1 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,239 Speaker 1: Welcome to another super fabulous edition of Breaking Point on 2 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: Real America's Voice News. 3 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us. 4 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 1: Another informative show for you so you can argue with 5 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: your crazy uncle at the Memorial Day barbecue tomorrow and Monday. 6 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: I want to wish everybody you know a great time 7 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: with their family this weekend and honor all those who 8 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: gave their lives for this country. I spend all morning 9 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 1: looking at the debt clock, and every twenty one seconds 10 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: we go another million dollars further in debt, and every 11 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: minute it's three million dollars, and every hour it's like 12 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty million, and every day it's four 13 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: billion dollars, four billion dollars a day in debt. And 14 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: by the way, New York City leaders are bragging about 15 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: a reduction in shootings and murders down about twenty percent 16 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: across New York City, but they leave out that rape 17 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: is up almost thirty percent, felony assaults and missed themeanor 18 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: assaults still at like twenty year highs. And in AOC's district, 19 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: crime is up since twenty nineteen since she took office. 20 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: You know, she cares about somebody. She's so compassionate. 21 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 1: Right, crime is up seventy percent, more than double the 22 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: citywide increase of thirty percent during that ten year. Since 23 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, and the one hundred and tenth precinct in 24 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:28,639 Speaker 1: queens encompasses the market of Sweethearts, a human trafficking den, 25 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: a prostitution mecca on Roosevelt Avenue. It's saw one hundred 26 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: and five percent surgeon crime, the highest increase of any 27 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: New York City precinct in the same five years. Good job, AOC, 28 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: Good job Democrats, You're so compassionate about the border. 29 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 3: Right. 30 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: I want to welcome our first guest with us, though, 31 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: because there's so much going on in the world and 32 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: it's hard to keep up, and we need an expert 33 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: opinion here on what's cooking over in the Middle East. 34 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: We have Yuri Kaufman, historian and legal expert and author 35 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: of American Intafada, Israel, The Gaza War, and the New 36 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: Anti Semitism. 37 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. 38 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having me. 39 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: It's great to be here, great to be with you, Yuri. 40 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: You know again, it's so hard to keep up what's 41 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: going on. You know, we did so many airstrikes against Yemen. 42 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: In the past few months, the Harry S. Truman Strike 43 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: Group engaged one hundred and sixty Bothy drones and missiles, 44 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: and we carried out six hundred and seventy strikes in Yemen. 45 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: It looks like Israel recalled their hostage negotiation team from Cotter. 46 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 2: Can you shed some light about what's the latest. 47 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 3: Well, the reason that Israel brought the negotiating team back 48 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 3: is there was no progress being made. The reason there 49 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 3: was no progress being made is that the Europeans recently 50 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 3: decided to back Hamas. 51 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 4: So Hamas is saying why should we settle? The Europeans 52 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 4: are going to rescue us. 53 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 3: And if you go back to the year twenty twenty 54 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 3: five or the same thing happened with Kamala Harris in July. 55 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 3: It was actually July seventeen, twenty twenty four, Israel killed 56 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 3: one of the leading I could say arch terrorists of Kamas, 57 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 3: I mean by the name of Muhammad death. He was 58 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 3: a legendary figure among Palestinians because he had survived seven 59 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 3: previous assassination attempts. They got him on the eighth try 60 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 3: and that really staggered Clamas. 61 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 4: And according to reports coming out of the region. 62 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 3: It was then that Kamas was finally starting to get 63 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 3: flexible on a hostage deal. 64 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 4: But then on July the twenty fifth. 65 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 3: Kamala Harris came out with her speech saying there's too 66 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 3: much suffering in Gaza and I won't remain silent, and 67 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 3: these were her last to stop and the next day 68 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 3: Kamas said, we're not coming to the talks. 69 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 4: And it was obvious what happened. 70 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 3: They listened to Kamalis speech and realized that if she 71 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 3: won the election, they would win the war. So why 72 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 3: free hostages, why negotiate? And that's what happened then, and 73 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 3: it looks like something similar that happened now. 74 00:03:55,960 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: Now we just had a release of Eden Alexander to 75 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: eighteen months in captivity. Tell us about that situation is 76 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: at a watershed moment? And what about the remaining fifty 77 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: eight hostages? 78 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 3: So it was a watershed moment in the sense that 79 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 3: even Alexander was freed without Israel freeing any murderers. They 80 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 3: didn't have to free any terrorists to get him out. 81 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 3: And it's obvious what happened. The Trump administration fights for Americans. 82 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 3: They said, Hamas, if you want to have dialogue with us. 83 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 3: If you want anything from us, you gotta free the 84 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 3: live American hostages. Now, the Biden administration knew that there 85 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 3: were eight such hostages at the beginning of the war, 86 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 3: and if they had taken similar action and just said, 87 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 3: Hamas you want something from us, you want us to 88 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 3: pressure Israel, the price for dialogue just talking to us 89 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 3: is you gotta free the eight Americans. We will never 90 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 3: know what would have happened, but I have to believe 91 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 3: the Kamas would have knuckled under it if they. 92 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 4: Had done so. It stands to reason that some of 93 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 4: the American. 94 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,799 Speaker 3: Hostages who are now dead would be alive, like, for example, 95 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 3: Hirsch Goldberg, Poland, who was murdered in a tunnel right 96 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 3: next to Yajia Sinoar, the leader of Kamas who masterminded 97 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 3: the attack. He was one of the principal hostages, protecting 98 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 3: Sinnoar himself, because of course, Thomas knows Americans are more valuable, 99 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 3: and it seems to me that Biden could have gotten 100 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 3: him out the way Trump got Eeden Alexander out. 101 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 4: Unfortunately it didn't happen. 102 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: Sure well, tell us about the latest incursion into Gaza. 103 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 2: What's the endgame here? 104 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 4: So it's a very good question. No one really knows 105 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 4: for sure. 106 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 3: The endgame is when this law of dust settles, Camas 107 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 3: is not going to be ruling Gaza, the hostages hopefully 108 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 3: will be free. I would just point out parenthetically that 109 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 3: Israel has put forth what has to rank as among 110 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 3: the most generous peace terms in the history of warfare. 111 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 4: And that's not an exaggeration. You had this. 112 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 3: Hideous attack on October the seventh. If you take it 113 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 3: as a percentage of the population, it would have been 114 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 3: the equivalent of forty five thousand Americans being murdered ten 115 00:05:58,480 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 3: thousand taken hostage. 116 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 4: Now the war is coming to an end. 117 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 3: The Israelis are not asking for any sort of compensation. 118 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 3: They're not asking for territory. They're not even asking for 119 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 3: a peace treaty. Stop and think about that one for 120 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 3: just a minute. The minimum of any war is that 121 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 3: the attacker must promise to not attack again. The Israelis 122 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 3: are not even asking for that. All they're asking is 123 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 3: that the hostages be free, that Kamas go into exile, 124 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 3: and that the Calmas terrorists give up their weapons. And 125 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 3: here we're seeing, you know, European countries and many, many 126 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 3: Democrats saying no, that's unreasonable. 127 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 4: We want to give Lamas a do over. You know 128 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:38,799 Speaker 4: it would because if the equivalent of I'm. 129 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 2: Sorry, no, go on finish, that'll be. 130 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 3: Equivalent of imagine if we're closing in on Berlin. We've 131 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 3: had this horrible, hideous war and now someone. 132 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 4: Says no, no, we got to stop. We got to stop. 133 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 3: The innocent German civilians are suffering. We got to leave 134 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 3: the Nazis in power, give them a doe over. They 135 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 3: say they're going to attack us again, but well, we're 136 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 3: going to stop because of those innocent civilians. 137 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 4: I mean, since nothing like this has ever happened in 138 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 4: the history of warfare. 139 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 3: If there's even one example anywhere, I would challenge anyone 140 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 3: to let me know what it is. 141 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 4: Certainly we never let our enemies off the hook. 142 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 3: I don't know why Israel has to be literally the 143 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 3: only country in the history of the world expected to 144 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 3: do this. And it's no secret who expects Israel to 145 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 3: do this is the left. 146 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 4: Donald Trump gets it. 147 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 3: Countries with right wing or even center right governments get it, 148 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 3: like Germany gets it, Hungary gets it. I could say Serbia, Italy, 149 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 3: many many others. 150 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 4: It's the left wing governments. 151 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 3: It's Mark Carney up in Canada, it's the government of Spain, 152 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 3: it's the government of South Africa. I mean they're taking 153 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 3: literally crazy positions that have no precedent in the history 154 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 3: of modern warfare. 155 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: Tell us about the impact, you know, it seems the 156 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: Abraham Accords and the other Middle East agreements signed into 157 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: play by Trump. Tell us about the effects of Abraham 158 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: Accords right. 159 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 4: Now, it's really pretty remarkable. 160 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 3: We have this horrible war, but the Abraham Accords have 161 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 3: survived the ultimate test, the test of a horrible war. 162 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:11,239 Speaker 3: United Arab Emirates has a tremendous amount of trade with Israel. 163 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 3: At the present time. It's measured in the buildings. It's 164 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 3: going up by double digits each and every year. This 165 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 3: is how you build peace. Unfortunately, shockingly, many people on 166 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 3: the left. 167 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 4: I've almost come out and condemned the peace treaty. 168 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 3: I mean, I remember Jay Street just called it nothing 169 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 3: but a business deal, which I think is ridiculous. John 170 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 3: Kerry said that it would be impossible to ever have 171 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 3: a peace deal without the Palestinians. 172 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 4: Remember the speech no, no, no, and no. 173 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 3: Well, it turns out for each no, there was a 174 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 3: peace deal four country signed peace agreements with Israel. One 175 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 3: final point and a very important one. The Nobel Peace 176 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 3: Prize has been given out to so many others. It 177 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 3: was given to Barack Obama for doing frankly nothing. We 178 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 3: have a truly historic peace deal between Israel four Arab countries. 179 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 3: That's double all the Arab countries that were with Israel 180 00:08:58,400 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 3: up to that point. 181 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 4: There were only two Egypt and Jordan. 182 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 3: With those four, you doubled that number. But somehow Donald Trump, 183 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 3: Benjamin and Yo and an Arab leader have not been 184 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 3: recognized with the Nobel Prize Committee. And it tells you 185 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 3: something about the Nobel Peace Prize that it's not just 186 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 3: about bringing peace to the world. It's also a branding issue. 187 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 3: If you're sent to right, they're not that interested in 188 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 3: honoring you. 189 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I have in about a minute just summarize 190 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: what happens if there's another hoothy attack like on the 191 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: Bengorian airport a few weeks ago. 192 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 2: The gloves off with Iran. 193 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 3: I don't think the gloves are off up with Iran 194 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 3: as far as America is concerned. I mean, America has 195 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:42,239 Speaker 3: resolved its issue with who these From Donald Trump's standpoint, 196 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 3: it's mission accomplished. 197 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 4: Trade has been resumed. That who They's have agreed. 198 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 3: Not to bomb shipping Israel is basically imposing the blockade 199 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 3: on the who these but Israel Mike Bomberron's nuclear capability. 200 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 4: We'll have to just wait and see what happens. 201 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: All right, great, really quick, tell our viewers about your book. 202 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: Where can they follow you on social media? 203 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 3: So I'm more you know, I'm kind of a twentieth 204 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 3: century kind of guy. I'm not that big on social media. 205 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 3: But the book is called American in Defata. It can 206 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 3: be got on Amazon, it is in certain bookstores. Books 207 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 3: doing quite well so far. We're really really proud of 208 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 3: that it Basically they'll find facts and that they won't 209 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 3: find elsewhere. 210 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 4: I can tell you that much. It's being distributed by 211 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 4: Simon and Schuster. 212 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 3: It's been fact checked everything in there is so far, 213 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 3: no one has found in inaccuracy in the book so 214 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 3: far alive, I can say Tom Friedman's books, which are 215 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 3: full of them. 216 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. 217 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 1: Well, I want to thank you so much for joining us. 218 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: Very insightful and I'd love to have you back on 219 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: the show. 220 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 4: Thank you so much. It was really great to be here. 221 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Yuri, everybody, Uri Kaufman. 222 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: And it's pretty incredible the turn of events here, and 223 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 1: it looks like there's some stability in the Middle East. 224 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: Trump's successful trip with the Saudis and Qatar. You know, 225 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: Qatar has sponsored terrorism around the world and the International 226 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: Brotherhood of Muslims and you know ices types, and but 227 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: we took the gloves off in Somalia. 228 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 2: I'm going to get into that when we come back. 229 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: The largest bombardment of any single aircraft carrier operation in 230 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: the history I think of the world happened in February 231 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 1: and it didn't get much coverage. And then when I 232 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 1: come back, we're going to talk about other stuff going 233 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: around the world. China expanding their nuclear program, North Korean 234 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: warship crashes on its launch, its maiden voyage, and more so, 235 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: don't go anywhere. Thank you for watching Breaking Point on 236 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: Real America's Voice News. I got some great guests ahead. 237 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about SpaceX and all kinds of 238 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: other stuff. 239 00:11:46,240 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 2: Thinks we'll be back. Welcome back, everybody. 240 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: You are watching Breaking Point on Real America's Voice News. 241 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining the family. So much 242 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: going on, if you blink, you're going to miss it. 243 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: I have some interesting news from around the world though. 244 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: You know, China is planning a major nuclear expansion, not 245 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: only being more reliant on coal China and India are, 246 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 1: but they are going to build ten new nuclear reactors 247 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: in China. So they are moving full guns and building 248 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: their infrastructure. I hope the United States follow suit. I 249 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: covered that last week with our audience, and we do 250 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: have plans to go mo nuclear. And I'm very excited 251 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: about these small module of reactors which will be online 252 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: by twenty thirty your power factory with them. They're very 253 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: small as opposed to like a nine hundred megawatt plant, 254 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: these things are like one to thirty five megawatch, so 255 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: it's really exciting technology. A North Korean warship crashed on 256 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: its launching. I think it was a freighter. In Somalia, 257 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: Navy planes carried out the largest airstrike in the history 258 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: of carrier strikes from the Harry S. 259 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 2: Truman. 260 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: It didn't get a lot of coverage, but they bombed 261 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: Al Shabab and ISIS targets in Africa in Somalia. 262 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 2: Pretty incredible. 263 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: Sixteen US Navy FA eighteen Super Hornets launched the largest 264 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: ever air strike from an aircraft carrier, dropping one hundred 265 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: and twenty five thousand pounds of ordnance on al Shabab 266 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: groups and ISIS groups hiding in caves in a cave network. 267 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: Pretty extraordinary stuff. In this South African farmer issue, you 268 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: know around a posa in the Oval office or in 269 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: the White House. You know, listen what's going on in 270 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: South Africa. These people are afraid down there, the white farmers. 271 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 1: Because we have to go back to Robert mcgabbi and Zimbabwe. 272 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: They did a similar thing a few decades ago, killing 273 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: and taking killing white farmers and taking away their land. 274 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: And Julius Malima of the National Assembly in South Africa 275 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: has called for the murder of white people who own 276 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: seventy four percent of the farms and only represent about. 277 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 2: Seven percent of the population. 278 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: There's a real threat there and it's something that we 279 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: have to watch and very important. But I want to 280 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: get two domestic issues right now. I'm so grateful to 281 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: have back with us. Mike Kucharski. He's the owner of 282 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: JKC Trucking, one of the largest refrigerated truck companies in 283 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: the US. 284 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 2: Mike Kuchowski, what's going on? Hey, thank you for having 285 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 2: me back on your show. Love to have you. 286 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: We've been talking for many years, you know, and it's 287 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: pretty incredible, you know, the cycles that we've been through 288 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: and the struggles after Trump left and Biden came in 289 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: and COVID and supply chain. But now we got a 290 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: new set of challenges. Some good news out there. Trump 291 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: puts an executive order in for truckers right to speak 292 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: English only. 293 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 2: Is that correct? 294 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 4: Correct? 295 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 5: There's been an executive order that the truckers have to 296 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 5: be proficient in English, and they're going to test the 297 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 5: drivers out there and to make sure that they can communicate, 298 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 5: and you know, so to be honest, this is the 299 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 5: biggest news in a long time for truckers because this 300 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 5: executive order, in my opinion, has two parts. One I 301 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 5: believe that it will only make the roads safer for 302 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:30,239 Speaker 5: all Americans. 303 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 2: And two it. 304 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 5: Will hate will help stabilize trucking market rates that carriers 305 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 5: desperately need, that are being undercut by rogue carriers. And 306 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 5: let me break that down to you. You know, no 307 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 5: matter first, no matter what country, you deliver goods, and 308 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 5: it's important to speak English. 309 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 2: Read the local. 310 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 5: Language for safety and compliance in the United States, road signs, 311 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 5: safety warnings, permits, The federal regulations all read in English. 312 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 5: When I took my commercial driver's license test, it was 313 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 5: an English not a new concept. So they're bringing old 314 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 5: law from twenty sixteen back or they're enforcing it now. 315 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 4: True. 316 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 5: But the second thing of this executive order, I think, 317 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 5: in my opinion, we have a lot of these drivers 318 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 5: that have these B one visa drivers, and these B 319 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 5: one visas drivers are also part of these I like 320 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 5: to call them road road companies that were set up 321 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 5: as fake trucking companies or shell companies, which the Federal 322 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 5: Motor Carrier with the Federal Motor Safety Carrier Association, is 323 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 5: currently investigating. You know, there's an estimate that could be 324 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 5: up to about seven hundred thousand drivers out there with 325 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 5: these visas. 326 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: You know. 327 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 5: Example, give an example, they found a building and signal Hill, California, 328 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 5: I listed as an address for almost seven hundred trucking companies. 329 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 5: Five hundred those trucking companies listed the same phone number 330 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 5: and also with the same email. The email was wtf 331 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 5: fms CSA at AOL. These companies are literally mocking the 332 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 5: federal Motor Care Safety Administration, which I pray that the 333 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 5: FBI somebody you know sends it email to these guys saying, hey, 334 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 5: party is over. You know we're coming for you. But uh, 335 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 5: yeah this this So we have two huge problems currently, 336 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 5: and the new administration has figured out an executive order 337 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 5: you know, almost like a silver bullet that hopefully could 338 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 5: kill two birds and one stone and and help everybody. 339 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. So two issues. 340 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: One is are there any numbers to support that it's 341 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: more dangerous on the roads because of this. And also 342 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: the second part of it is to these rogue companies, 343 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: are they able to skirt uh spending the money and 344 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: and the correct way to run a business in the 345 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: trucking industry? 346 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 4: No? 347 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, So so what I mean to these real companies, houses, 348 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 5: companies like myself, we're paying drivers, you know, we we 349 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 5: we worksman comp, we held for health insurance for one 350 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 5: k uh, we pay corporate tax. Our drivers pay income 351 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 5: tax because drivers are w W two's Uh they're and 352 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 5: these other druggy companies are not paying these things. You 353 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,719 Speaker 5: mean they're not paying corporate taxes. They're not well if 354 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 5: they are paying work than the comps, they're not paying 355 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 5: full amounts they're definitely not paying health insurance. And what 356 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 5: happens is you mean, this adds up to millions and 357 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 5: millions of dollars a year of overhead that they don't have. 358 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 5: So if you don't have this overhead and you're not 359 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 5: planning to be in business for the long term, I mean, 360 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 5: you don't even have to pay these things. You could 361 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 5: save money and then you can undercut the rates. And 362 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 5: the bigger issues right now, we're dealing with volume volatility, 363 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 5: which due to COVID and inflation. Everybody's fighting for the 364 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 5: same volumes because the volumes are low, and these guys 365 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 5: are coming in and even cutting it even more, which 366 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 5: is you know, killing killing all these uh you know 367 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 5: truckers that are complying fifty year old companies. 368 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 2: Sure, how about the safety of our roads? 369 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 5: Definitely, the safety are own Listen, I've been I've been 370 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 5: in this business for mean over over over twenty years 371 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 5: in houses. Truckers have a tremendous amount of responsibility out 372 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 5: there because we're not only on the roads with we're 373 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 5: on the roads with with our parents or children, our grandparents, everybody, 374 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 5: our families going to be and these drivers have to 375 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 5: know to understand certain things. Let me give you example, 376 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 5: when the drivers are screaming black ice. These drivers should 377 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 5: be able to understand these things so they don't make 378 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 5: cause an accident or cause a bigger accident. You know, 379 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 5: I mean to for the people's safety, simple things like 380 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 5: this low bridges we have in Chicago here. If a 381 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 5: guy can't read or low bridge, he's gonna get stuck 382 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 5: underneath a low bridge. About a couple of years ago, 383 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 5: we had that big lawsuit in Colorado where that one 384 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 5: driver got one hundred and ten years that he crashed 385 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 5: into a bunch of people. That driver was uneducated and 386 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 5: what he did was his brakes burnt up going down 387 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 5: a mountain, passed up several runaway truck ramps which are 388 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 5: there for trucks. Your brakes failed, that you go into 389 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 5: there and it stops the truck. He didn't know what 390 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 5: those things were, couldn't read those signs, passed multiple ramps. 391 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 5: That's why they give him one hundred and ten years, 392 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 5: and killed people on accident. He could have not killed 393 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 5: anybody at all. Obviously, then there was a big deal 394 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 5: about that. The governor had to get involved and lowered 395 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 5: his But those are perfect examples of these things happening, 396 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 5: and nobody wants to talk about these things. 397 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 1: How about the volume to shift gears? No pun intended. 398 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: How about the volume of trucking going on as the 399 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: tariff deals are hammered out? 400 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 2: Have you seen small businesses been held up? 401 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: I know a lot of them are saying that, you know, 402 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: they can't get parts. 403 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 2: They built their businesses around imports. 404 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: Ninety seven percent of businesses get you know, small businesses 405 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 1: import product. 406 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 2: What's going on and what do we have to look 407 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 2: forward to? 408 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 5: So it's too early to tell to feel the full 409 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 5: impact of these trade. 410 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 2: Wars, you know. 411 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 5: I mean we're only feeling bits and pieces now, but 412 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 5: we haven't gotten to that lag where China and the 413 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 5: whole everybody else shut off shipments to to the US, 414 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 5: which is coming up soon as it was to come up. 415 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 5: I want to believe the end of May or beginning 416 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 5: of the June. So we're gonna feel the full impact 417 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 5: or I mean, right now we're not feeling it, but 418 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 5: we're we're we're preparing for that, and then this is 419 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 5: gonna be It's gonna be horrible for rucking industry because 420 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 5: not only we down volume wise because of inflation. We're 421 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 5: going to be down more because of the executive order. 422 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 5: You mean, That's why I support that we move more 423 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 5: production to the US and we become more independent in 424 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 5: manufacturing and energy so we don't have to cross this 425 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 5: bridge in the future. I hope we learn a lesson 426 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 5: from from COVID. 427 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: Well, what about if the tariffs, you know, go down 428 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,719 Speaker 1: and it's say only ten or twenty percent. A lot 429 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: of businesses say they can't absorb thirty percent, you know, 430 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: So do you think it's just a temporary glitch and 431 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: we back, we will be back on track. 432 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 6: You know. 433 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 2: I mean, it's a good question. 434 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 5: I'm not economist. I can only guess as a business person, 435 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 5: you know. I mean houses, if maybe ten percent, if 436 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 5: I had a guess, I think that could be some kind. 437 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 4: Of absorbed or worked out. 438 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 5: Like I said, I'm just saying my opinion. But anything 439 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 5: more than that may might be hazard is even more 440 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 5: to the trucking industry, but houses, you know, I mean, 441 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 5: we're still making deals. The dust has not settled from 442 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 5: these trade wars. But I feel we're getting a traction. 443 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 5: And I like the pace we're moving at because we're 444 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 5: moving at pretty fast paced in my opinion. 445 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 2: All right, well that's good to know. 446 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: And you know Trump's bringing back what fifteen trillion back 447 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: to the US. It's going to take some time here. 448 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: Mike Ucharski from JKC Trucking. Always appreciate your valuable insight, 449 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: and I hope you have a great holiday weekend with 450 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:30,479 Speaker 1: your family. 451 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 2: You too, and thank you for your support. 452 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 1: Thanks Mike, talk soon. 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You're watching Real 474 00:23:43,800 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: America's Voice News once again. Thank you for joining us. 475 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,479 Speaker 1: You're watching Breaking Point on Real America's Voice News. My 476 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: parents watched the Space Race after John F. Kennedy said, 477 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: by the end of the decade, we're going to go 478 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: to the Moon. So exciting. When I was a kid, 479 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: I was the Space Shuttle, and when I was fifteen, 480 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: I was in the Air Force Auxiliary. I flew down 481 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 1: to Cape Canaveral in the back of a one thirty 482 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: Hercules and woke up. We slept in the webbing in 483 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: the back of the sea one thirty and when we 484 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: got off the plane, I had the T thirty eight 485 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: Chase planes for the Space Shuttle in front of US 486 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: at Cocoa Beach Naval Air Station, and then we got 487 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: a private tour of Cape Canaveral and the Space Shuttle 488 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: launch pad. It was really fascinating. But there's excitement again 489 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: about the space race, but not only because of space exploration, 490 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: but because of the ns issues SDI type operations, and 491 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: here to discuss that once again. She is a wealth 492 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: of knowledge, a PhD in astrophysics at Stanford University and 493 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: the author of Stars and Stripes, The Quest for American 494 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: Space Dominance. 495 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 2: Doctor Laura Finman. Welcome back. 496 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 7: Well, thank you. It's a pleasure to be on your show, David. 497 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 2: Thank you, you're welcome. 498 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: I love talking about this stuff and it's an exciting 499 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: time for a number of reasons. I mean, your background, 500 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: just to share with the audience again, you are a 501 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: NASA astronaut candidate in eighty nine, you oversaw a million 502 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: multimillion dollar contracts for commercial satellites and strategic Defense initiative. 503 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 2: We'll get into that. 504 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: And you're a STEM advocate, right and you are on 505 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: this Trump transition team for NASA. 506 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 7: Correct, that's correct, Yes, with three other people. It was 507 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 7: a real pleasure to be on that team to be 508 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 7: able to help. 509 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 1: So you made recommendations to the Trump administration on what 510 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: to cut, what to not cut, and tell us about 511 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: that experience and did they listen to you? 512 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 7: Well, it was It was a real honor to be 513 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 7: on that team. I was with three other very talented people, 514 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 7: and we each had our own area of expertise. So 515 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 7: we spent thirty long days kind of a crash course, 516 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 7: getting up to speed talking to all the people at NASA, 517 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,199 Speaker 7: all the you know, managers, the head of directorates, and 518 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 7: from that and understanding, you know, the vision that Trump 519 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 7: has for the next four years. We made recommendations for 520 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 7: the Trump administration and the next administrator to consider in 521 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 7: all the areas of science, technology, aeronautics, human spaceflights, you know, 522 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 7: just mission procurement, all of those things. And a lot 523 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:01,199 Speaker 7: of the recommendations that we made are reflected in the 524 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:02,479 Speaker 7: twenty twenty six budget. 525 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 1: So we're going to get into a NASA, you know, 526 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 1: struggling as a standalone organization. You know, they used to 527 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: be the gold standard, right, but now you've got private 528 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: sector coming in. Maybe it looks more like a partnership 529 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: going forward. But I want before we get into that 530 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about Golden Dome. Now, you're an expert, 531 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: and you were a contributor to our efforts with the 532 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: Strategic Defense Initiative holding patents correct back from the eighties. 533 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, I was with they called it Star Wars then 534 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 7: and I led a lot of the technology developments for 535 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 7: that and actually received quite a few awards for the 536 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 7: technology who developed in a patent for lasers in space 537 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 7: for space defense. So that was a very exciting time 538 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 7: under President Reagan. And the Golden Dome, I think Trump 539 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 7: just introduced that, I think a few days ago, and 540 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 7: that is an upgrade given all the new technology advances 541 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 7: to the SDI Strategic Defense Initiative, and it'll be you know, 542 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 7: it's designed to be protective of any missiles or coming 543 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 7: into the US from other countries, but also from space, 544 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 7: and that is something a Space Force will get involved 545 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 7: in in the infrastructure and the defense part of that 546 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 7: Golden Dome. I think there's an analogy with the Iron 547 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 7: Dome that Israel has. This is the Golden Dome for 548 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 7: the Golden Age. 549 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 2: Well it's not that. 550 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not the first time we've explored stuff like this. 551 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: And I was in the Soviet Union in eighty six. 552 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: I saw the military in the streets. They spent like 553 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: nine ten eleven percent of their GDP on a military 554 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: and we were spending three. But our advancements with star 555 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: Wars technology, the particle eye on laser beam and other things, right, 556 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: we really got the leg up, and we kind of 557 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: bankrupted the Soviets right exactly. 558 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 7: That It was a very significant geopluts to uh to 559 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 7: have made that development. It made them kind of back 560 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 7: off and changed changed everything. And I think the Golden 561 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 7: Dome has the same potential. 562 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: So Okay, So in the fifties and sixties, you know, 563 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: they have spot Nick, the Soviets and Yury Gagarin. The 564 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: Americans were scared. We were hiding under our desks in school, 565 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: you know. They were they were going to put a 566 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: nuclear blast in the atmosphere, right and take out all 567 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: our electronics. 568 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 2: That was the fear. 569 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: And we had Niger Nike Ajax hercules missiles up and 570 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: down the east and west coast right here on Long Island. 571 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: There's still silos, isn't this Haven't we always been wanting 572 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: a defense system for our or an umbrella for our country. 573 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 7: Absolutely, And I think with the development of hypersonics where 574 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 7: China and Russia are actually leading the US. 575 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 3: Uh. 576 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 7: You know, you need to adapt to being in that 577 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 7: dome to protect against these very high speed UH missiles 578 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 7: that are hard, that are very there's fast, they're hard 579 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 7: to track and to target. So that dome is critical. 580 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 7: And you can see Russia is using these hypersonic in 581 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 7: the in the war with Ukraine. China is leading in 582 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 7: the technology. We actually took a pause on the technology. 583 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 7: I think it was in the Obama years, maybe Biden, 584 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 7: but you know now we realize that was probably a 585 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 7: mistake and we're getting catching up really fast and advancing 586 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 7: that technology. Absolutely critical for us to be able to 587 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 7: be at the leading edge of hypersonics. But also in 588 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 7: the dome, you want the Golden Dome to protect you 589 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 7: from something that it's very very lethal, very dangerous hypersonics 590 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 7: missiles coming at you. They've also I think you know, 591 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 7: they've got missiles with multiple warheads that can also go 592 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 7: to different targets. That's another advancement of need to protect them. Wow. 593 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 2: Those yeah, yeah, the mervs. 594 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: The multiple re entry vehicles you can have one up 595 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: to like twelve warheads and an ICBM. We can target 596 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: twelve separate cities coming back into our atmosphere. 597 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 2: Right, it's very scary stuff. Uh. 598 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: And uh, you know we're going to get into China 599 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: and where they are going, uh and their investment. I 600 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: want to talk about that and the space program. I 601 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: just wanted to ask you though, how long before we 602 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: can have a Golden Dome type operations and what will 603 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: it include Canada? 604 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 7: I believe Trump mentioned about he wants it by the 605 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 7: end of his term, and I think he did want 606 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 7: to put an umbrella over Canada as well. Yes, and 607 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 7: but that's that's going to be quite Uh, it'll it'll 608 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 7: be a fast paced development to achieve that. But you 609 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 7: know when Trump wants, you know, he's very focused on it, 610 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 7: and I think it'll it'll happen. 611 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about quickly NASA, right. NASA had 612 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: a lot of setbacks the Space Shuttle to to you know, 613 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: the Columbia and the Challenger blowing up. It kind of 614 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: lost their edge, it seems like. And where does the 615 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: public private partnership, Where does the private partnership take over 616 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: from and will NASA start to take more of a backseat. 617 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of like maybe egos in 618 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: history there. 619 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 2: How is that going to How is that going to 620 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 2: play out? 621 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 4: I think. 622 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 7: The National Space Council and I think Trump administration is 623 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 7: really pushing expanding that commercial partnerships with NASA and by 624 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 7: doing things like you know, pulling back on the you know, 625 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 7: reducing the regulations that required by commercial partners, maybe less 626 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 7: control over the partners so they can move faster, you know, 627 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 7: do it cheaper, faster, and more innovatively. I think you'll 628 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 7: see definitely a direction in that. For example, in the 629 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 7: new in the budget that's been proposed, you can see 630 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 7: they're not funding past Artemis three. The Artemis was five 631 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 7: phases of going to the Moon and building a base 632 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 7: on the Moon, and it's become so expensive and so 633 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 7: behind schedule that the budget is kind of reflecting that. 634 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 7: After Artemis three, they're going to probably phase out their 635 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 7: big rocket, the Space Launch System by Boeing SLS, the 636 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 7: Lunar Gate Gateway Lunar Station, and also the Orion spacecraft 637 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 7: with Boeing, and that means you need a replacement, and 638 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 7: they're looking at my guess is they're looking more at 639 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 7: having commercial partners to do the transport of the crew. 640 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 7: The cargo, transport of the crew to the moon back 641 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 7: and get everything set up. 642 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: Well, it's really important stuff here, and we're going to 643 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: see where that goes. We put off our mission to 644 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: the moon again. Maybe the Chinese beat us there. We're 645 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: going to get into that when we come back from 646 00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: the break. Everybody talked to Laura Finman, PhD, astrophysicist University, 647 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: part of the Trump transition team for the Space Program. 648 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 2: Thank you for watching us. We'll be right back. 649 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna have Laura back for the next segment. 650 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 2: She's great. Thanks for joining us. 651 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 1: We always love seeing Maria from Switch to USA. 652 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 4: How are you. I am doing very well. 653 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 8: I am so pumped that we are here in Long Island. 654 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 3: Thank you. 655 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great. And I see you everywhere. 656 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: I saw you in Schnecksville, Pennsylvania, Wildwood, New Jersey. 657 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 4: Is there anyway you don't go? There is nowhere we 658 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 4: don't go. Absolutely right. 659 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,280 Speaker 1: You've been a supporter of a real America's voice breaking 660 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: point for some time. 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We love Maria, so great 670 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 2: to see you. 671 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 8: Thank you so much. 672 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:13,399 Speaker 4: David, we love you too. 673 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 9: Thank you everyone awesome, Thank you Maria. 674 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,320 Speaker 6: We all want to make a difference in our country 675 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,280 Speaker 6: and make change, but we don't all have the ability 676 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 6: to do so. A lot of people are busy. They 677 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 6: can't join school boards, they can't get on borough council, 678 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,240 Speaker 6: but they can change where they shop. And it's just shopping. 679 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 6: It's that simple. 680 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,439 Speaker 8: We're gonna link arms and we're going to shop right 681 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 8: here at this American factory. They make the products and 682 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 8: they're all natural and they're good for us and they're affordable. 683 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 8: Everything made here in the USA. 684 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,959 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Breaking Point on Real America's Voice News. 685 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: I hope you have great barbecues this weekend with your 686 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: family and remember all of those that gave their lives 687 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: and their service to their country, so you can do that. 688 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 1: And I want to thank you again for watching us 689 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,280 Speaker 1: today and joining the rav family. The new budget reconciliation, 690 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: the no tax on tips or overtime are in there, 691 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy five billion dollars for deportations in 692 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 1: the wall, tax relief for seniors, and making twenty seventeen 693 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 1: tax cuts permanent. A couple of things I'm not thrilled 694 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 1: about in there. But those things are great and we 695 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: have to keep going. But what happened to no tax 696 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: on Social Security? I have to follow up on that one. 697 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: And Mike Davis from the Article three project always on 698 00:36:59,040 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: the War Room. 699 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 2: I got to work work. 700 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,399 Speaker 1: With him when I covered the Trump trial last year 701 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 1: in New York City, the hush money trial, and he 702 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: gave all these reasons why you. 703 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 2: Know it's so important to deport the way we are. 704 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: You know, ten million illegal alliens in America at least 705 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 1: have come in in a last administration. A court hearing 706 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,879 Speaker 1: would take thirty minutes a pop. A judge would take 707 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,839 Speaker 1: thirty minutes to draft an issue in order. That's ten 708 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: million hours of judicial work. There's six hundred and seventy 709 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: seven authorized federal district judges. That equates to fourteen thousand 710 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: hours for each judge of work. So he points out 711 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 1: all this and we've never had to do with anything 712 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: like this, you know, since our founding. This is a 713 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 1: very unique circumstance here, and you know we have to 714 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 1: stay on track here. And how many lives did Trump 715 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 1: savority at the border from drug overdoses and crime from 716 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: illegals in America. 717 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 2: It's just a fact. It's huge. 718 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 1: And I know there's been big reductions in New Hampshire. 719 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's directly related to Trump's actions. 720 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: I know last year there was a reduction, but you know, 721 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 1: places like New Hampshi led the country per capita and 722 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 1: over those deaths. So I'm going to cover that and 723 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,399 Speaker 1: bring you more information, and just remember the top ten 724 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 1: lobbyist for twenty twenty five, or for twenty twenty four, 725 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 1: the top ten lobbyists the recipients of their money were 726 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 1: all Democrats. 727 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 2: The top ten, by. 728 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,839 Speaker 1: The way, and the top lobbyists of twenty twenty five 729 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 1: include the US Chamber of Commerce, Pharmaceutical Companies, National Association 730 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: of Realtors, General Motors, Blue Cross, American Hospital Association, the 731 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: American Medical Associations Meta, AARP, and others. So I got 732 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: to watch that and we're going to bring you more on. 733 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 2: That as well. But I want to welcome back. 734 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:46,479 Speaker 1: Astrophysicist Laura Finman, PhD. Laura, welcome back. 735 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 7: Well, thank you, glad to be back. 736 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 1: Yes, we have a lot to cover, so I'm going 737 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 1: to rifle through these China, their advancements, hunter killer satellites, 738 00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 1: their mission to the moon. Are they going to beat 739 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,800 Speaker 1: us back to the moon even though they've never landed 740 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,879 Speaker 1: on it before? We have six times? Tell us about 741 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 1: what's going on with China and are we are we 742 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: in jeopardy? 743 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,839 Speaker 7: I would say if we don't change direction, we are 744 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 7: at risk of them beating us to the moon. They 745 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 7: are looking at a twenty thirty landing on the Moon 746 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 7: with astronauts, and one thing about China is they do 747 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 7: meet their schedules, whereas we always delay. So one of 748 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 7: the I think very exciting directions that Trump is proposing 749 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,879 Speaker 7: for NASA is to really refocus NASA to you know, 750 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,839 Speaker 7: to make sure that we hold that strategic high ground 751 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 7: and beat China to the moon as well as you know, 752 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 7: being competitive and lower th orbits. So you'll see in 753 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 7: the new budget that that priority is to beat China 754 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 7: and to get there first. And if we don't that, 755 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,839 Speaker 7: we don't do that. If we keep things the way 756 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 7: they already are, we just won't make it. And so 757 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 7: it's absolutely critical. And I think, you know the goal 758 00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 7: is to get an outposter based on the Moon and 759 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 7: then also to get humans on Mars and eventually a 760 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,720 Speaker 7: sustainable city on Mars. I know Elon Musks is looking 761 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 7: at a SpaceX starship to Mars in probably twenty twenty 762 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 7: six when the Moon and the Earth Mars and excuse me, 763 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 7: the Earth are closer together, and he's looking at putting 764 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 7: an Optimus robot on that mission, which is kind of cool. 765 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 7: And then after that, you know, maybe twenty eight early 766 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 7: twenty nine, when the planets are close again, you'll look 767 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 7: at the human element. So a lot, a lot needs 768 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 7: to be done to make that happen. A very strategic 769 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 7: focus on human spaceflight. And there's also the reasons for 770 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,399 Speaker 7: that is you want, you know, if we don't hold 771 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 7: a strategic high ground, you know, there's an impact on 772 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:53,400 Speaker 7: national security, there's an impact on economic competitiveness and global influence. 773 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,799 Speaker 7: So absolutely key to be the leader. And Trump has 774 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 7: realized that and you're seeing that reflected in the budget. 775 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 1: It well, I can't wait for that video transmission of 776 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 1: the robot doing the Trump dance. 777 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 7: That's perfect. I love it. That's great. 778 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wanted to get into we have a little 779 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 1: bit more ground to cover here. The talent pool in 780 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 1: the space field in the United States. Is NASA suffering 781 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 1: and because the talent pool wants to go towards exciting 782 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 1: things like Blue Origin and SpaceX. 783 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:38,359 Speaker 7: Absolutely are I think you you know, young people graduating 784 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 7: or even people midsay are seeing SpaceX and the Blue 785 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 7: Origins and rocket labs as kind of things that are 786 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 7: moving faster on the cutting edge and more exciting. And 787 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 7: so you're seeing a lot of the real the new 788 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,919 Speaker 7: talent going in that direction. And even companies like Boeing 789 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 7: and Lockheed also struggle with this try to keep the talent. 790 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,880 Speaker 7: And so NASA has a chance challenge in how because 791 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 7: of their culture is more of a government. It's grown 792 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 7: into a government bureaucracy. I think in the sixties it 793 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 7: had more of that SpaceX culture and now you know, 794 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 7: over time being a bureaucracy. It's not even my own son, 795 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 7: you know, went into did a summer job there and 796 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 7: he just got so frustrated with the bureaucracy didn't want 797 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 7: to go back to work at NASSA. So I think 798 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 7: that is that has a change, that culture needs to change, 799 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,320 Speaker 7: and I think the UH, I think everybody's aware of 800 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,360 Speaker 7: it and wants to make the changes to make to 801 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 7: fix that. 802 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we didn't have you know, we didn't have 803 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 1: the computers back in the sixties and slide roles, engineers, 804 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:41,879 Speaker 1: talent that people got us to the moon. 805 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 2: It's pretty extraordinary. 806 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 1: But I wanted to talk to you about the STEM 807 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,360 Speaker 1: programs in the United States. Do we have enough STEM 808 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 1: students to man all of these ambitions that the US 809 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,319 Speaker 1: has and how do we get there if we don't? 810 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 7: Well, we don't. And you know, there's been a large 811 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 7: effort to get STEM integrated in the schools, but it's 812 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 7: really the needle's not really moving very well. I've done 813 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 7: a lot in trying to integrate into schools to get 814 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 7: more kids interested and excited about space, you know, collaborating 815 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,760 Speaker 7: with you know, MIT and NASA to do space programs 816 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 7: in the schools. But I think it's a big issue 817 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 7: in you know, the schools have got a traditional mindset 818 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 7: and when you look at what employer. You know, all 819 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 7: the data of what employers are looking for. The top 820 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,800 Speaker 7: six skills from all different directions are the STEM skills, 821 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,880 Speaker 7: and it is not The education system is not designed 822 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 7: to produce students to do that. And that's something I've 823 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 7: also been passionate about trying to see how we can 824 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 7: change that, whether it's in school or out of school. 825 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,360 Speaker 7: But we definitely But I do think that you know 826 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,240 Speaker 7: what Elon Musk is doing, what Jeff Bezos at Blue Origin, 827 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 7: you know, the young people are seeing that, and that's 828 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 7: what excites them, engages them into wanting to go into space. 829 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 7: Just like in this when we were younger, and I'm 830 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 7: you know, you're younger than me, David, But when I 831 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 7: was younger, it was Star Trek, it was you know 832 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 7: what happened, you know, nineteen sixty nine when they landed 833 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 7: on the mood. That's what excited me to want to 834 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 7: be an astronaut. I think that just making you know, 835 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 7: what's happening now is I think also exciting kids as 836 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 7: well to get in that direction. 837 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 1: Well, you know, NASA was half to me when I 838 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 1: was in school. They said I took up space. So 839 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 1: I'm just kidding, but listen, I really really appreciate you know, 840 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 1: all that you've accomplished. And without people like you, you know, 841 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 1: we wouldn't be doing what we're doing. 842 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 2: And it's really commendable. 843 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 1: And the level of you know, of thought and science 844 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 1: that goes into this. You know, people can't even tie 845 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 1: their shoes out there, so we need And they say, 846 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,319 Speaker 1: students one hundred years ago were more well read and 847 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 1: we're better in math than they are now. So I 848 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:03,359 Speaker 1: hope we're not just the TikTok generation and we get 849 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 1: we get on track. Can you tell our viewers where 850 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 1: they can get your book? And and why did you 851 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:12,880 Speaker 1: write it? 852 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:14,759 Speaker 9: Uh? 853 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,719 Speaker 7: Well, it's on Amazon. And the reason I wrote it 854 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 7: is I wanted more of a layman's version so that 855 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,240 Speaker 7: the general a general person could understand what's happening in space. 856 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 7: Like a lot of times people go, well, why are 857 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 7: we spending money on space? You know, what is the urgency? 858 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 7: And I think it's just really critical to understand how 859 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 7: important it is. You know, Russia and China are demonstrated 860 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,360 Speaker 7: in space they can take out satellites. That means, but 861 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,279 Speaker 7: our whole economy, our whole life is around you know, 862 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 7: GPS and phones and financial networks. If they take those out, 863 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 7: you know, we're going back into the dark ages for 864 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 7: a while. So it's absolutely critical to be advancing in space. 865 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,480 Speaker 7: Not to mention the enormous amount of resources out there, 866 00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 7: there's like a quadrillion kind of dollar economy in space 867 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 7: if you get it developed. And I think I did 868 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 7: want to mention one thing that a key technology that 869 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,880 Speaker 7: really will create a big golden age of space or 870 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 7: a boom is that fully reusable rocket. You know right now, 871 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 7: you know SpaceX you've seen is that can bring back 872 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,480 Speaker 7: the booster stage and you saw that amazing video where 873 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 7: they brought it back and grabbed it with arms. But 874 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:28,480 Speaker 7: he's designed starship now to the upper stage. Is they 875 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:29,719 Speaker 7: want to get that reusable. 876 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:30,720 Speaker 4: And if they can get. 877 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 7: That fully reusable, the cost to launch is so much less. 878 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 7: The frequency of launching comes up, and then you're going 879 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,920 Speaker 7: to it opens up the market, especially in the United States, 880 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,800 Speaker 7: for a lot of companies to participate and really energize 881 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 7: that commercial market. 882 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and SpaceX just launched twenty three Starlink satellites from 883 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,240 Speaker 1: Florida in the first launch with its new Falcon nine booster. 884 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,719 Speaker 2: Very exciting. I got to say, I know a lot 885 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,239 Speaker 2: of young people that have. 886 00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:03,279 Speaker 1: A renewed peaked interest in science and space exploration, but 887 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:09,040 Speaker 1: especially defense because whoever controls space will have dominance. And 888 00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,879 Speaker 1: I want to thank you, Doctor Laura Lorna Finman. Where 889 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 1: can people follow you on social media? 890 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:20,920 Speaker 7: I think my Twitter Doctor Laura Finman at doctor Laura Finman, 891 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 7: and I have an Instagram with the same name and Facebook, 892 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,440 Speaker 7: but I'm mostly on the on Twitter. 893 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, I want to have you back. I 894 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,400 Speaker 1: love talking about this stuff and your wealth and knowledge. 895 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,960 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, and enjoy your weekend with your family. 896 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,200 Speaker 7: Thank you my pleasure to be on your show, David, 897 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 7: Thank you all right. 898 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,520 Speaker 1: Yes, we'll be back with more next week. Don't go anywhere, 899 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,319 Speaker 1: stay tuned to all the Real America's Voice news coverage, 900 00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:50,279 Speaker 1: and we'll see you soon.