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<v Speaker 1>This is cut to It with Steve Smith Senior at

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<v Speaker 1>production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Smith Senior and I'm Drew a Little John and

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<v Speaker 1>this is cut to It. Good do It, Good do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's getting down to do it. Good do it. We

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<v Speaker 1>asked the questions you always want to know, but no

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<v Speaker 1>one ever asked, let's cut to it. You ain't heard

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<v Speaker 1>them about it, then we're about to let you know

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<v Speaker 1>it's all all right. Well, want to welcome everyone to

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<v Speaker 1>the first ever live podcast of the Cut to It Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Drew a Little John w the co host. We've

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<v Speaker 1>got backstage Joe, and of course we've got Steve. That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just Steve. Just Steve, just some dude named Steve.

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<v Speaker 1>You're run up, all Steve. Now you have a bad day,

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<v Speaker 1>but just just piece five piece, some kind of pieces

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<v Speaker 1>that the whole chicken can't see. Whatever, whatever, however, however

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<v Speaker 1>and wherever you want, finger looking good. So of course

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<v Speaker 1>we want to welcome everybody. Uh, this is the one

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<v Speaker 1>is the first time we've ever done this, and too

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<v Speaker 1>we definitely want the first time we've ever done a podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the first time we've done a live podcasts like

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<v Speaker 1>I Feel out on my natural Habitat. Typically we're in

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<v Speaker 1>a studio, we're recording. Um, we've never had a studio audience.

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<v Speaker 1>We've never like this is like we're on an episode

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<v Speaker 1>of Family Matters or something that's first sitcom. The kind

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<v Speaker 1>of show is that I've never seen that. Well, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a black show back in the day. It was

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<v Speaker 1>so we've got to go there, man, ever, but you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know it, would you ever? Rather me said like

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<v Speaker 1>step by step, who's the boss? Growing pains? So I

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<v Speaker 1>watched a little bit to dancing, like I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>who that is? Wonder Years Fred Savage, Oh, why you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta bring up race because they saw one of the

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<v Speaker 1>years it was black folks. I was like, they're remaking it. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we're talking about. Is your year. Look, you

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<v Speaker 1>got an audience gone there, like, stay away from this one.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to thank all the sponsors, Domas Direct, want

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<v Speaker 1>to thank Pinnacle Bank, Tito's uh j F. She enterprises, um,

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<v Speaker 1>but before we get there's other agent NATed some the

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<v Speaker 1>v I p's the v I P event. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>think everybody, but thank you Agano. That's all right, we

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<v Speaker 1>got how we got visual evidence. Now they can see

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<v Speaker 1>what you're's the police officer in here and I can

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<v Speaker 1>tell that. So cameras is hired by me, and all

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<v Speaker 1>these cameras are hired out of me. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>they say, Man, the Richard always can wipe it away.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's a healthy dose of elite. Is so about

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<v Speaker 1>wonder years before we get started? Why are we here today?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course the Steve Smith Family Foundation TA for Health event.

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<v Speaker 1>But tell the folks a little bit we always start

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<v Speaker 1>with whenever we're doing this Q and A. Tell the

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<v Speaker 1>folks a little bit about your your foundation, where it

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<v Speaker 1>originated from, your your your passion for philanthropy, and just

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<v Speaker 1>just speak a little bit to that. Well, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>as as an executive director, Gerard little John. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we started um in the basements. We started in the

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<v Speaker 1>home office, and they started way before you even met me.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're just saying in the home offices, UM, just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out, you know, how we can make

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<v Speaker 1>an impact in the community in Charlotte. And so it

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of has started a little bit a little

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<v Speaker 1>by little and expanded, uh to the place of who

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<v Speaker 1>now it's uh, we are UM. Just making an impact

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<v Speaker 1>in Charlotte, whether it's after school program, after school and

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<v Speaker 1>Richmond program, Uh, doing the t F health for the clinic,

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<v Speaker 1>uh and now soon to be a behavioral health urgent care.

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<v Speaker 1>So uh, just doing all those things here in Charlotte,

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<v Speaker 1>giving back to a community that's given so much for

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<v Speaker 1>me during my football season, uh, during my football days,

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<v Speaker 1>and so now as in retirement, trying to make impact

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<v Speaker 1>that UM is lasting for the community, but also something

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<v Speaker 1>that my family can be proud of as well. As

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<v Speaker 1>you speak a family, where did it originate from? So

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<v Speaker 1>everyone may or may not be familiar with your story

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<v Speaker 1>or your upbringing, like how what what maybe happened in

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<v Speaker 1>your life too, maybe spark your desire to give back

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<v Speaker 1>the way that you do. Uh, yeah, I guess it's sparked.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, utilizing and understanding where I grew up,

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<v Speaker 1>in how I grew up and understanding that, and so

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<v Speaker 1>with understanding that, that means a lot of the programs

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<v Speaker 1>we do are based off of what I've experienced. So uh.

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<v Speaker 1>In the behavioral health they call that right now, they

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<v Speaker 1>call that indigent, which is the uninsured u UM. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was uninsured and so I understand that UM SEX

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<v Speaker 1>and eight government assistance. I experienced all that, so understanding

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<v Speaker 1>that are really building our programs around the need of

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<v Speaker 1>what UM I experienced, what you've experienced as well. And

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<v Speaker 1>so with that being said, UM, we we already know

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<v Speaker 1>the system. We know what the system presents. The system

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<v Speaker 1>was originally presented Section eight Government systems was presented UH

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<v Speaker 1>to a community to help to extend a helping hand

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<v Speaker 1>to lift them up. It was not intended for people

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<v Speaker 1>to be on government assistance for it their whole life. However, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>there are some people believe that those types of folks

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to be off government assystems. They don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be UM whatever it that, whatever your perspective of

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<v Speaker 1>that is. But the matter, the facts are government assists

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<v Speaker 1>sense was there for temporary help. But now that it

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<v Speaker 1>is considered permanent health. No one's really asking why is

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<v Speaker 1>it considered permanent health. It's because there's such a huge

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<v Speaker 1>gap and there's such a huge need and there aren't

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<v Speaker 1>really their lack of resources. There aren't resources there, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>there are is that there is a gap in certain communities,

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<v Speaker 1>in certain school systems. That there's a reason why you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people only feel that, and it's not about racist people

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<v Speaker 1>feel like, well, I'm only gonna be a guy or

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<v Speaker 1>a girl that can have an hourly wage job because

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes that's all they see or that's how they're taught,

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<v Speaker 1>or they have so many deficits education wise, they they

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel like they can get out of the hole.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I think with all that being said, is

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<v Speaker 1>we try to do like our enrichment program, we try

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<v Speaker 1>to help academically but also socially um emotionally, helping those

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<v Speaker 1>people understand and figure out why they're there. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you grow up and experience something that's traumatic, you just

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<v Speaker 1>become an adult that experienced something traumatic with with complex

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<v Speaker 1>trauma and it has never been addressed. So you grow

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<v Speaker 1>up being a hint football player that experience not my dad,

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<v Speaker 1>watching my mom get beat up and yelled and and

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<v Speaker 1>talked down to by her husband thirteen years old. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know how to address that, didn't know who to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to, get up in the morning and go to school.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not telling that to my friends. I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>through that. So didn't know how to handle that, didn't

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<v Speaker 1>figure it out, didn't understand how to get through the

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<v Speaker 1>muck and mire the messiness of that and so um.

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<v Speaker 1>And that happened a few times to the point of

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<v Speaker 1>where I just held it in and it impacted me

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<v Speaker 1>into the in the world. Now I'm an adult, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and and I just see it, and it it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to get out of my mind. It's hard to at

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<v Speaker 1>times when I'm you know, on I closed my eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>I can almost replay it as if it was yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>But the blessing is I have you know, I have

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<v Speaker 1>the resources to give get counseling, got that shorted out.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are times where I still sometimes close my

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<v Speaker 1>eyes and I just I wake up because I can

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<v Speaker 1>still see it. It's never it's never an end all right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's a constant It's a constant journey because I

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<v Speaker 1>can't even speak to as well you you you referenced

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. But even my upbring, right, there's there's trauma.

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<v Speaker 1>There is things that you see that maybe your parents

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<v Speaker 1>went through. There's things that you see that maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>witness to. To your point, You've got poverty, You've got um,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got different neighborhoods, you've got violence, You've got all

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<v Speaker 1>these different things that a lot of kids probably shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be exposed to some of the stuff that you are,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is then you're in the adult and you're

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<v Speaker 1>now left carrying the bags of whether it's the things

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<v Speaker 1>that you've seen, or whether it's the stuff that you've

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<v Speaker 1>seen happen to your parents or within your family, and

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<v Speaker 1>you bring that with you as an adult into your

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<v Speaker 1>marriage and to your job, into your career, into your sports,

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<v Speaker 1>like whatever it is that you do, you take that

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<v Speaker 1>with you. And so it is very, very very tough

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<v Speaker 1>to navigate and and I think it's really been good

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<v Speaker 1>because even for the three of us, um, we're not

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<v Speaker 1>just hosts on the podcast, like we're really friends and

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<v Speaker 1>so we have these conversations. We have a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>common threads, whether it's parents en upbringings that we all

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<v Speaker 1>um are lucky enough that we have someone to talk to.

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<v Speaker 1>But now with Steve talking about with the foundation, we're

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<v Speaker 1>able to provide those resources to other people in the

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<v Speaker 1>community who may not have the When we're out and

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<v Speaker 1>about in in the community, like we said, we hang

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<v Speaker 1>out a lot, and you know, people always come up

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<v Speaker 1>to us and they're like, Oh, I'm glad to see

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<v Speaker 1>your back, Steve. It's kind of funny because he's always

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<v Speaker 1>been here. What a lot of folks are knowing this

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<v Speaker 1>community is all the good work than his foundation, his

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<v Speaker 1>family has done that. I'm lucky. I've been lucky to

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<v Speaker 1>be a part of and so is Gerard. And Steve

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<v Speaker 1>kind of said it in his normal under the radar.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't want to bring attention to himself because that's truly

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<v Speaker 1>who he is. But what the Steve Smith Family Foundation

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<v Speaker 1>has done for years, We've served youth, We've served under privilege. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>we have the luxury upcoming, and you're gonna hear more

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<v Speaker 1>and more about this over the next couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>And he kind of said it real fast. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>b huck, which don't google it, I'll tell you. It's

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<v Speaker 1>called the Behavioral Behavioral Health Urgent Care. Today in Charlotte,

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<v Speaker 1>North Carolina, if someone wigs out, goes crazy, needs some assistance,

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<v Speaker 1>they got two choices. They go to jail, but they

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<v Speaker 1>have to travel him to Raleigh because that's the closest

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<v Speaker 1>facility to be able to take care of somebody. So

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<v Speaker 1>the county because of what Steve's done, Um, they've come

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<v Speaker 1>to our foundation and we've been busting our you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what's for the past four or five six months, we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know acronyms. We didn't know anything. We were sitting

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<v Speaker 1>in these meetings early on, like so in our head

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<v Speaker 1>and then like I said, laughingly, we would have to

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<v Speaker 1>google something. What we're doing is we're providing a twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four seven three sixty five mental health facility to take

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<v Speaker 1>care of folks that are in need. And we all

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<v Speaker 1>know somebody. I see everybody looking up here right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody's going in their mind, it's a friend, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>family member, it's that guy in the street corner. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're actually building a facility here in Charlotte, North Carolina

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<v Speaker 1>to take care of these folks, to give them an

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to grow, to get out of the systemic stuff

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<v Speaker 1>they've been through their whole entire life. So, um, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what Steve Smith Family Foundation is all about. We've always

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<v Speaker 1>known it's been about that. Um, we're gonna be on

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<v Speaker 1>a larger stage now. So I want to thank everybody

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<v Speaker 1>for being here and helping us out. So we really

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate that. That's what your dollars and what you're volunteer

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<v Speaker 1>shift and everything else is going towards. So like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>hats off to you for getting us involved in this stuff. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's been a long process. There's been a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of names, but faceless folks that have contribute a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of their time away from there for family, uh, traveling

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<v Speaker 1>to make this happen. And so it's it's it's been

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<v Speaker 1>a long process. It's been encouraging, it's been frustrating, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's also um, now we're at the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>negotiation process and now we start with the fund stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's been cool. I love cut to It and

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<v Speaker 1>where you can buy merch and you can subscribe to

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<v Speaker 1>us wherever you listen to podcasts. I got all my

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<v Speaker 1>answers questions. Um, yeah, I got all my questions answered.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm here for, a brother. Cut to a

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<v Speaker 1>Podcast dot Com. We got uh, we got a short

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<v Speaker 1>round and uh and' stillart here so we're gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>into like a live podcast and uh so short round

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<v Speaker 1>is Mactober and Johnson Stewart good friends of mine. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>come on up, and so we're just gonna do a

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<v Speaker 1>little podcast. Appreciate it, welcome to cut to it is

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<v Speaker 1>that is that the intro you wanted from from smithy Man,

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<v Speaker 1>So I definitely want to welcome in Jonathan Stewart and

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<v Speaker 1>October Jonathan native of Washington, attended Oregon University ten season

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<v Speaker 1>with Carolina Panthers one with the New York Giants. He's

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<v Speaker 1>the Panthers franchise leader in career, Russian attempts and Russian yards.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course we got Mike Tobert, a native of Carrollton, Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>There were from what part of Georgiana from I was

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<v Speaker 1>born in Carrolton. We get into that, were getting that,

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<v Speaker 1>we were getting that, We get that we're getting because

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<v Speaker 1>that sound right. I don't know. I know now that

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<v Speaker 1>tring Wikipedia? What's wrong with I don't control with Wikipedia?

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<v Speaker 1>You can end it. Karon has like three stoplights. So

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonnadom embarrassed by that? I don't know, just not

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<v Speaker 1>So where are you from? Huh? We got like seven stoplights.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't just respect and I know how to be when

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<v Speaker 1>they tried to dition next, right, you don't from lex

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever heard don't do it? Yeah? Have you

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<v Speaker 1>ever heard of lexa to being lex Vegas? Why you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta smart like this? Like you like you from something

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<v Speaker 1>like we finally got a light like like I thought

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<v Speaker 1>you're from the West coast, but it ain't like you

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<v Speaker 1>exactly from like you know, I'm from Olympia and Olympia,

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<v Speaker 1>Washing is the capital. You tried to put me in

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<v Speaker 1>my p boring Fort Lewis, Washington, which is a military base.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's once again it's known. Uh, I'm a rock

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<v Speaker 1>with there's five people up here and folk didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>it a man. Well, now you're looking at you rock

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<v Speaker 1>though a uh where are you from the place you

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<v Speaker 1>call your hometown from Douglasville, Georgia, Oh, about fifteen minutes

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<v Speaker 1>west of the wet As you asked, I'm gonna where

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<v Speaker 1>you're fine? And all right? Okay, so you know you

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<v Speaker 1>want you want to you wanna do to get ice up?

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<v Speaker 1>When get up? It's part of our podcast where we

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<v Speaker 1>just asked random Iceberger questions like I don't know he

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<v Speaker 1>just brought up the sheet. We haven't talked about this.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have no pre production meet, none of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, he gets yeah, so let him so just

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<v Speaker 1>one we got this question, all the questions whose podcast

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<v Speaker 1>is I'm just I'm ansking questions the stage all right,

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<v Speaker 1>um you guys, and you can answer if you choose to.

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<v Speaker 1>If you can buy any type of food, what would

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<v Speaker 1>you buy any type of food? Look at me, shround

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<v Speaker 1>for a reason. I'm doing gonna buy anything though you're eating.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing you don't know about Toba is he's not

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<v Speaker 1>a sweets guy. Really, yeah you sweets my my, my

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<v Speaker 1>meat come from meat and potato, not one like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You're out of here. That's one all right, no more,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're friends. We're not going to add that out, Brian.

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<v Speaker 1>But don't do that again. Oh if I go on

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<v Speaker 1>your web browser, your history, what I find stut today,

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<v Speaker 1>you would find uh top golf trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>the fastest impossible. That because stew he's also he he

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<v Speaker 1>is lightweight, lazy sometimes. Hey man, that was the answers

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<v Speaker 1>right there, because one time I got to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't tell him early because he will forget and

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<v Speaker 1>he will take a nap before you're supposed to ask

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<v Speaker 1>you and then oversleep. Yeah, nowadays I don't really get

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<v Speaker 1>to take that million naps, you know, So things have

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<v Speaker 1>changed a little bit more responsible. So what how would

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<v Speaker 1>you characterize your just football career? Football career? Um trials,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just injuries, um, but just stay in the course,

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<v Speaker 1>um and making it last. What can I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to jump in real quick? Why would you characterize those

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<v Speaker 1>two things? First? Like, even just in your you the

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<v Speaker 1>franchise leader in Russian attempts rushing yards, you went straight

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<v Speaker 1>to injuries. Yeah, because I mean I think at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day, that's one of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>knock you out. And that's what I'm you know, grateful

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<v Speaker 1>for and blessed you know too. I mean Smitty, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>introduced me to his guy that prolonged, that made my

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<v Speaker 1>career last longer than what it should have, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. So when I think dr that, but

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<v Speaker 1>when I think about football now, I'm just I just think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just the bratefulness to be able to walk

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<v Speaker 1>away from the game. But also looking back, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I played eleven seasons. Um, you know, I'm just just grateful,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, more than anything. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>the first thing that comes to mind, is the things

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<v Speaker 1>that I've come over that you know, the adversity. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you look at a person's career, you're more satisfied

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<v Speaker 1>with the bounce back stories, You're more satisfied with what

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<v Speaker 1>that person had and dur You're more satisfied with all

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<v Speaker 1>those things because that's how you can connect um. And

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Smithy is good at stories for days for

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<v Speaker 1>adversity of how he's bounced back. Told 's got stories

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<v Speaker 1>for days for how he's bounced back. And I've been

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<v Speaker 1>able to watch these guys along their side, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>through the you know, parts of the career. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>what's inspirational, you know what I'm saying within the locker room.

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<v Speaker 1>But so that's why. So so what when you have

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<v Speaker 1>bounced backs and you have injuries, what is that internal

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<v Speaker 1>motivation that makes you come back from that? Like what

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<v Speaker 1>your drive to come back from that? That's a great question.

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<v Speaker 1>We should have you one more one. I mean, ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>it's you know, for me, it's your why, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>I believe your why changes, you know, through different seasons

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<v Speaker 1>of life and but the ultimate y stands tall and

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<v Speaker 1>first at the end of the day, which is my

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<v Speaker 1>why is I have a plat from given by God

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<v Speaker 1>to do something bigger than myself. So once you get

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<v Speaker 1>out of your own way, that's when you can go

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<v Speaker 1>through those things with the right attitude, with the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with the mindset of I need help. I need people

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<v Speaker 1>like my teammates or family members or coaching, um, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it is to get you to that next phase. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean, you know there's there's right you know,

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<v Speaker 1>towards the end of my career, you know, I got

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<v Speaker 1>married and had my first baby girl, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>that became my why. Um. And we have another baby girl,

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<v Speaker 1>uh Nora, she's eight months. She's part of that why

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<v Speaker 1>Now nothing else matters. So told, but what about she?

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<v Speaker 1>Which what's those internal motivators for you? Um? Just always

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<v Speaker 1>been on adult you know, I was always short and

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<v Speaker 1>fat and not considered the biggest or the strongest or

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<v Speaker 1>the fastest. So I like to pride myself on being

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<v Speaker 1>a lucky worker, you know what I'm saying, Like I was,

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<v Speaker 1>I was lucky because I didn't have to go through

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<v Speaker 1>the major injuries that y'all went through. But I worked

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<v Speaker 1>my tail off, and I'm saying I worked hard to

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. I don't only keep my

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<v Speaker 1>weight down, but you know, make sure that the person

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<v Speaker 1>that was six four two fifty across from me, he

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<v Speaker 1>knew I was who I was. You know, he had

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<v Speaker 1>the game playing for me stuff like that. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>So I prided my cell phone UM making. I prided

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<v Speaker 1>myself on sacrifice, you know when I played UM sacrificing

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying in my mind and my

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<v Speaker 1>body to make sure that this guy went to the

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<v Speaker 1>Pro Bowl. You know what I'm saying, to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that you on those end of rounds that you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, that linebacker was cut down and the

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<v Speaker 1>defense end was cut down, stuff like that. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I like sacrificing, you know, saying my body.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that was my position, so it was I

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<v Speaker 1>was signed to sacrifice. So let's talk about football a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, because listen, we're not gonna have too many

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<v Speaker 1>ex teammates that actually trust on my podcast. I'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>like the real story. This is the first time I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever listening you segue into your own storytelling like typically

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<v Speaker 1>he always dance around around. So what what what was

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<v Speaker 1>it like to be at practice with me in a

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<v Speaker 1>good way because I can say whatever hell I want

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<v Speaker 1>to and I'll make sure Brian edits it out the

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<v Speaker 1>way I wanted to. Um, this is well, I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say. I was gonna say the good way because

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people always just go to you was aggressive,

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah and not. That's why. That's why I

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<v Speaker 1>think one thing that not only playing with you, but

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<v Speaker 1>like being a friend off the field, Like you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get what you're gonna get out of you. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. So when you come in everything like

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<v Speaker 1>so when you come in the morning and you know

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of day is gonna be, Like when you

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<v Speaker 1>see the expression on his face if he if he

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<v Speaker 1>high five in short round, what's up man? This and

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<v Speaker 1>that at seven o'clock in the morning, I have a

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<v Speaker 1>good day. But if he come in mugging back, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>has back over show. This is hanging on the floor,

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<v Speaker 1>one of them cornerbacks probably gonna get fought in practice. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel bad, it's podcasts and we read the room too.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's just how would you you filled up the tension.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, good or bad, But I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's it's a lot of stories that we can

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<v Speaker 1>get into it for two years, but we're here so time.

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<v Speaker 1>But I got a few him. Yeah, that's part on

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<v Speaker 1>because I usually have the same kind of demeanor. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>either very mild or low, like as far as in

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<v Speaker 1>the mornings, like like here you go here on that day,

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<v Speaker 1>his feet, his feet heard him or something alone, Let's

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<v Speaker 1>leave him alone, leave alone. They hurt the best though,

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<v Speaker 1>This is when you know it's bad. He would come

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<v Speaker 1>in and be like, yeah, Steve, I feel like you today.

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<v Speaker 1>I supposed to me that even a complimentary but he's

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<v Speaker 1>still savage. But the thing that would get me about

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<v Speaker 1>Steve is you could think one thing about him, but

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<v Speaker 1>you could be wrong. I blized Steve's home on today,

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<v Speaker 1>and he might he Mike, I don't know my custombody out.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll he'll walk by me, He'll be like, and I'll eat.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be eating a doughnut Friday mornings or Saturday mornings,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever the those mornings, I'll be having the last bite.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, so you want that today? So are you

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<v Speaker 1>playing today? Okay? I mean, so ultimately you get everything.

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<v Speaker 1>But guys are always played with and we have fun.

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<v Speaker 1>There's other guys. There's guys. Yeah, there's guys that all

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<v Speaker 1>that that. Ultimately, do you know if Steve's messing with

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<v Speaker 1>you or not? And those guys you shouldn't. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>talk to them. You don't mess with him. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>You're just not there. Um. But the main thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate about a Steve about Steve is locker room.

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<v Speaker 1>And a lot of guys in our locker room was

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<v Speaker 1>different than a lot of people's locker room. But you're

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<v Speaker 1>not just gonna get football. You're gonna get life. You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get life lessons. You're gonna get like your finances.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't get married, you're gonna get kids all that.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the very first things that Um Smithy

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<v Speaker 1>had told me, I was kind of like hanging. I

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<v Speaker 1>was with Jeff Ota and Um, and I just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of overheard the conversation, and you know, Smithy is talking,

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<v Speaker 1>you know about spending habits, like don't be over there

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<v Speaker 1>buying jewelry and all these cars and all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And if people ask you for things, tell them no,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, oh, anyone anything except your wife and kids.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember hearing that. I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>remember telling him. I remember he was talking about how

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<v Speaker 1>after the season he was gonna buy a Rose Royce

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<v Speaker 1>and he was like, no, don't do it. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and then Jeff was fighting him on it

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<v Speaker 1>like it was like they was arty. He was arguing

0:27:01.560 --> 0:27:04.520
<v Speaker 1>with Steve about advice Steve was giving him, so he

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<v Speaker 1>was he was defending his potential purchase. Yeah, are he

0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:10.720
<v Speaker 1>was gonna rolling it either way, he was rolling it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, I hold back And I'm like, where

0:27:12.840 --> 0:27:16.040
<v Speaker 1>is Jeff Faltar right now? But he glad ain't by

0:27:16.040 --> 0:27:21.479
<v Speaker 1>that room. Maybe he parking it. But you know what,

0:27:21.520 --> 0:27:23.720
<v Speaker 1>do you get it? Like, you get the off the

0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:25.760
<v Speaker 1>field stuff like that with Jeff, but you also get

0:27:25.800 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 1>the owner field stuff too, which is which is fun.

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:32.760
<v Speaker 1>You know. I remember, um my first year playing with you,

0:27:32.800 --> 0:27:36.520
<v Speaker 1>here it was and you come in the locker room

0:27:36.600 --> 0:27:39.480
<v Speaker 1>joking shot around, what's up? Man? You don't hae baby?

0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:42.640
<v Speaker 1>I said, what's up? Alright? Cool? We soon we're walking

0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:45.439
<v Speaker 1>out of practice together and you go, I'm gonna make

0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:48.800
<v Speaker 1>everybody better today, And I'm like, what do you mean

0:27:48.800 --> 0:27:51.000
<v Speaker 1>by that. You know what I'm saying, Like he already

0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:52.760
<v Speaker 1>wanted the best in the game, Like we all got

0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:55.720
<v Speaker 1>to step it up. So I'm talking about warmups, hitting

0:27:55.720 --> 0:27:58.280
<v Speaker 1>the heart, running, running, running around. Something about every route

0:27:58.320 --> 0:28:01.479
<v Speaker 1>was like bomb bomb re rot was. Christine said, we're

0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:03.640
<v Speaker 1>running plays back to back and we're going to seven

0:28:03.680 --> 0:28:05.080
<v Speaker 1>on seven and he was like, this is what I'm

0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:07.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna do it. I'm like, dude, what this Dude, what

0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:10.400
<v Speaker 1>what is he talking about? Every time the ball came

0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:15.160
<v Speaker 1>to him, he looked at it. Remember you remember that

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:17.199
<v Speaker 1>he looked at the ball. One ball came right to

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:19.720
<v Speaker 1>a face mask, knocked it down. I'm like, what is

0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:21.840
<v Speaker 1>he doing? He was like, he's gonna have to learn

0:28:21.880 --> 0:28:26.240
<v Speaker 1>to be accurate. And I was like, WHOA made sense,

0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:32.760
<v Speaker 1>make complete sense, but you was asshole doing it. At

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:35.280
<v Speaker 1>the time, I thought he was an asshole, But I

0:28:35.640 --> 0:28:40.520
<v Speaker 1>get it now. You know what I'm saying. You remember

0:28:40.560 --> 0:28:44.600
<v Speaker 1>that right out routes to come back. He looked at

0:28:44.640 --> 0:28:46.640
<v Speaker 1>every ball go right, But I mean he was five

0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:48.880
<v Speaker 1>or six yards open on every play and he just

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:51.320
<v Speaker 1>looked at the ball fly out abound. He knocked the

0:28:51.320 --> 0:28:54.080
<v Speaker 1>pass down himself. It wins to his like if he

0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:55.840
<v Speaker 1>didn't put his hands up. It was gonna stick in

0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:58.560
<v Speaker 1>his face. Man's like little John's, I'm trying. It was

0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:02.840
<v Speaker 1>that it was the point and he just and going

0:29:02.840 --> 0:29:04.720
<v Speaker 1>through stuff like that, and you know, we all laugh

0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 1>about it, but deep down inside, I believe we all

0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:12.000
<v Speaker 1>know he was doing to make everybody better. It wasn't antagonistic.

0:29:12.160 --> 0:29:14.960
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't trying to some of it was, but something

0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:19.480
<v Speaker 1>of it, some of it was. But what what the

0:29:19.520 --> 0:29:23.280
<v Speaker 1>detail of what he's missing is. So in my two

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:26.200
<v Speaker 1>thousand til so, I'm thirty thirty years old at some

0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:30.040
<v Speaker 1>point right running the a t yr come back thirty

0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:32.600
<v Speaker 1>years old, eighteen yard stop on the time coming back

0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:35.720
<v Speaker 1>in the ball is I'm coming running to come back

0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:38.440
<v Speaker 1>and the ball hasn't been thrown yet. If we're in

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 1>the game by the time the ball comes, that means

0:29:40.920 --> 0:29:44.200
<v Speaker 1>if I'm coming back, that means the guy that's covering

0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:47.360
<v Speaker 1>me it's coming back. So that means time and is

0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:51.960
<v Speaker 1>off right and and analyzing and talking about it involved right.

0:29:52.000 --> 0:29:54.840
<v Speaker 1>If I put in balls for a football, for a

0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:57.600
<v Speaker 1>quarterback to get paid seventy five million dollars, you must

0:29:57.600 --> 0:30:01.600
<v Speaker 1>be confirming what you see in the defense, not discovering.

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:06.120
<v Speaker 1>So if you are discovering what's going on and I'm

0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:08.400
<v Speaker 1>running the eighteen come back and you're just throwing it

0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:12.040
<v Speaker 1>after I've run eighteen yards come back and the guys

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 1>covering me, and you're just discovering it and you're throwing it,

0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:18.120
<v Speaker 1>that means you are late. If you are late and

0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:23.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm on time, that's a pick. So if that's a pig,

0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:34.160
<v Speaker 1>I am paid to catch, not tackle. Is that fairtely? Next? Perfect?

0:30:34.400 --> 0:30:37.200
<v Speaker 1>So I'm trying to figure out what's my job description?

0:30:39.440 --> 0:30:42.840
<v Speaker 1>What'd you say? I got you? I still was ass over.

0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:48.360
<v Speaker 1>I didn't so understand. I asked, I asked it improper question,

0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:50.640
<v Speaker 1>my fault. But what I was trying to leave you No, No,

0:30:50.760 --> 0:30:55.400
<v Speaker 1>I I say that just because sometimes there are things

0:30:55.440 --> 0:30:58.160
<v Speaker 1>that people don't understand, like the nuances of football, like

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:02.160
<v Speaker 1>in practice and game. If you're doing it in practice,

0:31:02.960 --> 0:31:04.800
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna do it in the game. If you don't

0:31:04.800 --> 0:31:07.080
<v Speaker 1>do it in practice, it ain't no damn way you're

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:09.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna do it in the game either. So just trying

0:31:09.440 --> 0:31:11.640
<v Speaker 1>to figure that part out. And that's why the old

0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:16.160
<v Speaker 1>Iverson thing is is, you know, we're talking about practice.

0:31:16.720 --> 0:31:20.560
<v Speaker 1>For me, I looked at practice with practices where I

0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:23.640
<v Speaker 1>what I would try it out, figure it out. Game

0:31:24.200 --> 0:31:28.320
<v Speaker 1>is deja vu. I've already done it. So when I'm

0:31:28.360 --> 0:31:32.440
<v Speaker 1>doing it again, we've supposed we've worked out all the kings. Right,

0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Like you guys are running backs. Y'all had another running

0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:39.520
<v Speaker 1>back in there, D'Angelo. And if ded' angelo bothered me

0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 1>that week or he said something sideways, what I used

0:31:41.920 --> 0:31:46.800
<v Speaker 1>to tell y'all, remember, hey, I better get your board

0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:53.880
<v Speaker 1>because we always had that safety, our mask of our linebackers, coach,

0:31:53.920 --> 0:31:57.600
<v Speaker 1>our alignement, a line coach or line coach. He would

0:31:57.680 --> 0:32:00.440
<v Speaker 1>draw the plays and don't say, all right, we run

0:32:00.440 --> 0:32:04.480
<v Speaker 1>into the left. We don't have to account for the safety.

0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Why who is that wide receiver? So if you tiptoe,

0:32:10.520 --> 0:32:13.760
<v Speaker 1>and if a dude tiptoe, what I used to do

0:32:13.800 --> 0:32:17.560
<v Speaker 1>in the game, if you go, that's yours. If you

0:32:17.640 --> 0:32:21.080
<v Speaker 1>go tiptoe through the home, all right, you better run

0:32:21.120 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 1>through that separating it from the great I really appreciate

0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:30.880
<v Speaker 1>you blocking from me. Man, we go down there and

0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:33.320
<v Speaker 1>we'll there'd be Stewart be sitting there and he see

0:32:33.360 --> 0:32:37.479
<v Speaker 1>that safety creep down. He'd be like street be looking around,

0:32:37.920 --> 0:32:40.280
<v Speaker 1>like I got him. I got him. I go ahead him,

0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 1>Stewart go still like, man, I told you to see

0:32:42.840 --> 0:32:48.760
<v Speaker 1>him for real. Man Like, but Steve, you'd be lifting

0:32:48.800 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 1>people out of the air bro like so Denver, the

0:32:52.040 --> 0:32:56.320
<v Speaker 1>Denver Broncos. I think it was vulnerable about I caught

0:32:56.320 --> 0:32:59.080
<v Speaker 1>a swing pass or a flat pass, curl had a

0:32:59.120 --> 0:33:04.880
<v Speaker 1>curl right and was about get you all that. I

0:33:05.000 --> 0:33:07.640
<v Speaker 1>was like, I just remember turning up the sideline with

0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:12.280
<v Speaker 1>closed on. You know what's coming, huh. I knew he

0:33:12.320 --> 0:33:13.920
<v Speaker 1>was true and so like it was just one of

0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:16.440
<v Speaker 1>them like you just get there so that way you

0:33:16.480 --> 0:33:18.960
<v Speaker 1>just embraced the hit and you stay on your feet

0:33:19.000 --> 0:33:22.600
<v Speaker 1>because you got the bad of bounce. Man. I heard

0:33:22.680 --> 0:33:26.160
<v Speaker 1>the contact so loud that I felt it, but it

0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:29.520
<v Speaker 1>wasn't me. It was about to get hit. It was

0:33:29.560 --> 0:33:34.640
<v Speaker 1>Steve hitting von Miller. All I hear is like at

0:33:34.680 --> 0:33:37.600
<v Speaker 1>the whole sideline, the whole stadium. And then they throw

0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:41.200
<v Speaker 1>a flag because it was just so aggressive and then

0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:43.200
<v Speaker 1>they picked it up right I'm saying, I thought it

0:33:43.240 --> 0:33:47.440
<v Speaker 1>was a leading. It was that one in the Chad Greenway.

0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:49.080
<v Speaker 1>One stands out as well too. Who was running the

0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:52.240
<v Speaker 1>ball on that one? DeAngelo was running ball DeAngelo would

0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:56.240
<v Speaker 1>he would use me. But I was also like, come

0:33:56.320 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 1>this way here, you know, and I leaned into that

0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:02.240
<v Speaker 1>and you said it, both of you guys said, you know,

0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:05.280
<v Speaker 1>as you transform through your career, you what's your wise?

0:34:05.360 --> 0:34:08.800
<v Speaker 1>Different things. But as you mature, being able to ask

0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:12.520
<v Speaker 1>a teammate a friend for help because a lot of

0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:14.319
<v Speaker 1>times we have that pride on our shoulder and I

0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:16.479
<v Speaker 1>just don't want to ask. And but you, for you guys,

0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:19.160
<v Speaker 1>to admit asking for help start started to make you

0:34:19.200 --> 0:34:21.960
<v Speaker 1>a better player? Was there every time you talk about

0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:25.239
<v Speaker 1>missing the box like on an end around? I know

0:34:25.400 --> 0:34:28.479
<v Speaker 1>my man here would elevate everybody's game because of things

0:34:28.520 --> 0:34:31.160
<v Speaker 1>like you said, where there are times where it was

0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:33.000
<v Speaker 1>an end around he was coming around. You missed that

0:34:33.040 --> 0:34:34.920
<v Speaker 1>blocking like, damn man, he's gonna say something to me

0:34:34.920 --> 0:34:39.080
<v Speaker 1>on that one. Um not a lot because he didn't

0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:43.160
<v Speaker 1>like running the end around too much, you know. But

0:34:43.480 --> 0:34:48.239
<v Speaker 1>um so my my position affects to more than his,

0:34:48.360 --> 0:34:49.759
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. But I was in the

0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:51.560
<v Speaker 1>in the game a lot on third downs and I

0:34:51.600 --> 0:34:54.840
<v Speaker 1>needed to protect because we were late a lot, and

0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:57.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, we gotta run routes to get open. So

0:34:57.400 --> 0:35:00.160
<v Speaker 1>that that's kind of how indirectly my my position and

0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:03.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, blended with his. But I mean there's there's

0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:07.879
<v Speaker 1>been plenty of times where, um, you know, you gotta

0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:10.680
<v Speaker 1>account for somebody else's responsibility, you know what I mean,

0:35:10.719 --> 0:35:13.160
<v Speaker 1>whether it be picking up an old line, got it

0:35:13.360 --> 0:35:16.200
<v Speaker 1>fell in his in his kick slide, or you know,

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:19.600
<v Speaker 1>ball is in the back for I dropped the ball

0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:22.279
<v Speaker 1>right like it would be times if I dropped the ball,

0:35:22.480 --> 0:35:25.839
<v Speaker 1>I'll be the first one coming back to the huddle said, man,

0:35:26.239 --> 0:35:30.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'll let you all down. I remember my

0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:34.400
<v Speaker 1>first year we played the Charges in San Diego, or

0:35:34.640 --> 0:35:37.200
<v Speaker 1>it was still in San Diego at the time. Yeah,

0:35:37.280 --> 0:35:40.279
<v Speaker 1>we played the Charges in San Diego. And I'm in

0:35:40.560 --> 0:35:43.880
<v Speaker 1>it's like second in like three and I catch a

0:35:44.480 --> 0:35:47.040
<v Speaker 1>wide route. I'm not supposed to be trying to jump

0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:48.920
<v Speaker 1>nobody or nothing like that. I try to make a

0:35:49.000 --> 0:35:53.640
<v Speaker 1>move and cornerback trip me up like half of y'ard,

0:35:54.040 --> 0:35:57.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, from the from the first down, and everybody's like,

0:35:57.560 --> 0:35:59.439
<v Speaker 1>come on, man, just run through and get the first down.

0:36:00.160 --> 0:36:01.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're gonna we're gonna make it work, you

0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:03.399
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. We're gonna go back next play,

0:36:03.640 --> 0:36:07.280
<v Speaker 1>next play we come up, he run a short um

0:36:07.440 --> 0:36:10.200
<v Speaker 1>short dig route catch ball. First time. He's like, don't

0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:12.120
<v Speaker 1>worry about it. I got you. I remember that. You

0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:13.719
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, little stuff like that. Don't worry

0:36:13.719 --> 0:36:14.879
<v Speaker 1>about that. I got you. You know what I mean.

0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:17.399
<v Speaker 1>And it's been it's multiple cases where not just him,

0:36:17.400 --> 0:36:20.319
<v Speaker 1>but other people cover up from other people's mistakes. You know,

0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:24.319
<v Speaker 1>if nobody's perfect on the field, man, that's that's life.

0:36:24.360 --> 0:36:26.239
<v Speaker 1>That's business, you know, not just on the football field.

0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:28.680
<v Speaker 1>A lot of times you do need help from other folks. Man.

0:36:28.719 --> 0:36:31.400
<v Speaker 1>So we've been hearing athletes like yourself understanding you're only

0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:32.839
<v Speaker 1>as good as the guy next to you. With that,

0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:35.319
<v Speaker 1>that's really cool to hear about one of the toughest things.

0:36:35.320 --> 0:36:40.520
<v Speaker 1>So I think I believe um in in a huddle hu.

0:36:40.560 --> 0:36:43.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I ever told that this is um.

0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:50.560
<v Speaker 1>So we were in cream Bay and this Stewie breaks

0:36:50.600 --> 0:36:54.520
<v Speaker 1>out on a run. But we were in Green Bay

0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:58.200
<v Speaker 1>and it was cold, so Stewie didn't warm up. Let

0:36:58.280 --> 0:37:02.680
<v Speaker 1>me hold on, stop that Smithy doesn't doesn't warm up ever,

0:37:03.280 --> 0:37:06.880
<v Speaker 1>and so I would wear a lot of clothes Dame

0:37:07.000 --> 0:37:11.960
<v Speaker 1>day up. But he's an alien Okay, so he doesn't

0:37:11.960 --> 0:37:16.680
<v Speaker 1>have to warm up. Everyone should warm up. That's the name,

0:37:16.760 --> 0:37:21.200
<v Speaker 1>that's the name of the story. Continue. So we get

0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:27.000
<v Speaker 1>give the ball to Stey, Stewet breaks one. Stewey breaks one,

0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:32.200
<v Speaker 1>and about it's about fifty sixty yard touchdown and about

0:37:32.320 --> 0:37:37.000
<v Speaker 1>thirty five yards saying he starts breaking down and he

0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:41.520
<v Speaker 1>still got about thirty more yards to go, Like, bro,

0:37:41.680 --> 0:37:46.600
<v Speaker 1>what are you doing? And so I have to I'm

0:37:46.680 --> 0:37:50.160
<v Speaker 1>speeding up to catch him because I see I'm like

0:37:51.200 --> 0:37:55.800
<v Speaker 1>slowing down he's about to get walking. So do we

0:37:55.880 --> 0:38:00.120
<v Speaker 1>end up scoring? You end up scoring? Warton carriage? Know,

0:38:01.080 --> 0:38:04.920
<v Speaker 1>I I got hit from behind and into the end

0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:09.480
<v Speaker 1>zone and then Treville Wharton was running behind me and

0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:14.560
<v Speaker 1>jumped on the ball. But he's he was there so

0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:19.560
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, what are you doing? His reply, I

0:38:19.600 --> 0:38:26.160
<v Speaker 1>didn't warm up? It's a football game. How did you

0:38:26.360 --> 0:38:33.359
<v Speaker 1>not warm up? Skip pasting on the sideline for too long? Man?

0:38:33.440 --> 0:38:36.839
<v Speaker 1>They put him back on the side after that game.

0:38:36.920 --> 0:38:38.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't think none of us warmed up when we

0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:41.800
<v Speaker 1>played in Minnesota there, you know, man? Yeah, that Trevl

0:38:41.840 --> 0:38:45.800
<v Speaker 1>Wharton's wanted only touchdowns? Do we know stats guy? Where's

0:38:45.800 --> 0:38:52.080
<v Speaker 1>my stats guy? But but shall we fast forward? And

0:38:52.160 --> 0:38:56.879
<v Speaker 1>that was the catch against Charles Wilson. I believe show

0:38:56.920 --> 0:39:01.560
<v Speaker 1>we in there, Tobers over there rolling people over in

0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:04.440
<v Speaker 1>San Diego. So he's not even there yet. This is

0:39:04.480 --> 0:39:08.720
<v Speaker 1>what Coach Fox. And so we're in there, and Jake's

0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:11.440
<v Speaker 1>the quarterback, moose In's there, and so we're all in

0:39:11.440 --> 0:39:15.360
<v Speaker 1>the huddle, and Jeff Altar was there, Travell Wharton, Jordan's

0:39:15.360 --> 0:39:18.920
<v Speaker 1>gross and Ryan Khalil. So one of the things I

0:39:18.920 --> 0:39:22.960
<v Speaker 1>struggle with is in that in that moment, especially in

0:39:23.040 --> 0:39:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Coach Fox's offense, about third down, third down come and

0:39:27.840 --> 0:39:30.680
<v Speaker 1>I always used to put my head down, a Smithy,

0:39:30.719 --> 0:39:33.279
<v Speaker 1>we need to play from me. We played Smithy, we

0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:35.520
<v Speaker 1>need to play from me. And I always used to

0:39:35.560 --> 0:39:38.399
<v Speaker 1>have my head down because I would here to play

0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:41.880
<v Speaker 1>as he would say to play, I would go go

0:39:42.080 --> 0:39:45.400
<v Speaker 1>over it in my head. But one also the things

0:39:45.960 --> 0:39:48.520
<v Speaker 1>that I always thought about why I put my head

0:39:48.560 --> 0:39:51.000
<v Speaker 1>down is I would put my head down and close

0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:55.920
<v Speaker 1>my eyes sometimes because of the fear that lettin the

0:39:56.120 --> 0:40:00.319
<v Speaker 1>guys down in that huddle. So the unique it's up

0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:05.920
<v Speaker 1>that huddle. You got Ryan khalil usc Um, great great

0:40:06.000 --> 0:40:11.120
<v Speaker 1>athletic center, Jeff Altar from pitt first round Treville Warden

0:40:11.200 --> 0:40:14.120
<v Speaker 1>from South Carolina third or second round pick. He was

0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:18.279
<v Speaker 1>a tackle, they transferred him to guard. And then my

0:40:18.320 --> 0:40:21.719
<v Speaker 1>guy Jordan Gross, who I played two years with at

0:40:21.840 --> 0:40:28.239
<v Speaker 1>Utah and then played pretty much thirteen years with in Carolina.

0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:30.960
<v Speaker 1>So I paid I when I went to Baltimore, that

0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:33.919
<v Speaker 1>was the first time in my career that my left

0:40:33.920 --> 0:40:39.359
<v Speaker 1>tackle wasn't Jordan Gross. And so I'm sitting there and

0:40:39.480 --> 0:40:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Jake would ask me, you know what you want? Hey,

0:40:41.880 --> 0:40:45.719
<v Speaker 1>what's play you on? But the interesting thing about that

0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:48.759
<v Speaker 1>is I would close my eyes because I did not

0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:52.600
<v Speaker 1>want to let these guys now because I knew they

0:40:52.640 --> 0:40:55.000
<v Speaker 1>were I knew that significant others. I knew, I knew

0:40:55.040 --> 0:41:00.440
<v Speaker 1>their wives, our kids had birthday birthdays together. And so

0:41:00.560 --> 0:41:03.440
<v Speaker 1>one of the toughest things is to manage that pressure

0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:07.799
<v Speaker 1>but also look at the look the men in the eye.

0:41:08.960 --> 0:41:12.200
<v Speaker 1>If you messed up that you let them down. And

0:41:12.239 --> 0:41:17.319
<v Speaker 1>so for me, that routine was was imperative because if

0:41:17.360 --> 0:41:22.799
<v Speaker 1>I had failed, I just didn't failed myself. I felt

0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:25.960
<v Speaker 1>those guys. The way I look at is I'm I'm

0:41:26.000 --> 0:41:31.640
<v Speaker 1>in house, I'm on house, h I'm on house money.

0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:40.440
<v Speaker 1>But I don't want to mess up you guys is money.

0:41:40.440 --> 0:41:42.160
<v Speaker 1>So that was one of the toughest things I always

0:41:42.200 --> 0:41:45.120
<v Speaker 1>struggle with. If you go back and you google or

0:41:45.160 --> 0:41:47.440
<v Speaker 1>look at it or even watch you old tape. I

0:41:47.440 --> 0:41:50.880
<v Speaker 1>always had my head now because I was fearful of

0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:54.359
<v Speaker 1>letting the guys tell other guys down in the hall.

0:41:56.680 --> 0:41:58.600
<v Speaker 1>That's interesting, man, because I think I was gonna say,

0:41:58.600 --> 0:42:02.560
<v Speaker 1>what was your reaction to that? That? I think everyone

0:42:02.640 --> 0:42:07.520
<v Speaker 1>has that right, But like, I mean, you're explaining that

0:42:07.600 --> 0:42:11.160
<v Speaker 1>and me actually, like going back into a huddle, I

0:42:11.200 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 1>can see that. I see that like I've seen that before,

0:42:14.600 --> 0:42:18.360
<v Speaker 1>and you would have never thought that that existed in you.

0:42:18.760 --> 0:42:21.120
<v Speaker 1>I think most people when they're when they're watching football,

0:42:21.160 --> 0:42:25.319
<v Speaker 1>when they're watching professional athletes, that's probably a thought that

0:42:25.400 --> 0:42:28.960
<v Speaker 1>never crosses the general person who's watching the game of fans,

0:42:29.000 --> 0:42:31.359
<v Speaker 1>that's probably never cross in their mind. They see all

0:42:31.360 --> 0:42:33.719
<v Speaker 1>the athletic plays you guys make, they see the touchdowns,

0:42:33.719 --> 0:42:37.360
<v Speaker 1>they see the celebrations, they see overcoming adversity. But I

0:42:37.400 --> 0:42:39.759
<v Speaker 1>don't think raise your hand, because we have we have

0:42:39.800 --> 0:42:42.000
<v Speaker 1>an audience. Now, this isn't just us, Like raise your hand.

0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:44.160
<v Speaker 1>If you really think that when you would see a

0:42:44.160 --> 0:42:46.600
<v Speaker 1>guy like Steve or Jonathan or mikeet that they're in

0:42:46.680 --> 0:42:49.840
<v Speaker 1>that hole and they have fear on top of them. Like,

0:42:50.239 --> 0:42:52.680
<v Speaker 1>is that something that you guys think to everyone's shaking

0:42:52.680 --> 0:42:57.840
<v Speaker 1>their head like Nope, have no clue. Well, but you know,

0:42:57.880 --> 0:43:00.600
<v Speaker 1>you say fans, But here's the man that's a side

0:43:00.600 --> 0:43:02.920
<v Speaker 1>by side with him in a huddle and did you

0:43:02.960 --> 0:43:06.160
<v Speaker 1>know that coming in that bothered him like that. I mean,

0:43:08.800 --> 0:43:12.200
<v Speaker 1>the right thing to say is everyone probably has that,

0:43:13.120 --> 0:43:16.799
<v Speaker 1>but there's just because there's very few that you think

0:43:16.880 --> 0:43:21.279
<v Speaker 1>that it really like hits them the way it was

0:43:21.360 --> 0:43:25.080
<v Speaker 1>just explained. Because there's been times where I've seen somebody

0:43:25.160 --> 0:43:27.840
<v Speaker 1>coming to the huddle and said, you better run the

0:43:28.200 --> 0:43:30.520
<v Speaker 1>you better hope that you better get the first down

0:43:30.920 --> 0:43:33.880
<v Speaker 1>because of not you better throw the ball me like,

0:43:35.040 --> 0:43:37.080
<v Speaker 1>but like, look, I think it was an Arizona game.

0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:42.600
<v Speaker 1>Um Jake called something and he was you were mad.

0:43:42.640 --> 0:43:44.399
<v Speaker 1>I think we were drawing, like called the draw play

0:43:44.400 --> 0:43:48.640
<v Speaker 1>because we ran draws like it was nothing my rookie year,

0:43:49.440 --> 0:43:54.520
<v Speaker 1>and and we'd be losing running draws and he called something.

0:43:54.920 --> 0:43:57.960
<v Speaker 1>You can tell he was upset. And then it didn't

0:43:58.000 --> 0:44:00.360
<v Speaker 1>go well. He came back to the huddle and he

0:44:00.440 --> 0:44:04.240
<v Speaker 1>told us to run some play. It was a bubble screen,

0:44:05.360 --> 0:44:08.400
<v Speaker 1>and he came and told us that is what he

0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:12.480
<v Speaker 1>wanted to run. So you see one of those things

0:44:12.560 --> 0:44:18.560
<v Speaker 1>where a player at at his stature come into the

0:44:18.600 --> 0:44:21.120
<v Speaker 1>huddle saying I want this play because I'm about the score.

0:44:21.960 --> 0:44:24.720
<v Speaker 1>He rubbly run the play and he scores a sixty

0:44:24.760 --> 0:44:29.319
<v Speaker 1>yard touchdown step songs, a guy spins off another guy

0:44:29.400 --> 0:44:32.440
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, and he goes down the sideline. So you

0:44:32.520 --> 0:44:37.719
<v Speaker 1>see that, and you hear that in a huddle, and

0:44:37.760 --> 0:44:44.839
<v Speaker 1>then I hear that when the line. That's what That's

0:44:44.840 --> 0:44:46.640
<v Speaker 1>what I's That's what I was about to ask, like

0:44:46.880 --> 0:44:49.799
<v Speaker 1>when you are in that mood when you were in

0:44:50.840 --> 0:44:53.520
<v Speaker 1>told me the ball, I want the ball, give it

0:44:53.560 --> 0:44:57.040
<v Speaker 1>to me. I'm like, which is like, because then I

0:44:57.080 --> 0:44:59.319
<v Speaker 1>put Then we say to play. I put my head down. Man,

0:44:59.360 --> 0:45:06.480
<v Speaker 1>I can't fun. Why don't say that? And then I'm going.

0:45:06.600 --> 0:45:09.680
<v Speaker 1>But then I'm jogging, jogging out and I'm looking at

0:45:09.680 --> 0:45:13.680
<v Speaker 1>the defense like, yeah, that wasn't a good. That wasn't

0:45:13.680 --> 0:45:16.000
<v Speaker 1>a good. That was just the parallel I was trying

0:45:16.040 --> 0:45:18.799
<v Speaker 1>to paint to everything. Stupid just said, like you you

0:45:19.280 --> 0:45:21.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't think most people of course watching, but you're

0:45:22.000 --> 0:45:23.960
<v Speaker 1>in the huddle and you you don't even see that

0:45:24.080 --> 0:45:28.319
<v Speaker 1>that dynamic exactly. I hid it so well, yeah, I

0:45:28.400 --> 0:45:30.239
<v Speaker 1>never saw that, you know what I mean. But I

0:45:30.239 --> 0:45:33.400
<v Speaker 1>think on a football team, like coaches and the players,

0:45:33.440 --> 0:45:35.960
<v Speaker 1>they all breathe camaraderie, so we don't want to let

0:45:35.960 --> 0:45:39.879
<v Speaker 1>each other down. But to hear somebody say that they

0:45:39.880 --> 0:45:42.040
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to look at everybody else because I didn't

0:45:42.040 --> 0:45:43.719
<v Speaker 1>want to let you down, you know what I'm saying.

0:45:43.800 --> 0:45:46.319
<v Speaker 1>It hits a little different, you know, but it could be,

0:45:47.120 --> 0:45:49.279
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, that could go both ways, because you

0:45:49.320 --> 0:45:52.480
<v Speaker 1>can be in there with your head down, shaking in

0:45:52.560 --> 0:45:55.880
<v Speaker 1>your draws because you're scared that you're gonna let everybody down,

0:45:56.120 --> 0:45:58.359
<v Speaker 1>as opposed to going out there. I'm like that I'm

0:45:58.360 --> 0:46:01.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna go make his play, and it would go through

0:46:01.080 --> 0:46:04.000
<v Speaker 1>that whole process. Put my head down, go through my routine,

0:46:04.520 --> 0:46:08.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, blah blah blah, just to play and okay,

0:46:08.160 --> 0:46:10.560
<v Speaker 1>and then I walk out and I go through my routine. Okay,

0:46:10.560 --> 0:46:13.480
<v Speaker 1>safety is right here, linebacker, Okay, cool? You know what

0:46:13.880 --> 0:46:16.399
<v Speaker 1>what release am I going and show that preparation during

0:46:16.400 --> 0:46:19.600
<v Speaker 1>the week of watching film, nor you know, knowing all

0:46:19.600 --> 0:46:24.040
<v Speaker 1>of my information that I knew so, and then before

0:46:24.080 --> 0:46:28.920
<v Speaker 1>the game, I would literally walk. I would walk or

0:46:29.040 --> 0:46:35.040
<v Speaker 1>slight jog. I would walk through every single route before

0:46:35.040 --> 0:46:41.120
<v Speaker 1>the game, and so I technically I never stretched, but

0:46:41.200 --> 0:46:45.239
<v Speaker 1>I would walk through it mentally, and then I would

0:46:45.239 --> 0:46:48.560
<v Speaker 1>just catch. I would catch the footballs and work on

0:46:48.600 --> 0:46:52.280
<v Speaker 1>my hands and then work on different kind of acrobatic

0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:57.160
<v Speaker 1>catches in practice to really control and train my eye

0:46:57.280 --> 0:47:00.799
<v Speaker 1>hand coordination. And I was the way it out. I

0:47:00.840 --> 0:47:06.760
<v Speaker 1>would do it, but that's why. But my confidence wasn't

0:47:06.800 --> 0:47:08.880
<v Speaker 1>and I was a really good player. My confidence was

0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:13.360
<v Speaker 1>in my preparation and that's why I like it was

0:47:13.400 --> 0:47:15.400
<v Speaker 1>at least once a week when I come to practice.

0:47:16.480 --> 0:47:20.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm not playing with you all the day. Good do it? Good,

0:47:20.800 --> 0:47:26.239
<v Speaker 1>do it? Get down to do it. Hey, Gerard, why

0:47:26.280 --> 0:47:29.600
<v Speaker 1>did you get that T shirt? Oh? Yes, I got

0:47:29.600 --> 0:47:31.600
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0:47:31.640 --> 0:47:34.759
<v Speaker 1>have exclusive merchandise. Shout out to our guys at seven

0:47:34.840 --> 0:47:36.799
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0:47:36.800 --> 0:47:39.160
<v Speaker 1>you a T shirt, subscribe to us wherever you listen

0:47:39.160 --> 0:47:43.399
<v Speaker 1>to podcasts. Talk about confidence and knowing everything about the game.

0:47:43.400 --> 0:47:46.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, I've my friendship with Steve. He he gets

0:47:46.560 --> 0:47:49.600
<v Speaker 1>really jazzed up and gassed up to talk about plays

0:47:49.680 --> 0:47:52.600
<v Speaker 1>like he has every playbook from every team that he's

0:47:52.600 --> 0:47:55.320
<v Speaker 1>ever played on. And uh, I remember being in Steve's

0:47:55.360 --> 0:47:58.400
<v Speaker 1>house a handful of times where he gets just getty

0:47:58.480 --> 0:48:01.640
<v Speaker 1>talking about he knows every position, every play, what the

0:48:01.719 --> 0:48:03.640
<v Speaker 1>lineman is doing, with the tight ends doing, with the

0:48:03.719 --> 0:48:07.719
<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks doing. He knows everything about that piece. And that

0:48:07.760 --> 0:48:10.000
<v Speaker 1>goes to your studying, and that goes to still have

0:48:11.080 --> 0:48:13.560
<v Speaker 1>our playbook when I was with the Panthers on the

0:48:13.600 --> 0:48:18.279
<v Speaker 1>culture of the whole offense, like the lineman. So when

0:48:18.320 --> 0:48:22.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm watching television and I hear T STU are here

0:48:22.040 --> 0:48:24.120
<v Speaker 1>to a gap or b gapp or double b gapp

0:48:24.160 --> 0:48:27.560
<v Speaker 1>or to see gap, I go back in that terminology

0:48:27.920 --> 0:48:32.520
<v Speaker 1>to read it, to make sure not to correct the TV.

0:48:32.640 --> 0:48:35.040
<v Speaker 1>Got to make sure that I'm hearing it right. So

0:48:35.160 --> 0:48:37.960
<v Speaker 1>when I do TV, I'm not just talking out of

0:48:37.960 --> 0:48:45.640
<v Speaker 1>my butt. Yeah, we've got any questions in audience, anybody

0:48:45.680 --> 0:48:47.359
<v Speaker 1>can you come up? Can you come on the show

0:48:47.440 --> 0:48:51.160
<v Speaker 1>a microphone? We want to make sure so security number.

0:48:51.680 --> 0:48:59.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm Brian, Hi, Brian, he claim for ten years now. Welcome.

0:48:59.200 --> 0:49:01.160
<v Speaker 1>Tell us about the play against the Rams. I know

0:49:01.280 --> 0:49:03.839
<v Speaker 1>all of his Panthers fans. Remember where we were watching that.

0:49:05.280 --> 0:49:09.840
<v Speaker 1>I was in college what Lenora in playing baseball position

0:49:09.880 --> 0:49:12.560
<v Speaker 1>there with all my buddies third base. Yeah, yeah, we're

0:49:12.560 --> 0:49:19.040
<v Speaker 1>sitting on Lenora rahon third base. You were drinking beers.

0:49:19.120 --> 0:49:28.719
<v Speaker 1>Uh there, look at it. But now that's one of

0:49:28.719 --> 0:49:30.680
<v Speaker 1>my favorite players as the Panthers fans. So just talk

0:49:30.800 --> 0:49:34.640
<v Speaker 1>us through that. It was a play in which everybody knows,

0:49:34.840 --> 0:49:37.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, just like practice, we're trying to figure it out.

0:49:37.640 --> 0:49:40.440
<v Speaker 1>I ran a certain way. Um, I never in this

0:49:40.719 --> 0:49:44.120
<v Speaker 1>I never ran the same route the same way. I

0:49:44.160 --> 0:49:48.640
<v Speaker 1>always did something different. He said, that would frustrate Jake.

0:49:48.760 --> 0:49:51.920
<v Speaker 1>That frustrates office coordinator. But that was just something that

0:49:51.960 --> 0:49:54.160
<v Speaker 1>I always did. I never ran the same route the

0:49:54.160 --> 0:49:59.480
<v Speaker 1>same way. My name is Blake. I'm good, happy to

0:49:59.480 --> 0:50:03.200
<v Speaker 1>be here. But um, for three of you guys, especially

0:50:03.200 --> 0:50:07.520
<v Speaker 1>you with the new Jersey change rule, would you think

0:50:07.560 --> 0:50:11.920
<v Speaker 1>that you would have ever seen yourself moved to seven? No? No,

0:50:13.080 --> 0:50:19.400
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't. Not young since high school, so now right, No,

0:50:19.640 --> 0:50:34.400
<v Speaker 1>I've always been double digit. Yeah, like agent seven just

0:50:34.440 --> 0:50:36.799
<v Speaker 1>doesn't hit right. But but the thing is is so

0:50:36.960 --> 0:50:39.520
<v Speaker 1>the long story, the long and short version of that

0:50:39.640 --> 0:50:44.880
<v Speaker 1>is so um when I was drafted. I had seven

0:50:44.880 --> 0:50:49.080
<v Speaker 1>in college war seven and junior college. I went to

0:50:49.120 --> 0:50:51.759
<v Speaker 1>a public school, so we had whatever Jersey it was

0:50:52.040 --> 0:50:54.640
<v Speaker 1>that week, we had three, and I had three and

0:50:54.719 --> 0:50:57.080
<v Speaker 1>seven in high school. But the way I had to

0:50:57.080 --> 0:51:01.840
<v Speaker 1>wear fifteen because we didn't have a Jersey public school

0:51:02.440 --> 0:51:06.239
<v Speaker 1>and and then I wore seven in junior college and

0:51:06.239 --> 0:51:09.040
<v Speaker 1>then I wore seven in college. When I got drafted

0:51:09.080 --> 0:51:15.120
<v Speaker 1>by the Panthers, I wanted eighty seven. But Mose Muhammad,

0:51:15.200 --> 0:51:17.000
<v Speaker 1>I think at that time it was like a second

0:51:17.040 --> 0:51:18.920
<v Speaker 1>or third Pro Bowl, he didn't want to give it up.

0:51:19.640 --> 0:51:22.000
<v Speaker 1>And then Carl Hankton big Bank told me, he's like

0:51:22.040 --> 0:51:24.759
<v Speaker 1>he had go ask him. I didn't know that was

0:51:24.800 --> 0:51:29.200
<v Speaker 1>a set up. I went and asked, Moose, kill the dog,

0:51:30.200 --> 0:51:33.839
<v Speaker 1>sit your ass down somewhere. And so when I locked

0:51:33.880 --> 0:51:36.440
<v Speaker 1>when I got into the locker room. The one thing

0:51:36.520 --> 0:51:39.680
<v Speaker 1>I did not want I was on the on the

0:51:39.760 --> 0:51:43.640
<v Speaker 1>whole flight. I was on a remember Continental, that was

0:51:43.680 --> 0:51:48.320
<v Speaker 1>my flight Continental from Utah to Charlotte, and I was

0:51:48.400 --> 0:51:49.680
<v Speaker 1>on that and I was like, I do not want

0:51:49.719 --> 0:51:51.919
<v Speaker 1>eighty nine. I do not want eighty nine because eighty

0:51:52.000 --> 0:51:54.799
<v Speaker 1>nine was he had two numbers. Ray crews had eighty

0:51:54.880 --> 0:51:57.320
<v Speaker 1>three and eighty nine. I did not want that number,

0:51:58.080 --> 0:52:00.839
<v Speaker 1>but they gave me that number. Like, I don't they

0:52:00.880 --> 0:52:03.280
<v Speaker 1>gave me that numb So they gave me a number

0:52:04.680 --> 0:52:07.399
<v Speaker 1>aven angels like please, du I kill made nine please

0:52:07.480 --> 0:52:11.319
<v Speaker 1>because it was what it was associated with. Right. He

0:52:11.440 --> 0:52:14.319
<v Speaker 1>was from Colorado, he was originally from Cali. He was

0:52:14.400 --> 0:52:18.600
<v Speaker 1>light skinned. I'm from Cali, went to Utah. I'm light skinning.

0:52:19.120 --> 0:52:22.399
<v Speaker 1>The similarities, the similarities, I just did not want any

0:52:22.480 --> 0:52:26.560
<v Speaker 1>of it. So I had in my rookie year and

0:52:26.560 --> 0:52:30.400
<v Speaker 1>and so I had lunch with the team president at

0:52:30.440 --> 0:52:33.319
<v Speaker 1>the time, which is still a good friend, which is

0:52:33.400 --> 0:52:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Mark Richardson, And I said, bro, like, I do not

0:52:37.080 --> 0:52:39.840
<v Speaker 1>want this jersey. Why do you give me this jersey?

0:52:39.840 --> 0:52:42.680
<v Speaker 1>And Mark said, listen, we gave it his jersey is

0:52:42.719 --> 0:52:47.000
<v Speaker 1>because we know the association to this jersey. But we

0:52:47.040 --> 0:52:48.680
<v Speaker 1>also gave it to you. Is because this is the

0:52:48.800 --> 0:52:53.640
<v Speaker 1>number that we've given guys who aren't just only been

0:52:53.719 --> 0:52:57.839
<v Speaker 1>here temporarily. So there's a guy receiver that played with

0:52:57.880 --> 0:53:00.799
<v Speaker 1>you in San Francisco with George Seyffert name always it came,

0:53:01.560 --> 0:53:03.200
<v Speaker 1>so they gave it to him. He was gonnae. They

0:53:03.239 --> 0:53:05.440
<v Speaker 1>gave it to the out blow birds he was gonna

0:53:06.080 --> 0:53:07.799
<v Speaker 1>and so they gave it to me, and I was like,

0:53:07.840 --> 0:53:11.480
<v Speaker 1>all right, So after the lunch, I really felt bad.

0:53:13.840 --> 0:53:15.520
<v Speaker 1>After lunch, he was like, look, if you want to

0:53:15.600 --> 0:53:18.360
<v Speaker 1>change the number, that's fine, but this is the reason

0:53:18.480 --> 0:53:20.800
<v Speaker 1>we gave you this number. We gave you this number

0:53:21.040 --> 0:53:26.200
<v Speaker 1>hoping you will change what this number represents for organization.

0:53:27.520 --> 0:53:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Everybody knows what he did, everybody knows what's going on.

0:53:30.600 --> 0:53:32.719
<v Speaker 1>That's why we gave it to you. Hopefully it can

0:53:32.760 --> 0:53:40.600
<v Speaker 1>be a number that's relative to something good, just stability.

0:53:41.960 --> 0:53:44.200
<v Speaker 1>So if you want to change it, go ahead and

0:53:44.280 --> 0:53:47.760
<v Speaker 1>change it now. I was when I got drafted, I

0:53:47.840 --> 0:53:51.400
<v Speaker 1>just turned two years two years old, so I was

0:53:51.600 --> 0:53:55.520
<v Speaker 1>very you know, I was very young. So I was like,

0:53:55.800 --> 0:53:58.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting in my car. After that, I'm like, damn,

0:53:58.400 --> 0:54:04.160
<v Speaker 1>I can't change it. Nown After that, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>years old, after they tell you that, you know, you go, well,

0:54:07.920 --> 0:54:09.799
<v Speaker 1>if I change it now, I'm in an asshole, right,

0:54:10.560 --> 0:54:12.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm already in assholes. I don't want to be associated

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<v Speaker 1>with being one out and open, right, And so after that,

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<v Speaker 1>I just and that's why I stuck with it. And

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<v Speaker 1>so that's why, you know, and That's why I never

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<v Speaker 1>would change is because for me, me changing that number

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<v Speaker 1>would say that I would be wanting to throw away

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<v Speaker 1>the investment that someone else had in me before I

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<v Speaker 1>even knew that that's what they were doing. That's deep.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why I won't. That's that the origin of

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<v Speaker 1>the origin. That's the reason why I wouldn't. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>change like I wouldn't do that just because of how

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<v Speaker 1>and what they what they what they did on the

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<v Speaker 1>reason why. And it was Mark who told me. He

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<v Speaker 1>was like, this is why, that's what's up. But I didn't.

0:54:57.719 --> 0:55:01.080
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even know that he had ano. He wore

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<v Speaker 1>two numbers. He wore like two or three numbers. But

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<v Speaker 1>like his last finished, he finished with eighty three. He

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<v Speaker 1>feel flip flop. But his last game before it all

0:55:12.000 --> 0:55:14.480
<v Speaker 1>went down was eighty nine. But he was one of

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<v Speaker 1>eighty three and eight and one more for these guys,

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<v Speaker 1>anybody it's going on, Steve, my name's Adam Lewis. Appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>you having me on here. UM So not only are

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<v Speaker 1>you an all time receiver, but it definitely um all

0:55:27.800 --> 0:55:30.440
<v Speaker 1>time trash shocker. Did you come into the league like

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<v Speaker 1>that or was that something you kind of had to

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<v Speaker 1>learn to stand your ground being in the NFL. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a great question. This is my reply is totally racist.

0:55:37.880 --> 0:55:44.560
<v Speaker 1>But I'm just okay, here's here's what I'm gonna saying.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a racist. Why my statement is racist. I grew

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<v Speaker 1>up as a black man. Noisha shocker, me too. But

0:55:54.560 --> 0:55:56.960
<v Speaker 1>many so many people in here will know where I'm

0:55:57.000 --> 0:55:59.839
<v Speaker 1>going with this and why I said this. I grew up.

0:56:00.160 --> 0:56:06.879
<v Speaker 1>My mom is one of thirteen my mom's My mom

0:56:07.000 --> 0:56:12.040
<v Speaker 1>had me and my brother. Okay, so it's my grandmother,

0:56:12.400 --> 0:56:16.000
<v Speaker 1>my mom, me and my kids. There are sixty five

0:56:16.120 --> 0:56:24.040
<v Speaker 1>of us. Okay, so can you imagine what the barbecues

0:56:24.040 --> 0:56:31.759
<v Speaker 1>are like? Yeah? And the cards Domino's tumped space. There

0:56:32.040 --> 0:56:36.840
<v Speaker 1>is a lot of talking going on. And so I

0:56:36.960 --> 0:56:46.239
<v Speaker 1>grew up watching old folks play cards, right, Domino's, let

0:56:46.360 --> 0:56:55.680
<v Speaker 1>trees fall on that ass stress, right, just all of

0:56:55.800 --> 0:56:58.080
<v Speaker 1>that stuff. So when I grew up watching and listening

0:56:58.120 --> 0:57:02.239
<v Speaker 1>to old folks play rds, you inspire to be that.

0:57:02.600 --> 0:57:05.240
<v Speaker 1>But our deal was if you couldn't count, you couldn't

0:57:05.280 --> 0:57:08.200
<v Speaker 1>play cards. So you have to learn how to count.

0:57:09.000 --> 0:57:10.759
<v Speaker 1>And if you didn't know how to count, they would

0:57:10.840 --> 0:57:15.120
<v Speaker 1>talk you off the card table, and so you I

0:57:15.239 --> 0:57:16.959
<v Speaker 1>went through that show by the time I was twelve

0:57:17.080 --> 0:57:21.320
<v Speaker 1>years old. I'm playing spades, I'm playing dominoes, I am

0:57:21.440 --> 0:57:27.560
<v Speaker 1>playing cards and playing games with men who have no filter.

0:57:28.720 --> 0:57:30.680
<v Speaker 1>But she goes around a reading on that space table

0:57:30.720 --> 0:57:32.880
<v Speaker 1>and see what happens. Yes, and so that's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So so now, and the reason I said, as I

0:57:36.560 --> 0:57:38.840
<v Speaker 1>love my wife married twenty one years, my wife's from

0:57:38.840 --> 0:57:42.280
<v Speaker 1>you talk. They don't play cards like that. They ain't

0:57:42.360 --> 0:57:46.040
<v Speaker 1>dog cussing, No fifty year old kid, it's like, oh

0:57:46.120 --> 0:57:55.040
<v Speaker 1>my gosh, don't say that. Get your stuff like that. Yeah, exactly.

0:57:55.120 --> 0:57:57.400
<v Speaker 1>So it's just a different level. That's why I said,

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<v Speaker 1>my the way I said is racist, because that's also

0:58:01.560 --> 0:58:05.600
<v Speaker 1>where the where your character is built. That a good

0:58:05.640 --> 0:58:09.920
<v Speaker 1>old fashioned community that our kids lacked. Now, right, get

0:58:09.960 --> 0:58:13.920
<v Speaker 1>your ass outside and gonna play. Get from around grown folks. Right,

0:58:14.680 --> 0:58:18.640
<v Speaker 1>mom is making uh, you know, the fry on on Saturdays.

0:58:19.040 --> 0:58:23.320
<v Speaker 1>You're cooking all that stuff. Keeno, right, said all of

0:58:23.400 --> 0:58:26.200
<v Speaker 1>that stuff. That's how I grew up. And so for me,

0:58:26.440 --> 0:58:29.840
<v Speaker 1>when you man sixteen years old, what I heard on

0:58:29.920 --> 0:58:34.000
<v Speaker 1>the in the card table. Yeah, as a football player,

0:58:34.040 --> 0:58:38.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm like I'm not trash talking, this is playing. This

0:58:38.800 --> 0:58:40.520
<v Speaker 1>is just what it is. And and so I'm from

0:58:40.600 --> 0:58:45.480
<v Speaker 1>a huge family of sixty but we talked. It's some stuff.

0:58:45.520 --> 0:58:51.720
<v Speaker 1>It's like I thought we was family exactly. And and

0:58:51.920 --> 0:58:54.560
<v Speaker 1>so it's like a great example and what I mean

0:58:54.640 --> 0:58:59.240
<v Speaker 1>by race. There's friends of mine that I know. And

0:58:59.400 --> 0:59:06.240
<v Speaker 1>you don't put fish on the grill, you don't grill,

0:59:07.320 --> 0:59:11.880
<v Speaker 1>you barbecue, just little things like that that when I

0:59:12.000 --> 0:59:15.120
<v Speaker 1>grew up, that that's how it was. I experienced that

0:59:15.600 --> 0:59:19.560
<v Speaker 1>ten at five years old, six years old, ten years old, twelve,

0:59:20.080 --> 0:59:22.200
<v Speaker 1>twenty to now where now it's like, you know, I'm

0:59:22.240 --> 0:59:25.600
<v Speaker 1>at the house and it's the family. We're playing cars

0:59:25.640 --> 0:59:27.560
<v Speaker 1>and I always you know, my kids were over this Sunday,

0:59:27.760 --> 0:59:34.400
<v Speaker 1>was playing nerves, hilarious. We're talking about everything. Nothing is

0:59:34.520 --> 0:59:40.080
<v Speaker 1>off the table with family, talking cards. And so now

0:59:40.240 --> 0:59:43.920
<v Speaker 1>you add that I can do that against strangers on

0:59:44.000 --> 0:59:51.040
<v Speaker 1>a football field, zero regard for your field because I

0:59:51.560 --> 0:59:54.760
<v Speaker 1>learned it from my grandma. I've seen my grandma dog

0:59:54.960 --> 1:00:00.320
<v Speaker 1>cuss my mama. And I'm just like reading like it's

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<v Speaker 1>just coming back from you know, from the archives. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just pulling from the archives. Yeah, So and that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I say it was a racist statement, just more of

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<v Speaker 1>that was the way I grew up. And it's more

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<v Speaker 1>of a cultural thing, right, And I know it's cultural

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<v Speaker 1>because my wife sometimes she said, great example, my mama

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<v Speaker 1>told my daughter at the time Bailey is twenty years old, now,

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<v Speaker 1>my daughter was eight years old. She went in tattletale

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<v Speaker 1>on her big brother. When know, my mama told my

1:00:34.480 --> 1:00:39.000
<v Speaker 1>daughter at eight, you read it, don't be no snitch.

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<v Speaker 1>Snitches get stitches, mama, she ate, she went on, but

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<v Speaker 1>just that statement at for eight year old, Like my

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<v Speaker 1>mom was like, you can't tell eight year old that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm going, yes, Mom, you can't. Yeah, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>so that's what I mean, And that's why it's just

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<v Speaker 1>it was just a different sort of certain set of

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<v Speaker 1>circumstances back in the day. We all can recite that

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<v Speaker 1>that we all got that uncor and that when they

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<v Speaker 1>come to the family union or some family function day,

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<v Speaker 1>the ring ligature of trouble day, the ring leader of

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<v Speaker 1>alcoholic activities facts right, or or you got that ring

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<v Speaker 1>leader of food. But just that family dynamic, everybody hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>you got that? You got that still? Do you know?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you gotta uncle pe nut, you're going to my

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<v Speaker 1>mom's exactly. You'd be looking forward to those un you know, Georgia,

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<v Speaker 1>check out the world. Yeah, it's just a cultural thing. Yeah. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, Jonathan, Mike Man, thank you guys for being

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