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Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 3: Twenty twenty six. Drake make definitely would have.

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Speaker 2: Won that game for the mist You drop the ball

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Speaker 2: five six times? Does that make you the better team?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: So when you drop the ball makes it better?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Guy has just told you how open these guys were.

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Speaker 2: You were lucky, go I know, but if you dropped

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Speaker 2: the ball, you dropped the ball. That's that's a lack

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Speaker 2: of execution.

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Speaker 5: You did what you wanted to do more than they

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Speaker 5: did what they.

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Speaker 2: Wanted to do. I think they wanted to catch the ball.

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Speaker 5: Did you ever see anybody so maddening as this?

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Speaker 6: This is not a shot like, it's just a different

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Speaker 6: way of watching the game. But you're great at at

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Speaker 6: seeing the game. I'm great at seeing like leak, Just

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Speaker 6: what about a drive starter? How are you going to

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Speaker 6: run duo within a one hundred and eighty pounds? Were

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Speaker 6: trying to dig out the nickels like good luck.

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Speaker 2: Had on a hat, right, I mean had on a hat.

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Speaker 2: I'm better than you.

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Speaker 1: This is Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 2: to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Wednesday here at Jillette Stadium,

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Speaker 2: but it's kind of like a Saturday.

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Speaker 3: At Jillette Stadium, so we shouldn't.

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Speaker 2: Be here in that the team is about to leave

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Speaker 2: the stadium to get to New Jersey to play the

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Speaker 2: New Jersey Jets on Thursday night. So excited about that.

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Speaker 2: Evan and I will be leaving the show a little

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Speaker 2: bit early today, so we have a little bit of

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Speaker 2: an altered schedule. We'll be doing our picks about twelve

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Speaker 2: forty in the show, and we'll do the picks, Evan

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Speaker 2: and I will leave, and then Alex, Alex Duce, Paul

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Speaker 2: will carry the show to the end.

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Speaker 3: It's right, yeah, triumphantly.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So it is Evan, it's Paul, it's me, it's Deuce,

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Speaker 2: it's Alex, it's Matt and Nabooth and we're here or

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Speaker 2: they're here until two o'clock talking Patriots getting ready for

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Speaker 2: this Thursday night clash on Prime Video. What are we thinking?

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Speaker 2: I love that, I think that I think the main

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Speaker 2: story is injuries, right, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, well I

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Speaker 3: Actually, did I think on Kten Wallace playing maybe playing

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Speaker 3: left tackle? Verdarian Lowe was not a practice. We saw

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Speaker 3: in about what seven fifteen last night, and then ray

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Speaker 3: Quia McMillan the other the other guy probably gonna fill

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Speaker 3: in a little bit for Juwan Bentley dug up. Somebody

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Speaker 3: Bentley's going through. They've become really close. It sounds like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Patriots aren't the only team dealing with injuries. The

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think you know, Thursday night games

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Speaker 5: Those guys are banged up. You know, we've seen all

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Speaker 5: He hasn't done anything at practice this week.

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Speaker 3: McDonald's really light too, So like that's the's the thing

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Speaker 6: Run right at them, so more the same run run run, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 6: right at them. Don't try to run into the alley.

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Speaker 6: Run it right at them. Yeah, you know you don't

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Speaker 6: not a team that you want to go east west against.

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Speaker 6: They got east west guys. You want to go right

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Speaker 5: Ball right for more gap and duo than the round exactly.

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Speaker 5: Jets haven't really done much offensively.

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Speaker 5: Now to now, we just lost like half of our

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Speaker 5: viewership for tomorrow night. They don't need to chime in

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Speaker 5: That's part of the pregame show.

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Speaker 6: They throw to the backs a lot. Yeah, they really don't.

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Speaker 5: They haven't had a lot of variations beyond what he

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Speaker 5: There was a story I saw today that said he

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Speaker 6: So it's not quite, like I said, as much hype

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Speaker 5: Did you hear that about Wallace or a winner?

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Speaker 2: But that was a whole different issue.

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Speaker 2: It's definitely Caiten Wallace. And it wasn't like, you know,

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Speaker 2: you're a rookie, that's a lot of a bigger deal

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Speaker 5: back to guard. And then when Vederian Lowe is healthy again,

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Speaker 5: still get Evansky in the draft next year go left?

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Speaker 6: Can Who can Valerian low play the right now? He's

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Speaker 6: been a disaster playing right tackle?

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Speaker 2: Actually, because I'd rather I mean, if Kane Wallace could

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Speaker 6: I'm sure he probably could have in practice and you

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Speaker 3: I don't feel great about this game, to be honest, Wow,

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Speaker 2: Listen, the Patriots are going to be underdogs. They should

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Speaker 2: I'm not a scared. I'm not going like, oh God,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I I don't think, but I just think

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Speaker 5: To file that one.

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Speaker 7: That's why that's the answer I was looking for. We

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Speaker 7: not scared, but no, But that's why than the Garrett

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Speaker 2: Because of the way we really didn't look that great

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Speaker 6: Agreed. I think he's been Nancy in the pocket through

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Speaker 2: Well, I agree, it is interesting because not that Gino

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Speaker 2: So how does that change up the Patriots defensive game plan?

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Speaker 2: You know, like you figure he's going to be staying

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Speaker 6: I just watching him play so far with Rogers, he

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Speaker 6: They give you play soft coverage against them. That plays

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Speaker 6: White after him like that. That's what I would do.

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Speaker 6: right now that's coming off a torn Achilles still drops

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Speaker 6: dimes like you can still throw the ball, don't get

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Speaker 8: Okay, that being said, though, I think I wouldn't have

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Speaker 2: Not unless dialed up right, not not when you're rushing

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's I mean, then listen to Evan talk.

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Speaker 3: make them have to move. It'll be a chess match

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Speaker 5: Here yet, you were one of us then that yeah, years.

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Speaker 6: Ago, that was like seventeen.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they played Tampa one year. They played Atlanta, I

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Speaker 2: Yesterday, we were talking about Pop Doug why he hasn't

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Speaker 3: I just if I was the Jets, I wouldn't overthink it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't get out of what I do. I

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Speaker 3: that way instead of you know, oh, we're going to

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Speaker 3: change our game plan up to take Pop Douglas away,

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Speaker 5: It seems a little and I know I'm a broken

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Speaker 5: one hundred and thirty, one hundred and fifty yards, whatever

438
00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,560
Speaker 5: it is. But you got to come up with some

439
00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,080
Speaker 5: key stops when you need them. And CJ. Moseley is

440
00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:54,680
Speaker 5: a big that's a big loss for them. What's a matter?

441
00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:54,880
Speaker 3: Fred?

442
00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,439
Speaker 5: Did you fumble around? Did you fumble?

443
00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:58,920
Speaker 3: I lost my shoes.

444
00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:00,720
Speaker 5: You got to get the mouse, I mean find my

445
00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,480
Speaker 5: shoes anyway, Well, I was to your point, Paul, it's

446
00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,119
Speaker 5: it's like explosive scoring runs right like that. That's just

447
00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:08,800
Speaker 5: the no no.

448
00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,320
Speaker 3: But I mean, you've been consistent on this, and you're

449
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,800
Speaker 3: defensively being consistent with it as well, where you're like,

450
00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,240
Speaker 3: it's hard to win games running the ball. So let's

451
00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:17,400
Speaker 3: you know, don't freak out.

452
00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,880
Speaker 5: So I just read something before the show show prep.

453
00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,399
Speaker 5: You imagine that me now. It was it was something

454
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,520
Speaker 5: that Evan would have been very impressed with because it

455
00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:31,920
Speaker 5: was very uh, very specifically stat the nickels stat No,

456
00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,640
Speaker 5: they didn't have any any five to nine slot receivers.

457
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,159
Speaker 5: Having to dig out the nickel on on.

458
00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, you had it, you knew what it was.

459
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:40,919
Speaker 9: I know.

460
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,679
Speaker 5: I just wanted to hear you finish it. So just

461
00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,760
Speaker 5: talking about all the stuff that we've been talking about

462
00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,240
Speaker 5: the last year plus now, like the offense is down

463
00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,720
Speaker 5: a little bit, defenses are pushing back all the two

464
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,760
Speaker 5: high safety looks, and this gentleman, I think it was

465
00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 5: Jared Dubin from CBS Sports. Yeah, so I want to

466
00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,440
Speaker 5: credit him because I read a lot. It's obviously very

467
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:07,200
Speaker 5: thoroughly researched in terms of alignments and throws and epas

468
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 5: and all that stuff. Truth be told, I glossed right

469
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,080
Speaker 5: over all the charts because I had no interest in

470
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,200
Speaker 5: any of them. Those are the best part. It's like

471
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,919
Speaker 5: a picture book. So what it showed is that teams

472
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,640
Speaker 5: are daring to you know, they've they're giving you light boxes,

473
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 5: they're daring you to run, and they're daring you to

474
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,960
Speaker 5: throw it short of the sticks. Teams are throwing it

475
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,640
Speaker 5: shorter of first downs on third downs now than ever before,

476
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,200
Speaker 5: and they're rallying to the ball and tackling and they're

477
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,720
Speaker 5: basically taking the bait. Offenses are falling right into the trap.

478
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Speaker 5: And the writer's point is when they've actually tested the

479
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 5: too high and they've tried to get downfield, it's working

480
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,399
Speaker 5: at a higher rate than it was in the past,

481
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,919
Speaker 5: but teams are still not doing it as much as

482
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:49,439
Speaker 5: they should.

483
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:50,280
Speaker 2: So his.

484
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Speaker 5: Sort of takeaway is offense is down a little bit

485
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 5: because they're taking the bait of what defenses are trying

486
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 5: to give them, and that's keeping points down as a result.

487
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,400
Speaker 5: Because it's a hot and he actually used the term

488
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 5: that we've used throughout the last two weeks is it's

489
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 5: a hard way to make a living. Yeah, when you're

490
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 5: having to constantly get double digit plays to put a

491
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 5: scoring drive together without any mistakes.

492
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Speaker 6: Yeah, that that's I guess My one rebuttal to the Patriots,

493
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 6: like not loading up and trying to stop the Patriots

494
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 6: running loaded, running game, is just that that that's their

495
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 6: Their path to victory is shortening the game, keeping the

496
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 6: scoring low. If you get into a game with the

497
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 6: Patriots where it's Jacoby Brissett versus Aaron Rodgers, literally the

498
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 6: Jets are gonna win that game. They might win that

499
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 6: game going away like that. That might be a blowout

500
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 6: if you get into that kind of game. The Patriots

501
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 6: want to run the ball, milk clock, shorten the game,

502
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,439
Speaker 6: and win this game tomorrow night, sixteen to thirteen.

503
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 2: Yep.

504
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 6: Like that's exactly how they want to play the football game.

505
00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 6: If I'm the opponent, I'm saying, well, you might win

506
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 6: a game like that against US. So you could win

507
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 6: a game like that against a good team.

508
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 5: You know why, if I were the Jets, I wouldn't

509
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 5: sit there and you know say, well I got to

510
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 5: take what they've given me. No. I would make them

511
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 5: make plays down the field and try to put points

512
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 5: on the board.

513
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, agreed, All right, Well.

514
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:19,120
Speaker 2: What do we think?

515
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 5: I don't know, you had a big I just want

516
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 5: to swim that was done?

517
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 3: Yet, do we have any of it. What happened now

518
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 3: Cocoa Cox was reporting not that, but swiming was done.

519
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 3: So I and now I'm not sure.

520
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 5: I'm going to try to be nice.

521
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 8: He wasn't at our game this weekend, No sway, the

522
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,200
Speaker 8: whole team came out, he wasn't there.

523
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 6: I noted that. It's like looking at the picture like

524
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 6: swim and swim and sweat.

525
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 2: Do your hockey talk on your own?

526
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 3: Sorry?

527
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 2: All right? Eight five five Pats five hundred is the

528
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,360
Speaker 2: eight ticket hotline web radio at pages dot com. It's

529
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 2: the email address. Remember we're going to be doing picks

530
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 2: uh in about at about twelve forty or so, because

531
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 2: Evan and I have to leave early, so I want

532
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 2: to get in some calls and emails before I leave

533
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 2: so I can I can take care of our listeners. Uh.

534
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 2: Justina is in North Carolina. What's up? Justina? Hi?

535
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 10: Everyone. I just want to say once, I know a

536
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 10: little bit about football. I never played football, but I

537
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,199
Speaker 10: know he was just as a cheerleader and band and

538
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 10: all that, So I do know a little bit, but

539
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 10: I don't know the names of dispositions that well. But

540
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 10: I was thinking that I kind of feel started for

541
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:36,880
Speaker 10: Jacoby because he.

542
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 11: He he I.

543
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,919
Speaker 10: Feel like he's fighting for his life. I mean I

544
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 10: was at first, I was like, oh, oh, Dre, but

545
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 10: I just look at Kobe's personality. Seems like he's fighting

546
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 10: for its life and he's take it hits, and I

547
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 10: think he's if he's hurt, he's not gonna come out.

548
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 10: And that's kind of that's kind of you know, I'm

549
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 10: kind of sad about that, Yeah, because he knows if

550
00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 10: Drake comes in, Drake may come in for a little

551
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 10: while and do better than him, And I think that

552
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 10: may feel like he may they may bench him. But

553
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 10: I kind of feel sorry for him in that respect.

554
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 10: It's kind of selfish. But at the same time, it's

555
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 10: kind of it's kind of like, you know, I feel

556
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 10: sorry for him.

557
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,719
Speaker 2: Because I hear you Justina, Oh sorry about that.

558
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 5: No, I hear point.

559
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 2: It is a great point because but at the same time,

560
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 2: he knew what he was getting into when he came here.

561
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,199
Speaker 2: You know, they were gonna you know, they had this

562
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 2: young kid, and he's a placeholder and he knows that.

563
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 2: But I hear what she's saying, you got that job,

564
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 2: you don't want to give it up. You're gonna like

565
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 2: you're gonna until like he has to be carted off.

566
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 2: He's not gonna come out of a game. And you know,

567
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 2: it gets back to the whole tour thing, you know,

568
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 2: like what's best for the player. But players want to

569
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 2: play and they're gonna do whatever they can to play.

570
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 2: This is what they know how to do. This is

571
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 2: what they did all their lives, and and you get

572
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 2: a situation like this, Justina is exactly right. If make

573
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 2: comes in and he does well as we hope he will,

574
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 2: he's never going to be taken out. That's it.

575
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 3: Evan had a good locker room stat last night with Jacobe.

576
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 3: I'll I can see you up to which one one

577
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 3: turnover worthy play?

578
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 5: Yeah?

579
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, zero big time throws to one turnover worthy play.

580
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 6: So he's literally just doing managing the game.

581
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 3: Almost net neutral.

582
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 6: He's literally net neutral. He's fifteenth in the league and

583
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 6: EPA out of thirty one quarterback so he's literally smack

584
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 6: dab in the middle of the league right now in

585
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 6: terms of quarterback play. He doesn't make any plays and

586
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 6: he doesn't cost you any plays, and that's all it is.

587
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 6: And unfortunately they just have an offense that doesn't create

588
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 6: a lot of layups for the quarterback in the passing game,

589
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 6: Like if they were able to create some open guys

590
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 6: down the field, I think he would get him the ball.

591
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 6: But he's not going to make plays happen on his own,

592
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:53,199
Speaker 6: and that's sort of where they're at.

593
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 3: That's why I think it's the turnovers. When the turnovers

594
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 3: start happened, and that's when the drum beat for Drake

595
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 3: will get loud and I think we'll all be on

596
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,360
Speaker 3: board because if he starts turning the ball over, then

597
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 3: that whole Matt neutral thing is out the win.

598
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 8: Well, that's the thing. To this point, it's kind of

599
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 8: been a pleasant surprise how Jacobe's handled pressure, and I

600
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 8: feel like there should be way more turnovers at this point,

601
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 8: way more sacks that they've taken. And maybe it is

602
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 8: that element of he's playing to keep this job and

603
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 8: has a lot to prove the whole NFL. But in

604
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 8: my eyes, at least, I was way pleasantly surprised.

605
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 2: Well, like, maybe this is a kind of a question

606
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 2: for Evan, but anyone can answer, like this AVP offense,

607
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 2: isn't it supposed to be sort of like a West

608
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 2: Coast offense because it doesn't look like West Coast.

609
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 6: To me on third down, yeah, or like obvious passing situations. Sure,

610
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 6: but like everything that they run early down is based

611
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 6: off the run game. So like you their their run

612
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 6: run play action on first and second down. So this

613
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 6: is the modern West Coast. This is not Bill Walsh's

614
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 6: West Coast. It kind of is in the passing game

615
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 6: when they get into obvious you know, drop back pass,

616
00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 6: but early downs this is you know, Shanahan Cleveland that

617
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 6: kind of stuff. Like this is outside zone. It's play action.

618
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 6: It's uh, you know, seven step drop from under center,

619
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 6: like they it's not what Joe Montana was running in

620
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 6: the eighties.

621
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 2: Type of you know, boom boom boom.

622
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 6: It's supposed to be yeah, yeah, right, it's supposed to

623
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 6: be an obvious past situations when they're straight drop back

624
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 6: and that's that's the idea that that's the whole left

625
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 6: foot forward thing and like all that kind of stuff

626
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 6: is all predicated on the timing of the offense. But

627
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 6: it's not. Their early down stuff is different from what

628
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 6: they were maybe doing.

629
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know, to me, that type of offense

630
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 2: requires guys that can get open on time.

631
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, like pop Douglas maybe, but you know, L from.

632
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 2: Wisconsin rights and I just wanted to give my take

633
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 2: on when May should start next week versus the forty

634
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 2: nine ers. Everything is going for it, long week of

635
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 2: preparation and on top of that, no expectations to win.

636
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 2: Throw five picks, best d in the league. He's fine,

637
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 2: we weren't gonna win in that game anyway. That that

638
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 2: lets him get experience under his belt from Miami, which

639
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 2: should be a winnable game with a backup quarterback.

640
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 6: Okay, I'm gonna startgainst the forty nine ers, Yeah, okay, right,

641
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 6: lower expectations.

642
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I think unfortunately more and more if Jacoby

643
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 3: keeps getting hit like this, it's this is not going

644
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 3: to be a conversation we have too much longer because

645
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 3: he's going to be out.

646
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 5: I just wish I had more information on Drake, that's

647
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 5: all right? About his readiness?

648
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, how's he doing when we don't see him like

649
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 2: in the in the in the quarterback room when they're

650
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 2: watching film. You know, how's how does it? You know,

651
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 2: what's his mental capacity?

652
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,959
Speaker 5: And we should mention that that L just brought up

653
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 5: Miami officially to who was placed on ir so yeah,

654
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 5: you'll avoid him at least in the first matchup. We'll

655
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 5: see what happens long term with him in that concussion

656
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 5: in Poland.

657
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 2: So we faced the Bengals without Higgins, Seahawks without Walker,

658
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 2: Jets without the best pass rushers, forty nine ers without

659
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 2: CMC and Debo, and now Miami without Tua. I think

660
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 2: what Paul may have had something. I think that Paul

661
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 2: may have had something when he always said that we

662
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 2: always seem to catch the biggest breaks. If I'm Miami,

663
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,719
Speaker 2: I'm making a call to Carolina right now and asking

664
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 2: about Bryce Young. What do you think are the odds

665
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 2: that may starts the London game. Before the season, it

666
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 2: seemed more than likely. Now it seems to be a

667
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 2: long shot.

668
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 6: There's a lot of questions, and one.

669
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 2: That's opposite for what El said. I mean, we are

670
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 2: getting breaks.

671
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 9: You know.

672
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

673
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 5: I just think they're the same as that you've gotten

674
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 5: pretty consistently the last couple of years. I mean for

675
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 5: a while. But you caught a lot of breaks the

676
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 5: last two years too and didn't take advantage of them.

677
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I I I mean Bryce Young is not

678
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 6: that's not happening, Like they just paid to two hundred

679
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 6: million dollars or something.

680
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 5: Well the only thing that like it wouldn't have and

681
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 5: like now, yeah, but if Tua decides to retire, maybe

682
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 5: then maybe that is something that McDaniel says, Hey, you know,

683
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 5: I can work with that and fix it. I would

684
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 5: be skeptical of that because I just.

685
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 3: Think, oh, it's take a while.

686
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 5: I think the speed, yeah, and I think that's and

687
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 5: then when just watching the offense, Miami's offense, it looks

688
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 5: like that's a lot there's a lot of stuff that

689
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 5: goes on in that, Like there's a lot of sort

690
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 5: of like I don't know, a lot of faking, a

691
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 5: lot of you know, carrying out on fakes, a lot

692
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 5: of Yeah, it could probably a better way to put it,

693
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 5: Like there's a lot of misdirection stuff that I don't

694
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 5: think you could just roll out of bed and know.

695
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 5: I'd be curious to see what it looks like with

696
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 5: Skylet Thompson this week for them for Miami, because I

697
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 5: know everybody thinks Tua sucks and you know, but they

698
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 5: tend to only win games when he plays. But in fairness,

699
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 5: I said that a lot about San Francisco when it

700
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 5: was Jimmy and they win more with brock Pery than

701
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 5: they did with Jimmy because all the other guys between

702
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 5: those two couldn't win any games. But it turns out

703
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 5: that was more of a C. J. Bethard slash Nick

704
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 5: Mullen's problem than it was anything that Garoppolo was doing.

705
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 6: I do wonder if the Patriots face Skyler Thompson, like,

706
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 6: maybe it's Ryan Tannehill, maybe it's you know, somebody like that.

707
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 6: A lot of those lines at that way.

708
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 2: Like Paul said, you're bringing in somebody, you know.

709
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,719
Speaker 5: I thought it was interesting they brought in Huntley, Tyrone Huntley.

710
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 5: Evidently he is Tyler Tyler. What's his nickname?

711
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 6: Snoop snoops.

712
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 5: I didn't know someone someone on Twitter? Just but you know,

713
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 5: Snoop hunt Is that a thing?

714
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 6: Yes it is.

715
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 5: I got caught being, you know, fifty six again. I

716
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 5: just just went right over my head.

717
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 6: Again, sipping that gin and juice.

718
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 2: And in la. In regards to the Jacoby versus May conversation,

719
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 2: I think the two main objections to make playing right

720
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 2: now is one he doesn't know the system. In two,

721
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 2: the offensive line is too bad. He's gonna get hurt.

722
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 2: Would you agree if you do. I have two points

723
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 2: to prove how may should start in regards to him

724
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: not knowing the system? Does Jacoby know the system? I've

725
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 2: not seen someone who can skillfully operate this offense. And secondly,

726
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 2: I do not think this offense would work without heavy

727
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 2: play action. And I don't think the play action would

728
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 2: have work because there is an unwillingness from Jacoby to

729
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 2: throw down field, which leads me to the offensive line.

730
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 2: Would the pressure be less if the defense was getting

731
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 2: cooked by a quarterback who could stretch the field. I

732
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 2: have seen many missed receivers that are wide open deep.

733
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 2: If the field is condensed, the pressure will increase. Okay, well,

734
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 2: I think you're saying it's all about, you know, making

735
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 2: the offense look better.

736
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 6: I would strongly disagree with here that he's seen many

737
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 6: receivers who are wide open deep. There are some it's

738
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 6: an NFL game. There are gonna be sometimes that you

739
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 6: can watch the game and it's easy.

740
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 5: I you know, I belienus and you JT. O.

741
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 6: Sullivan always says that it's easy to with a clicker,

742
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 6: Like you can sit here with a clicker watching the

743
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 6: game back and say play target practice and say, oh

744
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 6: he should have hit this guy, that guy, this guy,

745
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 6: that guy. Like you when you don't know the progressions,

746
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 6: you don't know where his eyes are, you don't know

747
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 6: what he's feeling in the pocket. Like, it's really hard

748
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 6: to go out and say that there aren't a lot

749
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 6: of open receivers down the field. He is not a

750
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 6: risk taker. So when you combine those two things together,

751
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 6: he is not going to give a fifty to fifty

752
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,959
Speaker 6: ball to Jalen Polk down the field because.

753
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 2: Sometimes you got to throw them open.

754
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 6: Evan, I don't disagree, and that's where the Drake May

755
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 6: conversation comes in. But that's where they're at right now.

756
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 6: Or there is not a lot of opportunities to push it,

757
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 6: and if he is going to push it, then he's

758
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 6: putting it in harm's way and he doesn't want to

759
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 6: do that, all right.

760
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 2: Jim and Virginia on the TPX Hotline. What's up, Jim.

761
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 11: Frank's good afternoon to the Pale. I have a follow

762
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 11: up questions to what you were just talking about. Thank you, Pad.

763
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 5: Some will success running the ball in the last two games,

764
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 5: and I really enjoyed seeing that, but they have they.

765
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 11: Have had no play action and I don't understand why not.

766
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 11: I'll listen to what you have to say.

767
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks Jim. Why no play action?

768
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 5: I'm sure there are a lot of reasons. Mine is

769
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 5: is I don't feel like they have a lot of

770
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 5: faith in having him turn his back to it.

771
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, maybe they're worried about him

772
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 2: turning his back to the defense.

773
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a couple of factors, Like you'd have to

774
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 6: divvy up a pie, right Like I would say the

775
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 6: biggest one blame slice goes to the offensive line. They

776
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 6: just don't really have the blocking to hold up in

777
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 6: the play action game right now. Like there are times

778
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 6: where they play action and it works and then there's

779
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 6: pressure in his face and that causes issues on the throw.

780
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 6: I think the second thing is is that they, you

781
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 6: know Paul is talking about it earlier, these trends of

782
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 6: playing a lot of these two deep safety shelves. When

783
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 6: they dial up play action, they're seeing a lot of

784
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 6: split safety and that you're not going to attack the

785
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 6: deep part of the field when teams are playing those

786
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 6: types of coverages. And the last thing, he's missed some throws,

787
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 6: Like he has missed some throws here he had a

788
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 6: Jalen Polk on a cross or off of play action

789
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 6: on Sunday that you know wide right, you know those

790
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 6: types of throws do happen. But when you put all

791
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 6: those things together, it's where they're at. I would say

792
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 6: the biggest thing though, is they just can't block it.

793
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 6: Like play action takes time. You have to dry out

794
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 6: the you know, the run fake, You have to get

795
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 6: the fake off, you have to turn back around, you

796
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 6: have to get your eyes up the field and make

797
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 6: the throw. That can take three and a half four

798
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 6: seconds to do and they don't have that kind of time.

799
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I would just say that, you know, the

800
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 5: numbers again in week two were very similar to Week

801
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 5: one in yards after contact for the running game. So like,

802
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 5: I know people are like, when you're running the ball this, well,

803
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 5: you should be able to play action. And we've talked

804
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 5: about this a lot. There's really not much of a

805
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 5: correlation between successful running in play action. You can play

806
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 5: action if you dial it up, you know, you time

807
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 5: it right, you get the right situations and what not.

808
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 5: But I would say that based on what I've seen

809
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 5: in two games, there's plenty of defenders around to make

810
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,959
Speaker 5: these stops in the running game, they're like they're coming

811
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 5: into the backfield, you know, not unblocked, but quickly. So

812
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 5: if you're gonna consistently turn your back to the to

813
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 5: the defense and it's not a running play, well that's

814
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 5: not a tackle. You're breaking to get the yards on offense,

815
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 5: you're just going after the quarterback who's not knowing you're coming.

816
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 5: And I think Alex made the point earlier about being

817
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 5: pleasantly surprised at how many sacks per set is avoided.

818
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 5: I would agree with that. I think, what is it

819
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 5: like four sacks in two games. It's like it should

820
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 5: be at least double that.

821
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 6: So he's been sacked four times on twenty seven pressure dropbacks.

822
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 6: So he's eighth in the league in pressure to sacarate,

823
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 6: which is pretty good. I pressure to sacerates one of

824
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 6: those stats that I particularly like because it shows how

825
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 6: good quarterbacks are at handling pressure and avoiding sacks. And

826
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 6: he's eighth in the league. You know, guys, Caleb Williams

827
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 6: is dead last right, he takes a lot of sacks.

828
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 6: So very first play action drop back of the game

829
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 6: last week, they blits both corners off the edges and

830
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 6: he's like dead to rights in the pocket and he

831
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 6: somehow gets out and gets Hunter Henry on an offscript play,

832
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 6: Like he's made quite a bit of those types of

833
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 6: plays getting out of pressure, so he deserves credit for that.

834
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 2: All right. As I warned everyone, we're a little bit

835
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 2: out of sequence this game, this show. Because the team's

836
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 2: leaving for New Jersey. Evan and I are gonna have

837
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 2: to leave, but we want to get our picks in

838
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 2: while we're all here. So it is that time.

839
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 3: This was bad, wasn't it?

840
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 2: Last week was a disaster?

841
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 8: Was there seven or six upsets?

842
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 5: I was fine, really really bad? No, you didn't. Everybody

843
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 5: was really really bad. I was by by far the worst.

844
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 6: I don't know what's going on with Uncle Poly's.

845
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 5: As he puts on his classes. So the winner, Evan

846
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 5: is right, you know, he was the winner. I would

847
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 5: not be flexing over nine and seven mark. But however,

848
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 5: in a week two it was the best. That was terrible.

849
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 6: It's above five hundred Week two, followed.

850
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 5: By Alex and Fred at seven and nine. This is

851
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 5: overall seven and nine, followed by Mike at six and ten,

852
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 5: and Paul five and E left. Wow, how bad you

853
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 5: have to be to go five and eleven, just big

854
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 5: in the games.

855
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 3: Week two though you don't really know.

856
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 5: Embarrassing.

857
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 8: Week one and two hardest.

858
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 5: With a spread Alex, Alex and Evan with a spread

859
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 5: eight seven and one, followed by Mike and Fred seven

860
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 5: eight and one and Paul six nine and one. Terrible.

861
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 5: So here are the the overall standings. Mike and Alex

862
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 5: lead the way at nineteen and thirteen, followed by Evan

863
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 5: at eighteen and fourteen and Paul and Fred sixteen and

864
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 5: high five sixteen and sixteen. You've got to try to

865
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 5: be that's all right with the spread. Fred at least

866
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 5: responds with the spread, un like me. Eighteen twelve and two.

867
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 5: He's leading the way, followed by Evan at seventeen thirteen

868
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 5: and two, Mike sixteen fourteen and two, Alex fifteen fifteen

869
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 5: and two, and Paul thirteen seventeen and two.

870
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 2: Okay, so we got a lot of make it up

871
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 2: to do. Week three of us now we should all

872
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 2: have a.

873
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 5: Two twenty four of the Zaro picks content.

874
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 2: I'm expecting everyone to improve on those numbers this week.

875
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,959
Speaker 5: We're gonna I make no promises, We're gonna skip.

876
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 6: Over the Patriots didn't even mention that I got the

877
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 6: exact score correct on the Patriots game as well.

878
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:56,720
Speaker 2: I didn't.

879
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 5: I didn't mention that because I don't write it down.

880
00:40:58,960 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 2: It's not right.

881
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 8: Forget my score. I pick is instantly when I leave

882
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 8: this room.

883
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 6: Well, I didn't, because I got it right.

884
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 5: That's a that's a good point. I wouldn't. I wouldn't

885
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 5: forget it if.

886
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 2: I said seventeen sixteen Patriots, I was off.

887
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 6: Wrong twenty three Seahawks.

888
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 3: That is what the score was.

889
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 2: All right, Let's let's get to the one o'clock games

890
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 2: on Sunday on Fox. It's the zero to two Giants

891
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 2: at the one and one Browns.

892
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 5: Cleveland by six, six points.

893
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take Cleveland to win at home, but I'm

894
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 3: gonna take those points from the from the Giants. This

895
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 3: Knabbers guy looked pretty good last week.

896
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 6: Eighteen targets.

897
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 8: We're gonna be close, but I'm gonna follow Deuce's lead.

898
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 6: So the Giants loss last week by scoring three touchdowns

899
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,240
Speaker 6: to zero touchdowns for the opponent. Washington kicked seven field

900
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 6: goals and won that game, which is wild. I am

901
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 6: gonna take Cleveland as well, and I'm gonna do the

902
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 6: same thing as you guys. I'm gonna take Cleveland, but

903
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 6: I'm gonna take the Giants to cover.

904
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 5: I am going to take Cleveland. Both ways. Something not

905
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 5: right the Giants. There's a lot of bickering. I think

906
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 5: my boy Dable's hearing way too much. I don't like.

907
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:19,959
Speaker 5: I don't like what's going on there.

908
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 6: Bad Mojo Ye bring him here, yep.

909
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 2: I'm with Paul Brown's both ways. I think the collapse

910
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 2: they they played. They had spirit last week. The Giants did,

911
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 2: but I think that's it. They're done. One o'clock on CBS,

912
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 2: the one and one Bears are at the oh to

913
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 2: two Colts.

914
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 5: Ind by one.

915
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 3: Oh tough one? Ah, what's that? What's that really? Though? Fred?

916
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 2: Well, they're minus two then plus two.

917
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 3: Well there you go. Tells ya Ally to know.

918
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 5: I don't know.

919
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Cleveland at home.

920
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 2: No Indies plus one, they get three, so they're minus two.

921
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 5: They're at home, so they they get three, right, right,

922
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 5: So it's really like they're plus two.

923
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:07,240
Speaker 2: They should be four.

924
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 5: So if you're getting three, that means they're favored by one.

925
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 2: They're not getting it.

926
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 5: They are get they're giving points they're favored by one.

927
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 2: They didn't get the three.

928
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 5: If you could follow the nonsensical three points for the hotel,

929
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:24,760
Speaker 5: what would the spread be if it was neutral.

930
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 6: Don't bring me into this anyone one.

931
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 3: Plus three because you get three points at home, you

932
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 3: would you're giving yeah, plus three plus two if it

933
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 3: was zero. I thought you get three at go three

934
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 3: at home.

935
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 5: He says you get three. It's not it doesn't exist.

936
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 5: But he insists that you get three at home.

937
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 3: That's a rule.

938
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 5: So they're favored by one.

939
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 3: Doesn't three minus three zero, So.

940
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 5: That would be minusing three.

941
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 2: You said it was zero, that would be you gotta hurry,

942
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 2: We gotta hurry, you gotta hurry.

943
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 10: What the.

944
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:03,280
Speaker 5: Sorry? Indy by one, indoor turf game, Indy by.

945
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 3: One, Mike, Indie Indian I'll lay the points at home

946
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 3: against Kayleb Williams. I think, I don't know.

947
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 5: I don't feel great about it.

948
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 8: I also don't feel great about it, but Indie both ways.

949
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 6: I'm just gonna take Indy because they're at home. I

950
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 6: guess I don't know. I have any good feel for

951
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 6: this game at all. I think both these teams are

952
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 6: kind of mediocre. But I'm gonna go indie indie.

953
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I kind of liked a lot of what I

954
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 5: saw from from Williams in the first half of the

955
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 5: Houston game. But I'm gonna take I'm gonna take any.

956
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 2: I think this is a layup Colts easy, easy, confidence

957
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 2: CBS one o'clock two and O Texans at the two

958
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 2: and oh Vikings.

959
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 5: Houston by two and a half.

960
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 6: Sneaky good game.

961
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 3: Sneaky good game indeed, although you wouldn't have thought so

962
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 3: before last week. Not Minnesota win, but you know what,

963
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Houston. I just didn't really impressed

964
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 3: with them. I think Minnesota falls back to earth a

965
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 3: little bit, but I'll I'll lay those two and a half.

966
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 5: Who you took Houston, Yes, please see I agree.

967
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 8: I think not necessarily a reality check for Minnesota, but

968
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,720
Speaker 8: just bring him back down a little bit. Houston, Houston.

969
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 6: Yeah. I don't know about Justin Jefferson in this game.

970
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 6: Looks like his status is somewhat questionable. But I'm gonna

971
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 6: go Houston Houston too. I think Minnesota's it's been nice

972
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 6: with Sam Darnold, but eventually they gotta come to roost.

973
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, and Jordan Addison didn't finish that previous game either.

974
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 5: I don't know what his status is, but I also

975
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take Houston both ways. The Viking's huge win,

976
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 5: you know, against the Niners. Kind of hard to to

977
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 5: ratchet it back up. But Minnesota has been impressive.

978
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna take the Texas, but I will take

979
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 2: those points. So close game in Minnesota, nail biter Fox

980
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 2: at one o'clock, the one and one Eagles are at

981
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 2: the two and oh Saints.

982
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 5: How about them? Saints? New Orleans by two and half for.

983
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,760
Speaker 6: Derek Carr, thank you, Alvin Camira.

984
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,919
Speaker 3: Saints by two and a half. Correct, Yeah, I'm gonna

985
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 3: do it. I'm gonna do New Orleans at home. Keep

986
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 3: the train rolling Philadelphia some questions. I don't know. This

987
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,280
Speaker 3: happened last year, right like they started losing some games

988
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 3: and they just started games still later. I know it's

989
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,439
Speaker 3: starting earlier this year. I think I'll take New Orleans

990
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 3: and later points.

991
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 8: I'm gonna take Philly. I'm going to give New Orleans

992
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 8: the points.

993
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 6: Nick Sirianni on full fraud watch, so.

994
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 5: You know New Orleans is favored. So you're taking Philly.

995
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:36,240
Speaker 8: Oh not on mine? Okay, Sorry, sorry.

996
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,919
Speaker 5: We go by Draft Kings. That is our sponsor, Draft Kings.

997
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 8: Well today I'm going by Crown.

998
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 3: Yours, so trying to screw the Alex up.

999
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 8: All right, repeat it one more time for me.

1000
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:47,959
Speaker 5: New Orleans is favored by two and a half.

1001
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 8: Hurry, okay, yeah, I'll take Philly.

1002
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 6: I'm taking clink koobiak and the Saints just lighting it

1003
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 6: up on the scoreboard, Saints Saints.

1004
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna take Philly to win out right. But

1005
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 5: the Saints offensive start worries me against that defense, which

1006
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 5: looked really, really shaky. But I'm gonna take Philly to

1007
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 5: bounce back. I think they're better, but yeah, I'm not

1008
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 5: sure they are.

1009
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 2: I agree Philly's gonna have a roller coaster season. This

1010
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 2: is they'll bounce back and they'll win this one. One

1011
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 2: o'clock on CBS. Yeah, he's he's got some making up

1012
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 2: to do. One o'clock on CBS, The two and oh

1013
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 2: Chargers at the two and oh Steelers.

1014
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 5: Steelers by one and a half.

1015
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 3: Jeez, Steelers. Do you guys see Harbaugh like pumping up

1016
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 3: the Steelers. It's kind of funny. He's a character man.

1017
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 3: He's a little weird, like he's a lot weird.

1018
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not a little weird.

1019
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 3: It's a long spectrum, a little bit like just I

1020
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 3: don't know, but I like him.

1021
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 5: I like you can say that it's the vibe I got.

1022
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna take the Chargers on the road on

1023
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 3: a big upset. I like what he had to say.

1024
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 3: I believe in him.

1025
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 8: I am too. I'm drinking the kool aid.

1026
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 6: I'm not drinking the kool aid. And I think both

1027
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 6: these teams play football against nineteen fifty but.

1028
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 5: Could not more.

1029
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 6: I'm going I'm going with the Chargers though, just because

1030
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 6: I think they have the better quarterback.

1031
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think I'm gonna take the Chargers as well.

1032
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 5: I think this would be one of those like Pittsburgh

1033
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 5: the last couple of years has been in a pattern

1034
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 5: where no one expects anything out of them. They win

1035
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,439
Speaker 5: a couple of games, people get excited, then they lose

1036
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 5: inexplicably at home to teams that they feel the Patriots. Yeah,

1037
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 5: you know, that would be a perfect example. I think

1038
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,919
Speaker 5: the Chargers are a little better. I like Evan's point

1039
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 5: about the quarterback. I'll take the Chargers me too. I'm

1040
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 5: taking the Charges as well. I'm surprised.

1041
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 2: All right, one o'clock Fox, the oh and two Broncos

1042
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 2: are at the two and zero Buccaneers.

1043
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 5: The Baker Mayfields by six and a half.

1044
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 3: Definitely gonna take Tampa in this one. Just a question

1045
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 3: of if it's close or not.

1046
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1047
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 3: I just wonder with Sean what's his face? The coach now, Peyton.

1048
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 5: Sean, what's his face? That's the kind of analysis you

1049
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 5: can get only on Patriots.

1050
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 8: Sean what's his name?

1051
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,439
Speaker 3: Play played Tampa a lot, so familiar with the team,

1052
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,240
Speaker 3: the area, but I don't think it's in the area.

1053
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 5: You knows what Mon's venus is.

1054
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 6: I mean, you know what, I'm gonna dinner spot the

1055
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 6: night before.

1056
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 5: The bakes Tampa.

1057
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 8: Baker Bakes, Tampa wins, and I'll give done for the points.

1058
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 6: This is a dad survivor Pool picked this week. He's

1059
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 6: too and oh his friends are starting to ask questions

1060
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 6: about who's actually making the picks. And I am taking

1061
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 6: Tampa both ways because I think Todd Bowles against bow

1062
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 6: Nicks is gonna have a field day.

1063
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,959
Speaker 5: Yeah. I thought about taking the points like Alex did,

1064
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 5: but I think you know they got They're gonna get hot,

1065
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 5: you know, and then they're gonna fall behind and he's

1066
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 5: gonna make more mistakes. So I'm gonna lay the points

1067
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 5: Tampa both ways, so you'll lay in the point. Correct,

1068
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 5: that's what I said. I'm gonna lay the points Tampa

1069
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 5: both ways. It's exactly what I just said.

1070
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 2: So so Tampa will win by more than six.

1071
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 5: Yes, that's Tampa both ways. Would indicate that Tampa will

1072
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 5: win more than the spread.

1073
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 2: Buccaneers win, but I'm gonna take the points, which means

1074
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 2: they're not going to win.

1075
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 5: Everybody besides you knows them. Okay, that's what it means.

1076
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:19,439
Speaker 2: All right, Baker Banks Sunday at one on Fox, the

1077
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 2: one and one Packers are at the zero to two Titans.

1078
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 5: Uh, Titans by three.

1079
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 3: I didn't catch any of this game Green Bay Games.

1080
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 5: So you guys follow this stuff probably a little bit

1081
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 5: more closely. Like Jordan Love was legitimately a possibility last week,

1082
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,240
Speaker 5: he was, but not really.

1083
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, so this is tennes This would be the

1084
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 3: Milik Willis revenge game, right, that would be, but it's

1085
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 3: not because I'm gonna take I don't even know why

1086
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 3: we'll we'll Levi's I'm gonna take will Levi's at home. Uh,

1087
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 3: stop throwing dumb picks, fumose mistakes.

1088
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 5: How about you here, Brian Callaghan.

1089
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 6: I loved it.

1090
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 5: What are you doing?

1091
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 2: Oh that one?

1092
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 6: What the effort you do?

1093
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 5: But then they asked them about it after he made

1094
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 5: the same mistake that he made last week. We talked

1095
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 5: about it.

1096
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 3: He did the same exactly like I love it, air repeater.

1097
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 3: Why am I taking Tennessee? I don't know. Give me Tennessee.

1098
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 8: I love getting like a really bad lip reading f

1099
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 8: bomb on national television. Tennessee gets their first one at home.

1100
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 6: So will Levis make some of the worst turner of

1101
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 6: us in the league. And they also had a block

1102
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 6: punt in that game too. That both games. Yeah, that

1103
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 6: kept the Jets, you know, in that game, and let

1104
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 6: Rogers do his thing. I'm taking the Packers. They they

1105
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 6: did exactly what I expected him to do with Malik,

1106
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 6: just manage the game. Run the ball. They think they

1107
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 6: ran for two hundred and sixty yards against Indy. I

1108
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 6: think they do it again.

1109
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, this will be the last one. I'm going to

1110
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 5: give you one more chance. I'm going to take Tennessee.

1111
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 5: This would be the last time. I doubt Green Bay

1112
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 5: without the quarterback. Maybe the quarterback is meaningless. We'll see

1113
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 5: you can do it again.

1114
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the Packers. I think they're gonna

1115
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 2: come back and win this game. Titans are not a

1116
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 2: good team. Four oh five. We're gonna move to the

1117
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 2: afternoon games, late afternoon games, but first. As easy as

1118
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 2: that transition is, so is bud Light. It's easy to drink,

1119
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,439
Speaker 2: it's easy to enjoy. Bud Light is the official beer

1120
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 2: sponsor of the New England Patriots. And we got a

1121
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 2: new read for Bob's I'm very excited. Are you getting

1122
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 2: ready for a marathon game day watch party? Make sure

1123
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 2: you're well rested with a brand new mattress from Bob's

1124
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 2: Discount Furniture, So I guess you're gonna be doing this

1125
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 2: watch party in your bed. But anyway, when you dare

1126
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 2: to compare Bob's top rated signature mattresses, cutting edge Bobbo

1127
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 2: pedic technology, and every day low prices, and I'm talking

1128
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 2: about over one thousand dollars less than the competition, you

1129
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 2: can sleep well knowing that you've snagged a winning combination

1130
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 2: of top of the line feature in unbeatable values. So

1131
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 2: stop in and see how much you can save when

1132
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,760
Speaker 2: you dare to compare with Bob's Discount Furniture, the official

1133
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 2: furniture store of the New England Patriots. All right, so

1134
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 2: four or five on CBS, the oh to two Panthers

1135
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 2: are at the one and one Raiders.

1136
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 6: How about them Raiders?

1137
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:20,919
Speaker 5: Raiders by five and a half.

1138
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm taking the Raiders on this one. I feel

1139
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,760
Speaker 3: like this is a bad matchup. Carolina stinks, Andy Dalton,

1140
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 3: are we.

1141
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 2: All taking the Rugbie party?

1142
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 5: I'm taking Carolina.

1143
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, give me give me Vegas.

1144
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:38,760
Speaker 2: All right, so you're taking Vegas evan plane to catch

1145
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 2: yeah kind.

1146
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 6: Of Raiders Raiders. I'll stop giving my spiel.

1147
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,280
Speaker 5: I am gonna take the Panthers because I don't trust

1148
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 5: the Raiders and bry is not playing. Yeah, I'm gonna

1149
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 5: take the upset on the Wow.

1150
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 2: Okay, good that he's trying to make up grounded moves.

1151
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,720
Speaker 2: That's a ball nowhere moves. Now I'll take the Raiders

1152
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 2: as well. Both ways, Four or five CBS, one in

1153
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 2: one Dolphins at the two and oh Seahawks.

1154
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:06,439
Speaker 5: Seattle by four and a half.

1155
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 6: Skylett Thompson, who.

1156
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's tough. I always like Seattle at home.

1157
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 3: Uh Gino. Smith played amazing last week. Can he do

1158
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 3: it again? Is it sustainable? I'm not sure, but I'm

1159
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 3: gonna take Seattle. I'll take them at home. Just give

1160
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 3: them the quick change for Miami this week.

1161
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:25,720
Speaker 8: Seattle Seattle.

1162
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm taking Seattle both ways. That seat on Mike

1163
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 6: McDaniel's getting a little toasty.

1164
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 5: Just signed a huge extension, so I think he's fine

1165
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 5: with that. I'm gonna take Seattle to win, but I

1166
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 5: will take the points.

1167
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I'm gonna take Seattle both ways. Four to

1168
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 2: twenty five on Fox, the one in one Lions at

1169
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,919
Speaker 2: the one in one Cardinals. What did I say about

1170
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 2: the Cardinals offense last week? The del Rio They said

1171
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 2: they'll be top five?

1172
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:54,919
Speaker 3: Oh okay, they look good.

1173
00:54:55,120 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 5: Are scoring points, Marves Marve Detroit by two and a half, Detroit.

1174
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 3: It's a good game. It's a good afternoon watcher. I

1175
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 3: just I can't believe. I can't buy in just yet

1176
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 3: to Kyler Murray and we lookedreat last week. But I'm

1177
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 3: gonna take Detoys on the road. I'll lay the points.

1178
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 8: Kyler has been making me eat my words, so I'm

1179
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,879
Speaker 8: gonna pick Detroit to win, but I'm in. I think

1180
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 8: it's a close game. I think Arizona's frisky.

1181
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 6: I'm taking the Cardinals in this game. I just don't

1182
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 6: really like some of the coaching I'm seeing from the

1183
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 6: Lions and Drew pettsing learned the name Cardinals offensive coordinator

1184
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 6: good at his job, type dance.

1185
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 5: He is a type Pans guy. I'm gonna take the

1186
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 5: Lions to bounce back. I agree with Evan though they

1187
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 5: run the ball too much. They got to stop that.

1188
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 5: It's keeping the points down. Lions both ways though.

1189
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,760
Speaker 2: Taking the Cardinals. Taking the Cardinals.

1190
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 6: See Dan Campbell like crying at the postgame press conference

1191
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 6: because he messed up.

1192
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 10: In the half.

1193
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 5: He cost his team again. Yeah, so I don't blame him,

1194
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 5: but tell me he's a meathead. What are you gonna do?

1195
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 2: On Fox? Almost Ravens are at the one in one Cowboys.

1196
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 5: Okay, So this was the spread that kind of raised

1197
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 5: my eyebrows the most this week. Baltimore by one and

1198
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 5: a half.

1199
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 2: I'm not surprised.

1200
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 3: I am a little bit two at Dallas.

1201
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 5: That was one of the best home teams in the league,

1202
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 5: even though they lost last week.

1203
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 3: You do your little rant on Dallas? What is it

1204
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,919
Speaker 3: this week? Last week you nailed Dallas, although you didn't

1205
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:25,919
Speaker 3: pick Dallas.

1206
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 5: Because I was so don't be me.

1207
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 3: I know this week, what would happen? What would Dallas

1208
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 3: do this week? Share your kid a second, I'm going Dallas, Dallas.

1209
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 5: I don't have a theory this week plus one point

1210
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 5: plus one and a half.

1211
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 8: I'm going to take a Baltimore bounce back, and so

1212
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 8: I will give them the points because there's not money.

1213
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 6: I just can't imagine the Ravens starting going three.

1214
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 5: It's just so hard behind this pick.

1215
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,360
Speaker 6: It's my only logic too, because I'm a Paul at

1216
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 6: Dallas at home is usually a monster.

1217
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 5: I just they're too good off a loss. They're too

1218
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 5: good to be oh and three. Yeah, And for that reason,

1219
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 5: I'm taking the Ravens. I can't imagine the desperation right

1220
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 5: now in that building. I agree, I will take them,

1221
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 5: but that's what funny spread to me.

1222
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 2: I can't imagine them on and three all right, four

1223
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 2: to twenty five on Fox, the one on one forty

1224
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 2: nine ers are at the oh and two Rams.

1225
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 5: You can sign seal deliver the Rams season. I talk

1226
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 5: about just self destruction before you even get started. The

1227
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 5: whole team is out, like for an extended period of time,

1228
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 5: to the point where on ESPN they were talking about

1229
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 5: trading staffords to the Raiders. Did you hear that? Yes,

1230
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 5: mean the Times, and like I first heard it and

1231
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 5: I was like, that's what And then I was like,

1232
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 5: you know what. She convinced me. She's got the Rams.

1233
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 5: You know, no receivers, no offensive lineman other than that,

1234
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 5: you know, they have an old quarterback who can't move anymore.

1235
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 3: That was the play.

1236
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, San Francisco seven point faces on the road.

1237
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 6: This is hospital San Francisco too, though, Like both teams

1238
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 6: are just decimated.

1239
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's why I'm gonna take San Francisco to win.

1240
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna I'm gonna take those points for the Rams.

1241
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 3: I just think it'll be a little close to them.

1242
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 5: And San Francisco owns the Rams.

1243
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there we go.

1244
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 5: I like where it is, you know, I like to

1245
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 5: give you my little uh who owns my NFC West

1246
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 5: Trends Niners, Niners.

1247
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 6: I'm taking the forty nine ers per usual, but I

1248
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 6: will take the Rams to cover because both these teams

1249
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 6: are banged up. So I just don't know.

1250
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna take the Niners both ways. I don't

1251
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 5: think the Rams have any ability to put any points

1252
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 5: in the board without what six starters on offense?

1253
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sturty with Purty forty nine ers both ways. All right,

1254
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 2: Now we move to eight twenty Sunday Night on NBC

1255
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 2: and Universo the two and zero Chiefs are at the

1256
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 2: one and one.

1257
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 5: Falcon City in primetime.

1258
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 6: You never see that way too much Atlanta in primetime,

1259
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 6: Like I don't need to see the Falcons, Like, can

1260
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 6: they prove something before we send all of them?

1261
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 8: It was so fun at the end, it was I enjoyed.

1262
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 5: That Fred just ran out of the room. Kansas City

1263
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 5: by three and a half.

1264
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 3: Do I have to slow play this one?

1265
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 7: Was?

1266
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 5: No? No later, because I catch it.

1267
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 3: I'll get it in post because I'm I'm going Kansas City.

1268
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:20,439
Speaker 3: That's my rule until further notice, always taking Kansas City.

1269
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 8: Until they burned me, Chiefs.

1270
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 6: Chiefs, until they stopped getting all the calls. I'm going

1271
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 6: to go to the chiefs Chiefs.

1272
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 5: So okay, I just ask it just and this is

1273
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 5: a serious question. No, no, no, no, no, because I'm conducting the poll,

1274
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 5: because I had I had a conversation with someone about this. No, no, no,

1275
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 5: there's one play I want to I want to know

1276
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 5: your opinion. I don't care about any of the other plays.

1277
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 5: I have another rant on on something else, but I'll

1278
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 5: say it for another time. The fourth and sixteen passing appearance.

1279
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 5: Do you think that was a good call or a

1280
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 5: bad call?

1281
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 6: Correct call by the rule?

1282
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 5: Okay, that's all I need time at all. I had

1283
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 5: someone tell me it was a terrible call. There was

1284
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 5: no contact. Right, the defensive back has the right to

1285
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 5: the ball. I would I said, I can no longer

1286
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 5: be part of this conversation, and we did not argue

1287
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 5: about it for one second.

1288
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 6: I would.

1289
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 5: With the game on the line, I would argue I

1290
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 5: would rather that the moron for Cincinnati just say I

1291
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 5: don't need to do this. It's fourth and sixteen. I'm

1292
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 5: going to make sure that I knocked the ball down

1293
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 5: instead of trying to take the guy's head off. That's

1294
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 5: what I would rather have. But that's me so Kansas

1295
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 5: City both ways. Yes, I'm going to take Kansas City.

1296
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 5: But Kansas City tends to lay some eggs in spots

1297
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 5: that you don't expect them to. I think this is

1298
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 5: a tougher game than people think. I'll take the points.

1299
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 5: I think the Falcons are frisky, though they've shown a

1300
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 5: little bit. Kansas City by three and a half.

1301
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 2: Kansas City both ways. Okay, yep, sorry.

1302
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 5: About my good job slow playing that you got you

1303
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 5: got Freddy back in the sea.

1304
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 2: Drank the whole thing a Gatorade.

1305
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys are running out.

1306
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 2: I drank a whole thing at Gatorade and with my prostate,

1307
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 2: it was in me and it had to come out.

1308
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 5: I had that earlier.

1309
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 6: I was worried. Honestly, I'm glad it's all.

1310
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 2: Okay, No, we're good. Monday Nights, Monday Night doubleheader on

1311
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 2: Monday Night. I love the first ones at seven thirty

1312
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 2: on ESPN and ESPN Deportes, the oh and two Jaguars

1313
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 2: are at the two and oher Bills.

1314
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 5: Buffalo by five. I just hate that it's in a

1315
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 5: week that it's a red zone Sunday. You know you're

1316
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 5: taking the game away from me. But Buffalo by five.

1317
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I doubted Buffalo last week against Miami. Sorry, guys,

1318
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 3: I'm an idiot for that one. I'm going back with Buffalo.

1319
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 3: Josh Allen look really good.

1320
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 5: MVP Buffalo Buffalo.

1321
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:43,919
Speaker 6: I'm going Buffalo both ways. My Josh Allen m VP

1322
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:46,919
Speaker 6: pick is looking fantastic right now. Did you put money

1323
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 6: on that might be the best quarterback in the league. Sorry,

1324
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 6: argue with you, mama.

1325
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take Buffalo to win. I'm gonna take the points.

1326
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 5: Jacksonville tends to play Buffalo tough. They've beaten him. I

1327
01:01:58,040 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 5: know in London they.

1328
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 6: Beat him Atuple years ago, like nine to six or something.

1329
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 5: So we'll see if they and they beat him definitely

1330
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 5: in Jacksonville. Yeah, yeah, So I'm going to see if

1331
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 5: they can keep it close in Buffalo.

1332
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 2: The window was closing in Buffalo. But there go three

1333
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 2: and oh they win both ways.

1334
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 5: Which is not contradictory at all.

1335
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 2: Eight point fifteen on ABC and ESPN plus the one

1336
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 2: and one Commanders are at the oh to two.

1337
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 5: Bengals Cincintanti by seven and a half.

1338
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 3: It's a big number. I feel like Cincinnati is back

1339
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 3: against the wall. Let one get away last week. They've

1340
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 3: got to be sick of their stomachs about it being

1341
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 3: oh and to Jamar Chase getting in shape, maybe starting

1342
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 3: to come along. I'm not sure Hagen status is he

1343
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 3: is he knocking on the door yet not yet, doesn't matter.

1344
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 3: I'm going with Cincinnati, but I will take the points

1345
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 3: for Washington. I think it'll be a close one.

1346
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 6: You never know what the extra day, you know, I

1347
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 6: could help.

1348
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's I won't call it a must

1349
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 8: win for Cincinnati, but they really got to win and

1350
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 8: then also give oh yeah, same way as commanders that

1351
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 8: the points.

1352
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 6: I'm going Cincinnati both ways. I think they get right.

1353
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 6: But I do think Jayden Daniels looks well, looks good

1354
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 6: and like put some highlights out there. But like Cincinnati, Yeah,

1355
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 6: I am with Evan.

1356
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 5: I think it is kind of a must win for Cincinnati,

1357
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 5: and I think they blow doors off. I don't think

1358
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 5: Washington's looked very good.

1359
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you got a pissed off Burrow. You know,

1360
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 2: as much as that pass interference call hurt them, so

1361
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 2: did his fumble. So he's got some making up to do,

1362
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 2: like what's his name Barkley does for the Giants. So

1363
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 2: I'm going with the Bengals both ways. Now we go

1364
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 2: back to Thursday night, all the way back to Thursday

1365
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 2: night on Prime Video. The one and one Patriots are

1366
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 2: at the one and one Jets for their home opener.

1367
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 5: Jets by six and a half.

1368
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I think it's a tough spot for

1369
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 3: the Pats. I you know, losing Bentley sure doesn't help.

1370
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 3: I think that they'll try to push the ball down

1371
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 3: the field. I just I don't have confidence that they're

1372
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 3: going to be able to do it. I think it'll

1373
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 3: be a close game they'll like these Thursday night divisional

1374
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 3: games usually are, except for last week when Miami got

1375
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 3: their doors blown off. But I'm going to go Jets

1376
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 3: for the win. I'll take the Patriots plus six point five.

1377
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 3: To keep it close, I'll say Jets twenty one to sixteen.

1378
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 8: I'm taking the Jets both ways, twenty four fourteen.

1379
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 6: I'm going to take the Jets, but low scoring, close

1380
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 6: game rock Fight Style sixteen thirteen New York. But I

1381
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 6: actually don't mind the Patriots in this game. I'm not

1382
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 6: one hundred percent sure Rogers is Rogers of old, and

1383
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 6: I don't hate the spot for the Patriots. But what

1384
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 6: I don't like is the short week and then the travel.

1385
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 6: You just lose so much time as the road team

1386
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 6: on these Thursday night games that I do worry about that.

1387
01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I see it a lot like Mike and Evan do.

1388
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 5: I have the Jets winning the game. I'm going to

1389
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 5: keep the Patriots within the spread twenty to sixteen. If

1390
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 5: if there was a little bit more that I've seen

1391
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 5: from Rogers, I probably would would lay the points. But

1392
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 5: I just I don't think the Jets offense has been

1393
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 5: anything special. Patriots the offense obviously hasn't been anything special.

1394
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 5: So someone once told me, if you see a trend,

1395
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 5: you should stick to the trend, And we've seen a

1396
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 5: pattern of the way the Patriots games have unfolded, and

1397
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 5: I think it'll be similar.

1398
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just mar you know, I'm saying Jets twenty seventeen.

1399
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 2: But even then, I'm a little worried that the Patriots

1400
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 2: can even muster seventeen. I think, you know, we haven't

1401
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 2: seen anything from this offense yet that can kind of

1402
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 2: gives you hope that they're going to break out. This

1403
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 2: isn't going to be the game if they ever do.

1404
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 2: With Jacobe in there. I also think that this is

1405
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 2: the first short week for this regime, and I think

1406
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 2: it makes a difference having that short week with the

1407
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 2: new coaching staff and everything kind of is a little

1408
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 2: bit more disruptive than it would have been otherwise. So

1409
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 2: you add up those things and look, I think the

1410
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 2: Patriot are gonna do well to keep it close. Let's

1411
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 2: put it that way, all right. So that's the picks

1412
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 2: for this week. See if we can do better than

1413
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 2: last week. Evan and I are gonna call it a

1414
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 2: day as far as the show goes, we're gonna head

1415
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 2: over to the bus. Alex Paul Induce will bring you

1416
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 2: through the rest of the show. So right now we'll

1417
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 2: take a break and when we come back, you'll be

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Speaker 12: my plan. These deals won't last. It's your Verizon. When

1441
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 12: someone accidentally threw away the school play.

1442
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 8: Costumes, oh no.

1443
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 13: Replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery.

1444
01:07:56,800 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 13: Everyone could focus on the perfect opening night. Where now

1445
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 13: mean's next for residential delivery?

1446
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 2: Only? What's it like?

1447
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 4: This called the process of basically like doing heavy walkthrough

1448
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 4: and mental rep.

1449
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 14: Yeah no, it's not my first time doing this, but uh,

1450
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 14: you know a lot of excitement going into Thursday night

1451
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 14: game quick turn around. You know all the players energies up, coaches,

1452
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 14: player energies up, so uh you know, we're excited for

1453
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 14: this opportunity. That's it.

1454
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 4: Is it hard to make.

1455
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 14: Corrections during the week, I wouldn't say hard. I mean

1456
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 14: it's just part of the NFL. You know, obviously you

1457
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:35,839
Speaker 14: keep back that up a little bit. Obviously, you uh,

1458
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 14: you know, you can't get all of the reps that

1459
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 14: you probably will want. But I think you get to

1460
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 14: walk through reps and you kind of you know, talk

1461
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 14: through a lot of things that happened throughout the game

1462
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:46,640
Speaker 14: and you know, things that we are trying to do

1463
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 14: this game. So I think it's a little bit.

1464
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:52,679
Speaker 9: Sure of both said yesterday, I believe that you guys

1465
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 9: really need to fully some pushing the ball down the

1466
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 9: field as an offense. Do you feel confident that there's

1467
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 9: gonna be something different that you're able to do as

1468
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:02,560
Speaker 9: an offense in this game against THEE.

1469
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, uh, yeah, that's the plan, you know,

1470
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 14: you know, trying to get more guys involved, for sure,

1471
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 14: But yeah, how much more.

1472
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 4: Are you able to expand the playbook with such a

1473
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 4: short week to work with a game plan?

1474
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 5: I don't think it's that hard.

1475
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 14: I think we got stuff in that that can accomplish

1476
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 14: all of those goals. So I don't think it's that hard.

1477
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 15: You're literally being a former player as your coach. The

1478
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 15: schedule with a six o'clock practice given, you guys do

1479
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 15: the rest.

1480
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 3: That was.

1481
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 4: Experience.

1482
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:35,640
Speaker 14: I think one year, I think my rookie year, we

1483
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 14: kind of practiced at a later time, uh my first

1484
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 14: game starting action that I recall it. But I think

1485
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 14: that was the only time. And then other times it

1486
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 14: was kind of more rest on the front end, but

1487
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 14: on the back end. But I like it. I mean

1488
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 14: kind of you're out here when you're probably warming up

1489
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 14: right now for the game.

1490
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 3: Right.

1491
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 15: So there's been some movie parts and to line and

1492
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:57,679
Speaker 15: we're caught some voment spots on Sunday. Do you ever

1493
01:09:57,720 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 15: get concerned with the volume you.

1494
01:09:58,920 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 16: Getting hit at?

1495
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 5: Nah?

1496
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 14: Man, I'm I'm big enough.

1497
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 5: I could take it.

1498
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 14: I'm a girl, man, I can take couple of hits.

1499
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 3: You've seen the most grow just in the first two

1500
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 3: weeks of the season.

1501
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 14: If you guys head into this game, yeah, you know,

1502
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:13,600
Speaker 14: I think you know, obviously our run game is is

1503
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 14: getting better, uh, each and every week from week one

1504
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 14: to week two. You know, they did a lot of

1505
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 14: things to try to stop the run, and we still

1506
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 14: were able to execute that. Uh, you know, Hunter obviously

1507
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 14: had a big day Sunday, and but obviously we're still

1508
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 14: trying to learn our identity, stills trying to get better

1509
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 14: and get more guys involved, for sure, And uh, you know,

1510
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 14: I think we're excited about this opportunity to do that.

1511
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 4: You guys have one trip to the primetime stage so

1512
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:37,520
Speaker 4: far this year or something. How special is that opportunity?

1513
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 2: How big is it?

1514
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1515
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:38,639
Speaker 14: It's cool.

1516
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 1: Man.

1517
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 14: As a kid, you know, you dream of these moments

1518
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 14: playing on Thursday night, Monday night and Sunday night, and

1519
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:44,600
Speaker 14: this is our opportunity to you know, to make the

1520
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 14: most of it. So I feel everybody's excited about that. Quicker, Well,

1521
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:58,600
Speaker 14: she's just asked the Yeah, never mind, but let me

1522
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 14: hot this before y'all take. But uh uh it's a

1523
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 14: mixture of a lot of different things.

1524
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 15: So yeah, is there more of an emphasis of getting

1525
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 15: certain guys involved this week?

1526
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 14: Uh? Of course, we want to get everybody involved, you know.

1527
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 14: So I think that's the plan, is to try to

1528
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:18,599
Speaker 14: spread the wealth for a little bit more this week.

1529
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 15: People three catches by receivers and probably not kind of

1530
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:24,639
Speaker 15: sustainable offense and years you're.

1531
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 3: Looking for it.

1532
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:26,639
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, but we're two plays away from winning

1533
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 14: the game and then everybody's like, oh, it was a

1534
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 14: great hunter, had a great day, growing the game was

1535
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:31,720
Speaker 14: good and all of this and this, that and the

1536
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:33,679
Speaker 14: third But yeah, obviously we want to get more players involved.

1537
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 14: We want we want to spread the well for sure.

1538
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:38,640
Speaker 14: But yeah, so this game is the opportunity to do that.

1539
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:39,280
Speaker 4: Player.

1540
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 9: You guys really got Antonio Gibson involved in the second

1541
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 9: half of that game in Seattle.

1542
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 4: What kind of different rink gold does he add to

1543
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 4: your running game?

1544
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:47,799
Speaker 10: There's so much focused on Ramondre.

1545
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean he was explosive. He made a lot

1546
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 14: of good plays with the ball in his hand and

1547
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 14: definitely adds another element to this offensive with the ability

1548
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:57,760
Speaker 14: that he's that he has in the run game in

1549
01:11:57,760 --> 01:11:59,599
Speaker 14: the past game. So you know, excited to get him going.

1550
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 4: The scouting report on the Jets defense.

1551
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 14: Uh, you know defense that's been been in this defense

1552
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 14: for for a long time. A lot of good players,

1553
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 14: you know coach really well. You know, play fast, play hard,

1554
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 14: physical defense. So you know, we got a good test

1555
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 14: for us, but I think we'll be up for it.

1556
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 4: Does the competitor and you love these kind of opporunities

1557
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 4: of just going head to head. Well obviously not got

1558
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 4: face Aaron Rodgers yourself. So I mean, like just battle

1559
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 4: the quarterbacks like that.

1560
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 14: Yeah, I don't. I don't get into that that type

1561
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 14: of type of match. I just go out there and

1562
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 14: just try to plague football a pup.

1563
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:31,800
Speaker 5: Douglas expressed some frustrations when the other day about I'm

1564
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 5: not getting targeted.

1565
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 4: Do you talk with him at all?

1566
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 5: You know after just as a veteran you you know,

1567
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 5: take the young guys.

1568
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 14: Yeah, of course, I mean I'm the quarterback, you know,

1569
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 14: I gotta talk to him for sure. But I mean

1570
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:42,840
Speaker 14: it's a good thing that he's frustrated. You know, you

1571
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 14: want players that want the ball. Uh, it would be

1572
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 14: a crime if he didn't, you know, So I was

1573
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 14: I understood his frustration. Uh, but yeah, how.

1574
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 4: Big of a blow is this the team? If if

1575
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 4: Juwan isn't able to go through the rest of the season.

1576
01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 14: Yeah, it's tough, man. He's he's he's one of our

1577
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 14: leaders for sure.

1578
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:01,559
Speaker 10: Uh.

1579
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 14: You know all of us are pulling for him, and

1580
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 14: you know he's a big part of his team and

1581
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:08,480
Speaker 14: you know he he still will be no matter his circumstances.

1582
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 14: I'm not sure on his his health and stuff like that.

1583
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 14: I don't speak on other people like that, but uh,

1584
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 14: you know, it's tough to see him go out of

1585
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 14: the game. You know, I know how much he means

1586
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 14: to not on his team, but to this defense. And

1587
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 14: you know it's now it's just a matter of the

1588
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 14: next guy stepping up to help him out as a quarterback.

1589
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 15: What is the respect level for the Jets defense and

1590
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 15: and some of the playmakers they have there in the back.

1591
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 14: End the utmost you know, those those guys are you know,

1592
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 14: Pro Bowls and All Pros for a reason. Uh you know,

1593
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 14: they're playing league football at a very high level. So,

1594
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 14: like I said, we we uh you know, we got

1595
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 14: a good test up Thursday, but we'll be up for.

1596
01:13:59,360 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

1597
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:03,519
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Speaker 6: And now great moments in.

1608
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:35,519
Speaker 2: History.

1609
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 5: I watched the post game. You know a little bit

1610
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:41,320
Speaker 5: thought they thought the network struggled, Yes, in that regard.

1611
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 16: Yeah, the trophy presentation left a little bit to be desired.

1612
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, which gets that was unfortunate. But I watched some

1613
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 5: of that, and then you know, some of the interviews,

1614
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 5: you know, all the players kind of heard from each

1615
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:56,680
Speaker 5: of the you know, the the six main players. And

1616
01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:59,639
Speaker 5: then I was like, okay, I sorry enough, and these

1617
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:02,760
Speaker 5: two were on Twitter, get it out.

1618
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 16: I'll tell you something a little embarrassing. I had on, Yes,

1619
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:09,599
Speaker 16: I promise it's worse. I had on like a clay

1620
01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:12,559
Speaker 16: face mask, you know, doing your skincare night. You know,

1621
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 16: it's a girl thing.

1622
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 8: But I started tearing up a little bit with the

1623
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:22,919
Speaker 8: Douce stuff, like a little moment, little little Deuce Tatum,

1624
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 8: I don't know, just like and then hearing people talk

1625
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 8: about like Tommy, I don't know, I'm emotional. It might

1626
01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 8: be that time of love.

1627
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 3: But whatever, that's another great moment. All right, We're back

1628
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 3: here on Patriots unfiltered with the three non travelers. We

1629
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 3: don't travel with the specials. No, we don't get to

1630
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 3: ride on the plane or get any of the perks

1631
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 3: that come with that. But that's all right. That's how

1632
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:48,799
Speaker 3: I like it, right, you like traveling, you miss.

1633
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 13: It at all?

1634
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 8: I like traveling to Miami.

1635
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 5: So I miss Saturday night on the road. That's it.

1636
01:15:57,520 --> 01:15:59,720
Speaker 5: I don't miss anything else about traveling, do you. Guys

1637
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 5: you said we used to go out on Saturday nights

1638
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 5: on the road.

1639
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, food, some dinner, some drinks.

1640
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 5: See, when you're a little like you just mentioned Miami,

1641
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:14,679
Speaker 5: so you you go out and you're young enough, you're out,

1642
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 5: you're hitting the town, and you do you know, I

1643
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 5: got to a place in my life where that stuff

1644
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 5: was no longer all that interesting to me. So it

1645
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:25,759
Speaker 5: was Wick and Andy Hart, Paul Parolo at Fred Kirst,

1646
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:29,639
Speaker 5: get some buffalo wings, nice dinner, some mill of lights,

1647
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:34,599
Speaker 5: and be back in bed by ten o'clock. Oh, guys,

1648
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 5: let's give it up.

1649
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 8: We're a lot more alike than you realize.

1650
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:40,040
Speaker 3: Well that's how lazare is. And Lazar isn't that. I mean,

1651
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 3: he's younger than us. But he said the same thing

1652
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:44,120
Speaker 3: because there's a big crew of you know, the socials,

1653
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 3: and everybody wants to go out. And Evan's already like, so.

1654
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 5: If I told you all the years that we went

1655
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:51,680
Speaker 5: to Jets games and Giants games, because we go to

1656
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 5: the Giants, you know, every other year in the preseason

1657
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 5: back then, never once did I go in the city

1658
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 5: with that crew. Not once.

1659
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 3: So that's that's a big ask. I wouldn't I would.

1660
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 3: I'd be afraid city.

1661
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 5: What's he be afraid to go out in the city?

1662
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 7: Just kidding?

1663
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 5: No, no, But I don't know. I don't love big

1664
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:08,840
Speaker 5: Why did you go.

1665
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:12,759
Speaker 3: Up like rural Iowa or something, rural Massachusetts but mostly

1666
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 3: maybe not.

1667
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 5: Out of Boston, I know, does that count?

1668
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 3: I don't know, because you're kind of in a city though,

1669
01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:20,480
Speaker 3: right like your Springfield.

1670
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1671
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 8: I think people's conception of western mass is ruined by

1672
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 8: the drive out to U Mass where you go through

1673
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 8: North Central mass and people think North Central Mass is

1674
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 8: the Pioneer Valiant.

1675
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:34,679
Speaker 5: There's nothing we know this, there's nothing there.

1676
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:37,720
Speaker 8: Pineer Valley ain't that bad. It's pretty cool that the

1677
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:38,839
Speaker 8: Berkshires lovely.

1678
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:40,840
Speaker 2: I think you should work.

1679
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:42,719
Speaker 5: For the Chamber of Commerce. It's it's not It ain't

1680
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 5: that bad.

1681
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:48,599
Speaker 8: Hey, what are they paying this big interest, big biggie

1682
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 8: going on?

1683
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1684
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 3: We're looking for something to do this weekend, so that

1685
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 3: was on the table.

1686
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 2: Maybe that.

1687
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 8: Don't go on a Saturday or Sunday. I live near

1688
01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:00,240
Speaker 8: the biggie. I can't leave my house. It once took

1689
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 8: me two hours just I was less than a mouth.

1690
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:03,760
Speaker 5: I've never heard of it.

1691
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 3: I've never even heard of it until a couple of

1692
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 3: days ago. I guess that's an Eastern mass thing for us.

1693
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 3: I don't know. Yeah, I never never heard of it, though.

1694
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 5: What is the about?

1695
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 8: It's like the big Massachusetts State Fair. There's concerts. It

1696
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:18,759
Speaker 8: goes on for like my first concert. Fun fact, Jessica

1697
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 8: Simpson at.

1698
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:21,519
Speaker 5: The Big ee Oh, it goes on for a month.

1699
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 5: I didn't realize it.

1700
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, well it might not be an exact month, and

1701
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 8: it might be more than a month.

1702
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1703
01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 8: I was never a huge big egoer.

1704
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 5: Forget what I start about the Chamber of Commerce.

1705
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 3: But it's fun, little Massachusetts fun talk there. But guys,

1706
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:39,559
Speaker 3: there are a couple Patriots news nuggets to talk about.

1707
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 3: Maybe here while Fred and Evan get in line for

1708
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:42,639
Speaker 3: the bus.

1709
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 5: To the friend still tries to figure out the difference

1710
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:46,720
Speaker 5: of three in terms of a points for.

1711
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:48,840
Speaker 3: I think he does that on purpose. I might be wrong, maybe,

1712
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 3: but I think he's he's playing that, you know what,

1713
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 3: might might be justingenuous. I think you might be right,

1714
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:58,320
Speaker 3: maybe maybe, But to start, our friend Jalen Rager at

1715
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:00,519
Speaker 3: least yesterday from the practice squad, and I won't be

1716
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:02,560
Speaker 3: seeing him no more. To set the table, though, I

1717
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 3: thought he had a good summer, Like I honestly thought

1718
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:07,599
Speaker 3: like he was a lock, and all of a sudden

1719
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 3: Thornton kind of came on at the end. But I

1720
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:11,680
Speaker 3: still thought he was going to make the team. I mean,

1721
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 3: I thought Booty was the question mark. And you know,

1722
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:16,680
Speaker 3: I think it's obvious he wasn't happy being on the

1723
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 3: practice squad. Then he posted what was it that?

1724
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 2: What kind of car was that?

1725
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:23,639
Speaker 8: He posted a picture of a Bugatti at a trailer park?

1726
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 5: And that's you would I'm going to lean on you here, Alex.

1727
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 5: That's like a common meme.

1728
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 8: I've actually never seen that meme.

1729
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 5: I've been told it probably is. That's common.

1730
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:38,600
Speaker 8: I don't know if it's a real photo, if that

1731
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 8: was photoshop because the idea of an actual Bugatti being

1732
01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 8: in a trailer.

1733
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:43,760
Speaker 3: Party, I would assume it's really what was it like

1734
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 3: a twenty eighteen Bugatti that's got some miles on it

1735
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:47,559
Speaker 3: and had to get like a drug.

1736
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 8: You buy the Bugatti when it's at like four hundred

1737
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 8: thousand miles.

1738
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 3: The Jalen Rager Bugatti.

1739
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:54,800
Speaker 10: Right like.

1740
01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 8: And that's the thing, is he just like a great

1741
01:19:58,920 --> 01:19:59,719
Speaker 8: practice player.

1742
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:01,600
Speaker 2: And that was it?

1743
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:03,639
Speaker 3: Was he a practice player the week? The first week?

1744
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 3: Did he get that?

1745
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 5: I thought, I don't know, I don't know. I thought

1746
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 5: it was Booty. I heard, you're right, but you might

1747
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 5: be right. It might be Booty and Rager.

1748
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:14,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, he don't work here no more.

1749
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:15,920
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1750
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:20,080
Speaker 5: I so by the way, I was told that he

1751
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 5: sort of asked to be released. It wasn't cause and

1752
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 5: effect necessarily, like I expressed my discontent on Instagram and

1753
01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 5: they subsequently released me. Right, I think that's what he

1754
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:31,600
Speaker 5: kind of.

1755
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:33,280
Speaker 8: That's what I saw. Someone was like he didn't get

1756
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:35,639
Speaker 8: released because of the Instagram posts. He had already made

1757
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 8: it very clear his feelings behind the Instagram posts before

1758
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:39,880
Speaker 8: he posted it.

1759
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 9: So and the.

1760
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 5: The only thing I would say is like you're on

1761
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 5: the practice squad, you're sort of free to get signed

1762
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:50,679
Speaker 5: by anybody as it was. But I know some teams,

1763
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 5: I think try not to do that. They don't want

1764
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:56,080
Speaker 5: to poach other teams practice.

1765
01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 8: Squads, so like a courtesy thing.

1766
01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think it's a little less of that

1767
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:05,919
Speaker 5: with the expansion of the practice squad and the influx

1768
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 5: of veteran players available.

1769
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:09,760
Speaker 3: It's just the message it sends, like if teams are like,

1770
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 3: you can't make the Patriots squad, like why would you,

1771
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 3: you know, why would we want to bring you to

1772
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 3: our squad. I mean, it's kind of an indictment on him.

1773
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:21,080
Speaker 5: But and he did make the roster, remember, like initially

1774
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 5: right like a minute, and then when they claimed all

1775
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:27,800
Speaker 5: those players, they needed to release veterans and he was

1776
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 5: one of them, him, Michael Jordan.

1777
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 3: So three teams now, I think that's for him. You know,

1778
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:34,680
Speaker 3: first round pick just happens with these guys. You know,

1779
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:36,639
Speaker 3: even if we had some talent, had that kick return

1780
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:38,680
Speaker 3: last year against Buffalo, I thought that, you know, we

1781
01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 3: were talking a lot this summer about that being you know,

1782
01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:44,479
Speaker 3: maybe something in his favor. But again, I just I

1783
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 3: was still surprised generally, I thought he was one of

1784
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 3: their better players in camp, more consistent players in camp,

1785
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 3: especially on the outside.

1786
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:53,280
Speaker 5: And I do think they have yeah, And I get

1787
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 5: what your point is totally, Mike, and I you know,

1788
01:21:57,280 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 5: if they had kept him, I certainly wouldn't be pounding

1789
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 5: the table saying how could you keep him? And not

1790
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:03,720
Speaker 5: yeah X.

1791
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 3: I mean at the end of the day, though, I

1792
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:06,640
Speaker 3: think we're all the same to me, Yeah, on the

1793
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:08,880
Speaker 3: same page of at least leaning into the young guys

1794
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 3: and if you're gonna roll and choose, you know, let's

1795
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 3: give Taekwon Thornton a chance. Let's not get through this

1796
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:17,040
Speaker 3: season without knowing. Let's see what you know. Keisham BOUTI

1797
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:18,640
Speaker 3: maybe he'll get a chance at some point. But I

1798
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 3: mean it seems like now with Baker playing last week

1799
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 3: that maybe even you know, Booty's kind.

1800
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:26,639
Speaker 5: Of and someone else is going to go when Kendrick

1801
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 5: Bourne comes off pup, you know, if Slash win. But

1802
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 5: I think that's probably coming soon. I've been hearing a

1803
01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 5: lot around Halloween. I think someone's got to go, and.

1804
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 3: I think it might be a good little boost for them.

1805
01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:43,639
Speaker 3: I'm just curious what the state of the passing offense

1806
01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 3: is going to be. But I think just to get

1807
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 3: Bourne's energy back on the team and get him involved

1808
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:50,479
Speaker 3: and make him, you know a little bit, especially where

1809
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:53,000
Speaker 3: you just lost Jawan Bentley, who you know was a leader,

1810
01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 3: which that was. That's a tough blow.

1811
01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:59,599
Speaker 8: And there's just not a lot of you have Andrew's Hunter,

1812
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 8: but Kendrick's just like a leading, a leadership presence I

1813
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:05,360
Speaker 8: think they really need on offense and just a good

1814
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 8: energy guy you just want to book.

1815
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 5: I think the energy is the word that every time

1816
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:11,479
Speaker 5: I see Kendrick Boyn, that's.

1817
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:16,000
Speaker 3: The first thing and always always uh Andrew and Ellie

1818
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:18,840
Speaker 3: just chimes in. The Bogotti trailer park meme is common

1819
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 3: meme used on social media to represent talent in that situation. Unfortunately,

1820
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 3: on Ragers Carfax there's about three previous owners and it's

1821
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 3: selfish tire facts.

1822
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:32,719
Speaker 8: That's the thing. Like your first it's not like teams

1823
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 8: aren't doing their due diligence, Like we took a flyer

1824
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:37,720
Speaker 8: on him. I'm glad we did. But like your first

1825
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:39,720
Speaker 8: round pick and you're bouncing around the league like you

1826
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:41,920
Speaker 8: have like maybe been a disappointment.

1827
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it happens more than you would think.

1828
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:46,640
Speaker 5: You know, I mean, it happens at other positions more

1829
01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:48,439
Speaker 5: than you would think. You can say it out loud, Mike,

1830
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 5: for the quarterback haters out there, it happens at all

1831
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:55,760
Speaker 5: positions more than you think. But just to clarify, I

1832
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:58,720
Speaker 5: think we all knew what them what it meant. I

1833
01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:01,040
Speaker 5: just you know, it was like people have said that

1834
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:02,840
Speaker 5: that that's a very you know. I'm not up on

1835
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 5: all my memes. I'm just kidding. There's a million of them,

1836
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 5: and the ones, the only ones that I get over

1837
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:13,200
Speaker 5: and over again are all like sports related slash Patriots related,

1838
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 5: like you know, Bill orange juice in your lexicon.

1839
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:19,600
Speaker 3: I'm just getting comfortable saying the word meme, like for

1840
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:22,599
Speaker 3: the longest time, they're like that memes and meme, meme,

1841
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:26,160
Speaker 3: meme me Now it's like part of the part of

1842
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 3: the culture.

1843
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 8: Meme add it to the dictionary like ten years ago.

1844
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 5: I think gets by my I don't know. I'm not

1845
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 5: a memer although, but this is why we have like

1846
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:42,080
Speaker 5: Alex and Tamara, we have the young in our lives

1847
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 5: with the twenty to three scoreboard thing. Is that a meme?

1848
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 8: You kind of invented a meme?

1849
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:47,680
Speaker 3: It's all right. I guess. I guess I have to

1850
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 3: be able to.

1851
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 5: That's a long road to Grandma's house just to give

1852
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 5: yourself a pass back.

1853
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:53,760
Speaker 3: Probably not, but maybe.

1854
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:54,200
Speaker 10: Ah.

1855
01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 3: Let's let's read this email here from Nate from Northeastern

1856
01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 3: Pennsylvania because No Socks our friend. I sent this email

1857
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 3: during pregame social last Sunday, but Matt Smith must have

1858
01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 3: been too humble to read it. I have legitimately nothing

1859
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 3: Patriots related to discuss or ask you guys about. I

1860
01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 3: just wanted to email them to say that Maddie No

1861
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:13,800
Speaker 3: Socks has the most quintessential Boston accent. Doing great at

1862
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 3: host Matt, Go Pats. So there you got a little

1863
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 3: little positive feedback from Matt.

1864
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 5: Do you think the Boston accent comment's gonna stick? He's

1865
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:22,439
Speaker 5: gonna try to tone it down a little bit.

1866
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1867
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:29,439
Speaker 5: We love Matt Carr car Yard. He's gonna like practice.

1868
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:31,880
Speaker 3: He's more quintessential Boston in other ways, I would say

1869
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 3: than just the accent, for sure. But you know you

1870
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 3: have to watch an away game with him to fully

1871
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 3: understand that that's.

1872
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:41,240
Speaker 5: The quintessential Boston experience. I think they're gonna lose every plight.

1873
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:44,560
Speaker 8: You could have a camera on him. I think in

1874
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:47,479
Speaker 8: our little section of the office, that little hallway outside

1875
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:50,280
Speaker 8: your office where outside of Orduce and nice. It like

1876
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 8: that there could be a reality TV show.

1877
01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 5: You will do no such thing to me, by the way, you.

1878
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 8: Would be implicated. But your little powows are pretty funny.

1879
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:02,879
Speaker 3: I kind of feel this one from Johnny and Maddtown.

1880
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:05,759
Speaker 3: Just say, miss Alex and the men, I miss having offense,

1881
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 3: and I've gotta send this to you, Paul. I miss

1882
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:10,519
Speaker 3: getting excited for Sundays. I sincerely miss having a competent

1883
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 3: passing game. I'm not asking for the oh seven and

1884
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 3: waight Patriots, but can I at least get the twenty

1885
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:16,439
Speaker 3: twenty one Patriots a ten and six with Mac Jones

1886
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:18,680
Speaker 3: at a minimum? They can't feel the passing game and

1887
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 3: don't or don't want to. My question is why it's frustrating.

1888
01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:23,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I've said it before. I feel like the

1889
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 3: last three seasons, I don't know what a good passing

1890
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:28,439
Speaker 3: game looks like anymore, because it's been such a grind

1891
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:30,760
Speaker 3: for all these teams going back to twenty twenty two.

1892
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:35,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's there should be something in between, you know,

1893
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 5: those high powered offenses and what we've seen since, you know,

1894
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 5: since Brady left. They haven't had a good offense since

1895
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:46,000
Speaker 5: Brady left. And it can't just be as simple as

1896
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 5: the quarterback play isn't up to par. A lot of

1897
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:53,040
Speaker 5: other things have deteriorated around it, not the least of

1898
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 5: which is the pass protection. So now you start to wonder, well,

1899
01:26:56,120 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 5: how much was Brady responsible for the pass protection? You know,

1900
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:01,760
Speaker 5: getting the ball quit, getting the ball out quick. No

1901
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:04,120
Speaker 5: one with the pressure was coming from knowing how to

1902
01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 5: get out of bad situations pre snap, you know whatnot,

1903
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:08,320
Speaker 5: I think there's.

1904
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 8: A lot more if you're an offensive lineman too, just

1905
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:13,160
Speaker 8: like playing in front of Tom Brady, Like, yeah, what

1906
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:15,200
Speaker 8: does that make you play up to? You know what

1907
01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:17,000
Speaker 8: I mean? Like, that's a great point on you don't

1908
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:18,559
Speaker 8: want to get chewed out by Tom Brady.

1909
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:19,680
Speaker 5: Certainly it was.

1910
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 3: It's something I was thinking about last night. And I

1911
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:23,880
Speaker 3: don't mean this as a shot at the current page.

1912
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:26,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, not that anyone wants Ja Kobe to get hurt

1913
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:26,640
Speaker 8: or I.

1914
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:29,040
Speaker 3: Just I mean, well, but the feel when I was

1915
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 3: first in the locker room in twenty nineteen, and even

1916
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 3: then it's probably I mean, you could speak more to

1917
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:37,280
Speaker 3: this than I can. Like, you just felt the championship

1918
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 3: drive in that locker room, and you felt the seriousness

1919
01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:43,240
Speaker 3: of it and the impact of losses. And we've only

1920
01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:45,080
Speaker 3: seen two of these games, and you know, I haven't

1921
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:47,080
Speaker 3: seen anything bad in the locker room that makes me think, like,

1922
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:51,640
Speaker 3: but it's definitely different and you don't have that expectation.

1923
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:54,720
Speaker 3: It feels like hanging over you. I know, Brady and

1924
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 3: McGinnis talked a lot in the past about how those

1925
01:27:57,439 --> 01:27:59,640
Speaker 3: guys would all push each other to do extra you know,

1926
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:01,720
Speaker 3: are you you leave in early? It's a race to

1927
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:04,519
Speaker 3: get in early. And I just my thought is, how

1928
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 3: do you re establish that championship culture without winning a

1929
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:11,240
Speaker 3: championship where you know, Willie McGinnis seems like I always

1930
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:13,559
Speaker 3: credit him as maybe maybe kind of the thought leader

1931
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:17,880
Speaker 3: of that whole kind of establishing higher expectations of the

1932
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:21,160
Speaker 3: organization than guys might be expecting it themselves and holding

1933
01:28:21,479 --> 01:28:25,280
Speaker 3: people accountable. And it's just how do you unless you

1934
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:27,760
Speaker 3: get is it the special players? Is it a couple

1935
01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:31,439
Speaker 3: special seasons together with the same groups, and you start to,

1936
01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:34,519
Speaker 3: you know, feel like that's the way that the team

1937
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:36,920
Speaker 3: is or you know, I just I have trouble putting

1938
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:39,280
Speaker 3: my finger on it, but I definitely feel the difference

1939
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:42,400
Speaker 3: between that twenty nineteen locker room, obviously coming off a

1940
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:46,080
Speaker 3: super Bowl and you know, like Edelman, Edelman is a

1941
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:49,240
Speaker 3: guy that you just felt it, like you felt the tension,

1942
01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:52,559
Speaker 3: you felt how bad they wanted to win. And we're

1943
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:54,200
Speaker 3: all kind of in mine now of like it doesn't

1944
01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:55,720
Speaker 3: really matter how many they win this year, you know,

1945
01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:57,760
Speaker 3: And I don't want to put that on them and

1946
01:28:57,800 --> 01:28:59,840
Speaker 3: say that they don't care. They definitely do care, but

1947
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:02,559
Speaker 3: it's just a lot different and you got to get

1948
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:04,840
Speaker 3: back to that if you want to be a consistent contender.

1949
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:06,479
Speaker 3: And is it like that in Kansas City right now?

1950
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:09,680
Speaker 3: Is it guys like Chris Jones are holding everyone to

1951
01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:11,880
Speaker 3: a higher standard. And you know, like you said, Alex,

1952
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:14,160
Speaker 3: the offensive line, they come in with a rookie playing

1953
01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:16,759
Speaker 3: left tackle and he knows he's blocking for Patrick Mahomes

1954
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:18,479
Speaker 3: and he's got Joe Toney next to him. So it

1955
01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:20,800
Speaker 3: all feeds together, right like somebody we try to pin

1956
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:23,360
Speaker 3: things down to one thing, and it's always multiple things,

1957
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:25,680
Speaker 3: but that's just one that how do you get there?

1958
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:26,680
Speaker 3: How do you get back to that?

1959
01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 5: Well, you can resign so you can go back to

1960
01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 5: winning at all.

1961
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:31,799
Speaker 3: That's true.

1962
01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:35,720
Speaker 5: In all seriousness. I do wonder because I haven't been

1963
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:38,000
Speaker 5: in postgame locker rooms in a long time since we

1964
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:42,200
Speaker 5: started doing the pre and postgame shows. Obviously we come in,

1965
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:44,240
Speaker 5: we do the show immediately after the game, and I

1966
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:48,719
Speaker 5: and I would be curious to see what the environment

1967
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:53,720
Speaker 5: is like compared to what you're talking about. Have they

1968
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:55,679
Speaker 5: sort of accepted losing?

1969
01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:56,280
Speaker 11: Is it?

1970
01:29:57,240 --> 01:29:59,080
Speaker 5: You know there were times where you go, you go

1971
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:01,479
Speaker 5: in a postgame loot. Now they never lost, you know,

1972
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:04,960
Speaker 5: twelve and four was sort of the norm, right, Yeah,

1973
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:07,479
Speaker 5: so they didn't have a lot of losing locker rooms,

1974
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:11,920
Speaker 5: certainly not here. But I do wonder, like you go

1975
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:14,479
Speaker 5: in and to be, you know, like a morgue, and

1976
01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:17,080
Speaker 5: I just wonder if it's the same now or if

1977
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:19,800
Speaker 5: it's just kind of there's a resignation a little bit.

1978
01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:22,920
Speaker 3: And I wonder too if this generation of football player

1979
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:24,720
Speaker 3: cares that same way.

1980
01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:27,519
Speaker 5: So you want me to scream at the clouds? Yeah,

1981
01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:32,360
Speaker 5: old man, old man, yeah, right, But so you want

1982
01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:34,720
Speaker 5: me to do it, I can't. I can't lie like

1983
01:30:35,680 --> 01:30:37,559
Speaker 5: and I'm not telling you it's a huge deal because

1984
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:40,639
Speaker 5: I'm not that like old school this is the only

1985
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:43,280
Speaker 5: way to do it, but like I think about it

1986
01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:46,519
Speaker 5: almost every time I watch a postgame situation on the

1987
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:48,960
Speaker 5: field in all sports. By the way, this is not

1988
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:55,799
Speaker 5: a football only observation. I'm always struck with how quickly

1989
01:30:56,120 --> 01:30:59,800
Speaker 5: these guys can put a smile on their faces and

1990
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:02,080
Speaker 5: find the guys on the other team. I was watching

1991
01:31:02,120 --> 01:31:03,800
Speaker 5: the end of the Philly Atlanta game the other night.

1992
01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:06,640
Speaker 5: That was a gutting loss for the Eagles. They had

1993
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:10,200
Speaker 5: no business losing that game, and I'm sure there are

1994
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:12,560
Speaker 5: plenty of Eagles that were pissed off. I'm not this

1995
01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:15,360
Speaker 5: is what I'm saying. I'm not suggesting that you have

1996
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:18,400
Speaker 5: to go and be pouting off the field and right

1997
01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:21,000
Speaker 5: into the locker room to show quote you care. That's

1998
01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:23,839
Speaker 5: not how you show you care. But I am always

1999
01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:26,720
Speaker 5: taken aback by the smiles on the faces and the

2000
01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:30,960
Speaker 5: hugs for the opponent immediately after the game, every game,

2001
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:33,599
Speaker 5: every sport in this day and age. I don't think

2002
01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:38,000
Speaker 5: like Larry Bird and Magic Johnson loved each other. They

2003
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:40,519
Speaker 5: loved to compete against each other and beat each other.

2004
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:45,519
Speaker 5: You didn't like you didn't have that, like we're gonna

2005
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:48,679
Speaker 5: hug and you know, be all smiley after the game.

2006
01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:50,920
Speaker 5: The way they do now. And I'm not telling you

2007
01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:52,600
Speaker 5: what's wrong now, the way they do it. I'm just

2008
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:55,360
Speaker 5: telling you it's striking to me how quickly they turned

2009
01:31:55,400 --> 01:31:58,519
Speaker 5: the page. And I wonder if it means as much

2010
01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:00,599
Speaker 5: like I felt like I was pissed.

2011
01:32:00,840 --> 01:32:01,439
Speaker 3: He was pissed.

2012
01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:03,040
Speaker 5: Barrow was pissed after that game.

2013
01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:04,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, they needed it, you know.

2014
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:06,880
Speaker 5: Did you see he was pissed at Jamar Chase? Did

2015
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:10,759
Speaker 5: you see that? Yeah, like when Chase got the penalty

2016
01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:15,160
Speaker 5: for arguing with the ref for like ten minutes and Chase,

2017
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:17,120
Speaker 5: I mean, Barow must have taken him out of there

2018
01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:19,639
Speaker 5: three times and finally he turned around. He was like, enough,

2019
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:21,200
Speaker 5: what are you doing?

2020
01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:21,559
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2021
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:23,840
Speaker 8: You know, I know they're close and played in college together,

2022
01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:28,080
Speaker 8: but I really would love to hear Joe Burrow's unfiltered

2023
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:32,320
Speaker 8: thoughts about just like all this drama happening with Chase

2024
01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:35,519
Speaker 8: holding out and just not playing, Like I don't know

2025
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:38,040
Speaker 8: if if I'm on the Bengals and I'm Joe Burrow

2026
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:39,800
Speaker 8: and you're really one of those teams that's right on

2027
01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:43,479
Speaker 8: the cusp, and I see only a second year receiver

2028
01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:46,000
Speaker 8: kind of acting like that. I'm just like, what the

2029
01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:47,080
Speaker 8: what are you doing?

2030
01:32:47,160 --> 01:32:47,240
Speaker 14: Bro?

2031
01:32:47,479 --> 01:32:48,840
Speaker 5: Chase is older than that.

2032
01:32:49,760 --> 01:32:51,040
Speaker 8: This is already this is.

2033
01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:52,599
Speaker 5: Fourth year, fourth year.

2034
01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:55,960
Speaker 8: Well still you're still like a young, exciting receiver in

2035
01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:58,040
Speaker 8: this league. You guys are right on the cusp wire.

2036
01:32:58,720 --> 01:33:00,880
Speaker 8: I don't know. For me, I'm just like, let's see

2037
01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:01,559
Speaker 8: the bigger picture.

2038
01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:03,120
Speaker 5: You know what the hard thing is there for him?

2039
01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:07,000
Speaker 5: He just got his Yeah, he got his contract. How

2040
01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:08,479
Speaker 5: can I say you need to be here?

2041
01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:08,960
Speaker 10: Yeah?

2042
01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, but that's it is hard. I know what your

2043
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:14,519
Speaker 5: point is, Do you want to win a super Bowl?

2044
01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:16,240
Speaker 8: You're right on the cusp? Or do you want to

2045
01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:19,120
Speaker 8: get paid right now? Like you're gonna get paid eventually.

2046
01:33:19,160 --> 01:33:21,680
Speaker 8: You're gonna get money eventually. Why not just be like, hey,

2047
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:24,120
Speaker 8: you know what, like sometimes you got to do things

2048
01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:28,320
Speaker 8: for the greater good of the collective. And it's just like,

2049
01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:30,679
Speaker 8: where are your priorities? Do you want to win super Bowls?

2050
01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:33,680
Speaker 8: Or do you just want to create generational wealth for

2051
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 8: yourself because you're probably gonna do that anyways.

2052
01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:38,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, do you want a super Bowl?

2053
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:38,840
Speaker 11: Or no?

2054
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:40,760
Speaker 8: Like, when it's all said and done, will you be

2055
01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:43,960
Speaker 8: upset you didn't have a couple more million dollars that

2056
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:47,519
Speaker 8: one year or are you gonna be want a title?

2057
01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:49,560
Speaker 3: You'll make it up. But I mean that's to me

2058
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:51,800
Speaker 3: being on the cusp and feeling like you have all

2059
01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:53,600
Speaker 3: the pieces and it's like it feels like whack a

2060
01:33:53,640 --> 01:33:56,760
Speaker 3: mole right now with them, whether it's contract holdouts or

2061
01:33:57,160 --> 01:33:58,880
Speaker 3: you know, guys getting hurt at the wrong time, and

2062
01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:00,920
Speaker 3: it's just you know that it's one thing to be

2063
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:03,040
Speaker 3: like a team with the Patriots they're trying to rebuild,

2064
01:34:03,479 --> 01:34:05,519
Speaker 3: but to be a team that has the pieces and

2065
01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:07,560
Speaker 3: to know that the clock is kind of ticking on

2066
01:34:09,360 --> 01:34:11,240
Speaker 3: and you know, trying to find that right moment. It's

2067
01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:13,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I get why, it's why it's frustrating.

2068
01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:16,880
Speaker 5: I think it kind of like it closes the loop

2069
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:19,440
Speaker 5: on what I was just talking about with the reactions

2070
01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:22,280
Speaker 5: on the field, you know, and how happy everybody looks

2071
01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:25,920
Speaker 5: after the game. I think you'd be surprised to find

2072
01:34:25,960 --> 01:34:31,240
Speaker 5: out how few guys have the mentality that Alex just

2073
01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:33,519
Speaker 5: explained about, like you're gonna you know, you're so close

2074
01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:35,400
Speaker 5: to a super Bowl, and I'm not telling you these

2075
01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:37,040
Speaker 5: guys don't want to win. They all want to win,

2076
01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:41,400
Speaker 5: but it's not the thing for all of them, Like

2077
01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:44,760
Speaker 5: they want to win, but they want to get theirs too,

2078
01:34:44,840 --> 01:34:47,160
Speaker 5: and if they don't win, they'd rather get theirs than win,

2079
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:48,960
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying.

2080
01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:51,160
Speaker 3: Do you think do you think that the college system

2081
01:34:51,240 --> 01:34:53,439
Speaker 3: feeds into that a little bit where guys don't feel

2082
01:34:53,439 --> 01:34:55,400
Speaker 3: as committed to a team. They feel like, well, if

2083
01:34:55,439 --> 01:34:57,160
Speaker 3: it's not working here, I'm gonna go somewhere else. And

2084
01:34:57,240 --> 01:34:59,840
Speaker 3: really it seems like for star players it's more about

2085
01:34:59,840 --> 01:35:02,360
Speaker 3: the individual than it is the team. I know, Tom.

2086
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:05,880
Speaker 8: Well, I think it even goes back to high school

2087
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:07,479
Speaker 8: for these guys playing out this level.

2088
01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:10,800
Speaker 5: I've talked about it. Every sport, club sport thing I

2089
01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:16,599
Speaker 5: think is really you see it. Even my kids never

2090
01:35:16,760 --> 01:35:20,280
Speaker 5: played club sports at a level that they're playing in

2091
01:35:20,360 --> 01:35:22,880
Speaker 5: these you know, four and five star camps that they're

2092
01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:26,240
Speaker 5: getting recruited at. There was you know, Division three colleges

2093
01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:30,080
Speaker 5: around maybe was the highest level. So I can only

2094
01:35:30,160 --> 01:35:33,439
Speaker 5: imagine how much more magnified it is, you know, at

2095
01:35:33,479 --> 01:35:38,439
Speaker 5: the at the elite level, when you have nothing go

2096
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:42,000
Speaker 5: right for you, you just go, well that's okay. And

2097
01:35:42,120 --> 01:35:45,000
Speaker 5: they call them program jumpers, and I'm going to play

2098
01:35:45,080 --> 01:35:46,640
Speaker 5: for the Blizzard this year. I'm going to play for

2099
01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:48,519
Speaker 5: the Mass Elite. Next year, I'm going to play for

2100
01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:51,800
Speaker 5: the for the Boston share Rocks after that, and then

2101
01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:53,600
Speaker 5: if it doesn't work out, I'll just go to like,

2102
01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:57,640
Speaker 5: you know, East Elite. You know, I'll find you know,

2103
01:35:57,760 --> 01:35:59,880
Speaker 5: North Shore Sports Academy like this.

2104
01:36:00,120 --> 01:36:02,560
Speaker 8: So many different programs you're just jumping.

2105
01:36:02,520 --> 01:36:06,080
Speaker 5: And it's just I'm on the search to find out

2106
01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:09,840
Speaker 5: where I can play the most. Me me, me, me me.

2107
01:36:10,360 --> 01:36:15,880
Speaker 5: And that happens third grade, fourth grade, fifth grade, middle school,

2108
01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:19,200
Speaker 5: high school. So how do you think you're going to college?

2109
01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:24,320
Speaker 5: What do you mean there's a small forward that's better

2110
01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:27,000
Speaker 5: than me. I got to come off the bench. Peace.

2111
01:36:27,640 --> 01:36:30,000
Speaker 5: I'll go find a school. There's three hundred and sixty

2112
01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:32,360
Speaker 5: of them that play Division one basketball. I'll find a

2113
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:34,960
Speaker 5: school that I can start at, and I'm just going

2114
01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:37,559
Speaker 5: to go to change the program. You watch games now,

2115
01:36:38,040 --> 01:36:41,880
Speaker 5: it's unbelievable. Mike just so began his career at Holy

2116
01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:44,720
Speaker 5: Cross and he transferred, of course, to UNLV and now

2117
01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:49,240
Speaker 5: here he is at Kansas State. Every single player they

2118
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:53,040
Speaker 5: talk about has at least two, more often than not

2119
01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:57,280
Speaker 5: three schools on his resume. That can't be good for

2120
01:36:57,520 --> 01:37:01,360
Speaker 5: mental for a team first mentality moving into the pros, right,

2121
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:02,200
Speaker 5: It's just like.

2122
01:37:03,200 --> 01:37:05,000
Speaker 8: It's just all the emphasis too on, just like that

2123
01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:09,200
Speaker 8: instant gratification, not like I don't even know if they

2124
01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:11,720
Speaker 8: can comprehend the bigger picture here where I look at

2125
01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:14,040
Speaker 8: Look at a guy like Danny m Mondola. If they

2126
01:37:14,240 --> 01:37:17,640
Speaker 8: don't win those Super Bowls with the Patriots, ntol on

2127
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:20,559
Speaker 8: Dancing with the Stars right now, like they're stretching out

2128
01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:24,080
Speaker 8: their relevance as long as they can. Edelman two. But

2129
01:37:24,160 --> 01:37:26,920
Speaker 8: if they don't win those Super Bowls, no one gives

2130
01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:29,800
Speaker 8: an f Who the hell what am Mondola's up to

2131
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:32,639
Speaker 8: now or what Edelman's up to. But as a result

2132
01:37:32,720 --> 01:37:37,080
Speaker 8: of those Super Bowls, they're still relevant somehow, They're still

2133
01:37:37,320 --> 01:37:39,639
Speaker 8: those checks are still coming in, they're doing the media.

2134
01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:42,720
Speaker 5: But I would probably, you know, I'll go back to

2135
01:37:43,200 --> 01:37:45,880
Speaker 5: to finish it with with Chase. My guess is that

2136
01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:48,600
Speaker 5: a guy like Jamar Chase would say that's great. I

2137
01:37:48,640 --> 01:37:50,439
Speaker 5: don't want to be on Dancing with the Stars to

2138
01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:52,720
Speaker 5: make my millions. I want my millions now because I'm

2139
01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:55,320
Speaker 5: dominating the league now, do you know what I mean?

2140
01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:57,840
Speaker 5: Like I want what Justin Jefferson got My good friend,

2141
01:37:57,960 --> 01:38:00,479
Speaker 5: Justin Jefferson that I played at LSU with just got

2142
01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:03,280
Speaker 5: thirty five million a year. I want that. Yeah, And

2143
01:38:03,360 --> 01:38:04,559
Speaker 5: if they're not going to give it to me, then

2144
01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:08,479
Speaker 5: someone else, And He's right, someone else will. If Mike

2145
01:38:08,560 --> 01:38:10,599
Speaker 5: Brown doesn't give it to him, believe me, he will

2146
01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:14,519
Speaker 5: not be. He will not be. Brian Moorey sent me

2147
01:38:14,600 --> 01:38:15,800
Speaker 5: a you know, oh yeah, but what if we send

2148
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:18,680
Speaker 5: like a twenty six first round pick and it's like, like,

2149
01:38:18,800 --> 01:38:20,880
Speaker 5: why is Cincinnati waiting till twenty six?

2150
01:38:21,320 --> 01:38:21,479
Speaker 2: You know?

2151
01:38:21,920 --> 01:38:22,120
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2152
01:38:22,840 --> 01:38:24,479
Speaker 8: Comparison crazy joy.

2153
01:38:24,880 --> 01:38:28,040
Speaker 3: I'm going to read this one from Dublin, Kevin from Dublin.

2154
01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:30,120
Speaker 3: Mike Rees had some comments yesterday a little bit about

2155
01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:32,400
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick. I thought that I saw some people getting

2156
01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:35,840
Speaker 3: upset about. But question is when will Belichick be called out?

2157
01:38:36,760 --> 01:38:40,000
Speaker 3: Plenty of people say Belichick is calculating, that's nothing new.

2158
01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:42,200
Speaker 3: But I could not believe how transparent he was being

2159
01:38:42,240 --> 01:38:44,599
Speaker 3: on the segment with Tom Brady on his the Coach

2160
01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:47,760
Speaker 3: segment where he was criticizing just the franchises with whom

2161
01:38:47,840 --> 01:38:50,640
Speaker 3: he may have some personal gripe, and then praising the

2162
01:38:50,720 --> 01:38:53,799
Speaker 3: Lions and attributing a lot of their success to Matt Patricia,

2163
01:38:54,160 --> 01:38:56,719
Speaker 3: it's becoming so obvious that I wonder if braver souls

2164
01:38:56,720 --> 01:38:59,280
Speaker 3: among the national media might call it out at some point.

2165
01:38:59,640 --> 01:39:02,679
Speaker 5: Thanks Kevin, it's been a huge top of your conversation locally.

2166
01:39:02,920 --> 01:39:07,200
Speaker 5: And to Alex's point about our little show, the show

2167
01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:10,519
Speaker 5: within the show, that that was a big one today.

2168
01:39:11,200 --> 01:39:13,559
Speaker 5: You know in our offices it was embarrassing. The email

2169
01:39:13,720 --> 01:39:17,799
Speaker 5: is dead on listen. I'm not telling you what opinion

2170
01:39:17,880 --> 01:39:20,639
Speaker 5: you should have, and you know you want to espouse

2171
01:39:20,680 --> 01:39:23,519
Speaker 5: an opinion, but can you at least make an effort

2172
01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:30,280
Speaker 5: to try to put forward some form of legitimacy, some objectivity.

2173
01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:32,439
Speaker 5: What are you I mean, there's like four or five

2174
01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:35,519
Speaker 5: different things that happened, because let's face it, Belichick has

2175
01:39:35,560 --> 01:39:38,880
Speaker 5: like nine gigs. Now, what are some of the teams

2176
01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:43,120
Speaker 5: you think of the best run organizations? Now, do you

2177
01:39:43,240 --> 01:39:45,120
Speaker 5: think there's a lot of people that would come out?

2178
01:39:45,439 --> 01:39:48,479
Speaker 5: You know, and Brady prefaced that question by saying other

2179
01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:51,200
Speaker 5: than Kansas City, So I know everybody would say Kansas City.

2180
01:39:51,280 --> 01:39:53,719
Speaker 5: But do you think Dallas would be front of mine

2181
01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:56,479
Speaker 5: to a lot of people in that you love Jerry Jones,

2182
01:39:56,960 --> 01:39:59,280
Speaker 5: how about Philly? Dallas? Philly one?

2183
01:39:59,400 --> 01:39:59,559
Speaker 4: Two?

2184
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:02,160
Speaker 5: How do you think that is, are those the two

2185
01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:07,200
Speaker 5: teams that have ready made you know, rosters, ready to

2186
01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:09,519
Speaker 5: make a Super Bowl run that might be looking for

2187
01:40:09,640 --> 01:40:12,679
Speaker 5: coaches next year. And then he starts talking about Detroit

2188
01:40:14,240 --> 01:40:16,280
Speaker 5: and all the things that they've done, and he somehow

2189
01:40:16,520 --> 01:40:19,840
Speaker 5: tries to give credit to Matt Patricia who burnt the

2190
01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:21,800
Speaker 5: whole organization to the ground.

2191
01:40:22,240 --> 01:40:24,680
Speaker 3: Because he hired the offensive coordinator.

2192
01:40:24,439 --> 01:40:26,840
Speaker 5: And they're seeing the fruits of their labor now. But

2193
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:29,840
Speaker 5: he didn't hire the offensive coordinator as offensive coordinator. He

2194
01:40:29,880 --> 01:40:32,120
Speaker 5: didn't even hire the line coach as the line coach.

2195
01:40:32,439 --> 01:40:33,920
Speaker 5: He was the assistant line coach.

2196
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:35,200
Speaker 3: So they kept those guys around.

2197
01:40:36,040 --> 01:40:40,320
Speaker 5: So it's just embarrassingly transparent. He's ripping the Falcons at

2198
01:40:40,360 --> 01:40:43,719
Speaker 5: every turn. He's ripping the Patriots this week, not last

2199
01:40:43,720 --> 01:40:45,799
Speaker 5: week when they won and he was asked about the Patriots,

2200
01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:48,479
Speaker 5: and he answered a question about the Falcons. When Mike

2201
01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:51,519
Speaker 5: Lombardi teed him up about you know, teams that you know,

2202
01:40:52,760 --> 01:40:55,479
Speaker 5: played good sound football, mistake free football, and found a

2203
01:40:55,520 --> 01:40:58,519
Speaker 5: way to win games, he skips over the answer to

2204
01:40:58,560 --> 01:41:02,400
Speaker 5: the Patriots and talks about how Atlanta couldn't do that. Yeah, Now,

2205
01:41:02,479 --> 01:41:05,240
Speaker 5: this week, the Patriots make some mistakes in coaching. Mayo

2206
01:41:06,080 --> 01:41:08,559
Speaker 5: obviously botched the clock at did that. He was more

2207
01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:11,720
Speaker 5: than willing to jump in on that, like it's embarrassing.

2208
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:13,960
Speaker 5: You know, this is the greatest coach that's ever coached,

2209
01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:17,679
Speaker 5: and he is the pettiest man of all time.

2210
01:41:18,439 --> 01:41:20,680
Speaker 3: I mean, Mike, He's had some comments similar lines of

2211
01:41:21,240 --> 01:41:23,960
Speaker 3: you know, establishing at least some mean A lot of

2212
01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:26,160
Speaker 3: the fans are clapping back like he doesn't owe us anything.

2213
01:41:26,200 --> 01:41:29,760
Speaker 5: But he doesn't owe anything. He doesn't but but you,

2214
01:41:29,960 --> 01:41:30,760
Speaker 5: but he's just terrible.

2215
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:31,639
Speaker 3: The last couple of years.

2216
01:41:31,479 --> 01:41:33,720
Speaker 5: Should be the truth, right, don't you don't you think

2217
01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:35,160
Speaker 5: the truth should be should be.

2218
01:41:35,200 --> 01:41:37,320
Speaker 3: Owed and no matter how and no matter how it

2219
01:41:37,720 --> 01:41:40,760
Speaker 3: ended here put on a brave face, drow Mao's a

2220
01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:42,680
Speaker 3: kid you drafted, and I you know, I'm sure that

2221
01:41:42,760 --> 01:41:45,000
Speaker 3: you have all kinds of issues with how all that

2222
01:41:45,120 --> 01:41:47,679
Speaker 3: went down. But is it that hard to just say,

2223
01:41:48,680 --> 01:41:50,719
Speaker 3: you know, Girod's first time coach. You know, I support

2224
01:41:50,880 --> 01:41:52,160
Speaker 3: anything any just a bone.

2225
01:41:52,200 --> 01:41:54,400
Speaker 5: See, I don't need that. I don't need him to

2226
01:41:54,520 --> 01:41:57,719
Speaker 5: tell me anything good about what's going on with the Patriots.

2227
01:41:57,800 --> 01:42:01,040
Speaker 5: He has a grudge. He feels like he was wrong. Fine, yeah,

2228
01:42:01,960 --> 01:42:05,040
Speaker 5: so after they've won, you chose to take the high road,

2229
01:42:05,840 --> 01:42:09,360
Speaker 5: but when they lost, you broke your own rule one

2230
01:42:09,400 --> 01:42:12,000
Speaker 5: week later. Like that, to me is the part that

2231
01:42:12,080 --> 01:42:15,720
Speaker 5: I don't have any use for. If you said in

2232
01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:18,680
Speaker 5: week one, A, B, and C were good and then

2233
01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:20,160
Speaker 5: in week two, A, B and C are bad, I

2234
01:42:20,240 --> 01:42:22,760
Speaker 5: have no problem with that. But you're only going to

2235
01:42:22,800 --> 01:42:24,760
Speaker 5: point out the bad because you're a petty little man.

2236
01:42:24,920 --> 01:42:28,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's stand on Belichick from Edward's the part of

2237
01:42:28,280 --> 01:42:31,200
Speaker 3: the show. Right, Do you guys now fully believe that

2238
01:42:31,280 --> 01:42:34,040
Speaker 3: Bill didn't want a diva receiver like Chase because he

2239
01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:37,120
Speaker 3: knew a situation like the Bengals would happen. If so,

2240
01:42:37,280 --> 01:42:38,880
Speaker 3: do you believe he was right about it? I get

2241
01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:42,240
Speaker 3: Chase's elite, but is the drama worth it? No?

2242
01:42:42,400 --> 01:42:44,840
Speaker 5: You pay him, then you don't have the drama right,

2243
01:42:45,720 --> 01:42:50,360
Speaker 5: like good players cost money, like it's it. No, I

2244
01:42:50,400 --> 01:42:54,120
Speaker 5: don't think Bill was right. When you have Patrick Mahomes

2245
01:42:54,240 --> 01:42:56,559
Speaker 5: or Tom Brady, you know, like you can get away

2246
01:42:56,600 --> 01:42:59,759
Speaker 5: with those things. Like most teams don't have the luxury

2247
01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:01,720
Speaker 5: of saying, no, we don't need good players because we

2248
01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:03,920
Speaker 5: have a great player at the only position that matters.

2249
01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:04,920
Speaker 5: Most teams don't have that.

2250
01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:07,160
Speaker 3: The thing that was weird to me I watched I

2251
01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:09,360
Speaker 3: guess it was two weeks ago, the Coach episode, and

2252
01:43:10,200 --> 01:43:12,280
Speaker 3: and he spent so much time talking about what a

2253
01:43:12,360 --> 01:43:14,680
Speaker 3: game changer Ceedee Lamb is and how the first thing

2254
01:43:14,720 --> 01:43:16,599
Speaker 3: you've got to do when you're playing them is find

2255
01:43:16,720 --> 01:43:21,200
Speaker 3: that guy. Why because he play That's right, but still

2256
01:43:21,320 --> 01:43:23,639
Speaker 3: but like, but even if he was, you know, doing

2257
01:43:23,720 --> 01:43:27,120
Speaker 3: that thing, it's still just an obvious fact that right

2258
01:43:27,160 --> 01:43:29,479
Speaker 3: now in the NFL, if you don't have that player,

2259
01:43:29,840 --> 01:43:32,040
Speaker 3: all these teams are struggling. I mean, Bryce Young, everyone's

2260
01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:34,320
Speaker 3: crying about that. You know, it's it's it just seems

2261
01:43:34,400 --> 01:43:36,600
Speaker 3: like if you have a young quarterback, you have to

2262
01:43:36,640 --> 01:43:38,240
Speaker 3: try to figure out a way to find that guye

2263
01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:40,479
Speaker 3: one way or another. And you know, but that never

2264
01:43:40,520 --> 01:43:42,599
Speaker 3: seemed to be on the menu when he was here.

2265
01:43:42,760 --> 01:43:46,800
Speaker 5: Let me ask you, guys, who would you describe Rob

2266
01:43:46,840 --> 01:43:51,360
Speaker 5: Gronkowski greatest tight end? No, but like in terms of

2267
01:43:51,439 --> 01:43:54,200
Speaker 5: this kind of stuff, like high maintenance.

2268
01:43:54,720 --> 01:43:57,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe, bit of a diva, maybe a little bit

2269
01:43:57,040 --> 01:43:58,280
Speaker 3: a little bit you know, kind.

2270
01:43:58,160 --> 01:44:00,960
Speaker 8: Of got his own rules a little bit here, and yeah,

2271
01:44:01,560 --> 01:44:03,040
Speaker 8: r get bent for great players?

2272
01:44:03,160 --> 01:44:04,880
Speaker 5: Correct? Correct?

2273
01:44:05,479 --> 01:44:06,760
Speaker 13: He like that?

2274
01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:08,600
Speaker 5: I don't really see a whole lot of difference. He

2275
01:44:08,680 --> 01:44:13,640
Speaker 5: bitched about his contract. He bitched when you know he

2276
01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:16,599
Speaker 5: wasn't getting it and he wanted he wanted out, bitched

2277
01:44:16,600 --> 01:44:18,600
Speaker 5: about the way he was being told he needed to

2278
01:44:18,680 --> 01:44:21,960
Speaker 5: work out toward the end. If you recall Diva like

2279
01:44:22,200 --> 01:44:25,240
Speaker 5: and I don't say that in a negative way. Great

2280
01:44:25,320 --> 01:44:29,960
Speaker 5: players have different rules like. They were very lucky that

2281
01:44:30,080 --> 01:44:33,040
Speaker 5: they had Tom Brady, who got in line for the

2282
01:44:33,200 --> 01:44:35,919
Speaker 5: vast majority of his twenty year career.

2283
01:44:35,840 --> 01:44:37,920
Speaker 8: And then was able to help Bill keep everyone else

2284
01:44:37,960 --> 01:44:38,360
Speaker 8: in line.

2285
01:44:38,439 --> 01:44:43,400
Speaker 5: Right now if he decided that the way he did

2286
01:44:43,439 --> 01:44:45,840
Speaker 5: at the end, when he when he I'm going to

2287
01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:48,040
Speaker 5: use the word, finally woke up and realized he was

2288
01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:54,360
Speaker 5: being sort of manipulated and abuse is not the right word,

2289
01:44:54,439 --> 01:45:00,400
Speaker 5: but you know, taking advantage of I think is And

2290
01:45:00,439 --> 01:45:02,559
Speaker 5: then he said, well, no, I'm not going to sign

2291
01:45:02,640 --> 01:45:04,920
Speaker 5: for that. You remember Mike. This is again I blame

2292
01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:06,800
Speaker 5: it all on Mike, because when Mike got here, this

2293
01:45:06,880 --> 01:45:10,160
Speaker 5: is when everything just fell a playoffs where will we never?

2294
01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:10,439
Speaker 2: Not one?

2295
01:45:10,479 --> 01:45:12,760
Speaker 5: Where will we Mike Flynn, which which one of what

2296
01:45:12,920 --> 01:45:14,879
Speaker 5: we were either in Detroit or Nashville.

2297
01:45:15,520 --> 01:45:16,839
Speaker 3: I didn't go to Detroit so Nashville.

2298
01:45:16,880 --> 01:45:18,679
Speaker 5: Okay, so we're in that. You didn't go to Detroit.

2299
01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:20,080
Speaker 3: No, I just started like that week.

2300
01:45:20,600 --> 01:45:22,200
Speaker 5: So we were in Nashville, and what did what did

2301
01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:26,679
Speaker 5: Brady say? Go ask mister Kraft? He had finally had enough?

2302
01:45:27,560 --> 01:45:29,799
Speaker 5: You know, like that could have happened in two thousand

2303
01:45:29,800 --> 01:45:32,360
Speaker 5: and eight, but two thousand and six. You know, the

2304
01:45:32,400 --> 01:45:34,840
Speaker 5: Patriots were very lucky that it didn't happen until it did.

2305
01:45:35,479 --> 01:45:37,719
Speaker 3: I just blocked everything off from that trip except Derek Henry.

2306
01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:39,040
Speaker 5: So that's why I was like, what else?

2307
01:45:39,080 --> 01:45:39,120
Speaker 12: What?

2308
01:45:39,200 --> 01:45:39,519
Speaker 2: What else?

2309
01:45:39,680 --> 01:45:39,720
Speaker 3: Was?

2310
01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:43,400
Speaker 5: I blocked everything throwing up, I walked out everything. But

2311
01:45:43,439 --> 01:45:44,520
Speaker 5: you have karaoke.

2312
01:45:44,240 --> 01:45:46,479
Speaker 3: Performance, we're not we're not supposed to talk about that.

2313
01:45:47,360 --> 01:45:49,120
Speaker 3: Nashville calling for Seattle's got a good one.

2314
01:45:49,160 --> 01:45:49,280
Speaker 2: Though.

2315
01:45:49,400 --> 01:45:53,400
Speaker 5: It used to be fun go to karaoke song for me. Yeah,

2316
01:45:53,560 --> 01:45:55,840
Speaker 5: I didn't really have one, but I did bust a move.

2317
01:45:55,920 --> 01:45:57,840
Speaker 5: Just that's like a virgin my way. If we're going

2318
01:45:57,880 --> 01:45:58,519
Speaker 5: back to college.

2319
01:45:58,600 --> 01:46:02,280
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, they're just totally out of key butchering it,

2320
01:46:02,400 --> 01:46:03,000
Speaker 3: but it's now.

2321
01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:04,800
Speaker 5: I was with a couple of the baseball cars.

2322
01:46:05,000 --> 01:46:07,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the harmony going three part harmony, and I

2323
01:46:07,120 --> 01:46:07,800
Speaker 3: wouldn't say that.

2324
01:46:09,640 --> 01:46:10,400
Speaker 5: Colin Seattle.

2325
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:13,479
Speaker 3: What bothers you more the aforementioned pettiness from Bill at

2326
01:46:13,560 --> 01:46:16,160
Speaker 3: nearly every turn, or the outcry from those like McAfee

2327
01:46:16,520 --> 01:46:19,120
Speaker 3: and his ilk who cream their pants every time he

2328
01:46:19,280 --> 01:46:20,719
Speaker 3: mentions anything about football.

2329
01:46:20,840 --> 01:46:23,880
Speaker 5: That's tiresome too. But I understand why at least like

2330
01:46:24,160 --> 01:46:28,200
Speaker 5: McAfee is like, you know, I mean, I'll sacrifice my integrity.

2331
01:46:28,479 --> 01:46:30,120
Speaker 5: I'm getting him on the show. That's good for me,

2332
01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:33,519
Speaker 5: you know. But like, yes, that that was the most

2333
01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:36,280
Speaker 5: predictable thing out of all of this, is that whatever

2334
01:46:36,360 --> 01:46:39,240
Speaker 5: Bill said was going to be taken. Do you ever

2335
01:46:39,360 --> 01:46:41,080
Speaker 5: do you ever go to like Twitter on Monday nights

2336
01:46:42,560 --> 01:46:45,400
Speaker 5: dropping the knowledge like what like you know, you should

2337
01:46:45,520 --> 01:46:48,080
Speaker 5: play like too high safety or you know some other

2338
01:46:48,200 --> 01:46:50,920
Speaker 5: thing that everybody else is saying. Like they show a

2339
01:46:51,000 --> 01:46:53,120
Speaker 5: play of Barkley going out of the backfield and the

2340
01:46:53,280 --> 01:46:56,120
Speaker 5: Falcons guy hits him and knocks him down. It's because

2341
01:46:56,120 --> 01:46:57,280
Speaker 5: he knocked him on his ask.

2342
01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:03,439
Speaker 8: Like this all day yesterday, I think it was yesterday

2343
01:47:04,200 --> 01:47:07,679
Speaker 8: mccordy talking about Bill predicting the wind pattern stuff.

2344
01:47:07,840 --> 01:47:08,639
Speaker 5: Now, that was different.

2345
01:47:08,800 --> 01:47:09,439
Speaker 2: Was kind of cool.

2346
01:47:09,680 --> 01:47:12,560
Speaker 5: That was different, I agree, right, that was kind of

2347
01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:15,600
Speaker 5: like holy crap, you know, But not like oh, I

2348
01:47:15,680 --> 01:47:17,240
Speaker 5: mean when when the back is coming out of the

2349
01:47:17,240 --> 01:47:18,360
Speaker 5: backfield you try to hit.

2350
01:47:18,360 --> 01:47:19,240
Speaker 4: Him like that.

2351
01:47:19,439 --> 01:47:21,439
Speaker 5: This is like, this is breaking news.

2352
01:47:21,720 --> 01:47:23,599
Speaker 3: I think he's overworked right now. Bill's he's just got

2353
01:47:23,640 --> 01:47:26,080
Speaker 3: too much, like he's got commercials. This is everywhere your turn.

2354
01:47:26,320 --> 01:47:28,040
Speaker 5: Did you hear the thing that mccy talks about that

2355
01:47:29,040 --> 01:47:30,360
Speaker 5: that was that was kind of interesting?

2356
01:47:30,439 --> 01:47:32,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then they had the clip. I think to

2357
01:47:32,360 --> 01:47:34,599
Speaker 3: at least somebody who would put the video together showed

2358
01:47:35,000 --> 01:47:36,599
Speaker 3: you know that that I mean for the people listening,

2359
01:47:36,640 --> 01:47:38,120
Speaker 3: we didn't hear it. I think Bill said to him

2360
01:47:38,640 --> 01:47:40,720
Speaker 3: the way the wind swirls in jol that stadium, if

2361
01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:42,880
Speaker 3: you're going down the sideline, it's gonna the ball and

2362
01:47:42,960 --> 01:47:44,880
Speaker 3: it's coming deep. It's gonna look like it's going deep,

2363
01:47:44,920 --> 01:47:46,760
Speaker 3: but it's gonna die once it hits the wind. So

2364
01:47:47,200 --> 01:47:49,360
Speaker 3: stay underneath and you'll get you'll get the pick and

2365
01:47:49,479 --> 01:47:51,320
Speaker 3: you know, as the head turned.

2366
01:47:51,800 --> 01:47:54,519
Speaker 8: Probably no longer the case with the scoreboard. I remember

2367
01:47:54,560 --> 01:47:56,280
Speaker 8: when Bill was still here in the square, one of

2368
01:47:56,320 --> 01:47:59,000
Speaker 8: the questions, like all so pissed about it. You could

2369
01:47:59,080 --> 01:48:01,880
Speaker 8: just tell he was like, I've for twenty years been

2370
01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:06,320
Speaker 8: studying the wind patterns, and now we gotta start from scratch, just.

2371
01:48:06,320 --> 01:48:08,360
Speaker 3: Get our need to fire up the wind machine. Let's

2372
01:48:08,560 --> 01:48:10,160
Speaker 3: hop over to the phone here real quick. Kevin's in

2373
01:48:10,200 --> 01:48:10,799
Speaker 3: South Carolina.

2374
01:48:10,840 --> 01:48:14,800
Speaker 5: Hey Kevin, Hey, how they're about doing good? Good?

2375
01:48:14,840 --> 01:48:17,360
Speaker 3: Thanks for calling it, appreciate it.

2376
01:48:17,360 --> 01:48:20,760
Speaker 11: I got two points. First and foremost, Central Massachusetts has

2377
01:48:20,800 --> 01:48:24,040
Speaker 11: a big eas an exhibition, y'all is very important for

2378
01:48:24,120 --> 01:48:25,719
Speaker 11: the country. Kids there we are, Alex.

2379
01:48:25,920 --> 01:48:26,439
Speaker 2: I'm with you.

2380
01:48:26,960 --> 01:48:30,240
Speaker 11: First point, we may be minute men. As a former

2381
01:48:30,320 --> 01:48:34,000
Speaker 11: and current student, we may be minute man. At least

2382
01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:35,280
Speaker 11: we get so. Am I right?

2383
01:48:36,560 --> 01:48:38,720
Speaker 8: I'm sorry the way this did you guys know what

2384
01:48:38,840 --> 01:48:39,120
Speaker 8: he said?

2385
01:48:39,400 --> 01:48:41,760
Speaker 3: I think the minute's saying some mini Sorry broke up

2386
01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:42,479
Speaker 3: a little bit if you're.

2387
01:48:42,360 --> 01:48:44,720
Speaker 8: Talking about you mass But it's just hard to hear you.

2388
01:48:46,479 --> 01:48:48,599
Speaker 11: I apologize. I'm trying to make a joke.

2389
01:48:49,120 --> 01:48:51,120
Speaker 8: Oh Kevin, I don't think it's you. I think it's

2390
01:48:51,160 --> 01:48:53,439
Speaker 8: our new speaker system. It's just hard to hear our

2391
01:48:53,479 --> 01:48:54,600
Speaker 8: callers enunciating.

2392
01:48:54,720 --> 01:48:56,800
Speaker 3: It's not great for humor when you can't hear the person.

2393
01:48:57,120 --> 01:48:59,439
Speaker 3: I'm sure it was a good job. Was your other question, keV.

2394
01:49:00,320 --> 01:49:01,040
Speaker 11: I'm hilarious.

2395
01:49:01,200 --> 01:49:01,640
Speaker 3: I know it.

2396
01:49:01,720 --> 01:49:02,200
Speaker 2: We believe it.

2397
01:49:03,720 --> 01:49:07,479
Speaker 11: Two from out your space, looking down if I was

2398
01:49:07,520 --> 01:49:12,479
Speaker 11: in an astronaut suit looking down on the Patriots? Am

2399
01:49:12,560 --> 01:49:14,719
Speaker 11: I upset that we're going to go three and fifteen

2400
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:17,719
Speaker 11: when we have a quarterback and a left tackle named

2401
01:49:17,720 --> 01:49:20,280
Speaker 11: after the Vader? And did you all feel bad about

2402
01:49:20,320 --> 01:49:24,120
Speaker 11: being a reference for drafting a left tackle named Vader?

2403
01:49:24,360 --> 01:49:26,639
Speaker 11: Are we the Evil Empire? A forty? Respond?

2404
01:49:28,360 --> 01:49:29,080
Speaker 10: Oh my god?

2405
01:49:30,040 --> 01:49:30,519
Speaker 5: Thanks Kevin?

2406
01:49:30,720 --> 01:49:31,960
Speaker 3: Uh, we have a Vader?

2407
01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:32,280
Speaker 1: Who is that?

2408
01:49:33,160 --> 01:49:33,320
Speaker 2: Look?

2409
01:49:33,360 --> 01:49:35,639
Speaker 3: I'm a Star Wars guy, but I know who's the Vader?

2410
01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:38,000
Speaker 3: Dang it, Kevin right back in.

2411
01:49:38,439 --> 01:49:38,800
Speaker 5: I don't know.

2412
01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:40,559
Speaker 3: I'm not sure. I would love to have a Star

2413
01:49:40,600 --> 01:49:43,840
Speaker 3: Wars theme team, but may if the force be with.

2414
01:49:43,880 --> 01:49:45,720
Speaker 5: You, I don't know what I would have done. I'm

2415
01:49:45,720 --> 01:49:46,840
Speaker 5: not you didn't never mind, you.

2416
01:49:46,840 --> 01:49:49,240
Speaker 3: Saw the main movie in the theater once and that

2417
01:49:49,320 --> 01:49:50,720
Speaker 3: way that was it. That was good for Paul.

2418
01:49:50,760 --> 01:49:54,479
Speaker 5: He's like, that's a nice movie. It's good, enjoyed. It

2419
01:49:54,560 --> 01:49:56,320
Speaker 5: didn't need to be part of the murder. It didn't

2420
01:49:56,360 --> 01:49:57,360
Speaker 5: change my line in morrel.

2421
01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:03,760
Speaker 3: A little joke here though, After seeing the other rookie

2422
01:50:03,880 --> 01:50:06,559
Speaker 3: qbs play for two weeks, I know, super small sample size.

2423
01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:09,200
Speaker 3: Would you do a one for one trade for any

2424
01:50:09,240 --> 01:50:13,680
Speaker 3: of them? Daniels oh, Caleb Williams. Absolutely, yeah, that's it.

2425
01:50:13,800 --> 01:50:16,400
Speaker 5: Though I liked May better than Jayden Daniels coming out

2426
01:50:16,439 --> 01:50:18,160
Speaker 5: of college, I was on record of saying that I

2427
01:50:18,280 --> 01:50:19,320
Speaker 5: still feel that way.

2428
01:50:19,720 --> 01:50:22,120
Speaker 3: I think, uh, I just I said it to Evan

2429
01:50:22,200 --> 01:50:23,720
Speaker 3: And this probably sounds stupid.

2430
01:50:23,439 --> 01:50:25,439
Speaker 5: But and I wouldn't have taken bon Nicks until like

2431
01:50:25,479 --> 01:50:25,880
Speaker 5: the third or.

2432
01:50:25,840 --> 01:50:29,160
Speaker 3: Fourth rount right so, and this again is gonna sund

2433
01:50:29,160 --> 01:50:31,120
Speaker 3: but like, you can't really tell until you see a

2434
01:50:31,120 --> 01:50:32,880
Speaker 3: guy play in the NFL how they actually look, no

2435
01:50:32,920 --> 01:50:35,160
Speaker 3: matter how much you watch them, until they are against

2436
01:50:35,560 --> 01:50:38,320
Speaker 3: other NFL players. And you know, Jane Daniels always looks

2437
01:50:38,360 --> 01:50:40,960
Speaker 3: super fast to me. But I just didn't anticipate how

2438
01:50:41,080 --> 01:50:42,719
Speaker 3: how good he is it getting the ball out quick

2439
01:50:42,760 --> 01:50:45,920
Speaker 3: and just his like garoppolo like, you know, getting it out,

2440
01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:47,800
Speaker 3: which didn't really jump out to me. And I think

2441
01:50:47,840 --> 01:50:49,360
Speaker 3: I might have liked him a little bit more had

2442
01:50:49,400 --> 01:50:51,240
Speaker 3: I seen that when I was first watching him. But

2443
01:50:51,760 --> 01:50:53,880
Speaker 3: I wanted May all along. I remember being in the

2444
01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:57,320
Speaker 3: owners meeting getting into with Tommy Current. I was just

2445
01:50:57,360 --> 01:50:59,240
Speaker 3: at that point I was like, I just want May,

2446
01:50:59,400 --> 01:51:01,840
Speaker 3: like I just take a head, but you was he

2447
01:51:01,960 --> 01:51:03,400
Speaker 3: was still thinking about it, I think, and then I

2448
01:51:03,479 --> 01:51:05,320
Speaker 3: ran away and uh probably got my time.

2449
01:51:05,520 --> 01:51:07,160
Speaker 5: Good move by you, good move for you.

2450
01:51:07,720 --> 01:51:09,439
Speaker 3: I just think May, it's it's the same thing. He's

2451
01:51:09,479 --> 01:51:11,720
Speaker 3: a good kid, he's got all the tools. We talked

2452
01:51:11,720 --> 01:51:14,120
Speaker 3: about a hundred times. It's never going to be an

2453
01:51:14,160 --> 01:51:17,000
Speaker 3: issue physically for him. It might be mentally. Maybe he's

2454
01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:19,360
Speaker 3: got you know, physical things to clean up for sure,

2455
01:51:19,720 --> 01:51:22,560
Speaker 3: as all these guys do. But if you're going to

2456
01:51:22,680 --> 01:51:25,760
Speaker 3: take a raw lump of clay, and that's what we

2457
01:51:25,760 --> 01:51:27,320
Speaker 3: said when I got Mac, it was like you. I

2458
01:51:27,479 --> 01:51:29,599
Speaker 3: just looked at Herbert and Allen and these guys who

2459
01:51:29,680 --> 01:51:33,600
Speaker 3: are huge and big arm and can run when they

2460
01:51:33,720 --> 01:51:35,880
Speaker 3: have to, and you know they have an understanding of

2461
01:51:35,960 --> 01:51:38,240
Speaker 3: the game. And he's still just twenty one. So I

2462
01:51:38,760 --> 01:51:42,080
Speaker 3: still really feel good about about May. But like everybody,

2463
01:51:42,760 --> 01:51:44,519
Speaker 3: he's got again in this year, we got to start

2464
01:51:44,600 --> 01:51:47,760
Speaker 3: that process of letting him take his lumps. You know,

2465
01:51:47,880 --> 01:51:49,600
Speaker 3: want some lumps taken this year so we don't have

2466
01:51:49,640 --> 01:51:49,840
Speaker 3: to think.

2467
01:51:49,880 --> 01:51:51,559
Speaker 5: I thought that email was going to be more along

2468
01:51:51,640 --> 01:51:55,200
Speaker 5: the lines of do you now think the Patriots are

2469
01:51:55,280 --> 01:51:56,680
Speaker 5: doing the right you know, for those of you that

2470
01:51:56,800 --> 01:51:59,040
Speaker 5: thought May should play right away, And I didn't necessarily

2471
01:51:59,080 --> 01:52:00,960
Speaker 5: think May should play right way. I wanted him to

2472
01:52:01,000 --> 01:52:02,960
Speaker 5: play right away, and I still want him to play.

2473
01:52:03,920 --> 01:52:05,680
Speaker 5: But do you think that the Patriots now do you

2474
01:52:05,800 --> 01:52:07,840
Speaker 5: think of it differently? And my answer is no, Like

2475
01:52:07,960 --> 01:52:11,599
Speaker 5: I have no illusions that when Drake May plays, he's

2476
01:52:11,720 --> 01:52:14,920
Speaker 5: probably not gonna look like CJ. Stroud does now. Yeah,

2477
01:52:15,360 --> 01:52:20,439
Speaker 5: like that's rare. Like most likely he's either gonna be

2478
01:52:20,840 --> 01:52:24,160
Speaker 5: mistake prone or he's gonna be asked to do what

2479
01:52:24,240 --> 01:52:26,200
Speaker 5: Prissette's doing right now and just kick the ball out

2480
01:52:26,200 --> 01:52:28,920
Speaker 5: of harm's way. Yeah, which I hope he's mistake prone

2481
01:52:28,960 --> 01:52:30,840
Speaker 5: and not doing That's what I was just about the

2482
01:52:30,920 --> 01:52:32,160
Speaker 5: only way to me you can get.

2483
01:52:32,080 --> 01:52:33,439
Speaker 3: Any of the words right out of my mouth. And

2484
01:52:33,520 --> 01:52:35,000
Speaker 3: that was you know, one thing that I was just

2485
01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:37,599
Speaker 3: so impressed with him during the summer was that he's

2486
01:52:37,640 --> 01:52:39,320
Speaker 3: not afraid to take those shots. I mean, he's not

2487
01:52:39,400 --> 01:52:41,120
Speaker 3: afraid to throw the ball down the field. He did

2488
01:52:41,160 --> 01:52:43,320
Speaker 3: it a lot, I mean, especially to Javon Baker, who

2489
01:52:43,400 --> 01:52:46,200
Speaker 3: somehow continued to have his trust despite you know, after

2490
01:52:46,280 --> 01:52:48,320
Speaker 3: a certain second or third week in camp couldn't really

2491
01:52:48,360 --> 01:52:51,200
Speaker 3: catch that ball anymore. But there's me.

2492
01:52:51,280 --> 01:52:53,720
Speaker 5: It's just as much about the shorter stuff too, Like

2493
01:52:53,960 --> 01:52:56,640
Speaker 5: that's kind of covered, like he's kind of open, like

2494
01:52:56,960 --> 01:52:59,640
Speaker 5: jamming in there. Like there was how many times that

2495
01:53:00,520 --> 01:53:03,560
Speaker 5: I knew there was a reason, you know, And I

2496
01:53:03,680 --> 01:53:07,160
Speaker 5: talked about this. Brissett's got like the second best interception

2497
01:53:07,280 --> 01:53:09,960
Speaker 5: percentage during his time in the career to only Aaron Rodgers.

2498
01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:14,959
Speaker 5: Who do you think has a better touchdown percentage? Brissette

2499
01:53:15,120 --> 01:53:15,840
Speaker 5: or mac Jones?

2500
01:53:15,920 --> 01:53:17,400
Speaker 3: Oh maybe mac Jones.

2501
01:53:17,439 --> 01:53:20,479
Speaker 5: Mac Jones, And mac Jones was another guy who didn't

2502
01:53:21,439 --> 01:53:23,840
Speaker 5: force the ball in and do all those things you

2503
01:53:23,960 --> 01:53:27,479
Speaker 5: need to make plays, Like you can't just not make

2504
01:53:27,560 --> 01:53:30,120
Speaker 5: bad ones. You have to make great ones too in

2505
01:53:30,280 --> 01:53:33,479
Speaker 5: order to be good. And they don't. He doesn't risk

2506
01:53:33,600 --> 01:53:35,759
Speaker 5: he doesn't he doesn't make those risky throws.

2507
01:53:36,200 --> 01:53:37,720
Speaker 8: And that's why we are kind of where we are

2508
01:53:37,840 --> 01:53:40,040
Speaker 8: right now, where it's he's not losing us the game,

2509
01:53:40,160 --> 01:53:43,360
Speaker 8: he's not winning us the game. So what does he

2510
01:53:43,479 --> 01:53:45,719
Speaker 8: need to do for us to just be like, Okay,

2511
01:53:46,120 --> 01:53:48,559
Speaker 8: let's let's see it from Drake, because right now we're

2512
01:53:48,600 --> 01:53:51,120
Speaker 8: in this weird middle ground, this gray area where he's

2513
01:53:51,200 --> 01:53:54,200
Speaker 8: managing the game. He's doing everything you ask, but it's

2514
01:53:54,320 --> 01:53:56,120
Speaker 8: just like we just wanted to be a little.

2515
01:53:55,920 --> 01:53:59,560
Speaker 3: Sexier, Yeah, and I mean, it's just every time you

2516
01:53:59,560 --> 01:54:01,760
Speaker 3: hear about people are open downfield, and it's like, maybe,

2517
01:54:02,479 --> 01:54:04,479
Speaker 3: like the fantasy land is that Drake May is exactly

2518
01:54:04,560 --> 01:54:06,160
Speaker 3: what they're gonna need. You know, he's gonna be able

2519
01:54:06,200 --> 01:54:07,920
Speaker 3: to hold them, you know. I think your point about

2520
01:54:07,920 --> 01:54:10,160
Speaker 3: the short passes though, that's the thing. It's like, can

2521
01:54:10,240 --> 01:54:11,760
Speaker 3: he hit that stuff in rhythm? Is he you know,

2522
01:54:11,880 --> 01:54:14,200
Speaker 3: going to shy away from Pop Douglas. But they haven't

2523
01:54:14,240 --> 01:54:14,519
Speaker 3: thrown it.

2524
01:54:14,600 --> 01:54:18,000
Speaker 5: They haven't even called any real shots. I think they've

2525
01:54:18,040 --> 01:54:20,840
Speaker 5: had one and one in each game. But to me,

2526
01:54:20,960 --> 01:54:23,760
Speaker 5: there has to have been more opportunities to hit a

2527
01:54:23,800 --> 01:54:27,280
Speaker 5: crossing route or throwing out where the guys kind of open,

2528
01:54:27,479 --> 01:54:30,240
Speaker 5: you know, just just gotta let it rip, you know,

2529
01:54:30,320 --> 01:54:33,160
Speaker 5: get one down the scene even you know, maybe you

2530
01:54:33,240 --> 01:54:35,520
Speaker 5: know over the linebackers in front of the safeties. You know,

2531
01:54:35,640 --> 01:54:37,920
Speaker 5: it's pretty tough throws. There was one in the birth

2532
01:54:38,520 --> 01:54:40,720
Speaker 5: one of the first throws of the game against Cincinnati.

2533
01:54:40,800 --> 01:54:44,000
Speaker 5: I thought he had Austin Hooper maybe the first third down.

2534
01:54:45,160 --> 01:54:47,040
Speaker 5: It was kind of like an over route, you know,

2535
01:54:47,680 --> 01:54:48,600
Speaker 5: toward the sideline.

2536
01:54:48,680 --> 01:54:51,200
Speaker 3: Hooper wasn't watching them, Hooper.

2537
01:54:51,000 --> 01:54:54,960
Speaker 5: Was driving the boat if it it but it just

2538
01:54:55,160 --> 01:54:58,840
Speaker 5: kind of fell into a safe there. We used to

2539
01:54:58,840 --> 01:55:01,160
Speaker 5: play bubble football here again. We used to have all

2540
01:55:01,280 --> 01:55:03,720
Speaker 5: kinds of fun. When Mike wasn't games, I ruined it

2541
01:55:04,320 --> 01:55:06,200
Speaker 5: and I used to because I used to. I used

2542
01:55:06,200 --> 01:55:09,280
Speaker 5: to throw the ball like really softly to space because

2543
01:55:10,840 --> 01:55:13,800
Speaker 5: like you're not like there's a fine line between playing

2544
01:55:13,840 --> 01:55:16,400
Speaker 5: bubble football and being what is bubble for a hero?

2545
01:55:16,560 --> 01:55:20,240
Speaker 5: You know in the bubble Oh you just around bubble.

2546
01:55:20,280 --> 01:55:22,000
Speaker 5: We used to play when.

2547
01:55:21,920 --> 01:55:24,320
Speaker 8: There's a fine line between just having a fun catch

2548
01:55:25,120 --> 01:55:27,240
Speaker 8: and what happened at our media football game.

2549
01:55:27,480 --> 01:55:28,120
Speaker 2: I was trying to be.

2550
01:55:29,600 --> 01:55:31,200
Speaker 5: That kind of stuff. It's good we got to work

2551
01:55:31,200 --> 01:55:33,360
Speaker 5: on the The last thing I wanted to do is like, oh,

2552
01:55:33,840 --> 01:55:35,720
Speaker 5: he's he's kind of open. I'm going to gym this

2553
01:55:35,800 --> 01:55:38,560
Speaker 5: one in bang and break a finger, you know, Like

2554
01:55:39,840 --> 01:55:42,000
Speaker 5: that's how Brisett throws. Like I'm going to put it.

2555
01:55:42,440 --> 01:55:44,120
Speaker 5: If I put it right on his shoulder, he has

2556
01:55:44,160 --> 01:55:45,480
Speaker 5: a chance to catch it, but then the other guy

2557
01:55:45,520 --> 01:55:47,280
Speaker 5: has a chance to knock it away. So I'm going

2558
01:55:47,360 --> 01:55:48,960
Speaker 5: to put it over there a little bit, you know,

2559
01:55:49,000 --> 01:55:49,600
Speaker 5: with that way.

2560
01:55:49,480 --> 01:55:50,040
Speaker 6: It just fall.

2561
01:55:50,200 --> 01:55:52,760
Speaker 5: If you're picking zones, only my guy can get it,

2562
01:55:52,920 --> 01:55:55,080
Speaker 5: but more than likely it's going to be incomplete.

2563
01:55:55,560 --> 01:55:58,120
Speaker 3: Not only not everybody played high level high school football

2564
01:55:58,120 --> 01:56:01,680
Speaker 3: like correct power A right were twenty two lead. It's

2565
01:56:01,760 --> 01:56:03,640
Speaker 3: my favorite. Well when you said bubble full sinking to

2566
01:56:03,680 --> 01:56:05,680
Speaker 3: the bubble hockey game, which I'm sure all my hockey

2567
01:56:05,760 --> 01:56:09,040
Speaker 3: I was the bubble hockey game. I mean I remember

2568
01:56:09,080 --> 01:56:11,360
Speaker 3: going into a rink in La like random middle of

2569
01:56:11,440 --> 01:56:13,600
Speaker 3: the valley, taking the kids learn to skate, and they

2570
01:56:13,640 --> 01:56:16,560
Speaker 3: had the b you know, it's like, that's just it's

2571
01:56:16,600 --> 01:56:19,880
Speaker 3: the best. Yeah, the song that you know, play like

2572
01:56:19,960 --> 01:56:20,680
Speaker 3: the music and stuff.

2573
01:56:21,280 --> 01:56:22,880
Speaker 5: Did you beat Campbell? Oh?

2574
01:56:23,000 --> 01:56:24,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, come on, what are you doing?

2575
01:56:25,000 --> 01:56:25,040
Speaker 5: No?

2576
01:56:25,080 --> 01:56:26,160
Speaker 3: I think it was one of those ones where like

2577
01:56:26,200 --> 01:56:27,760
Speaker 3: the puckets stuck on the back of the net and

2578
01:56:27,800 --> 01:56:29,960
Speaker 3: you gotta like wrangle the whole thing and it's a

2579
01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:30,760
Speaker 3: big pain in the butt.

2580
01:56:30,840 --> 01:56:32,560
Speaker 5: Ah, got to get one.

2581
01:56:32,520 --> 01:56:34,680
Speaker 3: More question here about the defense from my guy David

2582
01:56:34,760 --> 01:56:38,280
Speaker 3: and Bethlehem Pats need White and Jennings to dial up

2583
01:56:38,480 --> 01:56:42,840
Speaker 3: rushes and then it goes on Rogers just can't run

2584
01:56:42,960 --> 01:56:45,160
Speaker 3: go get them, and Evan's right, Stevenson should run right

2585
01:56:45,200 --> 01:56:47,600
Speaker 3: at them. Last point, how about two backs with Stevenson

2586
01:56:47,640 --> 01:56:50,840
Speaker 3: getting the fake and Hasty going the water bug end around.

2587
01:56:52,160 --> 01:56:55,880
Speaker 3: I just would say Jennings like like to get a

2588
01:56:55,920 --> 01:56:57,720
Speaker 3: little more out of him. I mean, White, I can't.

2589
01:56:57,800 --> 01:57:00,480
Speaker 3: You can't ask for more than he's given you. I

2590
01:57:00,640 --> 01:57:02,120
Speaker 3: was slow to see him in the summer. I'm not

2591
01:57:02,160 --> 01:57:04,640
Speaker 3: slow to see him now. He's obviously playing awesome and

2592
01:57:04,720 --> 01:57:06,960
Speaker 3: it's a huge boost for the defense, and they just

2593
01:57:07,040 --> 01:57:08,920
Speaker 3: need more though, they need you know, they need Dietrich

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01:57:09,000 --> 01:57:11,880
Speaker 3: Wise to remember early last couple of seasons, t Wise

2595
01:57:12,000 --> 01:57:13,280
Speaker 3: is like comes out on fire, has a you know,

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01:57:13,360 --> 01:57:13,960
Speaker 3: two sack games.

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Speaker 8: You just had like a three second game, you know,

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01:57:16,000 --> 01:57:17,240
Speaker 8: means like if.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna win that they need that game to happen.

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Speaker 3: And I just I'm kind of I'm kind of losing

2601
01:57:22,000 --> 01:57:24,360
Speaker 3: faith that anyone else is going to really emerge.

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01:57:24,680 --> 01:57:26,320
Speaker 8: That's kind of why I said to be in the show,

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01:57:26,400 --> 01:57:28,960
Speaker 8: Like I wouldn't have wished the Patriots pass rush on

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01:57:29,080 --> 01:57:32,160
Speaker 8: my worst enemy, like even as recently as last year,

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01:57:32,320 --> 01:57:34,440
Speaker 8: And I don't know, it's just.

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Speaker 5: A hard way to live.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's you know, that's the game, that's the game,

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01:57:37,480 --> 01:57:41,040
Speaker 3: getting after the quarterback, getting guys uncomfortable, having athletic pieces

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Speaker 3: up front.

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Speaker 5: I mean, me and Paul we got.

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Speaker 3: Into a thing last night on cell phones on cell

2612
01:57:44,400 --> 01:57:47,840
Speaker 3: phones texting about about and you know how he's got

2613
01:57:47,920 --> 01:57:50,680
Speaker 3: metrics of always he's getting pressure. I'm like, he's getting

2614
01:57:50,720 --> 01:57:52,800
Speaker 3: pressure there though, like the lowest ranked pressure team in

2615
01:57:52,840 --> 01:57:54,280
Speaker 3: the league right now, and he's like.

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Speaker 8: You know, also, I think judea On freed up a lot.

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01:57:58,600 --> 01:58:00,760
Speaker 8: Of course, that's what was it two years ago? Where

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01:58:01,120 --> 01:58:03,480
Speaker 8: had that really breakout year And everyone almost like, oh,

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01:58:03,640 --> 01:58:06,600
Speaker 8: it's no problem if Judon goes down because we have Luche,

2620
01:58:06,720 --> 01:58:08,160
Speaker 8: we have Bentley, and it.

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Speaker 3: Just he's I mean, he's a quick guy. Like he's quick.

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01:58:11,520 --> 01:58:13,960
Speaker 3: He's hard for some of the bigger tackles to really

2623
01:58:14,000 --> 01:58:15,960
Speaker 3: get under him, and so I think he does. But

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Speaker 3: that's that's his skill, that's his.

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01:58:17,440 --> 01:58:19,640
Speaker 5: One trend and he's yeah, he's done that a little bit.

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01:58:19,760 --> 01:58:22,680
Speaker 5: But I just like the numbers would would indicate that

2627
01:58:22,720 --> 01:58:24,520
Speaker 5: he's been among the best in the league in the

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01:58:24,600 --> 01:58:26,480
Speaker 5: first two weeks, and I haven't noticed him that much.

2629
01:58:26,720 --> 01:58:29,280
Speaker 5: There have been occasional flashes on the edge. He might

2630
01:58:29,320 --> 01:58:31,360
Speaker 5: be right, he's very athletic. It's a pressure he has

2631
01:58:31,400 --> 01:58:33,800
Speaker 5: an ability to get put in to get that tackle,

2632
01:58:34,400 --> 01:58:36,360
Speaker 5: you get the edge on that tackle. But I don't

2633
01:58:36,480 --> 01:58:37,520
Speaker 5: think I've seen it a lot.

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01:58:37,760 --> 01:58:39,360
Speaker 3: It's like the team rush though, and that's why he's

2635
01:58:39,360 --> 01:58:41,360
Speaker 3: a good part of it because he can win. You know,

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01:58:42,000 --> 01:58:43,960
Speaker 3: we talk so much about winning one on one matchups

2637
01:58:44,040 --> 01:58:45,880
Speaker 3: being the key. And I mean, again, the Jets are

2638
01:58:45,960 --> 01:58:48,360
Speaker 3: the best pass rushing you know, pressure team with just

2639
01:58:48,440 --> 01:58:50,640
Speaker 3: rushing four guys, which that's where you want to be

2640
01:58:50,680 --> 01:58:52,720
Speaker 3: as a defense. Like four guys, all of them can

2641
01:58:52,800 --> 01:58:55,600
Speaker 3: get get after the ball, and it's just been too long.

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01:58:55,640 --> 01:58:57,800
Speaker 3: I mean maybe next year if Barmore is able to

2643
01:58:57,840 --> 01:58:59,360
Speaker 3: come back to you or White in the middle, that's.

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01:58:59,680 --> 01:59:01,480
Speaker 5: Kind of get it. Like with the Jets, so like

2645
01:59:01,720 --> 01:59:03,840
Speaker 5: Jermaine Johnson's a really good pass rusher for them, and

2646
01:59:03,880 --> 01:59:05,720
Speaker 5: he's out, you know, and they have a former first

2647
01:59:05,800 --> 01:59:08,640
Speaker 5: round pick and Will McDonald who again he's been a

2648
01:59:08,680 --> 01:59:10,880
Speaker 5: little bit of a disappointment so far, but they have

2649
01:59:10,960 --> 01:59:14,200
Speaker 5: the ability to use him. They made a trade to

2650
01:59:14,240 --> 01:59:18,040
Speaker 5: get Hassan Reddick. Now he's pouting and holding out for

2651
01:59:18,520 --> 01:59:22,720
Speaker 5: a contract. Okay, But just like the depth of talent,

2652
01:59:23,040 --> 01:59:24,720
Speaker 5: Like I'm not talking about what it's going to end

2653
01:59:24,800 --> 01:59:28,000
Speaker 5: up being, but like you look at the different options

2654
01:59:28,040 --> 01:59:30,640
Speaker 5: that they have and that Tac McKinley is a guy

2655
01:59:30,720 --> 01:59:33,680
Speaker 5: who's sort of bounced around the league and been a disappointment.

2656
01:59:34,320 --> 01:59:37,840
Speaker 5: He's like the fifth guy, like another former first round

2657
01:59:37,880 --> 01:59:41,480
Speaker 5: pick who that's perfect Belichick kind of signing like been

2658
01:59:41,520 --> 01:59:43,760
Speaker 5: a disappointment, But this talent that allowed him to be

2659
01:59:43,840 --> 01:59:46,480
Speaker 5: a first round pick, maybe we can tap into that.

2660
01:59:46,840 --> 01:59:48,360
Speaker 5: And they're not asking him to go out there and

2661
01:59:48,440 --> 01:59:51,000
Speaker 5: get twenty sacks. They're asking him to maybe go out

2662
01:59:51,000 --> 01:59:53,760
Speaker 5: and play five plays and see if he can do something. Now,

2663
01:59:53,840 --> 01:59:57,080
Speaker 5: maybe that role will increase with the injuries that they have,

2664
01:59:57,320 --> 02:00:00,760
Speaker 5: But I just look at you know, Anfony Jennings. Anthony

2665
02:00:00,840 --> 02:00:03,440
Speaker 5: Jennings is a run setter. He's an edgesetter. He's a

2666
02:00:03,560 --> 02:00:07,520
Speaker 5: physical linebacker who does his job. Well, yeah, but I

2667
02:00:07,560 --> 02:00:08,880
Speaker 5: don't think that's in his skill set.

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02:00:08,960 --> 02:00:11,760
Speaker 3: No, neither do I. All Right, well, I think we

2669
02:00:11,840 --> 02:00:13,560
Speaker 3: did a good job bringing the train home.

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Speaker 2: We did.

2671
02:00:15,560 --> 02:00:18,440
Speaker 3: Okay, my voice isn't great, but of course, Paul and

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02:00:18,480 --> 02:00:21,280
Speaker 3: I will be back tomorrow night, six o'clock Patriots pregame

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02:00:21,320 --> 02:00:22,040
Speaker 3: show with HOWARX?

2674
02:00:22,120 --> 02:00:23,000
Speaker 5: Will will you watch the.

2675
02:00:23,040 --> 02:00:27,480
Speaker 8: Game either Rhode Island or at home on my couch?

2676
02:00:27,800 --> 02:00:29,840
Speaker 8: Probably on my couch though monitoring it's.

2677
02:00:29,760 --> 02:00:32,440
Speaker 5: Like Ray Lewis, watch watch the playoffs the same place

2678
02:00:32,480 --> 02:00:36,000
Speaker 5: everybody else, on your couch. Well, it should be good one, folks.

2679
02:00:36,200 --> 02:00:38,400
Speaker 3: We're excited and we'll see how the Patriots due tomorrow

2680
02:00:38,400 --> 02:00:41,080
Speaker 3: and then we'll be back next Tuesday, same time, same

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02:00:41,280 --> 02:00:43,320
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02:00:44,200 --> 02:00:48,000
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2683
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02:00:54,400 --> 02:00:57,440
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