1 00:00:15,316 --> 00:00:25,476 Speaker 1: Pushkin, Alright, not lost, Chat is back. This is my 2 00:00:26,076 --> 00:00:30,916 Speaker 1: season of conversations with people who travel, and it's a 3 00:00:30,996 --> 00:00:36,316 Speaker 1: fun episode. Later, the actor, writer and director Paul Feige, 4 00:00:36,996 --> 00:00:40,156 Speaker 1: the man behind cult hit TV show Freaks and Geeks, 5 00:00:40,716 --> 00:00:43,436 Speaker 1: the movie Bridesmaids, and a whole lot more. He's going 6 00:00:43,476 --> 00:00:46,196 Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about Northern Ireland, where he 7 00:00:46,276 --> 00:00:49,636 Speaker 1: shot his most recent movie, and he'll also talk about 8 00:00:49,756 --> 00:00:53,836 Speaker 1: his very chill travel style. I have never flown without 9 00:00:53,836 --> 00:00:56,196 Speaker 1: wearing a suit, and time I refused to do it. 10 00:00:56,316 --> 00:00:59,396 Speaker 1: All right, well, I don't go that far, but I 11 00:00:59,436 --> 00:01:04,076 Speaker 1: do respect the effort. But first, I'm talking with Kristen Newman, 12 00:01:04,476 --> 00:01:08,756 Speaker 1: which is no relation to me, Brendan Newnham or Brandy 13 00:01:08,796 --> 00:01:11,876 Speaker 1: Newman for that matter. I'm pretty sure about that. Kristen 14 00:01:12,036 --> 00:01:15,076 Speaker 1: is the author of a travel memoir entitled What I 15 00:01:15,116 --> 00:01:18,756 Speaker 1: Was Doing While You Were Breeding And no, you are 16 00:01:18,836 --> 00:01:22,196 Speaker 1: not alone in thinking that's a great title. If I 17 00:01:22,236 --> 00:01:25,356 Speaker 1: can tell a name droppy story, and I have a podcast, 18 00:01:25,436 --> 00:01:28,476 Speaker 1: so that's not only my right but my responsibility. The 19 00:01:28,476 --> 00:01:30,716 Speaker 1: other day I was speaking with David Sedaris, the great 20 00:01:30,756 --> 00:01:34,076 Speaker 1: comic writer who I'm working on another project with, and 21 00:01:34,476 --> 00:01:37,396 Speaker 1: when I told him the name of Kristen's memoir What 22 00:01:37,516 --> 00:01:40,516 Speaker 1: I Was Doing While You Were Breeding, He immediately began laughing, 23 00:01:40,796 --> 00:01:44,836 Speaker 1: pulled out a notebook and wrote it down, so you know, 24 00:01:45,156 --> 00:01:49,516 Speaker 1: the title is David Sedaris approved. And yes I did 25 00:01:49,516 --> 00:01:51,916 Speaker 1: ask him to write down, not lost. Not sure if 26 00:01:51,956 --> 00:01:55,436 Speaker 1: he heard me, but in any event, Kristin already knew 27 00:01:55,476 --> 00:01:59,236 Speaker 1: she was funny. Her day job is TV writer and producer, 28 00:01:59,276 --> 00:02:01,916 Speaker 1: and she has worked on a ton of shows, That 29 00:02:02,076 --> 00:02:05,596 Speaker 1: seventies show, How I Met Your Mother, The Muppets just 30 00:02:05,716 --> 00:02:08,276 Speaker 1: the name a few, And not only does that speak 31 00:02:08,316 --> 00:02:11,276 Speaker 1: to her comedy bona fides, but as anyone who knows 32 00:02:11,316 --> 00:02:14,556 Speaker 1: anyone who writes in the TV industry, what's really cool 33 00:02:14,636 --> 00:02:17,116 Speaker 1: about that career is that you have a lot of 34 00:02:17,156 --> 00:02:21,236 Speaker 1: time off. So when Kristen was working on that seventy 35 00:02:21,276 --> 00:02:23,956 Speaker 1: show in particular, she got three months off a year 36 00:02:24,196 --> 00:02:27,396 Speaker 1: in between seasons, and so what she did with that 37 00:02:27,436 --> 00:02:30,756 Speaker 1: time was travel a lot. And so while a lot 38 00:02:30,756 --> 00:02:33,876 Speaker 1: of her friends were getting married and having babies, Kristen 39 00:02:34,236 --> 00:02:39,236 Speaker 1: was taking long trips to Patagonia, New Zealand, Brazil, usually alone, 40 00:02:39,676 --> 00:02:43,276 Speaker 1: and though she was not breeding, she was definitely mating. 41 00:02:43,796 --> 00:02:46,516 Speaker 1: She had flings with and now I'm reading from her 42 00:02:46,516 --> 00:02:51,836 Speaker 1: book jacket quote Israeli bartenders, finished poker players, sexy bedwins, 43 00:02:51,876 --> 00:02:56,556 Speaker 1: and Argentinian priests who helped transform her into Kristen Adjacent 44 00:02:56,596 --> 00:03:00,876 Speaker 1: on the Road, a slower, softer, and yes, sluttier version 45 00:03:01,076 --> 00:03:08,276 Speaker 1: of herself at home spicy, And that's the basis of 46 00:03:08,276 --> 00:03:10,716 Speaker 1: her best selling book. It came out a few years ago, 47 00:03:11,036 --> 00:03:13,236 Speaker 1: but it's recently got new life as a TV show, 48 00:03:13,556 --> 00:03:16,076 Speaker 1: which is set to release later this year on free Form. 49 00:03:17,116 --> 00:03:19,836 Speaker 1: So yeah, I talked with Christen about her travels, her 50 00:03:19,876 --> 00:03:23,076 Speaker 1: search for a partner on the road, and turning her 51 00:03:23,236 --> 00:03:30,716 Speaker 1: sexy memoir into television fare. You're such a funny writer, 52 00:03:31,076 --> 00:03:32,836 Speaker 1: as you've said in interviews, and I think you say 53 00:03:32,876 --> 00:03:34,836 Speaker 1: on good Reads. I'm not a travel writer. I'm a 54 00:03:34,836 --> 00:03:38,076 Speaker 1: comedy writer. So would you mind reading the first paragraph 55 00:03:38,236 --> 00:03:40,716 Speaker 1: of the prologue? I will? And can I have a 56 00:03:40,756 --> 00:03:45,156 Speaker 1: prolog to the prologue? Yes? Okay. So here's the thing 57 00:03:45,196 --> 00:03:47,756 Speaker 1: about writing a memoir in the middle of your life 58 00:03:47,996 --> 00:03:51,156 Speaker 1: is that you age and you look back upon the 59 00:03:51,196 --> 00:03:53,396 Speaker 1: person who wrote the book and you think, I wish 60 00:03:53,476 --> 00:03:56,836 Speaker 1: I didn't write that. I don't like that at all. 61 00:03:56,876 --> 00:03:58,716 Speaker 1: I want to do a little edit. This is why 62 00:03:58,756 --> 00:04:01,316 Speaker 1: people write memoirs at the end of their lives, so 63 00:04:01,796 --> 00:04:04,636 Speaker 1: they die and they don't have to deal with the ramification. 64 00:04:04,756 --> 00:04:08,396 Speaker 1: So in the very first sentence of this book, there 65 00:04:08,476 --> 00:04:11,276 Speaker 1: is a sentence that I really found charming when I 66 00:04:11,316 --> 00:04:14,196 Speaker 1: wrote it eight years ago, and now it has a 67 00:04:14,236 --> 00:04:16,276 Speaker 1: word in it that I no longer use, and I 68 00:04:16,316 --> 00:04:18,956 Speaker 1: feel like, well, things have changed. But anyway, so I'm 69 00:04:18,996 --> 00:04:21,436 Speaker 1: going to have that prolog to this prologue. Okay, I 70 00:04:21,476 --> 00:04:24,756 Speaker 1: appreciate that. All right, great. The prologue is called I'll 71 00:04:24,756 --> 00:04:28,196 Speaker 1: have the House Special, and it starts I am not 72 00:04:28,276 --> 00:04:31,676 Speaker 1: a slut in the United States of America. I have 73 00:04:31,836 --> 00:04:33,756 Speaker 1: rarely had a fewer than four night stand in the 74 00:04:33,836 --> 00:04:36,956 Speaker 1: land of the Free. I don't kiss mary guys or 75 00:04:36,996 --> 00:04:39,516 Speaker 1: guys I work with. I don't text people pictures of 76 00:04:39,556 --> 00:04:41,956 Speaker 1: my genitalia. I don't go home with boys I meet 77 00:04:41,996 --> 00:04:43,996 Speaker 1: in bars before they have at least purchased me a 78 00:04:44,076 --> 00:04:47,036 Speaker 1: couple of meals. I've never shown my boobs for beads. 79 00:04:47,396 --> 00:04:49,476 Speaker 1: I do not sleep with more than one person at 80 00:04:49,476 --> 00:04:52,676 Speaker 1: a time, and sometimes no more than one per year 81 00:04:53,276 --> 00:04:57,156 Speaker 1: in America. But I really love to travel. I wanted 82 00:04:57,156 --> 00:04:58,396 Speaker 1: you to read that not to so people get a 83 00:04:58,436 --> 00:05:00,396 Speaker 1: little bit of your sense of humor. But also I 84 00:05:00,436 --> 00:05:03,156 Speaker 1: think that's the thesis statement of this book is this 85 00:05:03,276 --> 00:05:06,676 Speaker 1: Christen felt permission to do a whole set of things 86 00:05:06,716 --> 00:05:09,756 Speaker 1: outside of America abroad and create a the character called 87 00:05:09,796 --> 00:05:13,156 Speaker 1: Kristin adjacent there. Why was it easy to do all 88 00:05:13,196 --> 00:05:17,156 Speaker 1: these other things abroad? What about traveling? Well? I have 89 00:05:17,276 --> 00:05:19,276 Speaker 1: been thinking about this a lot, especially because I've been 90 00:05:19,316 --> 00:05:21,796 Speaker 1: making the TV show about this, and so I sit 91 00:05:21,876 --> 00:05:24,796 Speaker 1: in a room with eight writers and have therapy all 92 00:05:24,876 --> 00:05:27,356 Speaker 1: day every day because I have to figure out why 93 00:05:27,396 --> 00:05:29,876 Speaker 1: this character judges what she does and answer all of 94 00:05:29,876 --> 00:05:32,916 Speaker 1: their questions. And I think that a main reason is 95 00:05:32,956 --> 00:05:36,716 Speaker 1: just not having the mirror of other people around you, 96 00:05:37,516 --> 00:05:41,036 Speaker 1: to have to look at yourself trying on something new, 97 00:05:41,116 --> 00:05:44,156 Speaker 1: and just to go somewhere where nobody knows you and 98 00:05:44,196 --> 00:05:47,116 Speaker 1: so nobody knows that you're trying something new, and so 99 00:05:47,156 --> 00:05:51,476 Speaker 1: there isn't any need for feeling self conscious. It's sort 100 00:05:51,476 --> 00:05:53,796 Speaker 1: of like how it's easier to have weird sex with 101 00:05:53,836 --> 00:05:56,716 Speaker 1: a stranger than it is to invent something new and 102 00:05:56,756 --> 00:05:59,076 Speaker 1: weird with somebody you've been having the same sex with 103 00:05:59,156 --> 00:06:01,836 Speaker 1: for ten years. It feels awkward in the ten year 104 00:06:01,876 --> 00:06:04,956 Speaker 1: space versus it's a stranger and they're like, this is 105 00:06:04,956 --> 00:06:08,956 Speaker 1: her jam. So in a sense, there's like less shame. 106 00:06:09,276 --> 00:06:11,836 Speaker 1: You found less shame being other places, And maybe it 107 00:06:11,836 --> 00:06:14,436 Speaker 1: had less to do with the actual other places than 108 00:06:14,436 --> 00:06:17,996 Speaker 1: it did with just being not America. Yeah, and not 109 00:06:18,076 --> 00:06:20,836 Speaker 1: just sexually. But you know, I to talk about how 110 00:06:21,036 --> 00:06:24,276 Speaker 1: I feel like you have about twenty thoughts and that's it, 111 00:06:24,356 --> 00:06:27,196 Speaker 1: and we just cycle through them over and over again 112 00:06:27,236 --> 00:06:31,036 Speaker 1: all day long. And when you go somewhere new, especially 113 00:06:31,036 --> 00:06:34,276 Speaker 1: by yourself, there are so many things that take your attention, 114 00:06:34,716 --> 00:06:37,676 Speaker 1: like is this alley safe? Should I say yes to 115 00:06:37,796 --> 00:06:40,716 Speaker 1: this invitation? How do I pay for vegetables in this 116 00:06:40,756 --> 00:06:43,196 Speaker 1: grocery store where they're yelled at me and I clearly 117 00:06:43,196 --> 00:06:44,876 Speaker 1: did something wrong and I don't know what it is. 118 00:06:45,316 --> 00:06:48,476 Speaker 1: It replaces the thoughts, and just that alone is such 119 00:06:48,516 --> 00:06:51,196 Speaker 1: a vacation for me. That's interesting. It's like being off 120 00:06:51,196 --> 00:06:53,316 Speaker 1: balance a little bit. It's a sort of a challenge 121 00:06:53,356 --> 00:06:56,676 Speaker 1: and it throws you out of yourself, which is exhilarating 122 00:06:56,676 --> 00:06:59,516 Speaker 1: in some way and expansive in others. Yeah. Yeah, I 123 00:06:59,516 --> 00:07:02,676 Speaker 1: mean it's why you do balance poses in yoga, right, 124 00:07:02,876 --> 00:07:05,476 Speaker 1: is it just requires your attention and so you have 125 00:07:05,556 --> 00:07:07,916 Speaker 1: to stop thinking about all the other bullshit. Yeah, I 126 00:07:07,996 --> 00:07:10,116 Speaker 1: just go to Senior Citizen Yoga so they don't make 127 00:07:10,196 --> 00:07:13,796 Speaker 1: us do balance poses a lot of hip work. I 128 00:07:13,836 --> 00:07:15,596 Speaker 1: want you to I want you to feel good. However 129 00:07:15,636 --> 00:07:18,676 Speaker 1: you feel good, I'm not judging you. So something you 130 00:07:18,996 --> 00:07:21,236 Speaker 1: say early in the book too, which relates to what 131 00:07:21,236 --> 00:07:24,076 Speaker 1: you're discussing, is quote, love is a way easier word 132 00:07:24,076 --> 00:07:26,676 Speaker 1: to use outside the country. Can you talk a little 133 00:07:26,676 --> 00:07:30,516 Speaker 1: bit about your intention behind that sentence? Yeah, I mean 134 00:07:30,756 --> 00:07:33,876 Speaker 1: I love to fall in love. I love to feel love. 135 00:07:34,036 --> 00:07:36,396 Speaker 1: I love to imagine myself as a star in my 136 00:07:36,436 --> 00:07:39,836 Speaker 1: own movie. I love to imagine montages that I'm in 137 00:07:39,876 --> 00:07:43,036 Speaker 1: the middle of, complete with the song that would be playing. 138 00:07:43,796 --> 00:07:46,916 Speaker 1: I am an imaginer, right, but I am also somebody 139 00:07:47,036 --> 00:07:50,836 Speaker 1: who I've realized over the years equates the feeling of 140 00:07:50,916 --> 00:07:55,916 Speaker 1: yearning with the feeling of love, and inherent in that 141 00:07:56,396 --> 00:07:59,396 Speaker 1: is if you do not yearn for someone because they 142 00:07:59,436 --> 00:08:03,996 Speaker 1: say love you back, then that feeling goes away and 143 00:08:04,116 --> 00:08:07,276 Speaker 1: you wonder, am I in love? But and I love you? 144 00:08:07,516 --> 00:08:10,836 Speaker 1: Especially in another language. When everybody knows there's a plane 145 00:08:10,836 --> 00:08:14,036 Speaker 1: ticket that somebody is going to use, you can just 146 00:08:14,116 --> 00:08:18,396 Speaker 1: get the movie moment and the swelling music and all 147 00:08:18,476 --> 00:08:21,236 Speaker 1: of the wonder of it all and just say it 148 00:08:21,236 --> 00:08:23,796 Speaker 1: with all of your heart. You know, it wasn't about 149 00:08:23,876 --> 00:08:26,916 Speaker 1: having one night stands that made me want to have 150 00:08:27,076 --> 00:08:30,876 Speaker 1: travel romances. It was wanting to pretend I had a 151 00:08:30,916 --> 00:08:34,236 Speaker 1: boyfriend for four days, you know, wanting to get brought 152 00:08:34,356 --> 00:08:38,396 Speaker 1: into his friends, his family, where they have breakfast, where 153 00:08:38,796 --> 00:08:41,676 Speaker 1: they go to the beach, all the little inside of 154 00:08:41,796 --> 00:08:45,156 Speaker 1: being in somebody else's world and just getting to have 155 00:08:45,396 --> 00:08:48,756 Speaker 1: a four day vacation from being single without the you know, 156 00:08:48,996 --> 00:08:52,116 Speaker 1: the michigans that comes with it. Yeah, it's freeing in 157 00:08:52,156 --> 00:08:55,716 Speaker 1: a way, but it also means you're living in a 158 00:08:55,756 --> 00:09:00,956 Speaker 1: fantasy not reality. Have you thought about, you know, whether 159 00:09:00,996 --> 00:09:04,396 Speaker 1: there was a downside to these travel flings. I definitely 160 00:09:04,556 --> 00:09:07,836 Speaker 1: had to kind of come to terms with that thing, 161 00:09:08,196 --> 00:09:11,396 Speaker 1: which is that I associate the feeling of love with 162 00:09:11,436 --> 00:09:14,836 Speaker 1: the feeling of yearning and try to redefine that. The 163 00:09:15,036 --> 00:09:17,476 Speaker 1: woman in Israel that I met, who I found really fascinating, 164 00:09:17,516 --> 00:09:21,956 Speaker 1: who I write about, is this Hasidic woman. Her job 165 00:09:22,316 --> 00:09:26,116 Speaker 1: was working as a sex and marriage therapist in Jerusalem, 166 00:09:26,156 --> 00:09:27,916 Speaker 1: and one of the things that she was talking about 167 00:09:27,956 --> 00:09:31,396 Speaker 1: when I asked her about getting married, is that Hasidic 168 00:09:31,476 --> 00:09:36,036 Speaker 1: Jews think of love as not a feeling but an action. 169 00:09:36,796 --> 00:09:39,716 Speaker 1: It's a verb, something that you do, and as you 170 00:09:39,756 --> 00:09:43,276 Speaker 1: love someone, which is taking care of them and doing 171 00:09:43,356 --> 00:09:46,556 Speaker 1: for them, that is what creates love. And that if 172 00:09:46,556 --> 00:09:49,836 Speaker 1: you think of love as a feeling, feelings or ephemeral, 173 00:09:49,876 --> 00:09:51,756 Speaker 1: they come and go, and so what happens when that 174 00:09:51,796 --> 00:09:55,596 Speaker 1: feeling goes? And I've found that in my own life 175 00:09:55,596 --> 00:09:58,716 Speaker 1: where I find myself in some relationship where it's become 176 00:09:58,756 --> 00:10:01,436 Speaker 1: clear that we're on a competition to do less than 177 00:10:01,476 --> 00:10:04,916 Speaker 1: the other, like something is off and somebody feels like 178 00:10:04,956 --> 00:10:07,876 Speaker 1: somebody is not giving enough, and so they start giving less, 179 00:10:07,876 --> 00:10:09,996 Speaker 1: and then that other persons like, wow, I'm not getting 180 00:10:09,996 --> 00:10:11,756 Speaker 1: as much as I'm giving. I'm gonna give less, and 181 00:10:11,796 --> 00:10:14,596 Speaker 1: then you just you take this little ladder down until 182 00:10:14,596 --> 00:10:17,956 Speaker 1: nobody is giving anything. And I remember one time in 183 00:10:17,956 --> 00:10:22,236 Speaker 1: one of those relationships, going, what if I just give 184 00:10:22,356 --> 00:10:25,596 Speaker 1: what I want to get? And then I did, and 185 00:10:25,636 --> 00:10:28,156 Speaker 1: it was like seconds before everything was transformed and I 186 00:10:28,156 --> 00:10:29,956 Speaker 1: got back what I wanted needed to give, And that's 187 00:10:29,956 --> 00:10:33,556 Speaker 1: when I understood, like, oh, I see yeah. For the 188 00:10:33,596 --> 00:10:36,516 Speaker 1: first season I show I'm kind of roaming from Montreal 189 00:10:36,596 --> 00:10:38,916 Speaker 1: to Mexico City and I had just ended a job 190 00:10:38,916 --> 00:10:41,676 Speaker 1: in a relationship, and every town I was really going 191 00:10:41,756 --> 00:10:44,156 Speaker 1: just to genuinely check it out, but I also was 192 00:10:44,196 --> 00:10:46,756 Speaker 1: going being like what if I lived here? Like look 193 00:10:46,756 --> 00:10:49,156 Speaker 1: at this apartment, it's gorgeous, or look at this restaurant. 194 00:10:49,276 --> 00:10:52,036 Speaker 1: There was this kind of like chasing this new kind 195 00:10:52,076 --> 00:10:54,956 Speaker 1: of shiny object. I feel. Yeah, And you know, we 196 00:10:54,996 --> 00:10:56,636 Speaker 1: all know about all the studies that say that the 197 00:10:56,716 --> 00:10:59,796 Speaker 1: more options you have, the less happy you are. You know, 198 00:10:59,876 --> 00:11:02,196 Speaker 1: even if it's picking what kind of chips on the 199 00:11:02,236 --> 00:11:04,556 Speaker 1: table in front of you, we definitely are all set 200 00:11:04,636 --> 00:11:07,556 Speaker 1: up from misery. But also I learned this thing that 201 00:11:07,676 --> 00:11:09,836 Speaker 1: is I put in the pilot of the show because 202 00:11:09,836 --> 00:11:11,996 Speaker 1: I find it so fascinating that there is a wanderlust 203 00:11:12,116 --> 00:11:15,436 Speaker 1: gene and twenty percent of us have it. And it's 204 00:11:15,476 --> 00:11:18,436 Speaker 1: just like this tendency to be restless and curious. And 205 00:11:18,796 --> 00:11:22,556 Speaker 1: that was so calming to me and helpful to know 206 00:11:22,796 --> 00:11:25,716 Speaker 1: that there is literally a piece of our DNA that 207 00:11:25,796 --> 00:11:28,916 Speaker 1: it is programmed to do. And my guess, knowing nothing 208 00:11:29,276 --> 00:11:33,836 Speaker 1: at all about anything, is that our ancestors. It makes 209 00:11:33,836 --> 00:11:36,796 Speaker 1: sense right that there would be people in the tribe 210 00:11:36,836 --> 00:11:39,196 Speaker 1: who are programmed to want to go look over that 211 00:11:39,236 --> 00:11:41,836 Speaker 1: next mountain to see if there's better food and water sources, 212 00:11:42,356 --> 00:11:43,876 Speaker 1: but that there would be people in the tribe would 213 00:11:43,876 --> 00:11:45,356 Speaker 1: be like, all right, we're going to stay here with 214 00:11:45,396 --> 00:11:47,396 Speaker 1: the babies and make some more babies in case all 215 00:11:47,436 --> 00:11:50,156 Speaker 1: of y'all get eaten, and so the tribe can continue. 216 00:11:50,396 --> 00:11:52,676 Speaker 1: And it makes sense that we would be wired to 217 00:11:52,796 --> 00:11:55,356 Speaker 1: need to fill both of those functions, And so it 218 00:11:55,396 --> 00:11:58,716 Speaker 1: really helped me like understand my father who didn't want 219 00:11:58,716 --> 00:12:01,676 Speaker 1: to ever get off the couch to go anywhere. But yeah, 220 00:12:01,716 --> 00:12:04,076 Speaker 1: I do think that we have a harder time sitting 221 00:12:04,116 --> 00:12:06,916 Speaker 1: still in being happy than people who aren't wired like this. 222 00:12:07,356 --> 00:12:09,956 Speaker 1: Do you hear that, Mom? It's science, It's it's not 223 00:12:10,036 --> 00:12:13,236 Speaker 1: just me. All right. Well, look, you have a few 224 00:12:13,316 --> 00:12:15,396 Speaker 1: rules for traveling abroad that you write out in the book. 225 00:12:15,596 --> 00:12:18,636 Speaker 1: They're very strict. They're very strict rules. The first one 226 00:12:18,916 --> 00:12:21,036 Speaker 1: I identify the lot. I feel like a lot of 227 00:12:21,036 --> 00:12:23,956 Speaker 1: my friends don't understand this, people who've gotten married and 228 00:12:24,156 --> 00:12:28,356 Speaker 1: started their lives. And the rules basically, don't book expensive trips. 229 00:12:28,796 --> 00:12:32,716 Speaker 1: If you want to meet fun single people, yes, can 230 00:12:32,756 --> 00:12:34,396 Speaker 1: you talk a little bit about this for people who 231 00:12:34,436 --> 00:12:37,716 Speaker 1: find that confusing. Yeah, I mean the more expensive of 232 00:12:37,796 --> 00:12:41,396 Speaker 1: the place, the fewer single people will be there. It's 233 00:12:41,516 --> 00:12:46,196 Speaker 1: people on honeymoons, it's people on anniversaries, it is you know, 234 00:12:46,276 --> 00:12:49,356 Speaker 1: people who have lived long enough to amass some wealth. 235 00:12:49,716 --> 00:12:51,956 Speaker 1: There's a lot of retired people. There's all of that. 236 00:12:52,276 --> 00:12:54,356 Speaker 1: In your twenties, just go stay at a hostel. It's 237 00:12:54,396 --> 00:12:57,196 Speaker 1: all very simple. In your thirties, everybody is going to 238 00:12:57,236 --> 00:12:59,716 Speaker 1: be nineteen at the hostel, except in South America weirdly, 239 00:12:59,756 --> 00:13:01,236 Speaker 1: where there's people of all ages who stay at the 240 00:13:01,316 --> 00:13:04,116 Speaker 1: nice hostels, which is kind of wonderful. But anyway, the 241 00:13:04,116 --> 00:13:06,636 Speaker 1: middle ground is where I always recommend you go. Like 242 00:13:06,836 --> 00:13:08,876 Speaker 1: I went on a boat on the Great Barrier Reef. 243 00:13:08,876 --> 00:13:12,476 Speaker 1: That the like middle priced boat, because that's people have 244 00:13:12,836 --> 00:13:15,636 Speaker 1: existed long enough on Earth that they can afford not 245 00:13:15,676 --> 00:13:19,436 Speaker 1: the cheapest one, so they're probably in their thirties. But 246 00:13:19,596 --> 00:13:22,196 Speaker 1: it's not the fanciest, so it's not the families and couples, 247 00:13:22,276 --> 00:13:24,156 Speaker 1: it's not the old. Now. I'm glad you said that 248 00:13:24,196 --> 00:13:26,796 Speaker 1: because I feel like often recently I ended a relationship, 249 00:13:27,356 --> 00:13:30,596 Speaker 1: went to Portugal for a few weeks, and people texting 250 00:13:30,596 --> 00:13:33,036 Speaker 1: me from the States like, oh, how's it going, you know, 251 00:13:33,156 --> 00:13:35,876 Speaker 1: like oo la lah, like there must be some hot romance. 252 00:13:36,236 --> 00:13:37,956 Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm of a certain nature. I'm 253 00:13:37,956 --> 00:13:40,556 Speaker 1: not staying at youth hostels. I'm not staying out till 254 00:13:40,596 --> 00:13:42,396 Speaker 1: five in the morning, and I stay at a hotel. 255 00:13:42,516 --> 00:13:44,636 Speaker 1: And you can put yourself in a situation where you're 256 00:13:44,636 --> 00:13:48,196 Speaker 1: not going to meet anyone because you want some creature comforts, 257 00:13:48,436 --> 00:13:50,956 Speaker 1: and the creature comforts often mean you're not there when 258 00:13:50,996 --> 00:13:55,596 Speaker 1: moments of serendipity happens. So yeah, it's interesting. Calibration the 259 00:13:55,636 --> 00:13:59,396 Speaker 1: main thing for me because I don't like a tour. However, 260 00:13:59,596 --> 00:14:02,996 Speaker 1: there are certain activities that kind of require a guide. 261 00:14:03,476 --> 00:14:06,636 Speaker 1: So day trips is a big, big, big, big big 262 00:14:06,676 --> 00:14:09,396 Speaker 1: tip for any solo travelers who want to meet people, 263 00:14:09,516 --> 00:14:12,236 Speaker 1: because that's where solo travelers all go together and you 264 00:14:12,516 --> 00:14:14,556 Speaker 1: suddenly are with twenty people on a bus for the 265 00:14:14,676 --> 00:14:17,316 Speaker 1: day going on some sort of excursion. Then that's where 266 00:14:17,316 --> 00:14:19,076 Speaker 1: you talk to people because you're together for eight hours 267 00:14:19,076 --> 00:14:20,396 Speaker 1: and then you go to dinner with them at night. 268 00:14:21,196 --> 00:14:23,876 Speaker 1: And also update, I was in Venice last summer or 269 00:14:23,876 --> 00:14:26,676 Speaker 1: two summers ago, and stop by for coffee of this 270 00:14:26,756 --> 00:14:30,476 Speaker 1: youth youth hostel. I'm using quotes the kids. They have 271 00:14:30,556 --> 00:14:32,876 Speaker 1: it so much better now. Like when I backpacked when 272 00:14:32,916 --> 00:14:36,356 Speaker 1: I was eighteen, it was really just a smelly house 273 00:14:36,396 --> 00:14:39,196 Speaker 1: where you share bunks with Australians. And now this place 274 00:14:39,236 --> 00:14:42,356 Speaker 1: had like Wi Fi, DJs at night, natural wine, you 275 00:14:42,356 --> 00:14:45,556 Speaker 1: could rent private rooms, heated floors. I feel like they've 276 00:14:45,596 --> 00:14:50,076 Speaker 1: really found that market of twenty thirty somethings. So your 277 00:14:50,116 --> 00:14:53,276 Speaker 1: options are no longer like the Four Seasons or you know, 278 00:14:53,316 --> 00:14:57,116 Speaker 1: the Kuala Hut in the bad part of town. There's 279 00:14:57,156 --> 00:15:01,596 Speaker 1: really some slicker places available to people. Yeah, yeah, it's important. 280 00:15:02,156 --> 00:15:04,276 Speaker 1: So you're writing the television version of this now. But 281 00:15:04,556 --> 00:15:07,156 Speaker 1: I'm curious about this. I've been interviewing travel writers like 282 00:15:07,916 --> 00:15:11,476 Speaker 1: Capital T and you've kind of been thrown amongst this 283 00:15:11,596 --> 00:15:14,676 Speaker 1: crew because you wrote this wonderful book that has a 284 00:15:14,716 --> 00:15:17,876 Speaker 1: beautiful cover of someone looking out of an airplane. What 285 00:15:17,996 --> 00:15:20,276 Speaker 1: is it like being on the travel shelf phones in 286 00:15:20,356 --> 00:15:23,356 Speaker 1: certain bookstores as opposed to being, you know, a writer 287 00:15:23,436 --> 00:15:26,596 Speaker 1: of that seventy show and chucking other things. Well, just 288 00:15:26,676 --> 00:15:29,196 Speaker 1: writing the book was a joy because there's no rules 289 00:15:29,196 --> 00:15:31,236 Speaker 1: when you're writing a book, and the way that they're 290 00:15:31,396 --> 00:15:33,956 Speaker 1: there's such strict rules about TV and film writing. How 291 00:15:33,956 --> 00:15:35,756 Speaker 1: many books have to be on a page, how many 292 00:15:35,756 --> 00:15:38,116 Speaker 1: pages are in an episode, where the act breaks have 293 00:15:38,196 --> 00:15:40,276 Speaker 1: to be, what the character has to be, all of 294 00:15:40,316 --> 00:15:43,196 Speaker 1: those things. So the writing it was a joy. But 295 00:15:43,236 --> 00:15:46,396 Speaker 1: my favorite thing is, honestly, it's been translated into a 296 00:15:46,396 --> 00:15:49,396 Speaker 1: few different languages, and getting to see it with these 297 00:15:49,436 --> 00:15:51,836 Speaker 1: different covers. As you get further into Eastern Europe, the 298 00:15:51,836 --> 00:15:56,436 Speaker 1: cover gets progressively kind of more sexualized, Like by the 299 00:15:56,476 --> 00:15:58,636 Speaker 1: time you get to Russia, it's just a woman's bare 300 00:15:58,716 --> 00:16:02,596 Speaker 1: midriff with passport stamps on her body, like she has 301 00:16:02,636 --> 00:16:06,836 Speaker 1: been stamped. So that's fascinating. But my favorite thing is 302 00:16:07,076 --> 00:16:12,116 Speaker 1: I get texted or tweeted pictures of the book. Dogeared 303 00:16:12,516 --> 00:16:15,476 Speaker 1: that somebody found on a shelf in a hostel somewhere 304 00:16:15,516 --> 00:16:18,876 Speaker 1: in the world, or like a lot of people have 305 00:16:19,276 --> 00:16:21,196 Speaker 1: tweeted me messages that they bought their first so little 306 00:16:21,236 --> 00:16:23,996 Speaker 1: plane ticket after reading it, and then here's a picture 307 00:16:24,116 --> 00:16:27,156 Speaker 1: of it, you know, in that location, and so it 308 00:16:27,236 --> 00:16:30,156 Speaker 1: lives in the world, which gives me the most joy 309 00:16:30,316 --> 00:16:33,436 Speaker 1: on Earth. I call it a one in five star book. Listen, 310 00:16:33,516 --> 00:16:36,676 Speaker 1: you're either really into me or you're really not into me. 311 00:16:36,756 --> 00:16:39,076 Speaker 1: I am also a one in five star person I think. 312 00:16:39,836 --> 00:16:42,676 Speaker 1: And so, you know, part of making a TV show 313 00:16:43,036 --> 00:16:48,636 Speaker 1: that's different than a book is there's this likability, likability, relatability, likability. 314 00:16:48,716 --> 00:16:51,796 Speaker 1: This word is the word you hear the most about 315 00:16:51,796 --> 00:16:56,076 Speaker 1: TV characters, which means when you write a show based 316 00:16:56,076 --> 00:16:58,156 Speaker 1: on yourself, you get to get a lot of really 317 00:16:58,356 --> 00:17:02,116 Speaker 1: heartbreaking notes about things that the character is doing that 318 00:17:02,236 --> 00:17:08,316 Speaker 1: you know don't make sense emotionally, aren't likable. Why why 319 00:17:08,436 --> 00:17:10,716 Speaker 1: would she do? Why would we ever root for this 320 00:17:10,756 --> 00:17:13,996 Speaker 1: person who has done this? So it's a very personal 321 00:17:14,076 --> 00:17:17,076 Speaker 1: journey that you get to take in terms of therapy 322 00:17:17,156 --> 00:17:19,756 Speaker 1: that's somehow led to me discovering things that I had 323 00:17:19,796 --> 00:17:23,916 Speaker 1: never discovered. So you're now married with a family, and 324 00:17:24,036 --> 00:17:27,796 Speaker 1: you're about to go travel to Argentina, this country you 325 00:17:27,876 --> 00:17:31,396 Speaker 1: love that means so much to you. Is any part 326 00:17:31,436 --> 00:17:34,316 Speaker 1: of you a little bit bummed that you are now 327 00:17:34,396 --> 00:17:36,756 Speaker 1: going with like a crew and that you don't get 328 00:17:36,796 --> 00:17:41,116 Speaker 1: to be the Christen of your You know, I am 329 00:17:41,156 --> 00:17:43,836 Speaker 1: so excited to get to go and see it in 330 00:17:43,876 --> 00:17:46,436 Speaker 1: this other way and get to see my family there. 331 00:17:46,796 --> 00:17:50,276 Speaker 1: But oh yeah, like do I wish that this TV 332 00:17:50,356 --> 00:17:53,636 Speaker 1: show got made before had a six year old, which 333 00:17:53,676 --> 00:17:56,556 Speaker 1: also means bringing my mother to help take care of 334 00:17:56,596 --> 00:17:59,556 Speaker 1: the six year old. Yes, obviously I was there in 335 00:17:59,636 --> 00:18:02,116 Speaker 1: March to scout for a week for the show, and 336 00:18:02,236 --> 00:18:04,396 Speaker 1: also trying to figure out where we could all live 337 00:18:04,716 --> 00:18:07,316 Speaker 1: and what we could all do while I work fourteen 338 00:18:07,356 --> 00:18:10,236 Speaker 1: hours a day, and I'd bring mine higher family parents 339 00:18:10,276 --> 00:18:13,276 Speaker 1: has been child to Argentina to keep them happy and 340 00:18:13,356 --> 00:18:18,596 Speaker 1: not revolting. And I was like, what is different about Argentina. 341 00:18:18,796 --> 00:18:21,636 Speaker 1: I did not feel the same way as I did 342 00:18:22,076 --> 00:18:25,116 Speaker 1: eleven years ago when I'm like, God, is Argentina different? 343 00:18:25,556 --> 00:18:27,996 Speaker 1: Is it a darker time here? You know what has changed? 344 00:18:28,236 --> 00:18:30,716 Speaker 1: And then there was this last morning before I had 345 00:18:30,716 --> 00:18:32,796 Speaker 1: to get on the plane where there was no work 346 00:18:32,836 --> 00:18:35,556 Speaker 1: to do, and I didn't do anything but just walk 347 00:18:35,636 --> 00:18:39,556 Speaker 1: out the doors of my hotel and just turn which 348 00:18:39,556 --> 00:18:42,556 Speaker 1: direction I felt like turning, and then just walk until 349 00:18:42,636 --> 00:18:45,316 Speaker 1: I was hungry, and then just pee when I needed 350 00:18:45,316 --> 00:18:47,516 Speaker 1: to pee, and not stop at any other point for 351 00:18:47,556 --> 00:18:51,116 Speaker 1: anyone else to pee. And I was like, oh, it 352 00:18:51,196 --> 00:18:56,036 Speaker 1: was immediately back, like I immediately received Argentina the way 353 00:18:56,076 --> 00:18:59,356 Speaker 1: I remembered it again, and I'm like, oh shit, the 354 00:18:59,356 --> 00:19:02,236 Speaker 1: trick of this magical place was that I didn't have 355 00:19:02,236 --> 00:19:05,076 Speaker 1: to worry about anybody but myself, and I didn't have 356 00:19:05,116 --> 00:19:10,076 Speaker 1: to have any plans for anybody but me. And inherently 357 00:19:10,236 --> 00:19:13,196 Speaker 1: in the way I'm returning, I am taking the magic away, 358 00:19:14,156 --> 00:19:16,316 Speaker 1: your footloose and fancy freeze days behind you. But maybe 359 00:19:16,356 --> 00:19:18,876 Speaker 1: there's a whole new type of experience that a way too, 360 00:19:19,276 --> 00:19:22,116 Speaker 1: I'm hoping. Yeah. Well, look, I really look forward to 361 00:19:22,156 --> 00:19:24,716 Speaker 1: the television show. Thank you so much for taking the 362 00:19:24,756 --> 00:19:27,876 Speaker 1: time to talk to me today, and thanks for writing 363 00:19:27,876 --> 00:19:29,956 Speaker 1: this book. And I feel like filling in a blind 364 00:19:29,956 --> 00:19:32,636 Speaker 1: spot in the cannon here it's appreciated. Well, thank you 365 00:19:32,756 --> 00:19:36,396 Speaker 1: for liking it and reading it, and thank you for chatting. 366 00:19:36,396 --> 00:19:44,276 Speaker 1: This was so fun. That was Kristen Newman. Her memoir 367 00:19:44,396 --> 00:19:46,796 Speaker 1: is called What I Was Doing While You Were Breeding, 368 00:19:47,156 --> 00:19:49,236 Speaker 1: and the TV show based on it will be out 369 00:19:49,276 --> 00:19:53,676 Speaker 1: on Hulu and free Form this may. Since we've established 370 00:19:53,676 --> 00:19:56,876 Speaker 1: that people successful in the TV world have time to travel, 371 00:19:57,196 --> 00:20:00,236 Speaker 1: I'm going to invite another one on. Paul Fieg will 372 00:20:00,236 --> 00:20:03,076 Speaker 1: be joining us in a moment to help answer your 373 00:20:03,116 --> 00:20:06,356 Speaker 1: travel questions. He has traveled the world and he has 374 00:20:06,436 --> 00:20:09,596 Speaker 1: some keen observations about it. Well, we go on vacation. 375 00:20:10,156 --> 00:20:12,956 Speaker 1: We're all the background for everybody else's vacation photos and 376 00:20:13,076 --> 00:20:32,196 Speaker 1: vacation in general. Not Lost. We'll be right back, all right, 377 00:20:32,236 --> 00:20:35,316 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Not Lost Chat. It is now time 378 00:20:35,436 --> 00:20:37,476 Speaker 1: for the part of the show where I bring in 379 00:20:37,516 --> 00:20:41,876 Speaker 1: a well traveled guest or frequent flyer to help answer 380 00:20:41,876 --> 00:20:46,316 Speaker 1: some of your travel questions. Today I am talking with actor, filmmaker, 381 00:20:46,436 --> 00:20:50,236 Speaker 1: writer and producer Paul Feig. He's behind a ton of 382 00:20:50,276 --> 00:20:54,796 Speaker 1: popular TV shows and movies like Freaks and Geeks, Ghostbusters, Bridesmaids, 383 00:20:54,796 --> 00:20:57,916 Speaker 1: and Minks. His latest project is a film called The 384 00:20:57,996 --> 00:21:01,196 Speaker 1: School for Good and Evil, which is filmed in Northern Ireland. 385 00:21:01,556 --> 00:21:03,956 Speaker 1: And he's also got a new cocktail book out called 386 00:21:04,276 --> 00:21:07,556 Speaker 1: Cocktail Time. And when I met with him, he was 387 00:21:07,836 --> 00:21:10,916 Speaker 1: certainly dressed for Cocktail Hour. He had on a dapper 388 00:21:10,996 --> 00:21:14,236 Speaker 1: navy cardigan with a dark blue purple tie over a 389 00:21:14,356 --> 00:21:18,356 Speaker 1: light purple button up. Forgive me, but I am. I 390 00:21:18,396 --> 00:21:21,476 Speaker 1: am shamefully underdressed. For no, I'm dressed like somebody's grandpa. 391 00:21:21,476 --> 00:21:23,276 Speaker 1: As I apologize, I no, no, But do you ever 392 00:21:23,316 --> 00:21:25,156 Speaker 1: have a casual day, Paul, Like, do you ever? This 393 00:21:25,196 --> 00:21:28,076 Speaker 1: is a casual day for me? Okay, I know the 394 00:21:28,156 --> 00:21:30,476 Speaker 1: cardigan and all that. I feel a little like mister Rogers. 395 00:21:30,516 --> 00:21:33,196 Speaker 1: But um, if I'm just like at home writing and 396 00:21:33,276 --> 00:21:35,276 Speaker 1: that's it, then I'll put on, you know, something like 397 00:21:35,356 --> 00:21:37,116 Speaker 1: a flannel shirt and jeans, just like a bow tie, 398 00:21:37,636 --> 00:21:40,316 Speaker 1: exactly exactly. It depends. It depends how cold it is too. 399 00:21:40,356 --> 00:21:41,876 Speaker 1: I'm in New York right now and the window has 400 00:21:41,916 --> 00:21:45,636 Speaker 1: this crazy draft, so Grandpa has to bundle up while 401 00:21:45,676 --> 00:21:48,436 Speaker 1: he's here. Well, it looks, it looks charming, and it's 402 00:21:48,476 --> 00:21:51,476 Speaker 1: consistent with Actually, I think one of your projects, one 403 00:21:51,516 --> 00:21:53,716 Speaker 1: of your many, which is your book Cocktail Time, which 404 00:21:53,716 --> 00:21:56,356 Speaker 1: came out, which you know, Grandpa probably is a different 405 00:21:56,356 --> 00:21:58,676 Speaker 1: sort of cocktail Time. But I think part of the 406 00:21:58,716 --> 00:22:01,756 Speaker 1: mission of this book it's about grown ups. Actually, it's 407 00:22:01,756 --> 00:22:05,796 Speaker 1: not necessarily about getting annihilated on gin, although that can 408 00:22:05,796 --> 00:22:07,516 Speaker 1: be part of the probat. Do you want to talk 409 00:22:07,516 --> 00:22:10,636 Speaker 1: a little bit about the ethos behind you're this project? Yeah, 410 00:22:10,916 --> 00:22:12,956 Speaker 1: I mean it kind of started because when we went 411 00:22:12,996 --> 00:22:16,436 Speaker 1: into lockdown, I decided to do an Instagram live show 412 00:22:16,596 --> 00:22:18,476 Speaker 1: every day for one hundred days to raise money for 413 00:22:18,476 --> 00:22:20,676 Speaker 1: first responders and to learn how to make cocktails at 414 00:22:20,676 --> 00:22:23,236 Speaker 1: all that. But the book, you know, the book started 415 00:22:23,356 --> 00:22:24,876 Speaker 1: is people were just like, can you write down all 416 00:22:24,876 --> 00:22:26,916 Speaker 1: the recipes and put them in a book? So I did, 417 00:22:26,996 --> 00:22:30,636 Speaker 1: but then started realizing, like I wanted this to represent 418 00:22:30,676 --> 00:22:34,836 Speaker 1: so much more. And my whole thing about life is 419 00:22:35,076 --> 00:22:38,956 Speaker 1: I think there's too many guys, especially especially my age, 420 00:22:38,996 --> 00:22:41,596 Speaker 1: you know, definitely too many guys, many guys in general. Yes, 421 00:22:41,876 --> 00:22:43,916 Speaker 1: we can all agree on that good point. No, I 422 00:22:43,916 --> 00:22:46,196 Speaker 1: just think there's too many guys who are trying to 423 00:22:46,236 --> 00:22:49,796 Speaker 1: hang onto this idea of being a teenager. And I 424 00:22:49,836 --> 00:22:53,436 Speaker 1: find that really sad, especially when you get into like thirties, forties, fifties, 425 00:22:53,796 --> 00:22:57,356 Speaker 1: because you're not fooling anybody. But the biggest thing is 426 00:22:57,796 --> 00:22:59,876 Speaker 1: why why do you want that? Why do you want 427 00:22:59,916 --> 00:23:03,036 Speaker 1: to hang on too? I mean, unless you like like 428 00:23:03,196 --> 00:23:06,196 Speaker 1: ruled when you were a teenager, I don't know who did, 429 00:23:07,556 --> 00:23:09,556 Speaker 1: why would you not want to jettison those and go like, 430 00:23:09,636 --> 00:23:12,316 Speaker 1: let's be grown ups and have grown up fun. You know. 431 00:23:12,476 --> 00:23:14,276 Speaker 1: That's the biggest thing about the book for me, is like, 432 00:23:14,316 --> 00:23:16,436 Speaker 1: it's fun to be a grown up, and I really 433 00:23:16,436 --> 00:23:19,196 Speaker 1: want to impress that on people. I'm with you. I 434 00:23:19,196 --> 00:23:21,716 Speaker 1: actually I'm thinking about that. Maybe Tony Hawk like he 435 00:23:21,876 --> 00:23:25,796 Speaker 1: can stay sixteen forever because apparently his genetics allow him exactly, 436 00:23:25,876 --> 00:23:27,636 Speaker 1: and he did have a pretty pretty good teen years. 437 00:23:27,636 --> 00:23:30,196 Speaker 1: But for the rest of us exactly, well you only 438 00:23:30,316 --> 00:23:32,876 Speaker 1: just just on that point. I think it was with 439 00:23:32,996 --> 00:23:36,596 Speaker 1: Richard E. Grant we had dinner name drop and thank you, 440 00:23:36,676 --> 00:23:41,076 Speaker 1: but I think I think it was him. He said, Basically, people, 441 00:23:41,276 --> 00:23:46,876 Speaker 1: especially guys, freeze at the age they got famous, you know, 442 00:23:47,116 --> 00:23:49,636 Speaker 1: so like if you got famous you're eighteen, you sort 443 00:23:49,636 --> 00:23:53,156 Speaker 1: of never mentally go past that, you know. So I 444 00:23:53,156 --> 00:23:55,916 Speaker 1: think I'm going to age gracefully because I've never been famous. 445 00:23:56,036 --> 00:23:58,996 Speaker 1: So there. So you travel a lot for work. Your 446 00:23:58,996 --> 00:24:01,476 Speaker 1: most recent film, The School for Good and Evil, came 447 00:24:01,476 --> 00:24:04,916 Speaker 1: out in October. It was shot in Northern Ireland, and 448 00:24:04,956 --> 00:24:07,796 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, like about this kind of grown up like atmosphere. 449 00:24:08,276 --> 00:24:10,876 Speaker 1: You know, it's cocktail, but it's dim light, it's good music, 450 00:24:10,916 --> 00:24:15,196 Speaker 1: it's conversation with other adults with out interruption. How do 451 00:24:15,236 --> 00:24:17,756 Speaker 1: you find that when you're going somewhere Like I know 452 00:24:17,836 --> 00:24:20,276 Speaker 1: you had a job to do a Northern Ireland, but 453 00:24:20,796 --> 00:24:22,796 Speaker 1: you know you had some weekends and some follow time, 454 00:24:22,836 --> 00:24:25,636 Speaker 1: Like do you do any advanced research for for bars? 455 00:24:25,916 --> 00:24:27,476 Speaker 1: Like how do you get how do you get your 456 00:24:27,556 --> 00:24:29,556 Speaker 1: reader usually I do. I do a lot of research 457 00:24:29,596 --> 00:24:31,436 Speaker 1: on where to eat, where to go, where where the 458 00:24:31,476 --> 00:24:33,396 Speaker 1: best bars are, like you said, but this was weird 459 00:24:33,396 --> 00:24:36,676 Speaker 1: because we were going in during lockdown, So so for 460 00:24:37,076 --> 00:24:40,356 Speaker 1: more than anything, it was like, where's the best liquor stores? 461 00:24:40,796 --> 00:24:42,756 Speaker 1: You know, who's got the best selection so I can 462 00:24:42,796 --> 00:24:45,316 Speaker 1: stock up the house, you know. And I got this 463 00:24:45,356 --> 00:24:48,396 Speaker 1: great apartment that had this huge kitchen, and so I 464 00:24:48,436 --> 00:24:50,836 Speaker 1: just decided I'm just gonna cook for people. So you know, 465 00:24:50,876 --> 00:24:52,516 Speaker 1: it's like, hey, you know, come on over and I'm 466 00:24:52,556 --> 00:24:54,596 Speaker 1: gonna just cook a chicken or whatever and let's just 467 00:24:54,596 --> 00:24:56,796 Speaker 1: sit around and have drinks and have fun. But yeah, 468 00:24:56,836 --> 00:25:00,436 Speaker 1: in general, my wife, Laurie, she's what we call the CEO, 469 00:25:00,556 --> 00:25:04,116 Speaker 1: the chief entertainment officer, because she will normally and during 470 00:25:04,156 --> 00:25:07,516 Speaker 1: a normal production period, we'll organize parties on the weekend 471 00:25:08,196 --> 00:25:10,276 Speaker 1: and usually she loved to find a body of water 472 00:25:10,596 --> 00:25:12,956 Speaker 1: and then we always have these kind of like boat parties, 473 00:25:13,196 --> 00:25:16,036 Speaker 1: you know, we go out food and drink and dance. Yeah, 474 00:25:16,036 --> 00:25:18,876 Speaker 1: it's really fun. So, yeah, how does film insurance work 475 00:25:18,876 --> 00:25:20,836 Speaker 1: when you're getting people drunk on a boat and it's 476 00:25:20,876 --> 00:25:25,716 Speaker 1: part of your Yeah, it's always a dicey proposition. All right. Well, 477 00:25:25,756 --> 00:25:29,316 Speaker 1: speaking of propositions, I believe the advertisers might have a 478 00:25:29,316 --> 00:25:33,236 Speaker 1: few for my audience, So I need to put a 479 00:25:33,276 --> 00:25:35,836 Speaker 1: break in here. But when I get back, will you 480 00:25:35,836 --> 00:25:39,396 Speaker 1: give me a hand answering travel questions submitted by our audience. 481 00:25:39,636 --> 00:25:43,076 Speaker 1: I will give it a shot. Great, Okay, Not Lost Chat, 482 00:25:43,156 --> 00:25:48,996 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. All right, Welcome back to Not 483 00:25:49,076 --> 00:25:51,796 Speaker 1: Lost Chat. I am joined by writer, director and bomb 484 00:25:51,836 --> 00:25:55,436 Speaker 1: vivon Paul Feig, and we are now going to answer 485 00:25:55,436 --> 00:25:59,116 Speaker 1: your travel questions. Remember you can always submit your travel 486 00:25:59,196 --> 00:26:03,916 Speaker 1: questions to not Lost at pushkin dot FM. Are you ready, Paul? 487 00:26:04,236 --> 00:26:05,996 Speaker 1: Take everything I say with a grain of salt, people 488 00:26:06,036 --> 00:26:08,556 Speaker 1: out there, but bring it on. All right, Well, let 489 00:26:08,596 --> 00:26:12,996 Speaker 1: me find one here. Okay, I think I knew the 490 00:26:13,036 --> 00:26:14,796 Speaker 1: answer for this one, and it's not even on my list, 491 00:26:14,796 --> 00:26:16,676 Speaker 1: but it's always on my mind and it has been 492 00:26:17,636 --> 00:26:24,516 Speaker 1: out exactly. No, the question is airplanes dressing? What are 493 00:26:24,516 --> 00:26:27,476 Speaker 1: the rules of the road? You're talking? You're talking the 494 00:26:27,556 --> 00:26:29,836 Speaker 1: right guy for this. I've never flown without wearing a 495 00:26:29,876 --> 00:26:32,276 Speaker 1: suit and time I refused to do it. I just 496 00:26:32,356 --> 00:26:35,116 Speaker 1: because I you know, look, I get it. Share the 497 00:26:35,156 --> 00:26:38,196 Speaker 1: philosophy behind that. Yeah, Well I just think if you 498 00:26:38,276 --> 00:26:42,556 Speaker 1: lose respect for sort of miraculous things, and we've completely 499 00:26:42,916 --> 00:26:46,316 Speaker 1: forgotten that, like flying is a miracle that we can 500 00:26:46,356 --> 00:26:49,236 Speaker 1: do it, you know, And so to me, it's just like, 501 00:26:49,396 --> 00:26:53,316 Speaker 1: why would you treat it like anything other than that. 502 00:26:53,916 --> 00:26:56,276 Speaker 1: I get it, you know, you go through security and 503 00:26:56,316 --> 00:26:58,236 Speaker 1: the tear you to part and all that stuff, so 504 00:26:58,276 --> 00:26:59,956 Speaker 1: it's much easier to have the sweatpants and be able 505 00:26:59,956 --> 00:27:01,996 Speaker 1: to knock off your flip flops. But at the same time, 506 00:27:02,316 --> 00:27:05,156 Speaker 1: is that really the image you want to present to 507 00:27:05,196 --> 00:27:08,876 Speaker 1: the world when you're flying. I just I like that pageantry, 508 00:27:08,876 --> 00:27:11,036 Speaker 1: and I I mean, all I know is every time 509 00:27:11,076 --> 00:27:13,716 Speaker 1: I fly, everybody the airports, all the flight attendants, everybody 510 00:27:13,876 --> 00:27:15,716 Speaker 1: just like, oh my god, you should dressed up. That's 511 00:27:15,716 --> 00:27:18,476 Speaker 1: so nice, Like they appreciate it, you know. Yeah, I 512 00:27:18,756 --> 00:27:20,956 Speaker 1: think there's just something nice about it. And from a 513 00:27:20,996 --> 00:27:23,396 Speaker 1: practical point of view, it's one less suit you have 514 00:27:23,436 --> 00:27:25,476 Speaker 1: to pack, So there you go. I think having kind 515 00:27:25,476 --> 00:27:28,316 Speaker 1: of a uniform when you arrive someplace and then you 516 00:27:28,356 --> 00:27:30,276 Speaker 1: get to your hotel and then you want to go 517 00:27:30,356 --> 00:27:32,476 Speaker 1: downstairs and have a drink, you can change out of 518 00:27:32,556 --> 00:27:34,756 Speaker 1: your kind of travel armor. I agree, And then you 519 00:27:34,796 --> 00:27:36,516 Speaker 1: decide your mode. If you want to exercise, you put 520 00:27:36,516 --> 00:27:38,676 Speaker 1: on your exercise clothes. If you want to, you know, 521 00:27:38,836 --> 00:27:41,196 Speaker 1: go take a walk, maybe you put on sneakers. But yeah, 522 00:27:41,396 --> 00:27:43,916 Speaker 1: if you're always dressed the exact same way all the time, 523 00:27:43,956 --> 00:27:46,756 Speaker 1: there's no delineation point in your day. I'm so with you. 524 00:27:46,876 --> 00:27:50,876 Speaker 1: Years ago, I wrote an article for Esquire called responsible Tourism, 525 00:27:51,076 --> 00:27:54,036 Speaker 1: and the idea behind it is, well, we go on vacation. 526 00:27:54,636 --> 00:27:57,436 Speaker 1: We're all the background for everybody else's vacation photos and 527 00:27:57,556 --> 00:28:01,076 Speaker 1: vacation in general. You know, So that's that's an interesting Yeah. So, 528 00:28:01,116 --> 00:28:03,356 Speaker 1: like we go to Capri, you know, which we love, 529 00:28:03,636 --> 00:28:05,516 Speaker 1: and I always wear something nice, some kind of like 530 00:28:05,596 --> 00:28:08,756 Speaker 1: vacation wear or something, you know, jacket, And when we're 531 00:28:08,756 --> 00:28:10,476 Speaker 1: taking picture and I got a bunch of people in 532 00:28:10,516 --> 00:28:14,676 Speaker 1: like tiva's and cargo shorts and all that behind me, 533 00:28:14,716 --> 00:28:16,876 Speaker 1: it's like, well, now you've ruined my movie. I made 534 00:28:16,916 --> 00:28:19,356 Speaker 1: your movie look really good because they're like, oh look 535 00:28:19,356 --> 00:28:21,676 Speaker 1: how classy that is. And I got I'm stick with you. Yeah, 536 00:28:21,756 --> 00:28:25,236 Speaker 1: so yeah, you're messing up the scenes. That is interesting. Yeah, 537 00:28:25,476 --> 00:28:27,556 Speaker 1: all right, I have some actual questions now that aren't 538 00:28:27,556 --> 00:28:29,916 Speaker 1: just my arm. This one comes from Greta in New 539 00:28:29,996 --> 00:28:34,116 Speaker 1: York City, and she writes, generally, when we travel, my 540 00:28:34,196 --> 00:28:37,236 Speaker 1: husband thinks we should book the cheapest possible hotel room. 541 00:28:37,276 --> 00:28:39,276 Speaker 1: After all, he says, we're only going to be sleeping there. 542 00:28:39,756 --> 00:28:42,676 Speaker 1: I disagree. I want the place we are staying, even 543 00:28:42,716 --> 00:28:45,316 Speaker 1: just for a night, to have a great vibe. Who 544 00:28:45,396 --> 00:28:49,156 Speaker 1: is right? Lol? Stakes are medium, but she has she 545 00:28:49,196 --> 00:28:51,996 Speaker 1: has a good question. I say, Greta's right by all means. 546 00:28:52,316 --> 00:28:53,876 Speaker 1: I mean, look, it is true. And my wife and 547 00:28:53,916 --> 00:28:56,676 Speaker 1: I grapple with that sometimes too, because you know, sometimes 548 00:28:56,676 --> 00:28:58,956 Speaker 1: you'll get a chance to get like a really good room, 549 00:28:59,316 --> 00:29:00,516 Speaker 1: and it's like, are we going to be in it 550 00:29:00,716 --> 00:29:02,956 Speaker 1: enough to use it? But it's also the bed you're 551 00:29:02,996 --> 00:29:04,836 Speaker 1: gonna be on, the sheets that they're gonna have, what 552 00:29:04,916 --> 00:29:07,116 Speaker 1: the bathroom's gonna be, like, how they take care of you? 553 00:29:07,356 --> 00:29:09,676 Speaker 1: Now it's yeah, I mean, you know, as much as 554 00:29:09,676 --> 00:29:12,116 Speaker 1: you can. And I'm not saying, like, you know, go bankrupt, 555 00:29:12,156 --> 00:29:15,036 Speaker 1: but if you can afford it, get get the nicest 556 00:29:15,076 --> 00:29:16,956 Speaker 1: room you can afford. That doesn't, you know, put you 557 00:29:16,956 --> 00:29:19,516 Speaker 1: in trouble. Yeah, I think it's good. Yeah, it's because 558 00:29:19,556 --> 00:29:23,076 Speaker 1: it's a holistic experience, and sometimes you end up spending 559 00:29:23,116 --> 00:29:25,076 Speaker 1: more time than you want, or maybe you're happy to 560 00:29:25,116 --> 00:29:26,996 Speaker 1: spend more time in your hotel room. Yeah, so there 561 00:29:27,036 --> 00:29:29,636 Speaker 1: you go, Greta, that's that's our guidance for you. There 562 00:29:29,676 --> 00:29:32,996 Speaker 1: you go. Okay. This question comes from Maya and she asks, 563 00:29:33,636 --> 00:29:35,836 Speaker 1: if you're traveling with someone, is it okay if you 564 00:29:35,956 --> 00:29:38,836 Speaker 1: both want to do something different? Is it okay to 565 00:29:38,916 --> 00:29:40,596 Speaker 1: part ways for a bit on the trip to do 566 00:29:40,676 --> 00:29:42,916 Speaker 1: your own thing? Yes? Yes. My wife and I've been 567 00:29:42,916 --> 00:29:45,316 Speaker 1: married for twenty eight years, twenty eight happy years, together 568 00:29:45,356 --> 00:29:49,036 Speaker 1: for thirty two and you're like thirty four years old week. 569 00:29:49,276 --> 00:29:51,636 Speaker 1: I met her in the maternity ward when I was just, 570 00:29:52,636 --> 00:29:55,836 Speaker 1: I mean, creepy but beautiful exactly. So we always say 571 00:29:55,916 --> 00:29:59,916 Speaker 1: that the most successful relationships are where you're not tied 572 00:29:59,916 --> 00:30:01,956 Speaker 1: at the hip. You have to be able to spend 573 00:30:02,196 --> 00:30:05,756 Speaker 1: time apart, because look, I'm saying, there's probably couples have 574 00:30:05,796 --> 00:30:07,316 Speaker 1: been married for fifty years and never been out of 575 00:30:07,316 --> 00:30:09,836 Speaker 1: each other's sight. But I think that's a that's a 576 00:30:09,836 --> 00:30:12,796 Speaker 1: lot of pressure to put on on a relationship. And 577 00:30:13,076 --> 00:30:14,756 Speaker 1: it's worse if you go like one person wants to 578 00:30:14,796 --> 00:30:17,636 Speaker 1: do someone that a person doesn't really and you go 579 00:30:17,756 --> 00:30:20,156 Speaker 1: together and that person's like, you know, having a bad 580 00:30:20,196 --> 00:30:22,516 Speaker 1: time or being a downer, you're gonna have the big 581 00:30:22,556 --> 00:30:25,356 Speaker 1: fight versus if you just go off, have the greatest time. 582 00:30:25,436 --> 00:30:27,516 Speaker 1: Come back. You got stuff to talk about dinner? What 583 00:30:27,556 --> 00:30:30,516 Speaker 1: you did? You know? Yeah, get somebody a little present 584 00:30:30,516 --> 00:30:32,196 Speaker 1: while you're out, so then you can surprise, like, oh 585 00:30:32,236 --> 00:30:33,836 Speaker 1: look what I picked up when I was out. You know, 586 00:30:33,916 --> 00:30:35,916 Speaker 1: make it a fun thing. But but yeah, don't be 587 00:30:35,956 --> 00:30:38,036 Speaker 1: tied to the hid and and just the low level 588 00:30:38,116 --> 00:30:40,676 Speaker 1: tension you have. Bringing someone to museum that they were 589 00:30:40,676 --> 00:30:44,116 Speaker 1: ambivalent about almost undermines the whole trip for you. And 590 00:30:44,276 --> 00:30:47,636 Speaker 1: you're there all day. There's three meals, four five opportunities 591 00:30:47,636 --> 00:30:50,076 Speaker 1: to drink and eat. Yeah, you can always mix it up. 592 00:30:50,156 --> 00:30:54,276 Speaker 1: So yeah, I say, may I feel comfortable breaking away 593 00:30:54,316 --> 00:30:56,916 Speaker 1: from whoever it is. Yeah. I've heard a lot of 594 00:30:56,916 --> 00:30:59,556 Speaker 1: fights in places of like, oh you're actually you don't 595 00:30:59,556 --> 00:31:01,796 Speaker 1: want to be here. It's like, oh God, I'm like, oh, 596 00:31:01,876 --> 00:31:03,956 Speaker 1: I bet I bet that person didn't want to be there. 597 00:31:04,796 --> 00:31:06,436 Speaker 1: All right, Paulicians, you're so good at this. I'm gonna 598 00:31:06,436 --> 00:31:07,876 Speaker 1: throw one more out at you. I love this just 599 00:31:07,956 --> 00:31:11,756 Speaker 1: from Ashley from maryl Astley writes, I've always been nervous 600 00:31:11,796 --> 00:31:14,236 Speaker 1: about asking folks in the security line about cutting in 601 00:31:14,236 --> 00:31:16,036 Speaker 1: front of them when I'm running late for a flight. 602 00:31:16,476 --> 00:31:18,836 Speaker 1: I've never skipped a line, and I've miss flights because 603 00:31:18,876 --> 00:31:20,996 Speaker 1: of it. When do you think it's acceptable to cut 604 00:31:21,036 --> 00:31:24,396 Speaker 1: the line? What's the best way to ask the folks 605 00:31:24,396 --> 00:31:29,836 Speaker 1: in line. I'm with her, like, I'm really I don't 606 00:31:29,876 --> 00:31:32,156 Speaker 1: like to do that, you know, especially on my own. 607 00:31:32,316 --> 00:31:34,476 Speaker 1: What the times I've been able to do it is 608 00:31:34,516 --> 00:31:36,836 Speaker 1: when somebody who works at the airport and you're like, 609 00:31:37,156 --> 00:31:39,076 Speaker 1: before you get in the line, you're like, I'm in trouble, 610 00:31:39,436 --> 00:31:41,636 Speaker 1: we got held up or whatever, could you help me? 611 00:31:41,796 --> 00:31:43,956 Speaker 1: They will generally do it when you're doing it yourself. 612 00:31:44,156 --> 00:31:45,636 Speaker 1: I don't when people ask me is I was like, 613 00:31:46,036 --> 00:31:47,916 Speaker 1: all right, you know my head, I'm like, well you 614 00:31:47,916 --> 00:31:50,316 Speaker 1: should have got here, not like you know, that's on 615 00:31:50,476 --> 00:31:53,156 Speaker 1: you for That's a little bit of the thing. I 616 00:31:53,156 --> 00:31:55,876 Speaker 1: think you're right if you can have an escort, okay, 617 00:31:55,916 --> 00:31:58,076 Speaker 1: But otherwise, no matter what you say, no one's gonna 618 00:31:58,076 --> 00:32:01,556 Speaker 1: believe you. Everyone's gonna be resentful. Even Gandhi would be 619 00:32:01,596 --> 00:32:04,716 Speaker 1: angry in a security line if someone starts barging up 620 00:32:04,716 --> 00:32:07,276 Speaker 1: the path. Yeah, exactly, I did like the picture though 621 00:32:07,316 --> 00:32:10,156 Speaker 1: of you, you know, coming in late but dressed like 622 00:32:10,196 --> 00:32:12,916 Speaker 1: you are for the airport, like oh great, you know, 623 00:32:12,996 --> 00:32:15,596 Speaker 1: like James Bond. It needs to cut in front of me. Oh, 624 00:32:15,636 --> 00:32:18,516 Speaker 1: I know, like the rich guys getting in here. It's like, no, 625 00:32:19,436 --> 00:32:21,396 Speaker 1: I didn't want to pack my suit. I swear, I'm 626 00:32:21,396 --> 00:32:23,476 Speaker 1: not a jerk. I was running late because we liked 627 00:32:23,476 --> 00:32:25,796 Speaker 1: our hotel rooms. It's right. I couldn't get out of 628 00:32:25,796 --> 00:32:28,316 Speaker 1: the room. I was student. I was emptying the mini 629 00:32:28,356 --> 00:32:32,356 Speaker 1: bar Um. Paul, thank you so much for helping with 630 00:32:32,396 --> 00:32:36,156 Speaker 1: our etiquette questions or travel etiquette questions. Love and this 631 00:32:36,196 --> 00:32:38,116 Speaker 1: is a wonderful chat. Thank you so much. It's great. 632 00:32:38,276 --> 00:32:39,916 Speaker 1: Great Jude talk to you. There's a lot of fun. 633 00:32:44,636 --> 00:32:47,276 Speaker 1: That was Paul fig check out his new film The 634 00:32:47,356 --> 00:32:49,836 Speaker 1: School for Good and Evil, which I don't think it's 635 00:32:49,836 --> 00:32:52,476 Speaker 1: a Montessori school. And also you can pick up his 636 00:32:52,516 --> 00:32:55,916 Speaker 1: book Cocktail Time, which by the way, pairs well with 637 00:32:55,956 --> 00:33:01,756 Speaker 1: another book about adult fun called Brunch's hell. Um, I'm 638 00:33:01,836 --> 00:33:04,556 Speaker 1: spacing the name of the authors on that one, but um, 639 00:33:04,596 --> 00:33:07,956 Speaker 1: you can google it. Okay, that's it for this edition. 640 00:33:07,996 --> 00:33:10,676 Speaker 1: I'm not lost chat. As always, if you have traveled 641 00:33:10,716 --> 00:33:13,596 Speaker 1: questions that you want answered in a future episode, please 642 00:33:13,676 --> 00:33:16,956 Speaker 1: email me at Not Lost at Pushkin dot Fm or 643 00:33:17,036 --> 00:33:21,196 Speaker 1: ping me at BF Newnham on Twitter. 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