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Speaker 1: um we actually, uh, we have a new rating, Ralph

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Speaker 1: here we go. Fifty three ratings, mostly five star. Um.

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Speaker 1: From the first year of podcasts, Um, here we go.

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Speaker 1: George can't say volume other than that five stars. I mean,

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Speaker 1: all right, well, you guys continue to leave your reviews

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Speaker 1: because this is something that me and Ralph get in

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Speaker 1: how to pronounce Nirvana? Yeah, yeah, also pronouncing that wrong.

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Speaker 1: Nirvana bond Job. Don't add a third option. It's gotta

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Speaker 1: I would save the save the Eagles for the next tweet.

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Speaker 1: the second round. Man, would I would rather say? I

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Speaker 1: you can't miss Tupac. Even little old ladies know who

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Speaker 1: Tupac is. Bro. You no way, nope, nope, no, no.

419
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Speaker 1: That that's a terrible comparison. That's an awful comparison. There's

420
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:44,479
Speaker 1: no way that that doesn't even make sense. It would

421
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 1: if you were Tupac. Owners are played everywhere. Old white

422
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 1: people know who Tupact is. Missed you. I don't know

423
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,479
Speaker 1: how it's missed you. Oh my god, this podcast has

424
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: taken the craziest turn. But I feel I feel like

425
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 1: I feel like pity in my heart for what because

426
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: it means like there's like this big piece that you

427
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 1: should have been, that should have impacted that it's just

428
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: not there. It's weird. It's like you ripped bandwinkled the

429
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: entire grunge like explosion, and you like fell asleep before

430
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: it and woke up after it. Was your school not

431
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: full of white people wearing flannels and not showing Um no,

432
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 1: not really. I mean I went to two high schools.

433
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 1: I went to a private school with the Uh, with

434
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: Tatiana Ali, the Kardashians and uh and um and what

435
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: do you what? Yeah, and you know, but a bunch

436
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,959
Speaker 1: of other people like that. And then I went to Silamar,

437
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: which was overwhelmingly Hispanic and Latin Latin next to be

438
00:27:53,920 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: perfectly to be culturally correct. So so so yeah so

439
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: so no bro, so no, what is confusing? You must

440
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: have so many California followers because I'm watching this poll

441
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: right now, and by the way, Nirvana is winning, of

442
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: course they are, but there's not voted for red hot

443
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: Chili Peppers. And I don't understand what that has to

444
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: just be a super left coast thing because I understand

445
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 1: the popularity and the longevity of Red Hot Chili Peppers,

446
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: but I think I think that even they would laugh

447
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: at you for putting them in the same tweet. But

448
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: bon Jovi is getting crushed right now, because, like I said,

449
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 1: it's only Rutgers fans who would appreciate what you're doing here. Okay,

450
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: So now back to the podcast. All right, um, all right?

451
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: Where where where were we at? I don't know, I'm

452
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: so lost. I think I don't even know if we

453
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 1: had started yet, like the alliance or the okay, okay,

454
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: then then now it's time for the actual Pack twelve apostles.

455
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: I guess. Alright, so the alliance between the Big twelve,

456
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: Pack twelve, I'm sorry, the Big ten Pack twelve in

457
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: a c C. We're talking about Chase Garber's anyway from

458
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: the email from Okay, yeah, yeah, Chase. So Chase Garber's

459
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: long story short. I called him to interview him, and

460
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: I spent like twenty minutes interviewing him, and then towards

461
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: the end of the interview, the person on the other

462
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: end of the phone was like, you know, I'm not

463
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: Chase Garber's right, And it was Brett Neil in the

464
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: starting center for USC. Oh. God, I mixed up their

465
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: phone numbers and he like, was a really good sport

466
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: about it. Um. But I will never forget how dumb

467
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: I felt after after doing that. But I I do

468
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: like Chase Garbers. I don't remember saying anything negative about him.

469
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: I I went back in my timeline on Twitter, and

470
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: it's full of me making fun of all miss for

471
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: dropping eight into coverage and still not being able to

472
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: stop him. When he's good. He's good. He's just not.

473
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: He hasn't shown me greatness yet. That's it. You just

474
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: haven't had the chance. He needs a chance, and he'll

475
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: show it this year. Slow down, slow, slow the hell down.

476
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: Um all right, well um the oh. And then let's

477
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: get to the text message that we got on the

478
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: secret textos line seven five for seven kind yes, calling

479
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: us judas and and an apostle wondering if you're the

480
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: So here's a text message that we got, no sugarcoating,

481
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: no bias, that's what That's what the opening script is

482
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: for every Pack twelve Apostles podcast. But it's quite clear

483
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: you have two distinct biases. You love Oregon understandable, and

484
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: you hate Arizona state. I can hear the glee in

485
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: your voice when something looks ominous over the devils, and

486
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: you're contempt when things are going their way. I hope

487
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: your ducks fall apart and everything you eat tastes like

488
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: But that's a good text, and I said, laugh out loud.

489
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: I don't hate assue they are. There are two Pack

490
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: twelve teams I don't like, and a SU isn't one

491
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: of them. But but I do still try to obviously

492
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: cover them objectively. Uh that they screwed up big time.

493
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: It was wrong, and they put people's lives at risk,

494
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: and they did so while while the overwhelming majority of

495
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: the rest of schools were following dead period and recruiting rules,

496
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: and AP took advantage of young coaches. Um, you have

497
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: used every coach's interview for the past three podcast to

498
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: take a jab at a issue, and thank goodness, Chip

499
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: Kelly has enough class to overlook your immaturity. But also

500
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: you ignore all the other programs that have also come

501
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: under scrutiny for recruiting violations during the dead period. That's

502
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: the one I have a question about, because what are

503
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: we who are we talking about here? Nebraska? Which we

504
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: which we talked about well, well on the on the

505
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: but this is the Pact twelve apostles. So Nebraska is

506
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: irrelevant to us? Yeah, who, um, Nebraska is irrelevant. You

507
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: don't have to add to us. I can say that

508
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: on here because if you say it on Twitter, you'll

509
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: get destroyed. Their fan base is up there with the

510
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: University of Tennessee as the wildest. I know that's not

511
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: your experience because of your thing with the Florida Gator fans,

512
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: but oh my god, Nebraska fans and Tennessee fans are wild. Um.

513
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: I don't know who else has had recruiting stuff in

514
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: the Pact twelve since we've been doing this in the

515
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: last two years. I guess University of Arizona basketball. We

516
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: talked a little bit about that. We we did talk

517
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: USC basketball, but it was kind of like it was

518
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: we didn't didn't didn't you interview the guy from the documentary? Yes, yeah.

519
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like if it was no, no, no,

520
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,959
Speaker 1: no no. I interviewed the director director of the Christian

521
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: Dawkins Dot. Okay, Um, Yeah, I don't know. I feel

522
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: like we would talk. I feel like we would. I'm

523
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: trying to understand that that part of I wish can

524
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: if he would text back and tell us who in

525
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: the Pact twelve we're missing, because we would certainly discuss it.

526
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you played Oregon, there's not You're not gonna

527
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: hide that I owe Arizona State money for a liberal

528
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: arts degree. I'm not gonna be able to hide that.

529
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: Um But I grew I grew up rooting for my

530
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: mom's college, University of Wyoming. That's kind of where I

531
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: kept my fandom because of the four years that I

532
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: spent as the managing editor and lead recruiting reporter for

533
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: Devil's Digest. You can't just go out there and like

534
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: root for the team, even though that's what some of

535
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: these people do. Um But I do care a great

536
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: deal about a lot of the kids that are at

537
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: Arizona State, and you've pointed that out as being a

538
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: potential flaw on on my end and for not being

539
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: able to see twenty on some of the stuff they

540
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: that I do. That hasn't stopped me from talking about

541
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: what's going on with with with a s U. I

542
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: feel like we we roasted Kevin someone pretty hard for

543
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: his inability to recruit. Um We we talked at length

544
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: about the decision that led to melt Tucker leaving and

545
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: Carl Durrell coming on. I feel like we talked about everything.

546
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: Um we I mean we talked about your your your

547
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,760
Speaker 1: guys at Oregon getting busted with the shooting pellet guns

548
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 1: of yet in the car and they are actually form

549
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: formally charged right now, and their next court date is

550
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: September eight, three days before the Ohio State game, so

551
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: they won't be playing unless they come up with some

552
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 1: sort of plea agreement or something in between now and then. Yeah.

553
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel I don't. I don't know

554
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: if that particular criticism is fair. Um, but I mean,

555
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: keep keep listening please, I mean we we enjoy the interaction.

556
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell you to not listen, but I don't.

557
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: I'm trying to see where you're coming from. So if

558
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: you get if you get, hit us back and let

559
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: me know like what we missed, we will. We'll get

560
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 1: into it for sure. I think we did talk at

561
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: length about um, the Sean Miller's stuff. Even though we

562
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: don't get into too much basketball, we do talk a

563
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: lot more basketball than some of the other Pactell shows.

564
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: But um, yeah, I would just like to know because

565
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: obviously he feels that way for for a reason. And

566
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: if there's something that we missed, we'll get into it.

567
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:19,720
Speaker 1: We're not shy. Yep, absolutely all right. Um, now let's

568
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,720
Speaker 1: go on to the alliance because the alliances the next

569
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: thing that you know, the thing that was huge this

570
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: week between the Big ten, A, C, C, Impact twelve

571
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: and you also like this, this was a big deal

572
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: because they are coming together against the the SEC. And

573
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: I thought that this was well, actually, what what what

574
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: was your reaction to it when you first heard the

575
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: press conference because we were on on for the whole thing. Yeah,

576
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: my reaction to it was that idea that it seemed

577
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: like a lot of corporate mumbo jumbo speak of like

578
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:00,919
Speaker 1: I think I said this on right, start wrong, where

579
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,720
Speaker 1: you you have a meeting to establish what the meeting

580
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 1: that you're gonna have is gonna be about. It felt

581
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: very much like they didn't like they didn't have a

582
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: full there. A lot of it was filler. A lot

583
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: of it's the stuff that Taco Bell claims his beef like.

584
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: It was just it was just thrill space. But but

585
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: that the overall purpose was to ensure that the SEC

586
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: doesn't have the ability to step on the throat of

587
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: everybody in college football by getting five of the twelve

588
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: teams into an expanded college football playoff. That seemed like

589
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 1: the them uniting was for that specific purpose, but they

590
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 1: had to come up with other reasons because if they

591
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: were to say that out loud, that's kind of bad.

592
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: I guess I don't know. I get I saw it

593
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: as a necessity, and then I listened to you talk

594
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: about it. I think you probably think it's more important

595
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: than I do. I just don't know if I'm well

596
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: informed enough to really formed a full opinion on what's

597
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: going on right now. We're okay, just one to ten scale.

598
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: Help me out here, one to ten scale. What do

599
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: you think the importance of the quote unquote alliance is

600
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: attend See, Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. You're like,

601
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 1: you're like, this was this, this was needed. You explained

602
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 1: to me why a move like this was was super necessary.

603
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm more in the middle of like

604
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: a five because it serves the one major purpose that

605
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: they want, but it feels like everything else is just

606
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 1: kind of unnecessary filler. Okay, So the most important thing

607
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: is is the college Football Playoff because you have to

608
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: get national championships and opportunities at them to raise your

609
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: profile and all of those things. So the first thing

610
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: is is that the so I've done so many interviews

611
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: on this that I'm like, Okay, where to start at

612
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 1: the beginning. So the stump speech. Yeah, the first thing

613
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: is is that the College Football Playoff. ESPN has a

614
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: contract to broadcast to have the broadcast rights through and

615
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: they also have an exclusive negotiating window through some point

616
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: in time up up to the expiration. And if the

617
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 1: College football if it was expanded, which it was probably

618
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: going to pass in October or November whenever they're having

619
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: the meeting, um that if it passed, you would have

620
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: had expansion prior to but ESPN would have wanted and

621
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: probably gotten, um an extension of those rights through past.

622
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: And the issue with that is is that the Big

623
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: Ten is partners with Fox, the PAC twelve as partners

624
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: with Fox and with UH with ESPN, but not in

625
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: the same way because Fox owns the big part of

626
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: like half of the Big ten network. So the a

627
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: c C is locked into a shitty contract with ESPN

628
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: through six which is just mind blowingly silly, like that's

629
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: Larry Scott level bad move, right. They did it to

630
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Speaker 1: be able to create the A C C network. So

631
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: the if you want money, right, the best way is

632
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 1: to create a bidding war. And now if they let

633
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 1: the rights expire in then prior to that there is

634
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:41,919
Speaker 1: a negotiating window. So you can now negotiate with CBS, NBC, UM,

635
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: the Apple, Amazon, who all are going to be bidders

636
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: for the college Football Playoff and the expanded format of that.

637
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: So now you're gonna be able to get more money.

638
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: But what I think is gonna happen is instead of

639
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 1: putting it exclusively on one network, you're probably gonna end

640
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: up with the rotation like the Super Bowl, where it's

641
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 1: on one network one year, one network the next, and

642
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 1: so on and so forth. And the reason why this

643
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: alliances and then the secondary reason why this alliance is

644
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: important is for scheduling. They initially say that they're gonna

645
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: keep their existing contracts and all of this stuff, but

646
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of those are ultimately going to

647
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: fall apart once we once because you're you're gonna have

648
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: the Big ten and the Pact twelve moved down to

649
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: eight conference games, which then opens up another non conference

650
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: game to schedule against the A c C and the

651
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: Big Ten. And the reason why this is important is

652
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: because there was a really good article that came out

653
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 1: on UM on the importance of that that the number

654
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: four million is the biggest important number in terms of

655
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: TV ratings, that if you can draw four million viewers

656
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: or more, then you have created you have exponentially increased

657
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: the price that you can charge for your content. And

658
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 1: the Pack twelve had the least amount of four million

659
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: dollars I'm sorry four million viewer games of any other conference.

660
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 1: Part of that is because of the availability of the

661
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: the the stuff just in general, and the time slots

662
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: and all of that. But the other biggest thing is

663
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: just the matchups. So now if you can get Oregon, Michigan, Oregon,

664
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Speaker 1: Ohio State USC, you know Penn State, UM, you know Clemson, USC, Washington,

665
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: you know Florida State, you can put these in replacement

666
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: of a conference game. Those things are gonna do really

667
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: really well on television, which then elevates the profile of

668
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 1: the Pack twelve. And now you're you're gonna have Pack

669
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Speaker 1: twelve coaches be able to recruit even better outside of

670
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: the footprint because you have teams like Utah who's got

671
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: a limited footprint where they can recruit. Yes, they do

672
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 1: well in Florida with some of the three Stars, but

673
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: they will be elevated as a result of that. And

674
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: then also you're gonna have people in those states that

675
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 1: typically only watch A C, C and SEC football forced

676
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: to watch Pack twelve football. So now you're gonna have

677
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,280
Speaker 1: kids that are going to enjoy that brand of football

678
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: and say, oh man, I want to go out west

679
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: to U C. L A. I want to go there.

680
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: Here here. So it's going to open up the options,

681
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,800
Speaker 1: not necessarily immediately, but over the course of a couple

682
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: of years. So that's why I think that it's a

683
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: ten level of importance if you can get the follow through. Okay, so,

684
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: but I'm with you. I do agree that it's contingent.

685
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: We will see. Um, there's nothing in writing. Obviously, there's

686
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: a lot of people who think that because there's nothing

687
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: in writing, that it's that that the whole thing is

688
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: kind of silly. Um, But I think listen to you.

689
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 1: I'm I'm more sold on the idea that this was

690
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: ultimately necessary. We had some breaking news and I want

691
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: to just read this to you because it's gonna segue

692
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 1: us into our next segment anyway. PAC twelve Statement on expansion.

693
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Speaker 1: Following a consultation with our president's chandlers and athletic directors,

694
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: the PACT twelve Conference has made the decision to not

695
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 1: pursue expansion of our membership at this time. The decision

696
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 1: was made following extensive internal discussion and analysis, and is

697
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: based on the current competitive strength and cohesiveness of our

698
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: twelve universities. It is also grounded in our confidence in

699
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: our ability as a conference to best support our student

700
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: athletes and to grow and thrive both academically and athletically.

701
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: So no expansion right now. What do you think about that?

702
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: I think that that's the optimal move. I mean, like,

703
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: I don't think it should be forced that. If you're

704
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 1: going to expand, it needs to be very strategic and

705
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: you need to pick the right partners. And there was

706
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: the obvious potential partners were the Big twelve schools, which

707
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: we went over on the last podcast, and none of

708
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: them seem particularly interesting except for one school for for you,

709
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: which I don't get and that's who who is the

710
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: team that you will out of all the the Big

711
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: twelve teams left remaining, Which one would you or too?

712
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: Would you say? Man, I would love to have those

713
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,240
Speaker 1: in the Pac twelve. I think the one that makes

714
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:43,240
Speaker 1: sense is one that gets you into the recruiting ground

715
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: of Texas. But it's also closer than East Texas and

716
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: has the largest UH student body and alumni base of

717
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: any school left in the Big twelve, and that's Texas Tech.

718
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: I already think that they play a Pack twelve friendly

719
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: brand of football. Um, I don't think it's as important

720
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: to kids that they have a home game in in

721
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: in Texas if it's in the Dallas Fort Worth area

722
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: or in the Houston area. Now, there will be people

723
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: who scream at me that I'm I'm wrong about that,

724
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: but I don't think it's as if. I think if

725
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: a kid's going to come from Texas to the Pac twelve,

726
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 1: they're probably and and then that's the one thing they're

727
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: on the fence about. I think that that'll that will

728
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: make the difference. I don't think that it's well, I

729
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 1: live in Houston and we have University of Houston. That

730
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 1: could that be helpful? Yes? Um, do I think the

731
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: University of Houston would be able to compete in the

732
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 1: PAC twelve and wouldn't just become another Oregon State. Um,

733
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: I'm not so sure. I'm really not see. I was

734
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: on the I have been. We don't want any of

735
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: the big twelve schools, and I'm still on that train.

736
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 1: I don't think that they add any value Texas Texas,

737
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: you know, engagement on social media all that stuff, it's

738
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: not it's more Arizona State than it is Oregon or

739
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: USC like so, and we need to like in terms

740
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: of how much fan in terms of fan engagement, in

741
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: terms of like if you were to research articles that

742
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 1: on certain teams, like some teams do better than others,

743
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 1: Like out of all the teams in the country, Ohio

744
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 1: State does the absolute best media engagement. Like if you

745
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: write an article about Ohio State, it is going to

746
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: be number one on the list all the time. And

747
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: and if you write an article about Arizona State, yeah

748
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: they'll do okay. But it's the same way with with

749
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: Texas Tech. They but they are still above like Stanford

750
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: and cow and stuff like that. So this is not

751
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 1: so email man that I am not disparaging Arizona State.

752
00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: I'm just being realistic about the engagement as it relates

753
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:04,919
Speaker 1: to their fan fan base. So the the team that

754
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: and it was and you just mentioned them, and John

755
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: Wilner put it out said that the team that they

756
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:15,959
Speaker 1: should add, it's Houston because that they are academically on part.

757
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: They're not one of the president the a AU or whatever,

758
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: They're not one of those schools. But they did just

759
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: build a medical school and they are and are one

760
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: research facility which qualifies academically. And then when you look

761
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 1: at athletically, first thing, it's in the city of Houston.

762
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: It would greatly raise their profile coming in the PAC twelve.

763
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: So we would do a lot for Houston, right, But

764
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: Houston has something that would enable them too to really

765
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:53,439
Speaker 1: put to really fast track there. You know their uh

766
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: their moved to the Pack twelve, which I would love.

767
00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 1: Strip clubs Nope, they have an owner just like Oregon.

768
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: They have Tillman for Tita, who is very it is

769
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: very important to him that the University of Houston does well,

770
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: particularly their athletic department where he's engaged financially and just

771
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: in the ways and he's a multi billionaire, he is famous.

772
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: He is like so he can move strings to help

773
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: them grow their program extremely quickly. If they are given

774
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: that elevation level, So I would like welcome Houston. I

775
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 1: think that Houston would have that if they do add that,

776
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: Houston is the team that I would look at it

777
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: like there's something there, But but I'm only adding them

778
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: if I can add another like premium name Okay, and

779
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: who would that premium name possibly be? Um? There there

780
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: aren't any. There aren't any right now. But the only

781
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 1: team I would take from the Big Wealth would be

782
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State. So I would consider if you could add

783
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State in Houston, I would consider that a win.

784
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: So do you think George cleav Coof is saying he

785
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 1: didn't like the selection of people who wanted to come

786
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: over to the pack twelve or do you think that

787
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: George cleev Coof is saying, like the power brokers in

788
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 1: the PAC twelve didn't like the possibility of of of

789
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: entertaining adding some of the people that we're looking at,

790
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: and therefore, because USC's president or U c l as president,

791
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: UM didn't like it, and we don't want to risk

792
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: losing them, we're gonna keep it at twelve. Who has

793
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: to be kept happiest in this scenario. M hmmm. I

794
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 1: don't think that the sea. Like Carol foult is the

795
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: new president over at USC and I don't think that

796
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: she's itching too to make moves and waves and stuff

797
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: like that. So so I don't think them. I know

798
00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 1: the people that at Oregon, they don't seem pretty pretty, see,

799
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: So I don't think that you really had to keep

800
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: anybody necessarily happy. I just don't think that there was

801
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 1: probably anything that looked on its face like, oh, like

802
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 1: this is this is it. I think that that it's

803
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: just tabled for right now because I think that they

804
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 1: want to get further away from this and understand how

805
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: the schedules are gonna work and all that kind of

806
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: kind of stuff and then figure it out because they

807
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 1: want to be able to be in the negotiating window

808
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: for the next TV rights. So then when you're having

809
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 1: those conversations with networks, you're like, Okay, well, what would

810
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: happen if we added Houston? What would we add if

811
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 1: we added that market, if we added this market? And

812
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: I think that that's where you kind of determine who

813
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: you want to add once you understand the financial implications

814
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: of adding them. Okay, so you but you feel like

815
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: this is the right decision to Yeah, that that that

816
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 1: tabling it for a later date, which is essentially what

817
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: they did. I do think that they will expand I

818
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 1: just don't think I think it'll be twelve to eighteen

819
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: months from now as opposed to today. Okay, all right, Uh,

820
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: the next thing up, we have a great interview from

821
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: the head coach of the future, well the back to

822
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 1: back pack twelve champions, uh the Oregon Ducks. Here is

823
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: Mario Christo ball coach. Thanks for coming on the show,

824
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. Hope everybody's doing well. Yeah. I

825
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 1: start every interview now since there's been a lot of

826
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 1: controversy with all head coaches with how should you be addressed?

827
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: Is it? Is it? Mario? Is it is it? Coach?

828
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: Because a lot of people get real testy about this

829
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, I don't, uh, you know, I never

830
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 1: really thought about it. I just think whether you're addressing

831
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: a coach, whether you're addressing uh, any human being, you

832
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: just always addressed them respectfully. And you know, I think

833
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: anything along the lines of respect is proper, it's appropriate.

834
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 1: So all the other stuff I really don't get into. Yeah. Um,

835
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:20,919
Speaker 1: so this this season is about to start, and it's

836
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: it's a different situation than last season in that you know,

837
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: the Pac twelve wasn't playing and then they ended up

838
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: coming coming back. But this year we're still dealing with

839
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: some of the same COVID issues and protocols and all

840
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: of that. What's been the biggest difference from last year

841
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: to this year? The biggest thing would be the off season.

842
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: You know, being able to have an entire spring unabrupted.

843
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 1: It was a difference maker for us. Finally insolving our

844
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: entire offensive system, a new defense coreer would tim to Reuter,

845
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 1: and then rolling into the off season and having our

846
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: full Phase two and Phase three cycle of strength and

847
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: condition sing in our fuard quarter program, and then a

848
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: football camp that um. Again, the glitches have been very

849
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: minor in terms of what protocol does and how it

850
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: doesn't let you be completely completely normal, but close enough

851
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: to where we feel that we've had a normal in

852
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,919
Speaker 1: a great camp. Yeah. One of the things I thought

853
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 1: that was probably toughest for coaches last year was to

854
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: have the protocol well, was to keep everybody locked in

855
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: all year because you didn't know if you were playing,

856
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 1: and then you're like if when all of that, have

857
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: the athletes been more locked in and kind of laser

858
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: focused this year because there is for sure a destination already. Oh,

859
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: I think so, I mean, I think they see a

860
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: path now, they feel like there's a path, and their

861
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: experience last year at the same time allows them to

862
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 1: never ever take football and a season for granted, because

863
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: at some one point in time we had no idea

864
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: or we were assured that we weren't going to play,

865
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, sudden change and here we go. So,

866
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of those principles you apply to life, right,

867
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: you have never taken anything for granted. But there's a

868
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 1: strong lock in. I think a lot of that is

869
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: sponsored by the fact that now you are a lot

870
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 1: to have team meetings and group settings, you know, albeit

871
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: with some protocol, but you are able to have human

872
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: face to face, eye to eye contact and that is

873
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: the ultimate difference maker. Yeah, and this is a season

874
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 1: that people are really expecting, you know, big things from

875
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: from Oregon. But you're coming back with a you know,

876
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: a starter at quarterback that only started the last game

877
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 1: of the season. You know, how have you been getting

878
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown ready and just making sure that this team

879
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: is you know, kind of lives up to those expectations. Well,

880
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: I mean, we have our own expectations are always going

881
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: to supersede any others out there. You know, we're here

882
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,399
Speaker 1: for a reason, and and we're here because Oregon has

883
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: done so many great things in the past, and we're

884
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: here to elevate that standard. And ump we're proud of

885
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: the things accomplished over the past couple of years, but

886
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 1: we quickly put those in the rearview mirror. And the

887
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: best way to do that is to go right to work.

888
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,240
Speaker 1: So the best way in preparing Anthony Brown is coaching

889
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: him hard, extremely hard, and holding him to a high standard,

890
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 1: knowing that we're not gonna deviate or lower those standards

891
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 1: at all. And it's important that your quarterback position is

892
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 1: coached that way, that every position on the field is

893
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: coached that way, presenting them with struggle, you know, with

894
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: adversity in our practice situations so that it's real instead

895
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 1: of just throwing it up on a on a chalkboard

896
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 1: or on a computer, legitimately preparing these guys by placing

897
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: them in situation where they have to overcome adversity. So far,

898
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 1: it's been a great camp for Anthony and the rest

899
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: of the guy. So we're excited. What and you mentioned

900
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: that the expectations for you guys are always higher than

901
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 1: the expectations outside. What are the expectations for your team

902
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 1: this year and what does success the like for the

903
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: Oregon Ducks in successes have proven every single year, always

904
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: elevating the standard and getting better. We don't go out

905
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: and set predictions or or do um any talking, you

906
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 1: know as it relates to media and all that other

907
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 1: stuff and rankings, which is it's just not our thing,

908
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 1: never has been, or process oriented, and we attack it.

909
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 1: And you know, there's been a lot of progress over

910
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 1: the past couple of years, continued progress and talent acquisition

911
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 1: and player development, and it's not stopping. The trajectory is

912
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 1: really strong and high. So for us, we just go

913
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 1: and every single day we make sure that we have

914
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: to finish that day. We want to know we have

915
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 1: to finish each drill, want to know we can do

916
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: that and stack those reps and stack those days. We're

917
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 1: gonna get our results on Saturdays. Yeah, And a lot

918
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: of the results that you guys have been getting now

919
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: have been huge wins in recruiting, which have led to

920
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 1: some people, particularly up north, hurling allegations and all of

921
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 1: this stuff at you. So, how do you like, what

922
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 1: is the method that you guys used to recruit because

923
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 1: there are you know, there were coaches there and even

924
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 1: one in Nebraska and Scott Frost and said, you can't

925
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: recruit to Eugene. But now it's proven you can recruit

926
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: top ten classes to Eugene. Well, I think it's it's simple,

927
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: and we're completely focused on ourselves and everything we do

928
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: is authentic. There's no fluff, there's no nonsense, there's no bs.

929
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: We just we go and we go hard. And at

930
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: the end of the day, if you cut out everything

931
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: aside and you look at the University of Oregon academically, facilities, resources, personnel, people,

932
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: and then history, it's hard to match it. There's very

933
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: few places like it in the entire country. So and

934
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 1: a lot of cases it's a no brainer, but it

935
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: still requires a lot of work. And we have a

936
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 1: staff that is fully committed. And you know why they're

937
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: fully committed. They're fully committed because of the belief in

938
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: the institute and at the leadership, starting with you know,

939
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: our our athletic director and in the university and m

940
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 1: it's just we lived this stuff. Man, This is our

941
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 1: this is our deal, this is our passion, this is

942
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: our vocation. Yeah. I was up at Saturday and to

943
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 1: Night Live when you guys did that, and I was

944
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 1: blown away with the event itself and how much the

945
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: kids got a chance to bond and the coaches were

946
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: with the kids and and all of that. And I

947
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 1: can see why there's such a connection there, um. But

948
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 1: in terms of like what does recruiting look like and

949
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: what does it take on a on a day to

950
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:43,479
Speaker 1: day basis for somebody to to land five star kids

951
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: from all over the country and high four stars as well. Oh,

952
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 1: you know, we never divulge exactly what we do, you know,

953
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 1: just we we believe we're in a copycat industry. Um,

954
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 1: So we keep ourselves to ourselves and we we do

955
00:58:56,280 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: work extremely hard at it. And it's just real is

956
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 1: going to be attracted to real And that's the bottom line.

957
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: And I think when you focus completely on yourself and

958
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: you make sure that your process oriented and not results oriented,

959
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: and you keep tweaking it and finding ways to improve,

960
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 1: you just you naturally get better, you know. And recruiting

961
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: comes in cycles too. It comes and it goes in cycles.

962
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 1: But we've made it a point to keep those cycles

963
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 1: turning at a high level. So we're just we're just

964
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: kind of we're fulfilling our expectations and we just gotta

965
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 1: get a whole lot better at it. Where so not

966
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: where we want to be recruiting libs. Yeah, you guys,

967
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 1: we are on with head coach for the Oregon Ducks,

968
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 1: Mr Mario crist the ball and um, so you were

969
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 1: the head coach at at f I you but then

970
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 1: you ended up being one of the earlier coaches to

971
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 1: to pivot towards the next chapter of your coaching career

972
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 1: by taking up an assistant role under Nick Saban at Alabama.

973
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 1: Can you shed some light about the process from going

974
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 1: from running an entire program to being part of a

975
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 1: stat of in having to reprove yourself. Well, I think

976
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: it's it was great because we took on an institution

977
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 1: that was that ran in reverse. They were owing twelve,

978
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 1: you know, they were owing well, they were making the

979
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 1: jumps a Division one football. Uh, there was no locker room,

980
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 1: there were the facilities. I think we had to use

981
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 1: basketball auxiliary offices and a volleyball court with a curtain

982
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 1: for a facility. We had a gut out to racquetball

983
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 1: courts for uh and put a couple of machines in

984
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: there for a weight room. Um, there wasn't Uh, there

985
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 1: was nothing. You know. We had to do everything on

986
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 1: our own and cut our teeth and learn learn the

987
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 1: a PR at The place was on probation, a five

988
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: year probation, lowest APR in America maybe in history, lost

989
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 1: of scholarships. All this was inherited day one. And I

990
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 1: get it. It It might be an instur amountable task for

991
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 1: a lot of people, but what better training ground and

992
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 1: to go figure that out on your own. So when

993
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 1: you go do that at you have an awesome staff,

994
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 1: an incredible group of young men that fought through, fought

995
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 1: through and end up winning its first and only conference title. Um.

996
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 1: When you do that, and then you get a chance

997
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 1: to go learn from you know, what's arguably the best

998
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 1: um coaching in college history, and look at the resources

999
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 1: that surround it and how to use those resources, how

1000
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 1: to implement them. Uh, the use of sports psychology, the

1001
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 1: practice regimentation, in season, off season fourth quarter program, player

1002
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 1: agent program, meant all that stuff. It's it's it's like

1003
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 1: going to grad school. He knows what it is, and

1004
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: you learn a bunch and you take what you feel fits.

1005
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 1: You don't try to be a copycat. I don't think

1006
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 1: you do that. You take what you think is really

1007
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: good for players and for their development and their future,

1008
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 1: and you apply it to the best of your ability

1009
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 1: by being you, by being real. And so that's what

1010
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 1: we've carried over here, and we can we do that

1011
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 1: every summer, though we try to go out and learn

1012
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 1: more and more. But if you look at us, you

1013
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 1: know that blueprint, there's a there's a heavy influence from

1014
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 1: the last stop I was at over here to Oregon. Yeah,

1015
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: and so a ton of UH coach Saban's assistance are

1016
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 1: across the country doing great jobs at other universities, but

1017
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 1: none of them have been able to beat him. If

1018
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 1: you guys still talk like how important is it to

1019
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 1: be the first one or two when you get a

1020
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 1: shot at him, to to to knock the king down? Oh,

1021
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 1: I don't. Honestly, those aren't even conversations or thoughts man.

1022
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 1: I M I often say that. Look, I'm a very

1023
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 1: boring interview because I don't like all that other stuff,

1024
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:40,439
Speaker 1: like it doesn't really it's not a thought, man, We're

1025
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 1: you know, I'm looking. I'm I'm literally sitting here right

1026
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 1: now and looking at this next special Teams meeting, how

1027
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 1: it's got to go, how it's got to end, and

1028
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 1: then transition time to the field so we could have

1029
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 1: enough time to get our walk through it. I mean,

1030
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 1: that's that's how we do our want to know process.

1031
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 1: It's being where our feet are and going from there

1032
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 1: and just getting better and better and better at Georgia's

1033
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 1: happening at a really rapid rate over here. I mean,

1034
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 1: this next several years in Oregon are gonna be outstanding.

1035
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 1: And that being said, we have miles to go to

1036
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 1: get to where we need to be, but everything is

1037
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 1: going in that direction with a momentum that's not gonna

1038
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 1: be slowed down by anything or anyone. I love it um.

1039
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 1: When when I got to the University of Oregon, it

1040
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 1: was the year that the uniforms changed, and it's been

1041
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 1: such a huge part of the of the brand. I

1042
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 1: remember talking to Uncle Phil and Tinker about expanding the

1043
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 1: the uniform variety after my freshman year, and then we

1044
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 1: were able to get so so many more and that's

1045
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 1: been a part of Oregon's brand and growing it. So

1046
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 1: how can can you talk about how that kind of

1047
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 1: enhances the recruiting process and also the experience of the

1048
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 1: student athlete when you have people who may try to

1049
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 1: detract from it and say, well, well all we all

1050
01:03:57,560 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 1: we have are our home and away jerseys and where

1051
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 1: we're focusing on football. Yeah, you know, this was it

1052
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 1: was very new for me, you know, being exposed to

1053
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 1: exactly what Night. There's no better company the world than Nike.

1054
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 1: I mean what Phil Night has done, how he's done it,

1055
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 1: the prominence of it, the cutting edge mentality, the always

1056
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 1: just trying to outdo outwork. Everybody is off the chart,

1057
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 1: and it it transcends into the product. I mean, not

1058
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 1: only are these diverse, you know from a uniform and

1059
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 1: and color because team standpoint all that stuff. It is technologically,

1060
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 1: in performance wise, the best of the best. There's nothing

1061
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 1: like it. It's not even close. Now. The big bit

1062
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 1: is that I'm involved in the uniform and stuff. I

1063
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 1: don't I brother, I can hardly address myself. I sure

1064
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 1: it's not getting on to pick a uniform. Okay, So uh,

1065
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 1: we have a committee of players that sits down with

1066
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 1: them and then they go through all kinds of stuff. Um,

1067
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 1: it was up to me. I mean, if you look

1068
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 1: at me every day at work, I'm I'm wearing the

1069
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 1: same color shure. It's just that I have like forty

1070
01:04:57,760 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 1: of them hanging in my closet. So I don't want

1071
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 1: of boor anybody to death by picking uniforms for Oregon.

1072
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 1: So the players do a really good job sitting down

1073
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 1: with the reps and making sure that they just they

1074
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 1: do the right thing and pick things that are mold,

1075
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 1: that represent the university and and that you know, are

1076
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 1: something positive and never losing the culture or the principles

1077
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 1: and valleys in the program in flash and I think

1078
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 1: they do a great job with that balance. Um they

1079
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 1: show it to me at the end, I'm like, hey man,

1080
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 1: if if that's what you want to wear, that's mine.

1081
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 1: But we better win, okay. So that's that's what I'm

1082
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 1: interested in, because you made the uniform look good. And

1083
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 1: when they asked me, I'm like, hey man, make sure

1084
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 1: you know the pants are khaki, the shirt is a

1085
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 1: solid color, and let's throw I don't need much. I mean,

1086
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't. I'm not gonna make anything look

1087
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 1: good or flashy. So but that's that's the extent of

1088
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 1: the uniform involvement, but super like incredibly blessed with the

1089
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 1: way the Nike does that. It's just if you could

1090
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 1: see how deep of a diet they take into player

1091
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 1: performance and how good it looks and all the detail

1092
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 1: that goes into it. It's like everything else that Phil Night,

1093
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 1: Nike does just the best of the best. I got

1094
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 1: got a couple more for you, coach. Um. So people

1095
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 1: talk about development of players and and all that, and

1096
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 1: you were Greg Olsen's position coach at Miami t t

1097
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 1: Y Hilton was on your floor on your f I

1098
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 1: U team, Like, who are some of the players that

1099
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 1: have developed the most? Do you think under you? And

1100
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 1: what process do you take for developing them from just

1101
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 1: a student athlete to their character to them being potentially

1102
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 1: NFL players as well? Well. I think the first thing

1103
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 1: is it's important. I think I think it's important as

1104
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 1: a coach not to jump in and take credit for

1105
01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 1: players success, you know, as opposed to be proud for

1106
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 1: the guy. Because I could sit here and list all

1107
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 1: the guys that I coaxed and their Outland trophies and

1108
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 1: the Remington Trophies, and they're all American statuses in their

1109
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 1: first round fixing. It would be a really it would

1110
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 1: be an extensive list, and I like, I take no joy,

1111
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 1: I take no I have no ego when it comes

1112
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 1: to that. I don't think that's the point. I mean,

1113
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 1: the point is is being extremely proud and happy for

1114
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 1: that particular guy, for that particular family, their future and

1115
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 1: everything that goes with it. If you had to throw

1116
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 1: comfortables out there, I mean we as a staff and

1117
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 1: we'd kill it. I mean it would be, you know,

1118
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 1: some of the best in the entire country. Instead, the

1119
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 1: focus for us and for myself is taking that deep

1120
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 1: dive into the players because it's gotta you know, there's

1121
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 1: gotta be substance to this whole thing. The relationship has

1122
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 1: to be to the point where you can push a

1123
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 1: player to the edge. Does that make sense, George, Yeah, Yeah,

1124
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 1: you got to. You've got to establish a relationship and

1125
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 1: an understanding because we all know that old thing, all right,

1126
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 1: Prior agreements prevent later misunderstandings. You've got to establish where

1127
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 1: hey man, look um, I love you. I'm gonna absolutely

1128
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 1: bust my my behind and making sure I give you

1129
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 1: every ounce of what I got, But you've got to

1130
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 1: understand something. I'm gonna take you and push you and

1131
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:25,640
Speaker 1: take you to the edge, and you're not gonna like it,

1132
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 1: but you've got to trust it. And when you're on

1133
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 1: that edge, we're not gonna have a breakdown. We're gonna

1134
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 1: have a breakthrough, and I'm gonna help you get through that.

1135
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 1: And then when we get through that, we're gonna we're

1136
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:37,600
Speaker 1: gonna hit the restart button and then go to that

1137
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 1: next level, and then the next level and then the

1138
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:42,879
Speaker 1: next level. And to me, the best form of respect

1139
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 1: as a coach that you can have for players to

1140
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:48,680
Speaker 1: confront demand his very best all the time. And uh,

1141
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:51,600
Speaker 1: no one's doing anybody any favors by trying to be

1142
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 1: really too cool and not hold somebody accountable because they're

1143
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 1: a good player. That's a bunch of bes. That's a

1144
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 1: bunch of belogning. You know. Yield yourself accountable, hold your

1145
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 1: top of higher standards. Yeah. What's the biggest differences between

1146
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 1: recruiting young men in the southeast and young men on

1147
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:10,680
Speaker 1: the West Coast? I don't think there's any I mean,

1148
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 1: recruiting is recruiting and people are people. My my old

1149
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 1: man used to say that all the time, Like what

1150
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 1: any My main rest in peace. He passed the ninety

1151
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:22,720
Speaker 1: six book. When I was coming out west, and so

1152
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 1: many people are like, Oh, don't go out west. You

1153
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 1: don't know anybody out there. You know, we have no family.

1154
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:29,640
Speaker 1: You'll get eaten by bears. All the stuff they do it,

1155
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 1: you know, Um, you know, and my my dad, you

1156
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 1: say all the time, he's a point at the grid

1157
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 1: at the map, you know, and say, you know, all

1158
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:39,800
Speaker 1: these lines that divide states and cities and counties and

1159
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 1: all that other stuff. All that stuff is nonsense because

1160
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 1: hard work, being honest, being real, and doing it right

1161
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:50,680
Speaker 1: transcends all those lines. And doing it right here in

1162
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 1: South Florida is just as good doing it right out

1163
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 1: there on the west coast or up north or wherever

1164
01:09:56,920 --> 01:10:00,919
Speaker 1: it is. So I was lucky, man, I had unbelievable parents,

1165
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 1: and um at all all that good stuff stuck. Final

1166
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 1: final question for you, coach, Um, you almost left coaching

1167
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 1: behind completely to join the Secret Service, and you had

1168
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 1: to go through two years of the interview process to

1169
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 1: the point where they offered you that opportunity. What was

1170
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 1: the most interesting or you know, fascinating part about the

1171
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 1: Secret Service interview process? Oh? Man, I was all in

1172
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 1: I was all in working for the federal government. I

1173
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 1: was wanting to do it. It just so happens that

1174
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 1: as I transitioned from a public relations account coordinator position

1175
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 1: into being a graduate assistant, because I was every week

1176
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 1: and I would I would fact remember back that it

1177
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 1: was factis. Man. It was text messages and all that.

1178
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 1: You're facing over to my buddy at the University of

1179
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 1: Miami just watching protections in the way they were doing

1180
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 1: things against the odd and the Bear Front, and I'm like, like,

1181
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 1: come on, man, you can't do That's not gonna work.

1182
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 1: And and I ended up walking over there and interviewed

1183
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 1: and they gave me a g a job, but I

1184
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 1: made it clear and like, hey, I'm in the secret

1185
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 1: service process. It will probably take a year and a

1186
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 1: half two years, and that's what I'm gonna do, just

1187
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:11,680
Speaker 1: along the way. You know, the paneled interviews were like

1188
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:17,479
Speaker 1: super super interesting. The memory recall tests, the polygraphs, the

1189
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 1: character references, all that stuff was incredible. And when the

1190
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 1: moment came, and you know, it was at an event

1191
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 1: out there with for the Micron PC bol mind you, um,

1192
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 1: I don't think it exists anymore. Is when I got

1193
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 1: the call and um, it was like, wow, I really

1194
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 1: love coaching football, man, this is this is hard, but

1195
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:37,599
Speaker 1: I guess what I was gonna do, So I'm gonna

1196
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 1: do it and made the decision I was gonna go,

1197
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:43,680
Speaker 1: and I was gone, and um overnight woke up at

1198
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 1: three four in the morning and a panic thing. I

1199
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:48,840
Speaker 1: you know, I lost football once when I was you know,

1200
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 1: I couldn't play anymore. I love it. I don't want

1201
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 1: to lose it again. So I just, um, you know,

1202
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:56,600
Speaker 1: I end up passing on that opportunity to work in

1203
01:11:56,640 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 1: the secret service and up coaching football. Man. That is crazy. Um,

1204
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 1: you guys, he's coach Mario crist the ball head coach

1205
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 1: of the Oregon Ducks. Coach. Thanks for coming on and

1206
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 1: hope that you guys have a great and undefeated season.

1207
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 1: I appreciate your brother. Go Ducks. Okay, So, Ralph, what

1208
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 1: do what do you think about that? Crist the ball

1209
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 1: interview buddy? Uh, A couple of things. Thing number one,

1210
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 1: one of the things that I've always said was Mario

1211
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 1: Crystal Ball's um advantage and could could raise them to

1212
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 1: national prominence and or be his downfall is his delegation.

1213
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 1: Some people like to own every part of every process.

1214
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 1: Some people know what they're good at and they let

1215
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:48,799
Speaker 1: the other things go to competent people. In college football,

1216
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 1: it's really tough unless you're gonna have unlimited resources to

1217
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 1: kind of keep assistance from moving on getting promotions and

1218
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 1: and and doing stuff like that. They lost, and I

1219
01:12:58,120 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 1: know how how you feel about some of the staff

1220
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 1: numb as they've lost and whether or not they've upgraded

1221
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 1: at different positions. They've lost people to UNLV and and

1222
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 1: and other places. Um. And so Mario Cristoval has always

1223
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 1: struck me as an outsider, as somebody who says, all right,

1224
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinators gonna call the offense and defensive coordinators

1225
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 1: gonna call the defense. I am going to focus on

1226
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 1: what I'm good at, which is selling this program and

1227
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:25,679
Speaker 1: the overall development of my roster. Um. And I think

1228
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 1: that that could be uh the key to Oregon success

1229
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 1: or if you end up in a situation like Arizona State,

1230
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 1: when Mike Norvell and everybody took off, UM, when a

1231
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 1: SU was sort of ascending and had back to back

1232
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:41,599
Speaker 1: ten when seasons, uh, you're left with trying to scramble

1233
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 1: to continually fill all these other roles. But Todd Graham

1234
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 1: was more of a meddler. He definitely did it on

1235
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball um and and Mario

1236
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 1: Cristoval seems like somebody who really delegates, and I feel

1237
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:53,640
Speaker 1: like that was on display in this conversation when he

1238
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:56,599
Speaker 1: talked about the fact that he doesn't get into the

1239
01:13:56,760 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 1: uniform thing, that he has an understanding that Reagan is

1240
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 1: in great hands um with Nike, and that the people

1241
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 1: who make the selections of the uniforms each week are

1242
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 1: doing something that is an ultimate benefit for the program.

1243
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:15,080
Speaker 1: He understands the benefit, but it's not necessarily representative of

1244
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 1: him as a person. Therefore he lets it go to

1245
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 1: other people. I thought that was a really good microcosm

1246
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 1: of how I feel like he is in a lot

1247
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 1: of different areas within the program. We will. I think

1248
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:27,920
Speaker 1: it remains to be seen whether or not that is

1249
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 1: a good thing. What do you think of that? Take

1250
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 1: mm hmmm, he does so. I do believe that as

1251
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 1: a good leader, that you that you do have to

1252
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 1: have your fingerprints on on everything, but you don't have

1253
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 1: to have your hands in everything. And that seems like

1254
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 1: what he he does like he is like, I'm going

1255
01:14:56,600 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 1: to recruit you are going to recruit. Like the recruiting

1256
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 1: aspect of it. He's got his hands, fingerprints, elbows, knees

1257
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 1: like he's head first into the recruiting right, head first.

1258
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:13,599
Speaker 1: And in terms of the on field product, I think

1259
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 1: that he understands that the way that he grew up

1260
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 1: playing football, running punting football. You know, let's play some defense,

1261
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 1: running football, running football and all of this is not

1262
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 1: the way of the world. And that's why he hired

1263
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 1: Joe moorehead And I think that you're gonna see a

1264
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:40,639
Speaker 1: much more explosive version of Oregon's offense this season. And

1265
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:45,639
Speaker 1: that's the difference between, you know, winning games and winning

1266
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:49,879
Speaker 1: a national championship is you being able to play solid

1267
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 1: defense and being an explosive offense. Because if you don't

1268
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 1: have an explosive offense, you can't win. Like there's nowhere

1269
01:15:57,040 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 1: around it, you cannot win a national championship. You can't

1270
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 1: even win a conference championship. Look at look at you

1271
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 1: talked two years ago. Um, they didn't have an explosive

1272
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 1: playmaker at quarterback and they got to the conference championship game.

1273
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:20,599
Speaker 1: They they literally drowned everybody in the Pack twelve. On defense,

1274
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 1: I mean just absolutely just held him underwater with Lucky

1275
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 1: Foe to the rest of the crew just uh just

1276
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 1: just dominated. Then they got in the Pack twelve championship

1277
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:37,679
Speaker 1: game and Oregon just demolished them and they couldn't keep up.

1278
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 1: Because if you could stop their run game and them

1279
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 1: just trying to stay in third and short, then you

1280
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 1: can win the football game. You're going to beat them.

1281
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 1: And I think that he has understood that that had

1282
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 1: been potentially his achilles heel with the prior offense, and

1283
01:16:56,400 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 1: he needed to upgrade significantly, and that's what he's done. Uh.

1284
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:03,759
Speaker 1: The thing that I noticed about him in the interview

1285
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:10,759
Speaker 1: was that he talked about not concerning himself with other people,

1286
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:14,400
Speaker 1: and I think that that from my interactions with him

1287
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 1: and talks to kids who have been recruited by him,

1288
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 1: because people talk about negative recruiting all that stuff. Dude,

1289
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 1: he literally is not talking about other schools and all that.

1290
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:27,680
Speaker 1: He's talking about, here's what we do, here's this, here's that.

1291
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 1: And that has actually the arrogance to believe that you

1292
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 1: can recruit these kids, and the tenacity has caused resentment

1293
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 1: amongst other head coaches in the Pact twelve against them. Okay, um,

1294
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:46,760
Speaker 1: But I mean, you don't need those other coaches to

1295
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:48,640
Speaker 1: like you, so that's not so bad. I think. The

1296
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 1: other thing, the other thing that really stood out to

1297
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 1: me about the interview is the ability to identify with

1298
01:17:57,240 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 1: recruits in that he had his mind. Because in this business,

1299
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 1: if you're gonna get some good recruits, you gotta flip some, right,

1300
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 1: you gotta. You gotta deal with people who are being

1301
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 1: offered the opportunity to be educated and play football at

1302
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 1: several different institutions. And what I feel like fans don't

1303
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 1: always grasp is these kids are being given five incredible

1304
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 1: opportunities in which there is no wrong choice. There might

1305
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 1: be a comparatively better or worse choice that's relative to

1306
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 1: their experience, but there is no bad option. Someone is

1307
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 1: going to trade you your football skills for an education

1308
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:39,600
Speaker 1: and now the opportunity with name, image and likeness and

1309
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 1: everything like that. There, it's not like it's not like

1310
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 1: you're choosing how you're gonna be tortured. You are choosing

1311
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 1: between several life changing, great opportunities. Because of that, Uh,

1312
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 1: it's a lot more like the Bachelor, Right, you've got

1313
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:56,760
Speaker 1: five hot girls, four roses or or whatever, you know,

1314
01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 1: it's it's a lot like The Bachelor in that like

1315
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna be a little it torn. And so Mario

1316
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:04,679
Speaker 1: Cristinabal is not just dealing with people who have uh

1317
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 1: committed to his school. He's dealing with people who have

1318
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 1: committed to other schools. So when he told that story

1319
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 1: about going back on the two year process of getting

1320
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 1: ready to uh go into the Secret Service because he

1321
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 1: didn't want to lose football, I feel like that's something

1322
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 1: that he can identify with some of these kids who

1323
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 1: are like, am I gonna go to u c l A?

1324
01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 1: Or am I gonna go to Oregon? U c l

1325
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 1: A So great? Maybe it's closer to home. Oregon, you know,

1326
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:30,720
Speaker 1: has all this success. It feels like Maria Cristaval really

1327
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 1: cares about me. Maybe maybe t c l A. Maybe

1328
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 1: it's Oregon. And for Mario Crystal to be able to

1329
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 1: come in there and be like, hey, and I I

1330
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 1: went back on a life changing decision and I have

1331
01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:43,720
Speaker 1: no regrets. I couldn't give up football. I wanted to

1332
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:45,679
Speaker 1: be in the Secret Service. Like I feel like being

1333
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 1: able to identify with people who are in a position

1334
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 1: to choose between two things that they love is helpful

1335
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 1: in the recruiting process. I might be reading way too

1336
01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 1: far into it, but I know I was a recruiting

1337
01:19:57,360 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 1: reporter for a long time. Like I know, I understand

1338
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 1: some of the agony that these kids go through, trying

1339
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:03,639
Speaker 1: to please adults, trying to please the adults in their life,

1340
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 1: trying to please the adults who are recruiting them, trying

1341
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:08,599
Speaker 1: to please the adults who come out and watch them play. Um,

1342
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:11,639
Speaker 1: they're torn, they're really torn in. It's kind of psychological warfare.

1343
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of people out there and say,

1344
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 1: like I'd give anything to have that type of problem. Sure,

1345
01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 1: but you don't understand it unless you're in it, because

1346
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:21,559
Speaker 1: there are people depending on you, or say that they're

1347
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:24,720
Speaker 1: depending on you, and there are consequences and you don't

1348
01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:27,200
Speaker 1: know which way your life's gonna branch out, and you

1349
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:29,559
Speaker 1: might have regrets and you might think twice. And I

1350
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 1: think that Mario Crystal bal being able to be in

1351
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 1: that position as far as you know, being all in,

1352
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 1: Like he said all in on the Secret Service, but

1353
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:38,360
Speaker 1: he didn't go, so he wasn't all in. He was

1354
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:40,639
Speaker 1: just all in up to a point, and he couldn't

1355
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:42,560
Speaker 1: give up football. You know. So I thought that was

1356
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:47,439
Speaker 1: a really really interesting tidbit. Yeah. Um, all right, Uh,

1357
01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 1: the next thing up? Oh the dude, So speaking of

1358
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:55,680
Speaker 1: George Kakakoff. Uh, we we did find out that the

1359
01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 1: PAC twelve so they we we have a seafood and

1360
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 1: official seafood of the Pack twelve, which we which Larry

1361
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 1: Scott did. We now have an official craft beer of

1362
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 1: the Pack twelve, which is to Shoots Beer. Um, we

1363
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 1: found out that there's a new baseball tournament. I love that, dude.

1364
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 1: I love the logo. It felt, I felt the energy

1365
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 1: all of all of that. How are you liking what

1366
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 1: George Kliakoff is doing with these sorts of things. I

1367
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 1: think it's good. I think there's probably some stuff that

1368
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:33,160
Speaker 1: was probably in production before Larry Scott left. And uh,

1369
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:34,800
Speaker 1: but this is the way of life. You're gonna get

1370
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:37,719
Speaker 1: credit forward if you're if you're the man in the building. Um.

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01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:40,200
Speaker 1: I like the excitement with which it's being rolled out.

1372
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 1: And I like that when they roll out a baseball tournament,

1373
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:46,120
Speaker 1: you don't have three people in the mention saying fire.

1374
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:49,080
Speaker 1: Larry Scott like people are actually paying attention to the

1375
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 1: progress they made because they're not completely distracted by the

1376
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 1: fact that they believe that there's in that leadership in

1377
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:57,679
Speaker 1: place that is a breath of fresh air. Because even

1378
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 1: even if Larry Scott was doing some positive things, like

1379
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:03,120
Speaker 1: let's say that you really like the fish sticks from

1380
01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 1: Pacific Seafood, the most exciting thing that this conference has

1381
01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:08,599
Speaker 1: done in your time of being a fan of teams

1382
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:11,640
Speaker 1: within this conference is to get some fish sticks. It

1383
01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:14,439
Speaker 1: doesn't matter because everyone is looking at it through the

1384
01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:16,560
Speaker 1: eyes of like, all, Larry Scott could get us to

1385
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 1: some damn fish sticks, and so it's just nice to

1386
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 1: be outside of that whole thing. In my opinion. Yep, uh,

1387
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:29,240
Speaker 1: totally agree. All right. The next thing up is um

1388
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 1: USC and l s U. We find out that they

1389
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 1: are going to be playing the kickoff game in in

1390
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. When I saw this, dude, I was excited.

1391
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:49,719
Speaker 1: I was like, bro, this is it. And because not

1392
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:54,360
Speaker 1: not I typically hate neutral site games, but parts but

1393
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 1: part and I believe that they should be home and homes.

1394
01:22:57,120 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 1: I am a firm believer on that. But say you

1395
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:03,640
Speaker 1: do have a neutral site game, they're pretty much always

1396
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 1: either at the Sugar Bowl in Atlanta or well at

1397
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 1: the Mercedes Benz Dome where the Atlanta Falcons play there

1398
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 1: either there or they are in Texas at A T

1399
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:22,960
Speaker 1: and T, And they're always very close to those teams

1400
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:25,760
Speaker 1: down in the southeast, But now this one is going

1401
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:30,960
Speaker 1: to be in Vegas, closer to USC. I love it, Ralph.

1402
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 1: I could not be any more excited about this game.

1403
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 1: My only question is is will both had current head

1404
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:42,920
Speaker 1: coaches and Clay Hilton and Ed Oderon be coaching in

1405
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 1: that game. That would be great. It would be a

1406
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 1: great storyline, would be the the to the one interim

1407
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:51,840
Speaker 1: head coach that kept the job and the one that

1408
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 1: they let go. Um, that'd be fantastic. But I don't

1409
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:57,679
Speaker 1: think so. Three years is a really long time. Clay

1410
01:23:57,720 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 1: Holton has already been the coach at USC for a

1411
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 1: really long time, and they have to kind of be

1412
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 1: perfect in order for him to keep his job. I

1413
01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna be perfect for three whole years. So, um,

1414
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:11,559
Speaker 1: I know, I do not believe. No. See see you

1415
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:14,120
Speaker 1: missed it. They don't have to be perfect for three years.

1416
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:17,800
Speaker 1: They have to be perfect for one year. If they're

1417
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:21,000
Speaker 1: perfect this year, he's going to get a contract extension,

1418
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 1: which would mean that it would it would be cost

1419
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:27,639
Speaker 1: prohibitive to fire him after that, so he only needs

1420
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:29,599
Speaker 1: to be perfect for one year and then he can

1421
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:34,600
Speaker 1: go back to healthening. I don't agree. That's that's just me.

1422
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:39,479
Speaker 1: I I do not agree. I believe that that he

1423
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 1: is out of chances, and so everything from here on

1424
01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:45,240
Speaker 1: out is just tiptoe and town the line trying to

1425
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:48,679
Speaker 1: be perfect. Um. I don't think that they will accept

1426
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 1: anything less than perfection. He might get the extension, but

1427
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:54,439
Speaker 1: how many people have been bought out of a full

1428
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 1: four or five year extension. The USC hadn't done it.

1429
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 1: But if Arizona and Arizona State can do it, h

1430
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:04,360
Speaker 1: and Arizona can do it like twice in a three

1431
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:08,800
Speaker 1: year period, I'm pretty sure us he can find a way. Yep,

1432
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 1: we saw, well, well they really may be able to

1433
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:16,800
Speaker 1: afford it by when we know how much, well by

1434
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:19,880
Speaker 1: three when we know how much the new TV money

1435
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:23,800
Speaker 1: is going to be. Um. But now onto the week

1436
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 1: zero betting lines and our Before we get to the

1437
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:31,479
Speaker 1: week zero betting lines, you brought something up about social

1438
01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 1: engagement that got me really curious. So while you were

1439
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 1: explaining the last couple of points, I actually looked up

1440
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 1: the Pack twelve Football Social immedia account rankings by followers, UM,

1441
01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:47,400
Speaker 1: but just Twitter, not Instagram or anything like that. I

1442
01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:50,040
Speaker 1: know that there there are platforms that are much more

1443
01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:51,759
Speaker 1: important than Twitter, but we kind of live and exist

1444
01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:56,719
Speaker 1: on Twitter. And so I was wondering if you think

1445
01:25:57,280 --> 01:25:59,080
Speaker 1: that you know who the top team in the Pack

1446
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:04,520
Speaker 1: twelve is as far as Twitter followers or Twitter engagement,

1447
01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 1: because those things aren't always Yeah, you know, you're right,

1448
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 1: You're right, because there's a team that that that's here

1449
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:15,880
Speaker 1: on the bottom that actually does pretty good with UM

1450
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:17,880
Speaker 1: not at the very bottom, but that that actually does

1451
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:22,080
Speaker 1: pretty good with engagement. That's still pretty pretty surprisingly low.

1452
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:24,799
Speaker 1: But who do you think has the most Twitter followers?

1453
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:31,920
Speaker 1: Probably Oregon yea. That is correct. Organized UM rounded up

1454
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 1: two thousand followers on Twitter. Yep, take a crack at

1455
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:46,800
Speaker 1: number two. Okay, it's not Oregon State. It's not Washington State,

1456
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 1: not cow not Stanford, not Arizona, not Arizona State. I'm

1457
01:26:52,560 --> 01:27:04,439
Speaker 1: either gonna go with M. Maybe you see l A. Okay,

1458
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 1: u C l A is not even in the top six.

1459
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:13,679
Speaker 1: Arizona State is number two with two Utah is number

1460
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:18,320
Speaker 1: three with a hundred and sixty thousand. They have probably

1461
01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 1: a couple hundred more unless I looked it up incorrectly,

1462
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:23,719
Speaker 1: they have a couple of hundred more than University of Washington,

1463
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:26,000
Speaker 1: which comes in at number four also with a hundred

1464
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 1: and sixty thousand. University of Arizona is number five at

1465
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 1: a thousand, And then there's only one other team in

1466
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:37,840
Speaker 1: the Pact twelve that is at about six figures when

1467
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:41,479
Speaker 1: rounded up. That's who that is? Who was that believe

1468
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 1: it or not at Stanford. To listen, bro, the these

1469
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:52,679
Speaker 1: numbers are nowhere nearing near the engagement that these teams draw.

1470
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:57,559
Speaker 1: Like like that follower count is not indicative of the

1471
01:27:57,600 --> 01:28:01,519
Speaker 1: engagement because just from like, if you mentioned something about

1472
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:05,559
Speaker 1: Arizona football, how I'm sorry, how did how is that

1473
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 1: gonna do? If? If if you write an article about

1474
01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:14,400
Speaker 1: Arizona football, the the Wildcats. I know that Jed Fish

1475
01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:16,640
Speaker 1: is bringing energy to the program and all of that.

1476
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:20,600
Speaker 1: Which one which article do you think is going to

1477
01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 1: do better Arizona? An article about Arizona or an article

1478
01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 1: about USC Well, I mean it really it really depends.

1479
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:35,920
Speaker 1: I know what I'm saying, And there's not anything scandalous

1480
01:28:36,040 --> 01:28:39,519
Speaker 1: or salacious whose fans would spread it around more. I'm

1481
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:42,160
Speaker 1: guessing that that would be usc Yep. Did you know

1482
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:44,519
Speaker 1: usc was noticeably absent from the top six? Do you

1483
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:45,720
Speaker 1: you want to know where U c l A is

1484
01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:50,240
Speaker 1: or usc uh the last? I think they have like

1485
01:28:50,439 --> 01:28:53,519
Speaker 1: fifty thousand followers or something like that on Twitter, dead

1486
01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:55,479
Speaker 1: ass last. I don't know if they didn't have a

1487
01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:57,839
Speaker 1: football accountil recently. I don't know if they got deleted.

1488
01:28:58,040 --> 01:28:59,719
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on here, but the order

1489
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 1: is Oregon A, s U Utah, Washington, Arizona, Stanford, U

1490
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:09,639
Speaker 1: c l A, Colorado, Oregon State, Washington State, which actually

1491
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:12,519
Speaker 1: the social media manager there does a really good job.

1492
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:17,080
Speaker 1: Cal AT sixty six and usc AT. I don't know

1493
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 1: how to explain that, but that's just the rankings by

1494
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:25,120
Speaker 1: Twitter followers, USC football on Instagram, which which that And

1495
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 1: I'm basing this upon my son and his teammates, right

1496
01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:33,840
Speaker 1: and the other kids. I know they are significantly more

1497
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:39,000
Speaker 1: active on so on Instagram than they are on Twitter,

1498
01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:45,640
Speaker 1: Okay Twitter. They have eight thousand followers on Instagram and

1499
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:50,120
Speaker 1: Oregon has four hundred and sixteen thousand. What is happening?

1500
01:29:50,160 --> 01:29:54,960
Speaker 1: What is going on with usc UM? Their engagement that

1501
01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 1: this is the number, dude. Okay, let's let's see what

1502
01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:05,679
Speaker 1: a s U football has. I'm looking at up now,

1503
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:10,800
Speaker 1: Arizona State football. It doesn't look like they're verified on here,

1504
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:13,559
Speaker 1: but they have twenty five thousand. Nope, that's a fan page.

1505
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:17,599
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what Arizona State. Let's check it by

1506
01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:26,920
Speaker 1: Sun Devil Sun Devil football. Here we go, seventy three thousand. Okay,

1507
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:31,760
Speaker 1: And this is my point is that the kids are

1508
01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:37,640
Speaker 1: mostly on Instagram and and there are and there's a

1509
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:41,760
Speaker 1: reason why one team is recruiting better than others on

1510
01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:44,320
Speaker 1: social media because they are more more present, they are

1511
01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:49,000
Speaker 1: seeing it more like it's just the brand has been

1512
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:55,720
Speaker 1: promoted better. So yeah, that's where we're at. I just

1513
01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:58,760
Speaker 1: that that's very very interesting to me that because you

1514
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:00,360
Speaker 1: had brought up that a s you don't get a

1515
01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:03,240
Speaker 1: whole lot of engagement. So I had checked, um, Texas

1516
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:08,679
Speaker 1: Tech would be like sixth just on that's just Twitter.

1517
01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:13,800
Speaker 1: That's just that's and I'm not sure on Instagram where

1518
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:16,160
Speaker 1: they're at. But the student okay, so here we go.

1519
01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:20,160
Speaker 1: Texas Tech football on Instagram has a hundred thousand followers,

1520
01:31:20,240 --> 01:31:22,479
Speaker 1: so they have more than Oregon, not more than Oregon,

1521
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:27,320
Speaker 1: more than USC, more than a s U. M hmm.

1522
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:32,559
Speaker 1: I don't know that that's that's interesting to me. Obviously

1523
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:36,439
Speaker 1: it's indicative of nothing, but you want a larger audience

1524
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:40,040
Speaker 1: to be able to spread your message to more people. UM,

1525
01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:42,559
Speaker 1: I don't. I wish that I had some sort of

1526
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:47,400
Speaker 1: explanation for why, uh these things are the way that

1527
01:31:47,439 --> 01:31:50,200
Speaker 1: they are. I don't think anybody on here is purchasing followers,

1528
01:31:50,240 --> 01:31:54,160
Speaker 1: because if they were, there'd be a lot more, right, right,

1529
01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:58,880
Speaker 1: that would be a very very bad thing. Um. Yeah,

1530
01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:02,879
Speaker 1: it's it's very interesting because when you look at social

1531
01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:07,800
Speaker 1: media engagement, like that's the number that people always point

1532
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:11,120
Speaker 1: to because you can have as many followers if you

1533
01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:15,920
Speaker 1: want to, but if you can't actually activate those followers

1534
01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:21,640
Speaker 1: to to do things, then there okay. So so, according

1535
01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:29,960
Speaker 1: to athletics director you Um, who is very involved with

1536
01:32:30,200 --> 01:32:34,040
Speaker 1: student athletes in in i L, according to them, the

1537
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:42,760
Speaker 1: most followed social media programs are Ohio State one, Uh,

1538
01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:48,679
Speaker 1: Oregon too, you have like and it goes down to Florida,

1539
01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:58,000
Speaker 1: Texas with Wisconsin all of those, um and huh, yeah,

1540
01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:01,439
Speaker 1: you don't have really a lot of packed ELV teams

1541
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:08,160
Speaker 1: on this list. So yeah. Oh, but most social most

1542
01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:19,280
Speaker 1: engaged social media programs, you have, um Florida one, Texas

1543
01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:26,720
Speaker 1: to then USC Arkansas, Auburn, Ohio State, Oregon, Texas, Tech, Nebraska,

1544
01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:35,920
Speaker 1: and Georgia. Interesting mm hmm yeah, yeah, we can something

1545
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:41,160
Speaker 1: today and up at social media correct. Um all right,

1546
01:33:41,320 --> 01:33:47,280
Speaker 1: the next thing up is, uh, our wind totals. So

1547
01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:50,840
Speaker 1: we were we're gonna give you guys our wind totals

1548
01:33:51,320 --> 01:33:57,120
Speaker 1: for the season and before the season starts on Saturday,

1549
01:33:57,200 --> 01:34:01,080
Speaker 1: so we can keep account It is Ralph's job to

1550
01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:06,599
Speaker 1: keep account of this all year. And um, so what

1551
01:34:06,640 --> 01:34:10,000
Speaker 1: do we have for wind totals? So because we're gonna,

1552
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:13,080
Speaker 1: you know, be able to crown a champion at the

1553
01:34:13,240 --> 01:34:17,559
Speaker 1: end of this season. Um, but between me and between

1554
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:20,640
Speaker 1: me and you, so who do you? So? Can you

1555
01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:24,400
Speaker 1: give us the win totals? And we'll say over or under? Yeah,

1556
01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:28,840
Speaker 1: I can do that. Um. So let's start off, let's

1557
01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:34,719
Speaker 1: just go uh, we'll go from lowest to highest right now.

1558
01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:39,439
Speaker 1: Um bet MGM Sports Books regular season win totals for

1559
01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:41,800
Speaker 1: the sixty Power five teams is what I'm looking at.

1560
01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:45,640
Speaker 1: Here they have University of Arizona at two and a

1561
01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:50,599
Speaker 1: half winds over or under two and a half George. Okay,

1562
01:34:50,680 --> 01:35:00,280
Speaker 1: so Arizona has this season, they play, uh, they play

1563
01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:06,599
Speaker 1: obviously their normal Yeah, they played our normal South schedule.

1564
01:35:06,760 --> 01:35:14,360
Speaker 1: They play b y U, San Diego State, Northern Arizona, Oregon, Washington,

1565
01:35:15,200 --> 01:35:19,880
Speaker 1: Cow and Washington State out of the north two and

1566
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:22,840
Speaker 1: two and a half wins. So I'm gonna give them

1567
01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:29,439
Speaker 1: Northern Arizona for sure. I'm gonna give them San Diego State,

1568
01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:35,880
Speaker 1: and I think that they slip up and beats I

1569
01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:40,040
Speaker 1: can't find another win for him. Bro Um, it's the

1570
01:35:40,160 --> 01:35:44,320
Speaker 1: b y you all right, I'm gonna go over two

1571
01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:49,639
Speaker 1: and a half wins for them. I will take the under,

1572
01:35:49,840 --> 01:35:51,720
Speaker 1: and I'm not being difficult. I'm just going with my

1573
01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:54,400
Speaker 1: wind totals that already had in place, just to be fair.

1574
01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:56,720
Speaker 1: I'm even though I know I'm probably wrong about some

1575
01:35:56,760 --> 01:35:58,960
Speaker 1: of these and we have new information, I'm making no

1576
01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:02,200
Speaker 1: adjustments whatsoever. I have learned nothing. I will take the

1577
01:36:02,280 --> 01:36:06,240
Speaker 1: under on University of Arizona. And I don't know if

1578
01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:09,120
Speaker 1: they win a conference game, Okay, also don't know if

1579
01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:12,840
Speaker 1: they beat an AU. Is that bad? Yes, that's that's

1580
01:36:12,880 --> 01:36:15,160
Speaker 1: really bad. If they don't. They gave up almost fifty

1581
01:36:15,200 --> 01:36:17,960
Speaker 1: to any of you last time they played, remember, correct,

1582
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:20,320
Speaker 1: and I was like two years ago. Um, so it'll

1583
01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:22,040
Speaker 1: be I mean it'll be, it'll be interesting. And he

1584
01:36:22,200 --> 01:36:27,000
Speaker 1: was not terrible. They're not good, but they're not terrible. Uh,

1585
01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:30,320
Speaker 1: they can score. So we'll see, we'll see how that goes.

1586
01:36:30,920 --> 01:36:35,240
Speaker 1: Let's see. Next up is Stanford believe it or not,

1587
01:36:35,479 --> 01:36:41,240
Speaker 1: four wins. But they have Stanford with four wins. That

1588
01:36:41,439 --> 01:36:49,240
Speaker 1: is correct? All right, So Stanford's non conference is Kansas State,

1589
01:36:49,439 --> 01:36:53,200
Speaker 1: Notre Dame, and Vanderbilt. They're gonna beat Vanderbilt. They're gonna

1590
01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:58,120
Speaker 1: beat Kansas State. They're gonna wait, it's four and a

1591
01:36:58,160 --> 01:37:04,360
Speaker 1: half wins. I mean, this is so. I'm reading the

1592
01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:09,400
Speaker 1: bet MGM blog as of June tenth, the regular season

1593
01:37:09,439 --> 01:37:13,400
Speaker 1: win totals. Over give me the over, give me the over.

1594
01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:16,599
Speaker 1: Four and a half. It's just four. It's not even four.

1595
01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:19,080
Speaker 1: It's it's not even four and a half. It's four.

1596
01:37:19,160 --> 01:37:22,519
Speaker 1: Oh bro, give me, Oh my god. I'm I don't

1597
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:26,880
Speaker 1: even bet on these things. And now I'm considering actually betting. Yeah,

1598
01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:28,960
Speaker 1: I have them at almost double that. I had them

1599
01:37:28,960 --> 01:37:30,880
Speaker 1: going seven and five, So I would gladly take the

1600
01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:37,840
Speaker 1: over on that. Okay, all right. Um, next team, Okay,

1601
01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:44,439
Speaker 1: Colorado at four and a half. I don't know if

1602
01:37:44,479 --> 01:37:48,240
Speaker 1: I like that. They obviously have a new head coach,

1603
01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:53,720
Speaker 1: Um well in Carl the Rail. I don't count last year,

1604
01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:58,840
Speaker 1: so they have Northern Colorado is a win. They play

1605
01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:02,320
Speaker 1: at Texas A and m oh wait, no, no, no no,

1606
01:38:02,479 --> 01:38:05,720
Speaker 1: they actually played a game in Denver um at Mile

1607
01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:09,400
Speaker 1: High Stadium. They're they're gonna get absolutely boat raced in

1608
01:38:09,439 --> 01:38:14,320
Speaker 1: that game. Uh, Minnesota. See they don't have a quarterback,

1609
01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:17,160
Speaker 1: so and it's four and a half wins. I'm going

1610
01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:19,400
Speaker 1: I'm just taking I'm taking it under because they don't

1611
01:38:19,400 --> 01:38:22,559
Speaker 1: have a quarterback. I am also taking me under though

1612
01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:24,559
Speaker 1: I do love their quarterback and I think he could

1613
01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:27,840
Speaker 1: do some damage if they keep him up right. He

1614
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:31,840
Speaker 1: is pretty big for a for a freshman. Physically, he's uh,

1615
01:38:32,160 --> 01:38:34,400
Speaker 1: he's not somebody who's I think gonna be too fragile.

1616
01:38:34,479 --> 01:38:36,160
Speaker 1: So but I have them going three and nine, so

1617
01:38:36,240 --> 01:38:39,960
Speaker 1: I will also, along with you take the under that

1618
01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:43,439
Speaker 1: brings us to I think we have cal Or the

1619
01:38:43,520 --> 01:38:50,760
Speaker 1: Oregon State four and a half wins. M hmmm. They're

1620
01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:55,040
Speaker 1: non conferences at Perdue, which I think they can win

1621
01:38:57,120 --> 01:39:01,599
Speaker 1: the Rainbow Warriors of Hawaii in Idaho. So they should

1622
01:39:01,640 --> 01:39:06,000
Speaker 1: be worst case scenario two in one. I think they

1623
01:39:06,360 --> 01:39:09,759
Speaker 1: they'll they'll have a chance to beat Washington State, they'll

1624
01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:14,559
Speaker 1: beat color They'll have a chance to beat Colorado. I

1625
01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:17,519
Speaker 1: can't find other wins for them, I am, and it's

1626
01:39:17,520 --> 01:39:19,920
Speaker 1: four and a half or four four and a half.

1627
01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:28,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the under Okay, I will join

1628
01:39:28,160 --> 01:39:31,920
Speaker 1: you on that. I have them going three and nine,

1629
01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:34,960
Speaker 1: fifth place in the Pact twelve South. That brings us

1630
01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:41,080
Speaker 1: to cal Six wins for your boy, Chase Carvers, who

1631
01:39:41,160 --> 01:39:47,480
Speaker 1: you love, and I don't Okay, they play Nevada TCU

1632
01:39:47,680 --> 01:39:52,760
Speaker 1: in Sacramento State, they'll go three and oh in those games.

1633
01:39:53,479 --> 01:39:56,840
Speaker 1: Then they'll be like Washington State, Oh, they got Colorado,

1634
01:39:57,240 --> 01:40:02,160
Speaker 1: Oregon State, eras Zona to oh Man to give me.

1635
01:40:02,320 --> 01:40:07,599
Speaker 1: Give me the over, bro, give me the over over

1636
01:40:07,760 --> 01:40:12,400
Speaker 1: six not even a push. I mean, I mean, I

1637
01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:15,639
Speaker 1: I'm taking the the over. But you know a push

1638
01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:22,200
Speaker 1: is not a loss. I don't. I don't agree. It's

1639
01:40:22,200 --> 01:40:25,479
Speaker 1: not a win. Yeah it's not. It's like kissing your sister, bro,

1640
01:40:25,560 --> 01:40:27,679
Speaker 1: but at least you get your money back. No, kissing

1641
01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:29,599
Speaker 1: your sister is an l I might be from Wyoming.

1642
01:40:29,640 --> 01:40:35,040
Speaker 1: But even I know that, Okay, so I will take

1643
01:40:35,080 --> 01:40:37,200
Speaker 1: the under. I have them going five and seven because

1644
01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:43,559
Speaker 1: I'm a hater Washington State six wins Nick Rolovich? Will

1645
01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:47,320
Speaker 1: he even be the coach for six games? They're they're

1646
01:40:47,320 --> 01:40:51,120
Speaker 1: at six and a half or six six flats, damn

1647
01:40:51,320 --> 01:40:58,439
Speaker 1: bro Okay, So they're non conferences Utah State, Portland's state,

1648
01:40:59,120 --> 01:41:04,200
Speaker 1: and I can't find find the other one Utah State,

1649
01:41:04,240 --> 01:41:12,639
Speaker 1: Portland's state. Oh and b y U. So, so they're

1650
01:41:12,640 --> 01:41:17,920
Speaker 1: gonna be Utah State in Portland State by US a

1651
01:41:18,040 --> 01:41:21,080
Speaker 1: toss up, so that gives me two and a half.

1652
01:41:23,080 --> 01:41:27,240
Speaker 1: They they should beat Arizona, which gives them four three

1653
01:41:27,280 --> 01:41:30,960
Speaker 1: and a half. I don't see them getting the six,

1654
01:41:31,080 --> 01:41:36,120
Speaker 1: so no, no, give me the under. Okay. I have

1655
01:41:36,200 --> 01:41:39,639
Speaker 1: him going five and seven as well, So that would

1656
01:41:39,640 --> 01:41:42,800
Speaker 1: mean that I am taking me under six along with you.

1657
01:41:43,320 --> 01:41:45,519
Speaker 1: I think we're matched up on about half of these

1658
01:41:45,720 --> 01:41:50,000
Speaker 1: by this point. U c l A seven. Oh, I

1659
01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:56,800
Speaker 1: don't need the over over over over how how over?

1660
01:41:56,920 --> 01:42:00,840
Speaker 1: That sounds very confident. I might actually this along with

1661
01:42:00,880 --> 01:42:03,479
Speaker 1: that other bet. I said, dude, I might actually lay

1662
01:42:03,520 --> 01:42:08,640
Speaker 1: these bets myself, because putting money on on on U

1663
01:42:08,680 --> 01:42:12,439
Speaker 1: C L A and Stanford. Yep. Oh god, the Stanford, dude,

1664
01:42:12,439 --> 01:42:17,080
Speaker 1: that's a layup. Um Hawaii, they're gonna be Hawaii. They're

1665
01:42:17,080 --> 01:42:20,479
Speaker 1: gonna beat Fresno State. I got them beating U L.

1666
01:42:20,640 --> 01:42:26,760
Speaker 1: S U two. Um, they're gonna beat Colorado. They're gonna

1667
01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:32,200
Speaker 1: beat cal probably USC Arizona. Dude, this is a dude.

1668
01:42:32,240 --> 01:42:36,840
Speaker 1: This team to win in nine games. Bro Okay, I

1669
01:42:36,880 --> 01:42:38,360
Speaker 1: have them at eight and four, so I'm with you.

1670
01:42:38,520 --> 01:42:40,040
Speaker 1: I'm with you on the over and I feel pretty

1671
01:42:40,040 --> 01:42:45,320
Speaker 1: confident about the eating for as well. Let's see who

1672
01:42:45,400 --> 01:42:48,040
Speaker 1: is next on our list as far as packed twelve teams.

1673
01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:51,479
Speaker 1: I think it's USC. USC is currently eight and a

1674
01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:56,000
Speaker 1: half and that is wild to me. That's as wild

1675
01:42:56,080 --> 01:42:59,200
Speaker 1: as the Stanford one. USC's at eight and a half,

1676
01:42:59,560 --> 01:43:03,160
Speaker 1: eight and a. Yeah, dude, do you know what this

1677
01:43:03,320 --> 01:43:09,000
Speaker 1: says about Clay Helton? Like what people think about Clay

1678
01:43:09,040 --> 01:43:12,519
Speaker 1: Helton because they're very talented, but they can't run run

1679
01:43:12,560 --> 01:43:15,400
Speaker 1: the football. They're gonna beat San Jose State just because

1680
01:43:15,400 --> 01:43:19,360
Speaker 1: they're more talented. They're gonna if David Shaw has Stanford

1681
01:43:19,400 --> 01:43:23,400
Speaker 1: any good, they're going to play really well at Stanford. Um,

1682
01:43:23,640 --> 01:43:26,880
Speaker 1: I mean sorry, they are going to struggle with Stanford.

1683
01:43:28,360 --> 01:43:31,720
Speaker 1: They don't play Oregon. They do play Notre Dame, which

1684
01:43:31,760 --> 01:43:36,800
Speaker 1: they will probably lose to man Bro. I've gotta go

1685
01:43:37,040 --> 01:43:42,320
Speaker 1: with over because I think they're gonna get to nine wins. Yeah,

1686
01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:45,600
Speaker 1: but it's not gonna be pretty. That's that's the thing

1687
01:43:45,640 --> 01:43:49,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's not gonna be pretty. I have them

1688
01:43:49,760 --> 01:43:54,720
Speaker 1: at ten and two, so I'm with you. I think

1689
01:43:54,840 --> 01:43:56,479
Speaker 1: they even have a shot, to me to win the

1690
01:43:56,560 --> 01:43:59,599
Speaker 1: letting games. I think they're in trouble if they at

1691
01:43:59,640 --> 01:44:01,640
Speaker 1: least Staff has in trouble if they don't get to

1692
01:44:01,680 --> 01:44:04,960
Speaker 1: at least ten wins. I would yes, I would agree

1693
01:44:05,000 --> 01:44:08,599
Speaker 1: with though unless those two losses that are against Notre

1694
01:44:08,720 --> 01:44:11,080
Speaker 1: Dame in u c l A. If they lose both

1695
01:44:11,120 --> 01:44:14,160
Speaker 1: of those, If those are the only two games they lose,

1696
01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:17,960
Speaker 1: that would be a very twelve championship probably. That would

1697
01:44:17,960 --> 01:44:20,720
Speaker 1: be a very Clay Healton thing to do, right, to

1698
01:44:20,880 --> 01:44:23,519
Speaker 1: go tend into with losses to Notre Dame in U

1699
01:44:23,560 --> 01:44:25,559
Speaker 1: c l A. I think my two losses I gave

1700
01:44:25,640 --> 01:44:31,799
Speaker 1: him were a s U and Notre Dame. Yeah. Uh, okay,

1701
01:44:32,040 --> 01:44:34,320
Speaker 1: let's see who we have next. For some reason, I

1702
01:44:34,360 --> 01:44:35,880
Speaker 1: don't see Utah on this list, So I'm gonna have

1703
01:44:35,880 --> 01:44:38,759
Speaker 1: to double back and find them Arizona State at nine?

1704
01:44:43,160 --> 01:44:46,160
Speaker 1: Do they are bullish on them because you you have

1705
01:44:46,280 --> 01:44:48,640
Speaker 1: them going to undefeat it, right? No? I have them

1706
01:44:48,680 --> 01:44:52,080
Speaker 1: losing to Stanford, so Lemon and one. Okay, so they

1707
01:44:52,160 --> 01:44:55,160
Speaker 1: got Southern Utah, U, n l V and b y U.

1708
01:44:55,320 --> 01:44:57,800
Speaker 1: They better not lose one of those nine conference games

1709
01:44:58,360 --> 01:45:01,760
Speaker 1: they stay away from. Oh, they don't have Oregon or

1710
01:45:01,880 --> 01:45:06,840
Speaker 1: Washington on the schedule. No oh no no no, no, no, no, no, sorry,

1711
01:45:07,040 --> 01:45:11,880
Speaker 1: they do play at Washington. When they play at Washington, Dude,

1712
01:45:12,040 --> 01:45:16,320
Speaker 1: this schedule is cake, bro. It's not bad. It's not bad.

1713
01:45:16,400 --> 01:45:18,680
Speaker 1: It's not Okay, Stanford schedules the rough one, I think.

1714
01:45:18,880 --> 01:45:22,439
Speaker 1: So I got them losing at Washington, usc U, c

1715
01:45:22,680 --> 01:45:32,439
Speaker 1: L A ah. I'm gonna take the under, but but

1716
01:45:32,680 --> 01:45:36,640
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna push. Actually, can't, I mean, can

1717
01:45:36,720 --> 01:45:40,320
Speaker 1: I can? I can I vote push? I mean that's

1718
01:45:40,640 --> 01:45:43,760
Speaker 1: a higher risk. That's like being Zeros and Roulette, isn't it. Yeah?

1719
01:45:44,720 --> 01:45:51,360
Speaker 1: All right, I'm I'm voting push. Oh okay, no, no, no, no, no,

1720
01:45:51,720 --> 01:45:55,280
Speaker 1: I'm taking the under. So what's crazy about this is

1721
01:45:55,360 --> 01:45:58,000
Speaker 1: you have to factor in that a bolt like these are?

1722
01:45:58,120 --> 01:46:00,920
Speaker 1: Are these just regular season because old games factor and

1723
01:46:01,040 --> 01:46:04,759
Speaker 1: I'm factoring in regular season. I'm only counting regular season,

1724
01:46:04,960 --> 01:46:06,920
Speaker 1: and it says this is the regular season win total.

1725
01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:08,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm gonna give him. I'm gonna give the

1726
01:46:09,000 --> 01:46:10,800
Speaker 1: other I'm a at eleven and one. I don't I'm

1727
01:46:10,840 --> 01:46:13,479
Speaker 1: not changing I'm not changing up on that one. Now,

1728
01:46:14,360 --> 01:46:16,599
Speaker 1: we have two other teams that are also at nine wins.

1729
01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:18,080
Speaker 1: And again, like I said, I have to hunt down

1730
01:46:18,160 --> 01:46:21,640
Speaker 1: Utah here, but Oregon and Washington are both also with

1731
01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:28,679
Speaker 1: Arizona State at nine wins overall. Okay, so I'm taking

1732
01:46:28,760 --> 01:46:37,080
Speaker 1: the over on the Ducks. What do you have them at? I? Uh,

1733
01:46:37,360 --> 01:46:41,840
Speaker 1: sleep in big time eighting for oh my god, yeah,

1734
01:46:41,960 --> 01:46:45,360
Speaker 1: oh I remember laughing at you over this. Yeah yeah yeah,

1735
01:46:45,360 --> 01:46:46,920
Speaker 1: And I've I've come to have second thoughts, but i

1736
01:46:46,960 --> 01:46:50,280
Speaker 1: gotta stand my ground. Um. And it's not second thoughts

1737
01:46:50,320 --> 01:46:53,320
Speaker 1: on Anthony Brown. I think he's good but not great. Um.

1738
01:46:53,720 --> 01:46:55,680
Speaker 1: I think eight and for the whole program would be

1739
01:46:55,760 --> 01:46:59,880
Speaker 1: pretty piste off. But um yeah, So I'm gonna have

1740
01:46:59,920 --> 01:47:02,559
Speaker 1: to take the under on Oregon and then I actually

1741
01:47:02,680 --> 01:47:05,920
Speaker 1: had I think I had Washington at ten wins so

1742
01:47:06,120 --> 01:47:10,280
Speaker 1: I gotta go the over on Washington. Well, Washington has

1743
01:47:10,520 --> 01:47:15,479
Speaker 1: their nonconference in Montana, Arkansas State in Michigan, so there

1744
01:47:16,000 --> 01:47:17,800
Speaker 1: they have a good chance to go in three. And no,

1745
01:47:19,160 --> 01:47:22,200
Speaker 1: they can't lose that Michigan game. That would be a really,

1746
01:47:22,320 --> 01:47:25,040
Speaker 1: really bad loss. Will be a lot of pressure on

1747
01:47:25,120 --> 01:47:27,960
Speaker 1: them for sure. Yeah. Speak speaking of pressure, we gotta

1748
01:47:27,960 --> 01:47:31,320
Speaker 1: get to this Chip Kelly quote, uh that he that

1749
01:47:31,439 --> 01:47:36,679
Speaker 1: he gave to dtr his quarterback Dorian Thompson Robinson. Okay, pressure.

1750
01:47:36,840 --> 01:47:39,000
Speaker 1: Pressure is a feeling that you get when you don't

1751
01:47:39,000 --> 01:47:42,439
Speaker 1: know what you're doing. Yes, I've I've heard that a lot.

1752
01:47:43,439 --> 01:47:49,880
Speaker 1: Interesting Yeah, um so all right, and then Arizona I'm sorry,

1753
01:47:50,160 --> 01:47:56,479
Speaker 1: and then you dub I have them. This is another

1754
01:47:56,600 --> 01:48:01,640
Speaker 1: push because they're they're non conferences soft. So aside from

1755
01:48:01,680 --> 01:48:04,799
Speaker 1: the Michigan game, I mean, so is So's Oregans aside

1756
01:48:04,840 --> 01:48:09,360
Speaker 1: from the Ohio State game, but it's better than Washington's. Um,

1757
01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:17,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with I'm gonna push Washington. I'm going

1758
01:48:17,880 --> 01:48:21,360
Speaker 1: with the push, actually going for the push. I'm not

1759
01:48:21,439 --> 01:48:23,519
Speaker 1: taking it over, not taking under. I'm going for the push.

1760
01:48:24,120 --> 01:48:32,160
Speaker 1: That's wild. Nine wins on both that's wild. Um so

1761
01:48:32,360 --> 01:48:34,760
Speaker 1: I am not being able to find I'm looking for

1762
01:48:37,000 --> 01:48:41,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna check betting betting insider for Utah because it

1763
01:48:41,880 --> 01:48:44,840
Speaker 1: wasn't on the MGM one for some reason. And they

1764
01:48:44,960 --> 01:48:50,960
Speaker 1: have Utah at eight and a half wins regular season

1765
01:48:51,000 --> 01:48:54,439
Speaker 1: win total eight and a half for Utah. Alright, Utah

1766
01:48:54,640 --> 01:48:59,519
Speaker 1: at eight and a half. They're non conference obviously always

1767
01:48:59,600 --> 01:49:02,559
Speaker 1: feature b y U, but they also got San Diego

1768
01:49:02,680 --> 01:49:06,200
Speaker 1: State State in Weber State. They should be three and oh.

1769
01:49:07,439 --> 01:49:13,680
Speaker 1: Then from there they're going to have some games. So

1770
01:49:13,880 --> 01:49:21,360
Speaker 1: that's three, four against Arizona, UM, yeah, four against Arizona,

1771
01:49:21,479 --> 01:49:26,960
Speaker 1: five against Colorado, six, maybe against Oregon State, seven, maybe

1772
01:49:27,040 --> 01:49:32,840
Speaker 1: against Arizona State. I'm going I'm taking the under on them.

1773
01:49:34,360 --> 01:49:36,439
Speaker 1: I am taking that as well. I have them at

1774
01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:39,680
Speaker 1: eight and four and fourth place in the back of

1775
01:49:39,800 --> 01:49:43,400
Speaker 1: South Um, which it sounds like kind of Winningham would

1776
01:49:43,439 --> 01:49:46,080
Speaker 1: disagree with that pretty pretty heavily. He's he's kind of

1777
01:49:46,120 --> 01:49:49,160
Speaker 1: been hyping this team up. So, um, oh, are you

1778
01:49:49,280 --> 01:49:52,960
Speaker 1: taking the over on Washington or the under over on Washington?

1779
01:49:54,120 --> 01:49:58,160
Speaker 1: All right, So to to recap super quick, Arizona two

1780
01:49:58,200 --> 01:50:03,439
Speaker 1: and a half. I got the over, Ralph has the under. Stanford, UM,

1781
01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:06,680
Speaker 1: I'm taking the over four and a half. Ralph's got

1782
01:50:06,840 --> 01:50:11,000
Speaker 1: over Colorado. It's four It's four flat like this. I've

1783
01:50:11,080 --> 01:50:13,439
Speaker 1: checked other websites. It is four flat on those as well.

1784
01:50:13,760 --> 01:50:17,160
Speaker 1: In fact, when I was checking other websites betting, the

1785
01:50:17,280 --> 01:50:24,320
Speaker 1: over is plus one hundred. Wow. Oh Jesus. Wise, all right,

1786
01:50:24,400 --> 01:50:28,000
Speaker 1: I'm going Colorado. Well, Colorado, I got the over at

1787
01:50:28,040 --> 01:50:29,920
Speaker 1: four and a Wait did I take the over for

1788
01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:33,599
Speaker 1: Colorado at four and a half. I don't think you did? Yeah?

1789
01:50:33,640 --> 01:50:37,960
Speaker 1: I was like, that seems it seems no. I'm pretty

1790
01:50:38,000 --> 01:50:40,320
Speaker 1: I'm willing to guarantee that you did not know. Yeah,

1791
01:50:40,400 --> 01:50:44,519
Speaker 1: I did not. I'm glad we are recapping this because

1792
01:50:44,560 --> 01:50:46,040
Speaker 1: if I look back at this, I'd be like, how

1793
01:50:46,080 --> 01:50:48,680
Speaker 1: did you take Colorado? I got under at four and

1794
01:50:48,720 --> 01:50:52,280
Speaker 1: a half. Ralph's got the under as well. Uh for

1795
01:50:53,920 --> 01:50:56,560
Speaker 1: Oregon State. We both have the under at four and

1796
01:50:56,600 --> 01:50:59,960
Speaker 1: a half at Cow at six, I got the old,

1797
01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:03,600
Speaker 1: where Ralph's got the under Washington State at six. We

1798
01:51:03,760 --> 01:51:06,479
Speaker 1: both have the under U C l A at seven.

1799
01:51:06,600 --> 01:51:09,639
Speaker 1: We both have the over USC at eight and a half,

1800
01:51:09,720 --> 01:51:12,599
Speaker 1: we both have the over a s U at nine.

1801
01:51:12,840 --> 01:51:15,920
Speaker 1: I have the under, you have the over Oregon at nine.

1802
01:51:16,120 --> 01:51:19,479
Speaker 1: I have the over. You have the under Washington at nine.

1803
01:51:19,640 --> 01:51:23,120
Speaker 1: I'm pushing you got the over, and we both have

1804
01:51:23,280 --> 01:51:28,519
Speaker 1: the under at Utah eight and a half. So all right,

1805
01:51:29,000 --> 01:51:32,880
Speaker 1: next thing up of the week zero games. So there's

1806
01:51:32,920 --> 01:51:36,200
Speaker 1: one Pack twelve team playing in Week zero and that

1807
01:51:36,479 --> 01:51:40,040
Speaker 1: is Hawaii versus U c l A. Ralph has a

1808
01:51:40,120 --> 01:51:43,360
Speaker 1: vested interest in this game and U c l A

1809
01:51:43,720 --> 01:51:49,280
Speaker 1: is favored by uh They are seventeen and a half

1810
01:51:49,920 --> 01:51:53,400
Speaker 1: and the over under is one sixty eight and a half.

1811
01:51:56,360 --> 01:52:06,519
Speaker 1: So id and a half? Was my god? Whoa at

1812
01:52:06,560 --> 01:52:12,000
Speaker 1: the old school? Todd Graham? No defense at all, my lord? Okay, okay,

1813
01:52:12,080 --> 01:52:14,920
Speaker 1: so well let's get into let's get into Hawaii a

1814
01:52:14,960 --> 01:52:17,920
Speaker 1: little bit. Let's talk about this team. And this is

1815
01:52:18,000 --> 01:52:22,000
Speaker 1: Todd Graham. For those who are familiar with his work

1816
01:52:22,160 --> 01:52:26,360
Speaker 1: in the Pac twelve. He did have to ten win seasons,

1817
01:52:26,920 --> 01:52:30,880
Speaker 1: including playing for a Pack twelve championship against Stanford in

1818
01:52:31,000 --> 01:52:36,439
Speaker 1: Sundeville Stadium. They went into the team they went into

1819
01:52:36,439 --> 01:52:42,080
Speaker 1: the season after a giant upset against USC on what

1820
01:52:42,200 --> 01:52:45,240
Speaker 1: it's called the jail Mary Mike burke Vici um hitting

1821
01:52:45,320 --> 01:52:47,439
Speaker 1: Jalen Strong in the end zone against USC. They went

1822
01:52:47,479 --> 01:52:51,400
Speaker 1: into genuinely believing that they had the opportunity to win

1823
01:52:51,439 --> 01:52:56,240
Speaker 1: a national championship. That season ended, I believe with them

1824
01:52:56,600 --> 01:53:01,560
Speaker 1: losing um right a bit and having one of the

1825
01:53:01,600 --> 01:53:04,640
Speaker 1: worst defenses in all of college football. It was kind

1826
01:53:04,680 --> 01:53:06,639
Speaker 1: of a disappointment From there. They were there a little

1827
01:53:06,640 --> 01:53:08,400
Speaker 1: bit middling. They had one year where they started off

1828
01:53:08,439 --> 01:53:10,960
Speaker 1: four and one and finished four and eight. Um, they

1829
01:53:11,000 --> 01:53:13,600
Speaker 1: had one, I believe, an eight one season in a

1830
01:53:13,600 --> 01:53:16,240
Speaker 1: seven one season after that, and Ray Anderson got rid

1831
01:53:16,280 --> 01:53:19,560
Speaker 1: of Todd Graham for HERM Edwards his old client, and

1832
01:53:19,720 --> 01:53:24,360
Speaker 1: so uh Todd Graham was He definitely was kind of

1833
01:53:24,400 --> 01:53:26,880
Speaker 1: an interesting experiment at Arizona State. Not a lot of

1834
01:53:26,920 --> 01:53:28,720
Speaker 1: people liked when he was hired, and that a lot

1835
01:53:28,760 --> 01:53:32,000
Speaker 1: of people didn't like that he was um given up on.

1836
01:53:32,120 --> 01:53:34,720
Speaker 1: He built kind of a loyal following, helped raise money

1837
01:53:34,720 --> 01:53:38,080
Speaker 1: for the stadium. He's a talker, he's a he's he's

1838
01:53:38,120 --> 01:53:40,360
Speaker 1: a he's a Texas high school football coach turned major

1839
01:53:40,400 --> 01:53:43,120
Speaker 1: college football coach. He's out there at University of Hawaii.

1840
01:53:43,160 --> 01:53:46,720
Speaker 1: They had moderate success last year. UM. He took over

1841
01:53:46,760 --> 01:53:49,200
Speaker 1: for Nick Rolovich where they had the run and shoot.

1842
01:53:49,600 --> 01:53:52,240
Speaker 1: Todd Graham did lose Brennan Marion as one of his

1843
01:53:53,200 --> 01:53:56,880
Speaker 1: valued offensive staff members, who is now the offensive coordinator

1844
01:53:56,880 --> 01:53:59,000
Speaker 1: I believe at the University of Pittsburgh. So they've had

1845
01:53:59,040 --> 01:54:02,599
Speaker 1: some staff turn over, which he's definitely used to. UM

1846
01:54:02,840 --> 01:54:04,920
Speaker 1: now they have they're not able to play in front

1847
01:54:04,960 --> 01:54:08,240
Speaker 1: of fans at home, so that's kind of, UM a

1848
01:54:08,280 --> 01:54:10,080
Speaker 1: little bit of a wrinkle. They were the first domino

1849
01:54:10,240 --> 01:54:15,360
Speaker 1: to fall on on that whole thing, so UM, that's

1850
01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:17,200
Speaker 1: a little bit about them. They have a pretty good

1851
01:54:17,280 --> 01:54:22,959
Speaker 1: running game. They they have kind of a questionable uh defense,

1852
01:54:24,000 --> 01:54:27,240
Speaker 1: and they just released their depth chart and for the

1853
01:54:27,400 --> 01:54:30,200
Speaker 1: most part, it's not anybody that a lot of Pack

1854
01:54:30,280 --> 01:54:36,480
Speaker 1: twelve fans are going to recognize. Chavon Cordierro is their quarterback.

1855
01:54:36,560 --> 01:54:39,320
Speaker 1: He threw for two thousand yards last season, fourteen touchdown

1856
01:54:39,440 --> 01:54:44,760
Speaker 1: sixty fourteen touchdown, six interceptions completion. He also ran for

1857
01:54:44,800 --> 01:54:50,720
Speaker 1: five and seven touchdowns. He is dangerous. UM At running back,

1858
01:54:50,800 --> 01:54:54,840
Speaker 1: they have day Day Hunter, who is somebody who played

1859
01:54:54,920 --> 01:54:57,520
Speaker 1: in the state of Arizona high school football. I watched

1860
01:54:57,600 --> 01:55:00,840
Speaker 1: him play quite a bit. He is very good, but

1861
01:55:01,040 --> 01:55:04,120
Speaker 1: super inexperienced. He didn't really play. I think he got

1862
01:55:04,160 --> 01:55:07,880
Speaker 1: forty six handoffs last year. UM as a true freshman.

1863
01:55:08,520 --> 01:55:10,960
Speaker 1: They where where I feel like they've taken a dip

1864
01:55:11,400 --> 01:55:15,080
Speaker 1: is they were very strong at receiver under Nick Rolovich

1865
01:55:15,400 --> 01:55:19,640
Speaker 1: and they're there. Um, I don't know they they Jared

1866
01:55:19,720 --> 01:55:21,960
Speaker 1: Smart was with Nick Rolovich. He's a thousand yard receiver

1867
01:55:22,040 --> 01:55:24,160
Speaker 1: two years ago. They still have him. And then they

1868
01:55:24,200 --> 01:55:26,960
Speaker 1: have a six ft six receiver who could be dangerous

1869
01:55:27,360 --> 01:55:31,440
Speaker 1: in Nick Bardner Um. And other than that, I mean,

1870
01:55:31,600 --> 01:55:34,120
Speaker 1: I I covered a couple of their offensive linemen. Ill

1871
01:55:34,240 --> 01:55:36,560
Speaker 1: Manning and Mike Vanderpool are both guys that I covered

1872
01:55:36,600 --> 01:55:41,840
Speaker 1: in high school. They're okay, they're very experienced. Uh, where

1873
01:55:41,880 --> 01:55:43,760
Speaker 1: they're going to be dangerous it was on offense. Where

1874
01:55:43,760 --> 01:55:46,760
Speaker 1: I think that they're really gonna struggle is on defense.

1875
01:55:46,800 --> 01:55:50,240
Speaker 1: They're a little bit undersized. I think their linebackers are

1876
01:55:50,320 --> 01:55:54,160
Speaker 1: their team captains. Everything, Uh, for this for this Hawaii

1877
01:55:54,200 --> 01:55:57,360
Speaker 1: team is going to depend on whether Cortez Davis, Cameron Lockridge,

1878
01:55:57,440 --> 01:56:01,320
Speaker 1: Corey Bethy, and chima A Zuna, their defensive backs can

1879
01:56:02,040 --> 01:56:04,800
Speaker 1: do anything really against some of these teams that they're

1880
01:56:04,800 --> 01:56:07,040
Speaker 1: going to be playing in the Pac twelve in the

1881
01:56:07,080 --> 01:56:10,879
Speaker 1: Mountain West. And that is your short overview of University

1882
01:56:10,920 --> 01:56:14,360
Speaker 1: of Hawaii football. It's gonna be kind of an Arizona

1883
01:56:14,400 --> 01:56:18,520
Speaker 1: State system, which is kind of a rich Rod system. UM,

1884
01:56:19,160 --> 01:56:23,080
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be run with Mountain West talent. There

1885
01:56:23,200 --> 01:56:26,480
Speaker 1: is no reason on earth U c l A should

1886
01:56:26,520 --> 01:56:29,040
Speaker 1: be losing this game or losing on the spread. What

1887
01:56:29,200 --> 01:56:33,640
Speaker 1: is the spread again, George and a half? Seventeen and

1888
01:56:33,680 --> 01:56:40,680
Speaker 1: a half. That being said, Chip Kelly has never won

1889
01:56:40,720 --> 01:56:43,440
Speaker 1: and out of conference game he's owing eight o nine

1890
01:56:44,080 --> 01:56:50,080
Speaker 1: something like that. UM, seventeen is about where I'm comfortable.

1891
01:56:52,080 --> 01:56:56,440
Speaker 1: So what are you saying Hawaii will cover? I think

1892
01:56:56,480 --> 01:57:01,000
Speaker 1: a seventeen point win is reasonable. M So you're taking

1893
01:57:01,080 --> 01:57:04,720
Speaker 1: the under. I am not taking the under. I am

1894
01:57:04,800 --> 01:57:09,320
Speaker 1: taking Hawaii to cover the seven. Okay, Okay, okay, yeah, okay,

1895
01:57:10,920 --> 01:57:15,400
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna take U c l A minus

1896
01:57:15,400 --> 01:57:19,920
Speaker 1: seventeen and a half. Okay, I'm I'm gonna take them

1897
01:57:20,000 --> 01:57:25,320
Speaker 1: to cover. Okay. The game is going to be played

1898
01:57:25,440 --> 01:57:31,520
Speaker 1: pretty early Hawaii time and over under of sixty eight

1899
01:57:31,600 --> 01:57:35,680
Speaker 1: and a half. That's a really tough one early season,

1900
01:57:36,120 --> 01:57:40,360
Speaker 1: not a lot of competition. I think we're probably looking

1901
01:57:40,400 --> 01:57:46,240
Speaker 1: at ugly football. UM. I'm thinking that this is going

1902
01:57:46,280 --> 01:57:52,400
Speaker 1: to be like a thirty one to thirty one to

1903
01:57:54,600 --> 01:57:56,800
Speaker 1: twenty game or something like that, thirty four to twenty

1904
01:57:57,760 --> 01:58:00,800
Speaker 1: that would put it at an under, So I will

1905
01:58:00,840 --> 01:58:03,680
Speaker 1: take the I'll take the under pretty aggressively. I would

1906
01:58:03,720 --> 01:58:09,880
Speaker 1: take the under if it was five points lower. Really yeah,

1907
01:58:10,480 --> 01:58:13,280
Speaker 1: Oh dude, I got I got this over all day, bro.

1908
01:58:13,920 --> 01:58:18,240
Speaker 1: This is a layup. This is a layup, um because

1909
01:58:18,960 --> 01:58:24,800
Speaker 1: U s A's gonna score forty five forty five minus

1910
01:58:24,880 --> 01:58:31,680
Speaker 1: seventeen is how much seventeen is? Uh? Well, you have

1911
01:58:31,800 --> 01:58:36,280
Speaker 1: them winning by more than seventeen, but yes, yeah, so

1912
01:58:36,480 --> 01:58:38,960
Speaker 1: that's twenty eight. So then Hawaii will score like twenty

1913
01:58:39,040 --> 01:58:48,760
Speaker 1: four points okay, forty Okay, So you have it going

1914
01:58:48,800 --> 01:58:52,200
Speaker 1: over by about a touchdown. Do you think Chip Kelly

1915
01:58:52,240 --> 01:58:55,560
Speaker 1: gives us first out of conference when? Yeah, they do

1916
01:58:55,640 --> 01:58:58,000
Speaker 1: it convincingly, and you think people are super impressed with

1917
01:58:58,080 --> 01:59:02,240
Speaker 1: an offense that went over forty yeah? And how how

1918
01:59:02,360 --> 01:59:04,880
Speaker 1: how do we have Dorian Thompson Robinson doing in this game?

1919
01:59:05,560 --> 01:59:11,480
Speaker 1: I think he stops making these bone headed moves. Okay.

1920
01:59:11,560 --> 01:59:15,520
Speaker 1: So you're saying Hawaii's probably not forcing more than one turnover?

1921
01:59:16,600 --> 01:59:20,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, yeah, no, no, no if And part

1922
01:59:20,120 --> 01:59:21,920
Speaker 1: of the reason why I have to say that is

1923
01:59:22,160 --> 01:59:25,600
Speaker 1: because if you don't, if they don't, that's gonna be

1924
01:59:25,640 --> 01:59:31,680
Speaker 1: a bad sign for the season. Man, How do we

1925
01:59:31,720 --> 01:59:35,560
Speaker 1: get so far apart on this um when we both

1926
01:59:35,560 --> 01:59:37,320
Speaker 1: have U c l A winning though, And I think

1927
01:59:37,360 --> 01:59:39,880
Speaker 1: that that's that's the important thing here. I think U

1928
01:59:39,920 --> 01:59:41,640
Speaker 1: c l A is going to have a good year.

1929
01:59:42,280 --> 01:59:44,200
Speaker 1: I think that it is going to make a lot

1930
01:59:44,240 --> 01:59:47,640
Speaker 1: of people excited for where they are headed next year

1931
01:59:48,200 --> 01:59:52,680
Speaker 1: when they potentially have Ethan Garber's under center and some

1932
01:59:52,920 --> 01:59:55,040
Speaker 1: of the recruiting that Chip Kelly has done as far

1933
01:59:55,120 --> 02:00:00,760
Speaker 1: as UM physically gifted and and and developable players UM

1934
02:00:01,120 --> 02:00:03,840
Speaker 1: come into play. UM next year is gonna be interesting year.

1935
02:00:03,840 --> 02:00:06,839
Speaker 1: It's gonna be kind of anybody's game in the South Division.

1936
02:00:06,920 --> 02:00:08,400
Speaker 1: I really feel like I don't know if it's this

1937
02:00:08,520 --> 02:00:10,480
Speaker 1: year for U c l A. But we'll see. If

1938
02:00:10,520 --> 02:00:14,360
Speaker 1: they come out and they dominate Hawaii, I'll be very impressed. Okay,

1939
02:00:14,960 --> 02:00:18,400
Speaker 1: very impressed. All right. The final thing up is m

1940
02:00:18,840 --> 02:00:22,960
Speaker 1: herm at words. You said he had some interesting comments

1941
02:00:23,440 --> 02:00:26,320
Speaker 1: about the Stanford head coach, David You and I will

1942
02:00:26,320 --> 02:00:30,160
Speaker 1: find them interesting, but for the most part they're pretty boring. Um.

1943
02:00:30,480 --> 02:00:35,840
Speaker 1: He was on Point seven FM Arizona Sports radio in Arizona,

1944
02:00:36,560 --> 02:00:41,240
Speaker 1: and they had asked him about the reports and everything,

1945
02:00:41,880 --> 02:00:45,320
Speaker 1: and specifically they asked him about David Shaw, not about

1946
02:00:45,320 --> 02:00:47,240
Speaker 1: the comments he said on our podcast, but about the

1947
02:00:47,280 --> 02:00:50,600
Speaker 1: comments that came out in the Pete Damiel story. He said,

1948
02:00:50,800 --> 02:00:54,320
Speaker 1: I really didn't hear anything. I heard somebody said Coach

1949
02:00:54,440 --> 02:00:57,720
Speaker 1: Shaw said something. Didn't say anything to me at the

1950
02:00:57,760 --> 02:01:01,080
Speaker 1: coaches meetings. Come on, guys, I'm sick. He seven years old. Man.

1951
02:01:01,360 --> 02:01:03,560
Speaker 1: You think I worry about stuff like that. That ain't

1952
02:01:03,600 --> 02:01:06,640
Speaker 1: Hawaiian man. I'm focused in on our football team. I

1953
02:01:06,720 --> 02:01:09,839
Speaker 1: don't worry about the noise outside. I don't pay attention

1954
02:01:09,960 --> 02:01:16,120
Speaker 1: to that stuff. Well you should, you should, because that

1955
02:01:16,280 --> 02:01:18,960
Speaker 1: would let you And he knows what he said. Like,

1956
02:01:19,160 --> 02:01:23,040
Speaker 1: let's not let's not act like he doesn't know, because

1957
02:01:23,120 --> 02:01:26,120
Speaker 1: he guaranteed knows what he said. He may not be

1958
02:01:26,200 --> 02:01:28,720
Speaker 1: able to quote him exactly, and that was what he

1959
02:01:28,840 --> 02:01:31,680
Speaker 1: was saying, but he knows that David Shaw said something

1960
02:01:31,760 --> 02:01:35,120
Speaker 1: critical about the stuff that they did on in recruiting

1961
02:01:35,920 --> 02:01:40,120
Speaker 1: and VIVID protocols. Didn't didn't say anything to me at

1962
02:01:40,160 --> 02:01:42,080
Speaker 1: the coaches meetings. What do you have? I take that

1963
02:01:42,200 --> 02:01:44,600
Speaker 1: as like he could have said it to my face.

1964
02:01:44,680 --> 02:01:46,640
Speaker 1: He didn't. What do you what do you think of that?

1965
02:01:47,200 --> 02:01:50,720
Speaker 1: I think that's what are you supposed to say? Like,

1966
02:01:51,200 --> 02:01:54,120
Speaker 1: why did you do that? You cheater? Why did you

1967
02:01:54,320 --> 02:01:59,040
Speaker 1: do that? I mean, no, bro, Yeah, I mean David

1968
02:01:59,080 --> 02:02:00,440
Speaker 1: Shaw said he was a fan. He I mean he

1969
02:02:00,520 --> 02:02:06,040
Speaker 1: reiterated it with us on this show, and I think that, Yeah,

1970
02:02:06,120 --> 02:02:10,280
Speaker 1: it's not David Shaw's place necessarily to go stern stuff up.

1971
02:02:10,320 --> 02:02:14,000
Speaker 1: There's another agenda there, But I think that at least

1972
02:02:14,040 --> 02:02:23,200
Speaker 1: acknowledging that would have been interesting to do in in

1973
02:02:23,360 --> 02:02:26,160
Speaker 1: that context. I think it's an interesting point from her.

1974
02:02:26,320 --> 02:02:28,840
Speaker 1: That's all that you had the opportunity to talk to

1975
02:02:28,880 --> 02:02:33,200
Speaker 1: me about it. He didn't, yep. But I think by

1976
02:02:33,240 --> 02:02:35,040
Speaker 1: the most important part of this quote is the end

1977
02:02:35,120 --> 02:02:37,120
Speaker 1: when he said, I don't pay attention to that stuff.

1978
02:02:37,640 --> 02:02:40,480
Speaker 1: That's what got you in this position in the first place.

1979
02:02:40,800 --> 02:02:47,000
Speaker 1: Big facts do big facts? Um? All right? Then, um, oh,

1980
02:02:48,240 --> 02:02:52,160
Speaker 1: there are some quarterback position battles that we wanted to

1981
02:02:52,480 --> 02:02:55,560
Speaker 1: kind of weigh in with you guys about and tell

1982
02:02:55,600 --> 02:03:00,680
Speaker 1: you about. Um. Charlie Brewer at Utah is named the

1983
02:03:00,760 --> 02:03:05,080
Speaker 1: starting quarterback right. Um, the kid that transferred over from

1984
02:03:05,240 --> 02:03:10,400
Speaker 1: from Baylor. He was not exceptionally explosive at Baylor. But obviously,

1985
02:03:10,880 --> 02:03:15,440
Speaker 1: you know Baylor's offense has changed tremendously since our Briles left.

1986
02:03:16,000 --> 02:03:19,080
Speaker 1: But now he's over at Utah in a system that

1987
02:03:19,640 --> 02:03:24,320
Speaker 1: kind of suits his skill set, right, Yes, if you're

1988
02:03:24,360 --> 02:03:26,760
Speaker 1: talking about a system in which you're rewarded for not

1989
02:03:26,960 --> 02:03:31,640
Speaker 1: making mistakes, Yes, he is not going to get you

1990
02:03:31,680 --> 02:03:33,600
Speaker 1: a ton of yards with his legs. Though he can.

1991
02:03:34,200 --> 02:03:37,440
Speaker 1: He can. Um, He's just not the best at it.

1992
02:03:37,520 --> 02:03:39,120
Speaker 1: I put him towards the bottom of the pack twelve

1993
02:03:39,120 --> 02:03:41,360
Speaker 1: as far as that goes. But you can't leave him alone.

1994
02:03:41,440 --> 02:03:43,400
Speaker 1: You can't like give him running lanes and stuff, because

1995
02:03:43,400 --> 02:03:44,880
Speaker 1: he will take off. He did it quite a bit

1996
02:03:44,880 --> 02:03:47,760
Speaker 1: at Baylor. Didn't get a lot of yards, but he'll go. Um.

1997
02:03:48,440 --> 02:03:52,200
Speaker 1: He played a lot, I mean almost forty starts um

1998
02:03:52,320 --> 02:03:57,720
Speaker 1: over forty appearances. He uh, he laid about one egg

1999
02:03:57,840 --> 02:04:00,200
Speaker 1: a year for four straight years where he had one

2000
02:04:00,280 --> 02:04:03,640
Speaker 1: game that was just awful. It almost always happened on

2001
02:04:03,680 --> 02:04:05,240
Speaker 1: the road. I think it happened at Texas Tech a

2002
02:04:05,320 --> 02:04:08,680
Speaker 1: couple of times. He did play some tough competition. He

2003
02:04:08,920 --> 02:04:12,080
Speaker 1: struggled on the road. He had two different five game

2004
02:04:12,200 --> 02:04:15,280
Speaker 1: losing streaks in conference on the road, which I found

2005
02:04:15,720 --> 02:04:20,840
Speaker 1: very interesting. And then his sophomore year. I guess you

2006
02:04:20,840 --> 02:04:23,240
Speaker 1: would quantify it as his sophomore here because he's played

2007
02:04:23,280 --> 02:04:26,240
Speaker 1: quite a bit of football. He actually, uh played really

2008
02:04:26,280 --> 02:04:28,800
Speaker 1: well on the road. You do have to factor in

2009
02:04:28,960 --> 02:04:33,000
Speaker 1: some of these losses, as the exodus that happened at

2010
02:04:33,040 --> 02:04:34,800
Speaker 1: Baylor where they had to rebuild play a bunch of

2011
02:04:34,880 --> 02:04:37,160
Speaker 1: walk ons. I mean I knew a walk on fullback

2012
02:04:37,240 --> 02:04:39,240
Speaker 1: from from Arizona that I covered that was out there

2013
02:04:39,280 --> 02:04:42,960
Speaker 1: starting as a freshman, so that they were not very

2014
02:04:43,360 --> 02:04:46,760
Speaker 1: great as far as the level of talent that was

2015
02:04:46,960 --> 02:04:50,080
Speaker 1: surrounding him, and he managed to do them a solid

2016
02:04:50,160 --> 02:04:54,320
Speaker 1: by not turning the ball over a whole bunch. So he's, uh,

2017
02:04:54,520 --> 02:04:59,120
Speaker 1: he will do the job. He's not. I've seen some

2018
02:04:59,320 --> 02:05:04,160
Speaker 1: Utah fans really hyped about him and his experience. Uh,

2019
02:05:05,360 --> 02:05:07,760
Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything super sexy about his game.

2020
02:05:07,800 --> 02:05:10,400
Speaker 1: We're talking about a guy who's played who who who

2021
02:05:10,480 --> 02:05:14,560
Speaker 1: has over forty appearances and for a career is low

2022
02:05:14,680 --> 02:05:22,040
Speaker 1: seven yards per attempt. That's pinfully average. Yes. Yeah, um,

2023
02:05:22,920 --> 02:05:27,920
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here and he's gonna Utah is gonna go

2024
02:05:28,120 --> 02:05:31,520
Speaker 1: as far as he can take them. Because they are young.

2025
02:05:31,680 --> 02:05:33,720
Speaker 1: They are breaking in some new players, so we will

2026
02:05:33,760 --> 02:05:36,840
Speaker 1: see what happens there. Who ended up winning the Colorado

2027
02:05:36,960 --> 02:05:41,160
Speaker 1: quarterback battle. I believe they're rolling with the with the

2028
02:05:41,200 --> 02:05:47,760
Speaker 1: freshman um. Let's see why. I'm just checking to make

2029
02:05:47,760 --> 02:05:51,280
Speaker 1: sure that nothing changed in the last couple of a

2030
02:05:51,360 --> 02:05:55,400
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. UM, But I believe they're going with

2031
02:05:55,440 --> 02:06:01,600
Speaker 1: Brendan Lewis. Uh. Carl Durrell told Brian in Howell of

2032
02:06:01,760 --> 02:06:07,080
Speaker 1: The Boulder Daily Camera and buff Zone, I think Brendan

2033
02:06:07,160 --> 02:06:09,760
Speaker 1: Lewis is going to have a big time year, but

2034
02:06:09,880 --> 02:06:12,240
Speaker 1: he's going to do a few freshman things here and there.

2035
02:06:12,280 --> 02:06:13,760
Speaker 1: The bulk of his work is going to be really,

2036
02:06:13,800 --> 02:06:16,960
Speaker 1: really impressive. I agree with that. I think Brendan Lewis

2037
02:06:17,280 --> 02:06:20,720
Speaker 1: is um because that he I think he's he physically,

2038
02:06:20,880 --> 02:06:24,840
Speaker 1: He's got some of the same um size as as

2039
02:06:25,040 --> 02:06:27,320
Speaker 1: UH Stephen Montez who they had for a long time

2040
02:06:27,360 --> 02:06:31,120
Speaker 1: out there, UM Cepho Loofau as well. They've they've been

2041
02:06:31,160 --> 02:06:33,680
Speaker 1: able to put quarterbacks back there that are a little

2042
02:06:33,680 --> 02:06:36,400
Speaker 1: bit kind of bulkier, more physically developed, and I think

2043
02:06:36,440 --> 02:06:38,920
Speaker 1: Brendan Lewis is for for a for a guy who's

2044
02:06:38,920 --> 02:06:40,320
Speaker 1: in his second year at a high or not on

2045
02:06:40,440 --> 02:06:41,960
Speaker 1: his first year at high school. I think hes actually

2046
02:06:41,960 --> 02:06:45,400
Speaker 1: prett physically developed. I think he's a really really good quarterback,

2047
02:06:45,440 --> 02:06:48,400
Speaker 1: and I think he's going to be great now. It's

2048
02:06:48,400 --> 02:06:51,760
Speaker 1: probably not the time, but I'm I'm with Carl dorellercent

2049
02:06:51,840 --> 02:06:53,520
Speaker 1: on that I think you're gonna see some things from

2050
02:06:53,600 --> 02:06:55,640
Speaker 1: him this year that makes you feel really good about

2051
02:06:55,720 --> 02:06:59,520
Speaker 1: Colorado's future. I think Colorado has enough left at receiver

2052
02:07:00,040 --> 02:07:02,680
Speaker 1: at this point. Just feed Brendan Rice. I mean, physically,

2053
02:07:03,120 --> 02:07:05,960
Speaker 1: the guy is super special, So just give him the

2054
02:07:06,000 --> 02:07:08,760
Speaker 1: ball as much as possible. Um. Yeah, So they're gonna

2055
02:07:08,800 --> 02:07:10,840
Speaker 1: roll Brendan Lewis out of out of Texas, and I

2056
02:07:11,000 --> 02:07:14,840
Speaker 1: think that they'll be. There will be times this year

2057
02:07:14,920 --> 02:07:16,960
Speaker 1: where you scratch your head, and there will be a

2058
02:07:17,040 --> 02:07:18,440
Speaker 1: lot of times this year where you say, if he

2059
02:07:18,560 --> 02:07:21,120
Speaker 1: progresses for two more years, I mean we might be

2060
02:07:21,160 --> 02:07:23,800
Speaker 1: having some Jade Daniels type conversations where we're like, is

2061
02:07:23,840 --> 02:07:26,120
Speaker 1: this the year where he ends up leaving early because

2062
02:07:26,120 --> 02:07:29,480
Speaker 1: he has such a great year. Um, I think that's

2063
02:07:29,600 --> 02:07:33,360
Speaker 1: you know, he's not Jaden Daniels level of prestige on

2064
02:07:33,480 --> 02:07:36,240
Speaker 1: his way in. UM, but I do think that he

2065
02:07:36,600 --> 02:07:39,320
Speaker 1: will make people talk the way that they talk about

2066
02:07:39,440 --> 02:07:42,840
Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels, which is, you know, they could really put

2067
02:07:42,920 --> 02:07:46,760
Speaker 1: it all together, surrounding him with talent, yep, yep. I

2068
02:07:46,920 --> 02:07:51,080
Speaker 1: think that that is reasonable. But with Jade Daniels, though,

2069
02:07:51,120 --> 02:07:55,560
Speaker 1: I think that we have to ultimately see how things

2070
02:07:55,680 --> 02:07:59,839
Speaker 1: continue to progress with with with him, I mean obviously

2071
02:08:00,080 --> 02:08:04,360
Speaker 1: like the kid, but you know, it's been We didn't

2072
02:08:04,400 --> 02:08:06,400
Speaker 1: get a chance to see much of him last year,

2073
02:08:06,880 --> 02:08:11,280
Speaker 1: so we don't know how much he has progressed. Jade

2074
02:08:11,360 --> 02:08:13,520
Speaker 1: Nanos is such a tricky quarterback because I don't have

2075
02:08:13,600 --> 02:08:19,600
Speaker 1: a comp for him, do you no, no, no, no no.

2076
02:08:19,880 --> 02:08:23,680
Speaker 1: And that's part of the problem as well, is that

2077
02:08:23,840 --> 02:08:28,840
Speaker 1: you don't know how to to do it. Um all right?

2078
02:08:29,600 --> 02:08:33,120
Speaker 1: Uh oh. One of the other more surprising kind of

2079
02:08:33,280 --> 02:08:42,560
Speaker 1: quarterback battles was at USC, you had uh. At USC,

2080
02:08:42,960 --> 02:08:46,920
Speaker 1: you had obviously Keaton Slovis as a starter, but Jackson Dart,

2081
02:08:47,000 --> 02:08:49,640
Speaker 1: the kid that flew up the recruiting rankings from Utah,

2082
02:08:50,280 --> 02:08:53,880
Speaker 1: went over to USC after Miller Moss was committed and

2083
02:08:54,040 --> 02:08:56,280
Speaker 1: was like, listen, I don't care nothing about that, and

2084
02:08:56,440 --> 02:09:00,560
Speaker 1: he went and took Miller Miller Moss spot as backup

2085
02:09:00,720 --> 02:09:03,800
Speaker 1: now he's the backup, he's the number two guy, and

2086
02:09:04,200 --> 02:09:08,120
Speaker 1: there are rumblings that he actually maybe pushing Keaton Slovis

2087
02:09:08,160 --> 02:09:11,600
Speaker 1: as well. Well. Keaton Slovis needs to be pushed. There's

2088
02:09:11,600 --> 02:09:14,800
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on him. Um, but I don't

2089
02:09:15,440 --> 02:09:18,480
Speaker 1: I definitely don't think that it would be wise. With

2090
02:09:19,040 --> 02:09:21,440
Speaker 1: USC having the opportunity that has to go out and

2091
02:09:21,480 --> 02:09:24,040
Speaker 1: possibly win the conference. I don't think it would be

2092
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Speaker 1: wise for them to just say here, Jackson, here you go,

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Speaker 1: because they didn't even remember. They didn't want to do

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Speaker 1: that with Keaton Slovis either. He was backing up J. T. Daniels,

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Speaker 1: who who is Who's out east now? So I think

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Speaker 1: that I don't think Keaton Slovis needs to be worried.

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Speaker 1: If they can keep him on his feet, he's going

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Speaker 1: to do everything they need him to, do everything they

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Speaker 1: need him to do this year. He's gonna be fine.

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Speaker 1: But there's a lot of Jackson Dart hype, and that's

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Speaker 1: interesting for Miller Moss. They already chased Jake Garcia out

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Speaker 1: of that situation all the way to Miami. I think

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Speaker 1: because he was I think he was the first of

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Speaker 1: all those quarter backs to actually commit to USC um so, yeah,

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Speaker 1: now that that is interesting. Uh. And I have heard

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Speaker 1: other people even make predictions that they don't think Keaton

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Speaker 1: Slovis is gonna finish the year as the starter. But

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Speaker 1: I disagree unless, you know, unless it's an injury thing

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Speaker 1: and there's nothing control as far as that goes. But

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Speaker 1: it's possible we see some Jackson Dart on the field

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Speaker 1: this year and that will cause controversy. Yes, what dude.

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Speaker 1: If he gets on the field and he plays even

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Speaker 1: remotely well, Keaton Slovis will be in the transfer portal,

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Speaker 1: just like j. T. Daniels was. You think so even

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Speaker 1: if it's just like, hey, they're up thirty, so they

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Speaker 1: get him. No, no, no, no, no, no no no.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying if he comes in and plays meaningful minutes

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Speaker 1: and like wins a game, oh it's a burrito for him.

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Speaker 1: You don't think Keaton Slovis would like just hang on

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Speaker 1: enter the draft. You don't think he's put enough on

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Speaker 1: film to to say forget college football all together, kind

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Speaker 1: of like Kyle Allen did. No, No, I do not

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Speaker 1: because he was wasn't impressive at the end of last year.

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Speaker 1: I think that had he played like he did, his

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Speaker 1: freshman year last year. Then yes, I would, I would

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Speaker 1: agree with you. Um, all right, then and then um.

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Speaker 1: At the University of Washington, Dylan Morris is holding on

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Speaker 1: to the UM starting job over five star freshman Sam Hewitt,

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Speaker 1: who people thought he was gonna come in and take

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Speaker 1: the job. But Morris is back there. Um. University of

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Speaker 1: Oregon has not named a starting quarterback yet. Okay, sure, yawn,

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Speaker 1: what do you mean, really, University of Oregon has not

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Speaker 1: named a starter. No, you really think that they would

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Speaker 1: put Anthony Brown on the bench. I don't know, Pal,

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Speaker 1: I do not know. I don't think so come on now,

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Speaker 1: all right, hey, hey, but so necessarily dramatic. If he

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Speaker 1: doesn't start, you know who's starting, right, not Tyler Shuck

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Speaker 1: another Arizona kid. Thy Thompson, buddy, No way, he's not ready.

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Speaker 1: I love Thye Thompson. I love thy Thompson. Apparently the

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Speaker 1: last two weeks have been pretty damn good. He needs

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Speaker 1: a year. He needs a year, and he will be

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Speaker 1: everything that they everything they've hyped him up to be

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Speaker 1: and more. He just you said this about Tyler's shock too,

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Speaker 1: Thoms Shuck, Shuck, whatever his name is, learned his name?

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Speaker 1: Please it's one syllable shug. No, God, damn No. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so what are you talking about? I said that about

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Speaker 1: Tyler Shuck. I I feel like I was pretty frank

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Speaker 1: about Tyler Shuck the entire time. He's a really good quarterback.

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Speaker 1: There shouldn't have been so many design runs and uh

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Speaker 1: and and that's that. And I also don't put a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of stock on what any team did last

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Speaker 1: year because it was an absolute mess. We'll see what

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Speaker 1: he does in Texas Tech and and and it'll always

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Speaker 1: be compared against Anthony Brown. But the idea that Anthony

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Speaker 1: Brown is not gonna be the starter is just absurd. God,

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Speaker 1: here's the deal about THI Thompson. He's physically ready to go,

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Speaker 1: but he did not play against high level high school competition.

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Speaker 1: He's coming from not the highest division in Arizona, not

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Speaker 1: the second highest division in Arizona, the third. He had

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Speaker 1: one other Division one athlete on his team and pretty

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Speaker 1: rarely played against Division one athletes on the defensive side

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Speaker 1: of the ball. He needs a slight adjustment period. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, well we shall see. Um the other one

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Speaker 1: was over at um OH at the University of Arizona.

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Speaker 1: They're doing something that I hate with the power of

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Speaker 1: a thousand cents two two quarterback system, dude, because quarterback

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Speaker 1: math is this one plus one equals zero. If you

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Speaker 1: have two quarterbacks, you have none. So right now they

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Speaker 1: have no quarterback. So you're saying last year we're gonna

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Speaker 1: had no quarterback. Correct, No, they well essentially yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. I don't I like it if I'm

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Speaker 1: playing video games because I like to run different But

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Speaker 1: it's not like it's not a video game. It's never

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Speaker 1: worked for anybody. Everybody, even even you have a has

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Speaker 1: tried to do this before. People get it in their

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Speaker 1: heads that they could run different things, like you should

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Speaker 1: know by now, you should know by now. And there's

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Speaker 1: some really cynical people that are kind of saying that,

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Speaker 1: like they believe that Arizona does know, but they're trying

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Speaker 1: to keep everybody from piling out of the program because

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Speaker 1: they need the depth. Um. But these two are very

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Speaker 1: different quarterbacks. George Gunner Cruz and and Will Plumber very

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Speaker 1: different quarterbacks. Will Plumber is like somewhere but tween Sam

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Speaker 1: Nowyer and add Dylan Morris like in that he is

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Speaker 1: an athlete. Um, but he will absolutely make some throws

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Speaker 1: that are like as long as your receiver catches them,

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Speaker 1: you'll you'll excuse it, you know, like Dylan Moore's likes

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Speaker 1: to like to really thread the needle, like really test

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Speaker 1: the defensive back sometimes and and make an unsafe throw

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Speaker 1: that's will plumber. He is not super disciplined. He's an

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Speaker 1: extreme athlete. He thinks it's fun to lower his shoulder. Um.

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Speaker 1: He played a lot of safety in high school. Gunner

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Speaker 1: Cruz is physically like a Taie Thompson. He's massive, big shoulders,

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Speaker 1: likes to throw the deep ball, loves to trust his receiver.

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Speaker 1: UM And well, actually for a six ft six like guy,

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Speaker 1: will kind of take off running, but he's very physically

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Speaker 1: already kind of developed and mature. UM. And I thought

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Speaker 1: that he was kind of a really good fit at

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Speaker 1: Washington State, but they have like seven quarterbacks on the

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Speaker 1: roster when he was out there, so him transferring back

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Speaker 1: is not a big surprise to me. They're just really different.

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Speaker 1: They're very, very different quarterbacks. And I think that Gunner Cruise,

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02:16:14,880 --> 02:16:18,520
Speaker 1: if given the opportunity, will probably hold the whole thing down.

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Speaker 1: And I think they're even given him the first few snaps.

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Speaker 1: Um but you never know because if chaos breaks out

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Speaker 1: and that offensive line is junk, then will Plumber is

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Speaker 1: the guy that you you want to kind of improvise,

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02:16:31,840 --> 02:16:33,400
Speaker 1: but you really don't want to be in this situation

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Speaker 1: at all. And I've I've seen both these quarterbacks play

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Speaker 1: so much because again Arizona um that I I don't

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Speaker 1: know who the best would even be for that situation.

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Speaker 1: I really don't. I'm very curious to see how this

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Speaker 1: works out. And maybe that's just it. Maybe there is

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Speaker 1: not somebody who has separated themselves because they need to

2215
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Speaker 1: see what the product on the field is going to be.

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Speaker 1: And I do respect that because think about all the

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Speaker 1: times in history that a backup quarterback has come in

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Speaker 1: and looked better than the starter, and you just look

2219
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Speaker 1: at the coaches and be like, what have you been

2220
02:17:05,480 --> 02:17:08,760
Speaker 1: doing this whole time? But the fifth is game is

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Speaker 1: so much different than everything else, and you cannot account

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Speaker 1: for somebody's ability to improvise. Yep, um you guys, speaking

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Speaker 1: of improvised, We are improvising the end of the show

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Speaker 1: right now. No, actually, not not an improvisation. We just ended.

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Speaker 1: Um you guys, Thank you guys for listening to the pack.

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Speaker 1: Twelve Apostles podcast. Leave a five star rating wherever you

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Speaker 1: listen to podcasts, share with a friend, tell a friend

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Speaker 1: about it. Peace out. Catch you guys next week for

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Speaker 1: the real games.