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Speaker 1: Hi everyone, I'm Rachel Zoe and you're listening to Climbing

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Speaker 1: in Heels for your weekly dose of glamour inspiration and

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Speaker 1: of course fun. Well, the time has finally come. So

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Speaker 1: many of you have been commenting on my Instagram or

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Speaker 1: sending dms that you're rewatching the Rachel Zoe Project too.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was finally a time to rewatch season

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Speaker 1: one myself and give you a little behind the scenes

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Speaker 1: insights on what was.

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Speaker 2: Really going down.

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Speaker 1: A few guests and visitors will be popping in to

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Speaker 1: help me break it all down. So here goes nothing. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm very excited because I have I still call her

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Speaker 1: my Marissa, but Marissa, who most of you will probably

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Speaker 1: remember from watching RZP. Marissa was my very first personal assistant,

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Speaker 1: executive assistant, I think, any assistant that was not related

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Speaker 1: to styling, and the first person to help me really

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Speaker 1: just like run my life basically. And I'm very excited

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Speaker 1: to have Marissa on because, like I always say, everything

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Speaker 1: was sort of a blur and I was obviously in

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Speaker 1: the show in the moment, and Marissa was sort of

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Speaker 1: I think, just like watching in it, part of it

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Speaker 1: behind it, and so I'm very excited to have Marissa

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Speaker 1: on here. She has gone on to do very big things.

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Speaker 1: She stayed a part of the RZ world for what

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Speaker 1: was it, Mariss?

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Speaker 2: How many years?

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Speaker 3: Almost eleven years?

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Speaker 1: Almost eleven years. And fun fact, you guys have heard

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Speaker 1: me talk about Mary Elizabeth, who is now we are

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Speaker 1: going on twelve years together, who is Marissa's sister in law.

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Speaker 1: So I like to keep it closer around here. But

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Speaker 1: Marissa's gone on to do very big things in production

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Speaker 1: and content and all the big things, and now she's

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Speaker 1: like a big cheese. But I'm very excited to have

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Speaker 1: you back, Maris and to share your insight.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Marisa, Marissa, you can definitely keep us honest and

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Speaker 3: on track. About episode two, Season one of the Rachel

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Speaker 4: It a rewatch and it was like it was like

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Speaker 4: looking through a high school yearbook.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, imagine how I feel right now? Literally, like this

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Speaker 1: is your life?

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Speaker 3: How did you feel? I asked this to Rachel before,

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Speaker 3: how did you feel when you heard the theme song? Oh?

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Speaker 4: Like I hadn't thought about it in a minute, but

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Speaker 4: like I immediately was like, oh.

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Speaker 3: I told Rachel, I like started smiling. I was like

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Speaker 3: I haven't heard the theme music in so long that

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Speaker 3: when I heard it again, I was I was giddy.

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Speaker 2: I had a so you were giddy. I was like,

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh.

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Speaker 1: My god, all of a sudden, like and I remember

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Speaker 1: not loving that song so much, and so every time

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Speaker 1: I had to rehear it, rehear it read, I was like,

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Speaker 1: can we not change this?

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Speaker 4: You didn't like the song and you didn't like the graphics, right,

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Speaker 4: And I don't think you even realized you could have

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Speaker 4: had a say in those So it was on television.

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Speaker 3: Right, It's like, I don't but I don't. I wouldn't

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Speaker 3: that wouldn't fly today.

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Speaker 1: No, And I think Maris is right, where like I

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Speaker 1: remember being like, I need to change all of this,

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Speaker 1: and they were like, it's too late.

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Speaker 4: Too late, the brand everyone knows the brand show now,

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Speaker 4: too late, But like, yeah, this this was all like

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Speaker 4: you learning about television as television was.

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Speaker 3: Happening to you. Yeah, we were happening, we were saying,

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Speaker 3: I mean, there was certainly reality TV happening in the landscape,

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Speaker 3: but it wasn't it wasn't like it is today at all,

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Speaker 3: with like full unscripted, developed programmatic TV. It was like

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Speaker 3: of gorilla and like it was happening as you were

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Speaker 3: shooting and filming and and it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: And I think people don't know that it took us

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Speaker 4: Season, especially those first couple, because we really, we really

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Speaker 4: didn't change anything about your life or anything you were

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Speaker 4: doing for the sake of the show. Right, We followed

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Speaker 3: We just shot for months, right. I was gonna say,

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Speaker 3: do you think you overshot a lot of stuff that

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Speaker 4: Probably, but like all the all the main things were

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I very clearly remember my constant sort of.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to see fight.

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Speaker 1: But I would say challenge was that life doesn't always

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Speaker 1: It was unraveling, as you said, in real time. And

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Speaker 1: I think which makes sense. Bravo needs to have a beginning,

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Speaker 2: And I think my challenge was.

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Speaker 2: Really hard for me. That was probably the hardest part

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Speaker 4: And then there are some things that happened that you know,

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Speaker 4: you can't include because they evolve, they you know, clients

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Speaker 4: or you know, there's so much more that happens that

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Speaker 4: it doesn't even make the.

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Speaker 2: Show right and and that is correct.

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Speaker 1: And I and I think, you know, I remember very

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Speaker 1: clearly people saying like, oh my god, you did this,

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Speaker 1: and we feel like we're in your life, and oh

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Speaker 1: Ray tragic, we know you because this happened on the

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Speaker 1: show and we know. And I just remember thinking to myself,

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad people feel that they were such a

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Speaker 1: big part of it, because there was so much they

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Speaker 3: Right, And it seems to me, and it seems to

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Speaker 3: right when in reality, you know, we're going to talk

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Speaker 4: And it was trying to take something that you do

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Speaker 3: Correct. See That's what I said to her. I was like,

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Speaker 2: Like, I guess right. So it was.

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Speaker 4: You know, think about it as the viewer, You're like,

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Speaker 4: that moment. So I mean, there was always those times

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Speaker 3: So we had to do that fitting yep, with a model.

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Speaker 2: Can't you know what I mean? That might be as hard.

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Speaker 4: You probably had the fitting already, the dress was picked,

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Speaker 2: You remember. She would just like, all right, where do

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Speaker 3: You know, like Joy definitely tried on gowns and depth

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Speaker 3: For Rach, was that like insane. It seems like a

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Speaker 4: As I was watching this, I kept pausing it, and

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think I think you were already moved power.

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Speaker 3: I think you're you were like Limbo, I think you're right.

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Speaker 3: I think I think you're right because I was watching

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Speaker 4: To a temporary apartment, and we had to fill your

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Speaker 2: I think that's exactly what happened.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, And then I moved to Siara Towers after that,

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Speaker 1: and that's when we continued filming in Sarah Towers.

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Speaker 3: Right, wow, Okay, so that makes so much of my

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Speaker 3: whole life, simblur. I know, thank God.

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Speaker 1: And I had a partnership with Fendy because they have

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Speaker 2: Yeah and beautiful.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you did the scene with Roger and you're like,

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Speaker 3: I hope he said something crazy, like, I hope he's

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Speaker 3: make sure Roger's tired, and then I feel like it can.

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Speaker 2: Go your way. I mean.

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Speaker 3: So, another important part about episode two, and another reason

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Speaker 3: your very dear friend Michelle Kanik has a scene with

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Speaker 3: you and the women behind Marquesa to try on a

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Speaker 1: There are pictures of me with my hair up over

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Speaker 4: Weren't always rehung and then on the because if you

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00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 4: re hung them on nice hangers, they would just slide off.

444
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:02,119
Speaker 3: Because this was right pre velvet. Right, that's so funny,

445
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 3: it's before pre velvet. Because I know that I was like,

446
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,880
Speaker 3: there's no way, there's no way on God's green earth

447
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,159
Speaker 3: you would let that slide today.

448
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 2: No, and they catch on everything. Yeah, there's terrible.

449
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 1: There's no tool, like I very distinctly remember if something

450
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 1: had tool like at the top or like beating and

451
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 1: it would go in that hook's those those little like

452
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 1: divots in the plastic hanbers, Yeah, fucking beads next to tool.

453
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 3: I was also shock stuns and amazed by how there's

454
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:39,639
Speaker 3: scenes of Brad getting shipments in for Deborah messing sag fitting.

455
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 3: So all these shipments are coming in finally because there

456
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:47,119
Speaker 3: was this the FedEx snafoo, and as the viewer he

457
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 3: gets the phone call, it's they're stuck in Tennessee. They're

458
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 3: not going to make it for the fitting or for

459
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:56,360
Speaker 3: the award show. So that's like the cliffhanger that's happening.

460
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 3: And then boxes come. The way that.

461
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 4: Box color was used to absolutely slice the box open,

462
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 4: freak me out, gave me so much anxiety.

463
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 2: They were really crazy with the box cutter.

464
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 3: Do you did you cringe when you watched it?

465
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 4: I thought that too. I was like, ooh, that box cutter,

466
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 4: like is real close to everything. I mean I remember

467
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 4: like when those dresses would come in, they it would

468
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 4: be like one gown in multiple layers of packaging.

469
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 3: Right it also right?

470
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 1: Sometimes it didn't. Sometimes they were just out and expressure.

471
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 4: PR would send it one way, designer would send it

472
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,679
Speaker 4: another way. But it should be like in a in

473
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 4: a plastic in a garment bag and then like stuffed.

474
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,160
Speaker 4: You written at it with a you know, box cutter,

475
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 4: you'd be okay, but no, that box cutter.

476
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 3: I felt that too. Marriage In some instances, I was like, oh,

477
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 3: you just slashed the gown, Like there's no way.

478
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 2: It's pretty wild.

479
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 1: I used to watch them do that, and I would

480
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 1: like jump because it was just like whenever I see

481
00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,919
Speaker 1: a blade near anything that yeah, yes, one hundred percent,

482
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. There's so many things I watch when I

483
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 1: watch this that I'm like, my insides are like like

484
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 1: so cringe because I want to talk to Marissa about

485
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 1: like I mean, depending on how open she wants to be.

486
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 2: But like, I don't feel like they were very nice

487
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 2: to you.

488
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 4: I would say in general, it wasn't.

489
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 2: Like Joey was. You and Joey were super tight.

490
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,120
Speaker 3: Joey and I were very tight.

491
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,159
Speaker 2: You guys were like brother and sister and I were BFFs.

492
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 4: Like, but it wasn't like howardly mean, it was just.

493
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 2: Like she's there, she's there doing like didn't bother.

494
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't bother. Right, Yeah that makes sense.

495
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 4: I mean we like we had parallel things we were

496
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,120
Speaker 4: dealing with, right, Yeah, they were dealing.

497
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 3: With in the studio.

498
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 4: I was dealing with like quite the opposite, right, like

499
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 4: the you know people forget when they watch reality television

500
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 4: that like it's not just the three people you're watching

501
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 4: in the room, right, people, there's so many people.

502
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 1: And my house was small. That was not a big house.

503
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 1: That was a small house.

504
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 4: So I'm behind that wall basically all where all the

505
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 4: racks are they keep shoving, Right, I'm behind that wall

506
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 4: with ten people. Yeah right, yeah, your shrunner, your sound

507
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 4: guy in the room, I'm back there with them making

508
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 4: sure they don't mess anything up.

509
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 3: In your craus. Yeah. Also that also, I know you

510
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 3: call yourself a triple virgo in this episode, and I

511
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 3: know how delicate we all are when we shoot at

512
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 3: Rachel's house. So thinking about an actual film crew, Marisa,

513
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 3: like in her living working space. I'm sure you were

514
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 3: on a twelve.

515
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 2: That was so hard.

516
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: That was so hard, Like I just the first few

517
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 1: seasons of.

518
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 2: This show were so hard, like for all.

519
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: Of it, because it was one of the first people

520
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: were figuring out how to produce it. I was trying

521
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 1: to keep it real and authentic and unscripted.

522
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 2: They needed to get with the needed no pun intended.

523
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 1: The reality of the situation was it was my real

524
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: job times twenty sure, so they were trying to get

525
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 1: what they needed. I was trying to do my actual job.

526
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 1: Roger was still working at a job like his job,

527
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 1: his career. Marissa was doing her part, trying to manage

528
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 1: the team, manage our.

529
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 2: Lives and like like.

530
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: Like Marissa said, we were all in this house and

531
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 1: it was like the studio, the team production. They were

532
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: all set up. There was trucks outside. I mean, it

533
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 1: was freaking nice.

534
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 3: They wringed your house. Yeah, and this is like, this

535
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 3: is the thing.

536
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 4: If you had known going into it what it would

537
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 4: have entailed, I would have ever done it.

538
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 3: You never would have done not.

539
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 2: In a million years, which is.

540
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 4: Probably a good thing, because you just went into a

541
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 4: blindly and it was.

542
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 2: Amazing, same as I did childbirth. Just wanked it, just

543
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 2: fully wanked it.

544
00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 1: Because had they told me how that goes percent, that

545
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: would have been like nope, not for me, yikes.

546
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,360
Speaker 4: But they they literally rigged lights in Rachel's house so

547
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 4: that when so they wouldn't have to set up lights

548
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 4: every day, right, So it's like you come in, they

549
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 4: would flip their switch to turn on the TV lights,

550
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 4: you know, in addition to the regular lights.

551
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 3: So like at some point it like was barely your

552
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 3: house anymore? It was like set, Yes, yes, you were

553
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 3: living on set. Actually, So that brings us to Floodgate,

554
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 3: they we got so.

555
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: Didn't they name the episode? So what did they call

556
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 1: the the mrs? I think they named it that, like

557
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 1: that was called Floodgate. I think it's something like that.

558
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 3: The SAG Awards. Yeah, the title.

559
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 2: I thought the title had something to do with the flood.

560
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 3: I can tell you the title, hold on, I have

561
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 3: it written somewhere. But okay, So the amount of questions

562
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 3: we got about was the flood stage or was the flood?

563
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 4: I r L.

564
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 3: It was happening in real.

565
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: Life as real as it comes. That was okay, devastating, traumatized.

566
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 3: And were you in fact not there when it started

567
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 3: or was happening?

568
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 2: No? I was not there.

569
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 4: That's why I was trying to figure out why were

570
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 4: you not at.

571
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 3: Your own house?

572
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 2: Because that's why I was like, how did the.

573
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 4: Viewer not realized they weren't your own house? But it's

574
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 4: because you weren't sleeping there.

575
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: I was not sleeping there, but I was also Yes,

576
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 1: I was not sleeping there. But I think it happened

577
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: like I think was it overnight or during the morning

578
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: when they came in.

579
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 4: When they came in, it had been leaking, so it

580
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 4: must have been like they wrapped up, we leave for

581
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 4: the night, they come in the morning and like water

582
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 4: had steeped in.

583
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,959
Speaker 3: And was it in fact a faulty door. Brad mentioned something.

584
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 3: He says, there is a faulty door.

585
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: I think it was the garage the pull down right,

586
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: and it just wasn't like as suctioned to like there

587
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: was probably like the ceiling, the ceiling the.

588
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 4: This is like another thing that I don't think people

589
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 4: realize that the studio was your garage like it was.

590
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 3: It was like a converted garage.

591
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 4: There was a room, but it still had a garage

592
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 4: door and the garage door it was a.

593
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 3: True sliding door that water came up under.

594
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 4: Okay, and it had a rubber seal at the bottom.

595
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 4: But the thing that still doesn't make sense to me

596
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 4: to this day is that like you lived on a

597
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 4: hill and the driveway goes down, so like the water

598
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 4: should have like run down like away from.

599
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 3: Me, right based on gravity. Yeah, well, you.

600
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 4: Know La, like when it rains, everything floods in weird

601
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 4: places and like, but.

602
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 2: At that point we didn't have rain.

603
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: Like that was like a weird that was before like

604
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: the last few years where La became a rainy place.

605
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: So I think no houses were prepared for that.

606
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 2: You know.

607
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was such a fluke. It was terrible, but yeah,

608
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 3: that's what it was. It was like the area by

609
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 3: that door. So Marisa, do you get a call from

610
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 3: production that's like there's actually a flood, we want to

611
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 3: go cameras up or is it like you were supposed

612
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 3: to be shooting that day anyway? Do you remember it all?

613
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 4: We were definitely supposed to be shooting anyway, And like

614
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 4: I me and like Taylor and Brad would have been

615
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 4: the first people in the in the house to open up.

616
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 3: We probably showed up. We probably showed up to let

617
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 3: production and to shoot for the day.

618
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't remember this, but this is what

619
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 4: I would imagine, right, showed up them in for the day,

620
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 4: and as they're all coming in, they find out that

621
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 4: they see the flood, and the smart Bravo team was

622
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 4: probably like get it. Yeah, throw cameras, start rolling now, yeah,

623
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 4: start rolling because it was It wasn't like later seasons

624
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 4: where like we knew when we were going to start,

625
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 4: knew we were going to shoot.

626
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 3: It was like they just shot what was happening.

627
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: Actual season one, we just went rogue most of the season.

628
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: It was just crazy. But I think too, I remember

629
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: very clearly that morning I had all these appointments like

630
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: to pull and I went on jewelry appointments. And that's why, like,

631
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: I see it all you where are you guys? If

632
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: I was calling to tell them to.

633
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 3: If it's true to the show, you were out, you

634
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 3: were you were pulling jewelry.

635
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 4: Pullets, yeah, which is which is probably true.

636
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 3: Right. There's another scene where everyone is scrambling to wring

637
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 3: the water out of these gowns that have been pulled

638
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 3: for SAG Awards, and they're hanging up in a bat

639
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 3: in a guest bathroom. They're dripping into a bathtub there

640
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 3: you can see die coming off of my gowns.

641
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: I remember that when there was this like guys like

642
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: wine colored one and all the.

643
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 3: Die was trickling. How many gowns were actually ruined? Do

644
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 3: you remember?

645
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 2: There was? There was quite a lot that were ruined.

646
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: There really was, and we had to call like the

647
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: designers and tell them. And I remember, like I remember

648
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: when the episode aired, how many designers like emailed like

649
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: it was our stuff, damn it, you know, like why

650
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: didn't you tell us? And like people were pissed because

651
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: and that was one of those things where it was

652
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: like that was in real life absolutely terrifying. Yeah thing,

653
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: but like in reality, like you have no control over that,

654
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: and so I think they could be mad. But it

655
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: was like, you know, I'm so sorry, but there was

656
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: serious water damage on quite a few there was sure that.

657
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 3: Really really really sucks.

658
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 2: That really really I.

659
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: Looked at that just now and I was like, you know,

660
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: I haven't watched this since it aired, and I'm just

661
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: like I.

662
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 2: Was like, I literally couldn't.

663
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 3: I also said, the way the camera captures the whole

664
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:46,719
Speaker 3: like telling like Rachel gets home, the way they shoot

665
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 3: her getting this information is so I was like you

666
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 3: are so chill about it. Not that her reaction was chill,

667
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 3: but like, compared to the woman I know now sitting

668
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 3: right here, I would have to be like, oh, we

669
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 3: need to pull Rachel off the ceiling because she has

670
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 3: a blow dryer and has blow drying dresses and might

671
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 3: get electrocuted because she's also standing in a puddle. That's

672
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 3: how like crazy you would go.

673
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: Because I think, like now when I think about it,

674
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: like if this happened now with my archives, they're so valuable,

675
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: like and irreplaceable. And I think at the time, like

676
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: it was a little bit of this, like I want

677
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: to flip the fuck out and I'm freaking out, but

678
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:33,959
Speaker 1: like I literally can't do anything about this, Like it rained,

679
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: there's a flood. I'm losing my mind, But like.

680
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, what are you gonna do?

681
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 4: You know?

682
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's probably shocked too.

683
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 4: I mean the things you were feeling with that week,

684
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 4: it was like an award show week. You have this

685
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 4: crew in your house, Like you can't put that aside either, Like, no,

686
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 4: there's so much chaos happening. You get into that like

687
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 4: I need to fix it mode.

688
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that was very much my sort

689
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 2: of overall.

690
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: Way that I existed as a stylist was like, this

691
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: is a nightmare. I have to problem solve. I have

692
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: to problem solve. What is the solution? What is the solution?

693
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: What is the solution? And I think as I came

694
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: up in business and everything, I would look at my

695
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: team and people that kind of didn't stay around in

696
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: the RZ world were people that couldn't It was like

697
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,760
Speaker 1: the five alarmed fire people that didn't try to solve

698
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: a problem before they presented the problem, you know. And

699
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: I think that was one of the things I tried

700
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Speaker 1: to I think teach Brad in that moment when I'm

701
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: looking at it, it's sort of like.

702
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 2: These things happen.

703
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: I can't fire you because there was a flood, but

704
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: I can fire you for how to deal with that situation.

705
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: And you can't just walk away, you know what I mean?

706
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 4: You can. Yeah, that's something that's something I learned from you, Rachel,

707
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 4: Like I and Roger also would tell me this, like

708
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 4: if there's a problem, come to me with three solutions

709
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 4: to the problem.

710
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, before you come to me.

711
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 2: With a problem one percent.

712
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 4: And I learned that very young working with you guys,

713
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 4: and I do that today. I teach you know, people

714
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 4: on my team. Of course, if there's a problem, try

715
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 4: and solve it first, sure, then compel.

716
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Speaker 2: One hundred percent.

717
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I think if you if you have people

718
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: that work with you, and especially young people that are

719
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: just starting, I think their immediate reaction because it's like

720
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: when you're a kid.

721
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Speaker 2: Mom help, right, like Dad, help fix this? And I

722
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 2: think when you're working, you have to.

723
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: Be like, Okay, this is a catastrophe. Yeah, how do

724
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: I try and resolve it? And if I can't, let

725
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 1: me bring the problem and these are the ways I

726
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: think we can solve it. So I'm going to present

727
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 1: to you how I think we can solve it or

728
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: try and solve it.

729
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 3: I know I want to make merch that says we're

730
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 3: solution oriented it Rachel Zoe, I've always wanted to have

731
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 3: a solution.

732
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 2: There's always problem, because.

733
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 3: There's always problems. But guys, you know what the great

734
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,919
Speaker 3: part about episode two is the FedEx does arrive on time,

735
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 3: and magically, Deborah Messing ends up in the beautiful, beautiful,

736
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 3: beautiful Oscar dellar To dress that you loved ye the most. Yep,

737
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 3: that dress is still, by the way, so stunning.

738
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: Do you want to hear something really funny about Oscar Delarenta.

739
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:13,240
Speaker 1: So I am now since Oscar Delarenta himself has passed,

740
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: and Fernando who is the creative director along with Laura

741
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: Kim of Oscar Dilarenta, they still they still have a

742
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: collection that has to be sold, right, and so when

743
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: I borrow things and I wear so much Oscar Delaurenta,

744
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: and I will still get from their team. Okay, we're

745
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: going to overnight this for Friday because it has to

746
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: be an appointments for Bergdorf Goodman on Thursday.

747
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 2: And I literally relive the moments on the show.

748
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: Because literally it'll come the day of an event or

749
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Speaker 1: the day befo an event, and it's like, you have

750
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Speaker 1: to sell the dresses.

751
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 2: That's the most important thing.

752
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: Now having been on the other side, selling is actually

753
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: the most important thing. So it's kind of funny, and

754
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: I think Devora Messing. I recently saw that dress, the

755
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: almost identical dress and first dives.

756
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 2: It's so beautiful and I was like, God, should I

757
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 2: buy this?

758
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 4: It really stands a test of time. I was still like,

759
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 4: that's a sick look. I could be on a carpet today.

760
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 3: I mean because it's modern but like timeless in a

761
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 3: weird way. She looked like a Greek like goddess.

762
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and her hair was giving it such a good.

763
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 3: Like yeah, really like cool, effortless vibe.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: I also want to note that Marissa not only started

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Speaker 1: in the very beginning as my PA on the show,

767
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: but in the end, by season I think four and

768
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: five was like co producing the show with us and

769
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Speaker 1: sitting behind the camera and really just so like managing

770
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: and directing. I was like, we need to cut down

771
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: on shoot days, and then we got to do it

772
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 1: in a few months in the last season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we got.

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Speaker 4: Really efficient at the end. But then it's you know,

775
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 4: it gets really complicated because your business got even more

776
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 4: complicated in a great way where your business was expanding,

777
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 4: and it was like, you know, trying to protect now

778
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 4: not only your clients and the styling part of your business,

779
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 4: but like you have upcoming product launches that you can't

780
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 4: release too much information on work comes out.

781
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: And it just becomes this giant true it's true, and

782
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: I think that's ultimately what it is. Because everybody wants

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00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: the show back, and I'm like, god, how what is

784
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: our ZP two point Oh, I don't know. Maybe our

785
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: maybe our listeners can help us contribute to what maybe

786
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: two point zero would be.

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00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe it's Skyler like live laugh loving in La. No,

788
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 3: I'm just kidding. He would love that. You would hate that.

789
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: Marissa would have to produce it with Mary Elizabeth.

790
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 2: Oh god, God, that would be Skyler.

791
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 3: I've been my boss once. That's enough.

792
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 2: But that would be too much fun.

793
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 1: Honestly, to have Marissa and Mary do this, that would

794
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: be actually too much fun.

795
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Speaker 3: It would be a blast.

796
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 2: We might not get any work done.

797
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 3: I know what TV show would what would the final

798
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 3: product be? We don't sure. Eminem Okay, I want to

799
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 3: leave everybody with a little takeaway because you talk about

800
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 3: this when you're pulling a look for Deborah and it's

801
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 3: is it still hard for redheads to wear red dresses?

802
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 3: How do you feel about it now?

803
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: I think it depends because I think we've now seen

804
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 1: like Jessica Chastain have major red moments. We've seen Julianne

805
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: Moore have a major red moment or two. I think

806
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: it's challenging because it really, to be honest, I think

807
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: it's more a personal choice. I think for red heads,

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00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: I think it's more in their minds. I can't wear red,

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00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: you know. It's sort of like how I don't like

810
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 1: to wear gray, right, and then when I wear a gray,

811
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: everyone will be like, that looks great on you.

812
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, it doesn't. No, it doesn't, you know,

813
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 2: so I think it. I think it depends.

814
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: So the answer is, nothing's impossible, and I think it's

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00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: the right shade of red has a lot more to

816
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: do with skin chir because certain colors turn your skin

817
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: a certain color, you know, like a chartreuse. Everyone's so

818
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: afraid of it, but it can look epically amazing on

819
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: certain skin tones. You fascinating, fascinating, groundbreaking, laurl for Spring.

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Speaker 3: You know, groundbreaking, Marissa, was there anything about season one

821
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Speaker 3: that really stands out in your mind? Any like good

822
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 3: or bad?

823
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 2: Or my crush on Jeremiah? The Pa?

824
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the pa.

825
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 4: We always had to have one at least one hot

826
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 4: pa for Rachel.

827
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: And by the way, like I would be so tired

828
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: and like have come off like a crazy work binger,

829
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: and like work binger, like the opposite of a drug vinger. Yeah,

830
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: and I would I would come in, I'd be like

831
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: I can't do it, and they'd be like.

832
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 2: Oh, Jeremiah, yeah, Mike. He was so cute.

833
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 3: I was literally talking about Mike's I said to Rachel, Mike,

834
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 3: I'm shocked. I don't see a mic or Mike pack

835
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 3: on you anywhere. I haven't seen it yet. And she's

836
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 3: so hard to mic with the kind of clothes she wears.

837
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Speaker 2: Audio hated me so much.

838
00:40:55,960 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, because she's always jewelry, clanking, my earring, a.

839
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: My necklaces, which just pounds any fabric I wore, like,

840
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: forget Chanelle jackets that like the.

841
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 2: When the sequence, the Silk File, which just goes.

842
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 3: Just a nightmare.

843
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 4: I think I think the thing about season one that

844
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 4: I noticed the most in going back and watching it

845
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 4: is just really how authentic it was right that that

846
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 4: was how it was, that was how it was at.

847
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 3: The studio every day.

848
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 2: I agree, that's exactly how it was. Also how poorly

849
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 2: lit we were.

850
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, can I please? They just ran around and followed us.

851
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: I remember well, and I do remember that, and I,

852
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 1: like I said, I think the most important thing for

853
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: me in this show in general was just keeping it

854
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: as real as humanly possible. And I think in hindsight

855
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: that really served the show and I think like if

856
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: they didn't get their buttons and they didn't get their

857
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: story arcs, I mean, I think it worked out, but

858
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: like I just I think that was the sort of

859
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: I think you're right, And when I look at it,

860
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is exactly how it happened, truthfully, like

861
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: aside from the dumb little things that you had to

862
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 1: do to make it make sense for television or whatever,

863
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: but it really was what was happening.

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00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 3: You guys are going to laugh. Do you want to

865
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:23,439
Speaker 3: know the official episode title? It's not Floodgate. Oh, it's

866
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 3: Award season. That's bananas.

867
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 2: That's bananas.

868
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 3: The Award season, that's bananas.

869
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 2: That's bananas.

870
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 3: Marissa, you are dream to have on because you can

871
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 3: tell us all the things Rachel forgets, and we will

872
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 3: bring you back, Mariss because as I said, it is

873
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 3: all a blur to me.

874
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 2: I love you, Marissa for life.

875
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 3: Love you, Thank you for having me.

876
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 2: This was fun.

877
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 3: Thank you, Marissa.

878
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: If you want more Climbing in Haels content, follow me

879
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Speaker 1: on at Rachel Zoe and at Climbing in Hales pod

880
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: on Instagram for more updates on upcoming guests, episodes, and

881
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,280
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