Speaker 1: He laugh. If you watch Coffee Time, the baby you
Speaker 1: know the name flame, my role also known as my
Speaker 1: role Flame. Come in with last and come in with
Speaker 1: don love Lunds. Baby, you better catch it when you
Speaker 1: can't drop a knowledge from Fatherhood of politics shouting now
Speaker 1: comics just paying homics. What's up? Tip? Yeah you know
Speaker 1: she raped shot towns On speaking to the grown a second.
Speaker 1: We're gonna last cut of the kicking and at the
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Speaker 1: if you want to revisit, so your first like a listen,
Speaker 1: young folks like it's lip all folks that we dig it.
Speaker 1: No do what you do? Nokis do what you do?
Speaker 1: No kids do what I do? No kid. Hey, welcome
Speaker 1: to laugh and learn. I am your host, a beautiful
Speaker 1: co host, the one and only. Who is this Lauren
Speaker 1: Hogan looking lovely today? Hello, every Indian Ish? Are you
Speaker 1: celebrating Halloween as an indigenous woman? I'm actually indigenous? Like
Speaker 1: that's like that's part of my so that that coming
Speaker 1: out y'all can't see. Got the center part in her
Speaker 1: head to the side. She looks very Poka hunt is Keisha?
Speaker 1: So polka Keisha. Yes, that's my other traits coming out.
Speaker 1: That's my background. So that's what you're getting today. So
Speaker 1: there's no makeup. What's today, Wednesday, Tuesday, Tuesday, whatever it is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the day is Tuesday. It's the week of Thanksgiving. Loranjgan.
Speaker 1: Are you ready for the holiday? You got your turkey stuff?
Speaker 1: You know, I don't eat turkey. Look, you don't eat
Speaker 1: I do not eat turkey. I had a bad experience
Speaker 1: as a child, and I do not eat turkey. Turkey
Speaker 1: Turkey is really good. I don't like the texture. I
Speaker 1: can't get with it. And I think I had turkey
Speaker 1: one year at Marie Calendars because like my dad was
Speaker 1: always in the fire station, so we would always go
Speaker 1: to the fire station to celebrate Thanksgiving. I had some
Speaker 1: Marie Calendars turkey. I think he was a fried turkey
Speaker 1: and I was so sick. So it ain't for me.
Speaker 1: You didn't have you didn't experience the real turkey with
Speaker 1: the black people with dressing, because you have to be
Speaker 1: right if because you know, I left to go on
Speaker 1: vacation and left my kids, but I ordered them dinner
Speaker 1: from Vaughns and my son is a huge dressing fanatic.
Speaker 1: But the dinner from Barns come with a turkey, mastrotatus,
Speaker 1: corn and stuffing. He said, it's this dressing. I said,
Speaker 1: absolutely not, it is white folks, because black folks make dressing. Now,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. I just had a bad experience
Speaker 1: and I haven't been able to come back. I get
Speaker 1: PTSD every time I see a turkey. So you know,
Speaker 1: we'll be frying chicken in my house for Thanksgiving. That's
Speaker 1: what we do. Yes, well, Happy Thanksgiving to all the
Speaker 1: flame man's and everyone out there in my heart Black
Speaker 1: Effect network land because this is Thanksgiving week. Save travels
Speaker 1: wherever you're going. But let's get it cracking back and
Speaker 1: attacking on where we're going because you're taking the lead.
Speaker 1: You you the top today I'm the bottom. I didn't
Speaker 1: know that with the day that I had, I don't
Speaker 1: know have the energy to do that. Wait a minute,
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. Get your straps to you the top. Now,
Speaker 1: where we're going on? I think we should start off with, um,
Speaker 1: kind of the unfortunate events that have happened in the news,
Speaker 1: and then we can kind of shift to some of
Speaker 1: the funny and then get into politics. UM. But first
Speaker 1: and foremost, UM, we wanted to talk about Colorado Springs
Speaker 1: and send all of our prayers and condolences out to
Speaker 1: those that lost their lives. Um, those family members, those
Speaker 1: that are injured and are currently still in the hospital. Um,
Speaker 1: it's just another act of senseless violence and proof that
Speaker 1: we need more restrictive gun laws in this country and
Speaker 1: that um, you know, level of violence and the hatred
Speaker 1: that has just kind of erupted. I think over these
Speaker 1: past what six years now, it's just it's continuing to
Speaker 1: be at all time high and it's just unnecessary. So, UM, yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree with you. Going to pray us to all
Speaker 1: involved in prayers to not only the victims and the
Speaker 1: people of the family, but to the heroes that the
Speaker 1: stands to stand up and take the time to fight back.
Speaker 1: Sometimes that's what we have to do. And when I
Speaker 1: talked about this on my coffee time the other morning,
Speaker 1: I said, I bet you the person that fallback was
Speaker 1: either a drag queen or a trans woman, because baby,
Speaker 1: we do not man using the aggression and fighting back.
Speaker 1: They said. The queen stumped at y'all all, in his face,
Speaker 1: in his head. He couldn't even go to court the
Speaker 1: next day. He was so damaged and I love that
Speaker 1: the man who was an ex military said he went
Speaker 1: into ex combat mode. I'm not agreeing with that. He
Speaker 1: went into daddy mode. His daughter had gotten shot. That
Speaker 1: was me. If your your dad, Lauren, he may have
Speaker 1: been an ex military, but when you see your child,
Speaker 1: you go into daddy mode. I hate that that happened,
Speaker 1: and I believe that when all of dust clears and
Speaker 1: the smoke settles, the killer is probably something self loathing
Speaker 1: homosexual who couldn't deal with how he felt. He was
Speaker 1: very he was not. I'm not gonna say he was
Speaker 1: unattractive in the face, but his body was unattractive as
Speaker 1: far as what beauty morphea goes. He wasn't the prettiest
Speaker 1: to look at, and he probably just hated who he
Speaker 1: was and couldn't deal with it. But I fought law enforcement, Lauren,
Speaker 1: because a year ago this fool said he was gonna
Speaker 1: blow up his own mama. They got it all on
Speaker 1: tape and everything, and then y'all allow him to get
Speaker 1: a weapon talking about it wasn't on paper, but Loring,
Speaker 1: that's a black person in this country. If I went
Speaker 1: to go get an a R fifteen and I had
Speaker 1: a clean wrecking me. Aaron Do producer who's on here,
Speaker 1: was just talking about that girl. They would give me
Speaker 1: every hiccup and and railroad and go through the back
Speaker 1: door and count the marbles in the job they could.
Speaker 1: That's why you know things ain't change. They need to
Speaker 1: charge all the people in lawenforce because there there's no
Speaker 1: way this could have been avoided. And I think it's
Speaker 1: also interesting too. I'm gonna just draw comparison. So this
Speaker 1: happened now almost two days ago. We still have yet
Speaker 1: to see a photo of this gunman. We haven't somebody
Speaker 1: if it was somebody black and brown, splatted all over
Speaker 1: the news. Well that's what I'm saying, because just the
Speaker 1: previous week, you know, there was a young black man
Speaker 1: that did you know, kill three young students at the
Speaker 1: University of Virginia, I believe um, and his face was
Speaker 1: plastered all over the news as soon as soon as
Speaker 1: the rest was made, it was plastered all over the news.
Speaker 1: And we still have vant to see what this individual
Speaker 1: looks like. And it's been forty eight hours. So it's
Speaker 1: just always interesting, you know what the narrative is, how
Speaker 1: you know, how things come out when it's one of
Speaker 1: us versus um and the killer is he's the nephew
Speaker 1: of a California is it a congressman or a statesman
Speaker 1: and something. He's a nephew of somebody. Yeah, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I can't think of the name. But he's a nephew
Speaker 1: of one of the of sitting congressman too. Well, that
Speaker 1: might really be why we haven't seen his face yet
Speaker 1: because apparent apparently he changed his name and then they're
Speaker 1: trying to say that that's part of the reason why
Speaker 1: they couldn't figure out who he really was and the
Speaker 1: previous threat because he changed his name. It's just the
Speaker 1: I don't understand all of the we have to tell
Speaker 1: you the story and give you this background. Bottom line
Speaker 1: is he shot and he killed five people and he
Speaker 1: injured almost thirty. So I don't understand what we need
Speaker 1: all this narrative for the facts, for the facts. So
Speaker 1: I hope they definitely taught him with a hey, cra
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you long we've been talking. We did
Speaker 1: a whole episode on this. Y'all. Keep giving cowards guns.
Speaker 1: Guns don't mix. The corilege is not to pull the trigger,
Speaker 1: and the courage is to not pull the trigger because
Speaker 1: you're not getting the gun to kill people. You're getting
Speaker 1: the gun to make sure nobody hurts you. But people
Speaker 1: keep getting guns for the wrong reasons. Yeah, you're absolutely right.
Speaker 1: So and I also saw the interview that um, this
Speaker 1: young black gentleman did and was talking about just how
Speaker 1: what the atmosphere was and what Club Q represented to
Speaker 1: the community. It was really a safe space for the
Speaker 1: l g bt Q community in Colorado Springs. And he
Speaker 1: was just heartbroken and just was saying that we don't
Speaker 1: have a space like this was our space and it's
Speaker 1: just been you know, ruined. So and it was so tragic, Lauren,
Speaker 1: because it was the night before the Transgender Day of Remembrance.
Speaker 1: And but I love that the trans started with Marsha
Speaker 1: and Marsha P. Johnson was the blueprint for being the
Speaker 1: queen that's gonna take it down. Amen to Marsha P. Johnson.
Speaker 1: Makes you rest in peace because this is the only
Speaker 1: thing that they're going to understand that we don't stand
Speaker 1: up and fight back, they're gonna continue to bulldose us.
Speaker 1: I will not be bulldozed. I'm glad that I don't
Speaker 1: have to work in the space of working in clubs
Speaker 1: like that. But you never not where it's going to happen.
Speaker 1: I did dragon shows for a living. I never thought
Speaker 1: about nobody coming in shooting out the place. And I'm
Speaker 1: too busy trying to entertain and make money. It is,
Speaker 1: it is, But it's hate and rage from social media
Speaker 1: platforms Twitter and and stuff like that, and people pushing
Speaker 1: crazy narratives. But I'm dying to know the if we
Speaker 1: ever know, because like you said, we ain't even see
Speaker 1: his face, if we ever know the reason of why
Speaker 1: and and and how and what? What? What was your reasoning?
Speaker 1: Because nothing that has ever come out ridiculous. And then
Speaker 1: another another it's exhausting. Oh yeah, and another um situation
Speaker 1: that we wanted to extend our condolences to is Um
Speaker 1: Sinquala Robinson. I'm happy to see that more details are
Speaker 1: starting to come out about her case, because you know,
Speaker 1: initially they just tried to say that she died from
Speaker 1: alcohol poisoning. There's a video of her being beaten up
Speaker 1: by two of her so called friends. That's another reason
Speaker 1: why you gotta be careful with that video setting set
Speaker 1: on my spirit. Louren and just I wanted to go
Speaker 1: through the damn phone, like I was so angry I
Speaker 1: don't know none of these people, but I want everybody charged.
Speaker 1: And like they did was with McBee, with the mcbabe,
Speaker 1: the guy who videotape, they charged his ass to whoever.
Speaker 1: The guy who was videotaping, that should be charged, the
Speaker 1: girls that was involved, and they should all be charged
Speaker 1: it is. And then they made the whole clickbait like
Speaker 1: it was a trans woman. It was a whole man.
Speaker 1: They are distracting from what really happened. But when I
Speaker 1: saw the father's video, the breakdown of him his daughter,
Speaker 1: as a dad who has daughters, I went right there
Speaker 1: to the pain where he was at, like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I can only imagine and I don't want to imagine
Speaker 1: that it was. It was disheartening. Lord. And and these
Speaker 1: people here, so called friends, and supposedly from what I
Speaker 1: ran somewhere, she paid for all of them to come.
Speaker 1: What kind of rage and jealousy and hate and bitterness
Speaker 1: is that? I couldn't even tell you. But that's why
Speaker 1: you gotta be careful about who you call your friends.
Speaker 1: You gotta be more careful about who you travel internationally with.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. You can't trust everybody, And honestly, I just
Speaker 1: can't imagine the fact of going on a trip feeling
Speaker 1: like you're comfortable to have a good time and you
Speaker 1: get jumped while intoxicated and ultimately beaten to death. I
Speaker 1: I can't imagine. I can't imagine that at all. I
Speaker 1: think Tims reported that when the doctor showed up, she
Speaker 1: wasn't deed. When the doctor three hours and she did,
Speaker 1: that is just suffrage and pain. And I learned. I'm
Speaker 1: telling I'm every time you think you can't hear anything
Speaker 1: that would shock you more, you always shoot something that
Speaker 1: shocks you more. You just out to be careful who
Speaker 1: you hang around and who you keep in your space.
Speaker 1: Everybody ain't your friend, and more people are jealous of
Speaker 1: you than you realize. I will definitely say that. So
Speaker 1: I really hope that everybody involved is charged and put
Speaker 1: behind bars, and I hope that they continue to investigate
Speaker 1: the situation and actually, um the truth prevails and those
Speaker 1: that harm to this girl are just locked up. And
Speaker 1: I hope they put it in a foreign prieston because
Speaker 1: foreign prisons ain't like American priestons. I hope they don't
Speaker 1: want them. Dirty, dark dungeon, deep doge written rent roading
Speaker 1: and look at me I'm just oh, just grammy, Yes,
Speaker 1: the worst of the worst, because it was it was
Speaker 1: just it's hardening to think that y'all went all the
Speaker 1: way over there to do something like this to somebody
Speaker 1: who y'all considered a friend. And y'all, what kind of
Speaker 1: drugs was y'all know, I'm starting to think that everybody
Speaker 1: that was involved was on something comes kind of drug
Speaker 1: or something. I don't even know if it's drugs. I'm
Speaker 1: hout to Jealousy is a hell of a drug. Let
Speaker 1: me just say that. So I don't know what the
Speaker 1: circumstances were, but that's just a lot of rage and
Speaker 1: hate and jealousy to be in your spirit to do
Speaker 1: that to somebody. That's all I'm saying. It is it
Speaker 1: is who that hurt, and that hurt and then and
Speaker 1: then it's us. It was it was us. And when
Speaker 1: I say that's something about black folks, it was us. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: doing it to us. And I do want to say
Speaker 1: a big shout out to Kyrie Irving. He donated sixty
Speaker 1: dollars to her go fund me to make so he
Speaker 1: really he helped her family like significantly. You know, despite
Speaker 1: all of the craziness, you know and ridiculousness. I will
Speaker 1: say that he has going on unnecessarily. Once again, he's
Speaker 1: showing the fact that he's a humanitarian at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, so special shout out to him for
Speaker 1: helping out that family and donated so much money. I love.
Speaker 1: I love that about Carrie Irving. I hate to wrap
Speaker 1: that he got and I love that he had stood
Speaker 1: in his conviction and cut the cords because cutting them
Speaker 1: cords will set you free anybody, also for you from
Speaker 1: some jobs, and don't I know that firsthand, But cutting
Speaker 1: the chords will make you feel good about you. And
Speaker 1: I mean, and if we're gonna talk about him a
Speaker 1: little bit more, UM, I was so happy to see
Speaker 1: all of his Black Hebrew brethren outside of Our Place
Speaker 1: Center supporting him in the ice cold weather of New
Speaker 1: York City on his return to UM his first Nets
Speaker 1: game since his suspension. So I love to see that
Speaker 1: he's getting support too, because he deserves it. So anyway,
Speaker 1: if we could just get rid of this great divad
Speaker 1: and be together as one, we could be such a
Speaker 1: strong group of people. But good God, they bank on
Speaker 1: us being separate away from each other, and and what
Speaker 1: is it thiscombobulated with this the color black and that
Speaker 1: color black and this kind of black and that kind
Speaker 1: of black, and oh my god, Jesus, I'm a black
Speaker 1: Berrick And I was telling Aaron that I am. And
Speaker 1: and you know, Aaron sent me a video. Aaron is
Speaker 1: that producing who We're gonna make a part of the
Speaker 1: show because he's exceptionally intelligent, But he sent me a
Speaker 1: video about how we should cancel Thanksgiving and I just
Speaker 1: was explained to him, as a black American that was
Speaker 1: born in the United States, culturally, that's what we would
Speaker 1: talking to the stuff that we know. We were raised
Speaker 1: up on that, so that is what we know. Traditionally,
Speaker 1: there's nobody around from the sixteen seventeen hundreds to tell
Speaker 1: us what we were before they brought us over here
Speaker 1: in chains or how we you know, what we would do.
Speaker 1: And I know there are some authorities on it, but
Speaker 1: they not They weren't around me, and hopefully they got
Speaker 1: it right. But that's what we know. And I'm not
Speaker 1: going to discredit that it might be right or wrong.
Speaker 1: But as born in America, raised in America, and raised
Speaker 1: with those Fourth of July and Thanksgiving and create that's
Speaker 1: what we know, because that's the Americans that we are.
Speaker 1: If that makes well well for um. For me, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna just say I ain't celebrated Fourth July, like maybe
Speaker 1: when I was younger, Like I think your parents want
Speaker 1: you to get into like the festive things around it,
Speaker 1: but I would say probably by the time I turned
Speaker 1: like thirteen, Like my mom was like, Okay, that was
Speaker 1: cute when you was like little, but we're not doing
Speaker 1: that no more. Same thing my mom told me Santa
Speaker 1: Claus wasn't real when I was five, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So my mom was that ball buster for
Speaker 1: lack of a better word, like, and she gave us
Speaker 1: the truth, you know what I mean. And even with Thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: we never celebrated things giving. We just got a really
Speaker 1: good meal. But she always explained the fact of how
Speaker 1: what really happened, because you know, my ancestors are Native American,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So she explained how the
Speaker 1: fact that this wasn't a feast, that it was you know,
Speaker 1: rape pillage, and that these white folks brought you know,
Speaker 1: disease and killed us, killed you know, your ancestors at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, but tried to act like
Speaker 1: it was a festive celebration, and that's not what it was.
Speaker 1: So I think that's when we kind of go back to,
Speaker 1: like when we talk about, you know, your riots and
Speaker 1: things like that, because you need people to kind of
Speaker 1: tell you what your past and history is. So my
Speaker 1: mom was kind of that for me, and my dad
Speaker 1: always just kind of co signed it and kind of
Speaker 1: gave me more of the raw and cut version of
Speaker 1: what my mom was saying. Anyway, So they were very
Speaker 1: honest with me, I think at a young age, and
Speaker 1: that's part of the reason why, you know, my mouth
Speaker 1: is a little more kurt these days anyway. But she
Speaker 1: explained that to me, you know, so she always basically
Speaker 1: debunked what I might have learned in school or the
Speaker 1: Western European version of Valerie. My mama didn't tell me
Speaker 1: that Sunding War real. But my stepdaddy dressed up at
Speaker 1: Santa when I was seven years old, and I caught
Speaker 1: him and my mom in the kitchen in the living
Speaker 1: room and they they wasn't wrapping pressures. Santa was still
Speaker 1: they hit you get busy. I said, that's saying I
Speaker 1: ate the same Santa every bringing me gift. Listen, Dowery
Speaker 1: was trying to make sure you got some good gifts.
Speaker 1: You better go back and thank her. She's trying to
Speaker 1: make sure you had good gift. She went the extra mile.
Speaker 1: Is doing it to my mama. This is laughing. They
Speaker 1: laugh with us. So in the in the Current News,
Speaker 1: Lauren Hogan yesterday, apparently allegedly Mr August Elsina said he
Speaker 1: found love that he wasn't even expecting or looking for,
Speaker 1: and he invited his new love to come and sit
Speaker 1: with him on the on the on the stage, and
Speaker 1: his new love was the guy. Oh okay, that's what
Speaker 1: I said, lawing everybody up. And I was like, I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm like, I'm like, maybe he trying something else.
Speaker 1: Love is love and if you know, that's where you
Speaker 1: found love, because I think he's been through a lot
Speaker 1: of trauma in his life. So wherever he finds love,
Speaker 1: piece of blessings to him. For sure, he's been through
Speaker 1: a lot in his life. So if you found loving
Speaker 1: a man, we are happy for you. August. Be happy
Speaker 1: to be married, Be joyful, be fruitful, and multiplayer damn
Speaker 1: might not be in the multiplayer, um, But I want
Speaker 1: to switch back to the topic of injustice. A little bit.
Speaker 1: So yesterday Um Todd and his wife Julie Cristle were sentenced. Well,
Speaker 1: tyd was sentenced to twelve years in prison. Julia was
Speaker 1: sentenced to seven for whatever part they played in their
Speaker 1: bank and wired fraud scheme. Um, I think that the
Speaker 1: sentence is a bit excessant, and I find it interesting
Speaker 1: that that's what they got. But um, what do you think? Well?
Speaker 1: I think that well, so allegedly the story is the
Speaker 1: reason they got caught was because Ty Christy supposed his
Speaker 1: business partner and him and him had some kind of
Speaker 1: gay love affair on the load, that is what the
Speaker 1: tabloids are reporting, and something went south and the boyfriend
Speaker 1: was a scorn partner and told the dirt. Now I
Speaker 1: hope the wife was involved in and she was just
Speaker 1: part of it. But she's doing seven years and the
Speaker 1: women's penitentiary. But she damned she pretty straight. Ty Chrisley
Speaker 1: is suspect always. He might Christly know it has been,
Speaker 1: but Christie about to know penis because baby, they sent
Speaker 1: him to a man spen intentiary twelve years. It might
Speaker 1: not be twelve years of slave, but he might be
Speaker 1: twelve years of made good. God, they're gonna have their
Speaker 1: wait with you tired, Christie. Well, I think he's going
Speaker 1: to a federal prison, so I'm hoping, you know. And
Speaker 1: to me, I thought he was reckless with some of
Speaker 1: the things that they posted that he was supposedly doing,
Speaker 1: like flammed to l A every two weeks just to
Speaker 1: get a hair cut and something, you know, on on
Speaker 1: somebody else's money. Some things you almost look like you
Speaker 1: don't want to get caught, but you're asking to be
Speaker 1: caught because you just do a ridiculous ship, right. But
Speaker 1: I mean, like, we don't know the real truth because
Speaker 1: I know that their defense was whoever this the person was,
Speaker 1: their ex business partner, had a lot of shady dealings
Speaker 1: and um, it wasn't their fault, That's what they were saying.
Speaker 1: So I don't know what the actual story is. I'm
Speaker 1: just more so sad for their kids one and also
Speaker 1: to for that beautiful grand baby that they haven't they've
Speaker 1: been raising, because what gonna happen to her now, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? So, and I just think it's
Speaker 1: interesting because he's I think between the two of them,
Speaker 1: they've been real advocates for the black community. Considering that
Speaker 1: they have a daughter because they were getting a lot
Speaker 1: of backlash and hate speech from other people for having it,
Speaker 1: you know, a black granddaughter, and he was supporting her.
Speaker 1: I saw his interview that he did with tamer Hall
Speaker 1: what and was talking about how he doesn't allow that
Speaker 1: for for people to come for his you know, his granddaughter.
Speaker 1: So it's just interesting that, you know, despite their transgressions,
Speaker 1: you know, it's still it wasn't enough, all the good
Speaker 1: that they've done wasn't enough to either give them a
Speaker 1: little sentence or you know, keep them out of jail.
Speaker 1: Of picks and chooses who they want to arrest for
Speaker 1: tax of asion, because sure, j for all those years
Speaker 1: for tax of asient, Donald Trump has been caught reinhanded
Speaker 1: without paying texts y'all A did nothing, but y'all he's
Speaker 1: still y'all. Stewart to jail, she came out, became more
Speaker 1: of a mobile. It is. It is who sketchy to
Speaker 1: say the least, because how long did Mark Stewart go
Speaker 1: to She was in there for like maybe three months,
Speaker 1: four months like that. And I guess that's maybe what
Speaker 1: I was expecting for them to to get twelve years,
Speaker 1: like that's a lot. I wondered, does it depend on
Speaker 1: how they like you or not or how you you know, Well,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, is like they're being outspoken, you
Speaker 1: know about you know, supporting the black community and all
Speaker 1: of that. Did that working against them? And I like
Speaker 1: that show. I really did. Like Christie knows best. I
Speaker 1: didn't know. I'm still watching shooting. Nanny Kaye was my
Speaker 1: favorite character. She was either drunk, wanted to get drunk,
Speaker 1: or you know, she was talking about her little sexual inuit.
Speaker 1: Am I trying to get a free calm? She surely was.
Speaker 1: She was calling herself a prostitute, but couldn't say the
Speaker 1: words right. I love Nanny Fay. So I'm just sad that,
Speaker 1: you know, their family has been affected by this, because
Speaker 1: I hope it doesn't affect their other assets and then
Speaker 1: the kids can't support themselves. Like there's there's always a
Speaker 1: ripple effect. Everybody gonna have to get a job. Everybody's
Speaker 1: gonna be working at chick They looked like Chick fil
Speaker 1: A workers all the period. They look like blond allbody
Speaker 1: who work at Chickfilate with blonde and white is so racy.
Speaker 1: I love Chick fil A for the record, I still
Speaker 1: they got the best prize and they have the best
Speaker 1: chicken sandwiches. So when people be times down, oh, they
Speaker 1: don't mess with the gays. I've never been to not
Speaker 1: one Chick fil A and the person who comes to
Speaker 1: the register is as gay as Peter Pan and some
Speaker 1: Ice Gates and some Wayne's. Good God, listen, people said
Speaker 1: that all the time. You know that the sea doesn't
Speaker 1: support the gay people, the gay community, and I go,
Speaker 1: I go to the Chick fil A's that are standalones
Speaker 1: that certain people ownt so that that that's my excuse.
Speaker 1: I love Chick fil A. But um, saying all that
Speaker 1: to say prayers to their family, I hope that, um,
Speaker 1: you know, they're able to rebuild after this. Like you said,
Speaker 1: it might be a market Stewart situation when they come
Speaker 1: out there even more famous than before. But I'm so
Speaker 1: sorry that their families are being torn apart right before
Speaker 1: the holidays. It's just so sad. They said they're gonna
Speaker 1: get their time, Lord, and you're gonna let them. Yes
Speaker 1: they did. They said they are going to get their time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So it's just so unfortunate. But officially switched the politics.
Speaker 1: Elon Musk, who has a quiet Twitter has allowed Marjorie
Speaker 1: Taylor Green, Donald Trump, and Kanye West all to be
Speaker 1: come back on Twitter. Now. Donald Trump said he wasn't
Speaker 1: coming back home unless he gets some kind of big players.
Speaker 1: Now you know that's the script anyway. But Marjorie Chayler
Speaker 1: Green is on and on the rampage and talking about
Speaker 1: what she is looking for freedom of speech and woo
Speaker 1: woo woo. It's just you know what. And Kanye West
Speaker 1: said he was running for president. Uh, don't rougher president
Speaker 1: player rough an institution of the help. Yeah. Well, first
Speaker 1: and foremost, I think Twitter as a whole is interesting.
Speaker 1: Now I think Elon Musk has ruined it. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: they had a great resignation at the top of this week.
Speaker 1: A lot of people just resigned because they just didn't appreciate,
Speaker 1: you know, the new rules and regulations that he was
Speaker 1: putting in place. And his response to it is we're
Speaker 1: still trending. His Twitter ended up being a trending topic
Speaker 1: of all these employees resigning, and he made it seem
Speaker 1: like it was this great thing because they were just
Speaker 1: a trending topic. So and in addition to that, the
Speaker 1: N word has been um. The usage of it on
Speaker 1: the platform was up. So everybody that wanted to say
Speaker 1: it before and couldn't because Jack Dorsey was CEO is
Speaker 1: now exercising their right to be racist on full display
Speaker 1: and in public. So yeah, fool voice. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I was only on Twitter for one reason and one
Speaker 1: reason only, but for the point a lot now because
Speaker 1: of all the different rules. Right with the point, they're
Speaker 1: taking a point to some other site because the rules
Speaker 1: have changed. But I saw the elon must they said
Speaker 1: proposed he lost a hundred billion dollars this year because
Speaker 1: of his Tesla sales. His stock has went down or
Speaker 1: something because it's too many extra career. Yeah, he his
Speaker 1: UM former employees. UM basically developed a lawsuit against him.
Speaker 1: He was in court last week about it too. I
Speaker 1: don't know what if there was any official ruling or
Speaker 1: movement on the case, but he's got quite a few
Speaker 1: lossuits against him from former employees. So yeah, Jesus, Loan Hogan,
Speaker 1: what we what else gonna do? Lord? What us gonna do?
Speaker 1: Lauren Hogan, I don't know. I'm at this point. I
Speaker 1: just feel like it's safe for me just to stay
Speaker 1: in my house. That's all I'm starting to feel with
Speaker 1: all of the hatred and the violence and just the
Speaker 1: ankst and anxiety that's out in the world. I want
Speaker 1: to be in my own space, with my own energy.
Speaker 1: You worked for that pretty big organization that's involved with
Speaker 1: a lot of LGBT issues. Have you noticed anything anything
Speaker 1: different in the office workplace when you go into the office,
Speaker 1: because I know you work from home a lot, but
Speaker 1: when you go into the office, have you is the
Speaker 1: temperament different? Have you have you noticed anything different? I
Speaker 1: think everybody's anxiety is a little heightened. Um. I personally
Speaker 1: don't like going into the office because it brings my
Speaker 1: anxiety up. It feels like, um, a lot of people
Speaker 1: are just kind of at me. But that's kind of
Speaker 1: like my own thing. But at times like this, especially
Speaker 1: like it's always just somber, like people are just sad,
Speaker 1: you know, on the brink of another shooting happening, you know,
Speaker 1: against LGBTQ community, because a lot of people in my
Speaker 1: office are from that community, you know, So it's sadness.
Speaker 1: You know, it's very melancholy, like you can feel the
Speaker 1: mood shift and change. Um, So it's just hard like that.
Speaker 1: I was in office today and the mood was just
Speaker 1: it was you know what I mean, My fear of
Speaker 1: what happened in Colorado Springs, that club q UM Colorado,
Speaker 1: Claro Springs, Colorado, is that the domino effect, the copy
Speaker 1: kept back. So once person saw there, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: now I'm going to do it. I have so many sisters, gay,
Speaker 1: trans men and trans women, sisters that work in gay clubs,
Speaker 1: doing drag shows or bartenders or have you. They don't
Speaker 1: go into work on high alert thinking that's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: But now the fear might be that this is what's
Speaker 1: going to happen, so they might lose that job because
Speaker 1: they're afraid to go to work. That is how Nancy Pelosi.
Speaker 1: I believe they scared Nancy Pelosi because they tried to
Speaker 1: kill this woman, which is why she stepped down and
Speaker 1: speak early house. I think the fear that they and
Speaker 1: still fear in you by doing something crazy and then
Speaker 1: it works. Well, not just that, you know, they're also
Speaker 1: being attacked from a political standpoint, because you know, some
Speaker 1: congressmen were trying to get drag shows banned, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I know we talked about that, I
Speaker 1: think early or in the season, but the topic has
Speaker 1: like come back around, especially since the Republicans have officially
Speaker 1: taken over the House again. So it's too basically to
Speaker 1: have a certain you know community, like, you know, black folks,
Speaker 1: we've been under attack since the the founding of America,
Speaker 1: but you know, to be continually targeted, not only by
Speaker 1: the crazy people, but then incited said hate that you
Speaker 1: have in your heart is incited on a political scale too.
Speaker 1: It's almost like what do you expect to happen? You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? It's like you've got politicians giving
Speaker 1: these crazy people carte blanche to go in, you know,
Speaker 1: mess with these people in these you know communities. It's
Speaker 1: not just black folks. It's not just you know LGBC
Speaker 1: H community. We saw what happened with Donald Trump and
Speaker 1: blomen Asians for the UM for COVID and the coronavirus. Now,
Speaker 1: mind you, all of these other communities you know, get
Speaker 1: reparations a lot faster than Black people do. But it's
Speaker 1: just like, what do you expect to happen? And then
Speaker 1: when we ask you guys to create gun laws and
Speaker 1: gun reform, y'all don't want to do it. So it's
Speaker 1: almost so what other message are you sending to these
Speaker 1: crazy people other than go do that, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like, it's not rocket science, you know, but
Speaker 1: common sense and common I guess to some people. But
Speaker 1: what do you what else do y'all expect? But back
Speaker 1: to and and and still on that topic going. I
Speaker 1: just love the fact that sometimes people don't know what
Speaker 1: they wanted until you show it to him. I love
Speaker 1: that the the gates, the gay kids in the club directly,
Speaker 1: they stood up, they fell back. It shows courage, It
Speaker 1: shows we're tired of your of your bs. We're exhausted
Speaker 1: with the foodishness that you're doing, and more of us
Speaker 1: as a people, not just gay people, with black people,
Speaker 1: brown people. We're gonna have to stand up and fight back.
Speaker 1: That is the only thing that's gonna And when they
Speaker 1: when the guy who the father who talked about that
Speaker 1: he took the gun from and he just started willing them.
Speaker 1: These are his word. He's actually started willing on And
Speaker 1: I told the queen to come and stump him in
Speaker 1: the head. Yes he's ex military, so I'm good. I'm
Speaker 1: sure that training help. But that he went into dandy mode.
Speaker 1: I would have went into dandy mode. I met your father,
Speaker 1: he would have went in to Daddy mos, somebody is
Speaker 1: hurting my door. And I love that that overprotective spirit
Speaker 1: we should take over and everybody, but everybody doesn't possess
Speaker 1: that to uh what's his name, Ted Cruz? Oh well.
Speaker 1: I think the other thing too, is when you're in
Speaker 1: those situations and I don't begrudge anybody you know that
Speaker 1: maybe didn't act, but you automatically have that fight or
Speaker 1: flight response, and until you're in that situation, you don't
Speaker 1: know how your body's gonna react. But it's just unfortunate
Speaker 1: that so much trauma is being endured and experienced and
Speaker 1: so many people. It's it's just it's so unfortunate, you know,
Speaker 1: And that's why we continue to see actual, you know,
Speaker 1: cases of mental health. I'm not talking about the people
Speaker 1: that are shooting up places. That's not mental health disorder.
Speaker 1: That's hatred, that's racism. But all of this trauma that
Speaker 1: we're experiencing in this country, especially because most people, most
Speaker 1: kids these days, are dying by gun violence. That's a
Speaker 1: number way that kids in this country are dying. That
Speaker 1: type of trauma to be experiencing, no wonder we have
Speaker 1: mental health issues. You know what I mean, so I
Speaker 1: think we all need couches. They just need to put
Speaker 1: couches out every way and anybody there on the couch
Speaker 1: and let somebody talk on the loud speaking and get
Speaker 1: us awesome therapy. Yeah, seriously, I encourage everybody to go
Speaker 1: to therapy. It's nice to talk to somebody who's unbiased
Speaker 1: about your situation. But then again, everybody can't afford to
Speaker 1: go therapy. So what do you do? You borrow money
Speaker 1: from Donald Trump and Todd Christy and the white because
Speaker 1: they ain't paying taxes. They got some money. Long that
Speaker 1: was a joke. It is laughing learned. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: we're about to enter um. It kind of feels like
Speaker 1: these last two years have been a blur for me. Um.
Speaker 1: But you know, we can only be optimistic, I guess,
Speaker 1: and try to be, you know, optimistic. I'm moving forward
Speaker 1: because the way that every day is turning out, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not starting to become a little impalatable, I would say.
Speaker 1: So before we go on, I have to tell you
Speaker 1: that I'm under the I'm on I'm on the slab
Speaker 1: again on YouTube because earlier today T S. Madison my
Speaker 1: girl was on with a panel and they were supposed
Speaker 1: to be talking about the Shankquella Robinson story. So I'm
Speaker 1: just sitting on and listening. I didn't make no comment.
Speaker 1: I'm just listening, and man, he invited me on. So
Speaker 1: I went on, and the conversation when left immediately it
Speaker 1: was her hope to sell some other people, and there
Speaker 1: was a transman, but I wasn't aware that it was
Speaker 1: a trans man because when I came into I was
Speaker 1: just listening. I didn't he hadn't spoken. So I said hello, ladies.
Speaker 1: I didn't say general, and I wasn't being disrespectful because
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that. And so he made a statement
Speaker 1: saying that he thought that all black sis gender people
Speaker 1: were against LGBT community, and I was like, no, I said,
Speaker 1: that's not true. And so it was so far fench
Speaker 1: that I just removed myself from the conversation because how
Speaker 1: are you, he said, I'm thirty six. I said, well,
Speaker 1: in the words of my grandmother, keep living because you
Speaker 1: have an experience enough. And so I just removed myself
Speaker 1: out the conversation because I don't I don't do ridiculousness.
Speaker 1: I'm not for the bullshit. So they mad at me.
Speaker 1: They said I was rude, and I didn't give him
Speaker 1: a chance to explain, but he did explain. He said
Speaker 1: what he said, and I said, well, I don't I
Speaker 1: don't agree with that. And and from my perspective, I
Speaker 1: kept saying, from my perspective and from my experience, had
Speaker 1: it not been for the hetero sexual community, me and
Speaker 1: my children could have changed that name to Oscar and
Speaker 1: lived in the garbage canids like they did on Sesame
Speaker 1: Street because y'all didn't work. Y'all don't work me, y'all
Speaker 1: don't work with me, or nothing like that. And it
Speaker 1: just went after I got off. So they were saying
Speaker 1: I was being rude because I got I just know
Speaker 1: my mouth, and I knew where I was going to go,
Speaker 1: and I'm on vacation. I had had me lovely and
Speaker 1: I already knew I was ready to slice and cut
Speaker 1: and doctor up and put in a box. So I
Speaker 1: removed myself. So they thought it was rue. So they
Speaker 1: tamed me up on you on YouTube. But I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go back to the comment that was made. See, because
Speaker 1: if let's do this in the reverse. So let's say
Speaker 1: that you came on and there, let's say they were
Speaker 1: all you know, Federal sexual since gender in this space,
Speaker 1: And if you came on and somebody said, I felt
Speaker 1: like all black people from the LGBTQ community have an
Speaker 1: issue with you know, since gender people or basically said
Speaker 1: that comment. In the reverse, the lgbc Q community would
Speaker 1: be in an uproar. So I just feel like some
Speaker 1: there there has to be accountability here, Like to make
Speaker 1: a statement like that is offensive to us. It is
Speaker 1: because that's not factual. That's not true. Now maybe that's
Speaker 1: your been your experience, that's fine, but you should say,
Speaker 1: in my experience, whenever I interact with X, Y and Z,
Speaker 1: this is what I've gotten. That's one thing. But to
Speaker 1: make a blatant, offensive statement like that, that's not cool.
Speaker 1: And you have a lot of friends that are a
Speaker 1: part of that demographic that he's talking about, so you
Speaker 1: took offense to it and acted accordingly. There can't be
Speaker 1: a double standard. It has to they can, and and
Speaker 1: I say it, and I say it on the line
Speaker 1: that when at most young gay boys before they found
Speaker 1: before they became trains or whatever they decided to become,
Speaker 1: even before they found their gay ism, their their best
Speaker 1: friend was a biological girl. That was the person they
Speaker 1: felt the safest with. That is the person they hung
Speaker 1: out with. That's the person they first told their entire truths.
Speaker 1: Like me and you were young kids together, and you
Speaker 1: said flame, I like David or Marcus. I like David.
Speaker 1: I said, Oh, Lauren, guess what kind of secret? I
Speaker 1: like David too. I was that was enough. You were
Speaker 1: enough for me. I shared me with you. But then
Speaker 1: I got comfortable with who I was and discovered my
Speaker 1: transism or my gayism or whatever I become. Then I
Speaker 1: became better than you. That was my issue. No, I'm
Speaker 1: not better than you. We are still friends and well
Speaker 1: hopefully we can be on the same level playing field.
Speaker 1: But that is the problem because it was mad that
Speaker 1: I said that. Y'all know, I don't give a funk.
Speaker 1: Let me just say this publicly, y'all get my diakon.
Speaker 1: That's my opinion, and that's what I see it. I'm
Speaker 1: a woman is the blueprint. And I'm gonna say this
Speaker 1: again like I said it on my post the other day.
Speaker 1: Please make this make sense to me. How can you
Speaker 1: be proud to scream that you're a woman, but shame
Speaker 1: to say you trains but keep fighting for trans rights
Speaker 1: That don't make sense to me. That just don't make
Speaker 1: sense to me. If I'm gonna be fighting as a
Speaker 1: trans woman, then this it's enough for me to say
Speaker 1: that I am a trans woman, not that I'm a woman.
Speaker 1: But I don't want to be referred to as trains.
Speaker 1: But I'm fighting for trans rights. Somebody funked up and
Speaker 1: it ain't me. I'm had, but I ain't suked up.
Speaker 1: I need right now, and I get it. I wish
Speaker 1: my wish would be in situations where we have more
Speaker 1: similarities and differences. We would approach each other from different
Speaker 1: communities with an open mind rather than being so defensive.
Speaker 1: I get, like, we want to be defensive as black
Speaker 1: folks around white people, whether regardless of gender sexuality. I
Speaker 1: get automatically being on defense cool, But like, if I'm
Speaker 1: a black female, heterosexual, biological black female and I'm coming
Speaker 1: to the table talking to a black trans woman, I
Speaker 1: would expect you to see the similarities in our situation
Speaker 1: rather than you automatically be on defense with me, because
Speaker 1: that's not the energy that I want. We both have trauma,
Speaker 1: we both have vast experiences that have affected who we
Speaker 1: are today. So rather let's connect on our possible shared
Speaker 1: lived experiences rather than seeing as we're from different communities,
Speaker 1: if that makes sense from a gender perspective, I have
Speaker 1: to level. They want to make a level of competition.
Speaker 1: I hate that that there's always how we in competition.
Speaker 1: Here is my perspective on the situation, and this is
Speaker 1: just me. If I am a female impersonator or a
Speaker 1: trans woman, I'm learning and I'm experienced being feminine and
Speaker 1: being a woman from a watching a woman. She may
Speaker 1: not be black, she may be white or another color,
Speaker 1: but it's still a damn woman girl. They don't want
Speaker 1: to give no, they don't want to give that. So
Speaker 1: that's why we always have issues. And again, like you say,
Speaker 1: it's not the message just me. They damn So you
Speaker 1: don't like me, Yeah, But like I said, you're the anomaly.
Speaker 1: And what I don't appreciate. I know we talked about
Speaker 1: this last week with Teslain, is the fact that you're
Speaker 1: from a different era than from the Hope Gisels and others.
Speaker 1: I think you and Maddie probably agree on more things
Speaker 1: than not, but you're from a different era and I
Speaker 1: think the you know, the trans community from this era
Speaker 1: sometimes discredit your lived experience to validate what's going on currently,
Speaker 1: and I don't agree with that. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You can't say like, oh, this terminology is is wrong,
Speaker 1: or you can't say that you can't say that that's
Speaker 1: what you said during your time period whether you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say those words because I know it
Speaker 1: can be deemed defensive. But some of the things that
Speaker 1: you do say those were terms of endearment for you
Speaker 1: amongst your transistors of that time. Some of the things
Speaker 1: that you did that was what you guys did in
Speaker 1: your time. It's different now, Yes, to be evolved in change,
Speaker 1: but don't just credit people's live past experiences to validate
Speaker 1: whatever agenda you have. Now, that's not cool if we
Speaker 1: don't come together. We need to come together and respect
Speaker 1: everybody's past. So I'm moving to New Zealand. I'm tired, Loring.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for this episode. This week, Lady them,
Speaker 1: it is it is Thanksgiving week. I say, Halloween. I
Speaker 1: hope you're wherever you're traveling to that you're safe or
Speaker 1: your man, give it, your family, your love, what's your friends,
Speaker 1: enjoy yourself. We don't know what's gonna happen next Thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: so let's enjoyed this one. If you celebrate it or not.
Speaker 1: If you do whatever you do, just be safe, keep
Speaker 1: your head on swiping the words of t J. And
Speaker 1: what's that model here? Lauren Hogan here laugh and learned.
Speaker 1: We do have a saying that we're never trying to
Speaker 1: get anybody to change your mind. We're simply trying to
Speaker 1: get you to use your mind. Mind is a terrible
Speaker 1: thing to waste. And Sam, y'all was wasting my damn time. Hey,
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