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Speaker 1: Welcome to you another episode of Horrible Decisions. We are

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Speaker 1: here during the quarantine. We are bringing you the host ship,

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Speaker 1: but today it's a little bit of a healing home

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Speaker 1: type of conversation. Um, but this is your girl, Mandy

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Speaker 1: b a k A Peg the Stallion a k A Bitch.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Horrible Decisions. Guys. I'm wheezy and today I

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Speaker 1: feel like this will be the most email Mandy will get.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait. Frand I'm so happy to that ships

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Speaker 1: to drag me for being a stars and moon Beat

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Speaker 1: loves you, loves you, so I'm like, oh, let's loosen

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Speaker 1: her up, just like she'd be trying to loosen them

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Speaker 1: boothy holes up. Let's but no, guys, Um, we do

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Speaker 1: have a guest on today's episode, and unfortunately, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's not in studio because somehow this is where our

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Speaker 1: today I want to in you guy. Introduce you. Guys

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Speaker 1: to our guests. We have Fran from Hey, frand Hey

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Speaker 1: and also one third of the friend Zone podcast. You

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Speaker 1: are the last member to come on our show. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we've had Dustin and Asante on. So if you guys

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Speaker 1: enjoyed Asante and Dustin on the show. This is their

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Speaker 1: third counterpart. This is the balance, this is what the

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Speaker 1: moon and starves me. We are should I say the

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Speaker 1: oils and inst yo? So let me ask you, friend,

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Speaker 1: just curious, Um, I wanted to know your age. I

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Speaker 1: feel like it gives a great context for celibacy and

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Speaker 1: just the maturation of what this conversation will be, your

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Speaker 1: age and your sexual orientation. I'm curious. Um, I am fluid,

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Speaker 1: and I will be thirty eight in two weeks. Actually, bitch,

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Speaker 1: excuse me, it right? Oh you didn't know? Girl, she's

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Speaker 1: seasoned and I love it. That's why. That's why she's

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Speaker 1: coming to teach our young asses some ship. I'm just

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Speaker 1: kind of get I get really set when I'd be

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Speaker 1: on Instagram and people talk about their age and it's

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Speaker 1: be like, oh, man, well, you know, I get a

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Speaker 1: lot of sleep. I'm a well rested home. You know,

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Speaker 1: me and Fran were actually almost neighbors. Um, yes, that's

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Speaker 1: so crazy. So you know that I've been um looking

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Speaker 1: for a new place and in Brooklyn, and I found

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Speaker 1: little too deep in Brooklyn ship. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm a little young spring chicken, and I would

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Speaker 1: It was beautiful enough for me to move my aster Brooklyn.

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Speaker 1: So I was I'm glad you said beautiful because for me,

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Speaker 1: it was the flex. I said one point Instagram. Every

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Speaker 1: I feel. I don't know why I feel weird. Posted

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Speaker 1: I was just talking to Jade. I know you're helping

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Speaker 1: although she can bend in many ways and that's of

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Speaker 1: ask you? Do you think that? Do you think that

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Speaker 1: it's weird at all? If someone goes on there and

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Speaker 1: that you have because you're not constantly thinking of something

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00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 1: that you want because you're getting it, just not in

425
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 1: the household, but you're getting it, and so it's keeping

426
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 1: you from wishing you were getting it or or feeling like,

427
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 1: you know, upset at something maybe you can't even communicate

428
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,120
Speaker 1: because you know it's not an option with whoever you're with,

429
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 1: and still, you know, just just still being able to

430
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 1: be yourself eat whether you're in a marriage or not.

431
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: And I know I'm probably gonna get chewed up saying that,

432
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 1: but I really do feel like I've been kind of

433
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,400
Speaker 1: like a release factor for some of the married men

434
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 1: that I've just because you're a stress reliever for them

435
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that you're saving their marriage as a couple

436
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 1: at all. That that has nothing to do. It doesn't

437
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 1: mean it everything, It doesn't mean it every time. But

438
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 1: I do feel like, yes, I'm a part of saving

439
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 1: your man. I totally disagree. I think that lying doesn't

440
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 1: save to anybody. Gotta stop. Just a lot of people

441
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: are just so judge you with thinking like, oh, it

442
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,199
Speaker 1: takes you to another bitch now. I mean, you know,

443
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: it's funny. The person that I feel like I had

444
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: the most awesome relationship with because we just connected on

445
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 1: all cylinders, he actually brought up polyamory about maybe eight

446
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: or nine months into our relationship, and I was kind

447
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 1: of like, mmmm, what what was your response or what

448
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,199
Speaker 1: was your immediate thought to him asking about what my

449
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: immediate response was? Whereas this coming from? Because I didn't

450
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: understand how that took eight months to discuss as opposed

451
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 1: to us having had that conversation that that's something he

452
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: was interested in, and yeah, you know, so I felt like,

453
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: did you meet someone that is now making you want

454
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: to say that this is the new configuration? You know?

455
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 1: Like I was asking all those questions, but he did

456
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: admit that it was something he'd always been curious about,

457
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 1: never felt safe bringing up because he's like, most women

458
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: are going to be like, hell no, and then SI's different.

459
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 1: You know, it shifts the energy between the two of

460
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 1: you after that. But he felt safe enough in our

461
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: connection to at least bring it up and see if

462
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 1: it would be something I would consider. I told him,

463
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 1: I was like, listen, I would be honest with you.

464
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 1: It's never been something I've been interested in, but I'm

465
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: also open to seeing how it feels, and if I

466
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: don't like it, I won't do it. And it's so

467
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 1: crazy that you brought up the fact that he he

468
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: decided to say that he didn't bring it up because

469
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 1: most women quote unquote would be like, hell no. And

470
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:29,199
Speaker 1: what I've really liked about our podcast is just the

471
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 1: variety of not only guests we've had on but Weezy

472
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 1: and I I think speak a lot for the women

473
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,360
Speaker 1: who are okay with maybe a dating a bisexual man,

474
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 1: or having a tall woman come on here and say

475
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 1: I prefer short guy, and you know, just all of

476
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: the different things that men automatically think. I know my

477
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: girlfriend would say hell no. We get a lot of

478
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: questions about how to introduce threesomes to the bedroom, like

479
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 1: how do I do it without you know, my partner

480
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 1: getting mad? And again that is just more so into

481
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 1: the communication aspect that push a lot because I think

482
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: a lot of us keep from doing things that we

483
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 1: would truly enjoy because we automatically fear that our partner

484
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: would be like hell no, when in fact, maybe y'all could, Yeah,

485
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 1: asked them to that something that you guys tried. Is

486
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 1: that something that you guys ended up making? We tried,

487
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: But here was the issue that I ran into. It

488
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 1: was just girls that he liked that he wanted to

489
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: bring in. It was it wasn't like a wee thing.

490
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 1: And then when I was like, well I'm not, I

491
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: feel nothing for that person, Like this is just my

492
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: number one threesome tip is always let the woman pick

493
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: and yeah, so that that makes sense to me. He's needed.

494
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: But I do believe that the issue is if one

495
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: person brings it up and then they're also one picking

496
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: the people, you feel completely exploded. You're like, okay, so

497
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 1: you just want to have your cake and eat it too.

498
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 1: That's realistically wondering how I feel about this person as well. Um,

499
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel I feel strange about that,

500
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: And I think that when introducing polyamory, you have to

501
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: at least confirm and not speaking for you friend, that

502
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: that person is interested in the same sex or opposite

503
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: sex or whatever it might be that you want to

504
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,199
Speaker 1: bring in. Just at least be sure of that at

505
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 1: least some alignment, which is why I kind of felt side.

506
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: So I buy that conversation so deep into it. But um,

507
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: the other thing too is that I sort of felt

508
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: like the person he had picked it was just someone

509
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 1: who was down and he was just like oh cool,

510
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: as opposed to it being someone he like genuinely met

511
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: and felt pulled towards, you know, like it was like

512
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: he just wanted to do this thing, and I was

513
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: like this is it felt childish in a way, and

514
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know, I didn't it didn't.

515
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,719
Speaker 1: It wasn't making sense to me. I would have preferred

516
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: if you would have met someone that he really was like, yo,

517
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but like I can't

518
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: stop thinking about this girl and I want to figure

519
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: something out. And so wasn't more of like him wanting

520
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: to bring another partner into the bedroom more so than

521
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: it was dating, and it was like dating. Yeah, he

522
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: wanted us to figure out a configuration. I love that

523
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: you're configuration. Go ahead and make it, make it real

524
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: that you know. I was just like, um, you know what.

525
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: I tried this and I'm not feeling it. And I

526
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: said to him, but I do think you're onto something clearly,

527
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: and you need to find the two people that are

528
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: going to give me with you. Maybe she could be

529
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: one on because it ain't gonna be me. And I

530
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: removed myself from the situation and we were cool. It

531
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: was like no, you know, no tension, nothing cod for

532
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: you though, because I think a lot of people would

533
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: like to salvage the relationship and you know what I mean,

534
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: like no, I really felt like I would rather remove

535
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: myself because I didn't want to push it to then

536
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: where he would start lying because I wouldn't you know,

537
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: I wasn't participating in the way that he wants. And

538
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: we've talked about that before. Is that a conversation and

539
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: I know that, you know, maybe he just came about

540
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: eight months into the relationship, but is that something that

541
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: you would prefer to maybe have on a first date?

542
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: How soon do you want to know the person that

543
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: you're dating, what type of relationship they want to go into.

544
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,239
Speaker 1: I don't know about the first date. I think for me,

545
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: first dates are light. You know, we don't need to

546
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: talk about like so can I bring in the press,

547
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: But at least in my mind, just a more natural

548
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: progression I'm assuming would be at least in the first

549
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: month that should come up at some point. I really yeah,

550
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree. I'll be honest with you, fran I.

551
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: The only reason I'm a little bit indifferent is because

552
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: so I feel like I'm a serial threesome person on

553
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: this show. But I just really love having both sexes,

554
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: Like it's just something I really enjoy, and I've found

555
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: that bringing it up too early makes it too messy

556
00:30:55,720 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: for me. I've found it like so with my current partner, Um,

557
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: we had a more serious relationship and it was one

558
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: of the first in a while where like I'd meet

559
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: a guy in a month or two and we'd be

560
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: down for threesomes. Whereas with him, he knew I was

561
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: into women, but they weren't included until I love these

562
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: were exchanged almost and I think that if I could

563
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: do it again, I don't know if I'd bring it

564
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: up too early, only because I think that it pushes

565
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: people away and I want to make sure there's a

566
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,959
Speaker 1: more salad solid foundation within the two of us before

567
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: I even know if we should do that, you know

568
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,719
Speaker 1: what I mean? That makes sense to me, But I

569
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,719
Speaker 1: know you don't want to be blindside and you're like,

570
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: so you've been wanting a fucking sister wife this whole time,

571
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: Like it's just you know, you know what it is.

572
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: I think for me it was more so like if

573
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: I'm with you, I want to know everything there is

574
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: to know about you, and I think that's something that's important,

575
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: you know, like if it almost felt like he had

576
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: been hiding a part of him in fear of rejection,

577
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: when maybe I wanted to be in on that. I

578
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: want to know if this is part of you, then

579
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: I should I'll be row with you outside looking at

580
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: him like I think Fran could be a throuble girl,

581
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: Like I might have to wait a minute too. Anyway.

582
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: Off the threat Ship, we have a segment you guys

583
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: called hoe facx um. It's really new to the show,

584
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: and we bring up a bunch of facts that h

585
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: holes may needed out he's got here. Yeah. Well, these

586
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: these facts I really like because they kind of bring

587
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: us into what our horrible decision is for this episode.

588
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: But the first UM whole fact that I found actually

589
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: UM goes out to all of us who had sex

590
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: quite early. UM. It says that sexual activity at an

591
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: early age has multiple harmful consequences. The earlier a teenage

592
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: girl begins sexual activity, the more likely she is to

593
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: suffer from increased rates of infection with sexually transmitted diseases,

594
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: increased rates of out of wedlock pregnancy and birth and

595
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: increased rate of single parenthood, decreased marital stability, and increased

596
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: maternal and child poverty, including increase abortion rates, increase suppression,

597
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: and decreased adults happiness. UM. And I actually find some

598
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: truth to this because there was a lot of things

599
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: that I was just unfamiliar with in terms of sex.

600
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: And I think that at an early age, you know, unfortunately,

601
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: we do think having sex with someone means a guy

602
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: likes us more than they may really like. UM. We

603
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: are taken advantage of more at a younger age because

604
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: we don't know how to really navigate sex. Also because

605
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: it's a conversation that unfortunately isn't really had in the

606
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: household or at school. You're literally taught to abstain from sex.

607
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: Just don't have it, or you're gonna get pregnant and die.

608
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: You know, like you're either gonna catch AIDS or you're

609
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: gonna fucking get pregnant and don't have sex, or you die. Um.

610
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: So I wanted. I wanted to go into the other

611
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: fact that was even interested in. I want to kind

612
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: of have a little bit of a dialogue about it.

613
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: It's still about the age of it, but it says

614
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: this is this is the fact. Most sexually active teens

615
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: say that they wished they had waited until they were

616
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: older before having sex. Nearly two thirds of sexually active

617
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: teens state that they regret their initial sexual activity and

618
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: wish that they had waited until they were older before

619
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: coming sexually active. I wanted to have this conversation because

620
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 1: I don't even really think we've had it. We've I mean,

621
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: I lost my virginity in high school, um, going into

622
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,720
Speaker 1: eleventh grade. I was sixteen, um, and I mean shipped

623
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: within my first year of having sex. I also got pregnant. Um. So, France,

624
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you do you regret the age

625
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: that you started having sex. Um. If so or if not,

626
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: can you explain your your thoughts about having it? Um No,

627
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 1: I had sex at eighteen. It was the summer after

628
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: I had graduated and I was heading to college and

629
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 1: I was in a committed relationship. We've been together for

630
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: I think two years at that point, and he was sad,

631
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: you know, he's like, you're leaving a college, You're gonna

632
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: forget him on me tailor's oldest time, you know, the

633
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: hood girl goes to college in her world explodes. He

634
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 1: was like so shook about it, and he was pushing it.

635
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: The only thing I will say, looking back, I wish

636
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: I had been, you know, more empowered to do it

637
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: because I wanted to as opposed to fit in like

638
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: it was something I should give to him, because I

639
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: wanted to kind of make him feel like we were

640
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: gonna be fine and college wasn't going to change our

641
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: relationship because he was being so pushy about it, and

642
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: I just gave in. So so I did want to.

643
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 1: So when you were I mean, because you waited till

644
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: after you were eighteen, and a lot of guys, you know,

645
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: are already having sex well before they're eighteen. Is it

646
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: something a where you know, you had the conversation of

647
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: allowing him to have sex with other people because you

648
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: were saving your virginity or like, what was that? Was

649
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 1: that even a conversation because he wanted it but you

650
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: weren't giving it to him. It was a conversation, but

651
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: it wasn't funny enough. It wasn't a thing that was

652
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,240
Speaker 1: like coming up regularly. He just knew that he wasn't

653
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: and and truth be told, he was sucking other people.

654
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 1: I just didn't know. I was, you know, oblivious, thinking

655
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: this is my cute little boyfriend. And I found that

656
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: out later, which is, you know, probably why he was

657
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: so chill about it for the most part, because he

658
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: was getting it anyway, but but he really didn't bother me.

659
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: I think it was when he thought, ship, she's about

660
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: to go off to college, she's gonna be in the dorms.

661
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: There's gonna be dudes in the dorms. And he started

662
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: getting antsy about it, and so that's where the pushing

663
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: is kind of kicked in, you know how dudes can be.

664
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: He's like, nah, I'm sorry, do you wish you would

665
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: have waited longer before having sex. You know, I think

666
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,919
Speaker 1: I wish I would have waited maybe before having other

667
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: experiences like going out to the club and stuff like that.

668
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 1: I think that was the influence of friends not having

669
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: sex really, but um no, I mean when I made

670
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 1: the choice to have sex. Um I'm not talking about

671
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: other experiences where you know, I would say they weren't

672
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: my choice. But when I made my choice to have

673
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 1: sex for the first time, like, yeah, I was ready,

674
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: I was in love with him. Like I don't really

675
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 1: count it as like what was I gonna do wait

676
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: another year and have been more. You know, I saved

677
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 1: it for someone that I really cared about, and I

678
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 1: mean told I'm still cool with him to this day.

679
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: So I think, Yeah, I think when you pick decent partners,

680
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying that I always do. I've definitely

681
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: fucked some niggering ship. But even now, like I've always

682
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: been a very emotional person, you know what I'm saying,

683
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: Like I didn't want to funk just to get it

684
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: over with, Like I wanted to suck someone that I

685
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: cared about, and even if that energy wasn't exchanged, like

686
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: even if they maybe didn't feel the same way about me,

687
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: I'll never be mad about that, because at least I

688
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: felt it. I was gonna say, it's funny because the

689
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: person that I lost my virginity to. Um. Recently, maybe

690
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: within the last year, my mom and my sister got

691
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 1: in a group chat with me because they found his

692
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 1: Facebook and they were like, oh my god, look at

693
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: so and so now and with girl. He's locked up,

694
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 1: he's in jail. And I'm like, and he got two kids. Um,

695
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: And it's crazy because like, I had the hugest crush

696
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,959
Speaker 1: on this boy in middle school. Okay, I had the

697
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: hugest crush on him. Um. I was a sixth grader.

698
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 1: He was an eighth grade on my whole right. Of

699
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: course he of course he was on the basketball team.

700
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 1: He was beautiful, he had these long braids and green eyes.

701
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: He was fucking he was so cute and um he

702
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: he of course, like he kept coming back to the

703
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: middle school even when I was in seventh and eighth grade,

704
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: so we stayed connected, like because he still always came

705
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: to the after school program. And anyways, we we we

706
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 1: had each other's phone number. I had a cell phone

707
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: in middle school and so, um, it was the summer

708
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: going into tenth grade and at this time I was

709
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: braidened hair. I knew how to braid hair, and so

710
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 1: I told him I would do his hair. So he

711
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: came over one day and while my mom was at work,

712
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: and bitch, the braiding hair turned into a little bit more.

713
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: And now were you like giving it? It was my

714
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 1: first time? No, no, no, no, no. It's crazy because

715
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: I think the most I had done at this point,

716
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 1: mind you, I think seventh grade was my first tongue

717
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: kiss and I absolutely hated tongu kissing. I thought it

718
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: was gross and um. In my eighth grade I had

719
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: had like my titty sucked behind the gym, but I've

720
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: never I had never sucked a dick. I never had.

721
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 1: I didn't do anything, and he like pretty much walked

722
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: me through it. But it was like, yeah, in the

723
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: middle of me braiding his hair, um, and so like

724
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: it's weird because it was someone who I had a

725
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 1: crush on for so long. I would think, if if

726
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: anyone was gonna take my virginity, oh my god, it

727
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: would be him. Um. And yeah, it wasn't that enjoyable.

728
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 1: I don't remember it being that great. We never had

729
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: X again. I didn't really go back to him. But

730
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: it definitely opened the door to like, you know, curiosity

731
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 1: that great. I feel like when I lost my virgin

732
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: day though I didn't know what was good Like I

733
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: mean neither, I didn't know what was good either. I

734
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: don't even remember. To be honest, I don't. I can't

735
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: remember what it felt like. You don't remember your first time.

736
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: I remember what happened, but I don't remember what it

737
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: felt like. I don't know if I like blocked it

738
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: out or what, but I just don't remember the details

739
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: of it. Well, I'm excited to um again. Guys. Before

740
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: we get into our whole decision, I want to let

741
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: you know, um, we were we were gonna have Fran

742
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: tell her story about her journey through sex because it's

743
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: quite interesting because the girl ain't having sex no more, y'all. Um.

744
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775
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Speaker 1: we got friend. So so, guys, um, we brought Fran

776
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 1: onto the episode this week because although we talk about

777
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: a lot of sex, they're also is a part of

778
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: sex that has to do we're not having sex. We've

779
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 1: had a few friends on this show that talk about

780
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: not having sex, a few small experiences Mandy with her

781
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 1: favorite lie don't do this, and that basically happens whenever

782
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: she's tired. Don't don't do it. I ain't gonna hold you.

783
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: So what's crazy is I recently talked about being abstinent,

784
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: and so this was definitely a conversation. I wanted to

785
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,439
Speaker 1: have to have Fran not only on air, but off air,

786
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: just to really, um kind of mentally prepare myself. I

787
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: ain't gonna hold y'all. The problem is, Fran, let me

788
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: tell you real quick before we get into your story.

789
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: So I want to be abstinent. This quarantine life is

790
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: helping me be abstinent. Well, the problem is I still

791
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: really want to have sex with that last nick I

792
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: had sex with again. So I feel like, tell me

793
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: if I could be abstinent to the world, and I

794
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: could be abstinent on this podcast, but on the low

795
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: only for that nigga, but not let anybody else knowl

796
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: So even if I go on dates, I just tell

797
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: them I'm actually abstinent right now, but on the low bitch,

798
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 1: I'm still getting I like your answer. I like you perpendicularly.

799
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: I hope that you tell you know what I really

800
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: need to just break this ice. I know Mandy's got

801
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: stuff written in and what celibency means and did it

802
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: I suck it. I just gotta know you need to

803
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: get into We will, but I want to know one

804
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 1: question before we get into it, because this is a

805
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: podcast when we gotta flow, and I've a motherfucking waiting

806
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: how long we've been recorded. Let me check thirty you

807
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 1: masturbate or not? Of course, how frequently? How wow? I

808
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,240
Speaker 1: don't think I'm on the schedule to be hard to say,

809
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: it's just whenever do you think that masturbation has led

810
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: you to the brink of almost stopping celibacy. Has it

811
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: helped you? Yeah, of course, because it's it's helped you

812
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: pushed through Well, yeah, because it's making sure that I'm

813
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 1: still experiencing pleasure. I don't need someone else to feel

814
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: that way. So it's not it's not amazing. It's not

815
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: a thing of like, oh my god, now I have

816
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 1: to come you know, call someone. It's like that's exactly

817
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: what I needed and who better to do it than me,

818
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: especially right now. So amazing. So when friend, you would

819
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: consider yourself abstinent or cell from my understanding of the definition,

820
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: celibacy has more of a religious connotation, which is why

821
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: I'm doing it. So I would say I'm abstaining, okay,

822
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: And I did because I know we use them kind

823
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: of intertrain and and yeah, and I went on I

824
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,240
Speaker 1: went on UM Twitter recently and talked about being abstinent,

825
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: and they were like, oh, you're about to have celibacy,

826
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 1: and like, so I know they're interchangeable. I did just

827
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: want to break down really really quickly, UM, what the

828
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 1: difference is for those of you who may be considering

829
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: um entering it. A vow of celibacy is one's voluntary

830
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: decision to remain unmarried and refrain from sexual activity and

831
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: sexual relations for the sake of fulfilling a religious vow.

832
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 1: It can be seen as a lifestyle choice where you

833
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: commit your body and soul to other more fulfilling things.

834
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: Sexual abstinence, however, is the form also of self control

835
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 1: that is usually limited to a certain period of time,

836
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 1: and the reason for choosing such lifestyle vary from person

837
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 1: to person. This is where we're gonna get into your

838
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 1: motherfucker story, houst So before how long has it been

839
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: since you had sex? Friends? Both of July weekend will

840
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: be four years? Why you made it sound like a

841
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:06,240
Speaker 1: last fun thing, because you know, is it your first

842
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: time being abstinent? Yes? Was it induced by like a

843
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: fucking asshole that broke your heart? Or was it a

844
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: personal choice? For it's such a good story, It wasn't.

845
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: I can't blame him. It was definitely a relationship that

846
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 1: did not turn out how I thought it would be,

847
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: and and you know, got a little dark between us.

848
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: Actually we're still very good friends. So it's not even

849
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: how long was that relationship he that's the one that

850
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: was nearly four years ago. So when we broke up,

851
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: that's when I made the decision to abstain. Moving forward, So,

852
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: what was your sex life like prior to becoming abstinent.

853
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 1: I have always been in relationships like serial monogamous. I

854
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 1: guess you'd say, Um, did you enjoy sex at all?

855
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 1: Was it something that was that that that you did

856
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: often and you enjoyed absolutely? I just want to but

857
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: before you know, I want to get into kind of

858
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: just even the conversation of if you felt your sex

859
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: life was healthy, if you did get to experiment things,

860
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: because a lot of people like going into abstinence, it

861
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: would probably be easier for those where sex is not

862
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: that important in relationships. So I want to know, because

863
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: you were the relationship type, how important was that extremely important?

864
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: I mean everyone that I was in a relationship with

865
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 1: we had healthy sex lives, curiosity, you know, we brought

866
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: in whatever we needed to like. It was never sex

867
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 1: itself was never the issue. I think for me, what

868
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: made me kind of put a pause to it was

869
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 1: early on, my patterns with the types of people I

870
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 1: was dating was modeled after my dad's patterns. And you know,

871
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: both of my parents are like emotionally unavailable people, and

872
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: my dad is just sort of charming, kind of like

873
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: he's a playboy. So this day he has like a

874
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: twenty three year old girlfriend, like you know, and that

875
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: sounds like my right, Like he's never gonna chill, he's

876
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: never gonna settle down and ends. When I was younger,

877
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: it was so hard getting his attention and he just

878
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: pretty much didn't prioritize me as even like a family bond.

879
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: He just very early on was like I don't want

880
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,919
Speaker 1: to be a dad, not to you. Yeah, and so

881
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: he ended up moving on. He had it funny enough,

882
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: he had a double life. He had my mom and

883
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: in the projects and then his white wife that they

884
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: were in the navy together with their picket fence and

885
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: their two kids and their dog and so to dual

886
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: experiences and so well, yeah, when we found that, it

887
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: was hurtful because it was like we were kind of

888
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: like left in the dust. Um and then and that

889
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: helped shape how you dated. It was production to men,

890
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: or I should say my perception of men. Is that

891
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: why because you were a relationship person, because well, yeah,

892
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: it was. What what happened is I would play these

893
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,919
Speaker 1: really unhealthy games early on where I would get men

894
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: to want me, and it was like the chase was

895
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: the high for me because it was almost like I

896
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: was recreating that pattern of like I needed to know

897
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 1: that I could be loved type thing, and once I

898
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: was loved, it was like, oh that's it's all I

899
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 1: need to know. And I would either start cheating or

900
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: you know, uh lead them on and play games, but

901
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: never allowed myself to build any kind of real attachments.

902
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 1: So even though it was monogamy, it was still uh

903
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: not coming from like a heart centered place. It was

904
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: always me just trying to almost like work through the

905
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: daddy issues and the mommy issues and all those things

906
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 1: through these people. And then that gets exhausting after a while,

907
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: you know, because you think you're being a savage and

908
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: it's fun, and you know, my grandma and my mom

909
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: thought it was amazing. They were like I'd rather them

910
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 1: crying than you, you know, that type of encouragement. So

911
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: it was just really interesting to see how those patterns

912
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: developed as you're you know, getting older. Uh And then

913
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: like I always say, I met my match, someone who

914
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: was older and could see right through me and was like,

915
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 1: I know exactly what's going on with you. I know

916
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: what these patterns, I know where it's coming from. Let's

917
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: sit down, talk this through, hash it out, because I

918
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: actually care for you and I want to develop like

919
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: a healthy attachment to you and not this bullshit that

920
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: you're just like afraid to be hurt or I'm not

921
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 1: your dad. Essentially, that was the conversation, and he helped me.

922
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 1: He helped bring awareness. Could you initially when you started,

923
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: you know, your journey with absence, did you initially have

924
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: a time frame set in your head? And like, have

925
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 1: you surpassed it at any point? No? No, there was

926
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: no time frame. It's been intuitive the whole time. Did

927
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 1: you did you have a minimum that you like, I

928
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 1: have to at least do this for like six months? No,

929
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: not at all. Honestly, it wasn't a thing of like

930
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 1: that said, I'm not having sex for years. It was

931
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: just like, right now, I don't see how this is

932
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 1: serving me. Um, I wasn't. I ke I kept dating

933
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: h the same person in a different body in a way,

934
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: so I kept seeing the same pattern show up. And

935
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: that's when I was like, there's a common denominator in

936
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: that formula. So I wanted to sit for a second.

937
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: It's crazy because I think that and I yeah, yeah,

938
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: Like I mean, I opened up about that recently kind

939
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 1: of just where I now see kind of the toxicity

940
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: in my sexual relations with men and how I'm lacking

941
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: the emotional connection to them, um, because I seek that

942
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: kind of physical connection, and even if I if I

943
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 1: become you know, just a little bit more deeper, unvoteable

944
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: as to that, I know that a lot of it

945
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: kind of does have to do it also how I

946
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: viewed my dad. My dad um cheated. I met all

947
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: of his girlfriends, We knew all the girlfriends, all the fame.

948
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 1: Sometimes some times we got confused with what we did

949
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: with which one UM and then for a long time,

950
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: my dad put emphasis on material things, the fact that

951
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: he had more money than my mom, so he was

952
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: the person we went to for money, which is kind

953
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 1: of my financial connection to men, because my dad never

954
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: told us no. If we wanted money, he gave it

955
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 1: to us. If we wanted the name brand shoes for

956
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: school that my mom couldn't afford, he rubbed it in

957
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: that he could get us the name branch shoes. But

958
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: we also weren't with him often, and so I've I've

959
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: realized now that kind of, you know, that lack of

960
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: emotion that I saw from my mom and my dad

961
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,439
Speaker 1: is where I'm having a problem get connecting with men

962
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 1: now in a sense that's more than physical financially or sexually. Um,

963
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: And it's kind of why I do want to go

964
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: into these journeys of abstinence. And I want to ask

965
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 1: you initially with going into abstinence, is it are you

966
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: waiting for the right person to give it to? And

967
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: when do you know it's the person? I mean, I

968
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: will say that's kind of what challenging now because it's

969
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: been so many damn years. So I was like, damn,

970
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: it's almost like I've made it too serious in a way,

971
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 1: like you know, how do you I mean, I want

972
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 1: to say I waited too long because it is what

973
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: it is, you know, but it is I mean to

974
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: a certain extent. It's like, yeah, how do you just

975
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 1: like fuck someone after not sucking? Oh? Well, this would

976
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: be something new for me? And I do you know

977
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,879
Speaker 1: often date? Whether I meet someone on Instagram or I'm

978
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 1: out and about or you know, I'm finding someone to

979
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: talk to that's new. What is the response when you're

980
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 1: dating and meeting new people and you tell them just

981
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 1: I just want to let you know I'm absent. I've

982
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: been absent for four years, and it's something that I

983
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: need someone special to come around before I have sex.

984
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 1: Do our men seeing that as a challenge or are

985
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,760
Speaker 1: they seeing that as a red flag and not wanting

986
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: to pursue you. I haven't even dated gods, haven't been this. Yeah.

987
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: The abstinence isn't just not fucking. It's like it's just

988
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: not a part of my life that I was entertaining period,

989
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 1: like that masculine energy or connection. I just wasn't participating. UM.

990
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: I did have another question on here that I wanted

991
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: to ask you, Um, what things have you then learned

992
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: about yourself over the last four years? UM, I know

993
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 1: you took you kind of took a step back and

994
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: looked at what things were toxic and that you were,

995
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: you know, dating the same type of men. Um you

996
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 1: were kind of conflicting with your childhood, with your with

997
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 1: your father. What things once you eliminated sex, once you

998
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: eliminated sex, what things did you learn about yourself that

999
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: that you appreciate it. I mean, honestly, it's been really

1000
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: cool just seeing being able to like honestly dissect myself.

1001
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: Like I'm realizing how controlling I am in relationships because

1002
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: I want the person to be a very specific way,

1003
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 1: and so you know, my expectations sometimes or borderline unrealistic.

1004
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: And I think what I'm learning now, especially through the

1005
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: friendships that I have and even just through myself and

1006
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: being accountable for my own mistakes and you know, ebbs

1007
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: and flows, it's just like you accept the person as

1008
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 1: they are or you keep it moving. It's not a

1009
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 1: thing like you telling the person you have to do X,

1010
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: Y and Z for me to be with you. Like

1011
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 1: that part of me had to go because I had,

1012
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 1: you know, I had this thing where I wanted to

1013
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: bend people's will to mine. And it's like, once again,

1014
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: that's the same pattern of me trying to fix some

1015
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: ship with my dad through these men, and it's like

1016
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: that's who they are and if you don't funk with it,

1017
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,439
Speaker 1: then just leave. And it's that it's easier said than done,

1018
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 1: but that's the reality of what's going to be healthiest

1019
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 1: for you in these dynamics. So I know, um, you've

1020
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: got the listeners probably hurt me about my headphones. You

1021
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: guys aren't able to hear me. But I'm curious to

1022
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 1: know because everything you're talking about to me, is it

1023
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 1: has a deeper thought process. I want to know your

1024
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 1: last super lusty moment, like what was the last when

1025
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 1: was the last time or the last night you can

1026
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:10,760
Speaker 1: think about where you almost got close, almost got close.

1027
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: No I haven't. I have not I have Like I said,

1028
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 1: I have not dated. So I haven't been in that

1029
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 1: space where a man and I are like staring at

1030
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 1: each other and I'm like, suck it. It's just not

1031
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,399
Speaker 1: a thing. What about producing like have you you've been

1032
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 1: on have you been on dates? And has kissing gotten

1033
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 1: you close? Like you know what's funny? I actually just

1034
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 1: kissed someone, maybe like a month ago, for the first

1035
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: time and a long time. But it was someone that

1036
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: has been in my life, so it's not like someone new.

1037
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 1: It's someone that I wasn't incredible if it was nice

1038
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: to connect again, you know, and and the person is

1039
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: someone that I love and trust and they know everything

1040
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 1: about me. So it just felt safe and kind of

1041
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: like a reintroduction to being physical. But it was like

1042
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: in a really cool, soft way, not like a thing

1043
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 1: of me, just like running out there being like I'm

1044
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 1: ready in a in a a shittier way to ask,

1045
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 1: I'm curious, what are you waiting for and not how

1046
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: not how that that's normally said to people, But like,

1047
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: if you really had to answer this, like what are

1048
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 1: you waiting for? What would be the instance and where

1049
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: it would happen for you? What I'm not waiting for

1050
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 1: anything in particular, I wish I had the answer, I'd

1051
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: be lying, you don't know yet, I'd have no idea.

1052
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: I just trust that when I am ready to do it,

1053
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 1: it's just going to happen, and I'm not going to

1054
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: overthink it, and the person is just gonna make me

1055
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: feel that way and inspired me into change in this

1056
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: four year Do you find honestly what I was going

1057
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: to say. What I really like about just hearing you

1058
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: with your story is more so how you took the

1059
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: selfishness away. Um. I felt like you've really thought that

1060
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: you were being mentally abusing to the men that you dated,

1061
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: and it wasn't fair to them, And so what you

1062
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 1: did was take look back and wanted to eliminate yourself

1063
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 1: from hurting other people you know and yourself. Yeah, and

1064
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: so until I guess maybe you've reached the point mentally

1065
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 1: where you know you're able to not hurt someone else.

1066
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: I would say maybe that's an answer, And I know

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00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: that a lot of us don't know ourselves. I like,

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00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: I told you, like, just with this quarantine, I'm like

1069
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 1: really taking a look at ways that I've been toxic

1070
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 1: and how I even just communicate with men. Um. So

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00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 1: I just want to say that I really like that

1072
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 1: you're taking the selfishness out of it, where you're no

1073
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: longer using and abusing these men for their time or

1074
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 1: their emotions or making them you know, chase you because

1075
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 1: it's fulfilling. Yeah, no, it's true. And honestly, after that relationship,

1076
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: but I said the person um that kind of sat

1077
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: me down and brought a lot of this into my awareness.

1078
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: The funny thing is then I went to the other

1079
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 1: extreme after him, where I was like the hippie really

1080
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: came out when I was like, I love everyone and

1081
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna hurt anyone. But then what happened is

1082
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 1: I had no boundaries. So now my heart was open

1083
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 1: and ready to like connect. And then I attracted someone

1084
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 1: who was on the same shift I was on before,

1085
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 1: you know, and so now he was running and I

1086
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: was chasing, and I was like, oh ship, okay, So

1087
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: you know, how then does this work? Because It's like,

1088
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 1: in a way, it all happened so perfectly. It's like

1089
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 1: I needed to be hard, I needed to soften up.

1090
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 1: And now I think why I'm at is that that

1091
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,479
Speaker 1: gray space where it's like you don't have to be hard,

1092
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 1: but you don't have to love everyone either, and you

1093
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: have to learn your boundaries and what works, like what

1094
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 1: actually went, which I gotta I got a life coach.

1095
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 1: I'm looking because now therapists are a little cheaper with

1096
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 1: with with the quarantine COVID ninety. But bitch, we've about

1097
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 1: to be on the phone because I feel like after cheaper,

1098
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 1: I feel like more people know they are cheaper. I

1099
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: mean because you know you're not having to go to

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00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 1: I mean they're not you know, everything is kind of virtual,

1101
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 1: so you're not really even given the option to go

1102
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 1: to their practice to their practice. So because they're doing

1103
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: things over the phone and virtually they're able to charge

1104
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: less um per hour because I mean, you're not even

1105
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 1: leaving the comfort of your home. Friend, um, so I

1106
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: wanted to get into our homemail. This is really interesting

1107
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: and I think we all I mean, when I read it,

1108
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 1: I was like, Damn, did did I date this? Nigga?

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01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 1: Phone because I am one of these people, especially being

1110
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: someone who wants to date someone of power or who's

1111
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 1: financially successful. So our homemaale today comes from a male

1112
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 1: listener and fran if you can give some of your

1113
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 1: kids wheezy, same for you. So this comes from a

1114
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 1: long time listener. He needs help from the female audience.

1115
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:48,919
Speaker 1: Vitals thirty five black male. That's what he said, hitch

1116
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 1: like he's like he's artificial intelligence. Um, he's from the Midwest.

1117
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 1: He's an engineer. And the short version of what he's

1118
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 1: asking is what doesn't mean when a woman is complaining

1119
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 1: about having to quote unquote fit into my world or

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01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 1: quote unquote having to lose herself in order to be

1121
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 1: with me. Any of these emotions sound familiar to you,

1122
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 1: all hell to anybody, So I wanna um read kind

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01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 1: of some context. He is in like three to five

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01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 1: different service organizations actively not to mention, he hits the

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01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: gym a lot, he plays sports in He's a landlord

1126
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 1: chick side chick side day work, then go home and

1127
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: watch TV. They feel like I never have time for them.

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01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 1: But even if I spend an entire day with them,

1129
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 1: say Friday and Saturday, when Sunday comes and I need

1130
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 1: to do some prep or something for work. It's a problem,

1131
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 1: like hurt, you don't never spend time with me. He

1132
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 1: really thinks I just spent forty eight hours with you,

1133
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 1: and the response is always yeah, but we only did

1134
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:50,959
Speaker 1: ship that you wanted to do again. Um, he tried

1135
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: to pull all the important things forward, but that's paraphrasing.

1136
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 1: He wants to know, I am. I know, I'm busy

1137
01:01:57,760 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 1: and I need to cut the ship out to carve

1138
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 1: out space for them in my life. But I'm not

1139
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: doing that after one month of dating. What should I do?

1140
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 1: So it's funny because I've mentioned my issue with dating guys.

1141
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 1: You know, I do date men who make a lot

1142
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 1: of money. They have a lot of power, and with

1143
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 1: dating them, they don't really bend to my schedule at all.

1144
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: And so I've had this issue with dating even the

1145
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 1: most recent guy I was talking to, Um, he lives,

1146
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 1: he works on Wall Street, and he was the same way. Well,

1147
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 1: at five, I am, I'm in the gym, then I

1148
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 1: go to work, then I commute. Then I had like

1149
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 1: he had his kind of schedule, and so when it

1150
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,439
Speaker 1: came to us trying to figure out times to date.

1151
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,439
Speaker 1: It didn't matter that I was in town from tour

1152
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 1: for only two days. He didn't really bend his schedule

1153
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 1: at all to mine, And I was like, well, I

1154
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 1: don't want to bend my life to date you do you?

1155
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure you're a great for people, you think, because

1156
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 1: I know so. I don't think that has to do

1157
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 1: with interest, like I don't. I don't bend my routine.

1158
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 1: I mean, but it's not only out Like so, say

1159
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 1: I'm going to the studio one day, I'll let you know, Hey,

1160
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 1: I'm going to the studio. I'll be out by five.

1161
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 1: Let's plan something since I'll already be in the studio.

1162
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 1: I bend it that way, like I will try to

1163
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 1: make you work unto my schedule but still be pretty

1164
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 1: free flowing. Or hey, if the evening doesn't work, I'll

1165
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 1: leave to the city earlier. Let's do lunch before I

1166
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 1: go to the studio. You know what I mean? And

1167
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 1: I think that a lot of the men that I

1168
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 1: talked to specifically when they want to see me is

1169
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 1: just like I'll tell them I'm free Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.

1170
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 1: They're hitting me like can I fly you out on Tuesday?

1171
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 1: Nigga that wasn't even a day. I gave you three

1172
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 1: days and you still don't want um, So, I guess, Frean,

1173
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 1: have you ever I mean, when you were dating had

1174
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 1: the issue where you felt like the people you dated

1175
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 1: either had to bend to your schedule or nothing, or

1176
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 1: did you ever deal with a guy that that was

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01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 1: that way? And how do you go about fixing them? Um? No,

1178
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 1: I think you set the tone early on, so if

1179
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 1: I didn't bend it in the beginning, they wouldn't expect it.

1180
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 1: And so I think it's just a matter of like

1181
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 1: setting that quick so they know it's not even an option,

1182
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:07,959
Speaker 1: and then and then really like following through too, because

1183
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 1: sometimes you could pretend and then kind of like be like,

1184
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 1: all right, I'll see you, but it's like, no, I

1185
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 1: can't see, like these are the options. I actually like

1186
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 1: that you said that because it's one of the things

1187
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 1: that I'm doing in dating now. Like, if you're a

1188
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 1: bad communicator early, that's not going to change at all.

1189
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 1: If you're not, if you're not willing to bend your

1190
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 1: schedule early, that's probably not going to change. And so

1191
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 1: I look at the early signs of things that I

1192
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 1: don't like, and I decide if that's something I want

1193
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 1: to continue. I think the communication right, but the schedule thing,

1194
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 1: Like the person that I'm with now is my boyfriend,

1195
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 1: and he had way less time for me when we

1196
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 1: were just casually dating because as he didn't prioritize me.

1197
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 1: It's very very vocal about that. Afterward, I'm like, nigga,

1198
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 1: now you can and he was like, I mean, I

1199
01:04:56,440 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 1: just because you matter, right. But also there's another interesting

1200
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 1: thing that I talked about with him that kind of

1201
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 1: made a little sense, Like he was like, you know,

1202
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 1: in the beginning, even when I kind of wanted to

1203
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 1: see you, there were so many days that both of

1204
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 1: us had and we weren't at the point where we

1205
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 1: could just hang in each other's house. This is a

1206
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 1: different phase now because now we're comfortable off enough to

1207
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 1: where you could be in my house before I get home,

1208
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 1: or we could pick okay, yeah, we could do last

1209
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 1: minute things. And it's not offensive because the nigga would

1210
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 1: hit me up sometimes like you free to you free

1211
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 1: in an hour? No, I'm not fucking free in an

1212
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 1: hour because you're in the Lower East Side. But like

1213
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 1: that I just felt like was so thoughtless and it

1214
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 1: and it really hurt my feelings. And I think that

1215
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 1: like a lot of people are so busy and worked

1216
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 1: in their stuff for dating that they just got to

1217
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 1: get past that first part to where they can get

1218
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 1: to that comfortable stage. And it sucks. Um. I do

1219
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 1: want to add that the person in the email um

1220
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 1: wrote right after I don't know Mandy read it, read it,

1221
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 1: but yeah, no, I never mind this ship long and

1222
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 1: I don't even know if it made sense just easier

1223
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 1: to break up and move on. I mean I've broke

1224
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 1: I mean I broke it up a little bit. I

1225
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 1: didn't read the whole email, but um, he he pretty

1226
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 1: much just decided to move on, which I think that

1227
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 1: that's the space that I'm in. If I like to me,

1228
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 1: I do miss the stage of butterflies. I missed the

1229
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 1: stage of really liking a guy even early. And so

1230
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 1: for that, if I feel like you're a headache early,

1231
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 1: that's not what I want. I don't want to have

1232
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 1: to like fight to see you. I don't want it

1233
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 1: to be an argument early, you know what I mean,

1234
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 1: because then it's just like there's no way this can

1235
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 1: get better. But also, why is this so stressful so early?

1236
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 1: That's just a misalignment for me, and I think as

1237
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:39,439
Speaker 1: your majority kicks into That's what I was saying about

1238
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 1: the old me wanting to like bend shit. It's like,

1239
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 1: let's not even do that. If it doesn't work, it

1240
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 1: doesn't work, and it's fine. Now I agree. I mean,

1241
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 1: I guess right now, for dating, I mean ship, I

1242
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:54,479
Speaker 1: don't even know how people are really dating. I will say,

1243
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 1: to let me give a p s A out there,

1244
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 1: because I too have irresponsible friends that I do not

1245
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 1: fucking understand. We're locked down. We probably not even gonna

1246
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 1: have a summer. We talked about it earlier every time.

1247
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 1: What are your friends? Because because now I have friends

1248
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 1: that are literally going like inviting strangers today, like still

1249
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 1: on dating apps, and because they didn't, you know, because

1250
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 1: before the whole coronavirus ship happened, they weren't seeing anyone seriously.

1251
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 1: So yes, they're on dating apps, but girl, now they're

1252
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 1: having them niggas come over, and I'm just like, why

1253
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 1: are you inviting strangers? I don't think that there's really

1254
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 1: a good way to vet if someone is social distancing,

1255
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 1: you know, can you even tell me who are that

1256
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 1: nigga lives with? Or what? What? Which of his family

1257
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 1: members are in the same city who he's visiting. I

1258
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 1: just really think it's irresponsistancing thing. Honestly, it's I know,

1259
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 1: someone that got coronavirus that hasn't been around anyone that is,

1260
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 1: um assuming they got it from going to Whole Foods,

1261
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 1: and you know, it's it's just like I think that

1262
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 1: also there is a problem with how when TV and

1263
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 1: news makes it something so scary, it's sometimes you can

1264
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 1: almost rebel against it. And if you're one of those

1265
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 1: people that are almost like a lot of my quote

1266
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 1: unquote woke friends, they're like, not that they don't believe

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Speaker 1: in coronavirus, because they do, but it's almost like they

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01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 1: feel like, oh, this is about to be martial law.

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01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 1: Oh they've forced us to be in a house. They're

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01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 1: making us scared of everybody. We're not going to know

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01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 1: how to communicate with each other. And when that kind

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01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 1: of ship happens, people start to, you know, repel away

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01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 1: from what the fund is going on. I, for one,

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01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 1: even though I am practicing social distancing and I have

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01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 1: two people in my life that I quarantine with, which

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01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 1: is my boyfriend Charde, but other than that, I don't

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01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't click on the news unless

1278
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 1: it's really serious, or at least it's it's like something

1279
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 1: I need to catch up on a headline because it

1280
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 1: is starting to make me worried, make me have anxiety.

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01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 1: And I think that what's happening is people that want

1282
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 1: to at some of that social piece of their life

1283
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 1: back feel like it's safe because it's just one other person,

1284
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 1: but one of them to seven people, they've said, and

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01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 1: that's by just coming into contact with two and having

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01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 1: touch in other places. So I mean it's crazy. Yeah, no,

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01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 1: it is. I will say I do enjoy the social

1288
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 1: distancing when I do go grocery shopping, like bitch, step back,

1289
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:26,719
Speaker 1: get your car, get your card off my ankles, hope,

1290
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:29,639
Speaker 1: like I do enjoy like go back to the line.

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01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 1: Do you see the tape on the floor, that's where

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01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 1: you need to be standing back? The funk up? Um,

1293
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 1: how are you going through because you have a very

1294
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 1: close knit of of friends friends, how are you doing

1295
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 1: with the social distancing with your friends? And are you

1296
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 1: holding the irresponsible ones accountable or questioning you know what

1297
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 1: they're doing. I'm not, Um, They're all adults at the

1298
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 1: end of the day. The most I can do is

1299
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 1: if if I feel scared to be around them because

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01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to get six and I just won't

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01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 1: be around them. But honestly, everyone's been social distancing, and

1302
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 1: even the ones, it's maybe one or two that haven't.

1303
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 1: I'm just like, you know, the risk, so it's on you.

1304
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 1: If you get sick, you just have to ride the wave,

1305
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I but we have been

1306
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:15,639
Speaker 1: on zoom just like having a date nights. A couple

1307
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:17,559
Speaker 1: of my friends we do it like once a week

1308
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 1: where we just like put on our robes and put

1309
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:22,640
Speaker 1: on masks and kind of catch up on how the

1310
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 1: week has been and then you know, doing I just

1311
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 1: did the group face time for the first time with

1312
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 1: like eight people. It's tear. I hate it. It's fair

1313
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 1: or hate it. And it's like I'm always getting a

1314
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 1: group and the way that it's like bases around and

1315
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 1: re sizes based on who's talking, and I'm like, this

1316
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 1: is so it's you know, but I mean we're figuring

1317
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 1: out ways to just like keep each other lighthearted and

1318
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 1: enters to have something on the calendar though doing almost

1319
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,879
Speaker 1: like cooking kind of nights. Um shut up to Christopher

1320
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 1: who's listening. It's funny because like he'll write our group

1321
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 1: chat and be like like as any went in the

1322
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 1: mood to talk because you know we have the free time.

1323
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And honestly, I sometimes I don't,

1324
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 1: you know, say I'm getting in these weird cocoon modes.

1325
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 1: Were like, so when I'm five days out of the week,

1326
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 1: I'm with my man and I'll ride my bike home

1327
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 1: for like two days just for a break and whatever,

1328
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 1: and um, when I'm home, I actually prefer to not

1329
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 1: talk to anybody because I'm I'm in that nigga face

1330
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 1: for five days. You know what I'm saying, Like, because

1331
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 1: your home does me you're available to learn that available,

1332
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:33,720
Speaker 1: don't expect is ignoring me. It's so crazy because that's

1333
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:36,679
Speaker 1: something that I've I've realized. I got the two niggas

1334
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 1: offered to bring the asses over your One offered to

1335
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 1: hop on a plane. The other offered to bring his

1336
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 1: ass from Brooklyn. And it's funny because I had my

1337
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:48,600
Speaker 1: first my first like, well, bitch, I nap. I like

1338
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 1: to sit on this side of my couch. I like

1339
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:51,759
Speaker 1: this side of my bed and I don't want anyone

1340
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,680
Speaker 1: interrupting that, so even though I had the option all

1341
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 1: the mind you, I'm not interested in having any either

1342
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 1: of their dicks. So it really is an enticing but

1343
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 1: also just the idea of damn, I gotta talk to you.

1344
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 1: I have to entertain you. And I've been so like

1345
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 1: in my cocoon of my house, which don't feel like

1346
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 1: the entertaining pressure because honestly, I think it's just the

1347
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 1: person being around, Like we're silent for a few hours.

1348
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 1: We'll read together on separate sides of the house, like

1349
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:21,680
Speaker 1: there's a lot of silence that goes on, but you

1350
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:23,479
Speaker 1: just know it's almost like the cat. The cat can't

1351
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:25,680
Speaker 1: talk to you, but you know, girl to cat be

1352
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 1: talking to me. This motherfucker every morning at seven am,

1353
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 1: round round through the door because he can't sleep. He

1354
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 1: can because I want to get a cat. I'm not

1355
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 1: gonna lie. I absolutely, I guess for those of you

1356
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 1: who are introverts, I mean extroverts that are kind of

1357
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 1: feeling the pressure of not being around people. Mind you,

1358
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 1: I'm single, I live by myself. I don't have a partner,

1359
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 1: and I don't have family even in New York, so

1360
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm big with always being around my friends. Friend.

1361
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 1: You know, all you have to do is meet up

1362
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 1: with me, and I'm dragging you out with me until

1363
01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:01,479
Speaker 1: the wee hours the morning, and we're just we're gonna

1364
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 1: go to another spot and have more drinks, or we're

1365
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 1: gonna just keep going until finally friends. And so I'm

1366
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 1: that friends. And so this is really like tough for me.

1367
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 1: And it's very because I actually got on the phone

1368
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 1: with my mom um and she literally was just like, Okay,

1369
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 1: you sound a little bit manic. I think you need to,

1370
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:27,800
Speaker 1: you know, do something, um. And so yeah, and and

1371
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 1: so I got the kitten and it's really helped me.

1372
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 1: I feed her with me, we lay together. I cuss

1373
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 1: her out because she's annoying me, just like I would

1374
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 1: a regular apartment. It is a boy, but it's it's

1375
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 1: gender fluid, so it's he she they? Because you said

1376
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 1: I sleep with her, and I'm like, but it's definitely

1377
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 1: a boy. I saw the balls and penis finally, so

1378
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 1: it's definitely a boy. But who am I to say

1379
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:59,799
Speaker 1: what gender it is? You know? No, I was asking

1380
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 1: she or he or they? Have torn your apartment up

1381
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 1: at all because I want one? But I like, I'm

1382
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 1: big on interior design and the thought of like my

1383
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 1: furniture being scraped up, but like my couch being ripped.

1384
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 1: It's so they chat. I mean, if you so, I mean,

1385
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 1: you get the water bottle and spray it. Um. It's

1386
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:24,680
Speaker 1: funny too, because body like will play with straws or

1387
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 1: bobby pins. What's what Everyone tells me that you just

1388
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:31,720
Speaker 1: spray them in the airs. You don't want them to learn.

1389
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:34,839
Speaker 1: When they won't, they'll learn. I got him a scratching

1390
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 1: post um. I mean, it's it's fun. He climbed every

1391
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 1: guddamn thing. The only thing I'm sure you really it's

1392
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:43,599
Speaker 1: something I hate going and that this is a white

1393
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:46,599
Speaker 1: people's house thing. Cats be jumping in the kitchen already,

1394
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:52,720
Speaker 1: I know. Yet, No, he ain't going to because then

1395
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 1: I'll kick the funk out of him. Sorry, Peter, the

1396
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 1: cat ain't coming by my motherfuck that you kick in

1397
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 1: the listen, I'll kick the cat. Beat You better get yours.

1398
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:05,840
Speaker 1: Ut he's I mean, he's not. He's not able to

1399
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 1: get on my counter or anything. Yeah, I don't believe.

1400
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 1: It's like, don't come around my no when I when

1401
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:12,600
Speaker 1: I drink my wine. The motherfucker want to get up

1402
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 1: in my face. I'm like, if you don't let me

1403
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 1: drink my wine and peace, motherfucker get your ass. No.

1404
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 1: But Frank, I want to thank you for joining us.

1405
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 1: You let our listeners know where they can find you

1406
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 1: and listen to you, because you also have another podcast

1407
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 1: going on right now to go ahead and drop. You

1408
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:31,679
Speaker 1: can find me as hey, friend Hey on every platform.

1409
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 1: I'm also, like you mentioned earlier, one third of the

1410
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:38,719
Speaker 1: friend Zone and one half of Insecurity, the official recap

1411
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 1: podcast for HBOS Insecure and Yeah it's back. I didn't

1412
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 1: get to I think I only checked out one episode

1413
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 1: last time, but I want to get more involved with

1414
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 1: TV obviously now if we have the time. Yeah, we

1415
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 1: have so much time to check it out. I love

1416
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 1: it and I do want to shout out to UM.

1417
01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 1: This week on our Patreon, we actually did a live

1418
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:05,599
Speaker 1: episode with our patrons, So we had a hundred of

1419
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 1: our patrons on with us to record and they were

1420
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:11,719
Speaker 1: able to ask us questions live. They raised their hands,

1421
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 1: we got to ask them how they're doing during the quarantine,

1422
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 1: and they helped us actually go through our outline. So UM,

1423
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 1: I do want to shout out all of our patrons

1424
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 1: who joined us for that, and we're looking to do

1425
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 1: that again. So guys, if you want to be involved,

1426
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 1: um in kind of the production and a part of

1427
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 1: some bonus content and get the time to actually ask

1428
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:30,479
Speaker 1: us questions live like you would at a live show

1429
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 1: and just kind of being a room girl. We all

1430
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 1: was cheering mentioned that show and I said the same thing,

1431
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 1: But I do want to add that we are not

1432
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 1: doing a live show. This is no it's not a

1433
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 1: live at all action as we can possibly given this

1434
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:47,519
Speaker 1: moment um. There's no cost for it. It's included with

1435
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 1: your Patreon membership UM, which if you've never been on there,

1436
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 1: there's over sixty episodes right now to listen to. UM.

1437
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 1: One of my favorite recent episodes, which is Woman to

1438
01:16:56,600 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 1: Woman where Mandy reads a slew of text message from

1439
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:05,360
Speaker 1: a woman that came to her as a woman. It

1440
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 1: was disrespectful, though, Bro, it was just disrespected so much

1441
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 1: because her and Mandy had the same vibe. If tatted,

1442
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 1: they're both we didn't. She is not not but she

1443
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 1: she's not cute to me. But yeah, were attractive, but

1444
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:19,720
Speaker 1: you don't have the same vibe. But all of the

1445
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:21,639
Speaker 1: guys that I sucked the same way. All my friends

1446
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 1: think all the niggas I could be cousins because they

1447
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 1: all look alike. All of the guys that I fuck

1448
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:27,639
Speaker 1: have a type. And when I see the other chicks

1449
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:31,000
Speaker 1: they fucked, we all look alike like thick bitches, like

1450
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 1: super thick bitches because a lot of them were sucking

1451
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 1: me when I was eighty pounds heavier. So they date

1452
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:44,400
Speaker 1: super big booty, big booty tatted thick bitches. No, definitely don't.

1453
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:46,840
Speaker 1: If bit you were dating white guys, they clearly don't

1454
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 1: look like your black guys, but they know. But they

1455
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 1: just have the same like you know, likes. I don't

1456
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 1: have a type at all. If I showed you all

1457
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 1: all my exes and people have dated, you would be like, so,

1458
01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 1: I don't get it. Like if I show you, if

1459
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 1: I show you even just kind of a group of five,

1460
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna be like this. This is incests your fucking

1461
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 1: brothers and cousins and daddy is okay. They all look

1462
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:12,719
Speaker 1: the same. This is a This is an old story too.

1463
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 1: I was at max Fish or Last Lap either a

1464
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:18,559
Speaker 1: year and a half almost two years ago with a

1465
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 1: tall guy he was maybe like six seven, and a

1466
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 1: girl made a joke that I stole one of Mandy's

1467
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:29,080
Speaker 1: niggas because she's that known for fucking with tall Niggas's no,

1468
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 1: it's crazy. I'll say shout out to I don't remember

1469
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 1: which d c um hore Hive remember it was, but

1470
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 1: one of my hosts came to our DC Live show

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01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:42,679
Speaker 1: um in November and he let me know that one

1472
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 1: of how bold our fans are because he one of

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01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:48,879
Speaker 1: our fans walked up to him and was like, hmmm,

1474
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:51,640
Speaker 1: you'll hear from Mandy, ain't you You look like you

1475
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 1: here from Mandy? And he was like, I'm just here

1476
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 1: first support and he was like. She was like, I

1477
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 1: knew it. You wanted Mandy's niggas and I was. He

1478
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 1: was just like, yo, your followers are funny ship. I

1479
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 1: look how much they knows though, except it is a

1480
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:06,600
Speaker 1: little awkward now that old baby who has become a

1481
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:09,640
Speaker 1: boyfriend has such a big beard. I was sucking a

1482
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:12,400
Speaker 1: beard bab before him and girls be like, oh, you

1483
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 1: beard bad and he'd be like yeah, and I'm like, no,

1484
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 1: does he listen to the show? Nah? But it's funny

1485
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 1: because like the recent women that we brought into our

1486
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 1: bedroom listen to the show. Most of them, but like

1487
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 1: they have and um, they're always like mentioning things. Oh

1488
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:38,200
Speaker 1: my god, did they do they like fan girl? Yo?

1489
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 1: Hold on, I hate it. I'm not gonna tell y'all everything,

1490
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 1: but I okay. There was one thing I said on

1491
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 1: Patreon specifically about a Christmas gift. He got me that.

1492
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 1: It was like I liked it, but I didn't like it.

1493
01:19:51,560 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 1: Why has been brought that ship up the wal And

1494
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 1: she's a real fake. She got her from the Patreon, right,

1495
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 1: she got her from the Patreon. Wait, you fucking pay subscribe?

1496
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 1: You know what? That one we were just like making

1497
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 1: it out. I don't know three listeners only well that's cute.

1498
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 1: Only I didn't know about one because she was smooth

1499
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 1: with it, you know what I'm saying, funk with her.

1500
01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:26,439
Speaker 1: She shout out to the girl in Portland's the Ethiopian Shack.

1501
01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:29,559
Speaker 1: She We talked about this girl all the time, but anyway,

1502
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,080
Speaker 1: she just had the fucking energy, you know what I mean.

1503
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 1: She looked like she smelled like cocoa butter but also

1504
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:40,559
Speaker 1: smoked weed. Fran She was so after like we just

1505
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 1: started talking about fluidity. She was like, yeah, like you know,

1506
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 1: I follow a lot of sex influencer. I know about

1507
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:52,559
Speaker 1: your work, and uh I was then that with me dating.

1508
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 1: As soon as they say, damn, I gotta listen to

1509
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:58,400
Speaker 1: your ship, I say, no, the phone, God, I can't.

1510
01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 1: They're going to clutch your asshole. That's what's gonna happen.

1511
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:04,360
Speaker 1: Oh no, I'll be feeling like they kind of they'd

1512
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, man, I heard a little bit of clips.

1513
01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:08,800
Speaker 1: Oh have you? So first off, all I gotta do

1514
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 1: is see my Twitter name. I am pegged the stud

1515
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 1: of happens up quite. I let them know I'm jumped

1516
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:16,800
Speaker 1: though with they're getting into It's funny because was I

1517
01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:19,680
Speaker 1: with you and Jade y'all were like, I hate the

1518
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:22,439
Speaker 1: ship that you repost onto my Oh my god, I

1519
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:25,760
Speaker 1: wake up and you know, do my meditation, I work

1520
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 1: out my breakfast, go on Twitter, and it'll just be

1521
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 1: a dick. Yeah, And I'm like, it's like eight am.

1522
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 1: But it's because how long I was gonna be asking it? No,

1523
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:40,599
Speaker 1: But it's because it took me a while to realize

1524
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:42,519
Speaker 1: that the things that I was like that we could

1525
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:46,559
Speaker 1: see throwing up. I didn't know that throw that down.

1526
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 1: So I retweet now with a word if it's crazy.

1527
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:51,639
Speaker 1: But I stopped liking shit. I just started book. Funny

1528
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 1: thing is that it was you every time. I didn't

1529
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 1: even have to check because I was like, and no

1530
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:58,679
Speaker 1: one else putting this dick. The only person I retweet

1531
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:01,639
Speaker 1: is being nasty who's sports at car washes and stuff?

1532
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 1: What again, queen, in the sense of, like, you have

1533
01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 1: to really like everybody's sucking themselves for money on the internet,

1534
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 1: But what do you do different the fact I'm familiar

1535
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:18,840
Speaker 1: with her work because of Man's ear to make sure

1536
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 1: she got a mike. She's been ready, she's been ready

1537
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 1: to come on the show. I know, I love, but

1538
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 1: I want to I want to thank you guys for

1539
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:28,240
Speaker 1: tuning in to another episode again. If you're all called

1540
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 1: up with Horrible Decisions and on more, do become a

1541
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:36,360
Speaker 1: patron at Patreon dot com backslash Horrible Decisions Again. It

1542
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:38,760
Speaker 1: is eighteen plus content, so you're not going to find

1543
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 1: us on the app. You're not gonna find us unless

1544
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 1: you type in Patreon dot com backslash Horrible Decisions Again.

1545
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 1: We let you guys know that there are over sixty

1546
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 1: episodes there for you to listen into. We are allowing you,

1547
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:54,200
Speaker 1: guys to not become more active into our recording sessions

1548
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:58,240
Speaker 1: during this quarantine, and also we post match it there porn,

1549
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:01,000
Speaker 1: not our porn, but we share the at and it's

1550
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 1: just really fucking amazing. So if you want to support

1551
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:07,320
Speaker 1: us during this time and become a patron and listen

1552
01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 1: to more audio, we do drop three bonus episodes a month,

1553
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 1: So depending on how many fucking Mondays during a month,

1554
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:17,960
Speaker 1: you are getting either seven or eight Horrible Decisions episodes.

1555
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 1: So go ahead, become a patron. Now, I want to

1556
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 1: thank you guys for tuning in, and we're gonna leave

1557
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:24,599
Speaker 1: you guys with a five minute bonus clip from our

1558
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 1: episode with a hundred patrons who joined us. So once again,

1559
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 1: thank you for tuning in to Yeah, another episode of

1560
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:40,599
Speaker 1: Horrible Decisions. Peace boch uh. No, we haven't had any

1561
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:44,120
Speaker 1: complaints as far as most women love the curb actually,

1562
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:50,360
Speaker 1: he said, it ain't. No. Usually, you know, they'll they'll

1563
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:52,800
Speaker 1: ask about it or whatever. You know, they actually want

1564
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:54,759
Speaker 1: to see it before you know, you get together and stuff.

1565
01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 1: And if they see pictures, they're like, oh, shot, he's

1566
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:59,400
Speaker 1: got a nice curve, you know. So you know we're

1567
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:05,240
Speaker 1: in there wiping the back like yeah, so so someone

1568
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:09,160
Speaker 1: actually said that their Their boyfriend said reverse cow girl

1569
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:11,920
Speaker 1: girl hurts for him and he has a curve that

1570
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 1: goes upward. So um, I guess it can depend on

1571
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 1: the position. And I'm not gonna lie. I've been fused

1572
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:20,720
Speaker 1: with a curb dick and I've even shared it on

1573
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 1: the show, Like bitch, it'd be hitting just certain spots,

1574
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:27,720
Speaker 1: and it's not as pleasurable for me as just a

1575
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 1: straight and narrow dick going down my canal hitting it

1576
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 1: with the girl. I just want the girl, buck the curb.

1577
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:35,760
Speaker 1: I don't need your hitting the left and right of

1578
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 1: my walls. Bitch the canal. Thank you, guys. Dred, I'm

1579
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:44,760
Speaker 1: mute you what a dress? Since you're talking about the

1580
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:46,680
Speaker 1: hor high being quiet, let's talk about if y'all dick

1581
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:52,680
Speaker 1: is curved or not. Okay, damn you, I'm going to

1582
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:56,600
Speaker 1: the page. This bitch was like, bitches, look, Dred, we

1583
01:24:56,680 --> 01:25:00,760
Speaker 1: know your dress. Oh Dred, Dred No wait wait wait,

1584
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 1: okay wait Dread. Dread was about to undo this fens y'all.

1585
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 1: We was about to have a live orger so I

1586
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:14,800
Speaker 1: was getting a free Patreon money. Remember which way it

1587
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 1: was curb? I couldn't remember, so I was gonna, you know,

1588
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:20,120
Speaker 1: just well, nigga, we had I'm sure we had, we

1589
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 1: would have had to flip look dot to e face

1590
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:24,120
Speaker 1: all in the screen. Baby, she was about to observe.

1591
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 1: So so dread for you. It doesn't matter if you

1592
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:32,679
Speaker 1: have a curb dick or not. Is there any sex

1593
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:37,519
Speaker 1: position that has caused you pain daring sex at all,

1594
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:40,439
Speaker 1: or is there anything because I know, like a nigga

1595
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:43,560
Speaker 1: thought he was getting into my hole and he accidentally

1596
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:47,160
Speaker 1: like went in almost stuck it in my asshole, and

1597
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 1: because my ass was way not ready, it like it

1598
01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 1: hurt his dick. It kind of went out like you

1599
01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:55,360
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Ladies, y'all know y'all have had

1600
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:57,599
Speaker 1: a nigga like slide out and try to go slide

1601
01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 1: back in and they like went and I'm gonna it

1602
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:04,080
Speaker 1: hit it's like a it's like this. They hit the

1603
01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:06,560
Speaker 1: wrong It just didn't go in. What happened when it

1604
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:10,799
Speaker 1: did curve? You hit a corner that is straight, nigga

1605
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 1: would have been able to drive right through. But nah, y'all,

1606
01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:19,800
Speaker 1: mother Dred, has anything ever hurt you? Dear is six.

1607
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:23,400
Speaker 1: I had this girl once and she had like damn,

1608
01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:25,519
Speaker 1: I'm about to get fired and be unemployed. I just

1609
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:27,759
Speaker 1: want to say that there's only a hundred of people

1610
01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:31,600
Speaker 1: in here, that's all. But I had this girl and

1611
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 1: she was like bouncing on top and it was like

1612
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 1: real good. And then like she like bounced past my balls,

1613
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:43,920
Speaker 1: like my balls like like went up inside her, and

1614
01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:50,680
Speaker 1: I was like, oh shit, is that possible? Crack? That

1615
01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 1: would God? I was like I was I didn't even

1616
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:55,120
Speaker 1: want to say nothing because I felt like my dick

1617
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:57,280
Speaker 1: was small because not my balls are in there too,

1618
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 1: Ain't I want to say, you say? Because I don't

1619
01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:06,680
Speaker 1: want to dick shame. I don't know what. Did she

1620
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:09,599
Speaker 1: have a big pussy or don't do this because bitches

1621
01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:12,439
Speaker 1: don't have big pussies. Niggers have little dicks. We have

1622
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:18,599
Speaker 1: we have a muscular ask instruction. I'm saying, like, there's

1623
01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:21,519
Speaker 1: always guys bigger, is always guys smaller. I'm just I'm

1624
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 1: not saying that. So are your balls really small? How

1625
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 1: do your balls go inside of a pussy whole? I

1626
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:29,680
Speaker 1: ain't never heard that. Listen, listen, But I should have known,

1627
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 1: right because when I was fingering fingering her, she was

1628
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 1: like all right, So I just started with the two

1629
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:36,720
Speaker 1: fingers right, and she was like, no, three. I was like,

1630
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:39,599
Speaker 1: all right, ain't nothing wrong with three figures. It ain't

1631
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:41,800
Speaker 1: like no, no. She was like no, put the whole

1632
01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 1: thing in there, and I was like okay, and then

1633
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:47,040
Speaker 1: she was like close the fist sounds like, so see

1634
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:49,479
Speaker 1: if you fisted her prior to stick in your dick

1635
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:51,880
Speaker 1: in her, that would make sense like when I watched.

1636
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 1: When I watched, that would make sense then because now

1637
01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 1: you have her open, like when I have like my

1638
01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:01,040
Speaker 1: booty hole is clothes closed, but put a dick. If

1639
01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 1: I put a dick in my booty hole, it's a

1640
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 1: little loose lifting. It was, and I wasn't expecting that,

1641
01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:08,080
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like, you know it was

1642
01:28:08,280 --> 01:28:10,000
Speaker 1: that was four play you know what I'm saying like,

1643
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 1: and then we were like, you know, doing it, and

1644
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 1: then it was like next thing I know is like

1645
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:17,719
Speaker 1: I got swallowed up, like I didn't even gonna hold you, dread.

1646
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:19,559
Speaker 1: I feel like we didn't shook hands. And now that

1647
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:22,400
Speaker 1: I know you out here fisting bitches, don't expect me

1648
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 1: to shake your hand no more nigga. You ain't gonna

1649
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:28,479
Speaker 1: get no more weed the nigga. First off, I'm sick

1650
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 1: of y'all bringing me weed and edible to the live

1651
01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 1: shows because I'm not. I just want to you can

1652
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 1: man be mute her own like, please continue, bring me

1653
01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:40,680
Speaker 1: drugs than you dread. By the way. Shout out to

1654
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 1: the one white girl that came to a show and

1655
01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:45,479
Speaker 1: came up to me when I was walking out of

1656
01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 1: the video. She was like, hey, I feel so bad

1657
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:48,840
Speaker 1: didn't bring gifts. I was like, oh, don't worry about it.

1658
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:51,040
Speaker 1: She was like, but I got like a ball yum.

1659
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:53,720
Speaker 1: I felt like a dan X whatever you want. And

1660
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:55,840
Speaker 1: I'm trying to act like I'm not the bitch to

1661
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:58,559
Speaker 1: take random ship, but I was also like, I don't

1662
01:28:58,560 --> 01:28:58,880
Speaker 1: even like