WEBVTT - 1/2/26: Zohran Touts COLLECTIVISM, Gavin MOGS JD, Ro Triggers Billionaire MELTDOWN 0:00:00.880 --> 0:00:04.520 Good morning everybody, Happy Friday, and more importantly, happy New Year, 0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:07.800 twenty twenty six. That's kind of a I don't I 0:00:07.840 --> 0:00:09.479 can't really wrap my head around that, to be honest 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:10.000 with you. 0:00:10.440 --> 0:00:12.840 Also, you clearly can't wrap your head around the dress code, 0:00:12.840 --> 0:00:15.080 which was baseball hat today, Crystal. 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:18.040 Man, I fucked up. I'm already just days into the 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:19.880 new year, already screwing everything up. 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:22.120 Your hair look's way too good for a baseball hat. 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:24.320 So that's that's the bright side. 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:24.239 You know. 0:00:24.320 --> 0:00:25.520 To be honest with you, I am a fan of 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:27.479 a baseball hat. I'm also a fan, though, I'm a 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:29.280 fan of visors, which I feel like are more of 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:32.559 like maybe early two thousands coded. But my head is 0:00:32.720 --> 0:00:35.600 very small and usually I have to wear child size 0:00:35.640 --> 0:00:37.920 baseball hat, so the visor kind of solves that for me. 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:41.000 I saw we were like planning a show in the 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:44.120 group a few weeks ago, and I saw you wearing 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:47.559 a visor, and I was like, damn, Crystal's bringing the 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:48.480 visor back. 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:50.240 Oh yeah, big fan of the visor. 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:50.919 Amazing. 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:54.640 So lots of things going on. We're going to do 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:56.480 a little bit. It's going to be not a full 0:00:56.640 --> 0:00:58.760 on show here. I don't think we're going to try 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:00.760 to keep it a little bit brief, and I was 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:03.960 telling you, yeah, right, I feel you were going to try. Yeah, 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:06.480 I feel sort of like I feel rusty. You know. 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:09.000 Just taking this little bit of time off has been nice, 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:11.400 and I think good for me to mentally reset and 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:13.360 hopefully for you guys and for the crew as well. 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:15.520 But I'm also like, do I still know how to 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:15.880 do this? 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:18.520 You're doing great, Crystal? 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:24.720 In the comments, you decide, is she still going to 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:25.119 do this? 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:25.920 That's right? 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:26.920 Should I just hang it up? 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:27.360 Give up? 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:29.080 That's it? Over? 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:34.400 Any big resolutions this year, y'all before we begin, I haven't. 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:39.280 You know, I've I haven't really been a big resolution person. 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:42.520 Usually what I do is during this time period I 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:44.880 try to think about, like what are going to be 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:50.680 the big not just stories, but consequential events of the year. 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:54.000 And you know, last year, I really was thinking a 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:55.680 lot about AI, and I would say this year, I'm 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:58.800 still thinking a lot about AI. So I've kind of, 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:02.640 I guess, recommitted myself to I was also just talking 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:04.560 to it about this to see if I can have 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:07.280 less of just a doumer view of it and more 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:11.360 of an aspirational like Okay, if this is coming, because 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:15.920 I think it's very difficult to halt completely, what could 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:18.560 we do that would make sure that the benefits are 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:21.160 shared and that this isn't the end of democracy? That 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:24.080 this isn't you know, the start of truly authoritarian like 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:26.480 power consolidated in the hands of a handful of people, 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:29.280 and people tossed down of jobs and just this utterly 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:32.840 dystopian future, Like what is another envisioning of that? And 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:36.320 I think it does make sense, like what Bernie's proposing, 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:39.160 to sort of slow things down while people wrap their 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:42.200 heads around and while that democratic process plays out, while that, 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:46.920 you know, inspiration and ideas are percolating. But I'm trying to, 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:49.320 you know, to try on less of a dumer mentality 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:51.560 and more of like, okay, well, if this is coming, 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:55.000 what could we do that would if there if they 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:58.119 want to rewrite the social contract, Like what does that 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:00.679 look like in a way that's actual beneficial? 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:04.760 And what about you? What's your resolution this year? 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:09.519 This is like very hard to follow Crystal's thoughtful point there, 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:13.560 I don't really make resolute. I tried not to think 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:19.320 about the new year in terms of like opening or 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:22.200 like opening another chapter or anything like that. It's hard 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:27.240 not to, but I don't really have any anything to say. 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:31.560 I do remember Crystal saying this last year, and immediately 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:36.600 I feel like your coverage became super, super helpful because 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:39.560 you were literally doing the reading and going deep on 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:42.320 it and brought that lens to the kind of news 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:43.240 of the day stories. 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:45.800 So maybe I should take a page out of your book. 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:50.120 Emily's resolved to mog on more bitches this new. 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:52.960 Year about the physiognomy. 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:56.960 Yeah, and like, you know what, I like, I lacked 0:03:56.960 --> 0:04:02.960 a scientific understanding of Sydney sweeney is facial symmetry and 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:07.920 that I've realized that's a serious error on my part, 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:09.320 and I pledge. 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:09.560 To do better. 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:12.640 You know, even as a Sydney Sweeney critic, I really 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:16.240 hadn't explored the ways in which she's quote unquote malformed. 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:17.560 See you didn't get. 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:20.400 To the orbital Yeah, you didn't say any of that, 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:21.800 which was neglectful. 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:24.640 Griffin, do you have a resolution? 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:29.880 My resolution was to investigate more more fraud into the podcast, 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:31.040 like Breaking Points. 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:35.240 So expect a camera crew knocking out. 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:37.960 Showing up at places and demanding to see their children. 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:40.920 We tape in the mornings here at breaking points. So 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:42.600 I'm gonna show up in the afternoons with the camera 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:44.760 crew being like, where's Crystal, Where's Sager? They're not here, 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:48.800 No show job. Let's look to the future. Let's get 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:50.760 to the news, folks. It's a brand new year, and 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:54.520 let's turn our eyes to New York City, where Zora 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:57.320 Mamdani has been sworn in as mayor. Let's take a 0:04:57.360 --> 0:05:00.719 quick listen to a clip that's been getting some action. 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:01.520 Long. 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:06.159 These communities have existed as distinct from one another. We 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:10.200 will draw this city closer together. We will replace the 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:14.400 frigidity of rugged individualism with the warmth of collectivism. 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:15.440 Yeah. 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:20.560 Campaign demonstrated that the people of New York yearn for solidarity, 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:24.520 then let this government foster it, because no matter what 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:29.040 you eat, how you pray, or where you come from, 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:31.880 the words that most define us are the two we 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:32.640 all share. 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:34.160 New Yorkers. 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:41.279 Well, all right, that was a taste from the inauguration. 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:44.600 Crystal was so amazed by that she ran to New 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:45.480 York City. 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:49.320 To adjust that and also to let the cat in. 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:50.560 Hop on the antrack. 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:54.360 But Big Day Bernie was part of the inaugural ceremony. 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:59.520 Zoron was sworn in in the old subway in the 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:03.120 New York City with his wife, and what do we 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:04.279 make this, guys? 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:08.520 I mean to me, it's extremely helpful, Like that line 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:11.240 is so funny because I think it was very intentionally 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:14.119 put in to spark a hole like oh my god, collectivism, 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:18.080 like what's going on and sharia law and communism and whatever, 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:19.600 which is kind of a funny. 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:20.760 You know. 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:22.760 It's kind of the sort of thing that the writer 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:25.440 is been pulling lately, like let me intentionally touch the 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:27.520 hot stove and make people react to it. And he 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:31.080 certainly got that. He certainly got that reaction. But you know, 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:35.680 there's a few things. There's just the portrait of Bernie 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:41.320 there swearing him in the official ceremony AOC there as well, 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:47.840 So Bernie being so amazing photo Bernie just like delighted 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:52.000 mouth escape with Eric Adams looking very stern above him. 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:57.240 Great new mittens and blanket photo but this time a happy. 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:58.600 One, but this time delighted. 0:06:58.720 --> 0:06:59.000 Yeah. 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:01.320 And so to see him kind of in a sense 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:04.680 like passing the torch built to Zoron and AOC who 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:06.840 may be you know, a contender in twenty twenty eight 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:09.520 presidential or at least maybe running for the Senate against 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:15.040 Chuck Schumer was to me very poignant, and I think 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:20.800 Zoron not only he really has a lot of intentionality 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:23.960 around the symbols that he chooses. So you mentioned the 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:30.840 initial swearing in happened in this sort of iconic subway 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:34.760 shuttered subway stop under City Hall that is really beautiful, 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:37.120 and you know, came from a time period when it 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:39.320 was like, we're going to invest in public goods and 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:41.680 we're going to make them really beautiful and really nice, 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:43.440 and we're going to put thought and care into it. 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:47.760 So that was a very thoughtful choice. Immediately after his 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:52.240 swearing in, he goes to a red stabilized apartment building 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:55.640 where the landlord has completely neglected. It's falling apart, roaches 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:59.160 are coming in, pipes are rusted, tiles are falling apart, 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:02.360 et cetera. That's where he chooses to not only tour 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:05.920 the facility and to champion their cause and put official 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:09.480 resources towards it, but also to sign his initial executive orders. 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:13.520 I know he was. He arrived at the inauguration in 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:16.720 a cab that was driven by a taxi cab driver 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:20.000 who had previously done a hunger protest alongside so or on. 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:23.800 So he just he's thought a lot about how to 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:26.960 signal this is a different administration and it's being run 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:29.680 for a different group of people. He also made sure 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:33.439 in his speech to say, like, look, I was advised 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:36.440 that now's the time to lower expectations, to do the 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:39.200 like you know campaign and what's the thing campaign and 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:42.400 poetry governan pros or whatever, but anyway to set the 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:45.040 expectation smaller. He's like, I'm not going to do that. 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:47.200 We are going to get out there and try and 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:49.480 we may not always succeed, but we're going to think 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:52.160 big and we're going to dream big. So you know, 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:53.640 now the proof is going to be in the pudding. 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:56.000 And I think he's well aware that the eyes of 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:57.959 not just New York City, but the eyes of the 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:00.480 nation are really on him whether this is or not, 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:02.920 because this is the test. Now he will be held 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:05.480 up of the as the example of like can the 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:09.000 left govern or? Are these just sort of like these 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:13.200 utopian pie in the sky ideals and what comes for 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:16.480 when the rubber meets the road. They can't really deliver 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:18.920 on any of these promises, and everyone just leaves with 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:21.439 further nihilistic and with their hopes dashed. 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:31.280 I'll add that it feels like an evolution for democratic socialism. 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:36.280 And to Crystal's point about Bernie elated on stage, sort 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:39.760 of watching the torch being passed, or that's too passive 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:44.000 passing the torch. As Crystal said this, I think the 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:49.120 flavor of Mayor Mom Donnie's administration that we've seen over 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:54.199 the last twenty four hours looks like the growth into 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:58.760 a more mature political operation of democratic socialism. And I 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:02.760 don't mean upper case DA necessarily. I mean Bernie style 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:06.880 democratic socialism. And I think we all saw with AOC 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:09.679 she would probably say this, and there's a lot of. 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:14.520 This in Ryan's book. By the way, there was a surprise. 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:21.160 Among DSA types and AOC about the response I mean 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:24.680 about beating Joe Crawley, like that was very surprising. When 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:27.960 Mam Donnie beat Cuomo in the primary, very very surprising. 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:30.320 But then I think with Zora and the office is 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:34.880 so big, and he had so many months to campaign 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:38.480 after the primary against the guy he beat in the primary, 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:41.480 and that so many resources poured in. 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:43.360 It's not just like a congressional seat. 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:45.520 This is the mayor of New York City, and I 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:52.720 think there's just been this deluge of concerted strategic thought 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:55.960 that's gone into what this looks like. And we've seen 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:58.440 that over the last twenty four hours. We're getting a 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:01.440 I think a glimpse that this is going to be. 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:03.320 I mean, it sounds obvious to say it, but it's 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:05.640 another thing to see it. This is going to be 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:10.880 the future of the lowercase DS democratic socialist movement. And 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:13.320 just a couple of quick, kind of newsy points. I 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:17.199 liked this Joe Philipovitch tweet because I sent this. 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:20.120 In our DMS. But there were a couple of. 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:23.319 Lines where I was like, ooh, this one, for example, 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:25.720 was for too long those fluent in the good grammar 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:29.160 of civility, of deployed decorum to mask agendas of cruelty, 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:32.559 And Joe Philipovitch said, listen, I am as excited for 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:35.160 the zorn Era as the next person, but I'm begging, begging, 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:37.200 begging his speechwriters to allow him to talk like a 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:40.600 normal person and not an Oberlin freshman writing a persuasive essay. 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:42.359 I thought that was interesting because. 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:45.480 He doesn't normally talk like an Oberlin freshman writing a 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:48.960 persuasive essay, and so it was, you know, there were 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:53.120 the collectivism line. I thought, is it not my favorite 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:56.560 as a conservative? It gives me chills as a conservative. 0:11:56.559 --> 0:11:59.760 But I see what Crystal's saying that It's like, this 0:11:59.840 --> 0:12:03.600 is he wants you to know that he is touching 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:04.800 the third rail that he. 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:06.640 Has to he whipped out. 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:09.960 He whipped out like the iin Rand villain mode on 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:12.600 this speech like collectivism. 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:15.400 We're gonna so here for take it from the audience. 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:17.800 If you're a villain in an Iron Rand novel, you're 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:19.080 probably doing something right. 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:22.840 You know, it's true, true, I I you know, I 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:27.200 thought about I thought about that Jill Philipovitch tweet as well. 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:31.520 And here's what I'll say. If he it really depends 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:35.880 if he delivers on his promises or people feel like 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:38.880 he is delivering, they feel like life is getting better, 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:42.000 they feel like he's fighting for them. Then I think 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:46.520 it's fine to lean into this very like intellectual level, 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:52.080 you know, grown up level of campaign rhetoric. And I 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:55.360 sort of disagree that this is different than his normal mode. 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:57.840 He certainly has the ability to just like talk to 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:00.160 people and come off as a normal person, which is 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:02.680 really good and kind of unusual for a democrat of 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:07.600 any any flavor. But when he does prepared speeches, he 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:10.680 uses this kind of elevated rhetoric. I didn't see this 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:13.240 as the first time. Now. What I did note is 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:16.720 the tone was like, oh, now now that I've won, 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:20.920 like I'm letting my like socialist freak flag fly. Yeah, 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:24.120 like I'm letting it all out like this, this is 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:25.640 how it's going to be, and you guys are going 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:27.040 to eat it up and you're gonna see what we're 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:30.000 going to deliver. That I did see, But in terms 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:32.560 of the sort of like you know, elevated rhetoric and 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:35.480 his approach to that, that to me felt consistent with 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:39.560 other prepared speeches he gives, and even you know, when 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:44.559 he speaks on in TV news interviews, et cetera, he 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:49.000 does reach for sort of more more flowery language. And 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:52.000 like I said, I think it just matters. If he 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:54.040 can deliver, then people are going to love him and 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:56.520 love all the aspects of him. And if he can't 0:13:56.960 --> 0:14:00.040 and if you know, the administrations is a shambles and 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:02.080 can't deliver on any of the key promises, it doesn't 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:04.040 feel like he's fighting for those key promises then I 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:07.440 think it's going to land very hollow and overwrought. 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:10.439 Yeah, yeah, that sounds I know, I think that's true. 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:14.120 But but that to me is interesting as the This 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:17.400 is one thing that I think AOC did well and 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:20.240 poorly when she first entered the scene was that it 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:23.200 was like, sometimes it did sound like the Oberlin freshman, 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:26.720 and then sometimes she's really good at talking like just 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:29.240 the bartender and well Kart. 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:32.280 Yeah. I was just gonna say where I distinguish is 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:36.040 she used a lot of the academic language around, like 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:39.520 intersectionality and that sort of stuff, whereas Zoran's you know, 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:41.640 I watched this whole speech and I read the transcript 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:46.520 again this morning. It's very grounded in class politics. So 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:49.560 in that way, just on a substantive level, it's different 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:51.520 from you know, some of the critiques I also had 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:53.880 of of AOC's language at a certain time, although now 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:56.680 I think that she is also a pretty effective communicator. 0:14:57.600 --> 0:14:59.800 The other thing that people are freaking out about is 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:02.040 this is kind of kind of clever in a way. 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:06.760 So Zorn rescinded all of the Eric Adams executive orders 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:11.160 from after he was indicted for fraud because he said, look, 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:13.240 this is when he lost the trust in New York City, 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:16.840 So anything after that time is being swept out. And 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:20.480 a number of those executive orders had to do with 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:22.880 like pro Israel stuff. So one was like some sort 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:25.960 of a ban on bds, and the other one was 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:29.120 the codifying of this definition of anti Semitism that conflates 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:32.920 anti Zionism with anti Semitism. And so rather than just 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:37.120 like targeting those specific pro Israel executive orders, he's like, no, no, no, 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:39.400 all the stuff that was done after he was indicted 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:43.640 for corruption, all of that is being tossed aside. And 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:46.440 of course the like you know, the the more like 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:49.280 right wing Zionist types are freaking out about these particular 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:52.000 executive orders, and so oh look, see Zara's already coming 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:54.640 for the Jews or whatever. But but you know, I 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:58.720 think anyone who listened to how he campaigned would say, 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:02.120 he certainly has a mandate to make the government of 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:06.400 New York more neutral to Israel then, you know, certainly 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:08.640 than Eric Adams and other New York City mayors have 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:10.560 positioned the government in the past. 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:13.960 And we've got some polling here, mom, Donnie is up 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:17.880 five in national net favorability in this New York Politics 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:22.120 poll was negative fourteen. In September, we got AOC plus 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:26.040 one here as well, Hochel down six, Trump down twenty, 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:29.920 Adams down twenty three, and Cuomo at the bottom here negative. 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:33.240 Adam's more popular than CMA. So funny. 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:34.440 They should have run him again. 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:36.320 They should have run Erica. 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:39.520 Yeah, me and Emily have been saying this for so long. Yeah, 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:39.880 he was. 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:41.680 Still gonna lose, though. I mean, he had the lowest 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:45.360 favorability rating of any mayor in New York City's history. 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:48.520 So I don't think there was any stop in the zoomentum. 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:50.600 No, there was no stopping the zoo. 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:52.640 But that's I mean, I think just the point that 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:55.800 you made, Crystal is when you look at how democratic 0:16:55.920 --> 0:17:01.000 socialism surged in America's populist moment around ten years ago. 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:02.480 Now it's twenty twenty six. 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:06.040 So twenty sixteen, that's crazy. We're exactly a decade out 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:11.480 from Bernie surge. It has clearly gone back to something 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:13.320 that looks a lot more like what Bernie would have 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:16.840 had it look like had those I mean, there's this 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:19.960 this moment where Bernie is campaign in twenty sixteen. An 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:22.280 activist sees the microphone from him, and he sort of 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:27.440 seeds the spot and it's very academic, jargony type language. 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:30.520 And so I do think that what we're seeing right 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:35.760 now is a smarter, more mature, you know, ten year 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:39.080 in project. And if you're somebody who believes in the 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:44.480 democratic socialist project, you should be enormously, enormously hopeful about 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:46.280 what you saw in the last twenty four hours, which 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:53.040 was again a professional, political, concerted operation with a mature 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:56.800 strategy as to like bringing in people on a class basis. 0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:58.680 Yeah, and I think, you know, some people on the 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:01.600 left already have been and upset with the decisions that 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:03.560 are kind of you know, sort of like hard knows 0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:07.040 political tactics, like deciding not to endorse Toosa against to 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:10.120 King Jeffries, pushing him not to run in that race, 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:14.159 some of the administration choices, so you know, some of 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:18.359 those things I think as governing reality sets in, I 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:20.640 think going to be difficult for a lot of people 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:24.280 on the left to swallow, myself included. But you know, 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:26.840 I think he is trying to approach it from eyes 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:28.880 on the prize. I need to do what I got 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:30.680 to do to deliver, and that's the you know, the 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:33.680 number one, first and foremost priority. And then the last 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:35.440 thing I'll say here, which will set us up for 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:39.600 our segment on Gavin Newsom and Jade Vance, Mogging and 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:42.720 Clovicular and all of that, is as we look forward 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:45.320 to the future of our politics, we are going to 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:48.119 get a lot of answers in this year, in twenty 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:51.520 twenty six about what the future of the Democratic Party 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:55.040 is going to look like, because there are so many 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:58.360 primary challenges across the country, some of them high profile 0:18:58.400 --> 0:19:00.840 that we've spoken about, some of them under the radar 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:03.320 that we haven't spoken about, and that we don't even 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:07.040 know about. There are so many contests which are being 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:10.439 set up right now just in the Democratic primaries that 0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:12.960 are really going to set the tone for what the 0:19:13.000 --> 0:19:15.480 future of this party is. Are they going to hang 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:19.600 on to the neoliberal let's try to preserve the institutions, 0:19:19.680 --> 0:19:21.880 let's try to cling to the status quo and modestly 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:25.720 improve it, or are we going in a more radical direction. 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:27.679 I think the base is going to send some very 0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:30.239 strong messages on that point this year, which is one 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:32.440 of the things that I'm very excited for us to 0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:35.720 be able to track together. So that's going to be 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:37.240 something to watch and then of course in the general 0:19:37.280 --> 0:19:39.960 election to see you know, do these the swing that 0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:42.639 we saw in twenty twenty five towards Democrats and that 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:45.359 we've seen in these special elections where you know, people 0:19:45.400 --> 0:19:49.159 are flipping twenty points towards Democrats. Does that sustain and 0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:52.200 do we have something you know, really quite consequential in 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:54.639 terms of a wave election or you know, do we 0:19:54.680 --> 0:19:56.360 get a surprise as we have in the past when 0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:59.000 we expected wave elections and they didn't arrive. 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:04.880 Well to that point, let's mog on over to Clavicular 0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:06.960 in the twenty twenty eight race. 0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:10.280 Now, do you guys know who Clavicular is? 0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:16.200 Like I do now I'm recorded. I recorded an interview 0:20:16.200 --> 0:20:19.040 for KKF with Taylor Lorenz, who you know, I mean, 0:20:19.040 --> 0:20:22.199 it's her job to know about these characters. And she 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:25.360 said she went deep on him maybe like four months ago, 0:20:25.800 --> 0:20:28.000 and she just posted something on her channel. So I 0:20:28.040 --> 0:20:32.399 have been educated now in the clavicular full lore and 0:20:32.560 --> 0:20:33.359 origin story. 0:20:33.880 --> 0:20:36.800 So for those listeners who aren't on the algorithm, I 0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:38.520 would describe as evil TikTok. 0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:42.440 There is a man named Clavicular. 0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:45.040 He's kind of in some ways like the New young 0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:47.960