1 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: Get Anything America. 2 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 2: Happy Tuesday before Christmas, and welcome to the latest edition 3 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: of justin News, No Noise. I'm your host, John Solomon, 4 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 2: reporting to us always from the Nation Nation's Capital, where 5 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: today we have a big story on free speech. If 6 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 2: you remember a lot of the reporting going back to 7 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 2: twenty one and twenty two on the industrial censorship complex 8 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 2: was broken here at justin News in a short while ago. 9 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 2: For the first time, Secretary of State Marco Rubu created 10 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 2: a real consequence for those who were involved in censoring 11 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 2: America's opinions. This happened overseas. Five European figures have been sanctioned. 12 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: They have essentially been told their visas will not allow 13 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: them into the United States travel to the United States, 14 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: even though they belonged to the Western world wide, because 15 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: they betrayed Western values and sought to censor American's opinions 16 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 2: on platforms like Twitter and Facebook and other places around 17 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 2: the world. This is the first of what could be 18 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 2: several sanctions against Europeans who have tried to squelch free 19 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 2: speech not only on their continent but inside our country. 20 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 2: And that's not the only big accountability news we have today. 21 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: And you can go check that out over justinews dot com. 22 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 2: We got the whole story last night. We broke the 23 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 2: story that PHARMACYI director John Brennan and his lawyers have 24 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 2: told a federal court they took an extraordinary's step. Have 25 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 2: been told a federal court he has been informed John 26 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 2: Brennan has that he's going to be a target of 27 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 2: a criminal grandeury investigation in Florida. Now, what does that mean? 28 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: A target means someone who's likely to be indicted. That's 29 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 2: what the US Attorney's Manual defines it as well. Brennan's 30 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 2: lawyers are asking the Chief Federal Judge of Miami to 31 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 2: intervene to stop the indictment from occurring, arguing that the 32 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: Justice Department is judge shopping and venue shopping. In fact, 33 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: they specifically said they're very worried that the Trump Justice 34 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 2: Department might try to get the case in front of 35 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 2: Judge Eileen Cannon. That's the judge in Fort Pierce, Florida, 36 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 2: who dismissed one of Jack Smith's prosecutions against President Trump. 37 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 2: She's not liked by the left, definitely not liked by 38 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,679 Speaker 2: John Brennan's lawyers. But today that letter has been made 39 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: public we wrote about it, and all eyes are watching 40 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 2: the grand jury proceedings in Miami to see if something 41 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 2: happens in the next few weeks given what John Brennan's 42 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 2: lawyer has just revealed to the world. With that, I 43 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 2: want to turn to my extraordinary colleague, Amanda Head. 44 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: She's got a lot of other important headlines. 45 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 2: Today, including a booming, zooming, gross Domestic project a product report. Amanda, 46 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 2: that Trump economy is really crackling, isn't it. 47 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 3: Indeed? And you know, you and I have talked about 48 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 3: what next year could possibly look like for Republicans on 49 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 3: Capitol Hill and President Trump in his war against unaffordability 50 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 3: and trying to get zooming, booming economy. And when you 51 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 3: get that GDP growth, like we're going to show you 52 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 3: this in this tape, that is something that is one 53 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 3: of the main drivers of it. So we've got National 54 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 3: Economic Council Director Kevin Hasset, he's talking about this GDP report. 55 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 3: Four point three percent growth, absolutely incredible. Check it out. 56 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 4: It's really a fantastic number, and it's a great Christmas 57 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 4: president for the American people. And you know, I would 58 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 4: say that the headline for me is two things that 59 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 4: I think the big macro trends that we're seeing in 60 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 4: these numbers are, first of all, the President Trump's trade 61 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 4: agenda is working, and so we got about you know, 62 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 4: one and a half percent of the growth on four 63 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 4: point three because we reduce the trade deficit. And then 64 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 4: the other thing that I think, which is a big 65 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 4: mac growth thing that we're seeing is that the artificial 66 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 4: intelligence productivity boom is really clearly in the data. 67 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 3: And John, Kevin Hassett and some others we're giving some 68 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 3: interviews about a month ago, and I stand the strategy 69 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 3: of managing expectations, but they said, you know, we would 70 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 3: we would love to see four percent and this is 71 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 3: even above that, So great numbers for them, Hunter Biden. 72 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 3: John is back in the headlines. He went on podcast 73 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 3: Sean Ryan's show, and he invoked a lot of our 74 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 3: old pal's names like Lev Parnis and Dimitri Fertash and 75 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 3: some other names that we have been familiar with reporting 76 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 3: over at Just the News. But he has an interesting 77 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 3: thing to say about his laptop. 78 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 5: Check it out. 79 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 6: So what I can tell you about the laptop is 80 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 6: that there is no laptop that that's what was provided 81 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 6: out there would the there was no laptop. There is 82 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 6: an actual physical laptop that somebody had, but the guy 83 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 6: that had that said he had the laptop. The existence 84 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 6: of the search for the laptop came before he was 85 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 6: even a twinkle in Vigiliani's eye. What they did is 86 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 6: they cobbled together, stolen, concocted, fabricated mishmash of digital information. 87 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 3: As Ted Lasso would say, I beg to differ Claudia Scheffer, 88 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 3: but alast we able to move on to his next 89 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 3: clip from that same interview, where he talks about his 90 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 3: position on the Barisma board and if the Bidens had 91 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,119 Speaker 3: any of those shady overseas dealings that we have again 92 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 3: reported a lot on at just the News. 93 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 5: To check it out. 94 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 6: Is it a mistake to go on the board? 95 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 7: Yeah? 96 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, it was absolutely a mistake. Not because of anything 97 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 8: that I did that I am embarrassed about or in 98 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 8: any way whatsoever feel conflicted about as it relates to 99 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 8: what I did for Barisma, but because of the political 100 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 8: position that put us all in. They used that as 101 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 8: the toe in the door to be able to call 102 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 8: my family the Biden crime family without any evidence. 103 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 3: I bet my esteemed colleague has something to say about that. John, 104 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 3: I'm gonna throw it at you and feel free to 105 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 3: say whatever you'd like. 106 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 2: I think two courts have something to say about that, 107 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 2: because two separate courts convicted Hunter Biden of crimes, and 108 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 2: his father erased that with a pardon. But he was 109 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 2: a convicted felam there's no doubt about it before those 110 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 2: pardons occurred. 111 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: You know. 112 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 2: I thought the most interesting segment in that, Amanda, he 113 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 2: actually disowned his father's withdrawal from Afghanistan and saying it 114 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 2: was badly handled. And then he said he may no 115 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 2: longer be a Democrat because he thinks that illegal immigration's 116 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 2: bad for American like most of his party. 117 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: I thought that was kind of interesting too. Keep an 118 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: eye on what he's up to. 119 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 2: I wonder if he's got some grand political metamorphosis going on. 120 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: That will have to watch for him. 121 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 2: But anyways, you mentioned Kevin Hassett, who gave those great 122 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 2: numbers today on GDP growth, the size and growth of 123 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 2: the economy. His former chief Housing economists spent some time 124 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 2: with us earlier day. And why this is important is 125 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 2: that President Trump just gave a speech and said he's 126 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 2: gonna unleash one of the most exciting and biggest housing reform. 127 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 2: Housing policy reform package isn't over a half century, potentially 128 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 2: creating a boom like we saw in the post wal 129 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: Wartare era after the GI Build. We had a really 130 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 2: great conversation. Listen to what we talked about with doctor 131 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,119 Speaker 2: Morris Davis. All Right, folks, joining us now the former 132 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 2: chief housing economist for the White House Council of Economic 133 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 2: Advisors under President Trump. He's now a member of the 134 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 2: board of directors at one of the most innovative home 135 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 2: building companies in the world, Boxable, Dr Morris A. Davis, 136 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 2: Doctor Davis, good to have you on the show today. 137 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 7: It's a pleasure to be here. Thank you for having me. 138 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: Oh, it's a great honor. All right. 139 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 2: So I want to turn to something that the President 140 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: made a big deal about in his year end speech. 141 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 2: He dropped a big hint that he has been working 142 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 2: on a new housing plant, something that might create a 143 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 2: housing boon, something akin to the GI Build the nineteen fifties, 144 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 2: which gave us that great housing run and really created 145 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 2: the American. 146 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: Dream of the nineteen fifties. 147 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 2: In the Eisenhower administration, you know a lot about what's 148 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: been going on behind the scenes. It seems as though 149 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 2: we've got a little bit of suppli and a little 150 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 2: bit of demand economics put together and what could be 151 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 2: a historic plan. 152 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: What can you tell us about it? 153 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 9: Well, I think the President has the opportunity in front 154 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 9: of him to create possibly the largest housing boom in 155 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 9: US history, and I think he has the tools and 156 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 9: the personnelity to and the plans to accomplish it. There 157 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 9: are some ideas that are being discussed that are both 158 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 9: demand side and supply side. The demand side ideas I 159 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 9: think your audience will be familiar with, which is the 160 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 9: FED has to lower interest rates. 161 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 7: Mortgage rates are too. 162 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 9: High, and you know with the new FED chairman and 163 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 9: interest rates and mortgage rates will come down. 164 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 7: That's part of the equation. 165 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 9: The other part of the equation that's a necessity is 166 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 9: to create more houses. And we think that the President 167 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 9: has the capacity with the right plan to create twelve 168 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 9: million new houses over the next ten years. That what 169 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 9: will that do That will make housing attainable for young families. 170 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 7: Again, people do not know that there has been a. 171 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 9: Supply shortage of housing that started in the year two 172 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 9: thousand and eight. Prior to two thousand and eight in 173 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 9: the US We used to add to the US to 174 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 9: the housing stock about one point five percent per year, 175 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 9: means we built enough every year so that the stock 176 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 9: of single family homes would increase one point five one 177 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 9: point six one point seven percent every year, year after year. 178 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 7: We did that for fifty years. 179 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 9: Starting in two thousand and eight, the rate of housing 180 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 9: supply fell not to one point four, not to one 181 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 9: point three, but it fell at a zero point eight 182 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 9: percent per year growth. 183 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 7: It got cut in half. 184 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 9: So it's not a surprise that we have a housing 185 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 9: affordability crisis. We stopped building, and our president, maybe one 186 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 9: of the greatest real estate developers of all time, understands this. 187 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 9: He understands that to have housing for young families, we 188 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 9: have to start building again. And when I was at 189 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 9: the Council of Economic Advisors, we developed a plan for 190 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 9: the President such as we would start building houses again. 191 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 9: And our belief at the Council, I don't want to 192 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 9: speak for everyone at the Council, but I think our 193 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 9: belief on the Housing team was that if this plan 194 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 9: were enacted thoughtfully, enacted, like we know this administration can do, that, 195 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 9: would we build an additional twelve million units over let's 196 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 9: say ten years. 197 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 10: Yeahs a huge chamber. 198 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 9: People don't understand the bottleneck. You could say, why have 199 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 9: we stopped building houses? Like why what happened? And state 200 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 9: and local regulations just got really strict. There was a 201 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 9: study in twenty twenty one by the National Association of 202 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 9: home Builders, and that study suggests that state and local 203 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 9: regulations add more than ninety thousand dollars to the cost 204 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 9: of a single family home. Some of that is just 205 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 9: weird changes to the building code that like just add 206 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 9: unnecessarily to expense. Some of that's permitting delays. Some of 207 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 9: that's impact fees, fees that builders are charged because of 208 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 9: it they need vodes or sewers, or there's some disruption. 209 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 9: Some of that is just graft for lack of a 210 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 9: better word, er they can say taxes that are called taxes, 211 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 9: but anyway, it's ninety plus thousand dollars in twenty twenty one. 212 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 9: Now tack on the Biden inflation, it's well north of 213 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 9: one hundred thousand dollars not to the cost of a 214 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 9: single family home. That's why no one can afford a house. 215 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 9: That's why the age of a first time home buyer 216 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 9: is forty. So we have to undo those regulations, to 217 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 9: build more, to get housing prices new housing prices down 218 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 9: so that American families can buy houses again. 219 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 5: Absolutely, Morris. 220 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 3: A lot of people refer to your very illustrious career 221 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 3: and the various roles that you've had, whether it's with 222 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 3: the White House that said, or wherever of these stops 223 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 3: on your road to being on the board of directors 224 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 3: at Boxable. 225 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 5: The one word I hear is transformative. 226 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 3: And it seems like Boxable, what they are doing within 227 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 3: the housing market, it seems like a steamless transition for 228 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 3: you because what they are doing is also transformative. 229 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 9: Yeah, I was so excited to meet the CEOs of Boxable, 230 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 9: and I'm just so excited to be on the board 231 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 9: of Boxable. I believe in what Boxable is doing. I 232 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 9: believe that Boxable can be, will be is a great 233 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 9: company that will not only benefit its investors, but will 234 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 9: also change the way that Americans view homeownership housing. Think 235 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 9: about the way that houses are built. Do houses look 236 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 9: built now any different than one hundred years ago? We 237 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 9: still have a pool of labor showing up and like 238 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 9: measuring things on the spot, putting wood on saws, and 239 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 9: cutting by hand. 240 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 7: It's like one. 241 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 9: Hundred year old technology, Like, we don't build cars the 242 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 9: same way that we used to in nineteen ten. So 243 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 9: what Boxble's trying to do is just take all of 244 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 9: the great manufacturing innovations that we've had in other industries 245 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 9: and bring them to housing. And what that means is 246 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 9: that Boxable and other companies, but Boxable, will be able 247 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 9: to deliver very high quality housing using manufacturing precision at 248 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 9: costs that like a young American household can afford. And 249 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 9: you know, typically if you think of a manufactured home, 250 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 9: you might think. 251 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 7: Of, you know, a trailer. 252 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 9: Trailers are manufactured. But the types of homes and Boxible 253 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 9: expects to build are three ford bedroom, single family homes, 254 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 9: could be town homes, could be normal homes, single normal 255 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 9: detached homes two thousand and three thousand, maybe four thousand 256 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 9: square feet. The only thing that's different is you get 257 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 9: the precision and accuracy and innovation that. 258 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 7: Comes along with manufacturing. 259 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 9: And I think this is what American needs now and 260 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 9: that's why I was just delighted to be asked to 261 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 9: join the boxbill board. 262 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a historic moment. 263 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 2: And mom and Dad's homes were in gram and Gravis 264 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 2: homes were built with brick and mortar and cement on site, 265 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 2: but the future homes are probably going to be on 266 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:13,719 Speaker 2: a semi line and then delivered to the side. It's 267 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 2: going to be pretty exciting to watch that now. More so, 268 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 2: I want to ask you about this. I've heard a 269 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 2: lot of rumblings that one of the things that the 270 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 2: Trump administry might try. 271 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: To do is to create a model code. 272 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 2: Obviously, they can't oppose local zoning regulations, but they can 273 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 2: come up with the best ideas and use the power 274 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 2: of the person to encourage people to follow them. 275 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: That would allow something. 276 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 2: Like a national factory certification a mobile home or manufactured 277 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 2: home building standards. Is that something that would make a 278 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 2: big difference if communities were incentivized to follow the best 279 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 2: national practices. 280 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 7: Absolutely, it is essential. And I like to draw this analogy. 281 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 9: Because it's just so abstract when you talk about a 282 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 9: national build code. What does that mean? And don't local 283 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 9: people know what meets their community's best I get that, 284 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 9: But here's the analogy that I think sells it around 285 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 9: the CIA and the CIA is friends ceas Council of 286 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 9: Economic Advisors. So the CIA in our friends, what do 287 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 9: we say how expensive would cars be If every state, 288 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 9: in every community had its own engineering requirements, its own 289 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 9: safety requirements, its own inspection requirements. 290 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 7: There could be no scale. There'd be no. 291 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 9: Large factories, there'd be no scale, there'd be no returns 292 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 9: to scale. It would be like every car is a 293 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 9: custom build and every car would be expensive. 294 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 7: So like people would talk. 295 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 9: About every state having its own engineering for cars is 296 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 9: rightfully kind of wasteful at a minimum and probably crazy. 297 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 7: That's what we have right now. 298 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 9: For housing that's manufactured, every state has its own code, 299 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 9: every state has its own requirements, every state has its 300 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 9: own inspection regime. And for that reason, we're not getting 301 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 9: economies of scale. Like if we could build housing quickly 302 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 9: in a factory, which would be which itself is enabled 303 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 9: by common codes across states and localities, that cost savings 304 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 9: will flow directly to the American consumer. And think about 305 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:20,359 Speaker 9: who the American consumer is right now. Sixty five six 306 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 9: sixty seven percent of Americans own who doesn't own a 307 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 9: home right now are young people. What we need to 308 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 9: do is we need to get high quality, inexpensive homes 309 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 9: in the hands of young people so that they can 310 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 9: start having families again, so that they can start living 311 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 9: the American dream again. An essential component of that is 312 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 9: to start getting returns to scale for manufacturing, and the 313 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 9: fastest way to do that is have uniform codes across 314 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 9: states and the counties. 315 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, what a game changer that would be. You can 316 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 2: see why there's such an anticipation. Twelve million new homes 317 00:16:55,120 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 2: would be a game changer across the United States. What 318 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 2: a great honor to have you on the show. I 319 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 2: want to wish you Merry Christmas, Morris, and also thank 320 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 2: you for the work you've done. I have a funny 321 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 2: feeling twenty twenty six, we're going to see a lot 322 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 2: of the hard work you did come to light. But 323 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 2: great to have you on the show today. I really 324 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 2: appreciate it. Merry Christmas to you and to your listeners. 325 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 2: And I'm really optimistic about twenty twenty six. I think 326 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 2: this is going to be a transformative year for housing 327 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 2: and for American culture under our great president's leadership. 328 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: So thank you very much. I have a funny Yeah, 329 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: I have a funny feeling. 330 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 2: You're right, we got some MECA and not of an 331 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 2: indicators that suggest we're already head in that direction. It's 332 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 2: going to be pretty exciting of cour It's great to 333 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 2: have you on, folks. We're going to take a quick 334 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 2: commercial break. Exciting conversations ahead right. 335 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 1: After these messages. 336 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 5: Welcome back everybody. 337 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 3: Recently, President Trump designated a fentanel as a weapon of 338 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 3: mass destruction. This, of course, is continuing his administration's effort 339 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 3: and fight against deadly trafficking of drugs that have killed 340 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,959 Speaker 3: hundreds of thousands of Americans thus far. So joining us 341 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 3: now to talk more about that policy and how it 342 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 3: helps the effort is the former Deputy Assistant Secretary of 343 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,719 Speaker 3: Defense for Countering Weapons of Mass Destruction, David Lasseter. 344 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 5: David, thanks so much for being with us. 345 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 7: Thanks, Amanda, great to be here. 346 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 11: John, good to see you. 347 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 10: Yeah. 348 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 3: See, David, we focus so much on this designation and 349 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 3: how it affects Mexico and the cartels, But how does 350 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 3: this affect policy towards China, because China's where all of 351 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 3: this originates. 352 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 11: That's exactly right, you know. 353 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 12: And I will say this is this was a decisive 354 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 12: action decision that the President's made. He's done this countless 355 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 12: times this year and here, as you referenced, hundreds of 356 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 12: thousands of deaths of our American citizens over the last 357 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 12: number of years, and what this does through an executive 358 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 12: order is, in my mind, it provides better authority for 359 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 12: coordination between the departments and agencies, which is absolutely vital. 360 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 12: You know, some will quibble with, you know, the legal 361 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 12: determination or designation, what that actually matters, what that actually means. 362 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 12: But what it does do is allows the Department Defense 363 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 12: or Department of War and the Department of Justice, as 364 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 12: well as other departments and agencies to work better together, 365 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 12: defines what they need to do. He has said, look, 366 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 12: this is a scourge on American society, but it also 367 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,719 Speaker 12: has really significant impacts. 368 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 11: If weaponized, and the chemicals in. 369 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 12: Fentanyl illicit fentanyl, it's precursors have verak taboc as we've 370 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 12: talked about on the health side. But there's really some 371 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 12: significant concerns about what it could do if it weaponized. 372 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 2: And that really is a big concern that I've heard 373 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 2: inside the intelligence community. When you talk about terrorists or 374 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 2: cartels fighting back against our attacks on them, this could 375 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 2: be weaponized. In addition just the mere toll, I mean, 376 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 2: when you look at the number of people who've died 377 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 2: by fentanyl and opiate poisoning, it is more than World 378 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 2: War Two, Vietnam, and the Gulf War combined. This is 379 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 2: the largest depth all from a weapon that we've ever 380 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 2: really seen in America. 381 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 7: Right, that's exactly right. 382 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 11: And you know I've been asked, you know, well, you know, 383 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 11: has it been weaponized? Can it be weaponized? 384 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 12: I always point back to the two thousand and two 385 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,959 Speaker 12: incident in Russia where chech And terrorists took over a 386 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 12: movie theater and the Russian security forces didn't want to 387 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 12: go in against forty heavily armed chech And terrorists. So 388 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 12: what did they do. They used a fentanyl analog. They 389 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 12: pumped it through the ventilation system really in a desire 390 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 12: to incapacitate the terrorists and those inside. But what happened 391 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 12: when they went in was after killing the terrorists that 392 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 12: were there, they ended up being about one hundred and 393 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 12: thirty hostages dead because of the impact and the severity 394 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 12: of this chemical. And so if you think about that 395 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 12: from a weaponization standpoint, where the airly like that was 396 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 12: or used in to poison water supplies or even food, 397 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 12: it is significant. John And and we've seen with the 398 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 12: proliferation of other illicit materials and those that could be 399 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 12: made into weapons of mass destruction. 400 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 11: It's a significant thing. 401 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 12: The President took a big stand here, and I think 402 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 12: you made the right choice. 403 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 3: Well, and David, I'm so glad you brought up the 404 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 3: fact that it can be aerosolized. We look at at 405 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 3: the next evolution of what war looks like, and drone 406 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 3: technology is pretty much at the top of what that 407 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 3: advancement looks like. So you combine that with the fact 408 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 3: that you can aerosolize this, and you know, a lot 409 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 3: of the people who are against this WMD designation say, well, 410 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 3: you know, this only affects people who choose to take 411 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 3: drugs or who choose to be exposed to this type 412 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 3: of thing. 413 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 5: That's not true at all anymore. 414 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 12: It's not true. And you know, we could look at 415 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 12: the Chemical Weapons Convention. I'll say, oh, well it's not 416 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 12: you know, it's not listed. You know it's not it's 417 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 12: not in violation. Will always point to the to the 418 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 12: general provision, and that's the general purpose criterion. 419 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 11: That if a chemical is used as. 420 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 12: A weapon, it is it is in violation of the 421 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 12: Chemical Weapons Convention, of which we and in most countries 422 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,959 Speaker 12: on the Earth are signatories. And so you're exactly right, Amanda, 423 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 12: and whether it's paralyzed, you know, and used conceivably on 424 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 12: the UAV platform, run man platform, or otherwise, it has 425 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 12: significant h you know, possibilities of of of of harm 426 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 12: to America, the American populace. You think about you know, 427 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 12: open stadiums, you think about you know, closed public transit systems, 428 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 12: and and what the President has done is said, look, 429 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,719 Speaker 12: this is a weapon instruction. And you know, he pointed 430 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 12: just to two numbers. And you know, I like to 431 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 12: you know, we used to hold these up in the Pentagon. 432 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 7: But it's a sugar. 433 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 12: Packet five grams or so that can kill hundreds of 434 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 12: people if weaponized. And so you know, the present pointed 435 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 12: to numbers, small numbers in the executive order that you 436 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 12: know that can kill an individual, you know, if consumed 437 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 12: that if weaponis it can can kill a lot more. 438 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, really important. I want to take you to another 439 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: important topic. What we're doing with Venezuela. 440 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 2: Obviously that's part of the ground zero of the war 441 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 2: against drugs. Of Venezuelan's obviously pumping lots of the poisons 442 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 2: into our country. The boats are getting blown up, that 443 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 2: is taking away one area of transport or taking away 444 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 2: some of the cash by seizing the oil tankers. And 445 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 2: then there's an expectation, as President Trump said, so that 446 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 2: we might do some action on land. Tell us walk 447 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 2: us through the strategy as you see it, where we 448 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 2: are now in what the nests phase might look like. 449 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 12: Well, and you you you bring up a good point, 450 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 12: and that's a strategy. 451 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 11: And it appears that there is, you know, a. 452 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 12: Strategy to ratchet up the pressure pressure part of me 453 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 12: on Maduro and the Venezuelan regime to ensure that they 454 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 12: stop proliferating our waters but really our lands with this drug, 455 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 12: but also human trafficking. And there's you know, the President 456 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 12: has raised multiple concerns and these strikes that have been 457 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 12: made on on these boats you know, transiting the waters, 458 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 12: our strikes at the Department of War, and you know, 459 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 12: the lawyers within the departments and agencies have determined to 460 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 12: be proper and proper strikes that you know can enable 461 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 12: you know, one part of that strategy. So you mentioned 462 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 12: the blockade. Another number of these vessels are sanctioned. There's 463 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 12: sanctioned vessels, uh, you know because of the you know, 464 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 12: illegal transport of crude. Some vessels that aren't sanctioned. You know, 465 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 12: have have at least up to now, had some opportunity 466 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 12: to get through presidents sided. Look, we're going to seize 467 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 12: these We're going to claim the vessels in oil to 468 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 12: to keep the pressure on and John. The last thing, 469 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 12: or re least the next step you mentioned is strikes 470 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 12: on land. 471 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 7: We'll see what those. 472 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 12: Are, but probably if they happen, there's strikes on facilities 473 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 12: that either drug facilities or facilities where stuff is either manufactured, produced, 474 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 12: transported conceivably on other infrastructure that could either go towards 475 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 12: providing or facilitating the use in storage of oil, but 476 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 12: also probably more likely on the drug facilities. 477 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, David, when you consider the human toll or the 478 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 3: human lives saved rather, I think it was Susie Wilds 479 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 3: who recently talked about President Trump and his perspective on 480 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 3: all of this is not the death of the people 481 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 3: who are transporting the drugs. 482 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 5: That's the amount of life saved. 483 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 3: When you consider Trendy or Agua behind this and their 484 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 3: bottom line on the other side of the coin, is 485 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 3: their profiteering off of this? Do we know can we 486 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 3: quantify how much their bottom line has been hurt as 487 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 3: a result of what President Trump has done. 488 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 11: It's a very good question. 489 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 13: Man. 490 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 12: I don't know if we can, but I think what 491 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 12: you point out in the President done so eloquently and 492 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 12: as you did that, it's all about you know, the 493 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 12: men and women are brothers and sisters in America. I mean, 494 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 12: we've all, every one of us, whether it's directly or indirectly, 495 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 12: has been impacted, you know, by the scourge of fentyl 496 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 12: and other drugs pumping into our Look. 497 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 11: I mean, fentyl is one hundred times. 498 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 12: More powerful than than than normal I say normal, but uh, 499 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 12: you know other uh drugs that that that we use 500 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 12: for for it for legitimate medical purposes. I mean to 501 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 12: think that you know, traditional opiates, you know, are not 502 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 12: are not enough. We we have been forced, you know, 503 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 12: in this country, unfortunately too, for these cartels to to 504 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 12: to pump these into America. And I think, you know, 505 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 12: getting back to your question, that the bottom line and 506 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 12: the economic impact I think is going to be significant. 507 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 11: I mean, I don't know what what it is now, 508 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 11: but I imagine. 509 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 12: It'll be enough to force a course direction, and hopefully 510 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 12: that course direction is they stop transmitting drugs through our 511 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 12: waters and into America. 512 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 2: On the objectives of the military mission. Right now, it 513 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,719 Speaker 2: seems like the pressure is designed to get the Maduro lead, 514 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 2: but the military action probably wouldn't aim to do a 515 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 2: decapitation strike. Is that a good read of where it 516 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 2: seems the pentagon of the War Department is right now? 517 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 11: I think it is. 518 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 12: You know, I mean we you often, you know, we 519 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 12: hear discussions between you know, the branches of the government. 520 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 12: Who has the right to declare war and who has 521 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 12: the right to execute you know, certain certain missions. Well, 522 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 12: we know the commander in chief, you know, is his 523 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 12: responsible and in charge of the United States military, and 524 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 12: if if he decides that certain actions should be undertaken 525 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 12: again for the security, for the for the national security 526 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 12: of our country, but safety of Americans and really our 527 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 12: partners and allies in the Western hemisphere, then he's going. 528 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: To do it. 529 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 11: I the pressure on Maduro is significant, you know. 530 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 12: Yes, the Russians and Chinese have express support and they 531 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 12: said that they will continue to support the regime. Yeah, 532 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 12: that seems to be just in words, and hopefully it 533 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 12: will remain in words alone. But I think the pressure 534 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,959 Speaker 12: economically is going to be so much on Mordurero that 535 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 12: it will it will have an impact and he is 536 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 12: eventually going to kind of step down. If not, then 537 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 12: then I think whatever the next step in that strategy 538 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 12: that you pointed to. 539 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 11: Earlier, John, will happen. 540 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 3: David, you put all this in perspective in such a 541 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 3: clear and concise way for our audience. 542 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 5: Thank you so much for being with us. 543 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 3: David Lassiter, former Deputy Assistant Secretary for Defense of Defense 544 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 3: for Countering Weapons of mass Destruction. 545 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 12: Merry Christmas to you, sir, Merry Christmas, Amanda, John, thank 546 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 12: you very much. 547 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 3: Absolutely all right, everybody, We're going to take. 548 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 5: A very quick break, but we have much more for 549 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 5: you on the other side. 550 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 14: M h M. 551 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: Welcome back in America. 552 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 2: Standing your ground against a perpetrator attempting to threaten your 553 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 2: life should be an instance where the case is open 554 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 2: and shut. Right, That's what we all think, right, But 555 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 2: in some states a tireless legal battle can ensue over 556 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 2: protecting not just your own life, but the life of 557 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 2: the criminal who was threatening. 558 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: Our next guest. 559 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 2: Not only has experiences, his experience led him to advocate 560 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 2: for preparedness, responsibility, and most importantly, honor joining us. 561 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: To discuss this. 562 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 2: As retired Army captain and author of the book Stand 563 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 2: Your Ground, One Man's Self Defense Nightmare. He is Captain 564 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 2: Barry Todd. So good to have you on the. 565 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 7: Show, John, Thank you for having me. This is awesome. 566 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 2: It is a powerful story and a lot of times 567 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 2: we learn through personal experience. 568 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: Walk us. 569 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 2: What happened to you back in twenty fourteen, about eleven 570 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 2: years ago? 571 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 13: Yep, Well, simply, my wife and I were out with 572 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 13: some retired friends, military friends, and we were both threatened, 573 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 13: and then I was viciously attacked not by one man, 574 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 13: but two twice, one of them wielding a knife. And 575 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 13: when the police showed up without any due process our investigation, 576 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 13: I was charged with a tempered murder and two counts 577 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 13: of aggravating assault. 578 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 3: I'm real, wow, Caps, And I think that a lot 579 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 3: of people hear a story like yours and they think 580 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 3: to themselves, this has got to be an anomaly. 581 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 5: This is an aborration. 582 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 3: But your story, I mean, while it's horrific, it's not 583 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 3: unlike what we hear about happening in a lot of places. 584 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 3: Is it typically though blue state locales? 585 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 7: No, it's not. It's happening all over the place. I 586 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 7: live in a red state. 587 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 13: This happened in New Marizona, where gun rights are very prevalent. 588 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 7: They believe in them, and it's in our laws. 589 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 13: The problem is is that you have prosecutors in police 590 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 13: that don't follow the laws. 591 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 7: I mean, my entire incident. 592 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 13: Was on video, and yet the police never looked at 593 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 13: the videos before where they charged me. They took the 594 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 13: witness statements of the friends of the people that assaulted 595 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 13: my wife and I. 596 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 2: Just amazing, kind of like the Justice Department rating President 597 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 2: Trump's own without probable cause, which is what the FBI 598 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 2: document showed they actually did. I want to ask how 599 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 2: your case played out and what you learned from it, 600 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 2: because obviously you wrote a book, you've educated us all 601 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 2: but walk us through the case and how it ultimately 602 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 2: gets disposed of. 603 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 13: Well, simply the first right off the bat, my attorney 604 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 13: got the grand jury transcripts and he said, hold it. 605 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 13: He didn't cover the proper self defense laws. So he 606 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 13: sent it back. The judge concurred, and they call it 607 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 13: a motion to reman and then went back to the 608 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 13: grand jury, and he didn't give any instructions to the prosecutor. 609 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 13: He then takes it back to the grand jury. He 610 00:31:55,680 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 13: doesn't share the appropriate self defense laws. He doesn't show 611 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 13: the video that at this point we've had forensically enhanced 612 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 13: by the FBI from sixteen cameras in and around the building. 613 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 13: The entire thing was on incident. Doesn't show any of 614 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 13: that to the grand jury. Then it comes back, We 615 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 13: get the transcripts again and my attorney's like, why didn't 616 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 13: you cover this stuff? He goes, well, I don't think 617 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 13: it's a sculpatory. He goes, well, I think it is. 618 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 13: So it goes back to the grand jury again. The 619 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 13: judge sends it back again. He still doesn't follow the 620 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 13: judges instructions this time, so. 621 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 7: We do the same thing again. 622 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 13: The judge turns around and gets mad at em and says, 623 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 13: I'm sending it back again. The prosecutor gets upset and says, 624 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 13: I demand a preliminary hearing, which my attorney was like, awesome, 625 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 13: And for your audience if they don't know the difference 626 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 13: between the two, a preliminary hearing is a mini tribe 627 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 13: where the judge determines is their probable cause. We didn't 628 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 13: even have to put on any evidencettorney just played the 629 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 13: video to every one of those witnesses. They recanted their statement, 630 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 13: and at the end of it, of that six hour 631 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 13: preliminary hearing, the judge dismissed the entire case with prejudice, 632 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 13: and then five years later actually wrote an order saying 633 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 13: that I was wrongfully indicted or otherwise charged. 634 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 3: Goodness, wow, So for people who unfortunately their story drags 635 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 3: out longer, but yours as well. 636 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 5: I mean, it is incumbent upon. 637 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 3: You to pay the legal bills, to put the you know, 638 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 3: any type of court fees your attorney. Should there be 639 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 3: some type of laws, state, federal, otherwise that say, all right, 640 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 3: if you are wronged in a situation and it has 641 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 3: proven to be because you've got a prosecutor who maybe 642 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 3: had bad intentions in the case, that you should be 643 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 3: recompense for that. 644 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 7: Oh, most definitely. 645 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 13: I had the prosecutor on tape saying to my attorney, 646 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 13: I do not care what the law reads. 647 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 7: He could have come back with that gun up his 648 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 7: butt quote unquote. 649 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: Wow, it's amazing. 650 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 2: Before we let you go, Kevin, I want to talk 651 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 2: about something that the Justice Department recently did. The US 652 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 2: Justice Department Harmi Dylon, she was on our show, talked 653 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 2: about it. She's the assistant Attorney General for several rights. 654 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,800 Speaker 2: She has created a unit to make sure that Second 655 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 2: Amendment rights are infringed in states, particularly blue states, or 656 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 2: by prosecutors like the one that you just described. 657 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,240 Speaker 1: How important a move. 658 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 2: Is that, it says, as far as I can tell, 659 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 2: never been done before in the history of our country. 660 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 13: I think it's very important because over the past forty years, John, 661 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 13: the entire system has been turned upside down. You know, 662 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 13: my stepfather and my brother's dad woke him up in 663 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 13: nineteen sixty six at two am in the morning, said, 664 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,879 Speaker 13: come out here on the porch. He gets out there, 665 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 13: there's a dead man on the porch. He says, grab 666 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,399 Speaker 13: that hose and watch the ports off. The police pull 667 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 13: up ten minutes later and they walk up on the porch. 668 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 13: He goes, what happened here? My stepfather pointed to the 669 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 13: dead man and said, I ask him. He goes, I can't, 670 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 13: he's dead, And my stepfather goes, exactly, So. 671 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,280 Speaker 7: Everything I'm going to tell you is the truth. 672 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 13: Don't try to add anything to it or make it 673 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,320 Speaker 13: a crime that it's not. The man was breaking in 674 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 13: my house with my six children and my wife, and 675 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 13: I put two bullets in his chest. 676 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 3: Sir, before we let you go, I want to ask 677 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 3: you about the broader picture. In the broader conversation of 678 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 3: gun control, there is only one piece of wisdom that 679 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 3: our founding fathers gave us, one amendment that includes the 680 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,280 Speaker 3: words shall not be infringed. 681 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 5: Our founders were very serious about this. 682 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,720 Speaker 3: But every time there is a major shooting that catches 683 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 3: natural national intrigue, we hear about gun control. And the 684 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 3: first semiotic weapon was a rifle that was created in 685 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 3: eighteen eighty five. And it seems to me that unless 686 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 3: you can create a clear, concise delineation of increased crime 687 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 3: from that point on, the gun is not the problem. 688 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:57,800 Speaker 5: So what is the problem in this country? 689 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 7: The problem is is that. 690 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 13: People don't understand that there are consequences for your action, 691 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,439 Speaker 13: and too often people think that the police are there 692 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 13: to protect you. 693 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 7: That's not their job, all right. 694 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 13: By the time the police usually get there, the crime's 695 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,280 Speaker 13: already over with, the assault's already done, the rates happened, 696 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 13: the murder's over all right. It's up to each individual 697 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 13: to be able to protect their life, their liberty, and 698 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 13: their property. It's their family. It's absolutely crazy that you 699 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 13: have to go through these hoops to one get a 700 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 13: license if you're a legal citizen, two to have to 701 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 13: have a permit to even carry a weapon as long 702 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 13: as you're not deranged or anything. It just makes no 703 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 13: sense at all. You know what's funny is is we 704 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 13: didn't start having school shootings until the Senate put a 705 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,439 Speaker 13: bill forward that got passed that said the gun free 706 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 13: school zones. 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That's get natapath dot 749 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 2: com slash news. 750 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 5: Welcome back, everybody. 751 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 3: As we gather with our families to celebrate the Christmas holidays, 752 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 3: it is crucial to keep in mind how we can 753 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 3: protect ourselves and our elderly loved ones from one of 754 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 3: America's fastest growing crimes, home title theft. 755 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 5: This type of crime is alarmingly easy for. 756 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 3: Criminals to commit thanks to weak regulations nationwide. Victims and 757 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,839 Speaker 3: their families often find themselves picking up the pieces with 758 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 3: little to absolutely no help from the authorities. So joining 759 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 3: us now and Emmy and multi award winning news anchor 760 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 3: and investigative reporter who has recently been spending his time 761 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 3: researching the growing crime of home title theft, he is 762 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 3: John Summer. 763 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:46,879 Speaker 5: John, great to have you. 764 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 7: With us, Great to be with you, Amanda. 765 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 10: And by the way, I might first say, we have 766 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 10: this atmospheric river that's coming through the central coast of California. 767 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,320 Speaker 10: So if I lose power and internet, it's not my fault. 768 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 5: So good to know. We will blame mother nature. 769 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 3: And I'm praying that that does not happen for you, 770 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,319 Speaker 3: because that can be quite miserable, especially when you're on 771 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:07,760 Speaker 3: the coast. 772 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,319 Speaker 10: Well, let's start at the beginning with this story that 773 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 10: I want to tell you about today, Amanda. It involves 774 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 10: an elderly couple in Hawaii and the husband dies and 775 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:28,320 Speaker 10: the wife has Alzheimer's and dementia, and then the family 776 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,439 Speaker 10: wants to be able to sell her home and get 777 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,359 Speaker 10: custodian of her so that they can sell the home 778 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:38,919 Speaker 10: and pay for her care. As Alison Wonderland said, this 779 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 10: story just gets curiouser and curiouser because what happens next. 780 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 7: Once the family is. 781 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 10: Able to get guardianship for their mother, they begin to 782 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 10: sell the house. But in the meantime, within a week 783 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 10: or two, a bad guy actually forges the title because 784 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 10: he caught wind of this situation, and he sells the 785 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:09,919 Speaker 10: house to a hard loan company in Texas, which then 786 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 10: in turn sells the house themselves. 787 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 7: And these are the companies that. 788 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 10: Will give you, you know, uh, quick money to sell 789 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 10: the house, so it was easily accomplished. And then and 790 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 10: then of course the family finds out that this is 791 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 10: all going on and they are stuck and they end 792 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:32,280 Speaker 10: up in civil court because Amanda, Uh, that particular crime 793 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 10: I call it a crime, uh is not considered a 794 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 10: crime in a Hawaii. 795 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:38,839 Speaker 7: So uh, there you go. 796 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:43,359 Speaker 10: And oh, by the way, wants the the hard loan 797 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 10: company sells the house, it burns down, and the original 798 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:52,720 Speaker 10: guy that's told the title is arrested for a crime 799 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:54,400 Speaker 10: of insurance theft? 800 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 7: Does again mean where. 801 00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 3: That holy mackerel? I mean, like you said, curiouser and curious. 802 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,840 Speaker 3: So how is how and why is this not a 803 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 3: crime in Hawaii? 804 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 10: Well not just Hawaii, man, I mean many many states 805 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:14,320 Speaker 10: still consider title theft or deep theft or or house 806 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 10: stealing to be a crime. 807 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 7: They consider it to be civil. 808 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:22,720 Speaker 10: And then what happens is when somebody is is taken 809 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 10: by a thief stealing their house or the title. By 810 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 10: the way, it could just be open land. It doesn't 811 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 10: have to be a dwelling or anything like that. But 812 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 10: once they are taken, do they have to go through 813 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,880 Speaker 10: the civil system to be able to hire an attorney. 814 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 10: It is extremely expensive, it takes a very very long time, 815 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,879 Speaker 10: and you know, they may or may may not end 816 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 10: up with it because it passes through several hands. Some 817 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,360 Speaker 10: states now and some local law enforcement departments like the 818 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,320 Speaker 10: one that I work here with here on the central 819 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 10: coast of California with the DA's office, they do consider 820 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,799 Speaker 10: it a crime and they can arrest the person that 821 00:42:58,880 --> 00:42:59,720 Speaker 10: steals the title. 822 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,400 Speaker 3: So help me understand this, because we have been talking 823 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,359 Speaker 3: to you and folks at home title lock literally since 824 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 3: the beginning of this show years ago, and yet it 825 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,759 Speaker 3: still is not considered a crime. I don't know if 826 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 3: that is a legislative issue or what, but I mean 827 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,319 Speaker 3: that it is startling to me how long we've been 828 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 3: having this conversation, how long this crime has been accelerating, 829 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,799 Speaker 3: and yet, as you said, there are still so many 830 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,800 Speaker 3: states that don't even consider it a crime. 831 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,799 Speaker 10: Yeah, I know it's strange, but now they're starting to 832 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 10: get wind of it as being a very serious I 833 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 10: call it a crime because if you think about a 834 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 10: demand of your home or your property is the greatest 835 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 10: part of. 836 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 7: Your state, and if somebody's do that, then you're out 837 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 7: of luck. 838 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 10: And many of the elderly people are taken by this, 839 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 10: but it could be anybody anywhere. They do this crime 840 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,360 Speaker 10: on the internet. They use AI and they can steal 841 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 10: your property before you ever know it. 842 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 3: So talk to me about what people can do because 843 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,359 Speaker 3: Home Title has a really incredible process and I don't 844 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 3: want any of our audience to be stuck in the 845 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 3: situation like these people were where they really they had 846 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:07,880 Speaker 3: no recourse. 847 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't either, and that's why I work with 848 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,880 Speaker 10: this company called Home Title Lock, and you should go 849 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 10: to their website, home titlelock dot com. 850 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 7: And what they do, Amanda, is three things. 851 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 10: They monitor your title twenty four to seven, which you 852 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 10: can't do. Then they alert you if something fishy happens. 853 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 10: And then if for some reason the title does transfer 854 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 10: to a bad guy or it could be a criminal entity, 855 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 10: it doesn't have to be an individual, they will work 856 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 10: with you up to a million dollars to restore your. 857 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 7: Title in your good name. And you know it's just tough. 858 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,760 Speaker 10: If you don't have that kind of coverage, then you're 859 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 10: going to be out of luck. 860 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 7: And it's very inexpensive. Home Title Lock. 861 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,959 Speaker 10: Go on the website, check out the stories on there, 862 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,359 Speaker 10: like the one that I just told you, and you'll 863 00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 10: see just how vulnerable you are with this. 864 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:00,760 Speaker 7: Take it their crime. 865 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 5: It is. 866 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 3: And you know, I think, John, there are probably people 867 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 3: out there who they say, well, I don't have a 868 00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 3: lot of equity in my home. 869 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 5: My home's not worth that much. I'm not a target. 870 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 5: They don't discriminate, do they. 871 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 10: No, they don't, you know, because they may. I mean, 872 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 10: I've talked to criminals that have done this crime. They 873 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,400 Speaker 10: may not have a lot of equity, but that doesn't 874 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 10: make any difference because if somebody steals a title, they 875 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,440 Speaker 10: can cure the loan on it and then sell it. 876 00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 10: It's very easy to do and then they're gone before 877 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,719 Speaker 10: you even know it. And then you got to go 878 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 10: through the civil system in most places, and that is rough. 879 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,840 Speaker 10: So I would just recommend that your listeners and viewers 880 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 10: just take care of themselves and their property. It's not expensive, 881 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,680 Speaker 10: it's peace of mind. It's very simple to do. And 882 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 10: I believe Amanda that you have a code with just 883 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,880 Speaker 10: the news it's jg N and they can get a 884 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 10: free trial. Try it out and see for yourself. Don't 885 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 10: take my word for it. Do you your own due diligence. 886 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 10: But home title lock dot com. 887 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 3: It is and it's so easy, guys, and just think 888 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 3: about think about the risk to reward. You do not 889 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,320 Speaker 3: want to risk your life savings, your home, your sanity, 890 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 3: your mental health. 891 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 5: It is just not worth it these days. 892 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,360 Speaker 3: Amy, and multi award winning news anchor and investigative reporter 893 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,680 Speaker 3: John Summer, thanks so much for joining us in Merry 894 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:22,359 Speaker 3: Christmas to. 895 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,640 Speaker 10: You, Happy New Year to you, Amanda, take care Sara, 896 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,560 Speaker 10: John you I sure well. 897 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,359 Speaker 3: And to our viewers, if you'd like to protect your home, 898 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,239 Speaker 3: go to home title lock dot com and yes, use 899 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 3: that promo code jt N to get a title history 900 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 3: report and a free trial of their triple lock protection. 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Get ahead of this before it becomes 920 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:37,760 Speaker 2: front page news. 921 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,799 Speaker 5: Welcome back everybody. Merry Christmas Eve Eve to all of you. John. 922 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 5: As you know, I am here in Canada, and I took. 923 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,920 Speaker 3: A little field trip into the men's bathroom when I 924 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 3: was at Richardson International Airport here in Winnipeg. Let me 925 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,520 Speaker 3: show it, hi, guys, I am Winnipeg's Richardson Airport. 926 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 14: You can tell him in Canada by the tamportons. And 927 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 14: you know, I just thought that I would identify as a. 928 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:08,320 Speaker 5: Man for a moment. 929 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:09,680 Speaker 14: So I'm just going to take a little tour in 930 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:13,359 Speaker 14: here and see what I can find, because you never 931 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:21,279 Speaker 14: know what you're going to find in a men's bathroom. Yes, 932 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:30,680 Speaker 14: those would be maxipad and tampon symbols in the men's bathroom. 933 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 3: So John, my dear sweet father in law, thought I 934 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,480 Speaker 3: was absolutely crazy. He's the one who did recon work 935 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,080 Speaker 3: for me in the case the joint to make sure 936 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,759 Speaker 3: there were no men in there beforehand. But John's something 937 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,719 Speaker 3: I noticed the last time we were here in Winnipeg, 938 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,799 Speaker 3: on the bathroom counters in the men's room, they had 939 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:50,279 Speaker 3: a basket of tampon's and my husband, the very good husband. 940 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 5: That he has dumped the entire basket into the trash. 941 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 3: And I guess he was not the only one, because 942 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 3: now they are locked up in a dispenser. 943 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:56,360 Speaker 5: We're winning. 944 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 2: Well, I'll like a I think is Tom Waltz must 945 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:02,839 Speaker 2: have been in that or Tim Waltz must have been 946 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 2: in that bathroom. But I don't know, I know what 947 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,960 Speaker 2: to say, Canada, Minnesota. Maybe it's the weather. I don't know. 948 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,880 Speaker 3: Yep, absolutely all right, John, thirty seconds, what are your 949 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 3: Christmas Eve traditions that you'll be doing tomorrow. 950 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,919 Speaker 2: We do a lot of baking on Christmas a day 951 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 2: Christmas Eve, and then we share in that and bring 952 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:22,920 Speaker 2: it over to neighbors, and we always stop at the 953 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,759 Speaker 2: homeless shelter and drop off some great gifts of a 954 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,759 Speaker 2: reminder to our family of how lucky we are and 955 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:29,719 Speaker 2: how create it is to help other. 956 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 1: So that's our Christmas Eve. How about you? 957 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:33,879 Speaker 5: We same thing. 958 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:35,520 Speaker 3: A lot of cooking, We go to the candle light 959 00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,319 Speaker 3: service at our church, and then we come home and. 960 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,960 Speaker 5: We eat Chinese food. It's one of my favorite Christmas 961 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:42,040 Speaker 5: traditions that I have adopted. 962 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,080 Speaker 1: A lot of people do that, I know, I've heard 963 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:44,880 Speaker 1: a lot of people do it. 964 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:46,799 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's a lot of fun. I think 965 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:48,280 Speaker 5: it's a middnight thing anyway. 966 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,759 Speaker 3: All right, everybody, Merry Christmas Eve Eve to all of you, 967 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:52,759 Speaker 3: and to you John as well, and we will see 968 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,280 Speaker 3: you tomorrow night at six pm Eastern. 969 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 5: Humprey Night.