WEBVTT - Best Picture Countdown to the Oscars: “Hamnet" 

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<v Speaker 1>All right, hey there, folks, it is of course Oscars weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's continue to get you caught up. It's movie number

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<v Speaker 1>six Hamnet on our list. We hope you took a

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<v Speaker 1>listen to the five movies we did yesterday. We posted

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<v Speaker 1>those on Saturday to get you caught up, and we

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<v Speaker 1>have five more for you today. And yes, the first

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<v Speaker 1>one we're doing today, which is number six overall that

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing roads, is Hamnet.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and this one has eight nominations this evening for

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<v Speaker 2>Best Picture, Best Director, Best Actress, Best Casting, Best Screenplay,

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<v Speaker 2>Best Costume Design, Best Production Design, and Best Original Score.

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<v Speaker 2>This movie was so powerful, it was so emotional. This

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<v Speaker 2>is one of the two on the list that made

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<v Speaker 2>me cry, not just a few tears, but actually booho.

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<v Speaker 1>Cry, and a lot of that boohooing. And yes has

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<v Speaker 1>to do with themes. What it has to do with

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<v Speaker 1>some of these performances will tell you. The cast here,

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse Buckley, you've been hearing a lot about her, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>and her performance in this movie. She, of course is

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<v Speaker 1>nominated for Lead Actress. Paul Meskel and then Emily Watson,

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<v Speaker 1>directed by Chloe Jao, already an Oscar winner, and this

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<v Speaker 1>one did pretty well at the box office. Ninety six

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<v Speaker 1>million people did show up to see it. Now, I

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<v Speaker 1>had seen some of the previews and it didn't look

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<v Speaker 1>like my cup of tea, and I wasn't exactly sure

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<v Speaker 1>what it was about. Somebody had to tell me what

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<v Speaker 1>it was about. Maybe people know now, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>So, and I actually did a little research on this

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<v Speaker 2>because I needed to know how much of it was true.

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<v Speaker 2>But the synopsis is this, after losing their son Hamnett

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<v Speaker 2>to the plague, Agnes and William Shakespeare grapple with grief

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<v Speaker 2>in sixteenth century England. A heater, sorry, a healer, Agnes

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<v Speaker 2>must find strength to care for her surviving children while

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<v Speaker 2>processing her devastating loss. And so I went on to say, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>how much of this is true? Because the idea in

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<v Speaker 2>the movie is that, basically William Shakespeare wrote Hamlet based

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<v Speaker 2>on the grief he felt for losing his son to

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<v Speaker 2>the plague. And his son's name was Hamnet, which apparently

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<v Speaker 2>during those times, is interchangeable with Hamlet. So basically it

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<v Speaker 2>was a play dedicated to his son, to his late son,

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<v Speaker 2>and I never knew that, so that was completely fascinating

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<v Speaker 2>to me. Now, obviously they took creative licenses, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>loosely based on what they believe.

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<v Speaker 3>To have happened. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>This one is rated PG thirteen and runs two hours

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<v Speaker 1>and five minutes. And the audience liked it more than

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<v Speaker 1>the critics, But the critics liked it an awful lie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's true. No, and I think this is this

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<v Speaker 2>reads Rotten Tomatoes. The critics eighty six percent, the audience

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<v Speaker 2>ninety two percent. I will tell you this, this is

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<v Speaker 2>a little slow in terms of its pace. And look,

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<v Speaker 2>it's only two hours and five minutes. That actually was

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<v Speaker 2>fairly short relative to the other Oscar nominated movies we watched.

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<v Speaker 2>But it moves slower because it was it was painful.

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<v Speaker 2>It was painful to watch the tragedy unfold and the

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<v Speaker 2>pain of a mother, the pain of a father, what

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<v Speaker 2>it does to a marriage, what it does to siblings. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>this isn't something you want to enter into watching in

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<v Speaker 2>already a dark mood, because this is this is a

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<v Speaker 2>tough emotional watch.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know what to expect from this movie. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's just so weighty. It's just a heavy, agonizing movie,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was it was just it was hard to

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<v Speaker 1>watch for me, and this on the list, probably of

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<v Speaker 1>all the movies, this is the one that I enjoyed

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<v Speaker 1>watching least, one of the ones I enjoyed.

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<v Speaker 3>Least as just a movie experience.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not a criticism or critique of any type

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<v Speaker 1>of movie making, but the type of movie this was

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<v Speaker 1>was just have for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, look, any time you have a movie whose central

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<v Speaker 2>theme is getting over the loss of a child like that,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't think of a heavier topic than that. Children

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<v Speaker 2>dying equals really hard movie to watch almost every time.

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<v Speaker 3>Every time.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no almost to it unless it's a horror movie,

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<v Speaker 2>and there that is the only way it could ever

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<v Speaker 2>be anything other than devastating.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I didn't like this. I'm like, wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't this is supposed to be upbeat. The kid died,

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<v Speaker 1>we just keep it moving in a horror movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah no, that is not the case in this one.

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<v Speaker 2>And I actually saw that some people actually cautioned folks

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<v Speaker 2>who have experienced that that this would be especially hard

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<v Speaker 2>to watch this particular movie because it is it's so raw.

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<v Speaker 2>I think raw would be the way I would describe it.

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<v Speaker 2>But the way it was shot, the way it was

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<v Speaker 2>acted the way it was written, it was you were

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<v Speaker 2>I was almost I had time traveled to the sixteen

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<v Speaker 2>hundreds in England, like you felt like you were there,

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<v Speaker 2>that it was so atmospheric, you just I was pulled

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<v Speaker 2>in into the emotions of the movie. I loved it.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 1>That I guess that's the beauty of the movie making.

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<v Speaker 1>It pulls you into the emotion of the movie. And

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<v Speaker 1>that was the problem with it for me. I got

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<v Speaker 1>pulled into the emotion of the movie it and that's

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<v Speaker 1>all I can say, at least about the experience of

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<v Speaker 1>watching the movie versus I mean, it's just like anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>You go to a horror movie, you get scared, right,

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<v Speaker 1>there's an emotion, there's something that pops up. Maybe that's

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<v Speaker 1>fun for you. But this is a movie that did

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<v Speaker 1>deliver on the emotion, and it was I mean almost

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<v Speaker 1>to a point. I said, oh my god, when is

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<v Speaker 1>it going to be the next agonizing scene where somebody

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<v Speaker 1>is just screaming out in agony. It happened over and

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<v Speaker 1>over and over.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a true story.

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<v Speaker 2>When we were watching it, you were looking at me

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<v Speaker 2>and you would just shake your head, like how much

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<v Speaker 2>more can one person take like you just kept looking

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<v Speaker 2>at me with these eyes, like, please make this movie stop.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm like so tortured right now, I can't take

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<v Speaker 2>one more scene like this. And so I think you

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<v Speaker 2>started laughing because it was so overwhelmingly said, look some people,

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<v Speaker 2>and I will admit I have laughed at a funeral before.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not proud of it. It's actually so embarrassing. But

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<v Speaker 2>I laughter and tears are so closely related. So in

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<v Speaker 2>defensive view, it's just it was so sad that you

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<v Speaker 2>started giggling.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't laughing at the emotion of the movie. I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't laughing at what felt like the ridiculousness of another.

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<v Speaker 1>The scenes were lying back to back to back to

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<v Speaker 1>back of similar these screeches of pain. What it was

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<v Speaker 1>agony these scenes.

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<v Speaker 2>You saw her give birth not once twice, but three

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<v Speaker 2>really times in the woods without Obviously this was a

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<v Speaker 2>time where there was no medication and there were no doctors.

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<v Speaker 2>But she's got this witchy atmosphere, and so she's an

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<v Speaker 2>herbalist and so she was doing everything with earth was going,

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<v Speaker 2>but wanted to give birth out into nature by this tree.

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<v Speaker 2>But you can't stand birth scenes let's just be honest.

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<v Speaker 2>You get so upset when anyone is giving birth in

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<v Speaker 2>a movie. You had to endure that three times in

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<v Speaker 2>this view, I can remember.

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<v Speaker 3>I put it.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I've blocked it because I don't remember that

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<v Speaker 1>they were birth scenes. Oh my goodness, gracious, it's Look,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just heavy. It's a different movie, and it is

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful piece of art that might win an Oscar

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<v Speaker 1>for Best Picture.

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<v Speaker 3>It's something to be whole.

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<v Speaker 1>It's frankly amazing what somebody I liked, even though he's

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<v Speaker 1>not nominated, Right, Paul.

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<v Speaker 3>Maskell, I don't believe I like this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He has as a just some kind of a charm

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<v Speaker 1>to him. Yes that I really enjoyed him in this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse Buckley's some phenomenon I don't quite understand yet. As

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<v Speaker 1>far as acting goes, she is she is just different.

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<v Speaker 2>She was unreal. Her performance alone was just phenomenal to watch.

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<v Speaker 3>I was in awe of her.

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<v Speaker 2>It was so natural. Again, I said raw earlier. Her

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<v Speaker 2>performance was just raw and real. And that's so hard

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<v Speaker 2>to do.

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<v Speaker 1>With all that, And you guess whether or not we'd

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<v Speaker 1>say we recommend that you watch this or skip this.

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<v Speaker 3>Stay here, that answer is next.

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<v Speaker 1>I continue here on Amy and DJ movie number six

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<v Speaker 1>as we get through them all before you watch the

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<v Speaker 1>Ceremony Tonight Hamnet two hours and five minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>Not terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>Their critics love it, the audience loved it, and you

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<v Speaker 1>loved it as well.

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<v Speaker 3>That fairness they rose.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved it. This was one that was gutting difficult

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<v Speaker 2>to watch, and I wouldn't have chosen to watch it

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<v Speaker 2>if we had not set on this journey to watch

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<v Speaker 2>all the movies. I think this one. When I saw

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<v Speaker 2>the subject matter was about the loss of a child,

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<v Speaker 2>I was intrigued to know that it inspired Hamlet, but

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<v Speaker 2>I had heard it was so gutting. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if I would have been brave enough to walk into it,

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<v Speaker 2>because I just feel like, sometimes life is so hard

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<v Speaker 2>already to invest time in watching other people's really really

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<v Speaker 2>hard lives. And I maybe that's a cop out on

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<v Speaker 2>my end, but sometimes I'm just after doing the news

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<v Speaker 2>and what we do for a living and kind of

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<v Speaker 2>live in this world of breaking news and terror and

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<v Speaker 2>basically the worst of people. Sometimes the last thing I

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<v Speaker 2>want to do is watch a movie that's also painful

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<v Speaker 2>and just talking about the lowest of lows, losing a child.

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<v Speaker 2>With all that said, I'm so glad I saw it.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a masterpiece, So I would say watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a must it's a must see. It's a it's

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<v Speaker 1>a tough record. You would never say, hey, look for

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<v Speaker 1>a good movie tonight. You got any recommendation, you would say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>Hamnett when you check out Hamnet tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>You wouldn't. It's just a different You don't watch it,

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there entertainment value in these right or is it

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<v Speaker 1>a different type of art we're supposed to appreciate versus

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily enjoying as some kind of movie experience.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I think that you, Yes, you appreciate it,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's a window into a world. It's also it

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<v Speaker 2>gives when you see other people's pain and you can

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<v Speaker 2>actually feel like you're experiencing it and seeing it. It

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<v Speaker 2>also puts your life into perspective. Sometimes I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>when I see things like this, it reminds me to

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<v Speaker 2>hug my children, It reminds me to say I love you.

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<v Speaker 2>It reminds me to be appreciative of just the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that my kids are healthy. So there are some takeaways

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<v Speaker 2>I think from this all.

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<v Speaker 1>So the recommendation as you hear the phone ring in

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<v Speaker 1>the background here if you can hear that. But yes,

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<v Speaker 1>this is one you have to see for no other reason,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, because Jesse Buckley is a sight to

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<v Speaker 1>behold in this movie. She is extraordinary. So after this,

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<v Speaker 1>up next we go into movie number seven. It'll be

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<v Speaker 1>up on the feed in just a few minutes after

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<v Speaker 1>this one, or right up next in the feed, so

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<v Speaker 1>you'll be able to catch it. The numbe number seven

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be Marty Supreme, and we have a

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<v Speaker 1>confession to make about Marty Supreme, but that one is next.

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<v Speaker 1>We always appreciate you, but we will be talking to

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<v Speaker 1>you very soon.