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Very terms 10 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: apply All State Fire and Casualty Insurance Company and Affiliates, Northbrook, Illinois. 11 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 2: Welcome in another very special edition of the fifty greatest 12 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: Players of the last fifty years. As we continue our 13 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 2: countdown and we are now to the truly hollowed ground, 14 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: the top three and all along everyone has known who 15 00:00:58,160 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: the top three are. The top three are going to 16 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 2: be in some order, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Lebron James and 17 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 2: Michael Jordan. The question has always been what is the order? 18 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: And let me say this, I know some people when 19 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: we do the goat debate a ton on sports television, 20 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 2: and one thing I have been incredibly consistent on and 21 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 2: some people agree with me. 22 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 3: I think Dan Patrick agrees with me. 23 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 2: I think the man I'm about to mention himself agrees 24 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 2: with me that the goat debate is almost always constricted 25 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 2: to Lebron and Michael. But there is a third person that, 26 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 2: by any measure, should be included, and that is Kareem 27 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: Abdul Jabbar. And so if the goat debate is truly 28 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 2: a three person debate, that means there should there is 29 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 2: someone who might be the greatest player ever, who actually 30 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: must come in as the. 31 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 3: Third greatest player ever. 32 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 2: And that is how we land here today in one 33 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 2: of the most famous, most celebrated, most accomplished athletes in 34 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 2: the history of any sport coming in at number three 35 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: on our list, the third greatest player of the last fifty. 36 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 3: Years, Number three, Michael Jordan. 37 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 2: Now, before I even get into it, let me say this. 38 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 3: This is a celebration of these players. 39 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: Okay, all of these lists, all of these videos have 40 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: been about how amazing these people were. 41 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 3: And everything they accomplished. 42 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: Now, by virtue of having Jordan third, folks are going 43 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: to say I am hating on him, I am trying 44 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 2: to tear him down. 45 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 3: None of that is true. And the way I would 46 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 3: like to do. 47 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: This is over the next twenty to twenty five minutes, 48 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 2: I'm going to speak in almost exclusively glowing terms about 49 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 2: Michael Jordan. Then we'll take a break, and on the 50 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,839 Speaker 2: back end, I'm sure we're gonna have some callers, maybe 51 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: even a caller that played with Michael Jordan, tell me 52 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 2: why I'm an idiot. On that side, I will defend 53 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 2: his ranking at three. 54 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 3: As opposed to two or as opposed to one. 55 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: But right now, what I want to talk about is 56 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: what he did, and what he did was arguably have the. 57 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 3: Highest peak of any player ever. 58 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 2: Jordan's apex, you could argue, is the goat apex. The 59 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 2: problem is, unlike Lebron and Kareem, the career was shockingly brief. 60 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: Now what he fit into that shockingly brief career is 61 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 2: all time stuff. So let's go through it. He is 62 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: ten time first Team All NBA. That is tied for 63 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: the fourth most ever, one time second team All NBA. 64 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: He is five time League MVP that is the second 65 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 2: most ever, and five other Top three finishes that is 66 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 2: ten total career top three MVP finishes. 67 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 3: Only Lebron and Kareem have more. 68 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: He is a ten times scoring champion, is a one 69 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: time Defensive Player of the Year. He is nine time 70 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 2: All Defense, He is a three times steals champ, and 71 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 2: he is fifth all time in points score on career 72 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 2: points per game. There's all regular season and stuff. We'll 73 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 2: get to the playoffs stuff shortly, as we always do. 74 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 2: Regular season the most, the thirty points per game in 75 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:27,239 Speaker 2: the regular season, the most ever, the only career thirty 76 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 2: point per game scorer in NBA regular season history, a 77 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 2: career average of thirty points, six rebounds, five assists on 78 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 2: fifty percent shooting. His first career thirty five point game 79 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 2: was the third game of his career. His first career 80 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 2: forty five point game was the tenth game. 81 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 3: Of his career. 82 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 2: And as you will see here, and as I want 83 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 2: to illustrate here briefly in the regular season portion before 84 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 2: we get to the playoffs, Jordan's career, I think, for 85 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 2: good and for bad, gets distilled far too often to 86 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: as if he only played six seasons, and that allows 87 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 2: people to say, oh, he never lost, which is obviously 88 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 2: not true. However, what it denies Jordan is how utterly 89 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 2: brilliant he was from almost the moment he walked in 90 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 2: the league. So Jordan is awesome as a rookie, wins 91 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year. Jordan in year two breaks his 92 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 2: foot and barely plays. Starting in year three, before he 93 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: ever sniffed a championship, Michael Jordan was already arguably the 94 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: best player in the sport. In year three, Michael Jordan 95 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 2: averaged thirty seven points per game. That is the most 96 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 2: points anyone has ever averaged in a season not. 97 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 3: Named Wilt Chamberlain. 98 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 2: In year four, Michael Jordan averaged thirty five points, five 99 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 2: rebounds six. In year five, a year he averaged a 100 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,239 Speaker 2: triple double for damn near a month he's playing point guard, 101 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 2: he averaged thirty three, eight and eight, and in year 102 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: six Michael Jordan averaged thirty four, seven and six. Those 103 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 2: years don't get discussed with the way they should because 104 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 2: they didn't end in championships. But those four seasons, years 105 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 2: three through six, Michael Jordan, over three hundred and thirty 106 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 2: games played in the regular season, averaged thirty. 107 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 3: Five, six and six, and then. 108 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 2: He started winning titles again before we get to the 109 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 2: playoffs start stuff. And again, by the way, that thirty five, 110 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 2: six and six came along with three steals per game, 111 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 2: on fifty two percent shooting Kobe Bryant did. It was 112 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 2: the best Michael Jordan impersonator we ever had, if you will, 113 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 2: for the late. 114 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 3: Great Kobe Bryant. 115 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 2: Well, Kobe Bryant was never acquired able to uh Master 116 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 2: was the efficiency that Jordan was able to score with 117 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 2: he is. He's scored at least thirty points five hundred 118 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 2: and sixty two times. 119 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 3: That is the most all time. 120 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 2: He's scored at least one hundred or of forty points 121 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy three times, one hundred and seventy 122 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 2: three forty point games. That is the second most all 123 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 2: time to WILF Chamberlain. He's scored at least fifty points 124 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: thirty one times. That is the second most all time 125 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 2: to Wilt Chamberlain. So now we get to the postseason, okay, 126 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 2: and what you are going to see is there is 127 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 2: almost and this is another check mark in Jordan's favor. 128 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: To his credit, unlike Lebron and unlike Kareem, he never 129 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 2: had the true dark playoff moment Lebron obviously in twenty eleven. 130 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 2: Kareem's were a little tougher. We'll get to it in 131 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 2: the Kareem video. Jordan didn't have that, and that's to 132 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 2: his credit Michael Jordan, because even when he got swept, 133 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 2: which happened early on, he wasn't playing poorly. So during 134 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: six time Champs, six Time Finals MVP nineteen eighty five, 135 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: he is a rookie. They are playing members Sydney Moncree 136 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: from those Milwaukee Bucks. He averaged is a rookie in 137 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 2: the playoffs twenty nine, six and nine and in the 138 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 2: only game they won, they lost three to one. He 139 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: had thirty five points, eight rebounds, seven assists, four steals. 140 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 2: Nineteen eighty six, he misses most of the season with 141 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 2: a foot injury. He came back shortly before the playoffs. 142 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 2: Played the eighty six Celtics in round one. Some people 143 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 2: argue that's the greatest team ever. Scored forty nine in 144 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 2: Game one and they lost in a blowout. Scored a 145 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 2: still playoff record sixty three points in a double overtime 146 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 2: loss in Game two. For this series, he averaged forty four, 147 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 2: six and six and his team got swept. The second 148 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 2: best player in the seam was Orlando Woolridge. Can't really 149 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 2: blame him for getting swept. He did average forty four, 150 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 2: six and sixteen eighty seven, he is swept by Boston again. 151 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 2: Despite this time he averaged only thirty six, seven and six. 152 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 2: He did have forty two in game two. So at 153 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 2: that point in his career has been in league three years. 154 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 2: And boy, oh boy, if we had the modern media 155 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 2: that we have now, then at that point Michael Jordan, 156 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 2: three years into his career, was owned three in playoff series, 157 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 2: was one in nine in playoff games. 158 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 3: And and here's something I only most people know. The 159 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 3: Bulls were under five hundred. They made the playoffs, but. 160 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 2: Were under five hundred in every one of those years. 161 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 2: It wouldn't have been fair. But today's mud have been like, uh, 162 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 2: can you win? With Michael Jordan nineteen eighty eighty answered 163 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 2: some of that wins League MVP Win's Defensive Player of 164 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 2: the Year wins his first career series. Game one against 165 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 2: Cleveland has fifty points. Game two against Cleveland has fifty 166 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 2: five points scored four twenty four In Game four against 167 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 2: Cleveland on seventy two percent shooting, but they lost do 168 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 2: or Die. Game five, scored thirty nine points. Average for 169 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 2: the series forty five, five and five for his first 170 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 2: series win. Very different story though in round two, you're 171 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 2: playing Detroit. He only scored thirty one time. It was 172 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 2: thirty six in a game two win, and they lose 173 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 2: in five. Thats a great Pistons team that would come 174 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 2: this close to winning the title if Isaiah doesn't sprint 175 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 2: his ankle. 176 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 3: Nineteen eighty nine. 177 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 2: First truly deep playoff run and his first truly iconic 178 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 2: playoff moment. Singular moment obviously at the iconic game, the 179 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 2: sixty three against Bert, one of the most famous shots 180 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 2: in NBA history, will. 181 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 3: Get to a in the moment. 182 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 2: Round one against Cleveland, scores thirty in every single game, 183 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 2: averages forty points, six rebounds, eight assists for the series. 184 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 3: Game three, series is tied one game apiece. 185 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 2: He throws up a forty four to seven ten and 186 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: five forty four to seven ten and five. In Game four, 187 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 2: he scores fifty, but they lose. No other Bulls scores 188 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 2: more than fifteen. They lose in overtime. Game five, he 189 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 2: has forty two, nine and six with one second left. 190 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 3: He finished with forty four, nine and six. Because he 191 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 3: takes the inbounds, hits. 192 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 2: The shot over Elo for the shot, and that is 193 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 2: a true as true of a do or die shot 194 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 2: as you can get. It's game five of five game series. 195 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 2: They are trailing by one. It is truly the final 196 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 2: shot of the game. If he misses it, their season 197 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: is over. If he makes it, maybe they can win 198 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 2: the title. He makes it for the so then goes on, well, 199 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: that's the shot that everyone's has seen for one hundred 200 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 2: years now. Round two against the Knicks averages thirty six points, 201 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 2: ten rebounds, eight assists. 202 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 3: Game three tied one to one in that series. 203 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 2: Pardon me uh. Game three tite won one in that series. 204 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 2: Has a forty fifteen, nine and six to take the 205 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 2: series lead. Game four has a forty seven, eleven and 206 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 2: six to go up three to one, and then in 207 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 2: Game six to close them out close out the Knicks. 208 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 3: Has a forty five and ten. 209 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 2: In the Eastern Conference Finals for the first time ever, 210 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 2: he puts up there one to one against Detroit. Game 211 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 2: three against the Detroit Pistons, the defending Eastern Conference champions, 212 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 2: but the Pistons have not won a title yet. Game 213 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 2: three series tie throws up a forty six, seven, five 214 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 2: and five, but then he's not great in Games four 215 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 2: and five and they lose three straight to lose the series. 216 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 2: Game six, Pipping plays one minute. It's one of the 217 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 2: famous things. Go to the last dance if you want 218 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 2: more unpipping struggles in the final games against the Pistons 219 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 2: in these couple of years, we're gonna talk about. Pippin 220 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 2: just averaged nine points for the series. Jordan, by the way, 221 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: for that postseason to get to his first career Compt 222 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 2: Finals thirty five, seven and eight. 223 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 3: So here is again, Jordan at this point has. 224 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 2: Never gotten out of the East and look at and 225 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 2: look at how great he had been in that post 226 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 2: in those postseasons. It's one of the reasons why I 227 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 2: hate when we just distill the career to the championship years. 228 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 2: It actually denies some of the greatness of early peak 229 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 2: athletic Michael Jordan. So nineteen ninety, he's now gotten his 230 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 2: first taste of the conference finals. Beats Milwaukee in round one. 231 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 2: Jordan averages thirty seven points, eight rebounds, seven assists, three block, 232 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 2: three steals. 233 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 3: Round two against Philly. 234 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 2: That Philly team had Charles Barkley, by the way, scored 235 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:43,719 Speaker 2: at least thirty seven in all five games, including the 236 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 2: following in games two, three, and four, a forty five, 237 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 2: eight and seven a forty nine to five and five 238 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 2: and a forty five, six and eleven. That's three straight 239 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 2: games for the series. Averaged forty three points, seven rebounds, 240 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 2: seven assists forced. Feels now he's got Detroit again. In 241 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference Finals, falls down oh two Detroit to 242 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 2: the defending champs, goes for forty seven and ten in 243 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: Game three, forty to a nine in Game four to 244 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 2: even the series games. They then split games five and 245 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 2: six Game seven. Mj Now listen to this because they 246 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 2: get blown out in Game seven. Okay, Jordan had thirty 247 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 2: one points, eight rebounds, nine assists, So how do they 248 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 2: get blown out? Well, pipping goes one for ten. Jordan 249 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 2: was thirteen of twenty seven. 250 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 3: From the field. 251 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 2: The rest of the Bulls were fifteen of sixty three 252 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 2: from the field. Jordan scored thirty one points, the rest 253 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 2: of his team scored forty one points, and they lose 254 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 2: to Detroit again despite Jordan averaging thirty seven, seven and 255 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 2: seven for the series. So now, now we've gotten through 256 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 2: the early Jordan part of the careers, the struggles to 257 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 2: beat Bird, the struggles to beat the Pistons, and now 258 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 2: we're about to get to the championship portion of his career. 259 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety one. 260 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 2: Sweeped the Knicks in round one, Round two beats Chuck 261 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 2: and the Sixers again. Scores forty six in Game three 262 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 2: in that series, which is actually the only game the 263 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 2: Bulls lost. 264 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 3: In the elimination game of that series. 265 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 2: Has thirty eight points, nineteen rebounds, and seven assists for 266 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 2: that series against Chuck average thirty three, eight and eight. 267 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: Then full vindication against the Pistons of the instag Commors 268 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 2: Finals sweeps him out of the playoffs. Mj averages thirty 269 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 2: five and seven, thirty points, five rebounds, seven assists. The 270 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 2: Bulls went eleven to one in route to the finals. 271 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 2: In his first Finals game ever against Magic and the Lakers, 272 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 2: he has thirty six points, eight rebounds, twelve assists, but 273 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 2: they lose. The Bulls would then win the next four 274 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 2: to win the title. That's an instinct Finals to go 275 00:15:55,800 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 2: back and rewatch because the Lakers essentially dared Michael to 276 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 2: be a passer and he did, and so he averaged 277 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 2: thirty one points, seven rebounds, eleven assists, and he did 278 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 2: on fifty six percent shooting, so he wasn't forcing shots. 279 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 2: Who's saying the shots when they were there fifty six 280 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 2: percent shooting, his best shooting performance in any finals ever, 281 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 2: in his best assist performance of any finals ever. He's 282 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 2: a finals MVP. Obviously, he's a champion nineteen ninety two. 283 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 2: As an defending champ, he unleashes. He doesn't have his 284 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 2: best finals ever, but you I would argue his best 285 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 2: playoff run ever. Miami Round one sweep forty six eleven 286 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 2: and nine, then thirty three thirteen and six, and. 287 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 3: Then fifty six, five and five. 288 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 2: So to sweep Miami scores forty six, goes forty six 289 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 2: eleven and nine, thirty three thirteen and six, and then 290 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 2: fifty six, five and five. Round two against the Knicks, 291 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 2: series is tied to two scores thirty seven to take 292 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 2: the series lead, and then in Game seven drops forty 293 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 2: two on him and blows them out. Averages in the 294 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 2: Eastern Conference Finals against the Cavs thirty two, six and six, 295 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 2: and then absolutely annihilates Clyde Drexler, the second best shooting 296 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 2: guard in the NBA in the NBA Finals and by 297 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 2: the way that Blazers seem had been to the finals 298 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 2: a couple years prior against Detroit, annihilates Drexler. In Game one, 299 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 2: he is thirty nine and eleven. That's the shrug game 300 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 2: with six first half threes. They blow him out. In 301 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 2: Game two, they lose, but he has thirty nine to ten. 302 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 2: In Game five, the series is tied. Now going for 303 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 2: back to back titles. Series tied two games apiece. Michael 304 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 2: Jordan scored forty six points and five rebounds, four assists, 305 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 2: and then to win the title, they are down fifteen 306 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 2: headed into the fourth quarter. 307 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 3: This game never gets discussed. 308 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 2: Game six, the ninety two Finals, down fifteen headed in 309 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 2: the fourth, leads a massive comeback, finishes with thirty three points. 310 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 2: Averages for the series thirty six points, five rebounds, six 311 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 2: assists on fifty three percent shooting, while Drexler averages just 312 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 2: twenty five points on forty percent shooting. Now it is 313 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 2: two titles, two finals MVPs nineteen ninety three. Jordan, and 314 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 2: this is the other Jordan, before his father was tragically murdered, 315 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 2: was already listening to a mad Rashad talking about retirement. 316 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 3: He's running on fumes. Don Matter sweeps. 317 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 2: Atlanta and Cleveland in rounds one and two, and by 318 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 2: the way, it has another series winner against the Caves. 319 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 2: It's not as iconic because they weren't trailing, because they 320 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 2: were up three to zero in the series. But another 321 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,719 Speaker 2: series winning jump shut against the Caves and averages thirty two, 322 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 2: six and five across those first two sweeps. But then 323 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: this is an interesting moment, entering fork in the road 324 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 2: moment for Jordan. This was probably the closest he came 325 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 2: to a true disastrous playoff moment, but Pippin bailed him out. 326 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 2: They're down h two to the Knicks, and that's when 327 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 2: they're discussing, oh, he's was out all night gambling. Everyone 328 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 2: remembers Game four. Game three, he was three for eight 329 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 2: down oh two to the Knicks. Jordan goes three for eighteen, 330 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 2: but Pippin's excellent and they win. And then in game 331 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 2: four that twenty drop fifty four on the Knicks to 332 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 2: take recontrol of the series. Then Game five's the Charles 333 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 2: Smith game, when Charles Smith gets blocked four times at 334 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 2: the rim. Jordan had twenty nine points, ten rebounds, fourteen assists. 335 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 2: The Bulls win four straight and they're back. 336 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 3: In the finals. And then in those finals. 337 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 2: He had arguably the greatest finals anyone has ever had. 338 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 2: There's the short list of the greatest finals anyone has 339 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 2: ever had. Giannison twenty twenty, Lebron in twenty sixteen. We 340 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 2: can you know, you can pick your favorite magic finals, 341 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 2: but Jordan and d Wade and O six the greatest 342 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 2: finals anyone ever had as far as start to finish. 343 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 2: Giannison twenty twenty is close, but Jordan in ninety three 344 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 2: is pretty spectacular. By the way, Just just remember Jordan 345 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 2: had just taken a couple of years prior played Philly 346 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 2: in ninety one, and Jordan annihilation Yeah, ninety and ninety one, 347 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 2: Jordan annihilates Philadelphia with Berkeley there, Barkley is now in 348 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 2: the Suns. 349 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 3: Barkley is the league MVP. And this is what Michael 350 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 3: Jordan does. 351 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 2: Game one thirty one points, seven rebounds, five assists, five 352 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 2: steals in a win. Game two forty two points, twelve rebounds, 353 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 2: nine assists in a three point close win. Game three, 354 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 2: forty four points, nine rebounds, six assists in a triple 355 00:20:55,000 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 2: overtime loss. Game four fifty five points, eight rebounds, four 356 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 2: assists to go up three to one in the series. 357 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 2: Game five, championship on the line, forty one points, seven rebounds, 358 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 2: seven assists, but they lose Game six. Thirty three points, 359 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 2: eight rebounds, six assists in the game where Packson hits 360 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 2: the shot to win the title and have the first 361 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 2: three repeat in the NBA since Russell's Celtics. For that 362 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 2: NBA Finals, Michael Jordan averaged forty one points, nine rebounds, 363 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 2: and six assists on fifty one percent shooting. It might 364 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,719 Speaker 2: be the greatest Finals performance anyone's ever had. He then retired, 365 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 2: and this is now, this is the small part of 366 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,479 Speaker 2: the Jordan story that doesn't get told, but we will 367 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 2: tell it because again, not telling it denies him some 368 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 2: of his greatness. He retires, comes back for the tail 369 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 2: end of missus the ninety four season, comes back for 370 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 2: the tail end of the ninety five season, and in 371 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 2: those ninety five playoffs he was at the absolutely awesome 372 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,959 Speaker 2: until the very last game where he wasn't What do 373 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 2: I mean by that. Everyone remembers the ninety six team, 374 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,479 Speaker 2: which we'll get to. They won seventy two games, they 375 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 2: won the title in ninety five. 376 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 3: Jordan averaged more. 377 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 2: Points, rebounds, assists, and shot a better percentage from the 378 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 2: field in the playoffs in ninety five than in ninety six. 379 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 2: His first playoff game again year and a half out 380 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 2: of the sport first playoff game, he had forty eight points, 381 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 2: nine rebounds, eight assists. He had against Orlando in round two, 382 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 2: the team that beat him, he had thirty eight. In 383 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 2: game two, he had forty. In game three, he had 384 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 2: thirty nine in game five. But game six he was 385 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 2: eight of nineteen. He only had twenty four points. He 386 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 2: had six turnovers. Nick Anderson sold the ball from him 387 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 2: and they lost. So here's the thing with Jordan, because 388 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 2: people don't want to acknowledge that. 389 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 3: He ever lost. 390 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 2: They try to tell you story, Oh he was rusty, 391 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 2: what he was awesome? 392 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 3: He averaged thirty one that series. 393 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 2: He scored forty eight his first game of the playoffs 394 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 2: and against Shaq and Orlando and Penny, he had a 395 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 2: thirty eight point game, a forty point game, a thirty 396 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 2: nine point game. But game six a little loose with 397 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,959 Speaker 2: the ball and lost, and Orlando obviously goes on. They 398 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 2: beat the Pacers in the conference finals. They go on 399 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 2: to lose to a Keem in the finals. So the 400 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 2: next year, Jordan is back with a vengeance. They win 401 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 2: seventy two games of then record, he has thirty five 402 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 2: points to open the playoffs in an easy sweep in Miami. 403 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 2: He has forty four points to open round two against 404 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 2: the Knicks, forty six points in game three against the Knicks, 405 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 2: and thirty five to. 406 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 3: Close them mountain five. 407 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 2: Then they get Orlando in round two total vindication sweep Orlando. 408 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 2: So they went eleven to one in the Eastern Conference 409 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 2: section of the playoffs. And in that sweep against Orlando, 410 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 2: we had thirty five in game two, I'm yeah, thirty 411 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 2: five in. 412 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 3: Game two do I no, no, no, I don't have that. 413 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 2: I apologize, uh, thirty five in game two and forty 414 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 2: five in game four to send them home. And then 415 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 2: the finals are an interesting one because that Bulls team 416 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 2: wasn't obviously an awesome team, but the the Sonics could 417 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 2: have presented an interesting matchup for him. But George Carl's 418 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 2: just was just so. It wouldn't let Gary Payton guard Jordan, 419 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 2: So what does it matter? First three games of the finals, 420 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 2: Jordan averaged thirty one points, five rebounds, five assists and 421 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 2: shot forty six percent from the field, and they. 422 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 3: Go up three to zero. 423 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 2: It is then that George Carl says, okay, Gary, you 424 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 2: guard Michael those last three games, he averaged twenty four points, 425 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 2: five rebounds, three assists on thirty six percent shooting. So 426 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 2: Michael Jordan, who annihilated every one in every finals he 427 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 2: ever played in, averaged twenty four points and three assists 428 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 2: on thirty six percent shooting. Once, Gary Payton was able 429 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 2: to guard him, but they were already down three to 430 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 2: up and they lost. 431 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 3: You know, the Soundings. 432 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 2: Won game four, they won game five, The Bulls win 433 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 2: game six. And if I'm George carl or Gary Payton 434 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 2: or Sean Kimpis still keeps me up at night. Jordan 435 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 2: wins another finals MVP. It's his only finals MVP where 436 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 2: the numbers are not off the charts, where the efficiency 437 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 2: is down in the low forties, and where those points 438 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 2: per game are not obscene. Twenty seven points, five rebounds, 439 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 2: four assists. But he's clear Finals MVP. He's champion again. 440 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 2: Ninety seven. Now we're in the ninety seven playoffs. Defending 441 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 2: champ has a fifty five point game on Washington in 442 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 2: game two of round one, has thirty four points, eleven rebounds, 443 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 2: six thiss, four steals in game one of round two 444 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 2: against Atlanta against. 445 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 3: Miami, and these are reverened Finals. 446 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 2: He actually struggled a little bit, shooting less than forty percent, 447 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 2: averaging less than three assists per game. But and it 448 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 2: did look like the Jazz could beat the Bulls. But 449 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 2: they couldn't because Jordan killed him. Opens the finals with 450 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 2: thirty one points, four rebounds, eight assists, and the game 451 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 2: winning buzzer beater after Karl Malone misses two free throws. 452 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 2: That's what you know created the mailman doesn't deliver on 453 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 2: Sunday's posters. Game two has thirty eight points, thirteen rebounds, 454 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 2: nine assists to go up two zero. He doesn't play 455 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 2: that well in games three and four, and they even 456 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 2: the series in Utah. And this is back when it's 457 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 2: two three to two, Game five ninety seven. 458 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 3: Does it ring a bell? Yeah it does. It's the 459 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 3: flu game. So what happened in the flu game. 460 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 2: It's not the flu game, the hangover game, whatever, the 461 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 2: bad pizza game, whatever you want to call it. Here's 462 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 2: what happened in that game. He has thirty eight points, 463 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 2: seven rebounds, five assists, including fifteen fourth quarter points in 464 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 2: a fourth quarter comeback. The Jazz as a whole had 465 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 2: sixteen in the fourth quarter. It was tied with forty 466 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 2: five seconds left. MJ misses a free throw, gets it. Yeah, 467 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 2: I know you're gonna be checked. He did miss free 468 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 2: throws occasionally, but he misses a free throw, gets his 469 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 2: own rebound, ends up hitting a three. Unbelievable, misses a three, 470 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 2: missus a free throw, ends up hitting a three, which 471 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 2: was obviously rare. 472 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 3: So now they're up three. 473 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 2: And they end up winning the game. That's how they 474 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 2: win the FLU game. Game six, another fourth quarter comeback. 475 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 2: Jordan adds thirty nine points and eleven rebounds, has ten 476 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, and then Kerr hits the game 477 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 2: winning fifteen footer off the MJ assist. MJ for the 478 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 2: series thirty two points, seven rebound, six assists, and another 479 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 2: finals MVP, And now we're to the Lives Dance nineteen 480 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 2: ninety eight averages thirty six in a round one sweep 481 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 2: of the Nets, averages thirty five and five, thirty points, 482 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 2: five rebounds, five assists. 483 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 3: In round two against Charlotte. 484 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 2: Has forty one points, four rebounds, five assists, four steals 485 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 2: to go up two all in the Pacers again in 486 00:27:55,200 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 2: these rounds finals, but Chicago loses games three, four, and six. 487 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 3: By two, two and three. The game six is the 488 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 3: famous one. 489 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 2: Reggie Miller's got the hurd ankle and then he pushes off, 490 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 2: gets the open shot, hits the three to win the game. 491 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 3: Larry Bird walks and doesn't respond. 492 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 2: Now, all of a sudden, the Bulls are facing in 493 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 2: game seven for just the second time in their championship runs, 494 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 2: for the second time and since they started winning titles, 495 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 2: and what happens? 496 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 3: Oh, pardon me? 497 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 2: In game seven he has twenty eight, nine and eight 498 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 2: and they handle the Pacers. 499 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,360 Speaker 3: So now we're to the finals. 500 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 2: Down oh one to the finals has thirty seven points, 501 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 2: including thirteen in the fourth to critically even the series. 502 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 2: Up to one in the finals, has thirty four and eight, 503 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 2: including eleven in the fourth to win the game. Now 504 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 2: they're up three to one in the finals. Game five, 505 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 2: he's okay, but late down two with the ball, Jordan 506 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 2: pulls up from three and misses. So now it's a 507 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 2: little treacherous. Now we're going back to Utah again. 508 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 3: Two three to two. Format had a chance to win 509 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 3: the title. 510 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 2: Now Utah's home court advantage, and that is what leads 511 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 2: to I believe the single finest game of his career, 512 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 2: which is the final game as a bull. Now the 513 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 2: numbers don't say it's the final game of his career. 514 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 2: It's kind of an odd box score. He had forty 515 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 2: five points, one rebound, one assists on fifteen. 516 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 3: Of thirty five shooting. 517 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 2: There were a dozen games I listed here more than that, 518 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 2: better than that. But given the context that Pittman's back 519 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 2: was shot, Rodman wasn't Rodman was hanging on by a thread. 520 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 2: They were staring at a game seven in Utah after 521 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 2: they just survived a game seven against Indiana and the 522 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 2: Bulls couldn't score. I mean, Jordan scored forty five, the 523 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 2: team didn't score ninety. The context of it and how 524 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 2: he finished it makes it the single finest game of 525 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 2: his career. 526 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 3: Game seven was gonna be in Utah. As I mentioned. 527 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 2: Another fourth quarter comeback where MJ scores sixteen in the 528 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 2: fourth quarter, including this sequence to win his sixth. 529 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 3: And final championship. 530 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 2: Down three with forty seconds left, races down the court. 531 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 2: Is a total gaff by Utah. Let him get it 532 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 2: so quick. Races down the court and gets a layup, 533 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 2: then steals the ball from alone along the baseline, then 534 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 2: the shot over Russell. For the finals, average thirty four points, 535 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 2: four rebounds to assists for the for his sixth title, 536 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 2: his six Finals MVP, and his final game as a 537 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 2: member of the Chicago Bulls. He then, actually, by the way, 538 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 2: was those two years with the Wizards average combined twenty 539 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 2: one points was not some bum of a player, but 540 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 2: never made the playoffs, so his final playoff resume. In 541 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 2: addition to the six titles and six finals MVPs, he 542 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 2: led the playoffs in points per game ten times. He 543 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 2: has the second most career playoff points, behind only Lebron. 544 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 2: He is the most career playoff points per game at 545 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 2: thirty three and a half. Only Luca is above thirty. 546 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 2: He has the fourth most career Finals points, behind only 547 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 2: Jerry West, Lebron, and Kareem. 548 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 3: He has the second most. 549 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 2: Career Finals points per game, behind only Rick Berry. He 550 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 2: has one one hundred and nine career thirty point playoff games, 551 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 2: the second most of all time, behind only Lebron. He 552 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 2: has thirty eight career forty point playoff games, the most 553 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 2: of all time. He has eight career fifty point playoff games. 554 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 2: No one else has even five. There are only forty 555 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 2: five total in NBA history. There have been eleven NBA 556 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 2: playoff games whereas someone has scored at least fifty five points. 557 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 2: Michael Jordan did it five times. Everyone else has done 558 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 2: it six. He is one of only three fifty plus 559 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 2: point finals games in the last fifty years. Lebron and 560 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 2: Giannis have the other two. And he, of course has 561 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 2: the most points ever in a playoff game. He did 562 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 2: that in You're to the sixty three points against Larry 563 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 2: Bird and the Celtics. 564 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 3: So there it is thirty minutes. I hope I did 565 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 3: it justice. 566 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 2: On the third greatest player of the last fifty years 567 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 2: in the NBA, Michael Jordan. We'll take a quick break 568 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 2: and I now listen to some callers. Tell me why 569 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 2: despite all of that, I am nothing but a Michael 570 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 2: Jordan hater. 571 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 3: I'm excited for it. 572 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 4: This episode is brought to you by Unstoppable. Discover the 573 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 4: inspiring true story about Anthony Roblass, who defined every expectation 574 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 4: to become a national wrestling champion, and Unstoppable, a new 575 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 4: original movie from Amazon, MGM Studios and director William Goldenberg, 576 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 4: evoking the excitement and camaraderie of classic sports dramas and 577 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 4: thrilling wrestling matches. 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So listen, I spent I think. 585 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 2: That was thirty minutes a giving as fair and full 586 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 2: accounting for the greatness that was Michael Jordan's career, who 587 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 2: packed about as much winning an offensive dominance as one 588 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 2: could pack into a really a twelve year prime of 589 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,479 Speaker 2: his career. He played thirteen years with the Bulls and 590 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 2: then two years with the Wizards, but it was a 591 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 2: twelve year prime that we're talking about there. 592 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 3: So that was. 593 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 2: Treating the Jordan one the way I've treated all of these, 594 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 2: which is these are tributes that it is, you know, 595 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 2: an honor to be anywhere on here. 596 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 3: I understand. 597 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 2: However, the Jordan one is going to come across differently 598 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 2: because the majority of people think he is the best 599 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 2: player ever, and no one ever stops for a moment 600 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 2: to consider should Kareem be ahead of him? Whenever there's 601 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 2: a debate about the goat, it's Jordan Lebron, Lebron, Jordan, 602 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 2: Jordan Lebron. Kareem has such a strong argument that it 603 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 2: had to be considered. And once I considered it, I 604 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,760 Speaker 2: came to the personal, my own list. My personal feeling 605 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 2: is that it's not just that Lebron has had a 606 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 2: better career than Michael Jordan, Kareem. 607 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 3: Had as well. Now we'll see who ends up being 608 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,240 Speaker 3: number one on my list. 609 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 2: I know everyone assumes they know what it's going to be, 610 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 2: but everyone assumed it was going to be Lebron one, 611 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 2: Jordan two. 612 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 3: So we'll see. I say all that to say this, Now, 613 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 3: we're gonna. 614 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 2: Have some callers that are going to attack my integrity 615 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 2: and the credibility of the list. And this is the 616 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 2: segment where if I have to fight back, I might 617 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 2: it might set well. We'll see what they say. We'll 618 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 2: see if I'm able to just stay positive about Michael 619 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 2: Jordan or I to bring some facts to what is 620 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 2: going to be an emotionally wroughten discussion. 621 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 3: Let's go to our first call. 622 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 5: Hey, Nick, what's up, man? It's Greg Olsen, your colleague 623 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 5: at Fox, And let me just tell you, living here 624 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 5: in North Carolina and having a lot of friends in Chicago, 625 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 5: you are not a very popular man right now. I 626 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 5: know you just released your top fifty NBA players in 627 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 5: the last fifty years, and the gentleman you have at 628 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 5: number three by the name of Michael Jordan. People are 629 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 5: not happy. I think you might want to I don't 630 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 5: feel great about it. I'll be honest. I'm a Jordan guy. 631 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 5: I don't know if you can have a list for 632 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 5: Jordan's not number one. But I'll tell you what. The 633 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 5: people that I know in Chicago and the folks here 634 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 5: at North Carolina who bleed tar heel blue, you are 635 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 5: not on the top of their list. So I would 636 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,760 Speaker 5: highly recommend maybe not coming through these woods for a while. 637 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 5: And I wish you the best of luck. 638 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 2: Well, listen, Greg, that is a good entry point to this. 639 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 2: Greg didn't really attack me. He just said I'm not popular, 640 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 2: you know. I'll be honest, I hadn't thought about I 641 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 2: knew people in Chicago wouldn't be wouldn't be happy with me, 642 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 2: And we're gonna hear from some people in Chicago in 643 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 2: just a moment I didn't think about have folks in 644 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 2: the great state of North Carolina. 645 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 3: I'm gonna I like the tar heels. I'm a tar 646 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:19,439 Speaker 3: heel guy. 647 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 2: That those people are gonna be mad at me about this, 648 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 2: that's a bit of a bummer, that's all I'm gonna say. 649 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 3: There. Now we'll go to Chicago. I don't even know 650 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 3: who we're going to in Chicago. 651 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 2: It's either gonna be someone who played with Michael Jordan 652 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,760 Speaker 2: or someone who idolized and covered Michael Jordan. 653 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,280 Speaker 3: Either way should be good. Let's go to the next caller. 654 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:40,280 Speaker 3: So let me get this straight. 655 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 6: Nick Wright is putting Michael Jordan third. Okay, let's let's 656 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,760 Speaker 6: talk about Kareem first, who. 657 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 3: Was maybe the. 658 00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 6: I don't know, fourth best player on his team when 659 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 6: he won his last two championships and was injured and 660 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 6: not on the court when Magic Johnson carried them to 661 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 6: a title in nineteen eighty playing center, and by the way, 662 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 6: Kareem had all sorts of migraines and problems in the 663 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 6: Boston Gardens years when they could have won the title. 664 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 6: But okay, let's put Kareem ahead of Michael Jordan and 665 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 6: then the other guy who scored eight points in a 666 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 6: finals game being guarded by JJ Brea and lost to 667 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 6: the MAVs up two games to one. 668 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 7: Who in his career, the two biggest shots that were 669 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 7: hit when he was on the court was by Ray 670 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 7: Allen after he missed a three, and Kyrie Irving with 671 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 7: him standing in the corner. Kyrie with a contested shot, 672 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 7: the biggest shot in Cleveland history. 673 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 3: But oh yeah, block was really really sweet. 674 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 7: And then there's the other guy who in his prime 675 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 7: was the best offensive and defensive player in the game. 676 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 7: Thirty seven a night, two hundred steals, one hundred blocks 677 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,479 Speaker 7: in back to back seasons, Offensive Player of the Year, 678 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 7: Defensive Player of the Year MVP. And then oh yeah, 679 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 7: let's give you one All Star and oh yeah, you'll 680 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 7: win six championships and never lose. And by the way, 681 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 7: that one All Star, he basically was worthless. 682 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 6: In ninety seven and ninety eight. But let's put Michael 683 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 6: Jordan third. This is offensive. This is ridiculous. 684 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, that's a great job by KRM. So 685 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 2: that's Mark Carmon. You can hear him on WG in 686 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,320 Speaker 2: Chicago Riemon fans sided. 687 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 3: You can also check out his diary. 688 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 2: Which has little Michael Jordan pictures and hearts written in it. 689 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 2: So let's first talk about the Kaream thing. He is 690 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 2: right that Kareem when he won his last two rings 691 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 2: was not anywhere close to the best player on that 692 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 2: Lakers scene. Now fourth best is a gross exaggeration, but 693 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 2: not anywhere close to what magic was. 694 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 3: But I'm not a counting the rings got. It is not. 695 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 2: Purely about how many rings you have, but Kareem does 696 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 2: have six. But that's not why I have Kaream in 697 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 2: the top two. What he said about nineteen eighty was 698 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 2: an absurdity, though the idea that magic was unbelievable in 699 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 2: Game six when Kareem was hurt, no one can deny that. 700 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 2: But in that series that even if they had lost 701 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 2: Game six, I believe the Lakers would have won over 702 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 2: the Sixers. Kareem averaged thirty three and fourteen on fifty 703 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 2: five percent shooting with five blocks per game. So let's 704 00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 2: not disparage Kareem, who was undefeated in high school lost 705 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 2: once in college by year two was well, we'll get 706 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,839 Speaker 2: to Kareem later in the series. Then what he said 707 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 2: about Lebron there was a lot there on the Lebron 708 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 2: thing that the two biggest shots of his career were 709 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,879 Speaker 2: hit by other people, Well, I would disagree with that. 710 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:24,839 Speaker 2: I would argue personally, the Game seven shot over in 711 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,439 Speaker 2: the Spurs series up to with the ball to ice 712 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 2: the championship, is on par with the Kyrie shot, because 713 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 2: the Kyrie shot, as critical as it was, the game 714 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 2: was tied and the Warriors were dead, the Warriors were 715 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 2: not scoring anymore. But even if it's true that there, 716 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 2: nobody's denying the Ray Allen shot of it, and if 717 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 2: we want to remove the context of the heat, were 718 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,800 Speaker 2: down huge in the fourth quarter of that Game six, 719 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 2: and Lebron brought him all the way back with an 720 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 2: all time fourth quarter performance. And then in Game six 721 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 2: or Game seven, the Kyrie game, obviously the block, obviously 722 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:02,360 Speaker 2: the back to back. 723 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,240 Speaker 3: Threes or the three and the three point play. 724 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 2: If we want to, you know, just distill it down 725 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 2: to those shots, then you've got to acknowledge that in 726 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 2: the biggest shots of Michael Jordan, the biggest shots that 727 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 2: Michael Jordan was a part of, there's the Byron Russell shot, 728 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 2: but there's also the Kerr and the Paxson shot, and 729 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,919 Speaker 2: the one All Star thing, I'm not gonna I won't 730 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 2: even engage on Scotti Gibbens, an all time player. 731 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 3: They won fifty four games near Jordan retired. 732 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 2: He had arguably the greatest coach of all time every 733 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 2: step of the way. Dennis Rodin was a Hall of Famer. 734 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 2: Tony Kuk coach is a Hall of famer. So don't 735 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,439 Speaker 2: give me the one all star thing. So like, I'm 736 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 2: not again disrespecting anything Jordan did. But the now, the 737 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:48,439 Speaker 2: point Carr made about Jordan doesn't have a moment as 738 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 2: bad as the eight point finals game against the MAVs 739 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 2: and the series as bad as that one. 740 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:54,280 Speaker 3: That is correct. 741 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,920 Speaker 2: That is absolutely correct that Jordan doesn't have a valley 742 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:02,320 Speaker 2: like that. But Jordan also does not have the body 743 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 2: of work that Kareem and Lebron have and their peaks 744 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 2: were if Jordan's. 745 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 3: Peak, if even if we even want to just. 746 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 2: Say Jordan had the highest peak, if Jordan's peak was 747 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 2: a one hundred, Lebron's peak was a ninety eight and 748 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 2: a half, and Kareem's peak was a ninety eight. But 749 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:28,840 Speaker 2: if Jordan stayed at that peak for seven years and 750 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 2: Lebron stayed there for fifteen and Kareem stayed there forever 751 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 2: long he did. That's a differentiator. And one last point, 752 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,360 Speaker 2: Michael Jordan was an amazing defender, and I don't know 753 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 2: when defensive Player of the year. There was no moment 754 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 2: Michael Jordan's the best defensive player in basketball, no more 755 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:48,320 Speaker 2: so than Lebron or Kobe other guys who were all 756 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:52,319 Speaker 2: time great players and also all time great defenders. But 757 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 2: I know Jordan won Defensive Player of the Year. He 758 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 2: wasn't a better defender that year than Dennis Rodman, and 759 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 2: he wasn't a better defensive player at any point with 760 00:42:59,520 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 2: the Bulls. 761 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 3: Then they're championship beers in Scotty Pippen. 762 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 2: Let's be serious here, Okay, now, someone who won championships 763 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 2: with Michael Jordan, Let's go to him before we move on. 764 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,279 Speaker 8: There is no sustain as the greatest of all time. 765 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,479 Speaker 8: Reason being is because there's no start and there's no ending. 766 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:21,400 Speaker 8: Every generation takes from the previous generation and they add 767 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 8: to it. You know, so you're gonna say this guy 768 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,400 Speaker 8: is the greatest. Well, those guys in the sixties didn't 769 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:34,360 Speaker 8: have the same equipment, There wasn't the same knowledge, same opportunities. 770 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,880 Speaker 3: The Arena's training. 771 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 8: Like, I just came to the conclusion that you know what, 772 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 8: there is no greatest. This generation is enamored with Michael Jordan. 773 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 8: The reason y'all enamored with him is because y'all didn't 774 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:46,879 Speaker 8: see him play. 775 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,320 Speaker 3: Michael Jordan is the standard of the modern athlete that 776 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 3: all of y'all know. 777 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 8: The fact remains is y'all don't know nothing that happened 778 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 8: before him. 779 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 3: See that's the sad part to me about these discussions. 780 00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:01,239 Speaker 8: We want to act like everything started in nineteen ninety six. 781 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 8: Truth be told, Connie Hawkins, Elgind Baylor, Doctor j those 782 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 8: people were doing the same thing. 783 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 2: So there's Bj Armstrong, who I would encourage to watch 784 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:17,240 Speaker 2: the series. Nobody gave Doctor j more love anywhere outside 785 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 2: of the greater Philadelphia area than I did right here. 786 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,359 Speaker 2: And by the way, I made a big I don't 787 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 2: know if BJ knows, but when we say Jordan's three, 788 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,320 Speaker 2: one of the people ahead of him is Kareem whose 789 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 2: careers started more than fifty years ago, was the inspiration 790 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,719 Speaker 2: for this list. So I actually think in general BJ 791 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 2: makes some fair points to the overall discussion just doesn't 792 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,240 Speaker 2: apply to me and my list, which is the perfect, 793 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,320 Speaker 2: definitive list of the fifty greatest players of the last 794 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 2: fifty years. We'll be right back to preview the top 795 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 2: two of sex all right, So there it is number three, 796 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:04,240 Speaker 2: Michael Jordan, and that leaves us Kareem and Lebron gonna 797 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,080 Speaker 2: be the two all time leading scores, or they already are. 798 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 2: The two guys are the most all NBA teams, the 799 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 2: most Top three MVP finishes, the most Top five MVP finishes, 800 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:23,760 Speaker 2: the two guys whose you can bridge almost the entirety. 801 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:24,840 Speaker 3: Of the timeline of this. 802 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:29,839 Speaker 2: List by their careers. In fact, you know what now 803 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,400 Speaker 2: I think of it our top three. It spans the 804 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:38,759 Speaker 2: entire list from Kareem to when he retired Jordan took 805 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:43,320 Speaker 2: over to when he retired for the final time with Washington, 806 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 2: Lebron took over. 807 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 3: And so. 808 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,239 Speaker 2: I sat a long time ago. Moses was the inspiration 809 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 2: for this list. Doctor j was the most gratifying portion 810 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,760 Speaker 2: of the list because I was, when I started wearing 811 00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 2: this few years ago, like truly ignorant to so much 812 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:04,719 Speaker 2: much of the ABA stuff. And obviously I've done a 813 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,799 Speaker 2: lot of the Lebron League work in real time in 814 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,440 Speaker 2: my professional career. And during the pandemic, the very beginning, 815 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 2: when there was no sports going on, we did a 816 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 2: countdown of the ten greatest playoff games of Lebron's career, 817 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 2: so I had some of the framework of that done already. 818 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 2: The green stuff is jarring, and I'm excited to get 819 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,840 Speaker 2: into it. I'm excited to lay out the case for 820 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 2: he for the case for him and the case for Lebron, 821 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 2: and I'm excited for people to see this and not 822 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 2: actually see it, just see the updated list and be 823 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:39,759 Speaker 2: livid by the way this Also, we did this contest 824 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:44,200 Speaker 2: of can you name the top twelve? I think I 825 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 2: have found one person. 826 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,720 Speaker 3: That got it right. I'm not gonna say who. 827 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,399 Speaker 2: That is, but we have one. It's not only there 828 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,759 Speaker 2: was only ever gonna be one winner. It was gonna 829 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,879 Speaker 2: be whoever got it right first, but the curve ball 830 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 2: of having Jordan three instead of two made one hundred 831 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,240 Speaker 2: and fifty people who thought they had it right until 832 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 2: this video came out realized they didn't. 833 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,239 Speaker 3: But we do have at least one winner. Well, we 834 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:12,240 Speaker 3: do have one winner. 835 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,880 Speaker 2: I think it's the person that I have sent to 836 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,920 Speaker 2: the group, but that won't be revealed for another week. 837 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,920 Speaker 2: We join us next Sunday for the second greatest player 838 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 2: of the last fifty years on What's Right with Nick Raignis. 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