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Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to The Two Pros and a

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Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Hold on, Welcome in here.

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Speaker 2: He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian though in for the crew

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Speaker 2: today and fired up. I'll tell you what, Jeff, you

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Speaker 2: and I are.

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Speaker 3: We're ball addicts over here, right we are certified ballaholics,

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Speaker 3: and ball meaning football is right around the corner in

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Speaker 3: terms of it, meaning like counting for real. Right now.

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Speaker 3: We got a little little or dervs ride, a little salad,

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Speaker 3: little preseason action to tide us over, But the real

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Speaker 3: stuff is right around the corner, my friend. That's a

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Speaker 3: beautiful thing.

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Speaker 4: I was thinking yesterday about how much fun I had

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Speaker 4: watching football this week and how we won't get it

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Speaker 4: I think until Saturday. Again. I don't think there's any

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Speaker 4: weekday games in the preseason this week, and so it

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Speaker 4: made me really sad. I very much enjoyed, Like yesterday,

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Speaker 4: I wasn't watching the games hardcore, especially the second game.

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Speaker 4: I just was watching the end of the golf yesterday

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Speaker 4: and watching baseball and cooking dinner like it just on

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Speaker 4: the background. I had baseball on my iPad and flipping

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Speaker 4: back between the end of the FedEx Jude Championship with

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Speaker 4: Tommy Fleetwood again just can't get home. The poor guy

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Speaker 4: can't win a tournament. But it was nice to just

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Speaker 4: be like, oh, you know what, I'm gonna listen to

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Speaker 4: the fourth quarter of a football game while I make dinner.

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Speaker 4: That was just very enjoyable.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very cool. And it's funny too, because I

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Speaker 3: felt like that too. The NFL did a very good

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Speaker 3: job of spacing the preseason games out. Yes, they're like, hey,

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Speaker 3: here's a couple on Thursday, here's a couple of Friday,

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Speaker 3: here's a bunch on Saturday, here's two more on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: And by the time the Sunday games rolled around, the

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Speaker 3: last one was the Saints at the Chargers. And even

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Speaker 3: though Tyler Shuck, who's the second round pick. He could

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Speaker 3: be a week one starter for the Saints. There's just

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Speaker 3: no juice, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's also the stadium. They're playing in a dead

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's part of it too, But man, I mean

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Speaker 3: you compare it to Shador Sanders. Chadour is the guy

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Speaker 3: that is the limelight guy right now. He's the lightning

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Speaker 3: rod for opinions to be shared far and wide, and

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Speaker 3: he had a really good debut. It's funny. We talked

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Speaker 3: about this a little bit yesterday on Countdown Jeff, But

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Speaker 3: if you look at Shadoor Sanders and pretty much anybody

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Speaker 3: else in the draft, Tyler Shock second round pick might

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Speaker 3: be a week one starter. Cam Ward number one overall

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Speaker 3: pick going to be a week one starter, and they're

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Speaker 3: like the oh, by the way stories Compared to Shaduur Sanders,

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Speaker 3: we all know falls to the fifth round, but he

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Speaker 3: started the first preseason game, played really well, and it's

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Speaker 3: just been opinion city all things should Doure Sanders and

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Speaker 3: every other rookie quarterback is like, you know, page page B,

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Speaker 3: page D whatever type news in comparison, it's wild.

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Speaker 4: Well, think think about this that Shadur Sanders and the

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Speaker 4: Browns were playing at the same time as cam Ward

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Speaker 4: was playing, right, Yeah, and what game was the national

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Speaker 3: It's the Browns.

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Speaker 4: The Browns game was.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, number the.

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Speaker 4: Number one pick in the draft, Kim wore I think

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Speaker 4: he's the least talked about number one pick we've ever

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Speaker 4: seen in our lifetime. I don't think there's even a

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Speaker 4: close second. Yeah, he's picked first overall. Now, part of

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Speaker 4: it is where he went. I mean, the Titans are

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Speaker 4: not a popular team in America. I'd argue like this

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Speaker 4: in our in just the lexicon in the NFL. But

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Speaker 4: it's still kind of crazy. He was the first pick

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Speaker 4: and I get the storyline of Shadur is a lot

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Speaker 4: different and that's why he is looked upon that. Plus

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Speaker 4: he was playing, and it was right they build him

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Speaker 4: Kim Warden, I think played just two drives. He looked

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's the wild thing is if Shadure was

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Speaker 3: drafted by the Titans, they would be talked about like crazy. Still, yeah,

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Speaker 3: They're not one of those, you know, go to type teams.

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Speaker 3: But man if Shadur went there, they all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: a good debut, right. His stats, if you're into that

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Speaker 3: a tweet from Lebron that I actually agreed with Jeff

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Speaker 3: where he essentially said, I'm paraphrasing He's like, and don't

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Speaker 3: give me that it's just preseason type stuff, because if

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Speaker 3: he's stunk it up, everybody would make a big deal

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Speaker 3: out of it, and there's some truth to that, and

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Speaker 3: I think for Shadeur in particular, there's a lot more

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Speaker 3: that we're looking at every single throw and all the

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Speaker 3: critics are just waiting to pounce on any mistake. And

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Speaker 3: he played pretty well. You got to give him his

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Speaker 3: flowers for that first preseason start.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so let's talk about the preseason and I'll get

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Speaker 4: to Sanders all tying together, Brian, Okay, yeah, so the preseason.

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Speaker 4: I know it's not a judged like this by everyone,

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Speaker 4: but I could just talk about myself, Okay, the way

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Speaker 4: I look at the preseason, and I'm not someone you

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Speaker 4: work with me for a while now, I'm not someone

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Speaker 4: It's not my personality. I'm just I'm not I'm not

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Speaker 4: gonna overreact. I'm not gonna, you know, throw out things

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Speaker 4: discourse was so gross, right, it was the Browns are

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Speaker 4: setting up standards to fail by playing him, and it

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Speaker 4: was very lazy and this is where the analysis starts. Right,

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Speaker 4: it was lazy because they they the people on TV

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Speaker 4: that wanted this to be this this he was said

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Speaker 4: to fail, like they expect him to play poorly. Right,

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Speaker 4: they expected him to play poorly. They're just funny that

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Speaker 4: the people that support him the most expect him to

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Speaker 4: of that to the Browns were sabotaging him because they

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Speaker 4: weren't They weren't giving him enough practice reps, so they

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Speaker 4: weren't doing it the right way. Guys, the preseason, this

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Speaker 4: is the way the preseason works. You have a depth chart.

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Speaker 4: You play according to the depth chart. When someone's out,

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Speaker 4: the next person plays. Standers was the next person up

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Speaker 4: to play. Joe Flacco was too old to play, Kenny

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Speaker 4: Pickett and Dylan Gabriel were too beat up, I guess

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Speaker 4: to play. But I'll tell you what. Gabriel has been practicing.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure he wish you would have played, because now

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Speaker 4: he's probably getting passing in the depth chart, right and

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Speaker 4: Sanders now Hopson Sanders have been practicing with the group

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Speaker 4: of players he was playing with. Sanators didn't get first

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Speaker 4: team reps. Why would he He's not the starting quarterback, Brian,

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Speaker 4: he's the backup. Of course he gets backup reps right now, Well,

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Speaker 4: he was play have earned him the opportunity for more

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Speaker 4: reps with the Ones, probably, and we don't know that

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Speaker 4: until we see practice today, right. So it starts in

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Speaker 4: a place of like of laziness and and and being

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Speaker 4: disingenuous with those takes, because guess what, the same people

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Speaker 4: so effusive with their praise, like they didn't say earlier

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Speaker 4: he was gonna suck right like it's it's just it's

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Speaker 4: all for show. Okay. I don't operate like that. Okay,

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Speaker 4: So the way I look at is this is my

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Speaker 4: So let me explain what it comes to, just the

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Speaker 4: easy way to explain this, and they'll get the sanders

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Speaker 4: in a second. So the Cincinnati Bengals, their first team,

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Speaker 4: played two drives against the Eagles backups. Okay, their offense,

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Speaker 4: the Bengals offense went boom boom, boom boom boom down

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Speaker 4: the field, two touchdowns. Check the check the box looks

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Speaker 4: like it should, so it should it?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 4: The Ones are playing the twos that should happen. On

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Speaker 4: the flip side, the Bengals defense got gashed by the

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Speaker 4: Eagles backup offense. Red flag is up? Right? Why is

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Speaker 4: that happening again? So if you play that center all

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Speaker 4: through the NFL during this week, you know yesterday your Dolphins,

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Speaker 4: some your Dolphins, you're the first string offensive line got

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Speaker 4: stuffed multiple times on the goal line. That is a

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Speaker 4: red flag that should not happen against the Bears backups

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Speaker 4: like that to me is so doesn't look like it should. Right.

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Speaker 4: move it along. Sanders is a fifth round pick, okay,

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Speaker 4: who we know is more talented than a fifth round pick.

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Speaker 4: He was playing with backups against mostly backups, the Pantas

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Speaker 4: so it looked like it should in my mind, that's

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Speaker 4: all think he'd be a starting quarterback but fell for

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Speaker 4: So that's his performance was just that it was a

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Speaker 4: box check for week one. Now in week two, I

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Speaker 4: don't even know they're playing. Maybe he gets reps with

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Speaker 4: the ones, or maybe gets reps with you know, against

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Speaker 4: the one defense the entire for entire multiple drives in

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Speaker 4: a row. Then we'll judge him off that. But the

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Speaker 4: same people that got on on on TV on the

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Speaker 4: radio and told us that he was being screwed by

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Speaker 4: the Browns were the same people who got up there

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Speaker 4: and praise his performance, even though that they really were

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Speaker 4: admitting early on that they thought he would fail. So like,

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Speaker 4: I just I'm just tired of, like, well, seeing of

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Speaker 4: is no different than any other fifth round pick. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that happened. I saw people you know, well he's a

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Speaker 4: fifth round pick. Yeah he was. That's over with now.

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Speaker 4: Now now it's time to judge him based on his

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Speaker 3: Well, they're at Philly next week in the preseason, so.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Philly won't play their starters, but Philly does a

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Speaker 4: good job of just being ready to play these preseason games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, So we'll see if Chadur will definitely get

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Speaker 3: How they're gonna divide everything up. That's my whole thing

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Speaker 3: with the being set up to fail. It's all how

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Speaker 3: you say things, and that's just too much. That's overkill.

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Speaker 4: he's he's been out. No, Sanders is getting the amount

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Speaker 4: play both? He is he easy? That is he that

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Speaker 4: important of a player for you to have to play both.

432
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,920
Speaker 4: The easiest way is always to have him be a

433
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 4: full time corner and then fill in an offense as

434
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 4: he did. The other way around is ridiculous to me.

435
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 4: And if I was an offensive coach playing against him

436
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 4: and I saw him come on defense after he played offense,

437
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 4: gets where the ball is going?

438
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:29,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, right to him?

439
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 4: Right, Guess what I'm doing. I'm sending the off I'm

440
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 4: running a screen pass, and I'm sending the offensive lineman

441
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 4: out to go block him.

442
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 3: Well, that's yeah, It's kind of leeds into your point.

443
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 6: Right.

444
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 3: Here is DeVante Adams new Rams receiver. He was on

445
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 3: the Pivot podcast and I thought it was interesting the

446
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,159
Speaker 3: way he put it as well. And again, this is

447
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 3: not like hating on the guy, it's not right, like

448
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 3: we're not saying what he can't do, or he's just

449
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 3: being realistic about how taxing it would be to play

450
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 3: both ways at as close to a full time basis

451
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,679
Speaker 3: as possible. Here's Fonte Adams.

452
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Speaker 7: I don't even think it's possible to do for real,

453
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 7: not at a high level and then going there. It's

454
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 7: hard enough to go cover a punt and then and

455
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 7: then be on you.

456
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 4: Know one side, you know, and I didn't. I haven't

457
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 4: done it.

458
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 7: I'm not acting like I'm gonna kick off or punt,

459
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 7: but I can see the dudes, and I know you

460
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 7: know you you got your guys, and you see the

461
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 7: yardage of my yardage over the over the game versus

462
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 7: somebody that starts on the offense and then plays special

463
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 7: teams as well, Like, that's just a lot of mileage, man,

464
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 7: And I don't know how long. I'm not even concerned

465
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,400
Speaker 7: so much if he can do it over the course

466
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 7: of a game or a season. It's more like how

467
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,119
Speaker 7: long is his career gonna be if he's playing that

468
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 7: many snaps, because you just all you're doing is doubling

469
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 7: your risk for injury one, And I don't wish any

470
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 7: of that on him. I hope that he can play

471
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Speaker 7: an injury free season and go ball out, but I

472
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 7: mean it's just the reality. The more you're on the field, Yeah,

473
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 7: I mean, it's already one hundred percent injury guarantee. You know,

474
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 7: once you get out there playing both sides and now

475
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 7: you gotta tackle, you gotta you gotta tackle Derrick Henry

476
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:00,679
Speaker 7: with that frame.

477
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 3: Right Like that's that's asking a ton, Jeff, and I

478
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 3: hadn't thought about it until this morning, really, but I

479
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 3: think I think he's gonna be an asset. I think

480
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 3: Travis Hunter is a very talented special player, but this

481
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 3: does like class half empty. This lends itself to the

482
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 3: Jags not finding a rhythm. Like think about if they

483
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna start him out on offense primarily,

484
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 3: that's what they're gonna try to do. They're gonna try

485
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 3: to get Trevor Lawrence, you know, another weapon and get

486
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 3: him really jump started. And I think they're gonna find,

487
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 3: like you know, it's probably better, like you just said,

488
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 3: to have him as a full time corner and sort

489
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 3: of moonlight as an offensive guy. So if he starts

490
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Speaker 3: off being a starter on offense, I always listed on

491
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 3: the depth chart. If he starts off being a starter

492
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 3: offensively and then they sort of flip that around and

493
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 3: he's a starter defensively and gets a little bit of

494
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 3: time on offense. That lends itself to the offense being like, okay,

495
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 3: you don't have Trevor Travis Hunter anymore now now to

496
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 3: who you know what I mean, Like it could be

497
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 3: a little bit funky to find out his exact role

498
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 3: in all the moving parts around that.

499
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just physically don't know how he can do

500
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 4: both and then mentally, right, so you know, in college,

501
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,719
Speaker 4: we really dig down to what he did in college,

502
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 4: he played man coverage on defense, and he basically lined

503
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 4: up on one side of the field on offense for

504
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 4: a game. Right, it just sort of right. It never

505
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 4: motioned in doing it, just like lined up on one

506
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 4: side and just ran routes from that side, and it

507
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 4: was like a route tree was extensive. It wasn't a

508
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 4: route tree that was crazy. And defensive defensively, he's such

509
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 4: a good corner, you know, just just go out and

510
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 4: go to the guy in front of you, Right, It's

511
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 4: not very hard. That's not the way the NFL is.

512
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 4: So you know, these playbooks. Let's just say you have

513
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,919
Speaker 4: a paper playbook still, okay, and everyone's on iPads now,

514
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 4: but you know, college playbook would be fifty pages and

515
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 4: NFL playbooks one hundre fifty pages, So he has to

516
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 4: learn both of those to play offense and defense to

517
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 4: like that again, Like that's why I think, just generally speaking,

518
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 4: it's just way too much for him to do, and

519
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 4: it's unfair to him to have to make him have

520
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 4: to do all this, and unfair to your your point,

521
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 4: unfair to the team and sort of how you prepare

522
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 4: each week to have him have to do this. So

523
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,360
Speaker 4: I'm in agreement with basically everyone who's ever played who

524
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 4: has the same thoughts on this, Like it's not it's

525
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 4: not something that benefits everyone. It just it just doesn't.

526
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Speaker 4: So I'm curious how long this experiment lasts with him

527
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,239
Speaker 4: doing as much as possible and look and look, they

528
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 4: can still be trying to figure out the best path forward,

529
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 4: which is certainly fair to say, hey man, like we're

530
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 4: just using the preseason as we should for reps to

531
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 4: figure it out. But they gotta figure out pretty soon

532
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 4: because you know, I've got two preseason games left and

533
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Speaker 4: the record season starts, Brian, Like, it's not like it's

534
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 4: it's pretty much time to figure it out.

535
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're right here. It's crazy what he did at

536
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 3: Colorado last year. He averaged one hundred and thirteen point

537
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 3: nine snaps per game. Let's just credit fourteen. One hundred

538
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 3: and fourteen snaps per game is insanity. But this is

539
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:14,719
Speaker 3: the NFL.

540
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Speaker 4: You can't do the NFL. It would just ruin. He

541
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 4: would be ruined. His body would break down, he would

542
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 4: get hurt, he wouldn't be as efficient as you need

543
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,239
Speaker 4: him to be those in those big moments. That's why

544
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 4: I think again, like you just you want I think

545
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 4: to me, you want the best of him on one

546
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 4: side of the ball, and that does feel like the

547
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 4: best of him on one side of the ball is

548
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 4: going to end up being on offense.

549
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think sometimes, you know, we always talk about

550
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 3: Miami in September. Jacksonville isn't exactly you know, like Green

551
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 3: Bay or something like that. It's taxing on your body

552
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 3: to play like a one pm Eastern game.

553
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 4: Done it. I played a week one in Jacksonville before

554
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 4: one pm start. Very very warm, Brian, very warm.

555
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 3: Man, incredibly warm. How about his teammate, though, Cam Little.

556
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 3: Some wild and crazy stuff that happened over the weekend.

557
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 3: Cam Little hitting a seventy yard field goal. That is insanity, Jeff.

558
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 3: That would have been the record by four yards. Justin

559
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 3: Tucker has the official record, but just because this was

560
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 3: in preseason, it's not an official record. If it were

561
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 3: in the regular season, it would have beaten it by

562
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 3: four yards. And he had distance despair. I can't believe

563
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 3: he made that look so easy. He kicked it from

564
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 3: his own forty yard line. Didn't even look right.

565
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 4: Kicking has become too easy. It's not a gripe of

566
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 4: mind having the sport. I think to knowledge, it's become

567
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 4: too easy. It was never supposed to be this easy.

568
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 4: And I'm curious this year with the new kickoff rules

569
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 4: and the landing zone all this stuff. Like I do

570
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 4: think there's a chance that we just get more points

571
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 4: this year if you can start the ball to thirty five.

572
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 4: Now after a touchback or forty I think at the

573
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 4: ball like doesn't hit the ground or some or hits

574
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 4: the ground too early. I mean, you're you're twenty five,

575
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 4: twenty yards away from a fifty seven yard field goal,

576
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 4: which feels like nearly automatic. Now it's kind of crazy,

577
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 4: like that's where I've gotten to where that those those

578
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 4: type of you know, kicks feel like something that can

579
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 4: be easily. I do wonder if it changes the way

580
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 4: like you live wager end of games, Like you know,

581
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 4: the team is down three with fifty seconds left. If

582
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 4: they get the ball to thirty five, it's not very

583
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 4: hard to get to the fifty, I mean to forty

584
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 4: yard line to get a decent, decent chance at fifty

585
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 4: seven yard field goal.

586
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,959
Speaker 3: It wasn't that long ago that, say, like a fifty

587
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 3: five yard field goal was like whoa fifty five? And

588
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 3: if you got near sixty, we're talking like, man, you're

589
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 3: a couple of yards away from the record. You know,

590
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 3: that was like sixty yard field goal. For him to

591
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 3: hit his seventy yard field goal is crazy. Even the

592
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 3: Justin Tucker field goal, the record breaker. It hit the

593
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 3: crossbar and trickled over.

594
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 4: Right, and it was also inside in a dome like perfect. Yeah,

595
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 4: you know conditions. I mean, Jacksonville just could do enough

596
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 4: though unfortunately to actually like you know, cover the first half.

597
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 3: But that's what you're focused on. What a way to

598
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 3: win a bet? If he hit a seventy yarder. You're like,

599
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 3: all right, you're almost like, you know, rolling your eyes.

600
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 3: I just need him to hit a seventy yarder and

601
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 3: I can cash this bet. And he hit it, that

602
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 3: would have been a great way.

603
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 4: To win it. I never unfortunate that way. Never, it

604
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 4: never happens.

605
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the way. It's the way you lose one, right, Like,

606
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 3: all right, I just have to dodge him hitting it.

607
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 3: He he just hit a seventy yarder. I can't believe. Yeah,

608
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 3: normally goes the other way. Uh, this will probably make

609
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 3: you feel old, Jeff. How about former Yankees closer Mariano Rivera.

610
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 3: He tore his achilles during the Yankees Old Timers Day

611
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 3: game on Saturday? That like, how did we get here?

612
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 5: Where?

613
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 3: Mariano Rivera, the greatest closer of all time? Exceptional athlete,

614
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 3: He's tearing his achilles during the Old Timers Day game?

615
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 3: How are we even here?

616
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 4: Man?

617
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 3: This is crazy. We got to suspend time for a second.

618
00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 3: It's going by too fast.

619
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Speaker 4: So does everyone Does everyone do old Timers games?

620
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 3: I don't believe so, I don't think so.

621
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 4: Who is that a thing that like Yankees fans want

622
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 4: to go to? Are they just show up to the

623
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 4: show Ye Stadium to watch that. I just didn't know

624
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 4: that was a thing that everyone does.

625
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, some do. Some check it out and you see

626
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 3: the former like Andy Pettitt was playing, Willie Randolph was playing.

627
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 4: I know, I know the play I'm talking about. Like

628
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 4: our fans there like.

629
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 3: Do they Yeah, That's what I'm saying. Like there's some

630
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 3: show up and they're like, oh I get to see

631
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 3: Andy Pettitt. The'll they'll show up and hang out for

632
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 3: a little bit. Sure.

633
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 4: Interesting.

634
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 3: It's not like, oh, drop everything you're doing like capacity crowd.

635
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 3: But it's just one of the fun things that they do. Yeah,

636
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 3: this is depending on your definition of fun.

637
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 4: You don't play basketball anymore. It's just like that if

638
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 4: I were myself again, my wife would divorce me. I

639
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 4: probably all the injuries in the NFL, and like I

640
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 4: would get so fat if I was. I had achilles

641
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 4: injury for you know, for you know, six months and

642
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 4: couldn't couldn't move it all. It's just this is not

643
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 4: worth it to me to do those type of things anymore.

644
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 4: So I feel bad for him because I mean he's

645
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 4: gonna it's not it's not a fun injury. I mean,

646
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 4: you're now you're not way bearing for months at a time,

647
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 4: and it's gonna be you're gonna be just kind of

648
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Speaker 4: sitting there and like doing nothing. So I feel bad

649
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 4: that it ended up being the case. He also before

650
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 4: he got hurt, he like ripped a double off.

651
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 3: But if they was on Andy Pettitt, Yeah, Yeah, he's

652
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 3: an awesome athlete. He is, and uh they thought a

653
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 3: lot of people would say he was the best outfielder

654
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 3: in the American League, Like he would just shag fly

655
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 3: balls and he's a tremendous athlete. He actually I think

656
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 3: he tore his a cl you know, shagging fly balls. Yeah,

657
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 3: before his final season. He had to come back from

658
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 3: a torn a cl before his final year because I

659
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 3: think he got hurt in Kansas City doing that.

660
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I very much have enjoyed this eachy row like

661
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 4: run he's on right now. Where Yeah, he obviously, you know,

662
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 4: made the Hall of Fame and he had a Mariner's

663
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 4: I don't inducted in the Hall of Fame. The Meris

664
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Speaker 4: Hall of Fame, but they aducted he got to like,

665
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 4: you know, go on the honored him on the field

666
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 4: the other day. Yeah, dude is funny man.

667
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 3: He's hilarious.

668
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 4: He is very funny.

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Speaker 3: And he was in full uniform throwing out the first pitch.

670
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Speaker 3: Did you see that?

671
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Speaker 4: I saw? Well, no, I saw the video of him

672
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 4: and Randy Johnson playing catch in the hallway. Oh wow, yeah,

673
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 4: in the clubhouse hallway. I mean, dude obviously loves baseball.

674
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 4: I think I think his career is underappreciated. Like he

675
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 4: had three thousand American hits and like fifteen hundred hits

676
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 4: in the Japanese League. Like he had a crazy career

677
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 4: of success in both leagues and you know, obviously doesn't count,

678
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 4: but like he had more hits than Pete Rose, I believe, right, first.

679
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:44,719
Speaker 3: Year all together.

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00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, which is an insane thing to even like sort

681
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 4: of throw out there. Yeah, I had more hits and

682
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 4: Pete Rose. They don't always count, but like I just

683
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 4: did you know he was? He was MVP and Rookie

684
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 4: the Year in the same year he missed by a vote.

685
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 4: Obviously famous that year for rookie the year was yeah,

686
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 4: for rookie the year, he asked, you know, he obviously

687
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 4: missed Hall of Fame with one vote. They need to

688
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 4: make Hall of Fame votes public by the way, because

689
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 4: that person has to be shamed obviously. Sure, the way

690
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 4: Baseball does their voting, there's no excuse for him eachro

691
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 4: not to win, not to be any of these players.

692
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 4: Like the way they do their voting. You vote for,

693
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 4: you get a ballot, You get to vote for ten players.

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00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 4: How's Etro not one of the ten players you would

695
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 4: vote for.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy.

697
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 4: I'm that ballot.

698
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 3: That's even worse, you know, it's even worse, you know,

699
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 3: to not put him in the top ten. This was

700
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 3: real fast. This was his Hall of Fame induction speech.

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00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 3: This is just gold right here. And to the Miami Molltains.

702
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 6: When you guys colled to offer me a contract for

703
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 6: twenty fifteen, I have never heard all of your team.

704
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 3: Never heard of the Miami Marlins, you know. And then

705
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 3: he had, of course some very nice things to say

706
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 3: about the Miami Marlins.

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Speaker 4: Do you think he was being serious?

708
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 3: Absolutely? I do you think he was a kid around?

709
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 4: Well? Do you think they had they just changed from

710
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:03,760
Speaker 4: Florida to Miami.

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00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 3: I'm not sure. I don't know what the timeline was,

712
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 3: uh with that they offered him.

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Speaker 4: You know, he had played baseball that long, hadn't heard

714
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 4: of the Miami Marlins.

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Speaker 3: I absolutely believe it could have been the case where

716
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 3: he's like, I never heard of you guys. You know

717
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 3: it's each row. You know, he's paid attention to whatever

718
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 3: he's paying attention to. You think, like the Miami Marlins

719
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 3: are you know in his news feed or something for me?

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00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 4: You know he played them.

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00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 3: Ever, well, it's interesting like the where he was in

722
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 3: his career and you know all that. I don't know.

723
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 3: I just take him by his word. I call bs

724
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 3: on each row. How dare you?

725
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 4: I'm just saying I'd find that to be pretty like.

726
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 4: I don't know. I think it was more of a

727
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 4: joke maybe, but I I mean, look Cravy, I hadn't

728
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 4: heard of him before. Good. But again, guy loves ball.

729
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 4: We thought all the time about like loving ball.

730
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 3: He's a ball he loves the ball man, he does.

731
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

732
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 3: So, uh, he got to the Mariners in one and

733
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 3: you know, went to the Yankees in twenty twelve and

734
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 3: then went to the Marlins in twenty fifteen. So yeah, hey,

735
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 3: maybe maybe you're onto something over there. He was forty

736
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,280
Speaker 3: one years old when he went to the Miami Marlins.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. See, I I think it's a fun of those

738
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 4: fun stories that I think he's just was more of

739
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 4: a joke. Stir.

740
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 3: Maybe you're true. Maybe that's a way to take all

741
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 3: the fun out of I. You know, you just what

742
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 3: are you gonna tell me about Santa?

743
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 2: Not?

744
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 3: You know, I don't want to know about all these things.

745
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to go what about Santa?

746
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 3: I want to live blindly, you know, thinking these things.

747
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 3: I can't go down that road. Jeff, there my little kids.

748
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 4: I'm going to say, I don't know what you mean

749
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 4: about that. That's right, there's one okay. The other thing

750
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 4: I also like about this is like he obviously speaks

751
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 4: very good English. Right, It's a little broken, but it's

752
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 4: it's very good. And I just find it so fascinating

753
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 4: how players who play in the big leads for that

754
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 4: long obviously speak great English but sort of pretend they

755
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 4: don't to the media.

756
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 3: Yeah right, sure, yeah, some do. I remember I was I.

757
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 4: Was showing the story of other day in the radio

758
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 4: as a some of the Mets, and I went to

759
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 4: see the Mets. I was watching Mets Giants fears, but

760
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 4: actually was twenty fifteen at City Field. I went for

761
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 4: the Giants, I mean the Giants football team. I was

762
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 4: watching the Giants baseball team and I met Bartola Coloone

763
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 4: was there and we just want to say hi. We

764
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 4: were there watching batting practice and he said he said

765
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 4: he's speaking in English, and I was like, buddy, you've

766
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 4: been the big least fifteen years. I just say, you

767
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 4: don't want to talk to us, like, yeah, yeah, I'm

768
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,240
Speaker 4: going inside. But he's like, I'll speaking English.

769
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard to buy.

770
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 4: Really, I don't buy that, buddy.

771
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Speaker 3: All right, coming up next, Two Pros and a Cup

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Speaker 3: of Joe. He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian No, filling in

773
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Speaker 3: for the crew. Is this athlete entitled? Or is she

774
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 3: saying exactly what you and I would say in the

775
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Speaker 3: you know, sponsored by the Home Depot. All right, Jeff,

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Speaker 3: So we'll go quick on this one. There's a new

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Speaker 3: docu series out called Tarassi that's right about the former

788
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,720
Speaker 3: basketball player Diana Tarassi. It's now out on Prime Video

789
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 3: if you want to check it out. But there's a

790
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 3: little excerpt from this and she's talking about having to

791
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 3: go overseas to play in Russia because she wasn't making

792
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 3: any money playing in the WNBA. This has gotten quite

793
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 3: the reaction, so listen carefully because some people have had

794
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 3: some very critical things to say about it. Here's Diana.

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Speaker 8: I'm the best player in the world and I have

796
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 8: to go to a communist country to get paid like

797
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 8: a capitalist. One time I came back and I was like, man,

798
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 8: my parents have just gotten older and I've missed a

799
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 8: big part of it. We weren't making that much money,

800
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Speaker 8: so generational wealth was coming from going to Russia every year.

801
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 8: Now we have to come back home and get paid

802
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 8: nothing to play in a harder league in worse conditions

803
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 8: against the best competition in the world. The janitor at

804
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 8: arena made more than me.

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00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 3: Okay, so briefly, Jason Whitlock, he tweeted out, when you're

806
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 3: the best at something that has little real value, clueless,

807
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 3: so clueless and entitled. And then our own Doug Gottlieb,

808
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 3: he said, Diana Tarossi sounds arrogant, obnoxious, bitter and petty.

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00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 3: Other than that sounded great according to Doug, I guess, but.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Jeff, you tell me. I think it's easy from your

812
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 3: position to look at Diana and say, man, what's all

813
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 3: this very bitter are you telling me? If you're in

814
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 3: the exact same position, you aren't thinking and possibly saying

815
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 3: the same things. You're the best at what you do,

816
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 3: and you got to go over to Russia to make

817
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 3: a buck and you're getting paid nothing. If playing in

818
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 3: the WNBA, you wouldn't think the same thing. I would.

819
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Speaker 4: I just think when you look at just any other job,

820
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 4: if you were the best in the in our country

821
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 4: at that job, you're not making seventy thousand dollars right

822
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 4: like that. That's where her anger comes from. Right now now,

823
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 4: the janitor comment, that's what fired everyone up. That That's

824
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Speaker 4: what made people angry. I think if she left that out,

825
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 4: that would have been a problem, you know, because you're

826
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Speaker 4: basically talking down about someone else's profession, right, and that

827
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Speaker 4: that is where I think people had the most anger

828
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 4: about it. But I looked at it and the fact

829
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Speaker 4: is like, you're in our country, if you were the

830
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 4: best at your job, you're making more than what she

831
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Speaker 4: was making.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah,