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Speaker 2: Welcome in another very special edition of the fifty greatest
Speaker 2: Players of the last fifty years. As we continue our
Speaker 2: countdown and we are now to the truly hollowed ground,
Speaker 2: the top three and all along everyone has known who
Speaker 2: the top three are. The top three are going to
Speaker 2: be in some order, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Lebron James and
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan. The question has always been what is the order?
Speaker 2: And let me say this, I know some people when
Speaker 2: we do the goat debate a ton on sports television,
Speaker 2: and one thing I have been incredibly consistent on and
Speaker 2: some people agree with me.
Speaker 3: I think Dan Patrick agrees with me.
Speaker 2: I think the man I'm about to mention himself agrees
Speaker 2: with me that the goat debate is almost always constricted
Speaker 2: to Lebron and Michael. But there is a third person that,
Speaker 2: by any measure, should be included, and that is Kareem
Speaker 2: Abdul Jabbar. And so if the goat debate is truly
Speaker 2: a three person debate, that means there should there is
Speaker 2: someone who might be the greatest player ever, who actually
Speaker 2: must come in as the.
Speaker 3: Third greatest player ever.
Speaker 2: And that is how we land here today in one
Speaker 2: of the most famous, most celebrated, most accomplished athletes in
Speaker 2: the history of any sport coming in at number three
Speaker 2: on our list, the third greatest player of the last fifty.
Speaker 3: Years, Number three, Michael Jordan.
Speaker 2: Now, before I even get into it, let me say this.
Speaker 3: This is a celebration of these players.
Speaker 2: Okay, all of these lists, all of these videos have
Speaker 2: been about how amazing these people were.
Speaker 3: And everything they accomplished.
Speaker 2: Now, by virtue of having Jordan third, folks are going
Speaker 2: to say I am hating on him, I am trying
Speaker 2: to tear him down.
Speaker 3: None of that is true. And the way I would
Speaker 3: like to do.
Speaker 2: This is over the next twenty to twenty five minutes,
Speaker 2: I'm going to speak in almost exclusively glowing terms about
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan. Then we'll take a break, and on the
Speaker 2: back end, I'm sure we're gonna have some callers, maybe
Speaker 2: even a caller that played with Michael Jordan, tell me
Speaker 2: why I'm an idiot. On that side, I will defend
Speaker 2: his ranking at three.
Speaker 3: As opposed to two or as opposed to one.
Speaker 2: But right now, what I want to talk about is
Speaker 2: what he did, and what he did was arguably have the.
Speaker 3: Highest peak of any player ever.
Speaker 2: Jordan's apex, you could argue, is the goat apex. The
Speaker 2: problem is, unlike Lebron and Kareem, the career was shockingly brief.
Speaker 2: Now what he fit into that shockingly brief career is
Speaker 2: all time stuff. So let's go through it. He is
Speaker 2: ten time first Team All NBA. That is tied for
Speaker 2: the fourth most ever, one time second team All NBA.
Speaker 2: He is five time League MVP that is the second
Speaker 2: most ever, and five other Top three finishes that is
Speaker 2: ten total career top three MVP finishes.
Speaker 3: Only Lebron and Kareem have more.
Speaker 2: He is a ten times scoring champion, is a one
Speaker 2: time Defensive Player of the Year. He is nine time
Speaker 2: All Defense, He is a three times steals champ, and
Speaker 2: he is fifth all time in points score on career
Speaker 2: points per game. There's all regular season and stuff. We'll
Speaker 2: get to the playoffs stuff shortly, as we always do.
Speaker 2: Regular season the most, the thirty points per game in
Speaker 2: the regular season, the most ever, the only career thirty
Speaker 2: point per game scorer in NBA regular season history, a
Speaker 2: career average of thirty points, six rebounds, five assists on
Speaker 2: fifty percent shooting. His first career thirty five point game
Speaker 2: was the third game of his career. His first career
Speaker 2: forty five point game was the tenth game.
Speaker 3: Of his career.
Speaker 2: And as you will see here, and as I want
Speaker 2: to illustrate here briefly in the regular season portion before
Speaker 2: we get to the playoffs, Jordan's career, I think, for
Speaker 2: good and for bad, gets distilled far too often to
Speaker 2: as if he only played six seasons, and that allows
Speaker 2: people to say, oh, he never lost, which is obviously
Speaker 2: not true. However, what it denies Jordan is how utterly
Speaker 2: brilliant he was from almost the moment he walked in
Speaker 2: the league. So Jordan is awesome as a rookie, wins
Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year. Jordan in year two breaks his
Speaker 2: foot and barely plays. Starting in year three, before he
Speaker 2: ever sniffed a championship, Michael Jordan was already arguably the
Speaker 2: best player in the sport. In year three, Michael Jordan
Speaker 2: averaged thirty seven points per game. That is the most
Speaker 2: points anyone has ever averaged in a season not.
Speaker 3: Named Wilt Chamberlain.
Speaker 2: In year four, Michael Jordan averaged thirty five points, five
Speaker 2: rebounds six. In year five, a year he averaged a
Speaker 2: triple double for damn near a month he's playing point guard,
Speaker 2: he averaged thirty three, eight and eight, and in year
Speaker 2: six Michael Jordan averaged thirty four, seven and six. Those
Speaker 2: years don't get discussed with the way they should because
Speaker 2: they didn't end in championships. But those four seasons, years
Speaker 2: three through six, Michael Jordan, over three hundred and thirty
Speaker 2: games played in the regular season, averaged thirty.
Speaker 3: Five, six and six, and then.
Speaker 2: He started winning titles again before we get to the
Speaker 2: playoffs start stuff. And again, by the way, that thirty five,
Speaker 2: six and six came along with three steals per game,
Speaker 2: on fifty two percent shooting Kobe Bryant did. It was
Speaker 2: the best Michael Jordan impersonator we ever had, if you will,
Speaker 2: for the late.
Speaker 3: Great Kobe Bryant.
Speaker 2: Well, Kobe Bryant was never acquired able to uh Master
Speaker 2: was the efficiency that Jordan was able to score with
Speaker 2: he is. He's scored at least thirty points five hundred
Speaker 2: and sixty two times.
Speaker 3: That is the most all time.
Speaker 2: He's scored at least one hundred or of forty points
Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy three times, one hundred and seventy
Speaker 2: three forty point games. That is the second most all
Speaker 2: time to WILF Chamberlain. He's scored at least fifty points
Speaker 2: thirty one times. That is the second most all time
Speaker 2: to Wilt Chamberlain. So now we get to the postseason, okay,
Speaker 2: and what you are going to see is there is
Speaker 2: almost and this is another check mark in Jordan's favor.
Speaker 2: To his credit, unlike Lebron and unlike Kareem, he never
Speaker 2: had the true dark playoff moment Lebron obviously in twenty eleven.
Speaker 2: Kareem's were a little tougher. We'll get to it in
Speaker 2: the Kareem video. Jordan didn't have that, and that's to
Speaker 2: his credit Michael Jordan, because even when he got swept,
Speaker 2: which happened early on, he wasn't playing poorly. So during
Speaker 2: six time Champs, six Time Finals MVP nineteen eighty five,
Speaker 2: he is a rookie. They are playing members Sydney Moncree
Speaker 2: from those Milwaukee Bucks. He averaged is a rookie in
Speaker 2: the playoffs twenty nine, six and nine and in the
Speaker 2: only game they won, they lost three to one. He
Speaker 2: had thirty five points, eight rebounds, seven assists, four steals.
Speaker 2: Nineteen eighty six, he misses most of the season with
Speaker 2: a foot injury. He came back shortly before the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Played the eighty six Celtics in round one. Some people
Speaker 2: argue that's the greatest team ever. Scored forty nine in
Speaker 2: Game one and they lost in a blowout. Scored a
Speaker 2: still playoff record sixty three points in a double overtime
Speaker 2: loss in Game two. For this series, he averaged forty four,
Speaker 2: six and six and his team got swept. The second
Speaker 2: best player in the seam was Orlando Woolridge. Can't really
Speaker 2: blame him for getting swept. He did average forty four,
Speaker 2: six and sixteen eighty seven, he is swept by Boston again.
Speaker 2: Despite this time he averaged only thirty six, seven and six.
Speaker 2: He did have forty two in game two. So at
Speaker 2: that point in his career has been in league three years.
Speaker 2: And boy, oh boy, if we had the modern media
Speaker 2: that we have now, then at that point Michael Jordan,
Speaker 2: three years into his career, was owned three in playoff series,
Speaker 2: was one in nine in playoff games.
Speaker 3: And and here's something I only most people know. The
Speaker 3: Bulls were under five hundred. They made the playoffs, but.
Speaker 2: Were under five hundred in every one of those years.
Speaker 2: It wouldn't have been fair. But today's mud have been like, uh,
Speaker 2: can you win? With Michael Jordan nineteen eighty eighty answered
Speaker 2: some of that wins League MVP Win's Defensive Player of
Speaker 2: the Year wins his first career series. Game one against
Speaker 2: Cleveland has fifty points. Game two against Cleveland has fifty
Speaker 2: five points scored four twenty four In Game four against
Speaker 2: Cleveland on seventy two percent shooting, but they lost do
Speaker 2: or Die. Game five, scored thirty nine points. Average for
Speaker 2: the series forty five, five and five for his first
Speaker 2: series win. Very different story though in round two, you're
Speaker 2: playing Detroit. He only scored thirty one time. It was
Speaker 2: thirty six in a game two win, and they lose
Speaker 2: in five. Thats a great Pistons team that would come
Speaker 2: this close to winning the title if Isaiah doesn't sprint
Speaker 2: his ankle.
Speaker 3: Nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 2: First truly deep playoff run and his first truly iconic
Speaker 2: playoff moment. Singular moment obviously at the iconic game, the
Speaker 2: sixty three against Bert, one of the most famous shots
Speaker 2: in NBA history, will.
Speaker 3: Get to a in the moment.
Speaker 2: Round one against Cleveland, scores thirty in every single game,
Speaker 2: averages forty points, six rebounds, eight assists for the series.
Speaker 3: Game three, series is tied one game apiece.
Speaker 2: He throws up a forty four to seven ten and
Speaker 2: five forty four to seven ten and five. In Game four,
Speaker 2: he scores fifty, but they lose. No other Bulls scores
Speaker 2: more than fifteen. They lose in overtime. Game five, he
Speaker 2: has forty two, nine and six with one second left.
Speaker 3: He finished with forty four, nine and six. Because he
Speaker 3: takes the inbounds, hits.
Speaker 2: The shot over Elo for the shot, and that is
Speaker 2: a true as true of a do or die shot
Speaker 2: as you can get. It's game five of five game series.
Speaker 2: They are trailing by one. It is truly the final
Speaker 2: shot of the game. If he misses it, their season
Speaker 2: is over. If he makes it, maybe they can win
Speaker 2: the title. He makes it for the so then goes on, well,
Speaker 2: that's the shot that everyone's has seen for one hundred
Speaker 2: years now. Round two against the Knicks averages thirty six points,
Speaker 2: ten rebounds, eight assists.
Speaker 3: Game three tied one to one in that series.
Speaker 2: Pardon me uh. Game three tite won one in that series.
Speaker 2: Has a forty fifteen, nine and six to take the
Speaker 2: series lead. Game four has a forty seven, eleven and
Speaker 2: six to go up three to one, and then in
Speaker 2: Game six to close them out close out the Knicks.
Speaker 3: Has a forty five and ten.
Speaker 2: In the Eastern Conference Finals for the first time ever,
Speaker 2: he puts up there one to one against Detroit. Game
Speaker 2: three against the Detroit Pistons, the defending Eastern Conference champions,
Speaker 2: but the Pistons have not won a title yet. Game
Speaker 2: three series tie throws up a forty six, seven, five
Speaker 2: and five, but then he's not great in Games four
Speaker 2: and five and they lose three straight to lose the series.
Speaker 2: Game six, Pipping plays one minute. It's one of the
Speaker 2: famous things. Go to the last dance if you want
Speaker 2: more unpipping struggles in the final games against the Pistons
Speaker 2: in these couple of years, we're gonna talk about. Pippin
Speaker 2: just averaged nine points for the series. Jordan, by the way,
Speaker 2: for that postseason to get to his first career Compt
Speaker 2: Finals thirty five, seven and eight.
Speaker 3: So here is again, Jordan at this point has.
Speaker 2: Never gotten out of the East and look at and
Speaker 2: look at how great he had been in that post
Speaker 2: in those postseasons. It's one of the reasons why I
Speaker 2: hate when we just distill the career to the championship years.
Speaker 2: It actually denies some of the greatness of early peak
Speaker 2: athletic Michael Jordan. So nineteen ninety, he's now gotten his
Speaker 2: first taste of the conference finals. Beats Milwaukee in round one.
Speaker 2: Jordan averages thirty seven points, eight rebounds, seven assists, three block,
Speaker 2: three steals.
Speaker 3: Round two against Philly.
Speaker 2: That Philly team had Charles Barkley, by the way, scored
Speaker 2: at least thirty seven in all five games, including the
Speaker 2: following in games two, three, and four, a forty five,
Speaker 2: eight and seven a forty nine to five and five
Speaker 2: and a forty five, six and eleven. That's three straight
Speaker 2: games for the series. Averaged forty three points, seven rebounds,
Speaker 2: seven assists forced. Feels now he's got Detroit again. In
Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference Finals, falls down oh two Detroit to
Speaker 2: the defending champs, goes for forty seven and ten in
Speaker 2: Game three, forty to a nine in Game four to
Speaker 2: even the series games. They then split games five and
Speaker 2: six Game seven. Mj Now listen to this because they
Speaker 2: get blown out in Game seven. Okay, Jordan had thirty
Speaker 2: one points, eight rebounds, nine assists, So how do they
Speaker 2: get blown out? Well, pipping goes one for ten. Jordan
Speaker 2: was thirteen of twenty seven.
Speaker 3: From the field.
Speaker 2: The rest of the Bulls were fifteen of sixty three
Speaker 2: from the field. Jordan scored thirty one points, the rest
Speaker 2: of his team scored forty one points, and they lose
Speaker 2: to Detroit again despite Jordan averaging thirty seven, seven and
Speaker 2: seven for the series. So now, now we've gotten through
Speaker 2: the early Jordan part of the careers, the struggles to
Speaker 2: beat Bird, the struggles to beat the Pistons, and now
Speaker 2: we're about to get to the championship portion of his career.
Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 2: Sweeped the Knicks in round one, Round two beats Chuck
Speaker 2: and the Sixers again. Scores forty six in Game three
Speaker 2: in that series, which is actually the only game the
Speaker 2: Bulls lost.
Speaker 3: In the elimination game of that series.
Speaker 2: Has thirty eight points, nineteen rebounds, and seven assists for
Speaker 2: that series against Chuck average thirty three, eight and eight.
Speaker 2: Then full vindication against the Pistons of the instag Commors
Speaker 2: Finals sweeps him out of the playoffs. Mj averages thirty
Speaker 2: five and seven, thirty points, five rebounds, seven assists. The
Speaker 2: Bulls went eleven to one in route to the finals.
Speaker 2: In his first Finals game ever against Magic and the Lakers,
Speaker 2: he has thirty six points, eight rebounds, twelve assists, but
Speaker 2: they lose. The Bulls would then win the next four
Speaker 2: to win the title. That's an instinct Finals to go
Speaker 2: back and rewatch because the Lakers essentially dared Michael to
Speaker 2: be a passer and he did, and so he averaged
Speaker 2: thirty one points, seven rebounds, eleven assists, and he did
Speaker 2: on fifty six percent shooting, so he wasn't forcing shots.
Speaker 2: Who's saying the shots when they were there fifty six
Speaker 2: percent shooting, his best shooting performance in any finals ever,
Speaker 2: in his best assist performance of any finals ever. He's
Speaker 2: a finals MVP. Obviously, he's a champion nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 2: As an defending champ, he unleashes. He doesn't have his
Speaker 2: best finals ever, but you I would argue his best
Speaker 2: playoff run ever. Miami Round one sweep forty six eleven
Speaker 2: and nine, then thirty three thirteen and six, and.
Speaker 3: Then fifty six, five and five.
Speaker 2: So to sweep Miami scores forty six, goes forty six
Speaker 2: eleven and nine, thirty three thirteen and six, and then
Speaker 2: fifty six, five and five. Round two against the Knicks,
Speaker 2: series is tied to two scores thirty seven to take
Speaker 2: the series lead, and then in Game seven drops forty
Speaker 2: two on him and blows them out. Averages in the
Speaker 2: Eastern Conference Finals against the Cavs thirty two, six and six,
Speaker 2: and then absolutely annihilates Clyde Drexler, the second best shooting
Speaker 2: guard in the NBA in the NBA Finals and by
Speaker 2: the way that Blazers seem had been to the finals
Speaker 2: a couple years prior against Detroit, annihilates Drexler. In Game one,
Speaker 2: he is thirty nine and eleven. That's the shrug game
Speaker 2: with six first half threes. They blow him out. In
Speaker 2: Game two, they lose, but he has thirty nine to ten.
Speaker 2: In Game five, the series is tied. Now going for
Speaker 2: back to back titles. Series tied two games apiece. Michael
Speaker 2: Jordan scored forty six points and five rebounds, four assists,
Speaker 2: and then to win the title, they are down fifteen
Speaker 2: headed into the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3: This game never gets discussed.
Speaker 2: Game six, the ninety two Finals, down fifteen headed in
Speaker 2: the fourth, leads a massive comeback, finishes with thirty three points.
Speaker 2: Averages for the series thirty six points, five rebounds, six
Speaker 2: assists on fifty three percent shooting, while Drexler averages just
Speaker 2: twenty five points on forty percent shooting. Now it is
Speaker 2: two titles, two finals MVPs nineteen ninety three. Jordan, and
Speaker 2: this is the other Jordan, before his father was tragically murdered,
Speaker 2: was already listening to a mad Rashad talking about retirement.
Speaker 3: He's running on fumes. Don Matter sweeps.
Speaker 2: Atlanta and Cleveland in rounds one and two, and by
Speaker 2: the way, it has another series winner against the Caves.
Speaker 2: It's not as iconic because they weren't trailing, because they
Speaker 2: were up three to zero in the series. But another
Speaker 2: series winning jump shut against the Caves and averages thirty two,
Speaker 2: six and five across those first two sweeps. But then
Speaker 2: this is an interesting moment, entering fork in the road
Speaker 2: moment for Jordan. This was probably the closest he came
Speaker 2: to a true disastrous playoff moment, but Pippin bailed him out.
Speaker 2: They're down h two to the Knicks, and that's when
Speaker 2: they're discussing, oh, he's was out all night gambling. Everyone
Speaker 2: remembers Game four. Game three, he was three for eight
Speaker 2: down oh two to the Knicks. Jordan goes three for eighteen,
Speaker 2: but Pippin's excellent and they win. And then in game
Speaker 2: four that twenty drop fifty four on the Knicks to
Speaker 2: take recontrol of the series. Then Game five's the Charles
Speaker 2: Smith game, when Charles Smith gets blocked four times at
Speaker 2: the rim. Jordan had twenty nine points, ten rebounds, fourteen assists.
Speaker 2: The Bulls win four straight and they're back.
Speaker 3: In the finals. And then in those finals.
Speaker 2: He had arguably the greatest finals anyone has ever had.
Speaker 2: There's the short list of the greatest finals anyone has
Speaker 2: ever had. Giannison twenty twenty, Lebron in twenty sixteen. We
Speaker 2: can you know, you can pick your favorite magic finals,
Speaker 2: but Jordan and d Wade and O six the greatest
Speaker 2: finals anyone ever had as far as start to finish.
Speaker 2: Giannison twenty twenty is close, but Jordan in ninety three
Speaker 2: is pretty spectacular. By the way, Just just remember Jordan
Speaker 2: had just taken a couple of years prior played Philly
Speaker 2: in ninety one, and Jordan annihilation Yeah, ninety and ninety one,
Speaker 2: Jordan annihilates Philadelphia with Berkeley there, Barkley is now in
Speaker 2: the Suns.
Speaker 3: Barkley is the league MVP. And this is what Michael
Speaker 3: Jordan does.
Speaker 2: Game one thirty one points, seven rebounds, five assists, five
Speaker 2: steals in a win. Game two forty two points, twelve rebounds,
Speaker 2: nine assists in a three point close win. Game three,
Speaker 2: forty four points, nine rebounds, six assists in a triple
Speaker 2: overtime loss. Game four fifty five points, eight rebounds, four
Speaker 2: assists to go up three to one in the series.
Speaker 2: Game five, championship on the line, forty one points, seven rebounds,
Speaker 2: seven assists, but they lose Game six. Thirty three points,
Speaker 2: eight rebounds, six assists in the game where Packson hits
Speaker 2: the shot to win the title and have the first
Speaker 2: three repeat in the NBA since Russell's Celtics. For that
Speaker 2: NBA Finals, Michael Jordan averaged forty one points, nine rebounds,
Speaker 2: and six assists on fifty one percent shooting. It might
Speaker 2: be the greatest Finals performance anyone's ever had. He then retired,
Speaker 2: and this is now, this is the small part of
Speaker 2: the Jordan story that doesn't get told, but we will
Speaker 2: tell it because again, not telling it denies him some
Speaker 2: of his greatness. He retires, comes back for the tail
Speaker 2: end of missus the ninety four season, comes back for
Speaker 2: the tail end of the ninety five season, and in
Speaker 2: those ninety five playoffs he was at the absolutely awesome
Speaker 2: until the very last game where he wasn't What do
Speaker 2: I mean by that. Everyone remembers the ninety six team,
Speaker 2: which we'll get to. They won seventy two games, they
Speaker 2: won the title in ninety five.
Speaker 3: Jordan averaged more.
Speaker 2: Points, rebounds, assists, and shot a better percentage from the
Speaker 2: field in the playoffs in ninety five than in ninety six.
Speaker 2: His first playoff game again year and a half out
Speaker 2: of the sport first playoff game, he had forty eight points,
Speaker 2: nine rebounds, eight assists. He had against Orlando in round two,
Speaker 2: the team that beat him, he had thirty eight. In
Speaker 2: game two, he had forty. In game three, he had
Speaker 2: thirty nine in game five. But game six he was
Speaker 2: eight of nineteen. He only had twenty four points. He
Speaker 2: had six turnovers. Nick Anderson sold the ball from him
Speaker 2: and they lost. So here's the thing with Jordan, because
Speaker 2: people don't want to acknowledge that.
Speaker 3: He ever lost.
Speaker 2: They try to tell you story, Oh he was rusty,
Speaker 2: what he was awesome?
Speaker 3: He averaged thirty one that series.
Speaker 2: He scored forty eight his first game of the playoffs
Speaker 2: and against Shaq and Orlando and Penny, he had a
Speaker 2: thirty eight point game, a forty point game, a thirty
Speaker 2: nine point game. But game six a little loose with
Speaker 2: the ball and lost, and Orlando obviously goes on. They
Speaker 2: beat the Pacers in the conference finals. They go on
Speaker 2: to lose to a Keem in the finals. So the
Speaker 2: next year, Jordan is back with a vengeance. They win
Speaker 2: seventy two games of then record, he has thirty five
Speaker 2: points to open the playoffs in an easy sweep in Miami.
Speaker 2: He has forty four points to open round two against
Speaker 2: the Knicks, forty six points in game three against the Knicks,
Speaker 2: and thirty five to.
Speaker 3: Close them mountain five.
Speaker 2: Then they get Orlando in round two total vindication sweep Orlando.
Speaker 2: So they went eleven to one in the Eastern Conference
Speaker 2: section of the playoffs. And in that sweep against Orlando,
Speaker 2: we had thirty five in game two, I'm yeah, thirty
Speaker 2: five in.
Speaker 3: Game two do I no, no, no, I don't have that.
Speaker 2: I apologize, uh, thirty five in game two and forty
Speaker 2: five in game four to send them home. And then
Speaker 2: the finals are an interesting one because that Bulls team
Speaker 2: wasn't obviously an awesome team, but the the Sonics could
Speaker 2: have presented an interesting matchup for him. But George Carl's
Speaker 2: just was just so. It wouldn't let Gary Payton guard Jordan,
Speaker 2: So what does it matter? First three games of the finals,
Speaker 2: Jordan averaged thirty one points, five rebounds, five assists and
Speaker 2: shot forty six percent from the field, and they.
Speaker 3: Go up three to zero.
Speaker 2: It is then that George Carl says, okay, Gary, you
Speaker 2: guard Michael those last three games, he averaged twenty four points,
Speaker 2: five rebounds, three assists on thirty six percent shooting. So
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan, who annihilated every one in every finals he
Speaker 2: ever played in, averaged twenty four points and three assists
Speaker 2: on thirty six percent shooting. Once, Gary Payton was able
Speaker 2: to guard him, but they were already down three to
Speaker 2: up and they lost.
Speaker 3: You know, the Soundings.
Speaker 2: Won game four, they won game five, The Bulls win
Speaker 2: game six. And if I'm George carl or Gary Payton
Speaker 2: or Sean Kimpis still keeps me up at night. Jordan
Speaker 2: wins another finals MVP. It's his only finals MVP where
Speaker 2: the numbers are not off the charts, where the efficiency
Speaker 2: is down in the low forties, and where those points
Speaker 2: per game are not obscene. Twenty seven points, five rebounds,
Speaker 2: four assists. But he's clear Finals MVP. He's champion again.
Speaker 2: Ninety seven. Now we're in the ninety seven playoffs. Defending
Speaker 2: champ has a fifty five point game on Washington in
Speaker 2: game two of round one, has thirty four points, eleven rebounds,
Speaker 2: six thiss, four steals in game one of round two
Speaker 2: against Atlanta against.
Speaker 3: Miami, and these are reverened Finals.
Speaker 2: He actually struggled a little bit, shooting less than forty percent,
Speaker 2: averaging less than three assists per game. But and it
Speaker 2: did look like the Jazz could beat the Bulls. But
Speaker 2: they couldn't because Jordan killed him. Opens the finals with
Speaker 2: thirty one points, four rebounds, eight assists, and the game
Speaker 2: winning buzzer beater after Karl Malone misses two free throws.
Speaker 2: That's what you know created the mailman doesn't deliver on
Speaker 2: Sunday's posters. Game two has thirty eight points, thirteen rebounds,
Speaker 2: nine assists to go up two zero. He doesn't play
Speaker 2: that well in games three and four, and they even
Speaker 2: the series in Utah. And this is back when it's
Speaker 2: two three to two, Game five ninety seven.
Speaker 3: Does it ring a bell? Yeah it does. It's the
Speaker 3: flu game. So what happened in the flu game.
Speaker 2: It's not the flu game, the hangover game, whatever, the
Speaker 2: bad pizza game, whatever you want to call it. Here's
Speaker 2: what happened in that game. He has thirty eight points,
Speaker 2: seven rebounds, five assists, including fifteen fourth quarter points in
Speaker 2: a fourth quarter comeback. The Jazz as a whole had
Speaker 2: sixteen in the fourth quarter. It was tied with forty
Speaker 2: five seconds left. MJ misses a free throw, gets it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I know you're gonna be checked. He did miss free
Speaker 2: throws occasionally, but he misses a free throw, gets his
Speaker 2: own rebound, ends up hitting a three. Unbelievable, misses a three,
Speaker 2: missus a free throw, ends up hitting a three, which
Speaker 2: was obviously rare.
Speaker 3: So now they're up three.
Speaker 2: And they end up winning the game. That's how they
Speaker 2: win the FLU game. Game six, another fourth quarter comeback.
Speaker 2: Jordan adds thirty nine points and eleven rebounds, has ten
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, and then Kerr hits the game
Speaker 2: winning fifteen footer off the MJ assist. MJ for the
Speaker 2: series thirty two points, seven rebound, six assists, and another
Speaker 2: finals MVP, And now we're to the Lives Dance nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety eight averages thirty six in a round one sweep
Speaker 2: of the Nets, averages thirty five and five, thirty points,
Speaker 2: five rebounds, five assists.
Speaker 3: In round two against Charlotte.
Speaker 2: Has forty one points, four rebounds, five assists, four steals
Speaker 2: to go up two all in the Pacers again in
Speaker 2: these rounds finals, but Chicago loses games three, four, and six.
Speaker 3: By two, two and three. The game six is the
Speaker 3: famous one.
Speaker 2: Reggie Miller's got the hurd ankle and then he pushes off,
Speaker 2: gets the open shot, hits the three to win the game.
Speaker 3: Larry Bird walks and doesn't respond.
Speaker 2: Now, all of a sudden, the Bulls are facing in
Speaker 2: game seven for just the second time in their championship runs,
Speaker 2: for the second time and since they started winning titles,
Speaker 2: and what happens?
Speaker 3: Oh, pardon me?
Speaker 2: In game seven he has twenty eight, nine and eight
Speaker 2: and they handle the Pacers.
Speaker 3: So now we're to the finals.
Speaker 2: Down oh one to the finals has thirty seven points,
Speaker 2: including thirteen in the fourth to critically even the series.
Speaker 2: Up to one in the finals, has thirty four and eight,
Speaker 2: including eleven in the fourth to win the game. Now
Speaker 2: they're up three to one in the finals. Game five,
Speaker 2: he's okay, but late down two with the ball, Jordan
Speaker 2: pulls up from three and misses. So now it's a
Speaker 2: little treacherous. Now we're going back to Utah again.
Speaker 3: Two three to two. Format had a chance to win
Speaker 3: the title.
Speaker 2: Now Utah's home court advantage, and that is what leads
Speaker 2: to I believe the single finest game of his career,
Speaker 2: which is the final game as a bull. Now the
Speaker 2: numbers don't say it's the final game of his career.
Speaker 2: It's kind of an odd box score. He had forty
Speaker 2: five points, one rebound, one assists on fifteen.
Speaker 3: Of thirty five shooting.
Speaker 2: There were a dozen games I listed here more than that,
Speaker 2: better than that. But given the context that Pittman's back
Speaker 2: was shot, Rodman wasn't Rodman was hanging on by a thread.
Speaker 2: They were staring at a game seven in Utah after
Speaker 2: they just survived a game seven against Indiana and the
Speaker 2: Bulls couldn't score. I mean, Jordan scored forty five, the
Speaker 2: team didn't score ninety. The context of it and how
Speaker 2: he finished it makes it the single finest game of
Speaker 2: his career.
Speaker 3: Game seven was gonna be in Utah. As I mentioned.
Speaker 2: Another fourth quarter comeback where MJ scores sixteen in the
Speaker 2: fourth quarter, including this sequence to win his sixth.
Speaker 3: And final championship.
Speaker 2: Down three with forty seconds left, races down the court.
Speaker 2: Is a total gaff by Utah. Let him get it
Speaker 2: so quick. Races down the court and gets a layup,
Speaker 2: then steals the ball from alone along the baseline, then
Speaker 2: the shot over Russell. For the finals, average thirty four points,
Speaker 2: four rebounds to assists for the for his sixth title,
Speaker 2: his six Finals MVP, and his final game as a
Speaker 2: member of the Chicago Bulls. He then, actually, by the way,
Speaker 2: was those two years with the Wizards average combined twenty
Speaker 2: one points was not some bum of a player, but
Speaker 2: never made the playoffs, so his final playoff resume. In
Speaker 2: addition to the six titles and six finals MVPs, he
Speaker 2: led the playoffs in points per game ten times. He
Speaker 2: has the second most career playoff points, behind only Lebron.
Speaker 2: He is the most career playoff points per game at
Speaker 2: thirty three and a half. Only Luca is above thirty.
Speaker 2: He has the fourth most career Finals points, behind only
Speaker 2: Jerry West, Lebron, and Kareem.
Speaker 3: He has the second most.
Speaker 2: Career Finals points per game, behind only Rick Berry. He
Speaker 2: has one one hundred and nine career thirty point playoff games,
Speaker 2: the second most of all time, behind only Lebron. He
Speaker 2: has thirty eight career forty point playoff games, the most
Speaker 2: of all time. He has eight career fifty point playoff games.
Speaker 2: No one else has even five. There are only forty
Speaker 2: five total in NBA history. There have been eleven NBA
Speaker 2: playoff games whereas someone has scored at least fifty five points.
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan did it five times. Everyone else has done
Speaker 2: it six. He is one of only three fifty plus
Speaker 2: point finals games in the last fifty years. Lebron and
Speaker 2: Giannis have the other two. And he, of course has
Speaker 2: the most points ever in a playoff game. He did
Speaker 2: that in You're to the sixty three points against Larry
Speaker 2: Bird and the Celtics.
Speaker 3: So there it is thirty minutes. I hope I did
Speaker 3: it justice.
Speaker 2: On the third greatest player of the last fifty years
Speaker 2: in the NBA, Michael Jordan. We'll take a quick break
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Speaker 2: despite all of that, I am nothing but a Michael
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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back.
Speaker 2: It is a special edition of What's Right with Nick
Speaker 2: great the fifty greatest players of the last fifty years,
Speaker 2: and today was number three.
Speaker 3: It was one Michael Jordan. So listen, I spent I think.
Speaker 2: That was thirty minutes a giving as fair and full
Speaker 2: accounting for the greatness that was Michael Jordan's career, who
Speaker 2: packed about as much winning an offensive dominance as one
Speaker 2: could pack into a really a twelve year prime of
Speaker 2: his career. He played thirteen years with the Bulls and
Speaker 2: then two years with the Wizards, but it was a
Speaker 2: twelve year prime that we're talking about there.
Speaker 3: So that was.
Speaker 2: Treating the Jordan one the way I've treated all of these,
Speaker 2: which is these are tributes that it is, you know,
Speaker 2: an honor to be anywhere on here.
Speaker 3: I understand.
Speaker 2: However, the Jordan one is going to come across differently
Speaker 2: because the majority of people think he is the best
Speaker 2: player ever, and no one ever stops for a moment
Speaker 2: to consider should Kareem be ahead of him? Whenever there's
Speaker 2: a debate about the goat, it's Jordan Lebron, Lebron, Jordan,
Speaker 2: Jordan Lebron. Kareem has such a strong argument that it
Speaker 2: had to be considered. And once I considered it, I
Speaker 2: came to the personal, my own list. My personal feeling
Speaker 2: is that it's not just that Lebron has had a
Speaker 2: better career than Michael Jordan, Kareem.
Speaker 3: Had as well. Now we'll see who ends up being
Speaker 3: number one on my list.
Speaker 2: I know everyone assumes they know what it's going to be,
Speaker 2: but everyone assumed it was going to be Lebron one,
Speaker 2: Jordan two.
Speaker 3: So we'll see. I say all that to say this, Now,
Speaker 3: we're gonna.
Speaker 2: Have some callers that are going to attack my integrity
Speaker 2: and the credibility of the list. And this is the
Speaker 2: segment where if I have to fight back, I might
Speaker 2: it might set well. We'll see what they say. We'll
Speaker 2: see if I'm able to just stay positive about Michael
Speaker 2: Jordan or I to bring some facts to what is
Speaker 2: going to be an emotionally wroughten discussion.
Speaker 3: Let's go to our first call.
Speaker 5: Hey, Nick, what's up, man? It's Greg Olsen, your colleague
Speaker 5: at Fox, And let me just tell you, living here
Speaker 5: in North Carolina and having a lot of friends in Chicago,
Speaker 5: you are not a very popular man right now. I
Speaker 5: know you just released your top fifty NBA players in
Speaker 5: the last fifty years, and the gentleman you have at
Speaker 5: number three by the name of Michael Jordan. People are
Speaker 5: not happy. I think you might want to I don't
Speaker 5: feel great about it. I'll be honest. I'm a Jordan guy.
Speaker 5: I don't know if you can have a list for
Speaker 5: Jordan's not number one. But I'll tell you what. The
Speaker 5: people that I know in Chicago and the folks here
Speaker 5: at North Carolina who bleed tar heel blue, you are
Speaker 5: not on the top of their list. So I would
Speaker 5: highly recommend maybe not coming through these woods for a while.
Speaker 5: And I wish you the best of luck.
Speaker 2: Well, listen, Greg, that is a good entry point to this.
Speaker 2: Greg didn't really attack me. He just said I'm not popular,
Speaker 2: you know. I'll be honest, I hadn't thought about I
Speaker 2: knew people in Chicago wouldn't be wouldn't be happy with me,
Speaker 2: And we're gonna hear from some people in Chicago in
Speaker 2: just a moment I didn't think about have folks in
Speaker 2: the great state of North Carolina.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I like the tar heels. I'm a tar
Speaker 3: heel guy.
Speaker 2: That those people are gonna be mad at me about this,
Speaker 2: that's a bit of a bummer, that's all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 3: There. Now we'll go to Chicago. I don't even know
Speaker 3: who we're going to in Chicago.
Speaker 2: It's either gonna be someone who played with Michael Jordan
Speaker 2: or someone who idolized and covered Michael Jordan.
Speaker 3: Either way should be good. Let's go to the next caller.
Speaker 3: So let me get this straight.
Speaker 6: Nick Wright is putting Michael Jordan third. Okay, let's let's
Speaker 6: talk about Kareem first, who.
Speaker 3: Was maybe the.
Speaker 6: I don't know, fourth best player on his team when
Speaker 6: he won his last two championships and was injured and
Speaker 6: not on the court when Magic Johnson carried them to
Speaker 6: a title in nineteen eighty playing center, and by the way,
Speaker 6: Kareem had all sorts of migraines and problems in the
Speaker 6: Boston Gardens years when they could have won the title.
Speaker 6: But okay, let's put Kareem ahead of Michael Jordan and
Speaker 6: then the other guy who scored eight points in a
Speaker 6: finals game being guarded by JJ Brea and lost to
Speaker 6: the MAVs up two games to one.
Speaker 7: Who in his career, the two biggest shots that were
Speaker 7: hit when he was on the court was by Ray
Speaker 7: Allen after he missed a three, and Kyrie Irving with
Speaker 7: him standing in the corner. Kyrie with a contested shot,
Speaker 7: the biggest shot in Cleveland history.
Speaker 3: But oh yeah, block was really really sweet.
Speaker 7: And then there's the other guy who in his prime
Speaker 7: was the best offensive and defensive player in the game.
Speaker 7: Thirty seven a night, two hundred steals, one hundred blocks
Speaker 7: in back to back seasons, Offensive Player of the Year,
Speaker 7: Defensive Player of the Year MVP. And then oh yeah,
Speaker 7: let's give you one All Star and oh yeah, you'll
Speaker 7: win six championships and never lose. And by the way,
Speaker 7: that one All Star, he basically was worthless.
Speaker 6: In ninety seven and ninety eight. But let's put Michael
Speaker 6: Jordan third. This is offensive. This is ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, that's a great job by KRM. So
Speaker 2: that's Mark Carmon. You can hear him on WG in
Speaker 2: Chicago Riemon fans sided.
Speaker 3: You can also check out his diary.
Speaker 2: Which has little Michael Jordan pictures and hearts written in it.
Speaker 2: So let's first talk about the Kaream thing. He is
Speaker 2: right that Kareem when he won his last two rings
Speaker 2: was not anywhere close to the best player on that
Speaker 2: Lakers scene. Now fourth best is a gross exaggeration, but
Speaker 2: not anywhere close to what magic was.
Speaker 3: But I'm not a counting the rings got. It is not.
Speaker 2: Purely about how many rings you have, but Kareem does
Speaker 2: have six. But that's not why I have Kaream in
Speaker 2: the top two. What he said about nineteen eighty was
Speaker 2: an absurdity, though the idea that magic was unbelievable in
Speaker 2: Game six when Kareem was hurt, no one can deny that.
Speaker 2: But in that series that even if they had lost
Speaker 2: Game six, I believe the Lakers would have won over
Speaker 2: the Sixers. Kareem averaged thirty three and fourteen on fifty
Speaker 2: five percent shooting with five blocks per game. So let's
Speaker 2: not disparage Kareem, who was undefeated in high school lost
Speaker 2: once in college by year two was well, we'll get
Speaker 2: to Kareem later in the series. Then what he said
Speaker 2: about Lebron there was a lot there on the Lebron
Speaker 2: thing that the two biggest shots of his career were
Speaker 2: hit by other people, Well, I would disagree with that.
Speaker 2: I would argue personally, the Game seven shot over in
Speaker 2: the Spurs series up to with the ball to ice
Speaker 2: the championship, is on par with the Kyrie shot, because
Speaker 2: the Kyrie shot, as critical as it was, the game
Speaker 2: was tied and the Warriors were dead, the Warriors were
Speaker 2: not scoring anymore. But even if it's true that there,
Speaker 2: nobody's denying the Ray Allen shot of it, and if
Speaker 2: we want to remove the context of the heat, were
Speaker 2: down huge in the fourth quarter of that Game six,
Speaker 2: and Lebron brought him all the way back with an
Speaker 2: all time fourth quarter performance. And then in Game six
Speaker 2: or Game seven, the Kyrie game, obviously the block, obviously
Speaker 2: the back to back.
Speaker 3: Threes or the three and the three point play.
Speaker 2: If we want to, you know, just distill it down
Speaker 2: to those shots, then you've got to acknowledge that in
Speaker 2: the biggest shots of Michael Jordan, the biggest shots that
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan was a part of, there's the Byron Russell shot,
Speaker 2: but there's also the Kerr and the Paxson shot, and
Speaker 2: the one All Star thing, I'm not gonna I won't
Speaker 2: even engage on Scotti Gibbens, an all time player.
Speaker 3: They won fifty four games near Jordan retired.
Speaker 2: He had arguably the greatest coach of all time every
Speaker 2: step of the way. Dennis Rodin was a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2: Tony Kuk coach is a Hall of famer. So don't
Speaker 2: give me the one all star thing. So like, I'm
Speaker 2: not again disrespecting anything Jordan did. But the now, the
Speaker 2: point Carr made about Jordan doesn't have a moment as
Speaker 2: bad as the eight point finals game against the MAVs
Speaker 2: and the series as bad as that one.
Speaker 3: That is correct.
Speaker 2: That is absolutely correct that Jordan doesn't have a valley
Speaker 2: like that. But Jordan also does not have the body
Speaker 2: of work that Kareem and Lebron have and their peaks
Speaker 2: were if Jordan's.
Speaker 3: Peak, if even if we even want to just.
Speaker 2: Say Jordan had the highest peak, if Jordan's peak was
Speaker 2: a one hundred, Lebron's peak was a ninety eight and
Speaker 2: a half, and Kareem's peak was a ninety eight. But
Speaker 2: if Jordan stayed at that peak for seven years and
Speaker 2: Lebron stayed there for fifteen and Kareem stayed there forever
Speaker 2: long he did. That's a differentiator. And one last point,
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan was an amazing defender, and I don't know
Speaker 2: when defensive Player of the year. There was no moment
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan's the best defensive player in basketball, no more
Speaker 2: so than Lebron or Kobe other guys who were all
Speaker 2: time great players and also all time great defenders. But
Speaker 2: I know Jordan won Defensive Player of the Year. He
Speaker 2: wasn't a better defender that year than Dennis Rodman, and
Speaker 2: he wasn't a better defensive player at any point with
Speaker 2: the Bulls.
Speaker 3: Then they're championship beers in Scotty Pippen.
Speaker 2: Let's be serious here, Okay, now, someone who won championships
Speaker 2: with Michael Jordan, Let's go to him before we move on.
Speaker 8: There is no sustain as the greatest of all time.
Speaker 8: Reason being is because there's no start and there's no ending.
Speaker 8: Every generation takes from the previous generation and they add
Speaker 8: to it. You know, so you're gonna say this guy
Speaker 8: is the greatest. Well, those guys in the sixties didn't
Speaker 8: have the same equipment, There wasn't the same knowledge, same opportunities.
Speaker 3: The Arena's training.
Speaker 8: Like, I just came to the conclusion that you know what,
Speaker 8: there is no greatest. This generation is enamored with Michael Jordan.
Speaker 8: The reason y'all enamored with him is because y'all didn't
Speaker 8: see him play.
Speaker 3: Michael Jordan is the standard of the modern athlete that
Speaker 3: all of y'all know.
Speaker 8: The fact remains is y'all don't know nothing that happened
Speaker 8: before him.
Speaker 3: See that's the sad part to me about these discussions.
Speaker 8: We want to act like everything started in nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 8: Truth be told, Connie Hawkins, Elgind Baylor, Doctor j those
Speaker 8: people were doing the same thing.
Speaker 2: So there's Bj Armstrong, who I would encourage to watch
Speaker 2: the series. Nobody gave Doctor j more love anywhere outside
Speaker 2: of the greater Philadelphia area than I did right here.
Speaker 2: And by the way, I made a big I don't
Speaker 2: know if BJ knows, but when we say Jordan's three,
Speaker 2: one of the people ahead of him is Kareem whose
Speaker 2: careers started more than fifty years ago, was the inspiration
Speaker 2: for this list. So I actually think in general BJ
Speaker 2: makes some fair points to the overall discussion just doesn't
Speaker 2: apply to me and my list, which is the perfect,
Speaker 2: definitive list of the fifty greatest players of the last
Speaker 2: fifty years. We'll be right back to preview the top
Speaker 2: two of sex all right, So there it is number three,
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan, and that leaves us Kareem and Lebron gonna
Speaker 2: be the two all time leading scores, or they already are.
Speaker 2: The two guys are the most all NBA teams, the
Speaker 2: most Top three MVP finishes, the most Top five MVP finishes,
Speaker 2: the two guys whose you can bridge almost the entirety.
Speaker 3: Of the timeline of this.
Speaker 2: List by their careers. In fact, you know what now
Speaker 2: I think of it our top three. It spans the
Speaker 2: entire list from Kareem to when he retired Jordan took
Speaker 2: over to when he retired for the final time with Washington,
Speaker 2: Lebron took over.
Speaker 3: And so.
Speaker 2: I sat a long time ago. Moses was the inspiration
Speaker 2: for this list. Doctor j was the most gratifying portion
Speaker 2: of the list because I was, when I started wearing
Speaker 2: this few years ago, like truly ignorant to so much
Speaker 2: much of the ABA stuff. And obviously I've done a
Speaker 2: lot of the Lebron League work in real time in
Speaker 2: my professional career. And during the pandemic, the very beginning,
Speaker 2: when there was no sports going on, we did a
Speaker 2: countdown of the ten greatest playoff games of Lebron's career,
Speaker 2: so I had some of the framework of that done already.
Speaker 2: The green stuff is jarring, and I'm excited to get
Speaker 2: into it. I'm excited to lay out the case for
Speaker 2: he for the case for him and the case for Lebron,
Speaker 2: and I'm excited for people to see this and not
Speaker 2: actually see it, just see the updated list and be
Speaker 2: livid by the way this Also, we did this contest
Speaker 2: of can you name the top twelve? I think I
Speaker 2: have found one person.
Speaker 3: That got it right. I'm not gonna say who.
Speaker 2: That is, but we have one. It's not only there
Speaker 2: was only ever gonna be one winner. It was gonna
Speaker 2: be whoever got it right first, but the curve ball
Speaker 2: of having Jordan three instead of two made one hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty people who thought they had it right until
Speaker 2: this video came out realized they didn't.
Speaker 3: But we do have at least one winner. Well, we
Speaker 3: do have one winner.
Speaker 2: I think it's the person that I have sent to
Speaker 2: the group, but that won't be revealed for another week.
Speaker 2: We join us next Sunday for the second greatest player
Speaker 2: of the last fifty years on What's Right with Nick Raignis. Hey,
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