WEBVTT - I'm a Leggs Man 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:09.800 It's four fifty eight AM at a non denominational church 0:00:09.840 --> 0:00:27.280 service in the Coachella Valley, and you're listening tonight Call. Hello, 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:30.840 and welcome to Night Call, a podcast for your strange 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:34.239 days and lonely nights. My name is Emily Yoshida. I 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:37.440 am in New York, and with me on the other line, 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:41.480 as always, we have Molly Lambert, and across from me, Hello, 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:44.839 I'm Test Lynch, and of course I'm Test Lynch, and 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:47.160 of course I never stopped doing it, and I won't. 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:53.840 I did the intro for today's episode somewhat blindly because 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:57.000 I know that there is a new hot religion that 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:01.680 has taken seed in californ but I don't know all 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:05.039 the details of it other than it involves Kanye West 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:09.839 and that it is headed for Coachella. All cultural phenomena 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:13.600 are eventually, but please tell me everything Molly Sunday Service 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:17.959 is expert Molly Lambert logging on. Except what I learned 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:20.679 from treating about this is that Kanye fans get really 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:22.560 mad if you call it a church. It's an apparently, 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:25.240 They're like, it's not a church. Nobody called it a church. 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:29.759 It's just a gathering. But it's a religious gathering. Well, 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:33.280 but it is not a church service. There's no pastor. 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:37.720 It's just people gathering in an outdoor space in Calabasas 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:42.160 somewhere to listen to a gospel choir and Kanye play 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:48.440 Kanye songs and like classic R and B songs. Okay, okay. 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:51.520 So is Chris Jenner the kind of like puppet Master. 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:54.280 I learned about this because I was like, oh, like 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:57.000 I saw these blind items. Emily also saw them about 0:01:57.040 --> 0:02:00.520 Chris Jenner starting a religion. Then I like into it 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:04.040 turns out christ Jenner did start a church. It's different 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:07.120 than this. No, she started a church, and I believe 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:12.040 twenty fourteen it was twenty fourteen or twenty sixteen that 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:14.560 is called uh. I should have looked it up, but 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:18.840 it's called something very banal and Christian. It's like the 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:25.959 Christian Fellowship Association or something. And it is not yet 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:29.359 confirmed that the Kanye Sunday services have anything to do 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:33.000 with Chris Jenner's own, But how could they not. I 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:34.520 feel like there's a lot of ways that they could not. 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:37.240 Like the Blinded and that I read actually had nothing 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:40.920 to do with Chris Jenner. It was hinting that Kanye 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:45.280 was starting a church that was going to be like ostensibly, 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:48.720 you know, non denominational, just sort of like a gathering, 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:51.360 but the end result was that it was like they 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:54.000 would literally be worshiping him. That's like it would be 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:56.960 a church. It's like, I want to read it. Have 0:02:57.040 --> 0:03:00.920 you've seen the if you watch the video, because Okay, 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:03.400 so they've been like promoting this. It's clearly like all 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:06.200 of a sudden, we're hearing about it because they're information 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:09.840 being seated by Chris Jenner for us to find out. 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:13.400 But they've been posting videos of like here's Northwest like 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:15.640 dancing at church, but they are not at church, but 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:18.240 just like dancing at Sunday services or whatever. And they 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:21.480 didn't say specifically where it was. And then they were like, hey, 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:24.440 it's this thing Sunday Services. We all just hang out 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:28.840 in this rented outdoor space somewhere and we invited all 0:03:28.840 --> 0:03:31.960 these celebrities such as Orlando Bloom and Katy Perry I 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:35.680 believe attended. And you would think that Katy Perry would 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:39.080 stay the hell away find given her background. I know, 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:41.320 and I think a lot of these people would still 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:44.480 be staying away from Kanye given yeah, all the Trump stuff. 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:47.680 For Yeah, if this were like ten years ago and 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:49.640 this were like the direction he went, and people would 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:53.440 be like, oh, interesting a gospel album. Sure, But because 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:56.920 it's now, yeah, it doesn't. Yeah, it doesn't seem like 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:59.280 it's gonna go in a good direction. It's hard for 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:01.720 me to look at these things even at this point, 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:04.560 because I feel like I do not want to, Like, 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:07.320 I just I feel like it's out of respect for Kanye, 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:09.920 I need to look away, which is the thing we've 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:13.040 kind of talked about, okay, for it has this weird 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:16.480 sense of like as like an influencer church, even if 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:19.440 it's a small one. For right now, I cannot help 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:22.440 but think of like, this is such a nerdy comparison. 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:27.120 But it's like Disney no longer taking movies to comic Con, 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:31.760 Like if Hillsong is comic Con, it's like, we'll do 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:34.760 our own thing. We'll have all the best properties and 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:39.360 people at this thing. It definitely seems like inspired directly 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:43.000 by proximity to Hillsong, you know, which also is yeah, yeah, 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:45.440 West Value. Everybody went there. Yeah, all the people have 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:48.800 gone to Hillsong, which you know is a cult yeah, 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:52.880 and is a Christian called that. How's a lot of 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:56.360 the music festival Christianity the sort of like more recent 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:59.640 rebranding of Christianity is like Jesus liked to wander in 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:04.360 the est and sandals, that's what we're all doing at Coachella. Oh, 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:07.680 come on, I don't wear sandals. You don't. It's so hot, 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:11.240 the fool's errands so hot. Then again, I wore I 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:14.159 wore sandals, Jesus ella and stepped on a chopstick and God, 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:22.320 but Jesus, Jesus wouldn't complain. Jesus wouldn't complain. That's true. Stigmata. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:27.920 you christ like. I was extremely christ Like the whole 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:30.520 time at Coachella, and don't let anyone tell you I wasn't. 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:33.919 So this is eventually he's taking the service to like 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:36.520 a an outpost or something, or they're doing like a 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:40.160 they're doing a pop up pop up at Coachella. But 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:43.760 it seems to me like they're recruiting people actively, right, 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:46.600 and whether the goal is to recruit people into an 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:49.760 actual organization or just to sell them merch like, I 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:53.640 guess what's the difference a little bit, but they're definitely 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:57.680 going to sell some merch. Oh, for sure. By all reports, 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:03.640 Kanye is rather hurting financially. That's the last I heard 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:06.760 when I read anything in depth or even just gossipy 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:09.000 about him, was that like all was not well. I mean, 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:11.240 I will say also that like when you see the 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:13.039 footage of this, because like a lot of Kanye fans 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:15.679 again my mentions being like, why are you being so cynical. 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:19.000 It's just people celebrating, you know, God and music, Like, 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:23.600 don't be a hater. Uh, but it's a little sinister looking, 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:26.960 just because it's like everybody's wearing these white outfits. It's 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:30.040 very it's a little culty looking. It looks CULTI exacinitely. 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:33.200 Polyphonic Spree was like not that long ago, but I 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:36.640 guess everybody's too young to remember that. Wait what happened 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:41.160 with the Polyphonic spress cult themed stuff? Oh yeah, the optics. 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:43.599 It doesn't seem like the time for Kanye to go 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:47.279 in the cult themedh yeah, he has to wait a 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:49.240 little a little while. I mean, I think that he 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:53.400 could have done it right after like Ultra Light Beams, 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:56.920 like that performance on SNL. I feel like the world 0:06:57.040 --> 0:07:00.920 was ready for like Kanye to pivot to to being 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:04.360 a pastor Jesus makes sense, but he has that. I mean, 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:06.440 other people were like, but that was before all this 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:09.000 other shit happened, right, yeah, but people were like, he 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:10.920 has a lot of the qualities of like a mega 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:16.200 pastor anyway does he? Though he seems very unsure of 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:19.280 himself at times, which seems to be not what a 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:22.840 like cult leader needs to have. I mean, I was 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:26.440 reminded of because the Pitchfork, you know, they sometimes run 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:28.920 reviews of older albums that they didn't have reviewed, and 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:32.160 so they had done a review of the second Fiona 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:34.680 Apple album, When the Pond, which is like one of 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:37.680 my favorite albums of all time, but I've forgotten that 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:40.200 that was also one of Kanye's favorite albums of all time, 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:43.000 and he said he listened to Fiona Apple because he 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:45.560 wanted to be able to rap as if he was 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:47.840 rapping from the top of a mountain. I believe was 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:52.720 the quote, WHOA So like this triangle between like uh 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:56.280 like being a yeah, yeah, like an evangelical or like 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:59.679 like you know that televangelist quality Fiona Apple and Kanye 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:02.280 West is like an odd one. But I like trying 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:04.960 to put it together, and you're saying something good on 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:07.360 Twitter the other day where you were like, Jesus never 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:10.680 had a midlife crisis, Like that's the whole appeal. All right, 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:14.120 Well that's because of this Mary Magdalene movie that's that's 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:17.280 coming out with Uh with right, you were like you 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:20.280 were like, what in Phoenix is too old to play Jesus. Yeah, 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:22.559 he's like in his mid forties and he's basically giving 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:24.480 the same performance that he gave and you were never 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:28.320 really here as like a PTSD he's suffering, uh like 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:31.920 hit man who like like it's it's like that's how 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:36.320 the Jesus is presented. I was hoping for, like sportella Jesus. 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:39.480 Well it's sort of there. It's a very it's a 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:44.880 very slurry Jesus. So yeah, it's it's it's an interesting performance. 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:48.680 Jesus is hot now Jesus is cool? Uh? And that 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:50.400 that that movie also has a lot of like white 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:53.240 gauze and stuff. It's similar, isn't that like what all 0:08:53.240 --> 0:09:02.839 the cool churches are, just like Jesus was hot, Jesus cool. 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Yeah, so I was sort 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:29.720 of surprised to go back and realize that this happened 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:33.520 in two thousand and three. This was like fine, you know, 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:36.360 in front of a live audience. Roy Horn was attacked 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:39.760 by one of the Tigers during a show, which effectively 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:42.040 just shut down the Sigfreedo and Roy Show like they 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:44.520 had been, you know, the biggest show in Vegas for 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:49.400 most of the nineties. And I swore that this happened 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:52.760 when I was younger, because I just remember this giving 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:55.880 me nightmares, like just you know, you're hearing the hearing 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:57.800 it on the news on television, like it's it's one 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:01.079 of the most horrifying things I can imagine being somebody 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:04.400 in the audience watching it happen. Oh yeah, well, he's 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:07.800 like Also, there's like a whole lead up that I'd 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:10.840 kind of forgotten about where they realized that manticor the 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:14.880 tiger is not like doing what he's supposed to do. Yeah. 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:17.520 So there's a lot of like Manticre, are you okay, 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:20.920 Like say hello, Manticorp. Yeah, and so it's like that 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:23.680 awful feeling of being in the audience when something's going 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:26.400 wrong and you don't know, nothing bad happens, but this 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:29.280 is like the worst thing happened. Yeah, imagine if you 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:31.560 saw that. No, that's what I'm saying. It would scar 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:34.880 you forever. And apparently it did scar this guy, Uh, 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:38.840 Chris Lawrence, the trainer, the main handler, and so he 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:40.680 he hadn't talked to the media for some time, but 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:44.560 he's like, you know, he's been diagnosed with PTSD. Understandably, 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:46.240 I mean, he was right there on stage as it 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:48.720 was happening, and he like feels like he bears this 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:51.240 responsibility for how it played out because he had like 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:54.600 agreed to have this tiger be used for the show, 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:56.599 even though they had planned on another one. Like it 0:12:56.960 --> 0:12:59.360 was just like all the stuff that obviously, you know, 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:02.720 nobody could have predicted. But he's been blaming himself forever since. 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:09.120 And also so there's the investigation that happened afterwards, was 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:11.840 it seems shady as hell. They would not take Chris 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:14.640 Lawrence's statement, so he said he felt as though he 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:17.080 had to kind of clear his conscience. But it's like 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:20.480 the brand, the like Siegfried and Roy brand, kind of 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:25.080 remains of just like, you can't blame the animals. It's 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:27.160 not the animal's fault. And I guess that there was 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:29.360 some people kind of were like, well, maybe Roy was 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:33.080 having a stroke and the tiger wanted to Yeah that's history. Yeah, 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:35.240 that he was having a stroke on stage. But he 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:38.040 did suffer a stroke, but it was after the tiger 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:41.880 had punctured his artery and you know, he has suffered 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:43.600 a loss of blood from his brain, so he did 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:46.560 have a stroke. But yeah, it feels like the whole 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:49.400 thing was just to you know, even if they weren't 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:51.840 going to have a show anymore, if they were going 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:54.199 to merchandise in it anyway, and they you know, they 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:57.200 produced some kids show afterwards about a lion or whatever, 0:13:57.320 --> 0:14:01.040 like the idea that the lions are our friends needed 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:04.840 to stay intact. You know, big cats are our friends 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:08.120 and they won't hurt us, and they've been improperly branded, 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:12.840 which you know, uh, it's a nice Yeah, clearly, well 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:16.000 Roy also, Roy was like I guess, Siegfried was more 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:19.120 the illusionist and Roy was more like the tiger guy. 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:23.240 He always claimed like he had never never even faced 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:25.720 any aggression from any of the animals and he had 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:29.040 like a psychic bond with them. I mean, this was 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:32.360 all like, you know, there was cat dancers in I 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:34.760 think two thousand and seven, right, and then you know 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:37.160 there's the Sigfreed and Roy thing coming out, and then 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:41.040 Grizzly Man. There's like this trifect of Grizzly Man also 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:44.920 seven I think too. Yeah, yeah, but like Werner Herdsog voice, 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:48.960 like you cannot you cannot tame the cats, cont tame nature, 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:51.640 you cannot tame the cat. Cat dancers in the Sigfreed 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:54.440 and Noy story have this sort of like sheen of 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:57.440 Vegas showmanship on top of it, which is like the 0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:01.840 show must go on because we're in the ca dancing business. Well, 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:05.360 also cat dancers was like the most interesting love trying, 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:08.760 oh my god, ever and that came out that was 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:11.440 like packaged with crazy love I remember, which was the 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:15.280 love story the scare quotes love story of a couple 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:18.440 where the man had blinded the woman by throwing poison 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:21.600 in her face. And those two came out at the 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:25.000 same time. And I remember being on HBO. Yes, they 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:29.480 were both on HBO and they were I believe interviewed together. 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:33.160 Whereas cat Dancers. There's the one remaining right member of 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:36.200 the love trying and it's like this guy, the Chris Lawrence, 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:38.240 the trainer for Sick Food and Roy like he's obviously 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:40.360 traumatized and he had worked with these guys for a 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:42.480 few years and worked with these animals for a while. 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:46.480 But like the added like brutality of cat dancers is 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:49.400 that the guy and I'm blanking on his name, Uh, 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:52.520 the guy who's the main storyteller in the Ron Holliday. 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:56.040 Ron Holliday, like he watched not just like people he 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:58.440 had been working with, but like literally the two people 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:02.400 he loved most in the world get you know, torn 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:06.840 apart of it well, so it's also such an unreliable 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:10.680 narrator type of thing because he was I think you 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:15.040 could probably feel some jealousy going on from Ron. And 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:19.960 so when first the tiger attacked the guy who was 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:24.160 like the third person, Chuck, Uh that happened, and then 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:28.560 Joy was like so grieved, and I think that that 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:30.400 kind of like didn't sit well with Ron. And then 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:34.600 you add to that the fact that Joy is death spoilers, 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:38.440 we got we got to spoil spoils. I wilso say 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:40.400 that like this came up. I had not seen cat 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:44.800 Dancers before last week. Oh oh yeah, No, I hadn't 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:47.440 seen it because I was talking about the Siga food 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:51.080 and Roy story. And then huge shout out to both 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:54.000 Price Peterson and Gideon Yago who both pointed me towards 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:56.400 cat Dancers, which I had heard of. I just I 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:59.440 think it came out during my dark ages with cable 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:01.400 where I just didn't have any like it NMHBO or 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:03.880 anything like that. Ended on DVD for some reason, and 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:06.040 I would think for all the right reasons, I made 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:09.240 a lot of people watch it. Yeah, maybe including tests. Yeah, 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:11.800 you definitely told me to watch cat Dancers. And it 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:13.840 took like two seconds into the pitch. I was like, 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:16.720 I will, my name is very doesn't tell you that much. 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:18.959 It feels in a lot of ways like we're just 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:21.880 like litigating the eighties. Finally, is that I was saying, 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:24.480 because there's like Michael Jackson mentioned in this and also 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:27.760 just all the things You're like, everything is so weird 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:31.840 that they're talking about like a magician stage show with 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:35.280 tigers on stage that's for children. Michael Jackson used to 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:38.320 just come and hang out with the animals. Apparently, according 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:41.160 to the Hollywood Reporter article, like and to the point 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:44.840 where the trainers were like annoyed with him, just stay 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:48.800 and linger. It's also like Siegfried and Roy were lovers 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:51.320 and then just work partners, which makes you wonder. I 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:54.120 didn't realize they weren't. I thought that they were still together. No, 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:57.679 they broke up. No, because's still taking care of me, 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:00.240 taking care. But I think they're still like best friend. 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:01.879 I think they talked about it like they were no 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:05.040 longer together romantically, but they were still like life partners. Look, 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:08.600 all I want is the Steven Soderberg sigfreedin Roy movie 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:11.919 like so badly. Yeah, you said you said that, And 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:13.719 then I was like, that is so correct, And then 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:17.119 I pitched that it should be Matt Damon and Ben Affleck. Yes, 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:20.360 with Ben Affleck as Roy Horn. I feel like this 0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:24.040 could really mean the rule of a lifetime. Yeah, I 0:18:24.040 --> 0:18:26.000 think we should make it happen. You guys will start 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:28.800 a seed and spark about it. Yes, Yeah, raise that money, 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:33.240 Steven Soderberg, come on night call. I already told Molly 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:35.040 and Emily this, but I do just want to share 0:18:35.080 --> 0:18:37.560 that I had an encounter with Siegfried and Roy that 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:40.320 like haunts me forever, which is that I was going 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:42.720 to a cousin's wedding in New York and this would 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:46.160 have been like three to four years so it would 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:49.560 have been ninety nine or two thousand, and my whole 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:54.160 family was staying in this hotel and I was having 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:56.959 a guest in my room and I'd lit candles and 0:18:57.080 --> 0:19:00.960 in the lobby there was a giant like pet carrier 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:05.840 and there was a tiger inside, and then Sigfried and 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:08.800 Roy like walked through the lobby and I was like, 0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:11.920 this is the weirdest day ever. And then at the 0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:15.520 end of the same day, I accidentally lit a lampshade 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:18.399 on fire with a votive candle and it was my 0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:21.600 most cinematic day. So thank you Sigfried and Roy. Did 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:25.639 you that the tiger? Yeah, I saw the tiger. It 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:28.760 was a white tiger. And then I fact checked myself 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:31.480 before I came here, because I was like, am I 0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:33.440 sure it was this hotel? Like it seems really weird 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:35.600 that they would allow those in the hotel. And one 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:38.040 of the people who worked at the hotel gave an 0:19:38.080 --> 0:19:40.560 interview and was like, one of the weirdest things I 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:44.080 ever did working at this hotel was to watch the 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:47.000 tigers from Sigfried and Roy's Tigers in the lobby to 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:51.439 make sure nobody approached them. Yeah again, you're just like, okay, 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:53.960 so they just let the tigers be in the lobby 0:19:54.000 --> 0:19:58.159 of a hotel in New York. They were in cages on. 0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:01.760 I have no idea. I mean, I would assume that 0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:04.400 has to be like a publicity thing or something too. 0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:06.400 It's like they have to get them around. I mean 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:08.919 it's weird to think, like, how do you get on 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:11.960 a private plane. I don't know, they're four hundred pounds. Look, 0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:14.800 let's just get to the point. It's not the tiger's fault. 0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:18.399 It's never it's never the animal's fault. But it is like, 0:20:18.560 --> 0:20:21.240 maybe you have to be an insane person to be 0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:23.320 like you have to have a little bit of a 0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:25.840 death wish to work with big cats like that. So 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:28.680 no way. I don't know though, It's like I think 0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:32.679 you can just brainwash yourself into thinking that you're somehow 0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:35.520 a like special person. It is not. Well I do 0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:38.920 that with my small cat, yes, so you know, yeah, 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:42.280 I mean I think everyone does that with animals. We 0:20:42.320 --> 0:20:45.200 should go to Tippy Hudron's big cat preserved. Oh my god, 0:20:46.119 --> 0:20:48.639 I don't think it's Now's not the time. After talking 0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:52.200 about this, I'm just like, let them be like face 0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:54.920 death by like looking it in the eye across the 0:20:55.560 --> 0:20:58.600 void of species. No. And I say this as a 0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:12.320 person with way too many pets. No, not really. This 0:21:12.359 --> 0:21:14.640 week's episode of Night Call is brought to you by 0:21:14.800 --> 0:21:19.000 Cheers Health. This is Emily, and I am an old lady, 0:21:19.320 --> 0:21:22.440 and I have gotten to the point where the amount 0:21:22.440 --> 0:21:24.600 of drinks that used to just kind of roll off 0:21:24.600 --> 0:21:26.520 me and I didn't care about anymore, are actually kind 0:21:26.520 --> 0:21:30.080 of impacting my life. It is a problem, I think 0:21:30.200 --> 0:21:33.239 for anybody who's past the age of twenty five. If 0:21:33.280 --> 0:21:34.800 you drink more than a couple drinks in a night, 0:21:34.800 --> 0:21:36.880 you're not gonna feel one hundred percent the next day. 0:21:37.440 --> 0:21:39.840 This is true. I think it was literally like the 0:21:40.000 --> 0:21:43.879 day I turned twenty five, I noticed that I was like, Okay, 0:21:43.880 --> 0:21:46.479 I can have one glass of wine with dinner and 0:21:46.480 --> 0:21:49.400 be fine. But if I'm I wasn't going crazy or anything. 0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:52.159 Once a year I do go crazy to do drunk history, 0:21:52.280 --> 0:21:55.679 but normally I do not because I want to stay alive. 0:21:56.520 --> 0:21:58.160 But yeah, I noticed I was like, Okay, I can 0:21:58.200 --> 0:22:00.359 have one glass of wine. If I have any more 0:22:00.400 --> 0:22:01.919 than one glass of wine, I wake up, I have 0:22:01.920 --> 0:22:05.080 a headache. I just don't feel great, and especially since 0:22:05.119 --> 0:22:07.359 having kids, because you have to wake up no matter 0:22:07.400 --> 0:22:10.320 what at like six. But it also kind of sucks 0:22:10.359 --> 0:22:14.440 to miss out on celebrating birthdays New Year's. Just being 0:22:14.480 --> 0:22:17.800 able to like relax with a couple drinks and not 0:22:17.920 --> 0:22:21.040