: ever met in my life. Teacher both my kids had. 497 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 4: But he would stand up there with his his phone 498 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 4: and his Google translation, and he would do everything twice. 499 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 4: Now and if you spoke English, you had to hear 500 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 4: it twice once in another language. You speak the other 501 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 4: language you hear you just slow but slows everything down. 502 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 4: What else is he supposed to do? 503 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 1: You just gave him a classroom with you know, a 504 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: percentage of kids that don't speak English. What are you 505 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: supposed to do? 506 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 4: And then when you have scores going down or whatever 507 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 4: your problems are, you completely ignore that, like it's like 508 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 4: it's a minor point. You throw it in a paragraph later. 509 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 4: We've had more immigration in the United States in the 510 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 4: last ten years. 511 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: Don't know if you noticed people who might not who 512 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: don't speak English, which might have an effect. You know, 513 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: I've said this a million times. I appreciate the poets 514 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 1: and songwriters and soft hearted people of the world. I 515 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: really do. They help make the world go round. But 516 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: I don't want them in charge if you cannot look 517 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: at the situation we're describing non English speaking kids in 518 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: American schools and recognize the difficulty of that, both for 519 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: the kids and the teachers and the schools and the parents, 520 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: and not speak honestly about it because you're afraid somebody's 521 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: feelings might be hurt. I don't want you in charge 522 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: of anything, but you're not an adult. 523 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 4: I don't know what the answer is, but ignoring the 524 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 4: question doesn't work. Somebody should at least raise their hand 525 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 4: for this point of view. And I don't know if 526 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 4: America would go forward or not. How about we say, 527 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 4: if you can't speak English or read English, you can't 528 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 4: go to school here. That's one option. Maybe you think 529 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 4: that's too hard hearted, but that's one option. 530 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: Charge at least talk about it. 531 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 4: At least it's a solution, because just putting them in 532 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 4: the classroom is not a solution for anyone. 533 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: Now, you could also say, okay, I'll go away. The 534 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: other direction. 535 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 4: We need to raise taxes x percent, and it's going 536 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 4: to be a pretty big chunk chunk to come up 537 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 4: with teachers that speak Spanish, Punjabi, you know, whatever it is. 538 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 4: So we can educate all these kids to the level 539 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 4: that we do other kids. 540 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: That's one option. It's probably somewhere in between those two 541 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 1: things that I mentioned, but nobody even discusses it. 542 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 4: I don't understand how more teachers don't just pull their 543 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 4: hair out or quit on day one or have a march. 544 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 4: I guess because they'd feel like they were racists. 545 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: Say what am I supposed to do with this? I 546 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: got called racist by their progressive overlords. Exactly. I got 547 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: six kids who don't speak English, and they don't even 548 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: speak the same language. So it's not even like I 549 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: have to learn one language, it's multiple languages. Yeah, Do 550 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: we have to open international academies in every town where 551 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: they have multi lingual teachers who divide up the kids 552 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: by the tongue they speak. I don't know, but you 553 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: know it's I hate to sound like a guess, victim 554 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: of Stockholm syndromeer a battered spouse or something. But the 555 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: fact that, like The New York Times, is at least admitting, Hey, 556 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: our government schools are miserably ineffective and the kids aren't learning. 557 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: I mean, that's at least slightly encouraging the fact that 558 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: they still aren't they are so delusional or lacking in 559 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: spine or adult character that they can't say Yes. An 560 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: enormous influx of non English speakers is tough on schools. 561 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: I mean, for God's sakes, that's not asking much for 562 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: them to say that. The fact that they can't say 563 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: that yet, I fear for the state of the nation 564 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: if our schools continue to be the source of the infection. 565 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: He I don't know. 566 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 4: I don't know what the right outcome is, but you 567 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 4: could never get to the right outcome if you're not 568 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 4: willing to be honest about what the polls. 569 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: Oh oh, oh, I'm so sorry. Our Chinese overlord's just 570 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: texted we need to take a break that Thursday. The 571 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: Chinese are in charge. Ray, we need to take it right. 572 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 4: And I'm supposed to give George Soros a foot rub 573 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 4: during the commercials stay here. 574 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: Dotcha Chi side puts it up at a forty five 575 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: for doc and chis now sixteen or twenty eight from 576 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: the field. 577 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 4: Well, look at Doncik who got traded out of nowhere 578 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 4: from Dallas where he had made his home and become 579 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 4: a giant part of the community and started a big 580 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 4: charity and just loved it there and was a fan favorite, 581 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 4: beloved by the fans. He loved them, they loved him. 582 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 4: Everything like that got traded in the middle of the night. 583 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 4: No idea, why, no discussion. Wasn't just out of nowhere. Anyway, 584 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 4: playing for the Lakers last night, played back in Dallas, 585 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 4: scored forty five points and then got all teary eyed 586 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 4: and actually quiver lipped. I saw that at one point, 587 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 4: greeting the fans at the end of the game because 588 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 4: he loved it. 589 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: There so much. 590 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 4: You know, that's a problem with professional sports is even 591 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 4: if like one of your players really likes the community 592 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 4: and wants to be there and help you, you know, 593 00:30:58,400 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 4: build schools and all. 594 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: That sort of stuf. Yeah, that's not the way the 595 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: business works. Nope, it's rough. Yeah, pays pretty well, does 596 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: pay pretty well. Anyway. The Lakers are a three seed 597 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: in the playoffs start next week, and that's going to 598 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: be fun to watch. I'm rooting for him to do well. 599 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: The Dallas GM is hated by the Maverick Chans. Yeah, yeah, 600 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: all night long. They wanted a chance for him to 601 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: be fired. That's rough. Wow, does anybody still know why 602 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: he did that? No? I don't want to get two 603 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: sports because we don't do a sports talk show. But 604 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: when that trade was announced, I was playing golf with 605 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: a professional sports writer who is so astounded. He was 606 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: texting all of his friends and nobody had an explanation. 607 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: And I still haven't heard it. It's one of the 608 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: weirdest things in professional sports history. Speaking of sports, not really, 609 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: but of a sports guy, Stephen A. Smith, which might be. 610 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 4: The most famous voice in all of sports right now, 611 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 4: ESPN or whatever, has been for quite a while. He 612 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 4: has really strong opinions. He yells about everything, and he 613 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 4: yells about everything. His wife asks him, Hey, you need 614 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 4: anything from the grocery store. 615 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: He says, we need more yogurt. Is yell's about him. 616 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: He's considering a twenty twenty eight presidential run. 617 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 4: He has been approached by Capitol Hill officials and Electric 618 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 4: leaders who would. 619 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: Like him to run. 620 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 4: He says his lack of political record would be a 621 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 4: campaign advantage, and he exploratory committee is looking into it, 622 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 4: but he'll only run if he believed he had a 623 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 4: legitimate chance to win, and based on our recent politics, 624 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 4: I think he has a legitimate chance to certainly make 625 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 4: some noise. 626 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: I don't know about when I could see Get in 627 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: the nomination. I assume he's gonna run as a Democrat. Yeah, well, 628 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: the Democratic field looks pretty clear to me. Could he 629 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: turn out a whole bunch of people that don't normally vote? Heck, 630 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: yeah he could. Yeah in a prime market guy, and 631 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: you know, fine, go ahead. I assume he's running as 632 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: a Democrat. 633 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 4: Or would he didn't say, but I just yeah, based 634 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 4: on all the opinions he shouts on a regular basis, 635 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 4: he seems like a Democrat. 636 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: But that'll be exciting. There's another non political person getting involved. 637 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: It's funny. I was just listening to a little Gavy 638 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: Knewsome audio off the air from his conversation with Bill 639 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: Maher not long ago when he was on Bill Marshaw 640 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: and Bill hit him with the transgender kids in school 641 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: thing and Gavey's answer was terrible. It was indefensible, And 642 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: we're working on that audio for you. But so yeah, again, run, Gavin, 643 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: please run. I would be more amused than I have 644 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: been since the first time I saw Monty Python's flying circus. 645 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 4: And the New York Times has got a peace out 646 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 4: today about Kamala Harris saying that it's way more likely 647 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 4: that she runs for governor in California than ever runs 648 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 4: for president again, but that one of the things they 649 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 4: point out in the article in the New York Times 650 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 4: is that the Wisconsin Democrats told her to stay away 651 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 4: from Wisconsin leading up to the big judge election last week. 652 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 4: They thought she'd be a bigger they thought she'd be 653 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 4: a bigger negative than a positive as the Democratic presidential 654 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 4: nominey to come to her and try to, you know, 655 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 4: turn people out. 656 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, we played that professor. Was it? 657 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 1: Harvard guy? Just yesterday you said the only reason she 658 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: lost was America didn't want a black woman as president. Yeah, 659 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 1: it was his explanation. I don't want to talk about 660 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: this for a variety of reasons, but the fact that 661 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: she's going to be the next governor of California and 662 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: I think she will is horrifying to me, just horrifying. 663 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 5: It is. 664 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:29,240 Speaker 4: It's the stuff of nightmares. Yeah, yeah, there's no limit. 665 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 4: She'll bey Governor. Adam Schiff will be one of the senators. 666 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: I mean, what is that horrifying? So the guy who 667 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: tried to assassinate Justice Kavanaughs pled guilty might go to 668 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: jail for good. As crazy as a nut? Oh really Yeah, yeah, 669 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: we'll talk about that a little bit next time. I 670 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: didn't realize he was completely nuts. Well, I have some 671 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 1: sympathy for that. He seems to be. He's one brand 672 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 1: of nuts or another. Whether he's quote unquote completely nuts, 673 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: I guess it's in the eye of the beholder. Got 674 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff to squeeze in the next hour. 675 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 1: What you don't get next hour, you gotta work or something. Hey, 676 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,280 Speaker 1: grab it via podcast. You gotta follow us or subscribe 677 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: to Armstrong and Getty on demand wherever you like to 678 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: get your podcasts. 679 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, my technical, scientific assessment of completely nuts, I'd have 680 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,280 Speaker 4: to hold that out until I've talked to the gentleman. 681 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 1: You're completely nuts. I love to form check the box exactly, 682 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty