1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. We make way for our good buddy, Ross Tucker, 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: host of the Ross Tucker Football Podcast. He works for 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: CBS Sports in Westwood One. What do you make of 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: that report there? Ross doesn't shock me, Dan. You know, 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: I've played with coach Zimmer when I was in Dallas. 7 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: Have a lot of respect for him. Obviously he was 8 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball. I think he's 9 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: a good coach. I think he's done a nice job 10 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: in Minnesota. But it does feel like on some level 11 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: it's run its course. You know, their defense is just 12 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: simply not good enough. That's his expertise, that's his side 13 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: of the ball. And Dan, they have arguably the best 14 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: receiving tandem in the league. They have a really good 15 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: back and Cook Alexander Madison is a stud when he plays. 16 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: Cousins has played as a top ten quarterback this year. 17 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: They can't be five and seven. I mean, I don't 18 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: know how you're five and seven with all of the 19 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: skill guys I just name. Clearly, the defense and the 20 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: old line aren't good enough. But we've been saying that 21 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: for a couple of years now. Yeah, I and I 22 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: always go back to this, and I say this a lot. 23 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: Not every assistant coach is meant to be a head 24 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: coach that you know, Belichick is really rare that he 25 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: doesn't have personality, but he still has that attention to detail. 26 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: He doesn't win press conferences. You know, Pete Carroll wins 27 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: a press conference. You know guys Sean McVay wins a 28 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: press conference. But Mike Zimmer doesn't win a press conference. 29 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: And he doesn't strike me as a guy who is 30 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: going to lead you to the promised land where you go. 31 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 1: I'm going to follow that guy. But if you say, hey, 32 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: coach the defense, he strikes me as a guy that 33 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: you want on your staff, not to be the head coach. 34 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: Do you understand where I'm coming from here? Yeah? I do? 35 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: You know, I will say, you know, they went to 36 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: the playoffs a lot of years in a row. They've 37 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: want a decent amount of playoff games, obviously getting that 38 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: NFC Championship game in twenty seventeen. I do think he's 39 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: a head coach. I think he's a good head coach. 40 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: I don't think he's a great one. And they have 41 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: not been able to overcome some personnel issues on the 42 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball, of the offensive line. But 43 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: they've tried for like two three four years now, and 44 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: at a certain point you have to say, let's give 45 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: somebody else a shot. And then you have the Steelers 46 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: here with the farewell tour of Ben Roethlisberger. If it 47 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: is the farewell tour of Ben Roethlisberger that I don't 48 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: know what happens if they make the playoffs, Like Ben, 49 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: you know, I guess he's made a decision. According to 50 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: Adam Schefter, do you think it's over that Ben is 51 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 1: not going to play no matter what happens the rest 52 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: of this season. So I'm kind of confused by this, Dan. 53 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: I know there are reports last week that Roethlisberger is 54 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: privately telling people that it's his last year. I thought 55 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: we knew this was his last year. You know why 56 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: when they redid his contract, he took less money for 57 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: this year all the other years void. I thought we 58 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: all knew it was his last year. Like I thought 59 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: that was the deal they signed Mason Rudolph to a 60 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: one year extension through twenty twenty two. I didn't really 61 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: think last week's news was actually news. I thought we 62 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: all knew this was Big Ben's last dance, last chance, 63 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: and that that's the way it always was going to be, 64 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: and the way it's played out this year, it should 65 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: be his last year. But do you see them. I 66 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: don't think his successors on that roster. No. I think 67 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: that they have Mason Rudolph extended for one year as 68 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: sort of the floor for what they can have. Worst 69 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: case scenario for them right now, it's Rudolph and Haskins 70 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: potentially battling out for that spot. If they're not able 71 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: to get some other veteran or anybody in the draft. 72 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: You know, they're not going to draft high enough to get, 73 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: you know, one of the two or three guys that 74 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: people seem to like, although nobody's in love or enamored 75 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: with any of these guys. To be ironic, if they 76 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: had Kenny Pickett just stay in the exact same stadium. Obviously, 77 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: every Steelers fan I know here in Pennsylvania it's like, oh, 78 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: we're getting Russell Wilson. Dude, Aaron Rodgers. You know, it's 79 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: so funny. Dan. Whether it's college football and like the 80 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: Notre Dame alums or Oklahoma fans or the NFL, everybody 81 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 1: has an overinflated sense of the worth of their team 82 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: or their school. Like the Steelers fans around here, they're 83 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: just like, yeah, I mean, it depends on who we want, 84 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: whether it's Russell or Rogers. Like in their mind, all 85 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: of these guys want to play with the Steelers because 86 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: of the Steelers. I don't really think that's the case. 87 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll I'm sure they'll make the call and 88 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: see if those guys would want to play at Pittsburgh, 89 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: But I don't think it's as open and shut as 90 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: Steelers fans seem to think. It as just like Oklahoma 91 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: nor Name fans can't fathom the idea that a coach 92 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: would leave their school to go to another college football program. 93 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: If you were an offensive lineman for Pitt and Kenny 94 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,799 Speaker 1: Pickett decided he didn't want to play in the Peach Bowl, 95 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: how would you feel. I think I would understand it. 96 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: I would be disappointed if you know he wasn't gonna play, 97 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: because obviously he makes a huge difference in whether or 98 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: not you win. You've had an enjoyable season. It's the 99 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: first time Pitt's been in a big bowl game in 100 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: a while. I think I would be disappointed. But ultimately 101 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: understand it. I think it's interesting. I used to work 102 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: with Ed McCaffrey Dan on the radio, and he told me, remember, 103 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey was the first guy to skip a Bowl game, right, 104 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: the first guy? And Ed said something really interesting to 105 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: me that when they kind of laid out the pros 106 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: and cons, Christian McCaffrey actually talked to his teammates. He said, hey, look, 107 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: I'm supposedly a top ten pick. You know, I could 108 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: play in the Sun Bowl in El Paso, Texas, which 109 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: sounds funny now, and play with you guys. But if 110 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: I get hurt like what happened to Jalen Smith and 111 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: if he Hasta Bowl, you never know and what ends 112 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: to me? I thought was interesting. His teammates were all like, 113 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: you better not play. You'd be an absolute moron if 114 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: you play with us in the Sun Bowl. So I 115 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 1: think guys are at the point now where they kind 116 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,559 Speaker 1: of understand a little bit more. It does feel weird 117 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, when it's a quarterback and it's a 118 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: guy that's led a program like Pitt to a place 119 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: they haven't been in a while. If he was at 120 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: Alabama or Georgia and played a different position, we wouldn't 121 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: even think twice about it. The reaction has been interesting 122 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: though the last twenty four hours, you know, Vegas, you know, 123 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: took it from a three and a half point spread 124 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: down to a pick him. You know, just the reaction 125 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: of people that you got to play in a bowl game, 126 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: or you shouldn't play in a bowl game, or he 127 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: has every right to set out if he wants to. Plus, 128 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: I wonder when he was on the show yesterday, if 129 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: the reaction is going to almost force him to play that, 130 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: you know, like, how can you do? You know, if 131 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: he's on the fence. I wonder if all this criticism 132 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,239 Speaker 1: makes him go And I don't know if he's even 133 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: not playing in the bowl game. I just got a sense, 134 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: and that's why I ask him the question. Yeah, So 135 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: two things on that. Number One, I do think people 136 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: look at the quarterback position a little bit differently from 137 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: a leadership standpoint, And I wonder how that will be 138 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: looked at by some NFL team. I don't think many, 139 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: but there might be a few that don't love it. 140 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: Number one. Number Two, next time, Dan, you're gonna ask 141 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: him a question like that, can you have Fritzie or 142 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: somebody texts me before the line moves by three and 143 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: a half points, that would really be a good one 144 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: for me to get the heads up on before Vegas. 145 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: Does you know what, Fritzie, would you write that down 146 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: next time I ask a question that could affect the 147 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: betting line? So noted, let you know, let ross know. 148 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: The Eagles quarterbacking situation. I find it interesting. Now, maybe 149 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: it's not that interesting, but Gardner Minshew to me, can play. 150 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: He's a better quarterback than Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts is 151 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: a better weapon, and there's a difference in that. But 152 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's any quarterback controversy in Philadelphia 153 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: team you know very well, right yeah. I do their 154 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: pregame and I spent a lot of time on WIP 155 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: there in Philadelphia. The first thing is, how is it possible, Dan, 156 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: that none of these other teams traded a sixth round pick. 157 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: I agree for Gardner Minshew. I mean, the Eagles had Hurts, 158 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: they had Flacco, they traded a sixth round pick for 159 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 1: Minshew to be the third We got guys like Tim 160 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: Boyle starting NFL games for the Detroit Lions, and nobody 161 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: wanted to give more than that for Minshew. Now, I 162 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: personally don't think there's any controversy regarding who starts the 163 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: next game. Hurtz has been on a steady progression. He's 164 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: played well overall. The Giants game was his worst game, 165 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: and that's the last time out, so he has to 166 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: play better. What I find really interesting, though, is what 167 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: this means for Nick Sirianni, the first year head coach. 168 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 1: What happens if Hurts struggles in the next game against Washington. 169 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: I mean, they have four games left. If they go 170 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: three and one or better, they're going to the playoffs. 171 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: This creates an interesting dilemma for Sirianni. If hurt struggles 172 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: like he did against the Giants, does he give him 173 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: the whole game? Does he give him the first series 174 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: of the third quarter? Does he I mean, it's not 175 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: amount in my mind, who starts the next game, it's 176 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: how quick of a hook does Hurts have if he 177 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: performs poorly. We're talking to Ross Tucker, host to the 178 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 1: Rons Tucker Football Podcast, and he'll be on the call 179 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: for Army Navy. That'll be on Westwood one this Saturday day, 180 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: and that'll be a three Eastern. Your sixth Army Navy game. 181 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: That sounds right. Favorite day of the year. Yea, if 182 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 1: I did three on the sideline with James Lofton and 183 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: mayhok into booth and then this will be my third 184 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: time in the booth Dan my single favorite day of 185 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: the year. You know, It's funny. I'm from near Philadelphia 186 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: and that's where the game's usually played, and people said, 187 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: my whole upbringing, you gotta go to Army Navy, gotta 188 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: go to Army Navots. And I was always kind of like, yeah, yeah, 189 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's great. But like I I, you know, 190 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: I was a Penn State fan, whatever, I had no idea. 191 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: The thing I tell people is it's a bucket list item, 192 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: and that if you know, we obviously live in a 193 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: pretty divisive society. We all know that it's polarizing. There's 194 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: not a whole light a lot of respect between certain people. 195 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: If you want to have a day where you just 196 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 1: feel like we're all on the same team, we're all 197 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: in this together, and feel better about our country. The 198 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: Army Navy game, that's where it's at. Man, you go 199 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: in that stadium and just like like we're gonna be okay. 200 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: Because even though they're trying to kill each other on 201 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 1: the field. Everybody in that stadium knows we're ultimately on 202 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 1: the same team. We're ultimately in this together. I would 203 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 1: like if our country could get back to that, remembering 204 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: like we're not political parties, like we're all Americans, We're 205 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: all in this together. That'd be nice. Yeah, it's emotional. 206 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 1: It is. It's emotional anytime I've gone to West Point, 207 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: and even now thinking about it, when those cadets come 208 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: in and you realize, we talk about boy, this game 209 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: is life and death. No, they they're in a game 210 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: that's life and death. You know, this is fun for them. 211 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: Army Navy is really important, but they're bigger picture is 212 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: you know, they move on to something that is truly 213 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: life and death. And when you see them come in, 214 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: it's it's as if you put everything to this side 215 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: and it's a wonderful moment and I'm end of you. 216 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: You're gonna be there this Saturday. Yeah, Dan, you just 217 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: describing that just gave me chills. Because the thing is 218 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: inside the stadium, it's a lot of alums, it's parents, 219 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,479 Speaker 1: and obviously it's all the midshipment in the cadets. Everybody 220 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: in there has sacrificed on some level, right, even if 221 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 1: it's a family member that goes in the service. They 222 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: miss a lot of holidays, they miss a lot. Everybody 223 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: in there, in one way, shape or form, has sacrificed 224 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 1: for the rest of us to be able to do 225 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: what we can do. And I'm in awe of the 226 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: eighteen year olds that sign up for nine years from 227 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: eighteen to twenty seven. At a minimum, they're gonna live 228 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 1: a different life than the rest of us live. Can't 229 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: thank any of them enough. And I tell everybody anytime 230 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: you see a service manner, when say thank you, it's 231 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: it's incredible. Thank you, buddy, great to talk to you. 232 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: I have fun this weekend. Thank you. Take care. Be 233 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 1: sure to catch the live edition of The Dan Patrick 234 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific on 235 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio app. Tom Tilber 236 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: knows about losing basketball. I don't know how else to 237 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: make this segue. Tom, the Warriors radio network analysts former 238 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: NBA player, Good morning, Tom, How are you? Good morning, Dan? 239 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 1: I don't know that much about losing basketball. Didn't play 240 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: that much with you, did I No, No, Now you 241 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: you got me, not really, what's the biggest win of 242 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: your NBA career? Just to let this audience know the 243 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: substance of your career. Good preseason game count, I got 244 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: show with nine. You had nine postseason wins. I think 245 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: to trust me, I had no post season wins. I 246 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: wasn't for those postseason wins. I guess when we were 247 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: seven seed we'd beat the Spurs with Robinson and Terry Cummings. 248 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: That was a Rod Strickland Sean Elliott. That was a 249 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: really good basketball team, and we took them down and 250 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: then we got smacked by the Lakers the next round. 251 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: But I don't know. I mean, I guess if somebody 252 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: would ask it. With my biggest basketball win, it would 253 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: be North Carolina when I was at Arizona to get 254 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: to the get to the Sweet six team. But as 255 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: far as the NBA goes, I don't really have any 256 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: memorable postseason victories. So I'm sorry to disappoint. I was 257 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: there at that Final four game when it was Oklahoma 258 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: in Arizona. Yeah, that wasn't as pleasant memory, Dan, I know, 259 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: but that was that game was fifty to forty nine 260 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: and halftime. Does that sound right? You know? I think no. 261 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: I think that was the finals game. That was the 262 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: Kansas game. That was high octane. Our game was a 263 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: little lower still higher scoring. But the thing I remember 264 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: about that game is just how many pros were on 265 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: the court at the same time. We had Sean Elliott, 266 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: Steve Kerr, Anthony Cook, Judd Bussler, myself, Harvey Grant, Stacy King, 267 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: Mookie Blaylock, and I mean, it was just it was 268 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: an incredible, incredible game, and they got the better of us. 269 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: Billy Tubbs, Damn Billy Tubbs. Mookie Blaylock was great back then. 270 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: I used to call him Pearl Jam to be honest 271 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: with you. Before. Oh yeah, you called him Pearl Jam before. Okay, no, 272 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: but it, man, it sounds good now. And if I 273 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: said it, no one would. I don't know if anybody 274 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: could call me on it. But anyway, they don't even care. Hell, 275 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: they didn't even know who the hell I am little 276 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: on what I'm saying. All Right, you've been calling games 277 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: for a while. You've been there, you know, for Steph 278 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: Curry's entire career. When when Golden State drafted Steph Curry, 279 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: the local reaction was but h yeah, I mean, I 280 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: think they liked the pick, and no one knew what 281 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: was coming. I don't think he knew it was coming, 282 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: but really good shooter just came off an incredible NC 283 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: double a run, so people knew who he was, had 284 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: a shooter and that was about it. Just you know 285 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: that solid player draft the number seven overall, but no 286 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: one knew that. You know, Minnesota gaffed as bad as 287 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: they did. We all should have guessed because it's Minnesota 288 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: after all. And I always say that Minnesota should get 289 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: some of the Warriors championship hardware because they are They 290 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: are responsible for the Warriors being good, as the Warriors 291 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: are for the Warriors being good. So yeah, good player, 292 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: maybe an All Star something like that, but not one 293 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: of the not one of the all timers. But if 294 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: you look at what Golden State has done, that's why 295 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: I have so much respect for you know they're drafting 296 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: because you know, when you took Klay Thompson, I didn't 297 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: know if he was a big moment guy. I knew 298 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: we could Draymond Green. I got to see him play. 299 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 1: He just looked like an agitator. I didn't know that 300 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 1: he could develop into what he's developed into. I mean 301 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: that's the nucleus. I mean, that's the brilliance of what 302 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: they've been able to do. And I don't know if 303 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: anybody thought any of those players was going to be 304 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer maybe, let alone an All Star. Well, 305 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody knew that Clay would be as 306 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: good a two way player as he was. I mean, 307 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: he wasn't known for defense at Washington State. He was 308 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: a score a shooter, and people thought, well, that's what 309 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: we're getting. We're getting a shooter. And he could definitely shoot. 310 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: You're talking about the best shooting backcourt in the history 311 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 1: of the NBA. But no one knew he could be 312 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:42,479 Speaker 1: an incredible defensive player. Draymond Green very versatile. No one 313 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: knew he could be defensive Player of the Year. And 314 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: I think with Draymond, the thing with him was he 315 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 1: got in shape a couple of years into the league. 316 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: He decided, I'm going to make the commitment to get 317 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: in shape, and then then he was able to unlock 318 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: everything his body could do. Now he can go and 319 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: you know, he can do all the things that everybody 320 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: thought he could do at Michigan State. You remember, his 321 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: body was much different at Michigan State, and he's just 322 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: he may be one of the smartest basketball players I've 323 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: ever seen in a basketball courts. He just understands what's 324 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: happening before it happens, where most players have to react. 325 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: He's already ahead of the He's already ahead of the 326 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: game by a couple of seconds, so he sees what's coming. 327 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: And defensively, he's just brilliant. I thought it was interesting 328 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: in telling that people actually thought, hey, Steph Curry could 329 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: make sixteen three pointers last night, and I went, I 330 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 1: don't think so, but it'd be the greatest shooting night 331 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: of all time. But the fact that people thought that 332 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: he could do it tells you a whole lot about 333 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: Steph Curry. What did you think? What were your expectations 334 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: last night that he wasn't going to do it? Yeah, 335 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: I mean that's forty eight points right up the rip, 336 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: and that's an incredible game. When you start talking about 337 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: you know, you're probably gonna have close to sixty points 338 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: if you make sixteen. But it's Steph. So I said, 339 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: let's get him a one percent chance of doing it, 340 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: because sixteen three pointers. Now, he may do it at 341 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: some point during its career. But it'll be one of 342 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: those natural, organic things where they're playing a good team. 343 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: He plays the whole game and he just gets hot 344 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: and then keeps it going. I mean, sixteen three pointers 345 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: on demand is just absurd to go in and think 346 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: I can just go ahead and drop sixteen pointers because 347 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: I'm Steph. But because he's Steph, he almost had to 348 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: leave open the possibility of, well, maybe if he makes 349 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: four or five in the first quarter, because we've seen 350 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: him do that before where he made through three, four 351 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 1: or five in a quarter, well then maybe he could 352 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: he could do something like that. But yeah, sixteen is 353 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 1: just ridiculous. To be honest, I'm pretty sure I didn't 354 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: make sixteen three pointers in my career, let alone on 355 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: one game. Yeah, I think Clay Thompson would be the 356 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 1: guy that I would look at instead of Steph to 357 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 1: make sixteen three pointers. We're talking to Tom Tilbert, the 358 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: Warriors radio network analyst. I got you twenty nine three 359 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: pointers made? Could I make twenty nine? I think look 360 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: at that over seven years, you made twenty nine three 361 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: pointers firing them up there for a year you shot 362 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: thirty percent. Yes, and that's really nothing to be proud of. 363 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: Dan you were kind of a West Coast Larry Bird. 364 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: Weren't you? What West coast? Are we talking about, Eddie? 365 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: Eddie Bird, I'm sorry, I'm not Larry Eddie. I hate 366 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: to disparage the entire region. How does this Golden State 367 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: team match up with the Lakers? Oh? Very well. I mean, 368 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: I think this team matches up well with anybody, because 369 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: they're really good. The funny thing about Golden State is 370 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 1: you think of Staff, and you think of Clay, and 371 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 1: you think of the splash Brothers and firing threes. They're 372 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: the number one team in the league defensively, so that's 373 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: when they won back in twenty fifteen. I said, this 374 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: team reminds me of that team because of the depth 375 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: they have, the wing depth they have, and their defensive ability. 376 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: Back in twenty fifteen, they're the number one team in 377 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: the league defensively and offensively, and they shure the number 378 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: one team defensively, So they're going to match it well 379 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: with anybody just because of their ability to stretch the court, 380 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,479 Speaker 1: steps ability to distort a defense, and really they can 381 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: rely Like last night, they didn't have their best stuff offensively, 382 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: but they can always rely on their defense. Their defense 383 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 1: is the backbone of that team. When is Clay expected 384 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 1: back to play? Probably January. I would think a couple 385 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: of weeks into January. They want to make sure if 386 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: stamina is good and that he's able to go, because 387 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: that's when you get hurt. You go out there and 388 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: you get tired and you push it a little bit 389 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: more than you should. So I think they just taking 390 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: them and bring them along slowly, playing down in Santa 391 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,239 Speaker 1: Cruz to practice and kind of get ready. But they 392 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: don't really need him right now. It's not like, hey, 393 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 1: we're kind of slipping, so we need to get him 394 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: back now. They're in great position, so they're going to 395 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,479 Speaker 1: take their time with him. But my guests would be 396 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: first second week of January. Fox Sports Radio has the 397 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of 398 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: our shows at foxsports Radio dot com and within the 399 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app search FSR to listen live. Hey what's up everybody? 400 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: It's me three time pro bowler Levarrington, and I couldn't 401 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 1: be more excited to announce a new podcast called Up 402 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: on Game? What is up on Game? 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We're in 412 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: Chicago and we're playing the Bulls when I was with Orlando, 413 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: and we ended up beating the Bulls that game, and 414 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: they actually showed it. If my friends always calling, hey, hey, 415 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: they're showing the the Bulls game on NBA TV. And 416 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 1: it was the one where Shack had like twenty nine 417 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: points twenty six rebounds. And so I think at the 418 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: end of the first or midway to the first quarter 419 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 1: or something like that, he had twelve points and I 420 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: had ten points, and I thought, Oh, it's gonna be good. 421 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna go at it here toe to toe. Well, 422 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: he kind of left me just a little bit. He 423 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 1: scored sixty three that game, and I could, I couldn't 424 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: quite keep up with him. But the amazing thing about 425 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 1: Jordan is, so you're playing the game, in't that really 426 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: concentrating on what anybody else's doing. I mean, you focused 427 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: on I'm focused on keeping Horace crying up the boards, 428 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: making sure I'm taking care of my defensive responsibilities there, 429 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 1: and just trying to win a basketball game. But he 430 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: was so good that at the end of the game, 431 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: I think it's at sixty three, and it seemed like 432 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: at thirty, like you, I knew it was hot, and 433 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: I knew it was scoring, but you look up at 434 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: the end of the game and sixty three points is 435 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 1: an incredible amount of points. But for Jordan just didn't 436 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: seem completely out of the ordinary. And I'll be honest 437 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: with you, I think he could average forty in today's game. 438 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: I really do. You can't hand check anymore, so you 439 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: get touch fouls. You know, there's nobody there to defend 440 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: the room anymore. I mean, back then, there used to 441 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: be a whole bunch of rim protectors. Now you know 442 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: there's a few room protectors, but not a lot of 443 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:44,719 Speaker 1: room protectors. I think he would just absolutely destroy NBA 444 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 1: defenses right now, and he'd probably end up getting a 445 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: three point shot two, which he really wouldn't need, but 446 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 1: need to get one, because that's the way everbody plays nowadays. 447 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: I think people forget sometimes how great this guy was. 448 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: And to score thirty five, thirty eight points a game 449 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: back then, when defenses were physical and they were bigger 450 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: and they could hand check, it's it's pretty stunning how 451 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 1: good he was. He scored so many points. You forgot 452 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: how many he scored. I got it. I got him 453 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: at sixty four. Oh was it sixty four? Yeah? Damn yeah. 454 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: See I never had that problem. I never I could do. 455 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 1: It's easy for me. You had fourteen, So he got 456 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 1: you by fifty. I don't scored you by fifty. You 457 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: know what, that's actually not bad. I felt I felt 458 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: pretty good about that. I felt pretty good about that. 459 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: But he's, uh, he's I mean, he just it's it's 460 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: hard to describe, Like it's pretty cool now to say 461 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: you played against Bird and Magic and and Michael and 462 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: some of the greatest players to ever play the game. 463 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: At least with Michael, I didn't have to be as 464 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: close to him as they did the Bird because I 465 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: didn't get to hear the uh the smack talking. I 466 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: actually had the guard Bird and that was it was 467 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: just a disaster. You know, I'll give you a great 468 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: bird story. We're with the opening tip and we're lined up. 469 00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 1: You know how guys they shake hands, they had doing 470 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: good blah blah blah blah blah. So you know, me 471 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: and Molly walked out there Chris Mullen and he goes 472 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: and says, Hi to Bird, what's up? And I go say, 473 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,719 Speaker 1: tylor And he looks at me. It looks like at Chris. 474 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: It looks at me. It looks back at Chris. And 475 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 1: he said, are you really going to guard me with 476 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:23,360 Speaker 1: a white guy? And I told him, I said, yeah, 477 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to make a living man. He come in, 478 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: Can you just you know, easy, just just settle down. Yeah, 479 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 1: but you locked him down, didn't you. Yeah? Thirty three? Okay, 480 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: that's not bad guns thirty number thirty three. And I 481 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: think he had something like that. Anyway, you know, you 482 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: might catch me. I might bay off a point again. 483 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: But he hit like pen against Phoenix. He was having 484 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: a bad road trip. He had like a fourteen against Seattle, 485 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: pen against Phoenix, and of course it didn't really speak 486 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 1: much for my defensive abilities. I gotta, I gotta be 487 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 1: honest with you, but then nothing really spoke for my 488 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,959 Speaker 1: defensive abilities. Keep your head up, all right, I'm gonna try, Dan, 489 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: That's how I uh. And I got to ask you 490 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: real quick if anybody ever brought this up. So the show, 491 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: the DP show comes through on the on the caller ID, 492 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,239 Speaker 1: And as soon as I saw that, I go, oh, 493 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 1: it's a good thing my wife didn't see that when 494 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: I answered, she might have had some questions that I 495 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: couldn't answer. Thank you, Tom. Let's see you damn right. 496 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: Octobert the Warriors radio network analysts, former NBA player