1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:01,840 Speaker 1: Welcome everybody. 2 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 2: Monday edition of Clay and Buck kicks off right now. 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:09,239 Speaker 2: I hope you all had a fantastic weekend, and as 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 2: seems to be the case every day, we come to 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 2: you with so many things happening, so many news stories 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 2: to tackle, and some very good news of course, continue 7 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 2: to come in from the Trump administration, in this case 8 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 2: pretending to the continued moves at the border that have 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 2: changed the whole paradigm. We are in a new era 10 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 2: of border security thanks to the Trump administration. We shall 11 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 2: discuss that Trump was at the Daytona five hundred. We 12 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 2: got some soundbites from him there. He was talking about well, 13 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 2: he was talking about a lot of things, but we'll 14 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: give you some of that. We have more from Doge 15 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: Elon Musk and his team diving in finding things. I 16 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: think that Elon is for the most part going to 17 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 2: be accurate on the first on the first go round, 18 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 2: meaning when he says something, I think the chances are 19 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: probably ninety percent plus, meaning they found something that looks 20 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: bad in the government, in the budgeting and the spending. 21 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 2: I think the chance they're nine out of ten that 22 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: it's going to be accurate, and it's a problem. Some 23 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: of the stuff that they're finding is just wild. I mean, 24 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 2: paying social Security benefits to millions of people that shouldn't 25 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 2: be getting them, including people who are dead. So they 26 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: definitely should not be getting social Security benefits. 27 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure of that. We will break down that 28 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: for you. Also some. 29 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 2: Indications of where things are going on Russia and Ukraine 30 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 2: for the Ukraine Wars. You know, Trump wants to bring 31 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: that to a close. But this was what was really 32 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 2: tearing it up over the weekend, you know, Clay, I 33 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: had a mellow weekend here. I was in charge of Ginger. 34 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: Carrie was with her family, so as long as everything 35 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 2: was fine with the dog, that was my only responsibility. 36 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 2: So I had a little time and I was able 37 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: to watch the Munich Security Conference speech that jd. Vance gave. 38 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: It's about twenty twenty plus minutes. 39 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 3: I'm just saying that entire sentence is one of the nerdiest, 40 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 3: one of the nerdiest intros of all times. I was 41 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 3: super excited to watch the Munich security speech. 42 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: But this is really good. It is really good. It 43 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: was phenomenal. 44 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 2: You should honestly, if you have the time, you don't 45 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: need to really watch it. You can listen. It's twenty 46 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: minutes long. It comes up if you just you know. 47 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 2: We're to do a simple, simple Internet search on it. 48 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 2: It's one of the best speeches I've heard a US 49 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 2: senior official give on foreign policy in many years, many years. 50 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: It is an absolute home run of a speech. But 51 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: it goes to the issue of free speech and free 52 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: speech as the basis for a free society. Can you 53 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: have a free society without free speech? I would say 54 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 2: the answer is no, and Europe is very decidedly against 55 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 2: free speech. We'll dive into that here commentarily, but before 56 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 2: we start making fun of the Germans for not liking 57 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 2: free speech very much, which is certainly the case on 58 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: our own CBS News, not ours, but it's American, so 59 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 2: it's it's kind of our fault, you know. CBS News 60 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 2: Margaret Brennan, who is now She's Clay. She's been giving 61 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 2: us more than the view lately in terms of soundbites 62 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 2: that we have fun with on this show. She is 63 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 2: not doing herself and her brand in her network any favors. 64 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 2: I want you to listen to her with Secretary of 65 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: State Rubio, who he just had on telling She's telling 66 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 2: Secretary of State Rubio. In the context of the JD 67 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 2: Van speech about free speech in Europe, she's saying, but 68 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: free speech led to the Holocaust. 69 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: Play three. 70 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 4: Well, he was standing in a country where free speech 71 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 4: was weaponized to conduct a genocide, and he met with 72 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 4: the head of a political party that has far right 73 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 4: views and some historic ties to extreme groups. The context 74 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 4: of that was changing the tone of it. And you 75 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 4: know that that the censorship disagree with you specifically about 76 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 4: the right. 77 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 5: Now I have to disagree with you. Free speech was 78 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,679 Speaker 5: not used to conduct a genocide. The genocide was conducted 79 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 5: by an authoritarian Nazi regime that happened to also be 80 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 5: genocidal because they hated Jews, and they hated minorities, and 81 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 5: they hated those that they had a list of people 82 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 5: they hated, but primarily the Jews. There was no free 83 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 5: speech in Nazi Germany. There was none. There was also 84 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 5: no opposition in Nazi Germany. They were a sole and 85 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 5: only party that governed that country. So that's not an 86 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 5: accurate reflection of history. 87 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: This is a big deal. But what was your reaction 88 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: to it? First? First, Well, let me starting the positive. 89 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 3: It's such a moronic thing to say that I think 90 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 3: it would have been easy to not respond like Rubio 91 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 3: did and just annihilate the premise of the question. 92 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: Everyone out there knows this experience where. 93 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 3: Someone says something so crazy that you don't know exactly 94 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 3: how to respond immediately, it's. 95 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: Not even wrong, you know, you're like, that's not even wrong. 96 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: I don't know what that is. 97 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so the fact that he not only responded 98 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 3: but hammered it out of the park is a credit 99 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 3: to Marco Rubio. 100 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: And let me just say this because we're going to 101 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: talk about it more. 102 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 3: JD Vance and Marco Rubio are elite intellects representing the 103 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 3: Trump administration on an international stage right now. And I 104 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 3: think it's been a long time since we have had 105 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 3: truly elite intellex and your point on the JD Vance speech, 106 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 3: Marco Rubio, We've had on this program a lot. These 107 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 3: guys are not only smart, they're functionally smart. They're able 108 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 3: to explain why things matter, and sometimes smart people. 109 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: Don't do that. Well. Okay, so that's point one. Let's 110 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: give credit to Marco Rubio. 111 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 3: Point two, Margaret Brennan is and we're gonna play some 112 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 3: sixty minutes clips in a little while CBS News has 113 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 3: lit itself on fire, and Margaret Brennan is supposed to 114 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 3: be the supreme intellect of the CBS News organization. That's 115 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 3: why they give her this show to host, That's why 116 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,799 Speaker 3: they allow her to talk to all these newsmakers. She's 117 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 3: a moron, and I think this is important. You know this, well, Buck, 118 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 3: but we got a hammer. 119 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 2: Do you think she's Do you think she's a moron 120 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 2: or do you think that she's just so indoctrinated that 121 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 2: she's incapable of accessing whatever cognition? I mean, you know 122 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 2: she's she's a I don't think she's dumb. I just 123 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 2: think that she's completely brainwashed. 124 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 3: Well, well, that's interesting to our I mean dumber, brainwashed. 125 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 3: Here's why I think dumb. I mean she speaks in 126 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 3: Arabic like she actually is. She's got some she's got 127 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 3: some skill set, but she has no judgment whatsoever. Okay, 128 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 3: that's a good point. It reminds me. So I'm gonna 129 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 3: go on, dumb, You're gonna go on brainwashed. Here, she's 130 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 3: an ideal, you know, she's an ideologue. She's like a 131 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 3: cult member of the left. That's what I see. 132 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 2: And but what she's addressing there Clay when she says 133 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 2: free speech leads to genocide. Journalists believe this. Now, this 134 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 2: is a widespread thing. That she's not the only one. 135 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: This is why it's so important and so powerful. It's 136 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,679 Speaker 2: not just like, oh, Margaret Brennan is out to lunch 137 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 2: on this stuff. The belief is, if you can say 138 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 2: that we don't want to legal aliens in this country, 139 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 2: it's going to lead to genocide. If you can say 140 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 2: trans people don't exist, it's going to lead to genocide. 141 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 2: That is a mandatory left wing belief. Now, I yes, 142 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 2: and so what I think is important. 143 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 3: This is why studying history matters, And this is why 144 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 3: studying history with an open mind matters. Long before you 145 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 3: should have a developed political philosophy, we should be teaching 146 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 3: kids what history is. And I know that a lot 147 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 3: of times, I'm a history major. We talk about the 148 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 3: fact that both you and I are history nerds. We 149 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 3: have a profoundly historically illiterate country, and buck I think 150 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 3: that is in many ways intentional, because if you don't 151 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 3: understand the history of this country and the history of 152 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 3: the world at large, you have the memory of a goldfish, 153 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 3: and you can be convinced of almost anything. The reason 154 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 3: why I say Margaret Brennan is a moron here is 155 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 3: an intelligent person would not make the argument that Nazi 156 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 3: Germany was able to take the steps that it did 157 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 3: during World War Two, including the Holocaust. Number I've spent 158 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 3: my time at the World War Two Museum just recently 159 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 3: when I was down in New Orleans for the Super Bowl, 160 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 3: and credit to everybody who was Eagles and Chiefs fans 161 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 3: and had their kids with them. I saw a lot 162 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 3: of people taking their kids the World War Two Museum 163 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 3: trying to educate them about what happened. 164 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: In World War Two. 165 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 3: What you're saying is very important that the left now 166 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 3: is arguing that free speech leads to authority tarianism. The 167 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 3: problem with that argument is it's one hundred percent wrong, 168 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 3: and you have to be historically illiterate to make that argument. 169 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 3: The first thing that authoritarians do is burn books, is 170 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 3: put people who are dissenters in prison. This is all 171 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 3: of history if you study it at all. So this 172 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 3: is where I say Margaret Brennan is a moron, because 173 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 3: she has to be historically illiterate to not be aware 174 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 3: of what the lessons of history actually are. 175 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,559 Speaker 2: Well see but this is where the indoctrination component. I 176 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 2: mean the same way that how can any person with 177 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 2: an IQ over fifty think that a man can become 178 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 2: a woman based on just reality and the science. But 179 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 2: yet the entire Democrat party says it, Why how do 180 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 2: we get to this mass illusion? Well, yes, and the 181 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 2: mass delusion in this context, and this is why it's 182 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 2: so important. It's not that Margaret Brennan said a dumb thing, 183 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 2: although that's true. The bigger issue is she said the 184 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 2: dumb thing, because that is what now Democrats in good 185 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 2: standing with the party are forced to believe. It is 186 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 2: like a It is like a an article of faith 187 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 2: on the left now right, So Clay, this is why 188 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 2: we can't have free speech about vaccines because it will 189 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 2: lead to mass death. We can't have free speech about 190 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 2: the trans community and you know what's going on there 191 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 2: and is it mental illness or whatever, because it will 192 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:24,119 Speaker 2: lead to mass suicide. 193 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: We can't essentially freedom. 194 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 2: This is one of the oldest arguments in existence, and 195 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 2: the Left has gone completely and they left the Democrats 196 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 2: the same thing. The Democrats have gone completely insane with 197 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 2: this in recent years, which is freedom of thought, freedom 198 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 2: of speech, leads to the worst things in society. And 199 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 2: to your point, they have it exactly backwards, and this 200 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 2: is why they're wrong on so many things in such 201 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 2: big ways. This is not a small issue. This is 202 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 2: a huge issue there and they're dealing with right now. 203 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 3: And also this is indicative of the culture of rot 204 00:10:55,480 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 3: at CBS News, And this to me is port or 205 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 3: to point out Margaret Brennan doesn't stand on an island 206 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 3: by herself. If you or I most of the time, 207 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 3: Buck get something wrong, it's mostly our faults. 208 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: By which I mean, you know, we blew it. We didn't. 209 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 3: We don't have a huge staff of people feeding us 210 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 3: information all day long saying hey, this is what you 211 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 3: need to get out there the way this show happens. 212 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 3: We have a great staff around us, but it's not 213 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 3: like they do television, where you have tons of production 214 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 3: assistants where they would sit down for a long time 215 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 3: preparing for this interview. And the culture of CBS News 216 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 3: is so broken, Buck that a question like that could 217 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 3: be prepared and no one in that room would raise 218 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 3: their hand and say, wait a minute, guys, are we 219 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 3: really going to argue with the Secretary of State that 220 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 3: the reason why the Holocaust happened is because Germany had 221 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 3: too much free speech during Hitler era. 222 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 2: And the reason this is so important and this all 223 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 2: ties in, like why are we talking about CBS. Margaret Brennan, 224 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 2: Rubio Jade Evans, jd Vance gave an incredible speech. We're 225 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 2: gonna play some clips for you here in a minutes. 226 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 2: You can hear you know, if you wanted to skip, 227 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 2: we'll give you the highlights that'll give you the essence 228 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 2: of it. Europe has abandoned freedom of speech entirely, entirely. 229 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 2: There is no freedom of speech in Europe. 230 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: Now. 231 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 2: Now they'll say yes, there is accept in and they'll 232 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 2: list all these categories and you'll say those are not. 233 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 2: This isn't uh, you know, calling for someone, you know, 234 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 2: This isn't yelling in an attack dog to go bite someone. 235 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 2: This isn't call inciting violence. This is about things like immigration. 236 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 2: This is about policy matters Europe, the EU overall has 237 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 2: abandoned free speech, and the Democrat journalists in this country 238 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 2: want that here. 239 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why that's such a. 240 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 2: Huge They want what Germany has, which is excusman, did 241 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 2: you put some me meme online? 242 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 1: We're going to. 243 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 2: Arrest you Now they actually do that, and I think 244 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 2: this is and they don't see that as the reincarnation 245 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 2: of a kind of benevolent fascism or something. I mean, 246 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 2: that's what's going on right now in Europe, and CBS 247 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 2: News the Democrat. 248 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: Party are on board with it. They want it here 249 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: for us too. 250 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 3: Sixty minutes covered a raid on a man's house for 251 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 3: a meme. 252 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: We're gonna get, We're gonna get, We're gonna play this 253 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: for you. I mean, it's. 254 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 3: Crazy to believe the entire CBS News department needs to 255 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 3: be absolutely wiped clean. Like this is a job that 256 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 3: I would actually like to have, is go in clean 257 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 3: house at CBS News. The resources that they have Buck, 258 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 3: We'll talk about this too, are remarkable, and yet they 259 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 3: now have found themselves arguing in favor of the government 260 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 3: arresting people for saying things mean online. That's where CBS 261 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 3: News has descended to. 262 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: Look. 263 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 3: Uh, you know, we had over the weekend amazing stakes 264 00:13:55,600 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 3: inside of the Travis House. We got I told you, 265 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 3: we're gonna sit back watch Cobra Kai. We did that 266 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 3: on Thursday. 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You will 292 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 3: love it. Good Ranchers American Meat delivered my name Clay 293 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 3: for twenty five bucks off. 294 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: You ain't imagining it. The world has gone insane. We 295 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: claim your sanity with Clay and Fun. 296 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 6: Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you 297 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 6: get your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 298 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 6: We're gonna play you some of these cuts coming up 299 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 6: in a minute from JD Vance. But I do think 300 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 6: you need to understand where we are right now, and 301 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 6: we were talking about it off air. If you had 302 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 6: told me even a few years ago, Hey, on major 303 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 6: broadcasts and network news stations, they're going to be coming 304 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 6: on saying you've got to be careful about free speech 305 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 6: because it can lead to the Holocaust. It's not only 306 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 6: a profound sense of historical illiteracy, Buck, it's actually even 307 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 6: scarier than that, because they're arguing the exact opposite of 308 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 6: what actually happened. And unfortunately we have a lot of 309 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 6: Americans who are not sophisticated enough to understand that they're 310 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 6: being basically. 311 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: Live I'm going to be the I'm going to be 312 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 2: the communist translator here for a second. The left believes 313 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 2: that if Germany had had a more active progressive government, 314 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 2: it could have shut down the mean things the Nazis 315 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 2: were saying. To your point, yes, historically ignorant and crazy, 316 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 2: but that's that. This is they think that when people 317 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 2: can say the mean things, that's without the government steping in. 318 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: That's the problem. 319 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 2: You and I sit here and say no, the problem 320 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 2: is the government stepping in and saying because the Nazi, yeah, 321 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 2: you couldn't just walk around the billboard being like, you know, 322 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 2: Hitler is a bleeping bleep or something, you're gonna get killed, 323 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 2: actually get killed either way. But they missed that part 324 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 2: that they missed the entire lesson of history, which is 325 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 2: kind of significant. But we are right now the United 326 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 2: States the strongest bastion for free speech in Western civilization 327 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 2: any ere englan world. But this is the we're the 328 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 2: only one. Actually, Yeah, and Canada you have to use 329 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,959 Speaker 2: preferred pronouns. But that was how Jordan Peterson I interviewed him. 330 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 2: No one had ever heard of this guy. He's like, Oh, 331 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna come on your radio show, you know. And 332 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 2: I was like, come on my radio show, mister Professor Peterson. 333 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 2: This is like twenty sixteen. And you know that was 334 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 2: because of the mandatory pronouns. We are the only truly 335 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 2: free society when it comes to speech. And even we 336 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 2: have our problems here, I'm aware of that, but we're 337 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 2: the only one that even tries. All right, we'll talk 338 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 2: about Germany here in a second. Hey, guys, you know 339 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 2: what I've got right here? Actually you can see it 340 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 2: if I've got what I'm taking from chalk every day. 341 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 2: I'm on a regimen, and those of you who watch 342 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 2: on the video will see I'm down thirty pounds. Now, 343 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 2: there's a lot that goes into that. 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So we were talking of what's going 358 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 2: on in h Well on CBS News Margaret Brennan, who 359 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 2: is providing us with great content to respond. 360 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: To on the show, which we appreciate, so thank you 361 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 1: for that. 362 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 2: And then we also have the JD Vance speech over 363 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 2: in Europe, which is worth watching or listening to in 364 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 2: its entirety. 365 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 1: But I will start with this. 366 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 2: Here is a I think a very good example of 367 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 2: what we're talking about. This is CUT four across Europe 368 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 2: right now. You can be locked up and we're not 369 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 2: just talking about fines here. They will put you in 370 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 2: prison for saying mean things in person, but also onlines. 371 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: Cut four. Play it. 372 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 7: And unfortunately, when I look at Europe today, it's sometimes 373 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 7: not so clear what happened to some of the Cold 374 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 7: Wars winners. I look to Brussels, where EU commissioned commissars 375 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 7: warren citizens that they intend to shut down social media 376 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 7: during times of civil unrest the moment they spot what 377 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 7: they've judged to be quote, hateful content. Or to this 378 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 7: very country where police have carried out raids against citizens 379 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 7: suspected of posting anti feminist comments online as part of 380 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 7: quote combating misogyny on the Internet a day of action. 381 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 7: I looked to Sweden, or two weeks ago, the government 382 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 7: convicted a Christian activist for participating in Kuran burnings that 383 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 7: resulted in his friends' murder. The judge in his case 384 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 7: chillingly noted Sweden's laws to supposedly protect free expression do 385 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 7: not in fact grant and I'm quoting a free pass 386 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 7: to do or say anything without risking offending the group 387 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 7: that holds that belief. 388 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 2: Clay, this is what you see in Europe a lot 389 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 2: of the time. You know what, these laws are enforced 390 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 2: primarily in order to privilege those who are for open borders, 391 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 2: to privilege those who are coming refugees from the Muslim 392 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 2: world who've come to Europe in huge numbers and the 393 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 2: last several decades. If it offends them, if they are 394 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 2: offended by what you say, if you offend Islam, for example, 395 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 2: in Europe, you can go to prison. You actually have 396 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 2: to deal with this. And it's not just some of 397 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 2: these countries like Germany and others that maybe you think, well, 398 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 2: we don't have that much in common with them. He 399 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 2: specifically talks, You've got to hear this story. This is JD. 400 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 2: Vance in his speech talking to about somebody who was 401 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 2: arrested for silent prayer. Silent prayer in the vicinity of 402 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 2: an abortion clinic Play five. 403 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 7: And perhaps most concerningly, I look to our very dear 404 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 7: friends the United Kingdom, where the backslide away from conscience 405 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 7: rights has placed the basic liberties of religious Britons in particular, 406 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 7: in the crosshairs. 407 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: A little over two years ago. 408 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 7: The British government charged Adam Smith Connor, fifty one year 409 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 7: old physiotherapists and an army of veteran with the heinous 410 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 7: crime of standing fifty meters from an abortion clinic and 411 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 7: silently praying for three minutes, not obstructing anyone, not interacting 412 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 7: with anyone, just silently praying on his own After British 413 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 7: law enforcement spotted him and demanded to know what he 414 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 7: was praying for. Adam replied simply, it was on behalf 415 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,479 Speaker 7: of the unborn son he and his former girlfriend. 416 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: Had aboarded years before. Now, the officers were not moved. 417 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 7: Adam was found guilty of breaking the government's new buffer 418 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 7: zones law, which criminalized as silent prayer and other actions 419 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 7: that could influence a person's decision within two hundred meters 420 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 7: of an abortion facility. He was sentenced to pay thousands 421 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 7: of pounds in legal costs. 422 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: To the prosecution. 423 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 7: Now, I wish I could say that this was a fluke, 424 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 7: a one off, crazy example of a badly written law 425 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 7: being enacted against a single person. But no. This last October, 426 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 7: just a few months ago, the Scottish government began distributing 427 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 7: letters to citizens whose houses lay within so called safe 428 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:04,479 Speaker 7: access stones, warning them that even private prayer within their 429 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 7: own homes may amount to breaking the law. Naturally, the 430 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 7: government urged readers to report any fellow citizens suspected guilty 431 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 7: of thought crime, and Britain and across Europe, free speech 432 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 7: I fear is in retreat. 433 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: Clay. 434 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 2: This is thought crime. They're enforcing it. Truly, that's not 435 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 2: an exaggeration at all. Silent prayer can silent prayer not, 436 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 2: I mean, prayer would be bad enough to get in 437 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 2: trouble for Silent prayer can get you fined or locked 438 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 2: up in the United Kingdom. Why because abortion is sacred 439 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 2: to the left, because abortion is the only religion that matters. 440 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 2: Let's also play this sixty minutes. Some of you might 441 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 2: be out there saying, boy, that sounds like that, that 442 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 2: sounds like an exaggeration. I think this is where the 443 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 2: Margaret Brennan question of Marco Rubio comes in, because remember 444 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 2: CBS News on Sunday started off with Margaret Brennan saying 445 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 2: the Holocaust was caused by free speech, and it ended 446 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 2: with the news department in Germany covering in a positive 447 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:15,719 Speaker 2: way the fact that insulting someone online can be a 448 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 2: crime in Germany. Listen to this and tell me this 449 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 2: is not chilling. This is sixty minutes in Germany covering 450 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 2: and discussing thought crimes and insults online and how they 451 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 2: aren't protected speech. 452 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 8: Listen, is it a crime to insult somebody in public? 453 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 7: Yes? 454 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 8: Yes, and it's a crime to insult them online as well. 455 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 9: Yes, define could be even higher if you insult someone 456 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 9: in the internet. Why because in internet it stays there. 457 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 9: If we are talking at face to face, you insult 458 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 9: me and sold you, okay, finish. But if you in 459 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 9: the internet, if I insiled you or a politician, that. 460 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 8: Sicks around forever. Yeah, the prosecutors explain. German law also 461 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 8: prohibits the spread of malicious gossip, violent threats, and fake quotes. 462 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 8: If somebody posts something that's not true and then somebody 463 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,959 Speaker 8: else reposts it or likes it, are they committing a crime. 464 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 9: In the case of reposting, it as a crime as well, 465 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 9: because the reader contstinguished whether you just invented this or 466 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 9: just reposted it. That's a same for us. 467 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 8: The punishment for breaking hate speech laws can include jail 468 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 8: time for repeat offenders. 469 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 2: They also imagine this, this is Germany. Now, okay, they 470 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 2: actually do this to people. They'll send the cops to 471 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 2: your house. Bang bang bang, excuse me, have you been 472 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 2: retweeting the memes? 473 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: You're going to prison for the meme retweet? They actually 474 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 1: do this, this is the law. These people are out 475 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: of their minds. 476 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 3: And if you have a historical background, what is the 477 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 3: analogy that is easy to draw here to me. If 478 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 3: you want to make get an analogy to German history, 479 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 3: it is the SS showing up at the door and 480 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 3: banging on the door and dragging people out for doing 481 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 3: things that the government disagrees with. What they are trying 482 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 3: to argue at CBS News is this is a good thing. 483 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 3: That segment that we just aired was CBS News shining 484 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 3: a spotlight in a positive way. Sometimes sixty minutes they 485 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 3: shine a negative spotlight on someone. Right, you guys have 486 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 3: all seen those stories they are choosing to make German 487 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 3: thought policing appear to be something that should be a 488 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 3: positive thing to Americans and buck they talk about in 489 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 3: that same I couldn't believe that entire segment. They talk 490 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 3: about the fact that they seize people's phones and don't 491 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 3: allow them to have access to their phones, and they're 492 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 3: kind of laughing about it because they share memes that 493 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 3: the government decides they don't like. And this is what 494 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 3: Biden tried to do with everything they were doing with Facebook. 495 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 3: It's directly Connect's why what we just lived through during COVID. 496 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 2: Just forget about that also for a second, like the 497 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 2: history and the not you know that, Yeah, there's a 498 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 2: lot of historical ignoramus is running around. 499 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: This is insane. 500 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 2: How can the law to determine today, just today now, 501 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 2: how can the law reasonably determine if something reaches the 502 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 2: level of offense that you might have, you might be 503 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 2: imprisoned for it. I mean, this is completely privileging one 504 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 2: set of or you know, a certain set of beliefs, 505 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 2: certain sets of people, individuals. 506 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 1: It's it's used to. 507 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 2: Shut down people who are we've already seen this. If 508 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 2: you're critical of Islam, if you're critical of mass migration, 509 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 2: if you're critical of transgenders, if you're critical of climate change. 510 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 2: It's all left wing global of stuff, the same stuff 511 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 2: that they are trying to do here to us. And 512 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 2: I think that's a critical point. And we got a 513 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 2: trial run during COVID of this, you and I did 514 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 2: when I got you know, my a YouTube channel shut. 515 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 1: Down, destroyed, ben. 516 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 2: I was trying to kick people the word out about 517 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 2: how masks don't work and lockdowns are insane. 518 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: Shut down. I had hit pieces. You would hit pieces too, 519 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: hit pieces run. 520 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 2: On me by fact checkers. Yes, And the government was 521 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 2: one step away from knock knock knock. How you open 522 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 2: showings of climate change memes. This is what's going on 523 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 2: in the Western world today. 524 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 3: It's also why traditional liberal and conservative descriptions often don't 525 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 3: work in the modern era because, and this is important, historically, 526 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 3: it is profoundly illiberal to not allow people to express 527 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 3: their actual opinions. This is not some the entire basis. 528 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 3: The reason why we have the First Amendment is because 529 00:28:55,560 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 3: our founders, God bless them, were intelligent enough to understand 530 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 3: that the most profound freedom we must have is freedom 531 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 3: from the state regulating what the individual can say. And 532 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 3: the whole idea of the First Amendment is the marketplace 533 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 3: of ideas, which is to the extent that I have 534 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 3: any overarching political belief that I will defend for the 535 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 3: rest of my life. 536 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: This is it. 537 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 3: We get better results when you and me and every 538 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 3: one of you out there listening feels comfortably arguing in 539 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 3: the public square for exactly what you think, and that 540 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 3: over time the best arguments will win. That is the 541 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 3: entire basis of our foundational republican form of government. What 542 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 3: is happening around the world in many places that theoretically 543 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 3: embrace Western civilization is and I'm holding it up for 544 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 3: people right there to be able to see. We suddenly 545 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 3: have phones in our pocket, and we have the ability 546 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 3: to disseminate information on a level that has never existed before. 547 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 3: And we are grappling with how to handle that incredible 548 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 3: power that all of us hold to speak out and 549 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 3: be seen in a way that has never existed in 550 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 3: the history of humanity. And what you are seeing is 551 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 3: many people out there do not believe that we should 552 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 3: all have the ability to share our opinions. And I 553 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 3: give credit to JD. Vance and to Marco Rubio for 554 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 3: going to Europe and holding All he did was hold 555 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 3: up a mirror to reflect what they are doing, and 556 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 3: it made them so profoundly uncomfortable that the reverberations of 557 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 3: those speeches have now crossed back to the Atlantic, where 558 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 3: across the Atlantic Ocean, where now the Margaret Brennan's of 559 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 3: the world are outraged by what we had the audio 560 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 3: audacity to say, which is everybody should be able to 561 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 3: argue to the fullest extent of their voice for whatever 562 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 3: they believe in. That's the true principle of liberty itself. 563 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 3: I can't believe that this has become political, because it 564 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 3: is a foundational principle of the American Democratic Republic. But 565 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 3: this is where we are, and this is the battle 566 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 3: that we must win in order for I believe society 567 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 3: to fully flourish and for freedom to ring around the world. 568 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 3: Family reunions often have a highlight reel memories that you 569 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 3: preserved on old media somewhere in the house. Now's the 570 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 3: time of year. We're through Christmas, we're through New Years, 571 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 3: we're through Thanksgiving, where everybody kind of gets a breath 572 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 3: and you can go back and you can start looking 573 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 3: at all those old memories. I know we're doing this 574 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 3: in the Travis household right now because we're in the 575 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 3: process of starting to pack up. We're moving into a 576 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 3: new house now. I don't know when that new house 577 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 3: is going to be finished, but we are going through 578 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 3: a lot of our old family memories right now, starting 579 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 3: to collate it so that it's prepared to move to 580 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 3: a new house. How many of you out there have 581 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 3: been doing that? How many of you have got maybe 582 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 3: an elderly relative who's been storing all these old memories 583 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 3: and you're going through and you're thinking, boy, I'd really 584 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 3: like to share this with the grandkids. I'd really like 585 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 3: to preserve this for the next generation. Now is the 586 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 3: time you got a little bit of a breather before 587 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 3: summer vacation season gets here. Kids are running around, they're 588 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 3: back in school, but the holidays are over. How about 589 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 3: preserving your family memories for as long as you can 590 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 3: right now at legacy Box. I want you to go 591 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 3: to legacybox dot com slash clay right now. Check out 592 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 3: what they do down in Chattanooga, Tennessee. Old VHS tapes, 593 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 3: old pictures. They can make sure that they last forever, 594 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 3: digitally preserved. You know, all those old photos can disintegrate. 595 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 3: All those old VHS tapes weren't made to last forever. 596 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 3: Now's the time to preserve your family's a legacy, your 597 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 3: family's memories at la legacybox dot com slash Clay. 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Welcome back in, Clay, Travis buck Sexton show. 606 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 6: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us, and I 607 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 6: hope you guys are having a fantastic start here week. 608 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 6: I know it's President's Day and I know many of 609 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 6: you are out there. Maybe some of you have the 610 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 6: day off. You hear screaming in my background. It is 611 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 6: my kids, Buck, who don't have school today and are 612 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 6: down the stairs playing video games right now. You're nice, 613 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 6: of all, I got to play FIFA against your boys 614 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 6: and we'll see who the real view game champion is. 615 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 6: Second of all, is it really a holiday today, Clay? 616 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you know what I'm saying, It's a holiday. 617 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 2: If you want a great deal on a water bed 618 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 2: or something, right, I mean you got the President's Day sale, 619 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 2: but you know, or new lawnmower. 620 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: But like, doesn't everybody work on President's Day? Pretty much? 621 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 3: I have always worked on President's Day. I feel like 622 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 3: if you're not working all the test I've never in 623 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 3: my life been told, oh it's President's Day, don't show 624 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,439 Speaker 3: up to the office. Yeas never, I think, I think, 625 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 3: but bankers never work. You know, It's amazing that in 626 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 3: this twenty four to seven day and age we have 627 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 3: that bank hours are still what they are right like 628 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 3: banks like, hey, we're only open nine to five. It 629 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 3: doesn't matter. I know they're closed today. I think the 630 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 3: stock market is closed. But yeah, in general, I feel 631 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 3: like a lot of holidays are kind of shadow holidays, 632 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 3: meaning that a lot of people don't necessarily celebrate this one. 633 00:34:58,120 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: But we are here with all of you. 634 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 3: I bet some people are listening who are driving around 635 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,280 Speaker 3: that also have kids or grandkids that they are watching 636 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 3: today because they are out of school. And I spent 637 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 3: the weekend working quite a bit, like I said, helping 638 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 3: to pack up some of the stuff that we've got 639 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 3: in the house. We're not moving for months. But in 640 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 3: that process and I was drinking my Crocket coffee. I 641 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,479 Speaker 3: am drinking it right now. At the end of this hour, 642 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,439 Speaker 3: I'm going to go downstairs get a brand new cup 643 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 3: of coffee. Crocketcoffee dot com code book. You'll get an 644 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 3: autograph copy of my book. She's now my assistant. Initially 645 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 3: she started off taking care of the kids, but the 646 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 3: kids have gotten old enough. My assistant, Katie, who is amazing, 647 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 3: is shipping all of these out and making sure that 648 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 3: all of you who are signing up for Crockett Coffee 649 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 3: are getting an autograph copy of the book. So if 650 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 3: you go to Crocket Coffee dot Com, use code book. 651 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 3: We've got light roast, we've got dark roast, we've got 652 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 3: medium roast, we've got an organic roast. We've got decaf. 653 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 3: We also have a lot of great gear that is 654 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 3: really fun. If you like American history as we do, 655 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,399 Speaker 3: I guarantee you that you're gonna like Crocket Coffee dot 656 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,439 Speaker 3: Com we come back. I actually watched. We got two 657 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 3: things that I think we're worth hitting on. One positive, 658 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 3: the border is basically shut down. Thought Tom Holman and 659 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 3: Donald Trump and our friend Stephen Miller. They have effectively 660 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 3: shut down the border. The whole story of the border 661 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 3: being wide open is over. That is a positive. Also, 662 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 3: they had the fiftieth anniversary of Saturday Night Live. Used 663 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 3: to be funny, but they brought out Tom Hanks, is 664 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 3: supposed to be the most lovable American actor, and they 665 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 3: ridiculed Trump supporters and said all of us were racist. 666 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 3: We're gonna play that for you and point out that 667 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,359 Speaker 3: this is one reason that SNL has collapsed. All that 668 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 3: still coming. We'll take some of your calls to eight 669 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 3: hundred and two A two two eight eight two. Appreciate 670 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 3: all of you hanging out with US. President's Day Edition, 671 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 3: Clay and Buck Show, Keep hanging with us.