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Speaker 1: Welcome in Tuesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate

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Speaker 1: all of you hanging out with us. Six weeks from

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Speaker 1: today is election day. Either you account this day and

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Speaker 1: it's forty two, or you don't and it is forty one.

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Speaker 1: Other either way, it is getting very very close. Many

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Speaker 1: of you out there every single week adding on to

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Speaker 1: the ability to.

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Speaker 2: Get your early vote in.

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Speaker 1: We encourage all of you to move as expeditiously as

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Speaker 1: possible to get your votes in, as we've been saying

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Speaker 1: on this program, because when you vote, it allows lower

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Speaker 1: propensity voters to be targeted and buck. All of the

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Speaker 1: data that continues to roll in shows this thing as

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Speaker 1: being super super close. I'm going to play some cuts

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Speaker 1: for you from a variety of different media sources breaking

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Speaker 1: that down. But this morning there was a poll from

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Speaker 1: New Mexico which shows Kamala Harris up eight points digits

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Speaker 1: in New Mexico. If you were listening to us in Albuquerque,

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Speaker 1: thank you. Biden won New Mexico by eleven states eleven points.

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Speaker 2: Sorry.

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Speaker 1: There are lots of discussion points surrounding North Carolina, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada,

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Speaker 1: and Arizona. Those are the seven so called battleground states.

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Speaker 2: But I think it's.

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Speaker 1: Important not to ignore the data that is coming in

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Speaker 1: from other states. Whether it's Virginia, whether it is New York,

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Speaker 1: whether it is New Mexico. There are a lot of

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Speaker 1: states out there that Biden won, many of them by

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Speaker 1: double digits. Yesterday we talked about Minnesota that are all

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Speaker 1: showing Trump doing better in those states than he did

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty against Biden, which means if I had

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Speaker 1: to make a prediction right now, as we sit six

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Speaker 1: weeks out, I'm very comfortable that Trump is going to

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Speaker 1: do better than he did in twenty twenty, and that

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Speaker 1: Kamala is going to do worse than she did than

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Speaker 1: Biden did. And just using this New Mexico poll as

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Speaker 1: an example, buck the difference between Biden winning by eleven

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Speaker 1: and Kamala winning by eight in New Mexico, if it

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Speaker 1: were translated nationally, is the difference between Biden winning and

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Speaker 1: Trump winning a landslide.

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Speaker 2: If Trump were able to.

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Speaker 1: Improve on his twenty twenty overall numbers by three points,

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Speaker 1: that would flip all of the close states into his

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Speaker 1: margin of victory, but it would mean that the electoral

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Speaker 1: college is not even particularly close. So when we're talking

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Speaker 1: about a fine line margin of error difference, we're not

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Speaker 1: just talking about who wins. We're talking about how close

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Speaker 1: the election could be at all. And while we're paying

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Speaker 1: a lot of attention to the seven battleground states, I

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Speaker 1: think it's important to also be recognizing that Trump is

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Speaker 1: running ahead in some states he may not win, like

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Speaker 1: New Mexico, like Minnesota. Of the numbers that he posted

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: I think it's looking great for Trump. I've been saying

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Speaker 2: this for months now. I think that he's ahead. It's

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Speaker 2: his election to lose. But you know, it's still plenty

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Speaker 2: of time between now an election day that the numbers

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Speaker 2: as I see them, unless somehow the polling you know,

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Speaker 2: polling companies that are doing this have dramatically changed their

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Speaker 2: methodology from the last two elections, which I find highly

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Speaker 2: unlikely based on the way they've done it before. Trump

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Speaker 2: should be just fine to get the votes he needs

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Speaker 2: for a win here in the electoral college. How big

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Speaker 2: it is, who knows? Will there be a couple of surprises. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: nobody can predict this stuff with one hundred percent accuracy,

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Speaker 2: And if you try and you're wrong. You can end

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Speaker 2: up buying someone a very expensive stake, which then you

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Speaker 2: see on your credit card bill and you have a

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Speaker 2: minor heart attack. But anyway, yes, it is. It is

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Speaker 2: the case that I think Trump is doing quite well.

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Speaker 2: And I this is always true, right, how much of

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Speaker 2: it is the greatness of your team and how much

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Speaker 2: of it is the weakness of the other team. I

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Speaker 2: truly believe that Kamala Harris is the worst Democrat nominee.

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Speaker 2: I mean in my adult lifetime. Certainly, I can't you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to think back, like to caucus. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I was a baby, you know, I mean, you know

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Speaker 2: you were in your thirties. Yeah, but I was a baby.

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Speaker 2: And sure enough, I feel like even if you were

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Speaker 2: remember anyone saying this guy is completely vapid and empty

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Speaker 2: like a Massachusetts liberal and got smoked. I will say

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Speaker 2: that this was fun this morning. On first of all,

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Speaker 2: turn on Morning Joe. I'll tell you not inspiring. They're

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Speaker 2: not inspiring. The communists over at Morning Joe. Right now,

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Speaker 2: it's a lot of just the most boring repetition of

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Speaker 2: like threat to democracy and like world leaders won't respect us.

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Speaker 2: I find this fascinating, the notion that I give a

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Speaker 2: flying anything clay about world leaders won't respect us. First

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Speaker 2: of all, no world leader that I care about is

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Speaker 2: going to respect Kamala Erris as president. And no world

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Speaker 2: leader that I care about if I care about any

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Speaker 2: This is absurd. So that's one part. But there's not

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Speaker 2: a lot of inspiration going on. Joe Kernin on CNBC,

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Speaker 2: I'll look go over at CNBC where they have, you know,

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Speaker 2: little bit more realistic. I want you to hear when

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Speaker 2: he talks to surrogate for the campaign for the Kamala campaign,

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Speaker 2: Chris Coons, He asks me about a rope adope strategy.

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Speaker 2: Listen to this play ten.

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Speaker 3: As she would come on, we could get answers to

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Speaker 3: a lot of these things. And I'm just wondering, as

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Speaker 3: a surrogate that advises the campaign there is an effort

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Speaker 3: to rop adope this thing right to the election.

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Speaker 2: In my view and in the.

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Speaker 3: Other sides, done forty or fifty interviews with JD.

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Speaker 2: Vance.

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Speaker 3: I think I don't have to take my shoes off

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Speaker 3: to count on my fingers and nose how many interviews

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Speaker 3: that she's done, along with with Governor Waltz. And that

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Speaker 3: looks like a deliberate effort just not to face the

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Speaker 3: hard questions. We would like to know somebody, we'd like

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Speaker 3: to see questions asked and answers provided for all these things,

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Speaker 3: and we may.

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Speaker 2: Never get that way, like a forty days left Clay

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Speaker 2: very fair, right, Yes, there's nothing about that that he's

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Speaker 2: not even being aggressive or pushing on this. He's just like, hey, man,

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Speaker 2: can Kamala answer some questions for the American people? Wouldn't

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Speaker 2: that be nice? This is campaign surrogate Senator Kons talking

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Speaker 2: about well, you'll listen to it play eleven.

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Speaker 4: We just had Vice President Harris say yes, let's do

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Speaker 4: another presidential debate and Donald Trump say no. And you

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Speaker 4: have to agree that a nationally televised hour long debate

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Speaker 2: So it was just sitting down with an interview with anyone.

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Speaker 2: You just notice that they can't. They can't. It's indefensible.

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Speaker 2: Clay is the point they have to pivot to, like, well,

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Speaker 2: what about the debate that she suddenly said she wants

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And look, there is no doubt to me. The

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Speaker 1: Democrats strategy can be boiled down to two things. One

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Speaker 1: is hide Kamala scarily. The second is kill Trump because

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Speaker 1: they you know, we talked about the other day, Buck.

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Speaker 1: The data has now come out. Thirty percent of Democrats,

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Speaker 1: actually admitted that they are rooting for Trump.

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Speaker 2: To be killed. Didn't I say on the show that

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Speaker 2: we said them with what? I didn't see that data.

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Speaker 2: I just said, I'm telling you there's a huge portion

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Speaker 2: bought into the idea, the lie that he is hitler.

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Speaker 2: And so there are a not insubstantial number of people

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Speaker 2: it would be successful, and so hide Kamala. We don't

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Speaker 2: know what she believes.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I saw I was reading this morning in

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Speaker 1: Axios Buck, they ask Kamala, who had said previously that

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Speaker 1: she supported ending prohibitions on prostitution, basically that she was

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Speaker 1: gonna not make it a crime. Whatever you think libertarians

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Speaker 1: she still has that opinion. It's not only that she's

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Speaker 1: flip flopping frequently, it's that when she's directly asked, okay,

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Speaker 1: you said in twenty nineteen that you wanted to end

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Speaker 1: she won't answer questions.

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Speaker 2: It's as though Kamala Harris thinks she can plead the

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Speaker 2: fifth on matters of policy, like she's voting president. She's

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Speaker 2: not taking a position one way or the other. And

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Speaker 2: I did flip on Morning Joe today just for to

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Speaker 2: try to see what the other side is saying, as

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Speaker 2: I always do. And I took a screenshot of this

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Speaker 2: to win this election? Say, because what is Kamala's policy

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Speaker 2: on anything? Really? You're not really sure, and if you

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Speaker 2: thing a few days ago to which the normal person's

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Speaker 2: response would always be, why isn't Kamala saying it? I

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Speaker 2: haven't heard her talk about that at all. And I

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Speaker 2: mean things like the economy and the border and crime

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Speaker 2: the whole campaign is such a fraud. It's mind blowing.

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Speaker 1: Well, and that's why, ultimately, I don't think anything that

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Speaker 1: things very much. Kamala has basically stood for and against

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Speaker 1: every single issue on the planet, and she's not answering

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Speaker 1: lots of questions such as, hey, what do you think

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Speaker 2: What do you think?

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Speaker 1: I mean, she just won't to answer questions. And so

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Speaker 1: this is turnout election. And for those of you out

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Speaker 1: there listening to us every day between now an election day,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna say the same thing, go vote.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think all of you listening to us

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Speaker 1: right now, I would bet, in fact, if you're not

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Speaker 1: If you're an undecided voter, I would love to hear

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Speaker 1: from you. At this point listening to this program, I

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Speaker 1: don't buy into their very many undecided voters. I think Buck,

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Speaker 1: there are people who are undecided if they're willing to vote,

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Speaker 1: go out get your vote counted? All those things that

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Speaker 1: kind of say that makes more sense to me, Yes,

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Speaker 1: being just out on both candidates.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, I'm very supportive of Trump, wanted to win, but

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying the the thinking there, I can understand

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Speaker 2: the I'm not sure if I like Kamala or Trump

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Speaker 2: more to lead the nation for four years at this

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Speaker 2: point that I don't understan. Yeah, I agree, but I'm curious,

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Speaker 2: are are you listening to us? Is there anybody out

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Speaker 2: there still vacillating, still going back back and forth? You're

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Speaker 2: unsure if you're Trump, You're unsure if you're Kamala. I

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Speaker 2: would like to hear from.

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Speaker 1: You, because I would genuinely be wondering, what are you

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out? At this point, six weeks out

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Speaker 1: and again, turnout is going to decide this election decides

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Speaker 1: most elections that are close. Who is better able to

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Speaker 1: mobilize their supporters and get them out. Where is the enthusiasm.

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Speaker 1: And let's be honest, Kamala is going to spend more money.

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Speaker 1: I flagged something bucks. Since August she spent five hundred

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Speaker 2: do not want to go to a surgeon in Canada.

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Speaker 2: My friends, okay, have some of our Canadian friends. We

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Speaker 2: got listeners up north a they can call in and

436
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Speaker 2: tell everybody. You do not want to wait six months

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Speaker 2: for your operation or more, or wait six months to

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Speaker 2: see a specialist. There are all these things that are

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Speaker 2: giant mess. You know, here in Florida, you drive the airport,

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Speaker 2: what do you see everywhere everywhere? Ambulance chasing, lawyer advertising. Yes,

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Speaker 2: it is so bad that a lot of doctors in

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Speaker 2: Florida can't get insurance. You know this for delivering babies. Yes,

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Speaker 2: and you know this is something you can imagine your

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Speaker 2: wife is pregnant, you want to get you can't even

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Speaker 2: have insurance, so they have to pay into this like

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Speaker 2: accident pool, which is kind of a run around on insurance.

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Speaker 2: And they call it going bareback by the way when

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Speaker 2: they have when they have no insurance. Yeah, they just

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Speaker 2: have to deal with it. It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: One of my best friends that went to law school

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Speaker 1: with is a medmole defense attorney. So basically all he

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Speaker 1: does is defend doctors. And different states have different laws

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Speaker 1: as it pertains to what is allowed to occur. But

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Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, if I could fix any one thing

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Speaker 1: in America today, it would be the healthcare system because

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Speaker 1: it's completely broken. It's illogical even the way we do

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Speaker 1: insurance doesn't make sense. We connect insurance to jobs, which

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Speaker 1: basically makes the employer have to pay massively regularly increasing insurance.

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Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, here's the frustrating thing. I

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Speaker 1: bet there's er docs listening to us right now. A

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Speaker 1: lot of the healthcare isn't very good. So you're getting

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Speaker 1: people going to the wrong doctors. You're getting people not

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Speaker 1: able to go to the right doctors. Heck, how many

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Speaker 1: of you out there right now listening to me have

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Speaker 1: wanted to go see a doctor for some specific issue

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Speaker 1: that you have and you have to go to a

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Speaker 1: general practitioner first to get a referral to go see

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Speaker 1: the doctor that you need to go see. And the

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Speaker 1: data all reflects on top of all this buck you know,

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Speaker 1: about half the healthcare that we get is completely unnecessary

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Speaker 1: because doctors are terrified they're going to get sued, so

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Speaker 1: they run unnecessary every test to try to make sure

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Speaker 1: that they can't get accused of negligence because they didn't

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Speaker 1: order this particular test. The profit margin on some of

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Speaker 1: these tests is through the roof, so they're also incentivized

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Speaker 1: in a in a perverse way to drive up the

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Speaker 1: amount of medical care they give.

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Speaker 2: To people.

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Speaker 1: And the end result is I don't think most people

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Speaker 1: out there feel like they're getting very good coverage. And

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Speaker 1: none of this has anything to do with cost, which

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Speaker 1: is the number one way that we decide almost everything

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Speaker 1: in America is by cost. You at least know what

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Speaker 1: something cost. I mentioned this in the first hour. I've

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Speaker 1: had three We've had three kids. You go tour the

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Speaker 1: hospital's buck they give you like, hey, we have bamboo floors,

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Speaker 1: we have Wi Fi, we have like ocean sounds for delivery.

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Speaker 2: They never tell you what it costs.

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Speaker 1: I asked, I'm like, hey, why are you not competing

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Speaker 1: on price? It's you choose where to go. And they're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: we don't know about your insurance. We don't like to

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Speaker 1: get in. They couldn't even tell me where I was

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Speaker 1: gonna have to pay to have it.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's a game that they engage in anyway, and

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Speaker 2: we'll come back to the Haitian migrants working situation in

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Speaker 2: a moment, But there's a game that they engage in

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Speaker 2: Clay where you said that actually they charge you less

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Speaker 2: if you don't have insurance. But there's also the other

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Speaker 2: side of it where sometimes especially for specialty things, they

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Speaker 2: because they have a deal with the insurance company to

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Speaker 2: charge a certain rate. They can also end up charging

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Speaker 2: you a lot more if you pay out of pocket

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Speaker 2: because they think you have the money. Correct. So the

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Speaker 2: whole thing is they don't want They just want to

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Speaker 2: figure out how to extract as much as possible from

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Speaker 2: whatever they can extract from. Yes, so if they think

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Speaker 2: you can pay, you'll end up charging. That's how you

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Speaker 2: pay the most. If they think you can't pay and

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Speaker 2: you don't have insurance, then they'll charge the least. But

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Speaker 2: they want to keep open the option always of billing

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Speaker 2: your insurer and getting as much from the insurer as possible.

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Speaker 2: A whole things mess.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, My wife, who you know well too, was got

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Speaker 1: the two bills basically in the same month, and she said,

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Speaker 1: how in the world did you only have to pay

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Speaker 1: twenty dollars to go for one of our kids, I think,

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Speaker 1: to get a strep throat test or something, and the

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Speaker 1: other kid had another issue, and you know, it ended

519
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 1: up like hundreds of dollars. And she called and they said, oh,

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Speaker 1: we marked your husband down as not having insurance for

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Speaker 1: whatever reason, so we don't charge anything there.

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Speaker 2: I went to an er because I was hoping to

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Speaker 2: give me IV because I had a stomach bug years ago.

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Speaker 2: I was living in I was like completely wasted with

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Speaker 2: food poisoning or something. And I remember I walked in

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Speaker 2: and waited so long that I left. I waited three hours. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: couldn't get anyone to see me, you know, give me

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Speaker 2: an IV bag or a like that, because I was

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Speaker 2: completely dehydrated. You know, I got a bill. What do

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Speaker 2: you think the bill was for? For like ibuprofen or

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Speaker 2: like tile and all or something. They took my blood

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Speaker 2: pressure and then sat me back in the weight room.

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Speaker 2: What do you think they charged me? It's two hundred

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Speaker 2: and thirty dollars, eleven hundred bucks. I got a bill

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Speaker 2: for eleven hundred dollars because someone came out, took my

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Speaker 2: blood pressure and said okay, and then sat me back

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Speaker 2: in the waiting room. Yeah. I mean it's a broken system.

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Speaker 2: So it's completely broken. And by the people that tell you,

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Speaker 2: like Bernie and Kamala. I mean, it's funny. I'm remembering

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Speaker 2: all the battles about Obamacare. Now that was just a

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Speaker 2: cost shifting program that massively expanded medicaid, and we're going

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Speaker 2: bankrupt as a country by the way overwhelming Obamacare, the

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Speaker 2: coverage increases, we're actually medicaid as in healthcare welfare, and

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Speaker 2: we can't afford this. By the way, all these migrants

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Speaker 2: are going to be getting medicaid and they're not going

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Speaker 2: to be paying federal income tax. So how's that supposed

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Speaker 2: to work out for the budget. But look at us,

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Speaker 2: we just got on a big healthcare discussion. We weren't

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Speaker 2: even planning on it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, nobody's it's it's funny. I mean, it's hardly

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Speaker 1: a discussion.

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Speaker 2: Point.

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Speaker 1: Oh, you brought up that there's very little discussion about

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Speaker 1: the health care costs as I have you heard Trump

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Speaker 1: talk about healthcare on any of the I I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying he hasn't.

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Speaker 2: Someone's going to say, as he did. I have not

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Speaker 2: heard him talk about health caare in this cycle that

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Speaker 2: I can remember. I haven't heard Kamala talk about it.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 1: But I mean even in the debate, you know, we

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Speaker 1: get questions about jan six. I mean probably by far

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Speaker 1: the thing that people care about the most is health

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Speaker 1: insurance rates. I know, if you run a business, what

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Speaker 1: you have to pay And to your point, to me,

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Speaker 1: this ties in directly with the migrant thing. They are

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Speaker 1: never going to pay their healthcare bills. Yes, trust me,

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Speaker 1: you listening to this, you're going to pay, and they're

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Speaker 1: going to raise your premiums to do it for all

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Speaker 2: Miranda Divine. Know only do we think she is great?

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Speaker 2: President Trump does too. Put out this on truth Social

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Speaker 2: The Great Miranda Divine understood the harsh reality of the

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Speaker 2: Laptop from Hell before the fake news media would even

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Speaker 2: acknowledge its existence. Now Miranda has written another blockbuster book,

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Speaker 2: The Big Guy. How a President and his son sold

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Speaker 2: line Today Miranda, congrats again on the book and the

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Speaker 2: shout out from the other big guy, President Trump.

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Speaker 7: How you doing, thanks, Bucking Clay. I'm doing really well

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Speaker 7: and very happy and thrilled that Donald Trump has actually

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Speaker 7: endorsed the book. That's terrific.

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Speaker 2: How much of this is it feels like it's kind

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Speaker 2: of a sequel to Laptop from Hell or you know,

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Speaker 2: the next you know, the next phase of the story

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Speaker 2: and and what what's really the focus I mean it

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Speaker 2: feels like, just from the title alone, you want America

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Speaker 2: to know this really wasn't about a guy taking selfies

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Speaker 2: and tidy whiteies with aviators on, meaning Hunter, there's bigger

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Speaker 2: issues here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: One, it is a sequel, and it really is about

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Speaker 7: the cover up. You know, the laptop from Hell and

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Speaker 7: all our reporting we did that got censored from Hunter.

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Speaker 7: Biden's abandoned laptop tells the story of the sort of

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Speaker 7: Biden family influence. It's peddling, but you know, that's a

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Speaker 7: big story, and corruption is as old as Washington itself,

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Speaker 7: and it showed us that Joe Biden the president, was

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Speaker 7: potentially compromised by China because of the millions of dollars

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Speaker 7: his family had brought in.

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Speaker 2: But I think the.

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Speaker 7: Biggest story, and the story that sort of evolved only

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Speaker 7: after we started reporting out the truth from the laptop,

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Speaker 7: was the cover up, which began the minute the New

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Speaker 7: York Post published on October fourteen, twenty twenty, And we

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Speaker 7: had a big tech Facebook and Twitter sense of the

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Speaker 7: story immediately lock our account for two weeks until a

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Speaker 7: couple of days before the election. And then you had

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Speaker 7: these former intelligence officials fifty one I call them the

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Speaker 7: dirty fifty one who signed that letter falsely claiming that

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Speaker 7: the laptop and our stories were Russian disinformation. What we

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Speaker 7: found out in the four years since is just mind boggling,

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Speaker 7: the concerted f that by. It wasn't just former intelligence officials,

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Speaker 7: it was the CIA. The CIA director herself, Gina Haspell

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Speaker 7: at the time under Donald Trump, she signed off on

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Speaker 7: that letter. She was shown the letter before it was

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Speaker 7: issued to the public, and she okayed that she gave

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Speaker 7: it the green light. And we also found out that

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Speaker 7: several of the signatories of that letter were actually active

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Speaker 7: contractors for the CIA at the time. And then we

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Speaker 7: also later find out other interventions by the CIA, including

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Speaker 7: into the investigation of Hunter Biden in Delaware that dragged

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Speaker 7: on for five years because the Department of Justice was

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Speaker 7: obstructing and hobbling the investigators. Anytime they tried to find

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Speaker 7: out a follow any of the evidence trails from Hunter

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Speaker 7: Biden to his father, who was intimately involved in this corruption,

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Speaker 7: they were blocked. They were told, no, you can't have

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Speaker 7: a search warrant on Joe biden property. No you can't

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Speaker 7: geolocate the phones that were on Joe Biden's property that

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Speaker 7: Hunter Biden was telling his Chinese business partners that he

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Speaker 7: was sitting in a room with his father and his

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Speaker 7: father was angry that the money hadn't come through. They

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Speaker 7: weren't allowed to interview Kevin Morris, who you know Hunter's

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Speaker 7: business partners call Hunter Biden's latest sugar brother, the Hollywood

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Speaker 7: lawyer who basically bankrolled his lifestyle and also paid up

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Speaker 7: to six million dollars for him, including for his IRS

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Speaker 7: over due i RS taxes, and Kevin Morris. The CIA

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Speaker 7: apparently called in the DOJ the prosecutors and told them

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Speaker 7: that he was off limits for their investigation, and the

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Speaker 7: IRS investigators who became whistleblowers, were never told why they

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Speaker 7: weren't allowed to interview Kevin Morris, but eventually the prosecutors

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Speaker 7: they worked with said, well, we got called to Langley

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Speaker 7: and they said leave off. There were so many instances

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Speaker 7: and it was not just the CIA, the FBI, and

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Speaker 7: the State Department, as I said, the Department of Justice,

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Speaker 7: the IRS. They all conspired to cover up the corruption

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Speaker 7: and ensure at the twenty twenty election that Joe Biden

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Speaker 7: would win and that none of the derogatory information that

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Speaker 7: we'd uncovered would see the light of day.

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Speaker 1: Miranda, you brought this story out in October of twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: We know it was one hundred percent true, yet it

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Speaker 1: was censored. As you've laid out, this new book discusses that,

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Speaker 1: how concerned are you about a twenty twenty four version

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Speaker 1: of what happened in twenty twenty and if it were

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Speaker 1: to occur, what do you think it might look like?

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Speaker 1: As certainly that rigging may well have given Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: the election in twenty What are you concerned about as

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Speaker 1: you look six weeks out here from this election, Well, that.

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Speaker 7: Is top of mind. And I think that's why I

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Speaker 7: wrote the book. Because the same people who covered up

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Speaker 7: and protected Joe Biden really throughout his career, from his

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Speaker 7: earliest days in the Senate at the age of twenty

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Speaker 7: nine point thirty, they are now propping up Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 7: And it's seek no surprise that in her sort of

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Speaker 7: endorsement speech at the DNC in Chicago a few weeks ago,

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Speaker 7: that she made a point of talking about the military

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Speaker 7: and the military industrial complex, basically her support for them.

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Speaker 7: It's no surprise that yesterday you had Vladimir Zelenski, the

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Speaker 7: Ukrainian president intervene in our election just as early voting

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Speaker 7: was starting in Pennsylvania. He flies into Pennsylvania to go

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Speaker 7: and stand alongside Kamala Harris surrogates and signed bombs in

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Speaker 7: a factory there, and he was flown in by US

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Speaker 7: military aircraft. This is the most outrageous intervention by I

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Speaker 7: guess you call it the National Security State or the blob,

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Speaker 7: as the Obama people used to call that sort of

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Speaker 7: triumvirate of the State Department, the CIA, and the Pentagon.

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Speaker 7: They I mean, even this week there were seven hundred

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Speaker 7: and forty one members of these high ranking officials of

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Speaker 7: the National Security State who signed a letter endorsing Kamala Harris,

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Speaker 7: if you can believe it, as a serious and capable

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Speaker 7: commander in chief, far superior to Donald Trump. And I

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Speaker 7: think really the agenda is this that Donald Trump as

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Speaker 7: president presided over a period of remarkable calm and peace

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Speaker 7: around the world. On foreign affairs, he treated everything the

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Speaker 7: way he treated a domestic policy, just like a developer

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Speaker 7: from a property developer from Queens was practical, first principles, logical,

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Speaker 7: just tried to fix problems the safest and quickest and

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Speaker 7: cheapest way possible and most effectively.

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Speaker 8: And he did that.

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Speaker 7: And we saw in the Middle East and the Abraham Accords,

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Speaker 7: we saw the Vladimir Putin unlike under Obama and under Biden,

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Speaker 7: he did not invade Ukraine. We saw isis defeated. We

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Speaker 7: saw Iran on its knees, completely broke and unable to

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Speaker 7: fund any of its proxies to attack Israel. You know,

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Speaker 7: several of its high ranking people were wiped out by

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Speaker 7: Donald Trump. North Korea was in its box. You know,

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Speaker 7: you would think for the American people, for America's national interest,

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Speaker 7: all of that would be beneficial. And yet no, because

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Speaker 7: these national security apparachiks who are completely out of control.

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Speaker 7: They are a shadow government. And their puppet was Donald

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Speaker 7: was sorry, was Joe Biden. Their new puppet is Kamala Harrison.

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Speaker 7: Of course, her sidekick Tim Waltz, who plays the same

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Speaker 7: role that Joe Biden did for Obama as being the

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Speaker 7: sort of foreign policy guy who's completely captured by China.

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Speaker 2: Miranda Devine with us the Big Guy, How a President

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Speaker 2: and his Son Saw that America Her book that is

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Speaker 2: out today, sequel to her best selling Laptop From How

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Speaker 2: Go Get Your Copy? Miranda I know, you wrote a

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Speaker 2: piece of The New York Post. We didn't spend much

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Speaker 2: time on this on the show. I kind of wish

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Speaker 2: we had dove into a little more. So this is

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Speaker 2: our first opportunity. Biden had a cabinet meeting on Friday,

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Speaker 2: but Jill Biden was running the cabinet meeting, which I

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Speaker 2: think is fair to ask, considering Biden clearly has cognitive

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Speaker 2: decline from age. Is Jill Biden the de facto president now?

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Speaker 2: Because I don't think we signed up for doctor Gilder

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Speaker 2: on things.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, she certainly thinks that she's pretty important. There

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Speaker 7: she was on Friday, as you said, presiding over a

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Speaker 7: cabinet meeting, sitting at the head of the tape able

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Speaker 7: expounding on some pet ridiculous project of hers, and then

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Speaker 7: you know, around the table cabinet members, including sitting right

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Speaker 7: next to her, the CIA director William Burns, had to

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Speaker 7: dutifully applaud her, while Joe Biden's just staring vacantly into space.

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Speaker 7: I mean, if anything, he's gone downhill since his disastrous debate.

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Speaker 7: Whatever they were doing to prop him up and make

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Speaker 7: him seem relatively rational, they seem to have given up doing.

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Speaker 7: We hardly ever see him. He had to come out

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Speaker 7: of his box, of course over the weekend because he

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Speaker 7: had the prime ministers from India and Japan and Australia

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Speaker 7: arrived for that really important Quad meeting which is about

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Speaker 7: sort of stemming China's aggression in the Indo Pacific, and

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Speaker 7: instead of having them at the White House as they

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Speaker 7: were last time, as they should be, they were insulted

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Speaker 7: by being having to schlep all the way out to

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Speaker 7: Wilmington to Joe Bidenen's hometown stay in subpar lodgings, while

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Speaker 7: Jill Biden took over the White House for her own

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Speaker 7: pet projects, and she had, for instance, the cast of

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Speaker 7: the West Wing there for a party, and she had

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Speaker 7: some educators confab on another day. So there was just

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Speaker 7: no room for the leaders of two billion people to

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Speaker 7: talk about how to stop China from taking over half

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Speaker 7: the half the world.

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Speaker 1: Miranda, what do you think would happen if China invaded Taiwan?

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Speaker 1: But who would actually make decisions in the White House

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Speaker 1: right now?

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Speaker 7: Look, I think it's really frightening to think who is

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Speaker 7: making the decisions. Obviously, Joe Biden is in no state

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Speaker 7: to answer the phone at three o'clock in the morning.

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Speaker 7: He's in no state to control the nuclear arsenal. It's

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Speaker 7: shadowy people. It's Tony Blink, and it's Jake Sullivan, It's

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Speaker 7: whoever at the Pentagon. It's this shadow cabal, the shadow

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Speaker 7: government that's controlling things, that will do whatever it takes

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Speaker 7: to ensure that Donald Trump is not president again. And

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Speaker 7: I mean whatever it takes. You know, they are desperate

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Speaker 7: and they think that Donald Trump is an existential threat

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Speaker 7: not to America, not to democracy, but to their own power,

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Speaker 7: their own control of things. So I honestly cannot tell you.

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Speaker 7: I don't think anyone can really tell you what's going

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Speaker 7: on behind the scenes. Some people say that Obama is

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Speaker 7: pulling the strings from around the corner. That could be

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Speaker 7: the case. So he has a lot of his people

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Speaker 7: stashed there at the White House running and the DOJ

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Speaker 7: running things.

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Speaker 1: What do you think, Miranda, last question for you, and

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Speaker 1: we appreciate encourage everybody to go get the new book

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Speaker 1: that is out that is rocketing up bestseller list. What

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Speaker 1: do you think or how long maybe it's a better

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Speaker 1: way to phrase it, how long do you think it

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Speaker 1: will be until we get the true story of Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden behind the scenes, and how decrepit and frail he

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Speaker 1: has really been. Do you think before he leaves a

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Speaker 1: couple of months after the inauguration of whoever wins, what

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Speaker 1: does that look like for the historical record.

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Speaker 7: Well, I think that all the journalists in Washington who

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Speaker 7: knew exactly what was going on, will be in a

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Speaker 7: huge arms race to see who can get you the

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Speaker 7: book out first and get the biggest advance. So they

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Speaker 7: won't be were they'll be writing it right now, and

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Speaker 7: they'll push the button after the election, because of course

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Speaker 7: they won't want to damage Kamala Harris's prospects because she's

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Speaker 7: better than anyone except probably Jill Biden and Hunter Biden.

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Speaker 7: What Joe Biden's cognitive state was like. They were supposed

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Speaker 7: to be having lunch every week that sort of peetered

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Speaker 7: off to just semi regularly. But she was also boasted

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Speaker 7: about being the last person in the room when decisions

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Speaker 7: were made. She knew exactly what was wrong with him,

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Speaker 7: and yet she lied through her teeth to the American people,

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Speaker 7: telling us that he was sharp as attack and brilliant

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Speaker 7: and ready to run another term and no problem at all.

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Speaker 7: I guess she was hoping that he would stumble across

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Speaker 7: the finish line win the election so that she could

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Speaker 7: just be anointed without having to go through the discomfort

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Speaker 7: of an election. But she's hardly really putting yourself out.

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Speaker 7: I wouldn't call what she's doing campaigning.

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Speaker 2: Go get the book the big guy. How a president

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Speaker 2: and his son sold out America. Miranda. We're big fans

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Speaker 2: over here. Thanks for all the work you do, and

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Speaker 2: we'll talk to you again soon, hopefully celebrating Trump's win

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Speaker 2: after this election.

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Speaker 7: But we'll see Thanks so much, fucking Clay.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us on this Tuesday. We

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Speaker 1: talked with Miranda Devine last hour. She has got her

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Speaker 1: brand new book out today, joining us now. The vik

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Speaker 1: Ramaswami also has his brand new book that is being

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Speaker 1: released today. It is called Truths the Future of America. First,

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Speaker 1: the weik I saw you out in La a couple

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Speaker 1: I understand you're in New York right now. What should

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Speaker 1: people know about the Well, we'll get to the book

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Speaker 1: in a sec. What do you think is the status

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Speaker 1: of the election based on everything you're seeing six weeks

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Speaker 6: So, look, I think for the horse race part of this,

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Speaker 6: I would say it's dead heat. At the presidential level,

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Speaker 6: I'd give President Trump the advantage, and frankly from calling

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Speaker 6: out like I see it, I think we're at a

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Speaker 6: disadvantage in the Senate races in critical states. So I

867
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Speaker 6: could really foresee a scenario where President Trump is successfully

868
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Speaker 6: elected without a clear majority for Republicans in the Senate.

869
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 6: That's the way things are trending, but a lot could

870
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Speaker 6: change in October. Now. My warning call, and this is

871
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Speaker 6: also part of why I wrote this book at I

872
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 6: intended its publication date right now ahead of the election

873
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 6: as a warning call that we were warned of a

874
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 6: red wave that we were going to have in twenty

875
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Speaker 6: twenty two. Well it never came, and I think we're

876
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Speaker 6: at risk of something similar happening in twenty twenty four

877
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 6: unless we level up and actually articulate not just the

878
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 6: policies that were against from the other side, but a

879
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 6: strong vision of what we actually stand for. And if

880
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 6: we do that, I think that this could actually the

881
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 6: tide could turn both the presidential level and the Senate

882
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 6: in our direction in a big way. And that's a

883
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 6: big part of the call to action, the lighting the

884
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Speaker 6: fire under our feet that I hoped to achieve with this.

885
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Speaker 2: Book, you know, Vivik, We asked some undecided voters to

886
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 2: join us in the first hour call in and tell

887
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 2: us what was on their list of concerns, and a

888
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 2: big discussion about healthcare was started as a result of that,

889
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 2: which is not something that the media has been very

890
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Speaker 2: focused on nor honestly either campaigned. And I'm wondering if

891
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Speaker 2: you were to try to articulate what is and I

892
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 2: know you have a background in pharmaceuticals, if you were

893
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 2: to articulate what an America first healthcare program looks like?

894
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 2: What does it sound like? I mean, what should President

895
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Speaker 2: Trump pursue and what can he do?

896
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Speaker 6: So one of the dirty little secrets is that actually

897
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Speaker 6: one of the top focuses of AHHS Health and Human

898
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 6: Services is actually on the illegal mass migration crisis. Not

899
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 6: a lot of people appreciate that that's actually one of

900
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 6: the most important functions because a lot of those illegals

901
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 6: are routed in to AHHS pursue into a lot of

902
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 6: these and a lot of not only the MSCY programs,

903
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 6: but a lot of the migrant care programs. So I

904
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 6: think the first thing we've got to do is make

905
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 6: AHHS well, so all the immigration crisis that actually puts

906
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Speaker 6: HHS back in admission of making America and Americans the

907
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,919
Speaker 6: healthiest country on the planet. That actually has not been

908
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 6: part of the job of an AHHS bureau before. It's

909
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 6: really been the job of kind of a health accountant

910
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 6: instead of actually being ambitious about up making the country

911
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,280
Speaker 6: as healthy as we possibly can be. At a moment

912
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Speaker 6: where we've been in life expectancy increases for a very

913
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Speaker 6: long time, we're seeing that trend turn against us. You're right,

914
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 6: it hasn't been a major issue for either candidate in

915
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Speaker 6: this race, and I think it's because some of the

916
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Speaker 6: areas where you'd have to stake out a policy claim

917
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Speaker 6: could be controversial, And what do you do with the

918
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Speaker 6: continued funding of medicare Medicare versus Medicare advantage. Now that's

919
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,760
Speaker 6: a you know, gets into some technical details we probably

920
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Speaker 6: want to go into. But Medicare advantage is one where

921
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Speaker 6: people are able to choose private health insurance plans offered

922
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Speaker 6: via Medicare versus centralized Medicare, which has far less options

923
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Speaker 6: and far poorer outcomes. And this is something that you know,

924
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Speaker 6: I think we ought to focus on after the election.

925
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Speaker 6: It's not a top question that I think is going

926
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Speaker 6: to move voters just because it requires so much education

927
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Speaker 6: between now and election day. But the more we're talking

928
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Speaker 6: about improving the health of Americans, the more we can

929
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Speaker 6: also say we have the bandwidth to do it once.

930
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Speaker 6: AHHS is not occupied with dealing with the effects of

931
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Speaker 6: the man illegal immigration crisis in the country, and I

932
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Speaker 6: do think President Trump has been outstanding in repeatedly bringing

933
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Speaker 6: attention to that issue. Any Way that wouldn't have been

934
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Speaker 6: the case. Is if you know a different person were running.

935
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Speaker 2: You're in Ohio.

936
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Speaker 1: Midwest is going to decide this race, probably Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin.

937
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Speaker 1: How would you handicap the Midwest based on what you're

938
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Speaker 1: seeing and how over the next six weeks do you

939
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Speaker 1: think the closing argument should and will be played out

940
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Speaker 1: across those Midwest battlegrounds.

941
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Speaker 6: So I'll give you where I'm drawing my pulse from.

942
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Speaker 6: I went to the University of Pittsburgh last week, spoke

943
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Speaker 6: a bunch of college students in Pennsylvania that are Pennsylvania voters.

944
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Speaker 6: I did a town hall in Springfield, Ohio, not far

945
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Speaker 6: from where I live. We sent out a social media post.

946
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Speaker 6: I expected some number of people to show up. Turns

947
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Speaker 6: out some order of two thousand people RSVP'd, and several

948
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Speaker 6: hundred packed the room that day and really got a

949
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Speaker 6: pulse for the town. And I'm headed to Wisconsin to

950
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Speaker 6: do a rally myself tomorrow. And so I've got a

951
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 6: finger on the pulse. And something you can't get from

952
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Speaker 6: the polling is just the energy, the sixth sense for

953
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Speaker 6: the energy you get on the ground. I think Donald

954
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 6: Trump has a major advantage in those Midwestern states where

955
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Speaker 6: people really have seen prices go up at a steeply

956
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 6: faster rate than their wages. And I think that that

957
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 6: fact just is a backdrop fact that works deeply in

958
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 6: President Trump's favor. Doesn't matter the rhetoric, doesn't matter what

959
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 6: people might have as fringe policy disagreements when their prices

960
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 6: have gone up faster than their wages have. That creates

961
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,879
Speaker 6: a level of discontent. And twenty nineteen wasn't that long

962
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 6: ago that they remember what it felt like back then

963
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 6: as well. I think the effects of the border crisis

964
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Speaker 6: have now spilled into not just Texas and Arizona, but

965
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 6: are now spilling into the Midwest too. That's relatively more recent,

966
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 6: the effects of massive illegal migration being so palpable for

967
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Speaker 6: people in Michigan and in Ohio and even in states

968
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 6: like Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, and so I do think that

969
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:06,280
Speaker 6: those factors point pretty favorably for President Trump in those states.

970
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 6: You do have Senate candidates in multiple of those states

971
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 6: that are still trailing. They're Democratic competitors, and so what

972
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 6: that says is people have been pretty thoughtful. That should

973
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 6: give us more confidence in President Trump's numbers because they're

974
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 6: saying that, Okay, I'm not sure about the Senate candidates

975
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 6: in these respective states, but I do remember what those

976
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 6: four years like were like under Donald Trump, and that's

977
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 6: why I'm still voting for Donald Trump, even if I'm

978
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 6: less certain of who I'm voting for for US Senate,

979
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 6: which gives me more confidence in that.

980
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,240
Speaker 2: We're speaking of Aviake Ramaswami, his new book out today,

981
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 2: Truths the Future of America First and Vivek. To that end,

982
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 2: Let's just say you're a senior advisor in the next

983
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 2: Trump White House. I'm very confident Trump's going to win.

984
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 2: But I know people yell at me and say stop stop,

985
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 2: you know, jinxing it or whatever. But I think that

986
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 2: this time around we're looking good. Anyway, Let's say you're

987
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 2: a senior advisor and are able to help shape what

988
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 2: is at the time of the agenda for America first,

989
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 2: and it really would have to be in the first

990
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 2: two years of his presidency, as we know he's only

991
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 2: got one more term. What is it? What are the

992
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 2: top issue one or two? One or two issues that

993
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 2: you would say, mister President, we got to get on

994
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,280
Speaker 2: this and we got to make big strides on it.

995
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 6: So I'll make it succinct. And both of these are

996
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,280
Speaker 6: at the heart of my new books. That's how today.

997
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 6: Two mass deportations. Okay, one is the mass deportation of

998
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 6: millions of illegals who are in this country against the law.

999
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 6: But that's in division. We also require a second mass

1000
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 6: deportation of the millions of unelected federal bureaucrats out of Washington,

1001
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 6: b C. And I think those two things basically save

1002
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 6: the country. That's how you save a nation. First, as

1003
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 6: if we have an immigration system that makes sense in

1004
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 6: the country where the only people who enter the United

1005
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 6: States of America are those who benefit the United States

1006
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 6: of America, and do it pursue to the rule of law.

1007
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 6: That's solved one of our two major crises in this country.

1008
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 6: And the second is the fact that the people people

1009
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 6: we elect to run the government, they're not even the

1010
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 6: ones who actually run the government anymore. Change that by

1011
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 6: firing seventy five percent of the bureaucrats, shutting down agencies

1012
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 6: that shouldn't exist, rescind unconstitutional federal regulations that are wielded

1013
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 6: by these lawless three letter agencies. If we do that,

1014
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 6: that's the single greatest economic stimulus you could give our economy.

1015
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 6: But it also gives us a shot in the arm

1016
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 6: of reviving self governance and our pride in our country.

1017
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Speaker 6: So this is a common thread through the book. I

1018
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 6: think probably have a chapter on the border in the

1019
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,240
Speaker 6: book and about what we could do to fix immigration

1020
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 6: in a way that hasn't yet been talked about, even

1021
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 6: by Republicans. But I think the most important part of

1022
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 6: the book, and I think the most important part of

1023
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 6: a governing agenda, would actually be to make sure we

1024
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 6: have three branches of government in the United States again,

1025
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 6: not four, and to shut down those three letter agencies

1026
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,439
Speaker 6: and the four million federal bureaucrats work there. We don't

1027
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 6: need seventy five percent of them. And I think if

1028
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 6: we're able to take that head on early on in

1029
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 6: the second Trump term and how you save a republic,

1030
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 6: that is how you stimulate an economy. And those issues

1031
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 6: sometimes bore people when you talk about the administrative state

1032
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 6: or whatever. But one of the things I try to

1033
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,240
Speaker 6: do in this book, and especially probably the most important

1034
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 6: chapter in the book, is that one on the bureaucratic state,

1035
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 6: is to make it accessible, to make it actually explain

1036
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 6: how that's impacting the lives of every day American. That's

1037
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 6: not somebody else's academic concern, but that is the concern

1038
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 6: and the root cause of the cancer in our country.

1039
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Speaker 6: And so I hope people you know who read the

1040
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 6: book are able to be armed with those arguments in

1041
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 6: a way that they might not be if they're debating

1042
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 6: their friends on the left. I want them to come

1043
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 6: out on the winning side of those debates, and that's

1044
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 6: why I wrote this book.

1045
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Speaker 1: Last question for you, of Ave, can we appreciate the time,

1046
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 1: good luck with the book, encourage you guys to go

1047
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 1: check it out. How concerned are you about the censorious

1048
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: media environment in the country today and that if Kamala

1049
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: Harris wins, what do you think that would do to

1050
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: the marketplace ideas, whether it's coming down on Elon, we

1051
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 1: already know the impact that Facebook and other outlets have

1052
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: felt based on their being attacked by, for lack of

1053
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 1: a better word, the Biden administration.

1054
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 6: Look, I'm worried about the censorship culture in the modern

1055
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 6: West and particularly in the United States of America. What

1056
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 6: you had over several years is the government threatening tech

1057
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 6: companies to censor speech or else face government backlash, and

1058
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,879
Speaker 6: why they've become the instruments of state power. You've see

1059
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 6: that continue under the Biden administration. Thankfully, some of that

1060
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 6: has been exposed. Elon Biden Twitter was a major milestone,

1061
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 6: not just for Twitter, but because it put the other

1062
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 6: companies on notice that they were now at least facing

1063
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 6: competition in the marketplace of ideas. So am I worried

1064
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 6: about it? You're darnk right, I am. But I am

1065
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 6: also encouraged by the fact that people in this country

1066
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,479
Speaker 6: have woken up to no longer swallow what they're force fed.

1067
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 6: I think we didn't have a culture of complacency in

1068
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 6: the country where you didn't see the level of skepticism

1069
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 6: from ordinary citizens in the public that you do today

1070
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,919
Speaker 6: seeking information out not just because MSNBC or CNN told

1071
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 6: them something that they believe it, but that they have

1072
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 6: to actually view what they're fed, even by the government,

1073
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 6: with skepticism. So in sometance culturally, I'm encouraged, But I

1074
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Speaker 6: think that it is going to be a pro censorship

1075
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 6: environment if Kamala Herris is the president, just as it

1076
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 6: was under Joe Biden, and I think that we can't

1077
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 6: live through that for too long. And that is, if

1078
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Speaker 6: I had to summarize the thesis of Truths to the

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Speaker 6: book in one line, it is that the path to

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Speaker 6: truth runs through free speech and open debate. There's no

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Speaker 6: such thing as an opinion that is rightfully censored. What

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Speaker 6: does free speech mean? I mean people lose track ofness.

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Speaker 6: Does that mean you can threaten somebody know, doesn't mean

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Speaker 6: you can engage in commercial fraud. No, but the easiest

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Speaker 6: way and I talk about this in the book as well,

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Speaker 6: easy ways to explain to your friends on the left

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Speaker 6: or on the other side what it actually means here

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Speaker 6: I do it. In the case of free speech, it

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Speaker 6: means that you get to express any opinion because this

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Speaker 6: thing is a wrong opinion that can't be expressed. It's

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Speaker 6: too wrong to be expressed. That's what America has founded on.

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Speaker 6: And so if we're clear headed about these things, because

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Speaker 6: they always bring up, well what about the fraud or

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Speaker 6: what about the hate speech or the threat? Well, hate

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Speaker 6: speech is an opinion, a threat is a threat. Those

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Speaker 6: are two different kinds of speech. And in America, when

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Speaker 6: we say free speech, it means all opinions get to

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Speaker 6: be expressed. And that too, is I think at the

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Speaker 6: heart of saving our country. It's at the heart of

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Speaker 6: my new book, and I hope that people are able

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Speaker 6: to stand for this ideal of free speech. It's in

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Speaker 6: most important ideals this country was founded on, and I

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Speaker 6: think it is one of the issues at stake in

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Speaker 6: this election as well.

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