1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Good morning everybody, Happy Friday, and more importantly, happy New Year, 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. That's kind of a I don't I 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: can't really wrap my head around that, to be honest 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: with you. 5 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: Also, you clearly can't wrap your head around the dress code, 6 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: which was baseball hat today, Crystal. 7 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: Man, I fucked up. I'm already just days into the 8 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: new year, already screwing everything up. 9 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 3: Your hair look's way too good for a baseball hat. 10 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 3: So that's that's the bright side. 11 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 4: You know. 12 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I am a fan of 13 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 1: a baseball hat. I'm also a fan, though, I'm a 14 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: fan of visors, which I feel like are more of 15 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: like maybe early two thousands coded. But my head is 16 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: very small and usually I have to wear child size 17 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: baseball hat, so the visor kind of solves that for me. 18 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: I saw we were like planning a show in the 19 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: group a few weeks ago, and I saw you wearing 20 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 2: a visor, and I was like, damn, Crystal's bringing the 21 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 2: visor back. 22 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, big fan of the visor. 23 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 3: Amazing. 24 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: So lots of things going on. We're going to do 25 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: a little bit. It's going to be not a full 26 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: on show here. I don't think we're going to try 27 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: to keep it a little bit brief, and I was 28 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: telling you, yeah, right, I feel you were going to try. Yeah, 29 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: I feel sort of like I feel rusty. You know. 30 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: Just taking this little bit of time off has been nice, 31 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: and I think good for me to mentally reset and 32 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: hopefully for you guys and for the crew as well. 33 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: But I'm also like, do I still know how to 34 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: do this? 35 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 3: You're doing great, Crystal? 36 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 5: In the comments, you decide, is she still going to 37 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 5: do this? 38 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 3: That's right? 39 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: Should I just hang it up? 40 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 5: Give up? 41 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: That's it? Over? 42 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 4: Any big resolutions this year, y'all before we begin, I haven't. 43 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: You know, I've I haven't really been a big resolution person. 44 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: Usually what I do is during this time period I 45 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: try to think about, like what are going to be 46 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: the big not just stories, but consequential events of the year. 47 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: And you know, last year, I really was thinking a 48 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: lot about AI, and I would say this year, I'm 49 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: still thinking a lot about AI. So I've kind of, 50 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: I guess, recommitted myself to I was also just talking 51 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: to it about this to see if I can have 52 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: less of just a doumer view of it and more 53 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: of an aspirational like Okay, if this is coming, because 54 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: I think it's very difficult to halt completely, what could 55 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: we do that would make sure that the benefits are 56 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: shared and that this isn't the end of democracy? That 57 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: this isn't you know, the start of truly authoritarian like 58 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: power consolidated in the hands of a handful of people, 59 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: and people tossed down of jobs and just this utterly 60 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: dystopian future, Like what is another envisioning of that? And 61 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: I think it does make sense, like what Bernie's proposing, 62 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: to sort of slow things down while people wrap their 63 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: heads around and while that democratic process plays out, while that, 64 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: you know, inspiration and ideas are percolating. But I'm trying to, 65 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: you know, to try on less of a dumer mentality 66 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: and more of like, okay, well, if this is coming, 67 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: what could we do that would if there if they 68 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,119 Speaker 1: want to rewrite the social contract, Like what does that 69 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,679 Speaker 1: look like in a way that's actual beneficial? 70 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 5: And what about you? What's your resolution this year? 71 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 2: This is like very hard to follow Crystal's thoughtful point there, 72 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 2: I don't really make resolute. I tried not to think 73 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 2: about the new year in terms of like opening or 74 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 2: like opening another chapter or anything like that. It's hard 75 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 2: not to, but I don't really have any anything to say. 76 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: I do remember Crystal saying this last year, and immediately 77 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 2: I feel like your coverage became super, super helpful because 78 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 2: you were literally doing the reading and going deep on 79 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: it and brought that lens to the kind of news 80 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 2: of the day stories. 81 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 3: So maybe I should take a page out of your book. 82 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: Emily's resolved to mog on more bitches this new. 83 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 3: Year about the physiognomy. 84 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and like, you know what, I like, I lacked 85 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: a scientific understanding of Sydney sweeney is facial symmetry and 86 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 2: that I've realized that's a serious error on my part, 87 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: and I pledge. 88 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 3: To do better. 89 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: You know, even as a Sydney Sweeney critic, I really 90 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: hadn't explored the ways in which she's quote unquote malformed. 91 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 3: See you didn't get. 92 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: To the orbital Yeah, you didn't say any of that, 93 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: which was neglectful. 94 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 3: Griffin, do you have a resolution? 95 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 4: My resolution was to investigate more more fraud into the podcast, 96 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 4: like Breaking Points. 97 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 5: So expect a camera crew knocking out. 98 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: Showing up at places and demanding to see their children. 99 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 4: We tape in the mornings here at breaking points. So 100 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 4: I'm gonna show up in the afternoons with the camera 101 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 4: crew being like, where's Crystal, Where's Sager? They're not here, 102 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 4: No show job. Let's look to the future. Let's get 103 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 4: to the news, folks. It's a brand new year, and 104 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 4: let's turn our eyes to New York City, where Zora 105 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 4: Mamdani has been sworn in as mayor. Let's take a 106 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 4: quick listen to a clip that's been getting some action. 107 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: Long. 108 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 6: These communities have existed as distinct from one another. We 109 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 6: will draw this city closer together. We will replace the 110 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 6: frigidity of rugged individualism with the warmth of collectivism. 111 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 5: Yeah. 112 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 6: Campaign demonstrated that the people of New York yearn for solidarity, 113 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 6: then let this government foster it, because no matter what 114 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 6: you eat, how you pray, or where you come from, 115 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 6: the words that most define us are the two we 116 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 6: all share. 117 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 5: New Yorkers. 118 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 4: Well, all right, that was a taste from the inauguration. 119 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 4: Crystal was so amazed by that she ran to New 120 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 4: York City. 121 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: To adjust that and also to let the cat in. 122 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 5: Hop on the antrack. 123 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 4: But Big Day Bernie was part of the inaugural ceremony. 124 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 4: Zoron was sworn in in the old subway in the 125 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 4: New York City with his wife, and what do we 126 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 4: make this, guys? 127 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: I mean to me, it's extremely helpful, Like that line 128 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: is so funny because I think it was very intentionally 129 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,119 Speaker 1: put in to spark a hole like oh my god, collectivism, 130 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: like what's going on and sharia law and communism and whatever, 131 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: which is kind of a funny. 132 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 2: You know. 133 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: It's kind of the sort of thing that the writer 134 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: is been pulling lately, like let me intentionally touch the 135 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: hot stove and make people react to it. And he 136 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: certainly got that. He certainly got that reaction. But you know, 137 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: there's a few things. There's just the portrait of Bernie 138 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: there swearing him in the official ceremony AOC there as well, 139 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 1: So Bernie being so amazing photo Bernie just like delighted 140 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: mouth escape with Eric Adams looking very stern above him. 141 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 5: Great new mittens and blanket photo but this time a happy. 142 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: One, but this time delighted. 143 00:06:58,720 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 5: Yeah. 144 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: And so to see him kind of in a sense 145 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: like passing the torch built to Zoron and AOC who 146 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: may be you know, a contender in twenty twenty eight 147 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: presidential or at least maybe running for the Senate against 148 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer was to me very poignant, and I think 149 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: Zoron not only he really has a lot of intentionality 150 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: around the symbols that he chooses. So you mentioned the 151 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: initial swearing in happened in this sort of iconic subway 152 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: shuttered subway stop under City Hall that is really beautiful, 153 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: and you know, came from a time period when it 154 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: was like, we're going to invest in public goods and 155 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: we're going to make them really beautiful and really nice, 156 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: and we're going to put thought and care into it. 157 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: So that was a very thoughtful choice. Immediately after his 158 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: swearing in, he goes to a red stabilized apartment building 159 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: where the landlord has completely neglected. It's falling apart, roaches 160 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: are coming in, pipes are rusted, tiles are falling apart, 161 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: et cetera. That's where he chooses to not only tour 162 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: the facility and to champion their cause and put official 163 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: resources towards it, but also to sign his initial executive orders. 164 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: I know he was. He arrived at the inauguration in 165 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: a cab that was driven by a taxi cab driver 166 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: who had previously done a hunger protest alongside so or on. 167 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: So he just he's thought a lot about how to 168 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: signal this is a different administration and it's being run 169 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: for a different group of people. He also made sure 170 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 1: in his speech to say, like, look, I was advised 171 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: that now's the time to lower expectations, to do the 172 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: like you know campaign and what's the thing campaign and 173 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: poetry governan pros or whatever, but anyway to set the 174 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: expectation smaller. He's like, I'm not going to do that. 175 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: We are going to get out there and try and 176 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: we may not always succeed, but we're going to think 177 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: big and we're going to dream big. So you know, 178 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: now the proof is going to be in the pudding. 179 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: And I think he's well aware that the eyes of 180 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 1: not just New York City, but the eyes of the 181 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: nation are really on him whether this is or not, 182 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: because this is the test. Now he will be held 183 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: up of the as the example of like can the 184 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: left govern or? Are these just sort of like these 185 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: utopian pie in the sky ideals and what comes for 186 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: when the rubber meets the road. They can't really deliver 187 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: on any of these promises, and everyone just leaves with 188 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 1: further nihilistic and with their hopes dashed. 189 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 2: I'll add that it feels like an evolution for democratic socialism. 190 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 2: And to Crystal's point about Bernie elated on stage, sort 191 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 2: of watching the torch being passed, or that's too passive 192 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 2: passing the torch. As Crystal said this, I think the 193 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 2: flavor of Mayor Mom Donnie's administration that we've seen over 194 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 2: the last twenty four hours looks like the growth into 195 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 2: a more mature political operation of democratic socialism. And I 196 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: don't mean upper case DA necessarily. I mean Bernie style 197 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 2: democratic socialism. And I think we all saw with AOC 198 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 2: she would probably say this, and there's a lot of. 199 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 3: This in Ryan's book. By the way, there was a surprise. 200 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 2: Among DSA types and AOC about the response I mean 201 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 2: about beating Joe Crawley, like that was very surprising. When 202 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 2: Mam Donnie beat Cuomo in the primary, very very surprising. 203 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 2: But then I think with Zora and the office is 204 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 2: so big, and he had so many months to campaign 205 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 2: after the primary against the guy he beat in the primary, 206 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 2: and that so many resources poured in. 207 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 3: It's not just like a congressional seat. 208 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 2: This is the mayor of New York City, and I 209 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 2: think there's just been this deluge of concerted strategic thought 210 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 2: that's gone into what this looks like. And we've seen 211 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 2: that over the last twenty four hours. We're getting a 212 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 2: I think a glimpse that this is going to be. 213 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 2: I mean, it sounds obvious to say it, but it's 214 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 2: another thing to see it. This is going to be 215 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 2: the future of the lowercase DS democratic socialist movement. And 216 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 2: just a couple of quick, kind of newsy points. I 217 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 2: liked this Joe Philipovitch tweet because I sent this. 218 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 3: In our DMS. But there were a couple of. 219 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 2: Lines where I was like, ooh, this one, for example, 220 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 2: was for too long those fluent in the good grammar 221 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 2: of civility, of deployed decorum to mask agendas of cruelty, 222 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 2: And Joe Philipovitch said, listen, I am as excited for 223 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 2: the zorn Era as the next person, but I'm begging, begging, 224 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 2: begging his speechwriters to allow him to talk like a 225 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 2: normal person and not an Oberlin freshman writing a persuasive essay. 226 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:42,359 Speaker 3: I thought that was interesting because. 227 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 2: He doesn't normally talk like an Oberlin freshman writing a 228 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 2: persuasive essay, and so it was, you know, there were 229 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 2: the collectivism line. I thought, is it not my favorite 230 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 2: as a conservative? It gives me chills as a conservative. 231 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 2: But I see what Crystal's saying that It's like, this 232 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 2: is he wants you to know that he is touching 233 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 2: the third rail that he. 234 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 5: Has to he whipped out. 235 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 4: He whipped out like the iin Rand villain mode on 236 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 4: this speech like collectivism. 237 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 5: We're gonna so here for take it from the audience. 238 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 2: If you're a villain in an Iron Rand novel, you're 239 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 2: probably doing something right. 240 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: You know, it's true, true, I I you know, I 241 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: thought about I thought about that Jill Philipovitch tweet as well. 242 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: And here's what I'll say. If he it really depends 243 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: if he delivers on his promises or people feel like 244 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: he is delivering, they feel like life is getting better, 245 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: they feel like he's fighting for them. Then I think 246 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: it's fine to lean into this very like intellectual level, 247 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: you know, grown up level of campaign rhetoric. And I 248 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: sort of disagree that this is different than his normal mode. 249 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: He certainly has the ability to just like talk to 250 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: people and come off as a normal person, which is 251 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: really good and kind of unusual for a democrat of 252 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: any any flavor. But when he does prepared speeches, he 253 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 1: uses this kind of elevated rhetoric. I didn't see this 254 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: as the first time. Now. What I did note is 255 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: the tone was like, oh, now now that I've won, 256 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: like I'm letting my like socialist freak flag fly. Yeah, 257 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: like I'm letting it all out like this, this is 258 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: how it's going to be, and you guys are going 259 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: to eat it up and you're gonna see what we're 260 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: going to deliver. That I did see, But in terms 261 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: of the sort of like you know, elevated rhetoric and 262 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: his approach to that, that to me felt consistent with 263 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: other prepared speeches he gives, and even you know, when 264 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 1: he speaks on in TV news interviews, et cetera, he 265 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: does reach for sort of more more flowery language. And 266 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: like I said, I think it just matters. If he 267 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: can deliver, then people are going to love him and 268 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: love all the aspects of him. And if he can't 269 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 1: and if you know, the administrations is a shambles and 270 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: can't deliver on any of the key promises, it doesn't 271 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: feel like he's fighting for those key promises then I 272 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: think it's going to land very hollow and overwrought. 273 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that sounds I know, I think that's true. 274 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 2: But but that to me is interesting as the This 275 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 2: is one thing that I think AOC did well and 276 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 2: poorly when she first entered the scene was that it 277 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 2: was like, sometimes it did sound like the Oberlin freshman, 278 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 2: and then sometimes she's really good at talking like just 279 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 2: the bartender and well Kart. 280 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. I was just gonna say where I distinguish is 281 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: she used a lot of the academic language around, like 282 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: intersectionality and that sort of stuff, whereas Zoran's you know, 283 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: I watched this whole speech and I read the transcript 284 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: again this morning. It's very grounded in class politics. So 285 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: in that way, just on a substantive level, it's different 286 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: from you know, some of the critiques I also had 287 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: of of AOC's language at a certain time, although now 288 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: I think that she is also a pretty effective communicator. 289 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: The other thing that people are freaking out about is 290 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: this is kind of kind of clever in a way. 291 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: So Zorn rescinded all of the Eric Adams executive orders 292 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: from after he was indicted for fraud because he said, look, 293 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: this is when he lost the trust in New York City, 294 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: So anything after that time is being swept out. And 295 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: a number of those executive orders had to do with 296 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: like pro Israel stuff. So one was like some sort 297 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: of a ban on bds, and the other one was 298 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: the codifying of this definition of anti Semitism that conflates 299 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: anti Zionism with anti Semitism. And so rather than just 300 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: like targeting those specific pro Israel executive orders, he's like, no, no, no, 301 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: all the stuff that was done after he was indicted 302 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: for corruption, all of that is being tossed aside. And 303 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: of course the like you know, the the more like 304 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: right wing Zionist types are freaking out about these particular 305 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: executive orders, and so oh look, see Zara's already coming 306 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: for the Jews or whatever. But but you know, I 307 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: think anyone who listened to how he campaigned would say, 308 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: he certainly has a mandate to make the government of 309 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: New York more neutral to Israel then, you know, certainly 310 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: than Eric Adams and other New York City mayors have 311 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: positioned the government in the past. 312 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 4: And we've got some polling here, mom, Donnie is up 313 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 4: five in national net favorability in this New York Politics 314 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 4: poll was negative fourteen. In September, we got AOC plus 315 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 4: one here as well, Hochel down six, Trump down twenty, 316 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 4: Adams down twenty three, and Cuomo at the bottom here negative. 317 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: Adam's more popular than CMA. So funny. 318 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 5: They should have run him again. 319 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 3: They should have run Erica. 320 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, me and Emily have been saying this for so long. Yeah, 321 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 5: he was. 322 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: Still gonna lose, though. I mean, he had the lowest 323 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: favorability rating of any mayor in New York City's history. 324 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: So I don't think there was any stop in the zoomentum. 325 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 3: No, there was no stopping the zoo. 326 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 2: But that's I mean, I think just the point that 327 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 2: you made, Crystal is when you look at how democratic 328 00:16:55,920 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 2: socialism surged in America's populist moment around ten years ago. 329 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 3: Now it's twenty twenty six. 330 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 2: So twenty sixteen, that's crazy. We're exactly a decade out 331 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 2: from Bernie surge. It has clearly gone back to something 332 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 2: that looks a lot more like what Bernie would have 333 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 2: had it look like had those I mean, there's this 334 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 2: this moment where Bernie is campaign in twenty sixteen. An 335 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: activist sees the microphone from him, and he sort of 336 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 2: seeds the spot and it's very academic, jargony type language. 337 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 2: And so I do think that what we're seeing right 338 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 2: now is a smarter, more mature, you know, ten year 339 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 2: in project. And if you're somebody who believes in the 340 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 2: democratic socialist project, you should be enormously, enormously hopeful about 341 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 2: what you saw in the last twenty four hours, which 342 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 2: was again a professional, political, concerted operation with a mature 343 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 2: strategy as to like bringing in people on a class basis. 344 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think, you know, some people on the 345 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: left already have been and upset with the decisions that 346 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: are kind of you know, sort of like hard knows 347 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: political tactics, like deciding not to endorse Toosa against to 348 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 1: King Jeffries, pushing him not to run in that race, 349 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: some of the administration choices, so you know, some of 350 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: those things I think as governing reality sets in, I 351 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 1: think going to be difficult for a lot of people 352 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: on the left to swallow, myself included. But you know, 353 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: I think he is trying to approach it from eyes 354 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: on the prize. I need to do what I got 355 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: to do to deliver, and that's the you know, the 356 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: number one, first and foremost priority. And then the last 357 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: thing I'll say here, which will set us up for 358 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: our segment on Gavin Newsom and Jade Vance, Mogging and 359 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: Clovicular and all of that, is as we look forward 360 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: to the future of our politics, we are going to 361 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: get a lot of answers in this year, in twenty 362 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: twenty six about what the future of the Democratic Party 363 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: is going to look like, because there are so many 364 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 1: primary challenges across the country, some of them high profile 365 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: that we've spoken about, some of them under the radar 366 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: that we haven't spoken about, and that we don't even 367 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: know about. There are so many contests which are being 368 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 1: set up right now just in the Democratic primaries that 369 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: are really going to set the tone for what the 370 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: future of this party is. Are they going to hang 371 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: on to the neoliberal let's try to preserve the institutions, 372 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 1: let's try to cling to the status quo and modestly 373 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: improve it, or are we going in a more radical direction. 374 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 1: I think the base is going to send some very 375 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,239 Speaker 1: strong messages on that point this year, which is one 376 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: of the things that I'm very excited for us to 377 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: be able to track together. So that's going to be 378 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: something to watch and then of course in the general 379 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: election to see you know, do these the swing that 380 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 1: we saw in twenty twenty five towards Democrats and that 381 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: we've seen in these special elections where you know, people 382 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 1: are flipping twenty points towards Democrats. Does that sustain and 383 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: do we have something you know, really quite consequential in 384 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: terms of a wave election or you know, do we 385 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 1: get a surprise as we have in the past when 386 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: we expected wave elections and they didn't arrive. 387 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 4: Well to that point, let's mog on over to Clavicular 388 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 4: in the twenty twenty eight race. 389 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 5: Now, do you guys know who Clavicular is? 390 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: Like I do now I'm recorded. I recorded an interview 391 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: for KKF with Taylor Lorenz, who you know, I mean, 392 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 1: it's her job to know about these characters. And she 393 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 1: said she went deep on him maybe like four months ago, 394 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: and she just posted something on her channel. So I 395 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: have been educated now in the clavicular full lore and 396 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: origin story. 397 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 4: So for those listeners who aren't on the algorithm, I 398 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 4: would describe as evil TikTok. 399 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 5: There is a man named Clavicular. 400 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 4: He's kind of in some ways like the New young 401 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 4: Andrew Tate and that he is sort of a male 402 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 4: icon for younger men. But this guy, ye, well for 403 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 4: this group, for enough enough people that we're talking about 404 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 4: him now and that he's on shows. Yeah, he is 405 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 4: a looks maxer, which means he would take rocks or 406 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 4: pebbles and hit them on his jaw to bruise his 407 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 4: bones to make them stronger to I guess he believes 408 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 4: give him a stronger jaw line to become more of 409 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 4: an alpha Chad. He also does a medley of drugs 410 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 4: to keep his figure, including like low grade amounts of 411 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 4: meth uh. He does obviously all the other gender affirming 412 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 4: care trt He is, in a lot of ways trance 413 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 4: so to male, he's male to male. 414 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's male to alpha male. Y. 415 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, so there's. 416 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: Good I should say. And actually this is just to 417 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: help people understand how extreme the things that he does are. 418 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 1: He's been taking some form of like steroids from the 419 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: time he was fourteen, and he's actually sterile now because 420 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: of what he has taken. So yeah, his yeah, I 421 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: mean he talks about this publicly. This isn't news, and 422 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: so his whole his whole thing is this very nihilistic 423 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: sort of in cell pick up artist adjacent philosophy of 424 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: the world is screwed. It's very hard to get ahead. 425 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: The deck is stacked against you. And the best thing 426 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 1: that you could do to be able to get women 427 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: and have some sort of success is to look smax. 428 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: To take these extreme like the ethos of the bodybuilding 429 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: world and apply that not just to your body but 430 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: also to your face. 431 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 5: American Psycho Garnish on top. 432 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I I was gonna say, it's very it's 433 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 2: very niche, and that's the like underpinning of American Psycho, 434 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 2: this idea that you can be the superman. 435 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 3: And Rodrere has been talking about. 436 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 2: How we're in Ymar America, but this is actually like 437 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 2: and his has a totally different take on well actually 438 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 2: maybe not that different, but on uh, anti Semitism and 439 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 2: all of that. But when he's talking about Wymar America, 440 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 2: he particularly zeroed in the other day on Clovicular and 441 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 2: was like, this is so dangerous because you're getting into 442 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 2: a place where the Fringes are now prouder and prouder 443 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 2: about reducing people to their physical worth, and it's very 444 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 2: eugen it's extraordinarily eugenicsy and he this was like last 445 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 2: year the rights viral fight was over H one B's. 446 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 2: This year it was Michael Knowles having clivicular on and 447 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 2: just like dead ass asking him about JD. 448 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 3: Vance. And that's where Griffin. 449 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 5: Which we got a clip, which we got a clip 450 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 5: right here, let's take a look. 451 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 7: Yeah. 452 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 8: But I mean, like this next election cycle, who's going 453 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 8: to win? It's going to be Gavin Newsome against JD. 454 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 8: Vance because JD Vance is ub human and Gavin Newsom 455 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 8: ogg'stance as subhuman. 456 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 3: What makes you say that? 457 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,239 Speaker 8: Uh, he's got a very short total of facial wit 458 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 8: the height ratio, he's a very resessed side profile, whereas 459 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 8: Newsom is like six' to Three, Chad. 460 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 9: So You're JD's Very JD's got to be Sell. 461 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 5: Gavin newsom Obviously mogson to. Death SO i prefer to 462 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 5: the vice. President i'm just telling you who's gonna? Win 463 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 5: do you prefer him? 464 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 3: Them, honestly. 465 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 8: It's it's hard to, say But newsome being that much 466 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 8: more of a, mauger and like having a president who's 467 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 8: like fat and especially. 468 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 5: That, young do you think HE'S i don't think he's. 469 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 5: FAIR i would say he's a bigger. 470 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 8: Guy for. 471 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 5: Sure he's just like. 472 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 8: It's just, embarrassing, like how are you you? Fat and 473 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 8: you expect to like lead a country you can't even 474 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 8: be you, know so you like you got let's say 475 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 8: you've got to. 476 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 9: Vote it's twenty Eight i'm voting, Now Gavin. 477 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 5: Newsom you're ready For gavin News you can't be That. 478 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 5: Hanby that's up Human. 479 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 2: See you got all? 480 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 9: Right, well this actually is of a thread with the 481 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 9: whole conversation because you look at these two. Candids you 482 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 9: Have Gavin, newsom worst governor in the. COUNTRY i think 483 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 9: we would all, agree destroyed his, state let its main 484 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 9: city burn to the ground because of his. Incompetence is a, personal, complete, derelict, liar. 485 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 9: Degenerate but he is good. Looking i'll grant you. That 486 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 9: he's good looking and kind of looks Like Patrick, Bateman american. 487 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 9: Psycho and then and then you have this vice president 488 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,719 Speaker 9: To President, trump the transformative right wing president in our. 489 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 9: Lifetimes who do you Support trump or? 490 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 2: No? 491 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, okay so you got and you got this vice 492 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 9: president hand picked By, trump who is extremely, intelligent very right. 493 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 9: WING i think he's a pretty good looking. GUY i don't, 494 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 9: know MAYBE i guess you, Disagree but is all these things, 495 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 9: checks all these boxes would have all these great, policies 496 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 9: and regardless you're going to pick the pro mass, migrant 497 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 9: pro trans pro murder the, babies pro burn the cities 498 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 9: to the, ground PRO, blm demo crat because he's skinnier 499 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 9: than the conservative vice. 500 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 5: President one hundred times. Over i'm you, Know i'm so 501 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 5: mad At. 502 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 4: SAGER i tried to Get sager to do this interview 503 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 4: and he was, like, NO i don't know. 504 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 5: If we should do. It. 505 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: Interview they could have Been sager getting mogged on The 506 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: Soger mogg the there you, go there's. Okay so there's 507 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 1: a lot that's interesting about. This first of, All Michael 508 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: knowle's doing this interview to start With Daily wire's not doing. 509 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: Well you, know they're losing subscribers and because people are 510 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: going bored to these type of. Characters so the choice 511 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 1: to do this, INTERVIEW i think is in a, sense 512 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: in a sense like an attempt to maintain relevance and be, like, 513 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 1: Look I'm i'm down with, these you know, characters these 514 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 1: new kid, streamers Like i'm good with. 515 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 4: This and Then goles is pretty good at that in 516 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 4: particular on The Daily, wire Like shapiro is not really, 517 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 4: evolving But roles is kind of getting out. 518 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: There but but, yeah SO i, mean but then you, 519 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: know it's this conversation doesn't like go that well for. 520 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: Him and it's funny BECAUSE i watched most of the whole, 521 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 1: thing and it's Like clovicular is sort of taking to 522 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 1: the logical extreme some of the arguments that people Like 523 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 1: Michael knowles has been. Making so there's been this whole 524 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: thing on the ride about like beauty and beauty is not, 525 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: subjective it's not an eye of the. Beholder it is 526 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: a like established. Fact and also like playing with these 527 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: sort of like eugenics type, ideas and so, yeah For 528 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: clavicular to go to the logical extreme of, like, Yeah 529 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: Gavin newsom looks Like Ai slop of The Aryan chad 530 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 1: with the Perfect aryan. Family that's my. Guy and and 531 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: we should also Say clavicular ohs in some sense his 532 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 1: rise To nick fuent has like they're also very like 533 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: adjacent and friendly. Creators fuentez and The gropers also hate 534 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: Jd vance because he's a race, trader because he married 535 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: An indian woman and because he has biracial kids and 536 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 1: those things sort of like these things sort of fit 537 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: together as. Well but the other THING i, noted just 538 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: specifically about that clip is When noles first asked, him, like, 539 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: so do you Prefer Gavin, Newsom he's, like, YEAH i guess. 540 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: So but then by the end of, it when he realizes, like, 541 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: oh this is getting a rise on. Him, yeah like 542 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: he's he's like losing his mind over. This by the, 543 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: end he's, Like i'd vote for him a hundred times, 544 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: over you, know just completely like all in on. It 545 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 1: And i've seen another interview clip with him since then 546 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 1: where he's he's sort of, like, OH i was, trolling 547 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: so giving himself some wiggle room to kind of like 548 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: back out of, this But newsom is leaning into it. 549 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 1: Hard you, know there's other creators online who are also, 550 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: like you, know PEOPLE i don't even know who they, 551 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: are but other right wing creators who were, like you, 552 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: Know Jadie vance is chonky and fat it's a no for, 553 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: me and posting The Gavin Newsom chad. Photos Gavin newsom 554 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: is posting those, photos posting like ugly picks of Jad 555 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: vans from when he was, younger and pudgy er and 556 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: like didn't have the beard and. Whatever so that's that's 557 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: where we, are that's the state of our politics. 558 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:03,719 Speaker 2: Today Maybe clovicular should go To marine's boot camp and 559 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 2: then have words for J d Versus Gavin. NEWSOM i 560 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 2: think the conversation about like beauty is an interesting invocation 561 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 2: here because a lot of WHAT i, see including for 562 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:20,719 Speaker 2: myself on the, right is this question about nature and 563 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 2: how when we're in such an antiseptic like high tech, 564 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:32,959 Speaker 2: world we do lose natural some degree of natural beauty 565 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 2: because everything is. Artifice everything is being constructed in less 566 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 2: and less natural. 567 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 3: Ways not, everything but you, know the metaverse. 568 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 2: Was all we were talking about The New, year what 569 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 2: like five years ago, something, yeah five years ago something like. 570 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 5: That but. 571 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 2: With that in, Mind clavicular is TOTALLY i think making 572 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 2: the point And Gavin newsom as, well about how natural. 573 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 2: Looks you you can't like replicate Natural uh this is 574 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 2: this is so, Stupid but, like you can't replicate natural 575 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 2: good looks by hammering your jaw and injecting your face 576 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 2: with with. Fillers you can do something that looks LIKE, 577 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 2: X y OR. Z, right you could create an artifice 578 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 2: of the, natural but you. Can't actually it's it's not. 579 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 2: Natural so it doesn't look, natural and you get into 580 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 2: that uncanny. VALLEY i obviously watch a lot Of Real. 581 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 2: Housewives i'm incredibly, familiar uh with these these, efforts but 582 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 2: in all serious, yeah with the looks back from, women, 583 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 2: right but, like you, can't it's not. Natural and at 584 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,719 Speaker 2: the same, time the people Like clavicular are trying to 585 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 2: frame it as totally, natural as like this is it 586 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 2: is the nietzsche perspective that what we have is power and, 587 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 2: strength and, uh he will stop at no ends to 588 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 2: construct power and, strength even if it means and taking 589 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 2: all of these high tech, medications hammering his drug whatever it. 590 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 3: Is and it's not. 591 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 2: Attractive and, HONESTLY i think the same thing About Gavin, 592 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 2: newsom like he's just he looks Like Patrick. 593 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: Bateman well that's the thing is none of these either 594 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: jimbro trend or this Looks maxing trend or even Like 595 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: Gavin newsom as this you, know Undisputed, chad none of 596 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: these things are for the female. Gaze they're also the male. Gaze, still, 597 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: YEAH i, mean. 598 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 5: And so it's like it's. 599 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: INTERESTING i, mean it feels very sort of like, homoerotic 600 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: Because i'm, like you actually number, one you hate, women, 601 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: RIGHT i mean not all looks, maxers but many have 602 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: this total antipathy towards, women and you know talk about 603 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: women are whoes and you, know ruining our lives and 604 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: all this. Stuff, right this stuff is very adjacent to 605 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: like in cell, ideology pickup artist's, ideology Like manisphere, stuff 606 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: like it's it's all very, similar, Right so they hate, 607 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: women and then the ideal chit chad mail that they're 608 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: trying to craft is much more based on what a 609 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: man's idea of aspirational male beauty would would. Be SO 610 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: i don't, know they're. 611 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 4: Literally they're literally sar love and to this point about 612 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 4: LIKE i watched this Clip emily AND i was, Like 613 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 4: republicans are so. Screwed like they were relying on like 614 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 4: the spirit Of trump to carry them for like thirty more, 615 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 4: years and then The epstein thing, happened and now people 616 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 4: are already looking into what's next and the and no 617 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 4: one likes any of the any of the lineup behind, 618 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 4: that which is like THIS. 619 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 5: Jd gavin. Thing they're okay With, gavin and then. 620 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 4: This is Dark maha and not just the The trump 621 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 4: stuff and sort of like the future of the. Leaders 622 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 4: but this core sense Of republican conservatism was always about, family, 623 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 4: right protecting the, family and this new generation seems to 624 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 4: be transcending the need for family or like feeling, like, 625 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 4: well and IF i can't own a house or have a, 626 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 4: family why not reject the entire. Concept and Something i've 627 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 4: been seeing with conservatives, is you, know either it's clavicular 628 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 4: saying he's, sterile and. 629 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 5: He doesn't he's actually doing it for, men not. 630 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 4: Women i'm seeing people Like Asmen, gold another big conservative, 631 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 4: YouTuber SAY i will never have a girlfriend, again like 632 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 4: as a positive. Thing AND i still See Andrew, tait 633 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 4: who's been for years saying it's gay to have a. 634 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 4: Girlfriend so it seems like these like TEN c stuff, Too, 635 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 4: yeah that it's literally gay to have sex with. Women 636 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 4: and so it's like all these influencers are sitting to 637 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 4: like carve and guide out a path that's like post 638 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 4: women and like post even having any, children or you, 639 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 4: know continuing the human. 640 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 3: Race, well and that's BECAUSE i think it's. 641 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 2: Important Like tate particularly frames it as about power and, 642 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 2: strength and, again like these are ideas that are relegated 643 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 2: to The. FRENCH i mean there's there's for, now there's 644 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 2: a reason we're laughing at that interview Between knowles And 645 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 2: clovicular Because clivicular it's it's like, frontos, right that people 646 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 2: mistake the size of their audience for the size of people's. 647 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 3: Endorse they're, right, yeah. 648 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 5: Right, right, right entertain believing every word of. It they are. 649 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 2: Extremely, entertaining, Right and the reason that they're extremely entertaining 650 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 2: is because there were all of these taboos, created and 651 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 2: those taboos were getting pinned i think rightfully to the 652 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 2: left for the last. 653 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,240 Speaker 3: Ten, years and it made a lot of young men. 654 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 2: Totally miserable and vulnerable to this kind of thing and 655 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 2: wanting to just reject The what they felt like was 656 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 2: the tightening of the strictures and the status quo and 657 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 2: the cultural centers of power that they felt like we're emasculating. 658 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 2: Them and to some, extent there's truth to. That but 659 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 2: on the other, hand when you're, unmoored you are much 660 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 2: more easily like blown by the wind in one direction 661 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 2: or the. Other and it's all about, power that's What 662 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 2: that's what these guys are talking. About the end of the 663 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 2: day is like what you should value is, power and 664 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 2: that's really not funny because. 665 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 3: That could go to a very very dangerous, place very very. 666 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 1: Quickly, well and it's all about power because they are. 667 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 1: POWERLESS i, mean this is to me less about you, 668 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: know a backlash the left or, whatever Although i'm not 669 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: saying that there's none of that in. Here but this 670 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,439 Speaker 1: is about where we are in late stage, capitalism where 671 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: men have been told by society that their entire worth 672 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: comes from being able to, provide being able to make 673 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 1: money and provide for a household and a wife and you, 674 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: know kids and all of, that and then they've been 675 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: robbed of the ability to do, that and so out 676 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: of that you, know extreme place that our society has 677 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: come to with extreme wealth, inequality where there is very 678 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 1: little hope that people be able to you, know obtain 679 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 1: the even the life that their parents, had even though 680 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: some of that's huge Through rhodes colored. Glasses that's how 681 00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 1: you end up with this very nihilistic sea of extremely nihilistic. 682 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: VIEWPOINTS i, mean that's you, know that's, fantasism which is you, 683 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 1: know effectively Neo. Nazism it's it's race. Nihilism of this 684 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 1: is just how the world is we can't fix, it 685 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: we can't make it. Better we just have to deal with. 686 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 1: It it looks, nihilism where it's, like, listen if you look, 687 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 1: better you get, ahead and that's just the way the world. 688 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: Is and then create an exaggerated version actually of how 689 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 1: bad the world is because there are obviously plenty of. 690 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: PEOPLE i, Mean Donald trump is not good looking and, 691 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: fat and he's president of The United. States but you, 692 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: know so it's a caricaturist view of. Reality but rather 693 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: than having an aspiration of, like, well let's tackle, that 694 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: let's make it so that you don't just judge the 695 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 1: book by its. Cover let's make it so that there's 696 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: better opportunity for, people regardless of you, know how they 697 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 1: look on the. Outside it's, no this is how it. 698 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: Is and SO i am going to succeed by the 699 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 1: rules of this system no matter what it, takes because 700 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: there are so few other roots left open to. Me 701 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 1: and with clvicular in, particular you, know he he talks 702 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: so first of, all he says he is on the, 703 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: spectrum he's. Neurodivergent he talks about how in high school 704 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,720 Speaker 1: he had trouble fitting, in you, know had the sense 705 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: of like you, know people are getting, dates people are 706 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 1: getting invited to, parties on being left out what's going on? 707 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 1: Here and then he goes to college and he gets 708 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: kicked out in like three weeks. 709 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,240 Speaker 3: Time yeah he's nineteen by the, way, right nineteen years. 710 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 1: Old, exactly and he talks too about how he wishes 711 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: he could just go to college and be a normal college. 712 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,320 Speaker 1: Kid and it's after he gets kicked out in college 713 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: he starts being a bouncer at these NIGHTCLUBS i think In, 714 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,840 Speaker 1: miami and that's where he develops this sense of, like, 715 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,479 Speaker 1: oh the good looking guys get the. Girls that must 716 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 1: be what life is completely. About and then applies, this you, 717 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: know in his view like scientific and again very, eugenicsy you, 718 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 1: know assessment of what is beauty and how CAN i attain? 719 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: It because this must be the path. Forward so he 720 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 1: is a perfect you, know he's a perfect emblem of 721 00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 1: the hopelessness THAT i, think you, know really faces not just, 722 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: men everybody in the you, know end stage capitalistic society 723 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: that we face right. Now so it's not to deny people, 724 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 1: agency but it is to recognize that no one should 725 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: be surprised that we have these weird nihilistic fringe viewpoints 726 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 1: that are coming to the. 727 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,399 Speaker 2: Four, yeah THE I a was thinking The Latchian post 728 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 2: recently about how this is a crazy. Stat more young 729 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 2: men say they want to get married than young, women 730 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 2: and when young women are looking at young, men it 731 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 2: becomes a little bit clearer as to why young women 732 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,879 Speaker 2: are maybe saying we are going to check out of 733 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 2: this marriage. 734 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: Thing and there are some good thanks reason. 735 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 2: See, Yeah And griffin made a POINT i don't want 736 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 2: to gloss, over which is For, republicans is there a 737 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 2: kind of rhyme to what happened as we were talking 738 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 2: about earlier in the, show back in twenty sixteen and then, 739 00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 2: beyond especially twenty twenty For democrats where some of these 740 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:08,360 Speaker 2: like hyper online meme level like liberalism was being pinned 741 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 2: to Every democratic. Candidate you, know things that were going 742 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 2: on in classrooms like just think of The libs of TikTok. 743 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 2: Account just think about that and how powerful that, was especially. 744 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 3: Like around twenty. 745 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 2: Twenty does that, then because of our totally fractured media, 746 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 2: landscape mean the claviculars of the world start to infect 747 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,320 Speaker 2: the way average voters Perceive. 748 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 3: Republicans and the answer to this is. 749 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 2: Not people are not prepared for this at THE, rnc 750 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 2: just as they weren't prepared for at THE, dnc because 751 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 2: the answer is absolutely, yes absolutely. Yes he has a big, 752 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 2: platform and he is speaking as somebody who is Pro Donald. 753 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,760 Speaker 3: Trump he is not like a conservative. 754 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 2: Influencer he's not a conservative radio, host like a local 755 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 2: radio host. Circuit, say, right you could you could call 756 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,399 Speaker 2: Up mike when he was a local radio host In 757 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,959 Speaker 2: indiana in the nineteen nineties and be, like, hey come 758 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 2: to our. Retreat you, know maybe he's getting a little. Chippy, 759 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 2: uh come to our, retreat be a, speaker, whatever and 760 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 2: you can whine and dine a radio. House so like 761 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 2: you have more. Control if you're the r N, c 762 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 2: you have no control. Anymore these are all but. 763 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 3: Decentralized but here's the other. 764 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 1: Thing like THE Dhs twitter account is posting about deporting 765 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 1: one hundred million. People that's every non white, person citizen 766 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 1: and non in the entire. Country that's a third of the. 767 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,720 Speaker 1: Population they post Like nazi stuff on their main account 768 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 1: all the, time just. OVERTLY i, Mean Steven miller is 769 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 1: every bit as extreme As Nick fuentes Or clovicular or. 770 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 1: Whoever so like. Entertaining yeah, right, yeah just way less. 771 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 4: Entertaining there's one years to the piece of a nation 772 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,840 Speaker 4: no longer besieged by The third, world and it's a 773 00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 4: car on the beach with a. 774 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 1: Wave, actually by the, way they stole this artwork from 775 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 1: A japanese, artist by the. 776 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 5: Way and also this Is. 777 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 1: America it Says america after one hundred million, Deportations so 778 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 1: again that's not criminal or legal. Ale that is a 779 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 1: third of the, population that is every non white person 780 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: in the. Country so, like of course people are going 781 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 1: to associate these fringe ideologies with this administration because this 782 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 1: administration has a fringe ideology that it puts out to 783 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 1: the public every single. 784 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 3: Day, WELL i think we're. 785 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 2: Just going to see more political mainstream quote unquote. Mainstream 786 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 2: like nothing is as mainstream now as it was when 787 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:41,439 Speaker 2: we had more. 788 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 3: Monoculture and SO i think. 789 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 2: WHAT wo is, like there's more more fringe is going 790 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,360 Speaker 2: to be incorporated into the quote mainstream in the future 791 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 2: because of the total decentralization that you DON'T i guess 792 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 2: it's part of the good and bad of losing gatekeepers 793 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 2: is that it's, like on the one, hand it's good 794 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 2: because we benefit from the gatekeepers being, gone meaning that 795 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 2: we can do. This on the other, hand when the 796 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,799 Speaker 2: gatekeepers are, gone it means you have to contend with 797 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,440 Speaker 2: the bad actors in that space, too and they do 798 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 2: start to really change. Things the last THING i will 799 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 2: say On clavicular is that we laughed earlier At zoron's 800 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 2: collectivism line BEING i saw this on at someone said 801 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,359 Speaker 2: the GRIFFIN mati sounds like an Iron rand. Villain and 802 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,839 Speaker 2: what's interesting to me about that is Ein rand was 803 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 2: the Took nietzscheism to its, extreme and this idea that 804 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 2: power is what mattered did start to change the way 805 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 2: influence the way that the right approached capitalism and the 806 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 2: right approached. Culture and Iron rand was virulently Anti, christian 807 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 2: was anti, religious which was the case with everyone who 808 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 2: was downstream Of nietzsche in the twentieth century in that 809 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 2: kind of stream of. Thought and that's again extraordinarily dangerous 810 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 2: because what you're starting to see physically as a symbol 811 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:14,240 Speaker 2: in ridiculous figures Like, clavicular trickles more and more into policy. 812 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 2: Too if you think this is just people looking at 813 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 2: themselves looks, maxing it's. Not it's it's going to be power. 814 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:27,719 Speaker 2: Maxing it's going to be it's going to be polymarket, 815 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,239 Speaker 2: maxing which we're doing in different sectors of. 816 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:32,799 Speaker 3: The economy right now. 817 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,360 Speaker 2: Too and so it's basically saying the only thing that 818 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,800 Speaker 2: matters is, strength the only thing that matters is, power 819 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:43,240 Speaker 2: and that's. Horrifying, again there's a real danger that migrates 820 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 2: from the. 821 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 1: Fringe it's a very dark view of. Life that's probably 822 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 1: a good Segue griffin to The Nick shirley talking about 823 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 1: speaking of influencer culture and bad actors and all of 824 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 1: that sort of stuff and how much power they. 825 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,800 Speaker 4: Have, Now, emily we got to talk about Detective, surely 826 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:01,319 Speaker 4: the gum shoe. 827 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 5: Reporter what's going on? 828 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 4: Here, emily there was a there was a YouTuber Named 829 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 4: Nick shirley who went Around, minnesota walked up to some 830 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:11,799 Speaker 4: daycare centers and they didn't let him. 831 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 5: In break it down for, US. 832 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:15,439 Speaker 3: I don't. 833 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 2: Know if we have like an element to put up 834 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,479 Speaker 2: on the, Shop we'll pull something. 835 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 5: Up. 836 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 2: Yeah over the last couple of, weeks this really broke 837 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,839 Speaker 2: right Before. Christmas from remembering, correctly it's hard to keep 838 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 2: the day straight right. Now But Nick, shirley who's a 839 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 2: pretty big kind of write coded. Influencer you see the 840 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 2: video on the screen OF cnn going to talk To 841 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 2: Nick shirley In minneapolis as he's investigating the massive fraud 842 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:45,879 Speaker 2: ring that you, know he was like seventy eight people 843 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 2: have been charged something like that. Already he goes and 844 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,239 Speaker 2: knocks on the door of daycare, centers places that are 845 00:44:54,280 --> 00:45:00,800 Speaker 2: purporting to treat, autism those types of, things and post 846 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 2: a video that just in the last couple of weeks 847 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 2: has gone mega. VIRAL i think it has like three 848 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,440 Speaker 2: million views on YouTube as of the time that we're 849 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 2: talking about, this and many many more views on other. 850 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:15,239 Speaker 2: Platforms it's basically taken what everybody had heard about in 851 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 2: the last, month which was the story people have been 852 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,960 Speaker 2: shouting for the rafters about In minneapolis for. 853 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,120 Speaker 3: A long, time and not just people on the. 854 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,840 Speaker 2: Right by the, way the article That i've cited the 855 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 2: most is a twenty twenty four piece in The Minnesota 856 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:34,400 Speaker 2: reformer from A somali former government official who was, saying 857 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,759 Speaker 2: this is a real, problem here's what's going, ON, X 858 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 2: y AND, z and so surely's tactics made for very 859 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 2: compelling viewership because you could see in some of the 860 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:50,440 Speaker 2: cases like he's been reinvestigated BY cnn AND npr and 861 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,759 Speaker 2: different outlets who've called. 862 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 3: All the places that he went. 863 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 2: To you can see very clearly in some of the 864 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 2: cases that it's shady and that they're kind of. 865 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 3: Fronts but but it's gonzo and. 866 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:07,319 Speaker 5: Most of them he got. 867 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 4: Wrong like so the flaud is. Real there is real, 868 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 4: fraud like hundreds of millions of dollars of. Fraud but 869 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,759 Speaker 4: the places that he went to were. Real he, like 870 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,759 Speaker 4: could there's a real fraud and he couldn't even get 871 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 4: to the right, ones, right like healked not all of, them. 872 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:20,799 Speaker 3: But, yeah some of them actually. 873 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 5: Turned because for one of, them he came. 874 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,840 Speaker 4: Early so like one of them was a daycare that 875 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,880 Speaker 4: opens at, two and he came there at like eleven. 876 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,800 Speaker 3: Am that's what it sounds. 877 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,359 Speaker 1: Like, yeah and there were others where they were just 878 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:36,799 Speaker 1: like this man and a whole crew are pounding on 879 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,280 Speaker 1: our door and demanding to see our. Kids no, Thanks 880 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,279 Speaker 1: we're not opening the door for, you you, know. 881 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,920 Speaker 3: And the better circumstances you wouldn't let him. 882 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,359 Speaker 1: IN i, mean, Listen, like this guy is a. Propagandist 883 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,360 Speaker 1: he had previously gone To israel and did a whole 884 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,920 Speaker 1: propaganda piece for them about how moral they are and 885 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,279 Speaker 1: all the lies that the palace and blah blah, blah 886 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,920 Speaker 1: like this is who he. Is this is not, journalism 887 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,440 Speaker 1: is completely shoddy intentional propaganda. 888 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 3: That you should see His seacott. Videos that's oh. Boy. 889 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,759 Speaker 4: Yeah we also we got to hear we got to 890 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 4: hear his. Voice that's important. Too let's just take a 891 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,960 Speaker 4: second of him OF cnn confronting, Him crystal before you 892 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:11,360 Speaker 4: finish your. 893 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:12,840 Speaker 1: Point, okay, yeah great. 894 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 10: Doors and talk to people at various daycares he claims or. 895 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 10: Frauds did you come during our normal operating hours when 896 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 10: you came to? 897 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 7: VISIT i came at eleven, AM i, believe AND i 898 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 7: also came the following day later in the. Day the 899 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,640 Speaker 7: point of it is not whether or NOT i came 900 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:34,960 Speaker 7: at the right at the right time. 901 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 5: Of their operation. 902 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,839 Speaker 7: Hours the point is that blocked out, doors they can't 903 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 7: give you any. Information you call that, number no one. 904 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,759 Speaker 7: ANSWERS i wasn't trying to go, inside and they there 905 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,319 Speaker 7: should be a way for somebody to actually to call 906 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 7: that number and somebody be an. 907 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,400 Speaker 5: Answer these aren't real, Businesses but surely. 908 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,480 Speaker 10: You don't think a daycare should just be. Unlocked you 909 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,839 Speaker 10: shouldn't be able to just walk into your. Reception, no 910 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 10: every daycare is. 911 00:47:54,600 --> 00:48:00,839 Speaker 7: Locked and so, okay you bring upoint the information how 912 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:01,880 Speaker 7: to enroll a child. 913 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:02,960 Speaker 5: Because you don't have a. 914 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,239 Speaker 4: Child and then there's one more moment, here really, Good, 915 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,800 Speaker 4: yeah let's try this moment. 916 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 10: Here do you think that BETTER La enforcement hasn't done? 917 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 10: ENOUGH i mean they would, say, look these front cases 918 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 10: have been going, on but they've already done like eighty. 919 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 10: Indictments the cases have been going, on you know for. 920 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 7: Years why DID i show up one Day minnesota and 921 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 7: go to all these daycares no? Children they're receiving millions 922 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 7: of dollars being covering one million dollars in fraud in one. 923 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,239 Speaker 10: Day how do you know that all the allegations that 924 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:29,960 Speaker 10: you're making are? 925 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 7: True how DO i know that they're? True, well we 926 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,360 Speaker 7: showed you guys That we showed you guys what was, 927 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 7: happening and then you guys can go ahead and make 928 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:36,279 Speaker 7: your own. 929 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,400 Speaker 10: Milk we're coming so we can make our own. Analysis 930 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:39,560 Speaker 10: are you one hundred percent sure you're? 931 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:39,839 Speaker 2: True? 932 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:40,879 Speaker 5: YEAH i am a hundred percent. 933 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:45,960 Speaker 2: Sure the, sweatshirt, incredibly the sweatshirt does the Infamous Quality Leering, 934 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,080 Speaker 2: center which is the name of one of the day 935 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 2: cares with misspelled. 936 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,240 Speaker 3: Learning so what happens. 937 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,839 Speaker 1: Here what happens here is he films this bullshit propaganda, 938 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,440 Speaker 1: video which, like, okay the most you should do from 939 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:03,120 Speaker 1: this is then if you're genuinely concerned about, fraud which they're. 940 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,000 Speaker 1: Not trump is like spending every day pardoning a bunch of, 941 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,840 Speaker 1: fraudsters like that's his whole administration is like a grift 942 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,560 Speaker 1: and like stealing everything that's not nailed down and pardoning 943 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 1: white collar criminals left and. Right so they don't actually 944 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:22,600 Speaker 1: give a shit but Present George Santos george, okay so 945 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,399 Speaker 1: also but in any, case so they you, know if 946 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,440 Speaker 1: you actually care about, this, okay, well let's see if 947 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,000 Speaker 1: he's you, know really onto something. Here let me call 948 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,239 Speaker 1: these day care, centers let me do some, investigation let 949 00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,640 Speaker 1: me press the state of government Of. Minnesota does that? Happen, 950 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,080 Speaker 1: No Jade vance retweets. IT i don't, know Don junior, 951 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,239 Speaker 1: bunch other like government officials just pick it up and 952 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 1: run with, it do and because they don't care whether 953 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,239 Speaker 1: it is true or. Not in, Fact i'm sure these 954 00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,879 Speaker 1: are Not Jade vance is not a stupid. Person i'm 955 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 1: sure he is probably suspects that a lot of this 956 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,920 Speaker 1: is not actually, true but it serves their. Propaganda so 957 00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 1: not only do they take it and run with it 958 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:02,440 Speaker 1: with zero, checking but they use it for official government. 959 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:06,160 Speaker 1: Policy so now not only are all of the childcare 960 00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,960 Speaker 1: pain ins the state Of minnesota paused based on this absolute, 961 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,239 Speaker 1: garbage propaganda, bullshit but they are now saying they're going 962 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:17,920 Speaker 1: to pause all childcare subsidies to every state in the entire. 963 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:23,200 Speaker 1: Country like this IS i, mean this has genuine, consequences 964 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 1: and this administration we're supposed to be like pro family 965 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,680 Speaker 1: blah blah, blah and also in favor of people being 966 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,239 Speaker 1: able to like go and work. Hard how are you 967 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,680 Speaker 1: going to go out and hold a job if your 968 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 1: daycare center is now shut. DOWN a lot of these 969 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,719 Speaker 1: places are run very you, know it's they don't have 970 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:42,239 Speaker 1: a lot of extra. Bandwidth so if you have your 971 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 1: subsidies cut for a month or even a handful of, 972 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:49,920 Speaker 1: weeks that center may be. Closed your childcare costs have just. 973 00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 1: Skyrocketed so THAT'S i, mean it's just disgusting to. Me 974 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,120 Speaker 1: but LIKE i, said it serves their. Propaganda in terms 975 00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,279 Speaker 1: of you, know they want to they want to make 976 00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:02,000 Speaker 1: it about we hate, immigrants we hate Black muslim immigrants in. 977 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,720 Speaker 1: Particular it also is, like, oh undercutting the social safety 978 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,759 Speaker 1: net and undercutting the. Gesto it's all just. Fraud you, 979 00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:12,360 Speaker 1: know they're not really doing anything. Beneficial and it also 980 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,319 Speaker 1: is not lost on me and this point that others 981 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,680 Speaker 1: have made as, well that it comes at a time 982 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,680 Speaker 1: When israel has taken a major beating with the right 983 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:22,919 Speaker 1: and with the public in general in terms of their 984 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,080 Speaker 1: perception their view is the best way to combat that 985 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:30,239 Speaker 1: is by Stoking. Islamophobia and now here you go with 986 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,920 Speaker 1: the guy who did you, know propaganda For israel coming 987 00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:36,120 Speaker 1: in to do this Anti somali like fundamentally like Anti 988 00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:40,160 Speaker 1: islamophobic propaganda as. Well SO i think those, things you, 989 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,840 Speaker 1: know are worth noting that those are happening in. 990 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:47,359 Speaker 2: Parallel there are, THOUGH i Think ryan AND i read 991 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,960 Speaker 2: from this was A Minnesota reformer article THAT i just 992 00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,160 Speaker 2: referenced By SOMALI i think worked at the in THE 993 00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,799 Speaker 2: ag office In, minnesota talking about how there were real 994 00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,759 Speaker 2: cultural components of, this and actually this article was also 995 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,520 Speaker 2: saying some of the biggest victims of this Were somali 996 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,160 Speaker 2: people who you, know were being. 997 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,879 Speaker 3: Caught up in this massive effort and that. 998 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:15,520 Speaker 2: LISTEN i think our federal subsidy system is so like 999 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,560 Speaker 2: rife with fraud that there are plenty of white people 1000 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,960 Speaker 2: who are out there like defrauding taxpayers and the, government 1001 00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,839 Speaker 2: but there were even like there are somalies to say 1002 00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:27,960 Speaker 2: there's a cultural component to. This SO i don't think 1003 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:32,320 Speaker 2: it's entirely just a question of like Stoking. 1004 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:33,920 Speaker 3: ISLAMOPHOBIA i think there were. 1005 00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,799 Speaker 2: Maybe we all agree on, this that there were concerns 1006 00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:38,920 Speaker 2: In minnesota about, that. 1007 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:42,280 Speaker 1: Which is why The biden administration prosecuted some like seventy 1008 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,680 Speaker 1: eight people or, whatever you. KNOW i, mean that's and 1009 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,400 Speaker 1: that's the thing is like it makes me sick to 1010 00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,120 Speaker 1: See Elon musk jumping in on this like a, brother you, did, 1011 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,760 Speaker 1: doge how many people did you refer for criminal prosecution of? Fraud? 1012 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:54,680 Speaker 3: Zero? 1013 00:52:55,440 --> 00:53:00,520 Speaker 1: Zero? Okay so, yeah, SURE i. Agree by the. 1014 00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:04,480 Speaker 2: Way the biggest subsidy queens are The Elon musks of 1015 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:05,719 Speaker 2: yes the, World. 1016 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:09,680 Speaker 1: Yes completely, Yes and so you, know like if you're 1017 00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,040 Speaker 1: serious about, it AND i think that people on THE 1018 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,040 Speaker 1: i agree With, RYAN i agree With rocana that people 1019 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,960 Speaker 1: on the left should be concerned about fraud and these 1020 00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,320 Speaker 1: programs because it does delegitimize them when it comes forward 1021 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,040 Speaker 1: and from someone who believes in a social safety net 1022 00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,400 Speaker 1: and universalist, programs LIKE i think a lot of What 1023 00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,680 Speaker 1: minnesota did was really great and really. Important so you 1024 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,319 Speaker 1: have to be serious about. Fraud this is not the 1025 00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:36,280 Speaker 1: way to do. It demonizing an entire group of people 1026 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,880 Speaker 1: going off of some bullshit propaganda video honestly, undercuts you, 1027 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,200 Speaker 1: know anyone who's serious about, this like undercuts their position 1028 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,640 Speaker 1: in seriously investigating this. Stuff, instead you do like What 1029 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,640 Speaker 1: rocana is doing In, california where he, said, look there 1030 00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,520 Speaker 1: was a report that said there is a significant amount 1031 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 1: of fraud. Here we need to have a. Commission we 1032 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:55,120 Speaker 1: need to root this. Out we need to figure out 1033 00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,160 Speaker 1: where these dollars are going so that taxpayers feel like 1034 00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,600 Speaker 1: their money is being well, spent like there are real 1035 00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:01,880 Speaker 1: and serious ways to go about. It the idea that 1036 00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,440 Speaker 1: these people have any interest in this when at the 1037 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:08,400 Speaker 1: very same time he's pardoning some you, know white collar 1038 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:13,439 Speaker 1: criminal who stole over like a billion dollars and then 1039 00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,719 Speaker 1: denying people restitution that they're owed who were victimized by 1040 00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:18,600 Speaker 1: these crooks who like took them for all they were 1041 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,520 Speaker 1: worth In ponzi, schemes et. Cetera, like let's be, serious 1042 00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,040 Speaker 1: they don't. Care they just care because it's. Useful there 1043 00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:25,319 Speaker 1: a political, project. 1044 00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,279 Speaker 4: And trump literally pumps and dumps the entire economy with 1045 00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,239 Speaker 4: his like crypto coins and stuff like. 1046 00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,120 Speaker 1: That like the biggest fraudsturer in the. 1047 00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,560 Speaker 4: World i'm, confused are do we like it or? Not, 1048 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,279 Speaker 4: like is it based or not to do. This i'm 1049 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,920 Speaker 4: confused BECAUSE i think they're just following the great tradition 1050 00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:40,160 Speaker 4: of our. 1051 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:44,000 Speaker 5: President, well, NO. 1052 00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,120 Speaker 3: I mean it's A i think maybe the BIGGEST i don't. 1053 00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:48,600 Speaker 2: Know one of the bigger takeaways from this is the 1054 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,719 Speaker 2: like it's a media story in that The New York 1055 00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:57,359 Speaker 2: times waiting into The somali fraud case is what then 1056 00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:02,600 Speaker 2: elevated it into the national. Discourse In, minnesota this has 1057 00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,960 Speaker 2: been a huge story for, years like, years, years years 1058 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,800 Speaker 2: like twenty, seventeen twenty, eighteen even before, that and. 1059 00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:12,440 Speaker 3: When The New York times covered. 1060 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,799 Speaker 2: It my, perspective as somebody on the, right is this 1061 00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:19,080 Speaker 2: should have been a national story or more more significant 1062 00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:23,000 Speaker 2: national story for a long, time just given the scale 1063 00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:26,919 Speaker 2: of The illaedge fraud it's so serious and significant and 1064 00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:32,080 Speaker 2: the treasures are insane that it was downplayed and when 1065 00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:35,160 Speaker 2: The New York times comes in elevates the. Story you 1066 00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,359 Speaker 2: still have a lot of people on the right who 1067 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,320 Speaker 2: are frustrated with a lack OF i think understandably frustrated 1068 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,799 Speaker 2: with a lack of media coverage prior to The New 1069 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,279 Speaker 2: York times coming, In and that happens so. Often The 1070 00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,440 Speaker 2: New York times comes in elevates a. Story, Springfield ohio 1071 00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,719 Speaker 2: is a really good, example and then people on the 1072 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:57,160 Speaker 2: right will go berserk in response to, that and it 1073 00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:01,000 Speaker 2: completely shifts the conversation to something. Different and that's what 1074 00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,280 Speaker 2: With Nick. Shirley this kid's a YouTuber who went around 1075 00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,399 Speaker 2: with a dji mic and an iPhone with a couple 1076 00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,960 Speaker 2: of security dudes and was just like knocking on. Doors 1077 00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,640 Speaker 2: didn't have presumably didn't have like an editor or a 1078 00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,080 Speaker 2: fact checker or anything like. That you put out a 1079 00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:20,640 Speaker 2: forty minute YouTube video that was like fairly entertaining and 1080 00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:24,239 Speaker 2: went like caught like. Wildfire and that's now the tone 1081 00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,920 Speaker 2: setting in, Politics like that's how the conversation is getting 1082 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,799 Speaker 2: set going, forward and there's just nothing that we can. 1083 00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:32,840 Speaker 3: Like that's how it is the way it. 1084 00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:36,839 Speaker 1: Goes, yeah that's the last Thing i'll say. That it's 1085 00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:38,680 Speaker 1: been irritating me as well AS i see all these 1086 00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:42,359 Speaker 1: posts that are like where's the mainstream media? Coverage i'm, 1087 00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,600 Speaker 1: like this literally all started because of A New York times, 1088 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:48,200 Speaker 1: Piece like y'all weren't doing anything on this until The 1089 00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:52,520 Speaker 1: New york like the establishment outlet wrote this. Piece and 1090 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,719 Speaker 1: Then i've also seen all these, oh look at all 1091 00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,719 Speaker 1: these outlets that haven't covered, it and then you go 1092 00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,759 Speaker 1: and look and they, have and you, know a bunch 1093 00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:03,000 Speaker 1: like like there's a bunch of videos now local, news 1094 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:08,000 Speaker 1: Even Barry WEISS'S, cbs THE, CNN ps and like a 1095 00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,320 Speaker 1: bunch of these outlets have gone out now to be, Like, 1096 00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,560 Speaker 1: okay well what's really going on? Here but because those 1097 00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:17,760 Speaker 1: outlets aren't feeding the narrative that they, want then they 1098 00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:21,000 Speaker 1: discount that like that doesn't count because you're not just you, 1099 00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,840 Speaker 1: know feeding into this this smear campaign that we we 1100 00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:25,480 Speaker 1: want to see. 1101 00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:30,200 Speaker 5: Here, WELL i think he's The Andrew callahan the. 1102 00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,920 Speaker 4: RIGHT i think it's incredible that they the right now 1103 00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,480 Speaker 4: has an ugly guy doing man on the street stuff 1104 00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:40,240 Speaker 4: Uncovering So i'm excited for the next investigation in the 1105 00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:44,000 Speaker 4: next national news story From Nick. Shirley, uh anything else 1106 00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,760 Speaker 4: that we need to cover in this in this? Hour uh, Here, 1107 00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:49,919 Speaker 4: crystal what Anything you're dying to get. 1108 00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:50,680 Speaker 5: Out The ACTUALLY i. 1109 00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:52,960 Speaker 1: AM i am dying to get a little bit into 1110 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:56,000 Speaker 1: this billionaire, mountdown just Because i've been somewhat involved with. 1111 00:57:56,040 --> 00:58:00,800 Speaker 1: It so if we so, Drop, Yeah i'm a. Millionnaire, 1112 00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:04,240 Speaker 1: yeah millionaire. 1113 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:09,480 Speaker 4: Town So david sax here, says as a response to, 1114 00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:14,200 Speaker 4: Socialism miami will REPLACE nyc as the finance capital And 1115 00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,080 Speaker 4: austin will REPLACE sf as the tech. 1116 00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:20,320 Speaker 1: Capital it's funny Because miami just elected A democrat as mayor, 1117 00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:24,160 Speaker 1: too so that's. Lol And austin is always. Democratic but. Whatever, 1118 00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,840 Speaker 1: anyway this is all in response To, okay there is 1119 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:32,880 Speaker 1: a possibility that there may be a ballot proposal on 1120 00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:37,200 Speaker 1: the ballace In california about a five percent well taxed 1121 00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,760 Speaker 1: to be paid over five. Years and it's a coalition 1122 00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:44,400 Speaker 1: of unions who are pushing, this and So, rocanna who 1123 00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,160 Speaker 1: knows a lot of these, guys you, Know david sax 1124 00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:50,880 Speaker 1: has actually hosted fundraisers For. Rocana came out and was, 1125 00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:54,840 Speaker 1: like this is good AND i support. It que and 1126 00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:59,640 Speaker 1: absolute meltdown from these. Dudes AND i think it's because 1127 00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,520 Speaker 1: it's and because he Represents Silicon, valley and because LIKE i, 1128 00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:06,360 Speaker 1: said they know. Him it feels like more of a. 1129 00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:08,920 Speaker 1: Trail LIKE i think IF aoc said something, SIMILAR i 1130 00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,400 Speaker 1: don't think they would really. Care but because It's, row 1131 00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:15,440 Speaker 1: they're like losing their minds over. It and then and 1132 00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,200 Speaker 1: what you have up, HERE i think is you now 1133 00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:22,680 Speaker 1: have a bunch of these tach billionaires who Very acman 1134 00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:26,360 Speaker 1: style are coming out online to announce that they're going 1135 00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,360 Speaker 1: to put all this money together to try to Unseat. 1136 00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,360 Speaker 1: Row and they say primary. Him I'm california has jungle. 1137 00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,080 Speaker 1: Primaries they don't really have primes whatever they want to challenge, him, 1138 00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:39,080 Speaker 1: right this is going to be. Unsuccessful but they're throwing 1139 00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:44,000 Speaker 1: a complete temper tantrum about. It and so you, know 1140 00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,520 Speaker 1: there's threats that they're going to leave the state and 1141 00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:48,160 Speaker 1: they're going to go To, austin or they're going to 1142 00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,920 Speaker 1: go To miami and the whole deal. 1143 00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:56,200 Speaker 4: For This Howard, casado he, Says roe has done a speed, 1144 00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,440 Speaker 4: run alienating every MODERATE i know who supported, him including. 1145 00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,080 Speaker 4: Myself beyond being totally out of touch with that faction 1146 01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:05,040 Speaker 4: of his. Base he's devolved into an obnoxious. Jerk at 1147 01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,480 Speaker 4: least that makes voting him the fuck out all the more. 1148 01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:11,920 Speaker 4: Gratifying oh, guy time to primary. 1149 01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,640 Speaker 5: Him count me. In happy to be involved at any. 1150 01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,280 Speaker 1: Level, yeah there was one of THESE i can't remember 1151 01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,160 Speaker 1: who it was from that was, like he's just acting 1152 01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:23,240 Speaker 1: like a full On Bernie brode, now And i'm, like my, 1153 01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:27,960 Speaker 1: brother my brother In. Christ he was literally co chair 1154 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:31,160 Speaker 1: Of Bernie sanders'. Campaign, like what are we talking about here? 1155 01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,800 Speaker 2: There and they're happy to your point About David sachs 1156 01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:37,280 Speaker 2: hosting fundraisers For row and then talking About miami And 1157 01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:43,919 Speaker 2: austin relatively blue. Places austin in, particular they didn't care 1158 01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,120 Speaker 2: about that when they Thought democrats were on their. 1159 01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,360 Speaker 3: SIDE i mean this the case was so many of. 1160 01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,200 Speaker 2: Them they believed that they could kind of co opt 1161 01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:54,760 Speaker 2: democrats and then realized that Basically trump was much much 1162 01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:58,360 Speaker 2: easier to co. Opt was It traumoth who basically said 1163 01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:01,840 Speaker 2: that to? It was Like pete booda judge or somebody 1164 01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:04,200 Speaker 2: who was on all. In he was, LIKE i would 1165 01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:06,680 Speaker 2: try to call The biden administration and get them to 1166 01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,520 Speaker 2: work with, me and they weren't taking my. Calls and 1167 01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:14,640 Speaker 2: it's just like it's not about even like left or 1168 01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,160 Speaker 2: right this because this is like such a we're tying 1169 01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,200 Speaker 2: a bow on the whole episode. Here it's about who 1170 01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,880 Speaker 2: gives them, power, uh and how they can be like 1171 01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,800 Speaker 2: strong players in the economy and they believe in their 1172 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:29,440 Speaker 2: core that they know what is, best and what's best 1173 01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,960 Speaker 2: is them having a ton of control in the. 1174 01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:37,400 Speaker 1: Marketplace, yeah they are deeply authoritarian. PEOPLE i, mean they genuinely, 1175 01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:40,800 Speaker 1: are and that's What so they hated The biden administration 1176 01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:44,960 Speaker 1: for regulating. Crypto they hated The biden administrations AND i just, 1177 01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,760 Speaker 1: PUSH i mean The biden, ministry like there was very 1178 01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,760 Speaker 1: little in terms OF ai regulation that was actually, done 1179 01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,000 Speaker 1: but the little bit that was, done they absolutely had 1180 01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:56,640 Speaker 1: to take it. Seriously, yes and then you also have 1181 01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,280 Speaker 1: these sort of series of personal. GRIEVANCES i recommend you 1182 01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:02,520 Speaker 1: guys watch the INTERVIEW i did With Jacob silverman about 1183 01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:05,680 Speaker 1: his Book Gilded, rage because he did all the fantastic 1184 01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:08,720 Speaker 1: reporting about these. Guys you also have these personal things where, 1185 01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,200 Speaker 1: like you, know they were pissed off that their employees were, 1186 01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:15,000 Speaker 1: woke or In elon's, case the fact that his son 1187 01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:19,720 Speaker 1: transitions to being you, know a girl that really bothered 1188 01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:21,920 Speaker 1: him on a personal. Level so you have and then 1189 01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:25,480 Speaker 1: you HAVE i think It's andreasen who's upset because his 1190 01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,240 Speaker 1: daughter goes to college and becomes a. Communist so you 1191 01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:33,960 Speaker 1: have this sort of like upset over being regulated combined 1192 01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:38,640 Speaker 1: with these sort of like personal limitations on their power 1193 01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:42,800 Speaker 1: and domain over either their family members or their. Employees 1194 01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:48,000 Speaker 1: that leads to this absolute embrace Of. Trump and so 1195 01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:50,680 Speaker 1: in any, case to take it back To california and row. 1196 01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:52,520 Speaker 1: Here you, know if you look at the polling on, 1197 01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:54,640 Speaker 1: this it's like seventy percent of the country that things 1198 01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,600 Speaker 1: billionaire should be taxed. More, Right it is an overwhelming, 1199 01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:02,280 Speaker 1: consensus not just Among, democrats the entire country that billionaires 1200 01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:04,600 Speaker 1: are not tax tax enough and should be taxed, more 1201 01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:07,680 Speaker 1: especially AS ai is coming and the circles back to 1202 01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:09,160 Speaker 1: you know WHAT i was talking about early on and 1203 01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,080 Speaker 1: thinking about what is this going to mean for our 1204 01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:13,560 Speaker 1: society and what could a social contract look like that 1205 01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:16,120 Speaker 1: would actually. Work the track we're on right now is 1206 01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:19,560 Speaker 1: to have a handful of trillionaires and everybody else, basically 1207 01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:24,680 Speaker 1: like you, Know lamps's the slaughter irrelevant. Unneeded that's where we're, 1208 01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,840 Speaker 1: headed and democracy can't. Survive that's a. Dum there's just 1209 01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:31,800 Speaker 1: no doubt about that. Whatsoever so in any, case, this 1210 01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,040 Speaker 1: in the grand scheme of all of that is a 1211 01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:37,480 Speaker 1: very modest, proposal, right they. Don't but the fact that 1212 01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,600 Speaker 1: it's even potentially on the table, again this hasn't even 1213 01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:42,640 Speaker 1: made it on the belly, yet but even potentially on the, 1214 01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:47,000 Speaker 1: table and that their representative In Silicon valley would champion 1215 01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:52,360 Speaker 1: it has led to total. Meltdown and so you, know for, 1216 01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,320 Speaker 1: me it reminds me a little bit of why there 1217 01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:57,960 Speaker 1: was such a freak out About zoron In New. York 1218 01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:01,240 Speaker 1: not only is he confronting cap but also on the 1219 01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:05,280 Speaker 1: you know that he's an avowed Anti, zionist and there's 1220 01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:08,440 Speaker 1: this sense, like, oh you could never held that position 1221 01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,640 Speaker 1: In New York, city of all, places and so For 1222 01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:14,919 Speaker 1: roe to hold this position In Silicon valley of all, 1223 01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:19,360 Speaker 1: places has a, similar similar character and similar, Flavor and 1224 01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:22,840 Speaker 1: is WHY i think it's an important political political battle 1225 01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:23,400 Speaker 1: that is brewing. 1226 01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,920 Speaker 2: HERE i, mean when the twenty seventeen tax cut was, 1227 01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,520 Speaker 2: passed this is how seriously The Republican party is about 1228 01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:33,760 Speaker 2: actual like closing loopholes and you, know actually having a fair. 1229 01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:36,680 Speaker 2: Taxation so some Paw ryan was out there talking about the. 1230 01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:40,360 Speaker 2: Proposal it's long circulated on the right to get your 1231 01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:45,760 Speaker 2: taxes onto a postcard and essentially a version of the flat, 1232 01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:48,160 Speaker 2: tax some type of version of the flat, tax and 1233 01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:50,480 Speaker 2: it all obviously was not. 1234 01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:51,520 Speaker 3: Happening it's all out the. 1235 01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:55,960 Speaker 2: Window they have this generational opportunity to close loopholes and 1236 01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:59,960 Speaker 2: create a more fair taxation. System they then just RepA 1237 01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:04,440 Speaker 2: asked a version of that same bill and are expending 1238 01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:07,480 Speaker 2: no political capital to closing. Loopholes there's a. WAY i, 1239 01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:09,760 Speaker 2: Mean i'm a flat tax person and we've talked about this. 1240 01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,439 Speaker 2: Before but if, YOU i, think if, you if these 1241 01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:20,840 Speaker 2: like libertarian business, superman we're serious about populism and which 1242 01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:24,640 Speaker 2: they're obviously, not but we're serious about opposing, elites then 1243 01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:29,680 Speaker 2: you can do taxation in a way that closes loopholes 1244 01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:32,200 Speaker 2: and is still to them free market. 1245 01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:34,160 Speaker 3: Friendly but nobody has any. 1246 01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,720 Speaker 2: Appetite they might say in the, abstract oh that sounds, 1247 01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:39,040 Speaker 2: good but when push comes to shove and stuff's actually 1248 01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:42,080 Speaker 2: on the, table nobody, ever, ever, ever ever. 1249 01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:42,800 Speaker 3: Wants to do. 1250 01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:46,160 Speaker 2: It so you could even see momentum from the right 1251 01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:49,040 Speaker 2: to do something like a flat tax if you have 1252 01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:52,479 Speaker 2: all of this generational political. Capital but we, didn't AND 1253 01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:56,200 Speaker 2: i think that tells you what type of system people really. 1254 01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:59,000 Speaker 1: Prefer, YEAH i, MEAN i hate a flat, tax but 1255 01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:02,800 Speaker 1: we can find about that another, day regressive, Whatever but your, 1256 01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,440 Speaker 1: POINT i, mean your point stands. It here's one THING 1257 01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:07,919 Speaker 1: i replied to one of these GUYS i don't even 1258 01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:11,200 Speaker 1: remember which one, with BUT i was, like, listen in a, 1259 01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:15,080 Speaker 1: Sense rokana is like kind of trying to save your ass, 1260 01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:17,520 Speaker 1: Here like he calls a wealth tax an anti revolution, 1261 01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:20,840 Speaker 1: tax and he's absolutely. Right like do you think people 1262 01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:25,040 Speaker 1: are just gonna stand by forever and watch you destroy their, 1263 01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:30,200 Speaker 1: jobs destroy their communities with YOUR ai data, centers steal their, 1264 01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:34,440 Speaker 1: water hike their electric, bills and they're just gonna take it? 1265 01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:38,240 Speaker 1: Forever Like, NO i, mean this is this was The New. 1266 01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:43,360 Speaker 1: Deal the deal in The New deal was that capital, Realized, 1267 01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:46,640 Speaker 1: okay we're gonna have to do something here or else 1268 01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:48,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna end up with, communists like they're gonna end 1269 01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:50,480 Speaker 1: up taking our. Shit it's not gonna be better for 1270 01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:53,160 Speaker 1: us if we don't do some sort of you, know 1271 01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:57,480 Speaker 1: smoothing the rough edges of. Capitalism and it's crazy to 1272 01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:59,760 Speaker 1: me that none of these guys see. THIS i, mean 1273 01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:02,440 Speaker 1: it really is genuinely insane to me that they don't 1274 01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:05,760 Speaker 1: recognize that if they don't cut the public in on the, 1275 01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:08,920 Speaker 1: deal and they, don't they already have more money they 1276 01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:12,400 Speaker 1: could ever spend in a. Lifetime, like if you don't 1277 01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:15,360 Speaker 1: strike some sort of a balance, here it's going to 1278 01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:18,160 Speaker 1: be way worse for you in the long. Term the. 1279 01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:21,520 Speaker 1: Public And i'm not just talking About, democrats like they hate, 1280 01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:25,280 Speaker 1: you they hate, you they think you are. Villains listen 1281 01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:28,520 Speaker 1: to you, know listen to not only democraph listen To Steve, 1282 01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:32,200 Speaker 1: bannon listen To Nick, Flints like there is a make 1283 01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:36,080 Speaker 1: Very Tim. Dillon, look there is a very broad coalition 1284 01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:39,680 Speaker 1: of people, who by the, way rightly see you as 1285 01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:44,280 Speaker 1: genuine villains and despise. You so in the grand scheme 1286 01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:48,240 Speaker 1: of things like a one percent for five years wealth 1287 01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:52,120 Speaker 1: tax or five percent in five years wealth tax is 1288 01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:55,360 Speaker 1: such small. Potatoes and so for, me that's the other 1289 01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,720 Speaker 1: part of this that's, important is like it just shows 1290 01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:01,840 Speaker 1: you there is zero recon with, That like even something 1291 01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:04,920 Speaker 1: that is a relatively in the grand scheme of, things modest. 1292 01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:07,280 Speaker 1: Proposal there's no, like OH i don't think this is 1293 01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:08,840 Speaker 1: the right way to do, It let's do this. Instead 1294 01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,320 Speaker 1: it's just absolutely. No we will give you. Nothing we 1295 01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:13,600 Speaker 1: will take our toys and, leave we will. Go some 1296 01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:16,400 Speaker 1: of them are like we'll go to a different, country zero. 1297 01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:20,559 Speaker 1: LOYALTY i don't any Of, YEAH i don't, know because 1298 01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:25,840 Speaker 1: look what's. Happening, yeah After zoran got, elected there were 1299 01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:30,400 Speaker 1: more luxury real estate, sales right because there's reasons people 1300 01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:32,120 Speaker 1: want to be In New, york there's reasons people want 1301 01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:34,320 Speaker 1: to be In Silicon. Valley those things are going to. 1302 01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:37,280 Speaker 1: Persist so while SOME i MEAN i DON'T i got. 1303 01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:40,320 Speaker 5: The effect here from the independent, sales. 1304 01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:44,759 Speaker 1: Maybe there will be a handful of like high profile 1305 01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:47,519 Speaker 1: people who very dramatically like take their toys and go 1306 01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:51,280 Speaker 1: the Way elon left For texas or. WHATEVER i don't put, that, 1307 01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:54,240 Speaker 1: YEAH i don't put that out of the. Question but, 1308 01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:57,080 Speaker 1: overall Is miami you're going to give him the finance 1309 01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:59,400 Speaker 1: like get out of? Town Is austin going to out 1310 01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:01,760 Speaker 1: Do Silicon valley in terms of tech investment and? NOT 1311 01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:04,720 Speaker 1: i mean it's nowhere close to. That it's. Preposterous it's a. 1312 01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:09,400 Speaker 1: Fantasy so, ANYWAY i think this is the this is 1313 01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:12,559 Speaker 1: the fight that The Democratic party needs to take, on 1314 01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:16,280 Speaker 1: and if if they want to win back the trust 1315 01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:18,519 Speaker 1: of the, people if they want to be able to 1316 01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:22,040 Speaker 1: deliver like meaningful change in the country and you, know 1317 01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:25,720 Speaker 1: a genuine populism that's actually going to be beneficial and 1318 01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,720 Speaker 1: help to bring the country back. Together these are the 1319 01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:30,960 Speaker 1: types of fight fights that they're they're going to have 1320 01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:33,320 Speaker 1: to take. On and you, Know Gavin, newsom by the, 1321 01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:34,960 Speaker 1: way is on the other side of. This just to 1322 01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:37,759 Speaker 1: go back To Gavin newsom takes money from these, guys 1323 01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:41,000 Speaker 1: is raising money to oppose this ballot, Proposition like you, 1324 01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:44,080 Speaker 1: know is is definitely on the wrong side of which 1325 01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:46,680 Speaker 1: way you would want The Democratic party to. Go but he, 1326 01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:50,280 Speaker 1: Mogs but but he does. Mog so what are you gonna? 1327 01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:52,200 Speaker 4: Do you, know me and me And David, Sachs we're 1328 01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:54,280 Speaker 4: going to be in A miami penthouse doing low grade 1329 01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:55,280 Speaker 4: amounts of meth. 1330 01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:58,920 Speaker 1: Uh finance with a, hammer. 1331 01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:02,599 Speaker 4: Yeah and, wow WHILE Jd vance gets a catastrophic amount 1332 01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:06,040 Speaker 4: of ozembic shipped to his house like he's it's just 1333 01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:08,439 Speaker 4: gonna be insane FOR. Jd the next couple of, years 1334 01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:11,360 Speaker 4: there's gonna be another. Transformation uh, well, FOLKS i think 1335 01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:13,960 Speaker 4: you're doing it Our friday. Episode oh, yeah it's gonna. 1336 01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:16,960 Speaker 4: Be we're gonna see, something but crazy before after he's. 1337 01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,200 Speaker 3: Already had the. 1338 01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:24,840 Speaker 2: Transformation the, Eyeshadow, oh the beard. Shadow he grew a. 1339 01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:26,759 Speaker 2: Beard he lost probably like thirty. 1340 01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:27,680 Speaker 3: POUNDS i don't know how. 1341 01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:35,160 Speaker 1: Changed his name like five different. Times. YEAH i think WITH, 1342 01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:38,160 Speaker 1: jd it's gonna be it's gonna be tough for him 1343 01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:41,519 Speaker 1: because they bank so much on the, vibes you, know 1344 01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:44,000 Speaker 1: and like he does, it the vibes are not WITH. 1345 01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:45,240 Speaker 1: Jd but we'll. 1346 01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:46,439 Speaker 5: See, yeah all. 1347 01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:50,120 Speaker 4: Right, well, folks the vibes are good here On january, 1348 01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:51,080 Speaker 4: second twenty twenty. 1349 01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:52,080 Speaker 5: Six we're excited for a big. 1350 01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,200 Speaker 4: Year anything else that we need to mention before we 1351 01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:56,479 Speaker 4: sign off and see you back in studio On. 1352 01:10:56,560 --> 01:11:01,479 Speaker 1: Monday, yeah regular schedule next. Week Whether i'm prepared for 1353 01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:04,280 Speaker 1: that or, Not that early wake up calls can be 1354 01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:07,760 Speaker 1: gonna be. Rough so you, know the real, Problems these 1355 01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:09,280 Speaker 1: are the real problems That i'm facing in my. 1356 01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:10,479 Speaker 3: Life you know who's ready for? 1357 01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:13,640 Speaker 2: IT i Bet sager is he is just, waiting is 1358 01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:15,680 Speaker 2: alarmed to go off in the. 1359 01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:17,479 Speaker 3: Dark you know he's so. 1360 01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:20,360 Speaker 1: Excited, well you know, what now that he's a, father 1361 01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:23,360 Speaker 1: you start to like work becomes easy once you have, 1362 01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:28,360 Speaker 1: kids because he's, like parenting is so much. Harder so 1363 01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:30,479 Speaker 1: he probably is looking forward to, like CAN i get 1364 01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:32,840 Speaker 1: away from this baby for a little bit of? Time 1365 01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:34,760 Speaker 1: just like let me go and be an adult for 1366 01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:35,240 Speaker 1: a little bit of. 1367 01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:36,960 Speaker 3: TIME i love. 1368 01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:39,960 Speaker 4: It And uh to the, audience we're so grateful for. 1369 01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:41,960 Speaker 4: You we're hoping you're having a great start to the new. 1370 01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:43,920 Speaker 5: Year and in the comments of this, video let us 1371 01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:45,479 Speaker 5: know what you want us to cover this. 1372 01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:48,120 Speaker 4: Year anything that you think that we haven't covered, enough 1373 01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:50,120 Speaker 4: things that you'd like us to look, into things on the. 1374 01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:53,479 Speaker 4: Horizon we're interested to hear what you think as, well 1375 01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:54,640 Speaker 4: and that'll do it for. 1376 01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:55,479 Speaker 5: Us we'll see you all On. 1377 01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:55,840 Speaker 4: Monday. 1378 01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:57,679 Speaker 5: Bye. 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