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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Official Jests Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Dangling a stake in front of the lion and you

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Speaker 2: ain't got no cage in between you. He gonna get

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Speaker 2: to that state.

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Speaker 3: So let's go inside the matchup. I motivated Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 3: Is it dangerous? Aaron Rodgers?

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Speaker 1: right here. Are you a fan of the throwbacks?

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Speaker 2: Juh well, Mitchling Nest style absolutely down in nearby.

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Speaker 4: How about Aaron Rodgers and DeVonta Adams throwing it back?

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what's That's an impressive throwback. I am

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Speaker 2: a fan of that one, and I think it showed

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Speaker 2: itself apparently. Yesterday we talked about to the tune almost

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Speaker 2: one hundred and ninety eight yards could have been for

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Speaker 2: three touchdowns, but he did the smart thing by getting

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Speaker 2: down and I'm trying to eat up the clock, understanding

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Speaker 2: that you don't want to or too early because you

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Speaker 2: score score too early. You can put that defense in

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Speaker 2: a tough spot.

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Speaker 4: What do you make of that late game situation pause

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Speaker 4: Davonte said after the game he didn't know what he

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Speaker 4: wanted to do there.

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Speaker 1: He has that great run after the catch, he's inside

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Speaker 1: the five, and then he kind of leaped to the one.

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Speaker 2: Well, when you think about it, you know, the only

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Speaker 2: chance that the jaguarlls had was for the opportunity to

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Speaker 2: take it into overtime.

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Speaker 3: You know, conventional thinking would.

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Speaker 2: Say, okay, you know, you go there, you take three

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Speaker 2: knees and then you force them to take all their

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Speaker 2: timeouts and you leave them with fifteen to twenty seconds

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Speaker 2: thirty seconds at the most.

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Speaker 3: You kick a field goal and you say you have

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Speaker 3: no timeouts. You hope that you.

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Speaker 2: Kick the kickoff out of bounds, and you know they

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Speaker 2: started on the thirty. Even if they throw hell Mary,

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Speaker 2: they don't have any timeouts, they can't get back there

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Speaker 2: to spike the ball. So you know that's conventional thinking.

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Speaker 2: But you know the Jets thinking in fact that last

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Speaker 2: time we played in Miamiker kicked the ball out of

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Speaker 2: the out of the out of bounds or you know,

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Speaker 2: he kicked the ball and had future yeah, had by

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Speaker 2: the sound, had a huge return So it's one of

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Speaker 2: those things where like you you kind of stuck, like

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Speaker 2: do you do you go with conventional thinking or do

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Speaker 2: you feel like, hey, I got the fill of this team.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think it was good that the that

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Speaker 2: the defense was able to step up, but I think

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Speaker 2: that you know, they left they made it too interesting.

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Speaker 2: It shouldn't have been that interesting even if you would

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Speaker 2: have took two two knees and then scored after the

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Speaker 2: two knees after they use their time out, it looked

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Speaker 3: That's why they moved out the way.

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Speaker 2: But that's all the ways those little funny situations situational

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Speaker 3: They got the victory, and you know.

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Speaker 2: They they they they took the victory out of their

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Speaker 2: jaws of defeat. You know, however, you say that because

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Speaker 2: you know, before the pass to Devonte Adams to score,

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Speaker 2: it was slick, a real bleak.

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Speaker 1: So how unique is that those kind of stats.

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Speaker 4: That combination nine catches, nine receptions under ninety eight yards

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Speaker 4: of two touchdowns, all coming in the second half. They

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Speaker 4: didn't have one connection in the first half. That's all

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Speaker 4: over the course of thirty minutes. Then there was some

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Speaker 4: crazy stat where I believe DeVante Adams said about one

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Speaker 2: Well, they caught him in Tampa two, and you know,

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Speaker 2: I'll take my chance with Devonte Adams, you know, running

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Speaker 2: called him in the right in the right coverage. I

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Speaker 2: think the most impressive thing was when Aaron Rodgers smoked

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Speaker 2: them out of their defense and saw that the safety

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Speaker 2: to DeVante side was rotating to the middle of the

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Speaker 2: and he was able to get the pers down that

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Speaker 3: Catch the ball.

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Speaker 2: But I think, you know, when you watch what happened

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Speaker 2: yesterday's apparent is the fact that that you need DeVante

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Speaker 2: take the coverage and the bullseye off of Garrett Wilson,

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Speaker 2: Devonte Adams with Campbell, who's their best corner that town

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Speaker 2: the young player, But Devanta Adams scooed them. But that's

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Speaker 2: only because they had a threat of Garrett Wilson on

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Speaker 1: So we're so interesting.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry to jump in here, but it's so interesting

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Speaker 4: the point you just made, because early on in that game,

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Speaker 4: I thought Garrett Wilson was gonna be the one who

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Speaker 2: Whatever, keeping you guessing right, Sometimes they decided to take

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Speaker 2: gonna take away Devanta Adams and put Campbell on on on.

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Speaker 3: Garrett and then they flip flop. And that's what you

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Speaker 3: want to do.

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Speaker 2: You don't ever want to get in a steady dose

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Speaker 2: make it in their favor. And so you know, you

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Speaker 2: got to credit Jacksonville for what they attempted to do.

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Speaker 2: It's just that Aaron Rodgers and you know Devonte Anders

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Speaker 2: has done this so many times that they were able

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Speaker 2: to have that non verbal communication, slight gesture to him

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Speaker 2: and was able to make the adjustment. And you know,

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Speaker 2: you like that sometimes you saw him on the same side,

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Speaker 2: which really makes it difficult for them. Uh.

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Speaker 3: You know, Alan Lazzar had a pivotal drop. You know,

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Speaker 3: dB made a good, good, good, good play, but the

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Speaker 3: balls where it needed to be.

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Speaker 2: I hate to keep reiterating this, but I think with

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Speaker 2: fashion new plan at such high level, we saw Aaron

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Speaker 2: Rodgers have confidence in his blind side, and we see

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Speaker 2: the attempts down the field step up because of the

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Speaker 4: Do you like that Rogers came back to DeVante for

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Speaker 4: he had given them a lead, which was going to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's risky. I would have rather them

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Speaker 2: just run the football in. But you know, he completed

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Speaker 2: needed to get it at and they've done that, like

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Speaker 2: you said, a hundred times. You know, it's only what

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Speaker 2: four other duels that have done that at that high level.

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Speaker 2: And you know what's impressive is the fact when you

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Speaker 2: think about you know, Marvin Harrison and Peyton Manning, when

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Speaker 2: they did that. If his whole career there, what time

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Speaker 2: was missed? When you know Devanta Adams decided to go

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Speaker 3: You know people still there in Green Bay.

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Speaker 2: What would that record look like if they had to

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Speaker 2: stay with each other for the duration of their career.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so they're at eighty plus those guys one hundred

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Speaker 4: career touchdowns. Though, for Dalantae Adams, what was his most

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Speaker 1: Was it the third and ten up the sideline?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? It was over over the catch.

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Speaker 2: It's not just that he made the catches, that he

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Speaker 2: the catches is one thing within itself over you know,

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Speaker 2: looking over your shoulder and tracking the ball, But the

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Speaker 2: fact and wherewithal to keep your feet down was you know,

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Speaker 2: only a few people can do that and he's definitely

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Speaker 4: Okay, so what did you think about Rogers getting it

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Speaker 1: He was the Jets leading rusher.

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Speaker 4: You're not gonna play every week where your forty one

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Speaker 4: year old quarterback is the leading rusher. But can you

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Speaker 4: speak to the protection he got and also maybe hey, listen,

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Speaker 3: I think that's just a testament.

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Speaker 2: He's been healthy and teams are taking for granted that

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Speaker 2: you see this with Patrick Mahons. Guys want to play

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Speaker 2: cover zero and Patrick Mahomes makes them pay. Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: never been the most athletic quarterback, but he's been far

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Speaker 2: from the least athletic quarterback. He's not Peyton Manning or

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Speaker 2: still run a little bit, and I think he's getting

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Speaker 2: more healthy because he's not taking the hits that he

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Speaker 2: allows him to step up. The issue was that, you know,

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Speaker 2: Tyrone was getting beat so fast that even when you

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Speaker 2: you know, fashion was kind of guided him past Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 2: and Aaron Rodgers steps up and once you do that,

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Speaker 2: you get past a quarterback deck, you have a natural

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Speaker 3: But then now you only have three people.

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Speaker 2: If you're a defender, and it's created a lot of

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Speaker 2: just naturally opens up. And Aaron Rodgers exploited him, and

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Speaker 3: And it was good to see the old man. He'll

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Speaker 3: be able to see that he's still.

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Speaker 2: Able to have some fun by pointing at Jacksonville when

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Speaker 2: he got the first down, kind of mock Mac Jones,

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Speaker 2: who I think was you know, trying to do his greatest,

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Speaker 2: his greatest Trey Young impersonation being the most irritating person

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Speaker 2: in New York fans.

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Speaker 3: Your lore, so to speak.

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Speaker 1: Look at you, Carlon Rodgers.

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Speaker 4: All, Hey, so far the season is completed, about sixty

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Speaker 4: two point five percent of his passes three and fifty

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Speaker 4: five yards, twenty three touchdowns at eight interceptions.

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Speaker 1: What do you make of his season as a whole

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Speaker 1: right now?

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, It's tough because the winning hasn't been there.

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Speaker 2: You talk about the opportunities it was to win games,

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Speaker 2: but if you ask anybody, hey, a jet quarterback through

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Speaker 2: for this many touchdown pass it's this many yards in

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Speaker 2: this in this and only eight interceptions, you would say, wow,

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Speaker 2: that was that was a pretty productive season. This issue

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Speaker 4: Is there a wild war projecting Rogers could throw for

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean. Sometimes they get to yips

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Speaker 1: So I have a couple of Netflix questions for you.

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Speaker 3: Sure. Enigma?

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Speaker 3: So you're going to get everything that you can handle.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: You think about Pooking the cool and Cooper Cup one

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Speaker 2: With the cour why Cooper Cup is just as dangerous.

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Speaker 3: some oan.

446
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean, He's every bit you know

447
00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,680
Speaker 2: the part, you know, physical guy and he loves to

448
00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:15,680
Speaker 2: be effective.

449
00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,639
Speaker 3: And running, you know, block, you know, blocking in the

450
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Speaker 3: run game.

451
00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,800
Speaker 2: But also he's part of the run game, you know,

452
00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:22,879
Speaker 2: because he runs the ball and he's you know, a

453
00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,200
Speaker 2: tremendous receiver. He saw him, you know, doing David Tyree

454
00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,480
Speaker 2: instead of using his helmet, he pinted against the defender's helmet.

455
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Speaker 4: How does McVeigh challenge you schematically? And where would you

456
00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:38,399
Speaker 4: rank him amongst the play callers today in the National

457
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Speaker 4: Football League.

458
00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:39,920
Speaker 3: I mean he's right there.

459
00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,000
Speaker 2: I mean he's a guy that's going to continue to

460
00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,440
Speaker 2: test your eye discipline, your communication skills to shifts motions.

461
00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,760
Speaker 3: He'll shift or he'll motion set, then shifts in motion again,

462
00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,480
Speaker 3: and those are all things that forces you know, people

463
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Speaker 3: to have to communicate.

464
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Speaker 2: He's been doing this long time, ever since Tyd Gurley

465
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Speaker 2: being able to manipulate the pocket and manipulate you know,

466
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Speaker 2: the eyes and so you don't see what's really happening

467
00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,040
Speaker 2: because you so much for you to pay attention to

468
00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,600
Speaker 2: this all it takes you to have bad eyes one time.

469
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Speaker 4: And it's the rep interesting matchup for the Jets offensive line,

470
00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:13,760
Speaker 4: who you are very high on.

471
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Speaker 3: You are oulu.

472
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Speaker 4: Fashion News biggest fan, and the Jets have really held

473
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Speaker 4: up well in pass protection. If you look over the

474
00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,520
Speaker 4: course of the year, they've done a good job Aaron

475
00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,880
Speaker 4: Rodgers getting the ball out quick, but now we're seeing.

476
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Speaker 1: Him take more shots down the field.

477
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Speaker 4: No Aaron Donald with the Rams, but they do have

478
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Speaker 4: some young dudes who get ever up front.

479
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Speaker 1: Bro.

480
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Speaker 2: They got to Kobe Turner and talking about Jared versus Fisk,

481
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Speaker 2: they may be the most dominant line in the future

482
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Speaker 2: coming up. I mean they get after it. And you

483
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Speaker 2: talk about Kobe Turner what he was able to do

484
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Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago. It'd be a great test

485
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Speaker 2: to see how John Simthon and ver Tucker and Titman,

486
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Speaker 2: who I think is playing at a high level, you

487
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Speaker 2: know what I mean.

488
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Speaker 3: And Morgan mos is the old Wally Besch and to

489
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Speaker 3: be interesting because.

490
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Speaker 2: Even though you know they they are good, they do

491
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Speaker 2: get a lot they do get a lot points put

492
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Speaker 2: up on them, and they have some miscommunications. But they're

493
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Speaker 2: getting better as we go.

494
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Speaker 4: What do you make this time of year, right around

495
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Speaker 4: Christmas time, where the Rams are coming to the East coast,

496
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Speaker 4: this spot where it's gonna be exceptionally cold on Sunday, Well,

497
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Speaker 4: that's what the forecast is calling for, starting early against

498
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Speaker 4: the Jets team that has not hit their expectations this

499
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:32,520
Speaker 4: year at four and ten, but is played definitely better football,

500
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Speaker 4: especially in the offensive side.

501
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's been tests and you give me Sunday, right.

502
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 2: You never know how West Coast team is going to

503
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 2: react coming to the East Coast with the time difference

504
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,440
Speaker 2: and things like that, and also the elements, so we'll

505
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 2: see what they're what they're made out of. And you know,

506
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,640
Speaker 2: the Rams better get used to it in case they

507
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Speaker 2: have to come over to Green Bay or if they

508
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Speaker 2: have to go out.

509
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,879
Speaker 3: To Philadelphia, they might as well get used to them.

510
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Speaker 2: So I'm sure Sean McVay would use that as a

511
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Speaker 2: mental exercise for his team to get ready in case

512
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Speaker 2: they have the matchup with outside on the East Coast

513
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Speaker 2: in the elements.

514
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Speaker 4: And for the Jets talk about playing spoiler. You got

515
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 4: the Rams here this week and then the following week

516
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 4: you go to Buffalo and the Bills hoped to be

517
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Speaker 4: in contention for that number one seed in the AF

518
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Speaker 4: seed and that's a team you're gonna contend with not

519
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 4: only next year, but for a while. And Josh Allen

520
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Speaker 4: could be the MVP of the National Football League.

521
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny. Everybody's kind of pushing that.

522
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Speaker 2: And it's just it's like I heard Dani last he's

523
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Speaker 2: kind of prisoner at the moment right when you've looked

524
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Speaker 2: at it, because last I checked, you know, Lamar Jackson

525
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 2: through for five touchdown passes. He's at like he leads

526
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Speaker 2: in every metrics yards passing, Yo, he's got more rushing

527
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Speaker 2: yards he's got you know, he completed eighty percent of

528
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Speaker 2: his balls. And it's not the raven talking to me,

529
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Speaker 2: but how can a guy that's almost doubling hisself from

530
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Speaker 2: last year when he was unanimous the MVP, you know,

531
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Speaker 2: get you know, unless you know it's kind of a

532
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Speaker 2: popularity contest, sometimes you can get and a guy being

533
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Speaker 2: so dominant that he's really competing against what he did

534
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Speaker 2: against himself.

535
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Speaker 3: But even with that, he's even better. He's going to throw, he's.

536
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 2: Gonna throw for four thousand yards, he's going to complete

537
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 2: over seventy five percent of his passes.

538
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 3: Me, he only have five incompletions.

539
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 2: Yesterday, you know, So I find that funny that you know,

540
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 2: he only has two less wins than Josh Allen, and

541
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Speaker 2: he beat the brakes off Josh Allen wayer head to

542
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Speaker 2: head and so he's actually having to carry this Ravens team,

543
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Speaker 2: I feel more because his defense isn't the number one

544
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,439
Speaker 2: defense like it was last year, So he's having to

545
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 2: win these type of games. And you know, maybe Lamar

546
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 2: has something to say about it if he puts on

547
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Speaker 2: a dominant performance against Pittsburgh this Saturday. But Josh Allen

548
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 2: is definitely right there, Saquan is definitely right there, and

549
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Speaker 2: it'll be interested in his MVP race and to see

550
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Speaker 2: if they want to see somebody else, because like you said,

551
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 2: you can get Michael Jordan MVP in the every year,

552
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 2: you can give Kobe Lebron, certain guys that are just

553
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Speaker 2: that dominant as sometimes Patrick Mahomes come victims of their

554
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Speaker 2: own success.

555
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Speaker 1: Just your thoughts on the GM search for the Jets.

556
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 4: We know that that process is underway and Sherman Woody

557
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 4: Johnson has hired the thirty third team in.

558
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Speaker 1: Support to help him out throughout this process.

559
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 4: But Adam Scheffer reported Sunday morning before the Jets played

560
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Speaker 4: the Jaguars, if the Jets intend to interview John Robinson

561
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Speaker 4: and Lewis Riddick, those are just two early names here.

562
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 4: We're gonna hear more names as where we progress.

563
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:32,919
Speaker 3: That these are guys that are available, right, these are

564
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 3: guys that aren't currently with teams. So you have to

565
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 3: do your due diligence. You've got to be a thorough search.

566
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Speaker 2: You know, you got candidates that have been you know,

567
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Speaker 2: either general managers before or has been any in management

568
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 2: in future has interviewed to be general managers.

569
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Speaker 3: When you think about Lewis.

570
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Speaker 2: Riddick, you have Robinson and you think about you know

571
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 2: him and what he was able to build with the Titans.

572
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 2: But you also have to consider like the combinations because

573
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Speaker 2: the head coach and the the general manager.

574
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Speaker 3: Has to be you know, aligned with each other.

575
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 2: So if you if you bring in Robinson, what does

576
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 2: that mean with as far as interviewing you know, Mike Vrabel.

577
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 3: So, like these are all things that have to be considered.

578
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 2: The thirty third team I'm sure has their lists and

579
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 2: their due diligence and they know maybe potentially what combinations

580
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 2: work well together and we have.

581
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Speaker 4: To see, you know, do you think do you think

582
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 4: it's important as far as the order or not necessarily

583
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 4: in terms of getting a GM in place prior to

584
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Speaker 4: the head coach.

585
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Speaker 2: I mean it depends on like we all know, like

586
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 2: you know what, he has a different structure than some

587
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 2: or maybe even most of other organizations.

588
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,719
Speaker 3: You know, you have to make sure that you you know,

589
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 3: you get the general manager.

590
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 2: I feel that the general manager, you know, is going

591
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 2: to hire the coach, but you know, the coach is

592
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 2: gonna have something to say about it. You know, you

593
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 2: people can talk about the general manager. I almost feel

594
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 2: like the most powerful person in the building. Traditionally, in

595
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 2: my opinion, nowadays it's the head coach, right and the

596
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 2: general managers.

597
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 3: We're seeing first time general managers, you know, paired with.

598
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Speaker 2: Experienced coaches and you know, and so when you ask

599
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 2: that one has experienced one, don't are they growing together

600
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 2: or do you want to pair guys that have went together.

601
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a guy in the builder right now

602
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 2: that I'm a huge fan of that. I think he

603
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 2: should get a legitimate shot at Phil Savage. You know,

604
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 2: you think about who he's responsible for. He's responsible for

605
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 2: the development of Eric DaCosta. He's responsible for the development

606
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 2: of Joe Ortiz. So he's always been one of the

607
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 2: best talent evaluators. You know, ran a senior bowl.

608
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 3: I think right now he's the assistant general manager.

609
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 2: I think he should get a legitimate shot to be

610
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 2: the general manager of the New York Jets because he's

611
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 2: been a very great executive and a great talent evaluator

612
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 2: in his year in this league for years and years.

613
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Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, Phil Savage an interim general manager here

614
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 4: with the New York Jets and Jeff Ulbert the interim

615
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 4: head coach.

616
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Speaker 1: You got a feel for a guy like Breck. It's

617
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 1: been a long time coming.

618
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 4: As the Jets snapped that four game losing streak and

619
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 4: they've suffered a lot of defeats, but you could feel

620
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 4: the emotion when he went inside the Jets locker room

621
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 4: after finally getting another win against the Jaguars.

622
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, because this signal progress, right, you know.

623
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 2: I mean, you've been right there on the cusp of victory,

624
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 2: but you haven't been ever to close out and to

625
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 2: be able to close on, to be able to close

626
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 2: out on his side of the ball.

627
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 3: I think had to feel good for him just so

628
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 3: he can have a positive playing ride back.

629
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Speaker 2: And you know, you're you're preaching to the guys keep

630
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 2: playing hard, finish and all that stuff and be a professional.

631
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 2: You know, not that the Jets are eliminated for a

632
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 2: playoff contention, and that's not easy to do to motivate

633
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 2: people to say, hey, man, like come out here with

634
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 2: the intensity as if this is uh, this game is

635
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 2: for the playoffs, you know.

636
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 4: And he's given He's given it every day Bart and

637
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 4: he is a blove figure inside this building.

638
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, listen, He's a guy that was given opportunity.

639
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 2: But it also was a tough situation being that you

640
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 2: have never been a head coach and to get that

641
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 2: opportunity on a fly and have to learn, you know,

642
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 2: all the roles of a a head coach, going to

643
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 2: interviews and all the things that come with being a

644
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 2: head coach and they're still trying to be elite at

645
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 2: your job as a defensive coordinator.

646
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 3: Was it was a tall task.

647
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 2: For anybody, and anybody, you know, we're all envious of

648
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 2: the fact that you know, that's a tough situation to

649
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 2: be on. We recognize that you're.

650
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:16,479
Speaker 3: Doing with the holiday shopping.

651
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 2: No, not at all, man, I got a little bit

652
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 2: more to do for the little one, you know, the

653
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 2: you know, Gg's easy because she just gives you her list.

654
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 3: Bryce is a kid.

655
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 2: That don't really care about anything, Like you know, you

656
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 2: never know what he wants, so you just kind of got.

657
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 3: To figure out what you think he likes, get after it.

658
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 3: Bro Yeah, Brody