WEBVTT - Building Your Village

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<v Speaker 1>Hi everybody, and welcome back to Katie's Crib. I am

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<v Speaker 1>so excited for this episode. Um. We are talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the village that it takes to raise your baby. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know a lot on this podcast we have talked

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<v Speaker 1>about your community, your family, your friends, the people who

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<v Speaker 1>are there for you during pregnancy, after pregnancy, when you're

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<v Speaker 1>raising this kid. Um, it's friends, it's specialists. It's maybe

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<v Speaker 1>an O, B G. I n It's maybe a doula.

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<v Speaker 1>It's maybe electation consultant. Maybe it's a nanny or babysitter,

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<v Speaker 1>you get it. The list is endless. But my question

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<v Speaker 1>for you is what happens after the first few months?

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<v Speaker 1>How can you keep this? You know, the sense of community,

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<v Speaker 1>the sense of village going. Who do you call for support?

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<v Speaker 1>Who are the people you go and talk with? Who

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<v Speaker 1>are the people you laugh with? Who are the people

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<v Speaker 1>you cry with? Um? And to talk about my village,

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<v Speaker 1>I've invited for men of my village who are here

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<v Speaker 1>with me today, and I'm so excited guys meet members

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<v Speaker 1>of my village. Um. We have Andela cabral Hi. Yeah, Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>we have the wonderful Katie Davis. Hi. I'm far tell

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<v Speaker 1>everybody where you're from Katie Davis from Dublin. Yeah, then

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<v Speaker 1>we have Laura Man hello, and then we have Amy

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<v Speaker 1>Rosof Davis. Um, so we have four girls here. We

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<v Speaker 1>are a member of a group that on our text

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<v Speaker 1>chain is called swim How many are there eight or

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<v Speaker 1>nine of us? I always get confused. I know there's

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<v Speaker 1>at least there's eight, and then there's definitely eight. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a rogue nine, remember I think my ten. Yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 1>about ten of us. Uh, there's even an eleven because

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<v Speaker 1>Jen Jenen, who you've heard from, is offshooting, so that's

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<v Speaker 1>maybe eleven. There's Dennicut, there's twelve. There's a lot of us. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's twelve babies. So I think there's twelve babies. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've got members of Swim Club. And the reason

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<v Speaker 1>it's called swim Club is because, um, when I found

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<v Speaker 1>out I was pregnant, these twelve women were circling my

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<v Speaker 1>life in different spheres of my life. They were also pregnant.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not like we talked to each other, the

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<v Speaker 1>twelve of us, and all decided to get pregnant the

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<v Speaker 1>same time. No, no, no, there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>these women. These wonderful women who had miscarriages rounds of

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<v Speaker 1>IVF got pregnant on the first try. There are all

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<v Speaker 1>different varying degrees and journeys and stories of how these

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<v Speaker 1>women came to be pregnant. But for some amazing reason,

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<v Speaker 1>the twelve of them me included, got pregnant around the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, within about a three month period. Um. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I would have water aerobics in my pool for

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<v Speaker 1>these uh twelve women, and so we are now called

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<v Speaker 1>swim club. It's not, it's really not. It's very literal. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But what's cool about the village and swim Club is

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<v Speaker 1>that the women, um all didn't know each other, like

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<v Speaker 1>every woman at the table, and we're going to let

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<v Speaker 1>them all with everyone's gonna have their turn to talk,

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<v Speaker 1>but just quickly. Like Angelie Cabral and I, we are

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<v Speaker 1>actors and we had been circling each other in auditions

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<v Speaker 1>for years. Katie Davis, her husband and my husband went

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<v Speaker 1>to University of Maryland together. Laura Man worked on a

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<v Speaker 1>theater company show you Guys, No Shout Out. I Am

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<v Speaker 1>a Theater Company. Uh. She is a member of I

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<v Speaker 1>Am a Theater Company and Amy Rosa and I go

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<v Speaker 1>way way back and have been best seed since we

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<v Speaker 1>were seventeen. So it's and then the other members are

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<v Speaker 1>friends of friends and Cabral brought in Hannah Simone who

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<v Speaker 1>just showed up at my house and I've never met

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<v Speaker 1>her before and now she's part of Swim Club. Their

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<v Speaker 1>makeup artists, there's a comedy writer, there's there's like all

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<v Speaker 1>different women, summer stay at home moms, summer full time

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<v Speaker 1>working moms, um and it has been truly I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna cry, no, I'm already bawling. Has definitely been one

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<v Speaker 1>of the greatest joys of my life has to to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to be a mom and not be alone.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we are thought it would be very important

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<v Speaker 1>and cool to have an episode talking about how you

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<v Speaker 1>could maybe build one for yourself and why this might

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<v Speaker 1>be a value for you in your journey of being

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<v Speaker 1>a mom, and why it might be cool to find

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<v Speaker 1>your own text chain of moms, why that might be

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<v Speaker 1>helpful to you, and if you don't have that, how

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<v Speaker 1>you can get something like it, and how that might

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<v Speaker 1>be something that could be cool. Um. So I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to throw this out to Katie Davis. When you hear

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<v Speaker 1>the phrase, it takes a village. What do you think of? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I think of women years ago and a hush and

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<v Speaker 1>like your aunt and your second calls and twice removed,

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<v Speaker 1>and the cat and everybody just in there helping you

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<v Speaker 1>and making your food and boobs coming out and just

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<v Speaker 1>it all being really natural. And I think the same thing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's likely. I just think, yeah, yeah, when when the

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<v Speaker 1>women came together, you feel like our village is far

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<v Speaker 1>off from that and there's no cat, but no, it's

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<v Speaker 1>something yet that I feel is missing, especially being a

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<v Speaker 1>foreign person in a new country. So family, there's just

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<v Speaker 1>no knowledge of actual blood family. But yeah, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I think of, just and and there being no nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to be afraid of or or no hiding or shame.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just we're all here and we're all in it together,

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<v Speaker 1>and like if you're going through with someone else has

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<v Speaker 1>gone through, right. I have to say I felt very

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<v Speaker 1>we know, and I've talked about on this podcast before

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<v Speaker 1>how much of a phobia labor was for me. And

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<v Speaker 1>I have to say, I think in the lineup of

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<v Speaker 1>the twelve babies, I think my son is like second

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<v Speaker 1>to last or something. And I went into that labor

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<v Speaker 1>and getting this kid out, knowing that you guys had

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<v Speaker 1>all done it before me and that I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to live and that was a huge source of To

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<v Speaker 1>see it in real time was very um I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>so emotional, but it was very um reassuring, wasn't it?

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<v Speaker 1>Which one of us kind of we could be going

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<v Speaker 1>back to the swim club. We had those like maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you'll speak on this, I don't know, but like how

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<v Speaker 1>every week we would lose one of us to go

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<v Speaker 1>up the baby, like there was one every week, Like

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<v Speaker 1>there was less and less women pregnant in the swim club,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was so kind of reassuring to know that

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<v Speaker 1>we everyone had a different birst story. Everything was different,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing was the same. A lot of plans did not

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<v Speaker 1>go as planned, and everyone was fine and the babies

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<v Speaker 1>were even even when we had a scare. Oh yeah right,

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<v Speaker 1>And we learned by watching and by observing that. So

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<v Speaker 1>it made us all feel I think, very confident going

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<v Speaker 1>into birth. Has the idea of community changed from before

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<v Speaker 1>and after pregnancy and now that you have adelaide, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. I would say that, Um, I didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>any pregnant friends before I met this crew, So for me,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm going to be alone being pregnant,

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<v Speaker 1>and then, thank God, by a miracle, we got I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how, I don't even remember now, but well,

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<v Speaker 1>you tell me you were pregnant, and I knew I

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<v Speaker 1>was pregnant, but I wasn't telling anybody, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>holy crap, I'm like a week month, right, and you

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<v Speaker 1>just told me you're twelve weeks pregnant and in a

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<v Speaker 1>week and we had sort of known each other but

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<v Speaker 1>not and I remember that and I knew you were

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<v Speaker 1>but I couldn't tell you, and you were like and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I was pregnant, and I knew you

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<v Speaker 1>were pregnant by the way you were acting, And you

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<v Speaker 1>knew I was pregnant. Well, yeah, because we drink guys,

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<v Speaker 1>You're always a tell tale. But nobody was telling Kennan.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to do a scene on that I am

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<v Speaker 1>a twenty three It's twenty three hour play festival, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was showing pregnant and she was pregnant for not

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<v Speaker 1>telling anyone. And in the scene, obviously we had a

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<v Speaker 1>comment on me being pregnant, but the whole time I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, she's pregnant, right. I feel like our husbands

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<v Speaker 1>had told each other they did pregnant before. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's always something whenever I found out that people are pregnant. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I always say, oh, just hold on. If you don't

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know yet who you're walking this fire with,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you don't know that someone's going to come out

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<v Speaker 1>of the woodwork. Who's a friend of a friend of

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<v Speaker 1>a friend who might be a month behind you or

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<v Speaker 1>two months behind you, And if you just like stretch

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<v Speaker 1>out an arm, you could really go through this thing together. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But like when you said community, I just think that

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<v Speaker 1>now my sense of community is very different because now

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<v Speaker 1>it's only that, like it's this is the only community

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<v Speaker 1>I care about. It's like where is my kid going

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<v Speaker 1>to be? Who's going to be around my kid? And

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<v Speaker 1>and who knows what I'm going through? And and that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I think. I didn't have that before. I didn't before. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about this text chain because I

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<v Speaker 1>think that that is something that's super accessible to other women.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I feel like if you're in a Mommy and me,

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<v Speaker 1>or if you're in some sort of class, let's say,

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<v Speaker 1>and you could easily volunteer, Like why don't we all

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<v Speaker 1>get on a text chain or something, or maybe if

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<v Speaker 1>you're not able to take classes and you feel isolated.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm just trying to really figure out how women

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<v Speaker 1>everywhere could get this, because I feel like when we

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<v Speaker 1>can talk more about the benefits of having a mom crew,

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<v Speaker 1>but there are true, true benefits to having a mom crew.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, like let's give examples of like how like

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<v Speaker 1>a day on the life of the swim club text

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<v Speaker 1>Chaine goes. Usually it's about something that one of us

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<v Speaker 1>discovered or has a question about, and then it's a

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<v Speaker 1>riff on that, like you Amy Davis gave us a

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<v Speaker 1>great breakdown about food that's a big topic for us,

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<v Speaker 1>which and look, every kid and parent and is different

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<v Speaker 1>depending on what your doctor said or you want to

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<v Speaker 1>feed them, or if you have dietary stuff. But I

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<v Speaker 1>my child happens to be the oldest or second oldest

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<v Speaker 1>in the group. So I just went through it first

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<v Speaker 1>of I said, this is what I did and work

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<v Speaker 1>for me, and if it works for you, great, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you know. But yeah, it's a lot of love questions,

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of Amazon send links, Katie Davis send links,

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<v Speaker 1>like people will post like this is a toy that

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<v Speaker 1>my kid is obsessed with right now that's literally on sale,

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<v Speaker 1>or they'll be like Carter's, you guys, it's having a

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<v Speaker 1>pair of fifteen socks is two dollars, and all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, we're all doing that. But it were like

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that seems insurmountable. Remember when when we all thought

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<v Speaker 1>getting a passport was going to be like going to

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to go to Van Eye's, We've got to

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<v Speaker 1>strap on a bulletproof, a joke of wine. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I discovered from somebody outside of our group, oh, you

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<v Speaker 1>can just make an appointment. You can drive up, and

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<v Speaker 1>like it's now all twelve of us have made appointments

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<v Speaker 1>in Burbank and we got our passports in ten minutes, right, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah. So like stuff like that, you go, oh great, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's there, We're doing everything for the first time,

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<v Speaker 1>and it all seems overwhelming until you've done at once.

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<v Speaker 1>And you don't want to Google. I would say that, like,

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<v Speaker 1>just in general, stay away from Google. It's just too

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<v Speaker 1>confusing and I'm often scary. Yeah yeah, I feel the

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<v Speaker 1>same way I before. I don't like to be a

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<v Speaker 1>big Google searcher, and now I go to swim club

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<v Speaker 1>text this morning, I was you know, I was very

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<v Speaker 1>curious about which moms had started cereals for their kids, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because again, i'll be just started eating solid foods two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago, and he's done some fruits and vegetables. So

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<v Speaker 1>I replied to the swim club saying, who's done oatmeal?

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<v Speaker 1>Text me individually, let me know if you have or

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<v Speaker 1>haven't done it, what are your thoughts on it? And

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<v Speaker 1>then then I usually take the consensus of the group.

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<v Speaker 1>I think on it for a couple of days, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I come to my own decision, which is gratefully

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<v Speaker 1>because you're all amazing supported by my group. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>can I say. Support is That's the other thing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not just baby questions. But even last week this came

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<v Speaker 1>up because a lot of us are working moms, and

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<v Speaker 1>even ones that aren't. You know, it's just challenging and hard.

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<v Speaker 1>It's being a mom and and having your life change

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<v Speaker 1>with this amazing new creature and having each other for

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<v Speaker 1>support on that. Even if one day someone's like, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel so sad. I haven't seen my kids today.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been working for twelve hours. There's all these women

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<v Speaker 1>that are like, who sent that text a mom, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm if I'm at home, I feel like I'm failing

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<v Speaker 1>not putting an offen you into work. And when I'm

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<v Speaker 1>at work, I feel like I'm failing because I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>putting an off energy into my child. And I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we all just went to you. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you're talking about, but that's something that we

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<v Speaker 1>all definitely we were always feeling like guilty about something

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<v Speaker 1>and then you're like, I don't think that ever ends,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think you're just like a mom, So you're

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<v Speaker 1>just always guilty about something now. And that also ties

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<v Speaker 1>into community and village because it's like it's not just

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<v Speaker 1>our kids, like this is a group of women that's

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<v Speaker 1>like you're alive every day and you're keeping people alive

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<v Speaker 1>and you're awesome. I remember those first like the first month,

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<v Speaker 1>when we were all up in the middle of the

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<v Speaker 1>night and just being so grateful for the support. None

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<v Speaker 1>of us knew what we were doing yet because it

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<v Speaker 1>was so early on, and I remember Angelie and I

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<v Speaker 1>would text each other and be like, who's up. It's

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<v Speaker 1>when It's when I am, And then we would go

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<v Speaker 1>to bed after feeding our babies and then at four

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<v Speaker 1>am we'd all be like, hey, who's up and just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of having that you know, yeah, my I remember

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<v Speaker 1>you were alone the first fever albe had. I called

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<v Speaker 1>Amy Rose of Davis and Laura Man first, because the

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<v Speaker 1>other thing that's really cool about having a mom group, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll get into what's what can be challenging about

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<v Speaker 1>a mom group is that everyone's going to raise their

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<v Speaker 1>baby differently. There are some people that are into sliem trading,

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<v Speaker 1>there are some people who are into on demand. There

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<v Speaker 1>are some moms who are very fluid with attachment or

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I like to say, really hippie moms,

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<v Speaker 1>which I love. And then there are moms who are

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<v Speaker 1>super regimented and really tough love like, and we have

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<v Speaker 1>them all in this too, v degrees of smothering styles, um,

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<v Speaker 1>which is wonderful. Because my kid had a fever. And

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<v Speaker 1>I called Laura Man because Laura Man, I know, has

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<v Speaker 1>read a million books about giving your baby titlan all,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wanted to know. I wanted to do the

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<v Speaker 1>cliff notes version of that. I didn't know why or

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<v Speaker 1>why it would be bad or whatever. And I took

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<v Speaker 1>all of Laura Man's information and then I called my

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<v Speaker 1>friend Amy Rose so Davis, who has the oldest kid

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<v Speaker 1>in the group, and I know she's given her talent,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wanted to know how Ellie reacted to how

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<v Speaker 1>did the fever go down? And then I called my pediatrician.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a hierarchy, Like that's yeah, there's a hierarchy,

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<v Speaker 1>lawn everyone. But what's great is that each instead of

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<v Speaker 1>finding what's different about us being an issue, what's different

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<v Speaker 1>about us is actually our greatest asset. And that's because

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<v Speaker 1>I can get a lot of different opinions that are

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<v Speaker 1>working for them and then really assess what works for

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<v Speaker 1>me and my family. But I love getting multiple ideas

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<v Speaker 1>and just learning about the different subjects and topics because

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<v Speaker 1>I really truly respect how you all are doing it, um,

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<v Speaker 1>even though they're not all the same as you. So

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<v Speaker 1>has anyone here in this group found that any there

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<v Speaker 1>are any online communities that you guys are using, or

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<v Speaker 1>any websites or I've definitely got an app. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna say, I like, there's an app that I love,

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<v Speaker 1>um wonder Weeks that I find that really helpful for

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<v Speaker 1>her developmental they call leaps. But like whenever she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>there's something I can't crack. Like if she's like usually

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<v Speaker 1>I unders understand her behavior. It's usually a diaper, she's hungry.

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<v Speaker 1>But if there's something that's like gnawing at her, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a great app I find it a great resource to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you exactly developmentally what's going on in her brain

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<v Speaker 1>which affects her behavior directly because they're growing, they're learning there,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, expanding. And it's cool because they you can

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<v Speaker 1>attach it to your calendar, so it'll tell you in

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<v Speaker 1>your iPhone calendar saying Sullivan is entering leap his brain

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<v Speaker 1>just woke up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, accurate. They take it

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<v Speaker 1>from your Jude days rather Yeah, it's when you have it,

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<v Speaker 1>but you have to take it with a grain of

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<v Speaker 1>salt because it will say, oh, she's having a stormy period,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, she's fine, supposed to be stormy at

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning. That's what I did, and then I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>she's supposed to be fine and stormy. Right. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>like everything though, it should be taken just like Katie

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<v Speaker 1>just said, not just with a grain of salt. But

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<v Speaker 1>you have to do what's best for you. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>like you take what you will from that app, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you say, okay, well I'm not gonna take any

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<v Speaker 1>other apps people are using. I mean I just use

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<v Speaker 1>glow for breastfeeding. Ye as well, that was a good breastfeeding.

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<v Speaker 1>Are there any are you guys in any online communities?

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<v Speaker 1>Are there? Facebook? I've heard friends, mom this one called

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<v Speaker 1>l A. It's called like l A. Mommy's yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>got some fie million mom. Or I find it overwhelming

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<v Speaker 1>and very alarmist, which I have no tolerance for. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's seeming like of the five of us that we

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<v Speaker 1>are really finding the most help from the village. We're

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<v Speaker 1>raising our baby with more of a very personal local village.

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<v Speaker 1>Because so by the way, guys, listeners, I like our

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<v Speaker 1>village is very locally based. We don't live far away.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you had to move ten minutes away. She

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<v Speaker 1>needed to be I think I think that people listening.

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<v Speaker 1>I think having a community is more important than having none.

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<v Speaker 1>Most importantly, so if you live in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>nowhere and there are no places for you except an

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<v Speaker 1>online situation, get on that. But just no grain of salt.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of them can be alarmist sometimes, or you

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<v Speaker 1>just have to sort of like going to the park

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<v Speaker 1>is a great thing. I mean, I was at the

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<v Speaker 1>park the other week and we always text each other first,

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<v Speaker 1>or like, anyone want to go to the park, but

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<v Speaker 1>no one could go that day, and I wound up

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<v Speaker 1>standing next to a mom who her kid was on

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<v Speaker 1>the swing to and we started chatting. I did not

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<v Speaker 1>get her number because I was like, I already have

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<v Speaker 1>a swim club, but if I had, but she was

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<v Speaker 1>so nice and I was like, if I didn't have anyone,

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<v Speaker 1>the park is a great option, and classes are great options.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is the app. So on top of swim

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<v Speaker 1>Club text chain, which thank you iPhone or whatever phone,

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<v Speaker 1>you can do a group texting on any phone, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I think? So yeah, I'm like, we just happen to

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<v Speaker 1>have iPhone so it's easy. So it's blue, but you

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<v Speaker 1>can do it on anything, I think. Okay. So so okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're talking group text chains is really important. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's also this app called Marco Polo um that can

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<v Speaker 1>we call Marco Polo and a sponsor what you need

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<v Speaker 1>to say what we call us? So ours is called

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<v Speaker 1>Marco Holo, which is who create who's snecky that? So

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<v Speaker 1>Marco Polo was is an app where you can leave.

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<v Speaker 1>You can have all twelve people and they leave video

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<v Speaker 1>messages for each other. And why it's helpful is because

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes when you have mombring and you can't look at

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<v Speaker 1>eighty thousand texts from twelve women who are hormonal and

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<v Speaker 1>it's great. Sometimes Amy will just send a text, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't explain all the food stuff on text. Just

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<v Speaker 1>check out my whole low and then actually Amy will

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<v Speaker 1>walk us through. I did this food first, then this

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<v Speaker 1>food first, and this first. You could even show the frigerator.

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<v Speaker 1>You could show yourself cooking it. You could show what

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<v Speaker 1>the brand is of the best puade peach, you like,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it is. But it's very helpful. Um Becky Todd

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<v Speaker 1>has how to use an anal thermometer with and then

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<v Speaker 1>everyone freaked out about the rectal thermometer. So then I

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<v Speaker 1>got on the Marco poland was like, look, guys, the

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<v Speaker 1>rectal thermometer is only the size of like my it's

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<v Speaker 1>half of my piggy nail, Like he can't feel it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fine. Because everyone was freaking out about the rectal thermometer.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I went out and bought the rectal thermometer.

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<v Speaker 1>Did I use it, but I was scared before then,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I was the same thing. I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>the group uses it, it doesn't And the first thing,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah no. And the first thing you're done, pediatrician is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna ask if your kid has a fever. They're going

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<v Speaker 1>to say, well, did you take a rectal thermometer? It's

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<v Speaker 1>the only one that actually matters. Is there any other

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<v Speaker 1>examples of how market mark I did solar demage ration,

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<v Speaker 1>breast pump ones. I remember like, oh, you helped me

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<v Speaker 1>so much to do a hand pump hand pump. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, do not show this to anyone, but we

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<v Speaker 1>just took my clothes off our Marco Polos are usually like, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I slipped it in private. I've got a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>private Marco Polos where Laura Man has showed me how

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<v Speaker 1>to use a handpump. I very much appreciated that. Yeah, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>the Medella handpump that you actually like pump with your hand.

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<v Speaker 1>I never I always try just in case my pump

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<v Speaker 1>gives out or something. I don't want to be stranded,

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<v Speaker 1>so I always travel things. I have learned that as well,

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<v Speaker 1>you should always travel handpump in case your electricity is

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<v Speaker 1>out or something that I also thought it was very helpful,

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<v Speaker 1>like when there are moms in our groups, some are breastfeeding,

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<v Speaker 1>some are not, and I think it's been very helpful

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<v Speaker 1>to go through that journey with the mom's. The hormonal

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<v Speaker 1>drop offs have been insane. Um, I know you guys, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead of me. I'm sorry. I said that one

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<v Speaker 1>week when I when I weaned, where I broke down

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<v Speaker 1>crying on it. Yeah. Oh yeah, you had a huge

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<v Speaker 1>emotional breakdown on Marco Polo. Guys, Marco Polo is great.

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<v Speaker 1>You lost your mind on Marktolo is great. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, I stopped breastfeeding, that's I'm like losing it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And I appreciated that honesty so much because I was

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<v Speaker 1>connecting with it and just to see somebody else going

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<v Speaker 1>through it, You're like, I'm not alone. Thanks for being honest.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's so important too, because it's so easy

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<v Speaker 1>as moms, you know, when you're just like casual friends

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<v Speaker 1>people to be like everything is great, it's very you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't sleep, it's very And I feel like that's such

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<v Speaker 1>a good point because I feel like we're all very honest. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about losing our hair. Yeah today our other

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<v Speaker 1>friends showing like the biggest bald spot on the side

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<v Speaker 1>because you are horrific. Yeah yeah, Um. I think these

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<v Speaker 1>are the two biggest and why I'm so excited to

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<v Speaker 1>have you guys on is I think like the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>themes we've been seeing in in the this season of

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<v Speaker 1>Katie's Crib is that one it really does take a

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<v Speaker 1>village two make sure you are healthy with yourself, of mind, body, spirit,

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<v Speaker 1>and your baby and raising them. But the other one,

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<v Speaker 1>which you just touched on, is the representative mom you're

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<v Speaker 1>putting out in the world and really what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that there are a lot of pressures

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<v Speaker 1>and insecurities with being a mom, being around other moms,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it can get competitive, it can get surface,

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<v Speaker 1>which just makes you more tired. Let's be honest. So

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<v Speaker 1>do you guys feel any pressure or insecurities when you're

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<v Speaker 1>in a group with other moms and even swim club?

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<v Speaker 1>Like talk about swim club. We'll talk about what has

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<v Speaker 1>been brought up for you and why having a village

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<v Speaker 1>of moms. We've talked about why it's great, but let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about why it's hard or things for other women

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<v Speaker 1>to look out for when they're in a group of

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<v Speaker 1>moms and how like, let's get a little bit on

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think that the number one thing that's

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<v Speaker 1>always happens is there's two things that get competitive. How

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<v Speaker 1>your child is developing quickly or not, like the milestones,

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<v Speaker 1>and then how you are physically bouncing back, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>a bottom line, Like that's all you ever think about

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<v Speaker 1>and compare yourself to when you've just had a baby.

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<v Speaker 1>And some women bounce right back, some women don't, bottom line,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that for new moms who are listening

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<v Speaker 1>to this or people out there who just had babies, like,

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<v Speaker 1>don't compare yourself, Like I know it's impossible, but literally

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<v Speaker 1>every person's body reacts differently when you have a child,

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<v Speaker 1>and every baby is different and they're going to do

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<v Speaker 1>things on their own time, So don't look at the

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<v Speaker 1>other babies because they're not yours. Well and along the

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<v Speaker 1>same lines is then, like I never knew what a

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<v Speaker 1>percentile was, but if you line up your baby one

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<v Speaker 1>to a hundred, say, you know, like, for example, my

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<v Speaker 1>child's third percent which my husband gets mad that I

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<v Speaker 1>ever say that because it doesn't matter. But she's small,

0:23:53.520 --> 0:23:55.800
<v Speaker 1>so out of a hundred babies, she's the third smallest.

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<v Speaker 1>That is. That is an insecurity for you. So when

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<v Speaker 1>you measure her on monkst Our twelve babies and she's

0:24:01.880 --> 0:24:04.800
<v Speaker 1>at her age, you get insecure about her size. And

0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:08.760
<v Speaker 1>everyone's got their thing. That's right. Like like Albie just

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<v Speaker 1>rolled over two days ago. He's almost seven months old.

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<v Speaker 1>He is the last of the Albi. When you listen

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<v Speaker 1>to this when you're sixteen, I love you so much.

0:24:18.119 --> 0:24:20.800
<v Speaker 1>You're the last. All the four month old kids in

0:24:20.800 --> 0:24:23.959
<v Speaker 1>our group have rolled over before. You know that Adlie

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have teeth yet. That's how I'm What can I

0:24:27.600 --> 0:24:30.879
<v Speaker 1>tell you? My husband's favorite thing. My husband's just a messer.

0:24:31.040 --> 0:24:35.240
<v Speaker 1>His favorite thing is when people are talking milestones. He's like, yeah, yeah,

0:24:35.320 --> 0:24:38.440
<v Speaker 1>do you know when you crawled over? Were rolled over? Crawled? No?

0:24:38.600 --> 0:24:41.840
<v Speaker 1>Are you fine? Are you a functioning adult? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>poop on the potty? And everything? Everybody he just goes,

0:24:47.040 --> 0:24:50.399
<v Speaker 1>this is ridiculous. Why are we putting ourselves through this?

0:24:50.480 --> 0:24:52.199
<v Speaker 1>Like who gives a ship? I mean, I think the

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<v Speaker 1>best answers like just don't participate in any right. But

0:24:55.280 --> 0:24:58.240
<v Speaker 1>he just likes to make fun when people are doing

0:24:58.720 --> 0:25:01.560
<v Speaker 1>we're pretty good at No. One. No, I don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>that at all, but I do feel like I worry

0:25:04.240 --> 0:25:06.320
<v Speaker 1>sometimes It's not competitive. I have a worry because my

0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:08.400
<v Speaker 1>kid's the oldest way, or even I'm like, oh, did

0:25:08.440 --> 0:25:11.960
<v Speaker 1>I do that wrong? Because you guys are so well researched,

0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:15.040
<v Speaker 1>and like even like we're talking abo vaccinations and Laura's

0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:18.520
<v Speaker 1>like the vaccination queen, and you were like, don't get

0:25:18.560 --> 0:25:20.479
<v Speaker 1>to vaccinations at the same time, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, did she always gets? So you know,

0:25:22.359 --> 0:25:24.760
<v Speaker 1>it's so I sometimes I have a backtrack freaking out

0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:29.080
<v Speaker 1>because and you as a trail everybody in the back. Yeah,

0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:31.040
<v Speaker 1>I know, you go to Laura Man. I guess Laura

0:25:31.040 --> 0:25:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Man just told you everybody's fine. Everybody's fine. How do

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<v Speaker 1>you feel about it, Katy Davis? Like and insecurities that

0:25:39.880 --> 0:25:42.120
<v Speaker 1>come up about being in a group of moms. Yeah,

0:25:42.160 --> 0:25:46.320
<v Speaker 1>it's just that sometimes there's so many opinions and I

0:25:46.440 --> 0:25:50.320
<v Speaker 1>and I and I sometimes envy maybe even just my

0:25:50.400 --> 0:25:53.600
<v Speaker 1>mom's generation. Of course that was probably more loneliness, but

0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:57.080
<v Speaker 1>there was also just maybe a little bit more contentedness

0:25:57.160 --> 0:26:01.920
<v Speaker 1>because because you didn't your decision and you and there

0:26:01.920 --> 0:26:05.120
<v Speaker 1>you go because because we have access to so much

0:26:05.160 --> 0:26:08.560
<v Speaker 1>information that's sometimes it could just get really noisy, and

0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:11.080
<v Speaker 1>I love that. And also that leads me to the

0:26:11.119 --> 0:26:14.480
<v Speaker 1>social media aspect of it, not necessarily within our group,

0:26:14.720 --> 0:26:18.000
<v Speaker 1>but the competition out there with like you post a

0:26:18.040 --> 0:26:20.040
<v Speaker 1>picture of your baby and how he likes it again,

0:26:20.040 --> 0:26:23.080
<v Speaker 1>and it's a weird. It's a weird thing with other

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<v Speaker 1>moms that I have known, not in the swim club,

0:26:25.920 --> 0:26:28.840
<v Speaker 1>but like, like, I don't know how I feel about it,

0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:31.040
<v Speaker 1>but we keep saying, like why do we keep saying that,

0:26:31.200 --> 0:26:33.320
<v Speaker 1>like not in the swim because we don't really get

0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:38.960
<v Speaker 1>because I want if I could give that, I want

0:26:39.000 --> 0:26:42.920
<v Speaker 1>to know why because no one's a threat or we've

0:26:42.960 --> 0:26:45.280
<v Speaker 1>been through maybe because we've been through it since before

0:26:45.400 --> 0:26:48.359
<v Speaker 1>we had the babies we were pregnant together, we've seen

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<v Speaker 1>are the complete transition into motherhood. Is that another group

0:26:51.920 --> 0:26:55.000
<v Speaker 1>of um two of my best friends from my childhood

0:26:55.080 --> 0:26:57.600
<v Speaker 1>were pregnant at the same time as me, and we

0:26:57.680 --> 0:26:59.600
<v Speaker 1>had babies in similar times. And we're in a text

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<v Speaker 1>hite a too. And we're also not competitive. I think

0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:07.919
<v Speaker 1>we are just all maybe nice people almost I don't know.

0:27:08.119 --> 0:27:11.240
<v Speaker 1>I think I have to also, can I mention Rebecca

0:27:11.720 --> 0:27:14.080
<v Speaker 1>of course, so we had the same duel, and that

0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:17.360
<v Speaker 1>was also a huge coincidence because we separately know each other.

0:27:17.720 --> 0:27:22.800
<v Speaker 1>And I'm knowing that she set the tone because she

0:27:22.920 --> 0:27:26.040
<v Speaker 1>was the one teaching also our aquerobics or whatever, and

0:27:26.080 --> 0:27:28.439
<v Speaker 1>I think she set a really healthy tone within our

0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:30.959
<v Speaker 1>group of people, maybe if you agree. And also we

0:27:30.960 --> 0:27:33.400
<v Speaker 1>were all taking her yoga class and it was really

0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:37.880
<v Speaker 1>encouraged to always check in and be very honest and

0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:41.960
<v Speaker 1>and like I'll still bump into women that were in

0:27:42.000 --> 0:27:44.280
<v Speaker 1>that yoga class who I won't necessarily be hugely close

0:27:44.320 --> 0:27:45.760
<v Speaker 1>to you, but I'll see them and go, oh my god,

0:27:45.800 --> 0:27:47.720
<v Speaker 1>how are you. That's your baby? Like I just met

0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:51.480
<v Speaker 1>one of them at swimming yoga class. That's really awesome.

0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:54.600
<v Speaker 1>And I think that, you know, as a leader, Rebecca

0:27:54.800 --> 0:27:58.760
<v Speaker 1>is just so inclusive and just embodies a village, Like

0:27:58.840 --> 0:28:01.479
<v Speaker 1>she has the ability to just bring people together, and

0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:05.960
<v Speaker 1>she's just a very calming influence. Calming that's what she

0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 1>meant to say. It was the talk of assuming this morning,

0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:18.199
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I don't know if that maybe had I

0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:21.679
<v Speaker 1>think it's because she makes us celebrate each other instead

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:28.199
<v Speaker 1>of coming like coming out of love always and no

0:28:28.240 --> 0:28:31.359
<v Speaker 1>matter what felt like a crisis, she was able to

0:28:31.440 --> 0:28:33.480
<v Speaker 1>just have a chance about it and kind of bring

0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:36.560
<v Speaker 1>it down. And she has so much experience and that's

0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:38.800
<v Speaker 1>very true. Yeah, So I don't know, how would what

0:28:38.880 --> 0:28:42.920
<v Speaker 1>would be your advice? Let's say, Laura Man, what would

0:28:42.920 --> 0:28:48.520
<v Speaker 1>be advice for new parents? Um who I don't know?

0:28:48.600 --> 0:28:50.680
<v Speaker 1>And we could all go around who might feel isolated

0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:54.480
<v Speaker 1>or where did they go? Like I just, I really

0:28:54.720 --> 0:28:56.880
<v Speaker 1>I have found this to be so helpful, and I

0:28:56.920 --> 0:28:59.800
<v Speaker 1>just I hope Katie's crib is helpful to moms and

0:29:00.000 --> 0:29:03.560
<v Speaker 1>oh I hope that they too can find a village

0:29:03.600 --> 0:29:06.240
<v Speaker 1>that can help them with their baby and finding motherhood

0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:09.440
<v Speaker 1>at all easier. I think the classes really are huge

0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:12.760
<v Speaker 1>getting out there and do some doing something like preno yoga,

0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:15.320
<v Speaker 1>even when you're pregnant. It's great. The earlier the better,

0:29:15.440 --> 0:29:17.800
<v Speaker 1>but afterwards you can do mommy and Me or something

0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:21.400
<v Speaker 1>like that. And I the one the cool thing about

0:29:21.480 --> 0:29:23.360
<v Speaker 1>kind of joining the club of having a baby or

0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:26.000
<v Speaker 1>being pregnant is that I feel like people are so

0:29:26.080 --> 0:29:29.400
<v Speaker 1>much more open to hanging out with new people, Like

0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:32.720
<v Speaker 1>in a yoga class. We're so right. It's like this

0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:35.239
<v Speaker 1>weird thing where because I I've gone to yoga at

0:29:35.240 --> 0:29:37.640
<v Speaker 1>the same place like every day for years. I see

0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:39.560
<v Speaker 1>the same people. We know each other. We don't really

0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:41.840
<v Speaker 1>even know each other's names. We never hang out after class,

0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:43.280
<v Speaker 1>even though a lot of times I want to. The

0:29:43.320 --> 0:29:46.040
<v Speaker 1>second I was in prenatal yoga, I swear, I just

0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:48.520
<v Speaker 1>you kind of say, if you have the courage to

0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:50.040
<v Speaker 1>just say, hey, do you want to get a coffee

0:29:50.040 --> 0:29:52.160
<v Speaker 1>after literally a d people are like, yes, please, I

0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:53.719
<v Speaker 1>need to talk about all this stuff that's going on.

0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:56.480
<v Speaker 1>So just know if you can take that first initiative,

0:29:56.760 --> 0:30:00.640
<v Speaker 1>which might be a little scary, you're like, sign they're

0:30:00.760 --> 0:30:03.440
<v Speaker 1>not going to get rejected by the other persons. Really

0:30:03.480 --> 0:30:06.560
<v Speaker 1>good advice. Yeah, just taking that step and knowing that

0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 1>people want it. And I think that when the women

0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:10.640
<v Speaker 1>make the connection, then the dads can kind of have

0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:13.959
<v Speaker 1>a connection to or if they have a you know

0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:17.080
<v Speaker 1>whoever their partner may or may not be. I also

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:20.080
<v Speaker 1>think a lot about we talked about this this single mom,

0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:25.320
<v Speaker 1>you know who I mean, you really need I mean again,

0:30:25.600 --> 0:30:28.320
<v Speaker 1>we're living in this time where this village idea is

0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:31.200
<v Speaker 1>so different than what it used to be. I mean,

0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:32.960
<v Speaker 1>we all collectively have the same idea of what it

0:30:33.000 --> 0:30:35.160
<v Speaker 1>takes a village means. So we're like women were in

0:30:35.200 --> 0:30:38.080
<v Speaker 1>a hut. Our boobs are out. I don't know why

0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:45.200
<v Speaker 1>we all feel that way. It's so weird, but you know,

0:30:45.240 --> 0:30:49.040
<v Speaker 1>I think about, um, I think about doing this all

0:30:49.040 --> 0:30:51.360
<v Speaker 1>by myself, Like I think about doing it without you girls.

0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 1>I think about doing it without Adam. I think about

0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:57.920
<v Speaker 1>doing it you know, anything like that. I think the

0:30:58.000 --> 0:31:01.959
<v Speaker 1>hardest thing is and even people who do have all

0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:05.680
<v Speaker 1>those things can feel very alone. So I think the

0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:09.320
<v Speaker 1>most important thing for everyone, I think, being pregnant or

0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:12.200
<v Speaker 1>or having a new baby, is to just take that risk,

0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:15.200
<v Speaker 1>to put themselves out there. As lame and corny as

0:31:15.280 --> 0:31:17.960
<v Speaker 1>that sounds, and it's hard. Now, it's hard. My my mom,

0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:20.240
<v Speaker 1>who's visiting right now, has said to me, she knows

0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:23.760
<v Speaker 1>all of you now very well with your mom, but

0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:26.400
<v Speaker 1>she said, like, you are so lucky to have that

0:31:26.480 --> 0:31:29.320
<v Speaker 1>group of women. My she sees it. She was alone.

0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:32.480
<v Speaker 1>She had me and was like divorced, single mom, and

0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:34.600
<v Speaker 1>she's like I had nothing, and you are, like that's

0:31:34.640 --> 0:31:37.239
<v Speaker 1>the most important takeaway. She's like, you're so lucky that

0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:40.360
<v Speaker 1>you have these social events and like you make time

0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:42.080
<v Speaker 1>for each other and you have each other to talk to.

0:31:42.160 --> 0:31:44.959
<v Speaker 1>It's great. It's also just such a big change in

0:31:45.000 --> 0:31:48.239
<v Speaker 1>your life to have to make a human and you know,

0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:51.240
<v Speaker 1>even just every evening is different if you're alone, if

0:31:51.280 --> 0:31:55.920
<v Speaker 1>you're with a partner anything, you are responsible for taking

0:31:55.960 --> 0:31:59.240
<v Speaker 1>care of a life, and that overwhelm and along with

0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:02.360
<v Speaker 1>all the response ability is a lot if you don't

0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:06.520
<v Speaker 1>have people to lean on for support and help and love. Yeah.

0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Also one thing, these classes can get super expensive and

0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 1>you do around a mommy and me and you're taking

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:14.880
<v Speaker 1>music class and you're like, I'm spending eight hundred dollars

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:18.520
<v Speaker 1>a month taking on and it doesn't matter, you know.

0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:20.960
<v Speaker 1>So maybe what you do, which I've done, is you

0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:23.120
<v Speaker 1>do one round a mommy and me. You make friends

0:32:23.160 --> 0:32:25.960
<v Speaker 1>with these girls, and then you set up your own

0:32:26.000 --> 0:32:28.920
<v Speaker 1>thing and you say, every single week, every Sunday, you know,

0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:30.880
<v Speaker 1>whoever can come, can come, but it's going to be

0:32:30.880 --> 0:32:32.840
<v Speaker 1>at noon. Someone's going to host it every Sunday, which

0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:34.480
<v Speaker 1>is kind of what we did, but I've started. I've

0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:36.640
<v Speaker 1>done it with some other classes too, and you just

0:32:36.720 --> 0:32:39.560
<v Speaker 1>hang out because like we were saying, it's all you

0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:42.280
<v Speaker 1>need to do is talk to each other and maybe like,

0:32:42.360 --> 0:32:44.400
<v Speaker 1>and you'll just tell each other what each other has done.

0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 1>You don't necessarily need a guided class for you know,

0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:49.600
<v Speaker 1>the first year of your pregnancy. Some people are back

0:32:49.600 --> 0:32:51.160
<v Speaker 1>to work and they don't even have the opportunity to

0:32:51.160 --> 0:32:54.440
<v Speaker 1>be able to do that. So you don't just set

0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:56.080
<v Speaker 1>it up and have it be a regular thing. You

0:32:56.120 --> 0:32:58.040
<v Speaker 1>bring up such a good point. We at at at

0:32:58.120 --> 0:33:09.120
<v Speaker 1>swim club. I mean we uh at swim club. We

0:33:09.120 --> 0:33:12.360
<v Speaker 1>we we we all had our babies and then we

0:33:12.480 --> 0:33:16.160
<v Speaker 1>all I as had a teacher come to our my

0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:18.720
<v Speaker 1>house on Sundays and I lead a class. It was fine.

0:33:19.400 --> 0:33:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Here's what we learned. We don't like it. We would

0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:27.040
<v Speaker 1>rather just hang out on Saturdays or Sundays with everyone

0:33:27.160 --> 0:33:33.240
<v Speaker 1>bringing a bottle, a snack or whatever and talking about

0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:36.800
<v Speaker 1>the things we're learning, and talking about the things that

0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:39.880
<v Speaker 1>were hard this week and really just being there for

0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:42.480
<v Speaker 1>each other. And that's how I learned like everything. And

0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:44.880
<v Speaker 1>also the babies love it. I mean this Sunday we

0:33:44.880 --> 0:33:47.200
<v Speaker 1>went to Jackie's. My child had the best time just

0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:49.720
<v Speaker 1>swimming in the pool with other babies. Like, we don't

0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:51.640
<v Speaker 1>have to pay for that. I do want to say

0:33:51.760 --> 0:33:55.600
<v Speaker 1>something that I have found really helpful is really making

0:33:55.600 --> 0:33:58.440
<v Speaker 1>an effort and it just happened organically for us too.

0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:02.160
<v Speaker 1>And this is getting really specific, but to have friends

0:34:02.200 --> 0:34:04.880
<v Speaker 1>with babies in and around the same age, just because

0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:08.200
<v Speaker 1>I've had a couple of friends who have a child

0:34:08.239 --> 0:34:11.360
<v Speaker 1>that's say, six months or a year older than mine,

0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:15.359
<v Speaker 1>and you just forget, like you forget what you were

0:34:15.400 --> 0:34:17.440
<v Speaker 1>going through. Like I'm trying to think of things to

0:34:17.440 --> 0:34:19.839
<v Speaker 1>tell my friend who's newly pregnant, I like, how can

0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:23.600
<v Speaker 1>I not remember? And it's because you know, I don't

0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:26.359
<v Speaker 1>remember when you're you're in it and then you're onto

0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:28.120
<v Speaker 1>the next thing. And I also think that's how we

0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:30.480
<v Speaker 1>continue to keep making babies because we don't remember it.

0:34:30.880 --> 0:34:34.040
<v Speaker 1>But like, I think there's really something to be said

0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:37.200
<v Speaker 1>for being within a few weeks or months of each other,

0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:39.560
<v Speaker 1>because you really are in the trenches together at the

0:34:39.600 --> 0:34:42.520
<v Speaker 1>same time with the same issues. I'm not saying that

0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:45.160
<v Speaker 1>you can't have friends that have, you know, kids of

0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:48.960
<v Speaker 1>all different ages, but there's just something about really going

0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:52.360
<v Speaker 1>through the same things at the same time. And I

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:54.680
<v Speaker 1>do think that that's maybe a good investment money wise

0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:55.960
<v Speaker 1>for a mommy and me class because a lot of

0:34:56.000 --> 0:35:00.600
<v Speaker 1>the time they'll be yeah, and so you'll you do

0:35:00.719 --> 0:35:04.440
<v Speaker 1>one round and then exactly right, because otherwise, like what

0:35:04.440 --> 0:35:07.520
<v Speaker 1>do you do your baby? And then take it on

0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:09.320
<v Speaker 1>and then take it on the road. And it's a

0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:12.239
<v Speaker 1>healthy at the beginning, I mean, especially if it's your

0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:15.239
<v Speaker 1>first time. The overwhelm is just so you know to

0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:17.799
<v Speaker 1>have one every week and be like, wait, is this

0:35:17.840 --> 0:35:23.160
<v Speaker 1>supposed to happen, rather than someone going oh, yeah, like

0:35:23.320 --> 0:35:27.240
<v Speaker 1>it's totally fine, it'll pass, but it doesn't feel like that, right.

0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:29.680
<v Speaker 1>So which I did two different I did two actually

0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:34.160
<v Speaker 1>different mommy and me's um before even you guys were

0:35:34.160 --> 0:35:36.799
<v Speaker 1>so pregnant because I was the first one up and

0:35:37.040 --> 0:35:39.960
<v Speaker 1>no before music. I did one in Beverly Hills and

0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:42.880
<v Speaker 1>then one in the valley and it was really helpful.

0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:45.759
<v Speaker 1>I didn't necessarily leave with a bond like we have

0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:47.880
<v Speaker 1>with any amount, but I learned stuff that helped me

0:35:47.920 --> 0:35:52.279
<v Speaker 1>get through that time that was very valuable. So this

0:35:52.360 --> 0:35:57.880
<v Speaker 1>is a really scary question. How are is this village

0:35:57.880 --> 0:35:59.560
<v Speaker 1>going to evolve as our kids go older and we

0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:02.200
<v Speaker 1>go to differ in schools? Guys, it's a gun happen,

0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:05.080
<v Speaker 1>and people are going to move, and people are gonna

0:36:05.400 --> 0:36:07.640
<v Speaker 1>and also just with the ages itself like not everyone's

0:36:07.680 --> 0:36:11.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna be in the same class because maybe he's born

0:36:11.640 --> 0:36:15.440
<v Speaker 1>the twenty six September and America says you, it's what

0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:18.480
<v Speaker 1>you are on the first to September. It's September. No, no,

0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:21.680
<v Speaker 1>but you'll be yeah, but you'll you'll be in our class. Yeah,

0:36:21.680 --> 0:36:24.319
<v Speaker 1>but then he's gonna be the oldest one. That's the best.

0:36:24.520 --> 0:36:29.279
<v Speaker 1>That's the best thing. I think you talk about this,

0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:33.600
<v Speaker 1>but everyone before September. Yeah, so there's a whole thing too,

0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:38.840
<v Speaker 1>because Albie is only a week after your Sullivan. Um,

0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:41.200
<v Speaker 1>but see you guys, this is already to swim club

0:36:41.200 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 1>at work. But what I have heard is that um boys,

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:53.160
<v Speaker 1>because they their adolescence are and they're slower to puberty,

0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:59.120
<v Speaker 1>that a lot of times they they it's better to

0:36:59.360 --> 0:37:01.160
<v Speaker 1>if have a boy be the oldest in his class

0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:02.839
<v Speaker 1>and the youngest, especially when they get to high school

0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:06.920
<v Speaker 1>age and they haven't and they're doing like sports and

0:37:05.200 --> 0:37:15.239
<v Speaker 1>swim clubs. You want you want your sure? Uh, how

0:37:15.440 --> 0:37:17.200
<v Speaker 1>do we think this village is going to involve? Because

0:37:17.200 --> 0:37:19.960
<v Speaker 1>I think going to make friends, we're going to move away.

0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:22.600
<v Speaker 1>People might have their second people, we're going to have

0:37:22.640 --> 0:37:26.600
<v Speaker 1>our second at different times want to have any conversation

0:37:26.680 --> 0:37:28.160
<v Speaker 1>that we were all having a second of the same.

0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:32.680
<v Speaker 1>We're all I love that you're just giggling. I love it.

0:37:33.040 --> 0:37:35.200
<v Speaker 1>My first baby, I went home and told my husband

0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:37.080
<v Speaker 1>Shanna told me to have a baby, and then my

0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:39.239
<v Speaker 1>second one will be like, well, the swim clubs having

0:37:39.239 --> 0:37:43.160
<v Speaker 1>their second baby. We're doing this. I really think that's

0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:45.600
<v Speaker 1>what's gonna happen to something someone's gonna have pregnant. This

0:37:45.680 --> 0:37:48.320
<v Speaker 1>is what I think everyone's going to start. If someone

0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:52.400
<v Speaker 1>does that soon, I'm going to ring fucking Should we

0:37:52.440 --> 0:37:56.399
<v Speaker 1>just make a pack that it's not before a year? Yah? What? Yes?

0:37:56.840 --> 0:38:00.520
<v Speaker 1>That is guys. Listen. I was just holding said that

0:38:00.560 --> 0:38:03.479
<v Speaker 1>we haven't gotten to the pelvic floor episode, but I

0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:07.160
<v Speaker 1>cannot um. I think that we it's gonna end up

0:38:07.200 --> 0:38:12.600
<v Speaker 1>coming down to us actively making it happen. This is

0:38:12.600 --> 0:38:18.960
<v Speaker 1>getting very weird and very like about getting it together

0:38:19.080 --> 0:38:21.000
<v Speaker 1>like staying together swim club. I think you just have

0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:27.200
<v Speaker 1>to try to uh first and foremost, also say thank

0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:30.520
<v Speaker 1>you for coming on Katie's crib. Also say thank you

0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:33.520
<v Speaker 1>because I think out of the whole group, I think

0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:36.160
<v Speaker 1>I had the roughest go at the beginning. Like I

0:38:36.200 --> 0:38:39.239
<v Speaker 1>think I was really sad and not excited about being

0:38:39.280 --> 0:38:43.720
<v Speaker 1>a mother, which you guys know hearing the postpartum depression episode.

0:38:44.239 --> 0:38:48.360
<v Speaker 1>Um and I guys, like my uh like safe space

0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:51.200
<v Speaker 1>and happy space. Was watching all of your faces on

0:38:51.440 --> 0:38:54.080
<v Speaker 1>the Marco Polo app. Wow, this marct Pole app is

0:38:54.080 --> 0:38:56.960
<v Speaker 1>really getting a lot of play today. Um. But I

0:38:57.000 --> 0:38:59.080
<v Speaker 1>would be like breastfeeding at one o'clock in the morning

0:38:59.080 --> 0:39:03.040
<v Speaker 1>and not enjoying it and not connecting to Albie. Really

0:39:03.120 --> 0:39:07.839
<v Speaker 1>and um and you guys really I don't know, like

0:39:08.120 --> 0:39:11.560
<v Speaker 1>you just you did make it better. And I really, truthfully,

0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:16.600
<v Speaker 1>honestly like I I don't know if but I actually

0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:18.080
<v Speaker 1>I do know. I think if I would have been

0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:21.759
<v Speaker 1>by myself, um, and I really didn't have you guys

0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:25.120
<v Speaker 1>a support system. Um and I didn't have Adam in place,

0:39:25.160 --> 0:39:28.160
<v Speaker 1>and I think, I definitely I think it would have

0:39:28.160 --> 0:39:31.960
<v Speaker 1>been darker for a lot longer. So I say that

0:39:32.080 --> 0:39:35.440
<v Speaker 1>to you guys all listening, because it is they're in

0:39:35.480 --> 0:39:37.960
<v Speaker 1>the olden times. There was a village for a reason

0:39:38.880 --> 0:39:41.480
<v Speaker 1>in raising a baby, and now times may look different,

0:39:42.160 --> 0:39:45.640
<v Speaker 1>but there are still ways to have it. Um. And

0:39:45.719 --> 0:39:48.320
<v Speaker 1>that is reaching out a hand and taking that first

0:39:48.320 --> 0:39:50.960
<v Speaker 1>step to meet someone in a class or at a

0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:58.880
<v Speaker 1>park um or online. Is that safe? But I wouldn't go.

0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:01.840
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to say thank you to Katie bring us

0:40:01.880 --> 0:40:04.759
<v Speaker 1>all together because ultimately it was Katie that offered your

0:40:04.800 --> 0:40:07.680
<v Speaker 1>home and brought us all together with I mean it

0:40:07.719 --> 0:40:10.120
<v Speaker 1>was Rebecca too, but like it's because of you that

0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:12.439
<v Speaker 1>we have swim Club bottom line. So it's a big

0:40:12.440 --> 0:40:14.600
<v Speaker 1>thank you. I did not title it swim club. I

0:40:16.000 --> 0:40:17.840
<v Speaker 1>don't know say it's Hannah. I think it was Hannah.

0:40:17.880 --> 0:40:20.560
<v Speaker 1>I might have been Hannah, it was whoever. You know,

0:40:20.600 --> 0:40:22.680
<v Speaker 1>the way I'm a group text, you can type in

0:40:22.719 --> 0:40:25.440
<v Speaker 1>a title. That's where it started. Do you know what

0:40:25.800 --> 0:40:29.160
<v Speaker 1>YE might have been Becky. I feel like it was

0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:32.720
<v Speaker 1>actually Becky. Well she named Marco Holo. This is so boring.

0:40:33.400 --> 0:40:35.239
<v Speaker 1>So I want to say about you is that I

0:40:35.320 --> 0:40:36.799
<v Speaker 1>think one thing that was really great that you did

0:40:36.800 --> 0:40:38.600
<v Speaker 1>is that you were super inclusive, and I think you

0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:40.960
<v Speaker 1>sat that early on you didn't necessarily know everybody. Some

0:40:41.000 --> 0:40:43.919
<v Speaker 1>people were, oh yeah, by the way, guys, swim I

0:40:43.960 --> 0:40:48.080
<v Speaker 1>wasn't close to a lot of these women before swim Club.

0:40:48.160 --> 0:40:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Like I didn't know I didn't know Hannah Simone. I

0:40:53.120 --> 0:40:55.440
<v Speaker 1>knew Katie Davis through our husbands, but not on a

0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:57.920
<v Speaker 1>personal level, Like I don't think I had your private

0:40:58.000 --> 0:41:01.600
<v Speaker 1>number like you and I didn't text. Maybe maybe here

0:41:01.600 --> 0:41:04.520
<v Speaker 1>and there, maybe here and there, But because we can't

0:41:04.520 --> 0:41:07.799
<v Speaker 1>remember anymore, my words are gotten. Laura Man and I

0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:11.640
<v Speaker 1>almost we work together, like in a professional setting, and

0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:17.279
<v Speaker 1>Amy and I go back interesting children. But um, you

0:41:17.320 --> 0:41:21.760
<v Speaker 1>know so again, like we have already said, like having

0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:25.440
<v Speaker 1>a baby and doing it with somebody who's a girlfriend

0:41:25.600 --> 0:41:30.000
<v Speaker 1>is an awesome a chance for you to get close

0:41:30.080 --> 0:41:34.960
<v Speaker 1>to a really cool woman going through something like huge

0:41:35.000 --> 0:41:37.960
<v Speaker 1>in their life. Um, it's cool that you yourself are

0:41:37.960 --> 0:41:40.800
<v Speaker 1>going through it, and then it's super inspirational to watch

0:41:40.840 --> 0:41:45.720
<v Speaker 1>someone who you're falling in love with their friendship also

0:41:45.840 --> 0:41:51.000
<v Speaker 1>go through it. Um, is there any enclosing words? Are

0:41:51.040 --> 0:41:54.840
<v Speaker 1>there any thoughts or sayings or advice or anything you

0:41:54.880 --> 0:41:58.239
<v Speaker 1>want to say to the women, men, partners, significant others,

0:41:58.320 --> 0:42:02.600
<v Speaker 1>children listening out there. I have one thing that a

0:42:02.640 --> 0:42:04.760
<v Speaker 1>friend told me before I did have my baby. Before

0:42:04.760 --> 0:42:07.000
<v Speaker 1>you guys, and I have a friend who has two

0:42:07.200 --> 0:42:09.759
<v Speaker 1>children that are older, not older, one is five and

0:42:09.840 --> 0:42:12.760
<v Speaker 1>one's too, But she said something to me the minute

0:42:13.160 --> 0:42:16.080
<v Speaker 1>I had my baby that really stuck with me. Which

0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:19.240
<v Speaker 1>is and you reiterated this this episode, but it's really true,

0:42:19.840 --> 0:42:22.920
<v Speaker 1>do what's best for your family. And the great thing

0:42:22.960 --> 0:42:24.799
<v Speaker 1>about a village is, like you said, you get all

0:42:24.840 --> 0:42:28.080
<v Speaker 1>these different opinions, but the most important is what's right

0:42:28.080 --> 0:42:31.440
<v Speaker 1>for your family, and that's all that matters. Great. I

0:42:31.440 --> 0:42:35.600
<v Speaker 1>would also say, every phase ends, don't worry, it's all

0:42:35.600 --> 0:42:42.719
<v Speaker 1>going to I mean, honestly, honestly true. And another good

0:42:42.760 --> 0:42:45.719
<v Speaker 1>one that I stuck it through my whole pregnancy and

0:42:45.840 --> 0:42:49.160
<v Speaker 1>now is just don't borrow trouble. It's great to have

0:42:49.280 --> 0:42:51.920
<v Speaker 1>the advice, and it's great to know what everyone's going through,

0:42:51.960 --> 0:42:54.160
<v Speaker 1>but just don't borrow the trouble. If it's not happening

0:42:54.200 --> 0:42:57.120
<v Speaker 1>to you, you know, just keep your head down and

0:42:57.200 --> 0:42:59.680
<v Speaker 1>keep going. It might be more of an Irish phrase,

0:42:59.719 --> 0:43:03.120
<v Speaker 1>but like, just don't borrow that trouble, you know what

0:43:03.200 --> 0:43:05.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Like you can be supportive, what you also

0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:06.560
<v Speaker 1>don't have to think, well, it's gonna happen to me,

0:43:06.560 --> 0:43:10.120
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna These are actually great, this is life. Yeah,

0:43:10.440 --> 0:43:11.960
<v Speaker 1>in general, like you don't have to have a baby,

0:43:12.200 --> 0:43:15.640
<v Speaker 1>like everything everything, don't borrow the trouble because I think

0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:19.160
<v Speaker 1>what's best for your Like you were saying, you know, yeah,

0:43:19.239 --> 0:43:21.560
<v Speaker 1>and I do think you have to trust your own instincts,

0:43:21.640 --> 0:43:24.040
<v Speaker 1>which sounds so cliche, but when you do hear all

0:43:24.080 --> 0:43:26.600
<v Speaker 1>this information, and you do if you are into research,

0:43:26.640 --> 0:43:29.239
<v Speaker 1>which I'm overly into research. Katie Norman is like, you

0:43:29.239 --> 0:43:33.520
<v Speaker 1>like the group though, do you think I do you

0:43:33.560 --> 0:43:37.600
<v Speaker 1>do your research? I think you do research. Why I

0:43:37.640 --> 0:43:42.479
<v Speaker 1>think you pretend like you're not, But oh my god,

0:43:43.000 --> 0:43:44.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's I think it's because I hear

0:43:44.920 --> 0:43:47.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot and I memory. I memorize a lot of

0:43:47.360 --> 0:43:49.279
<v Speaker 1>what people tell me. I think that's what it is.

0:43:49.280 --> 0:43:51.359
<v Speaker 1>You're literally on Marco pol the other day. We're like,

0:43:51.400 --> 0:43:53.440
<v Speaker 1>this is the stock of books I'm reading. Yeah, this

0:43:53.480 --> 0:43:57.800
<v Speaker 1>is the baby Lidating you guys, that's the first book

0:43:57.920 --> 0:44:01.680
<v Speaker 1>I have ever read about parenting. But I really I'm

0:44:01.719 --> 0:44:03.960
<v Speaker 1>google that you actually read a book. I literally I

0:44:04.000 --> 0:44:05.799
<v Speaker 1>guess what I'm not doing it, So it was a

0:44:05.800 --> 0:44:09.360
<v Speaker 1>complete waste of time at the point being that you know,

0:44:09.400 --> 0:44:13.160
<v Speaker 1>trust your trust your instincts, like actually actually take a

0:44:13.200 --> 0:44:15.520
<v Speaker 1>second and your because your mind can just spin with

0:44:15.560 --> 0:44:17.640
<v Speaker 1>all these different theories about what the heck you should

0:44:17.640 --> 0:44:19.279
<v Speaker 1>be doing. If you're just like, okay, what is my

0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:22.160
<v Speaker 1>body telling me I should do now to my my

0:44:22.239 --> 0:44:24.360
<v Speaker 1>child that came out of my body, and maybe sometimes

0:44:24.400 --> 0:44:30.080
<v Speaker 1>you just do that, Yeah, you know your baby. Best guys,

0:44:30.120 --> 0:44:32.560
<v Speaker 1>we're just going around around the circle with real gems

0:44:32.560 --> 0:44:39.880
<v Speaker 1>here coming to the swim Club book. Hashtag send links.

0:44:39.880 --> 0:44:43.879
<v Speaker 1>Hashtag send links is really our t shirt. I want

0:44:43.880 --> 0:44:46.560
<v Speaker 1>to thank Andjolie Cabral. I want to thank Katie Davis.

0:44:46.600 --> 0:44:48.440
<v Speaker 1>I want to thank Laura Man, and I want to

0:44:48.440 --> 0:44:51.719
<v Speaker 1>thank Amy Rosoft Davis for being on Katie's Crib for

0:44:51.800 --> 0:44:55.480
<v Speaker 1>being a part of my village. And I encourage you

0:44:55.520 --> 0:44:59.799
<v Speaker 1>all to reach a hand across and find anyone going

0:44:59.800 --> 0:45:01.960
<v Speaker 1>through what you're going through so that you are not alone,

0:45:02.480 --> 0:45:06.520
<v Speaker 1>and it will be awesome if you do. Thank you

0:45:06.520 --> 0:45:09.399
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0:45:09.480 --> 0:45:12.440
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0:45:12.520 --> 0:45:14.600
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0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:17.040
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0:45:17.080 --> 0:45:20.080
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