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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Blowing out of the backfield,

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Speaker 1: exploding down the sidelines. He's Hanging with the Boys, presented

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Speaker 1: by Windstuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now, your hosts,

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Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross, we

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Speaker 1: are back. It's Monday here at the Star and you're

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Speaker 1: rocking with your boys. Hanging with the boys. Yeah, the Star.

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Speaker 1: Right there, you have a live look of the Tostita

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Speaker 1: Championship Plaza where it's currently eighty six to grees high

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Speaker 1: of ninety seven today. We got a heat wave coming

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Speaker 1: a week, fella, So if you're a little musty, stay

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Speaker 1: away from me because it's gonna get. It's gonna get.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna get toasty out here. The Goot's gonna get

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Speaker 1: toasty out here this week. So just make sure that

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Speaker 1: have you back, Bright to be back. Good to see

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Speaker 1: you guys. Yea, Nate, Yeah, I'm rocking, man, Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Our fearless leader is running a couple of minutes behind,

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Speaker 1: but that's okay because I'm always ready and willing to

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Speaker 1: get these reps in and uh, all right, kind of

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Speaker 1: a sad way to start our show today, and I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna keep it together. I think I've cried enough. But

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Speaker 1: last week, UM, we lost a great member of the

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Speaker 1: U Mariam Barbara passed away on Wednesday of last of

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Speaker 1: last week. UM. Still unknown cause of death, but that's

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Speaker 1: that's beside the point. UM. Marion has been a fan

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Speaker 1: favorite of Cowboy fans since the time that he entered

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Speaker 1: the league. And when you get high praise from a

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Speaker 1: coach like Bill Belichick who says he was almost a

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Speaker 1: perfect player, Parcel, I'm sorry, that's sorry, parcels um the

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Speaker 1: thing the thing that and we're all on a march

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Speaker 1: to death right, as morbid as that sound, but I

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Speaker 1: say that to say this at the end of it all,

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Speaker 1: I hope and pray when my time comes that I

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Speaker 1: get talked about the person that I was far greater

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Speaker 1: than anything that I've done, than any part of my

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Speaker 1: And while Marian Barbara was a phenomenal football player, a

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Speaker 1: great teammate, UM, a hard Noserunner. He was one of

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Speaker 1: the greatest human beings that I've or in my life

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Speaker 1: come across. That's something I was hoping you could share

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Speaker 1: because he was a quiet guy in the media, and

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Speaker 1: I think most fans, I mean, I don't that person

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Speaker 1: I think that a lot of that's a no, no no,

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Speaker 1: wasn't that Marian did not want to talk to the

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Speaker 1: media or be a part of the media. He just

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Speaker 1: never wanted the attention. He never wanted it to be

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Speaker 1: about him. It was always about talk to my offensive lineman,

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Speaker 1: sad that at thirty eight years old, his birthday is

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Speaker 1: And some of us are able to work and manage

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445
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Speaker 1: that mean? And it's like, you're taking care of I'm like, okay,

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449
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469
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Speaker 1: And he cried at the gas pump and he was

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Speaker 1: That that's who marrying uh Barbara was. And I know

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Speaker 1: way to transition from that. Practice has started today. We'll

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Speaker 1: am Jesse Holly. I'm joined by my brothers, Kurt Daniels,

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Speaker 1: Shannon Gross and the Big Nate Nasty Newton. Did you

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Speaker 1: Did like kitchen? Oh yeah, that's my name there? You'd

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Speaker 1: like the kitchen. What's the best nickname? Let me pay

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Speaker 1: I don't know how it works on this side of

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Speaker 1: the table. What's the best nickname you guys have ever heard?

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Speaker 1: Any could be a friend, sport, anything. What's the best

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Speaker 1: nickname of any person? Or what what's the nickname you

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Speaker 1: had at some point in your life? I'll start I

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Speaker 1: might have told y'all before cat squirrel, squirrel, I've never

549
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Speaker 1: heard that. Yeah. So I used to back was Louisiana

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Speaker 1: and they don't know he country. I used to bartend

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Speaker 1: and and uh in college, and after college I bartended

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Speaker 1: a college barton. Every night there'd be two or three

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Speaker 1: fights and I'd be behind the bar, and if one

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Speaker 1: broke out at the bar, I would I would jump.

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Speaker 1: I would jump across the bar and grab and fly

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Speaker 1: off the bar and like grab them and put them

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Speaker 1: in a rear naked choke and hold them and hold

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Speaker 1: them until the bouncers got there. And all the guys

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Speaker 1: called me cat squirrel because they said pretty quick boy

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Speaker 1: being across that ball. I was little I was little,

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Speaker 1: but you still still what could you see over the bar?

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Speaker 1: I could see over the ball, I could slean drinks. Boy,

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Speaker 1: I was a hell of a bartender. They didn't might

564
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Speaker 1: not taste it real good, But I worked on volume. Bro.

565
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Speaker 1: It was a college bar. It was. Yeah. It was

566
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Speaker 1: a little plastic cups. We sold like three dollars drinks.

567
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Speaker 1: We had like dollar beer night. Yeah it was it

568
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Speaker 1: was nuts. But yeah, cat squirrel, Yeah, cat squirrel. What's

569
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Speaker 1: a good one? Y'all heard wow that squirrel? And recently

570
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Speaker 1: I thought it was good. Now came it was pretty good.

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Speaker 1: You had you had one, you had a nickname Bro

572
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Speaker 1: baseball man. Yeah, dirty Curt. I like Dirty Curt though

573
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Speaker 1: I was a dirty Curt, like dirty Hurt. Wasn't because

574
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Speaker 1: you wanted to. I'm just playing ball. Get dirty? Oh?

575
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Speaker 1: I like dirty curtain Chance. For a reason, I thought

576
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Speaker 1: it was gonna be like linked down that trail, LA Park,

577
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Speaker 1: double wide. Holly, what's yours? Jes Mine has always been Hollywood?

578
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Speaker 1: What about you? How many different ones did you have?

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Speaker 1: The kitchen was a favorite. My favorite one was big Time,

580
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Speaker 1: which my coach. I like that a coach in high

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Speaker 1: school and high school. Big time. Huh were you? Were

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Speaker 1: you a chunky man in high school? Or man, Let

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Speaker 1: me show y'all a picture. Man, Oh, I like college.

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Speaker 1: Let me show you. Let me see what I pull

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Speaker 1: it up? Man, Man, I was sexy, bro man, not man,

586
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Speaker 1: I'm serious. Yeah, y'all can laugh all you want, Bro,

587
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Speaker 1: Big Noon was sexy, cold blooded, sexy goodness. You know,

588
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Speaker 1: y'all can call it what you want to, big fella,

589
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: you call it what you want to. What some of

590
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Speaker 1: the nicknames that Dan called before, y'all look at it? Timms?

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Speaker 1: Is that a fact? Guy? Bad pants? That's the green

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Speaker 1: top and you know it just my room rust color man? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a sexy Now you gotta show. We're gonna show the people.

594
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Speaker 1: We're gonna show sex. Yeah, big sexy town. Was that

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Speaker 1: in your D line in days? Yeah? When I first

596
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Speaker 1: got there, that's when I made all we see. Yeah,

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00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: look at that big sexy new I had a book

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Speaker 1: in my hand, too bad. I just woke up and

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Speaker 1: went up to the lunch room and walked back. You

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Speaker 1: just come from clash, Yeah, but I got yeah, job n.

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Speaker 1: What's some of the nicknames that Dan called you? Those insults, hogg,

602
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Speaker 1: M DG. Yeah, that was it? You know he called

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Speaker 1: me the other day. You know I'm the last person

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Speaker 1: he gonna call. I ain't got nothing else to do.

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Speaker 1: Let me call called Nadan clown. Hey, Hoggy, what's up?

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Speaker 1: What's up? Hog a? M D. You're gonna be fat.

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Speaker 1: I don't care if you lose weight. I don't give

608
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Speaker 1: you one hundred and eighty pounds. You're still a fat man.

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Speaker 1: I see. Okay, that that that I told you all

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Speaker 1: about when we were training camp was that last That

611
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Speaker 1: was last year. Me and he were eating lunch and

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Speaker 1: the phone rings and it's a it's uh. We got

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Speaker 1: him in prime Time. He's like, watch this turns it all.

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Speaker 1: He puts it old speaker and he goes, what's up,

615
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Speaker 1: fat man? And Nate insults him. He insults him back.

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Speaker 1: Nate insults him back, He insults him back, and he

617
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Speaker 1: hangs up like it was no conversation. It was just

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Speaker 1: this this, this, this, this hang up. And I always

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Speaker 1: try to start it right. I'll say this. I said

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Speaker 1: every time, what's up? Prime? Wait? What's up? Prime? You wait?

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Speaker 1: I'm like, can you do something different? No? You're a

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Speaker 1: fat man? Okay, you dirty, stinging, low down rat. Well

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Speaker 1: keep it on the themes of nicknames adults. Shultz his

624
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 1: nickname is franchise tag and he's frustrated. So Dalton Shultz,

625
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Speaker 1: that's not like a man need to go find him

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Speaker 1: a woman. All that money. Shultz was franchise tagged by

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys this offseason and he signed it. He signed

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Speaker 1: it quick, quick, quick too. I mean, when you go

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Speaker 1: from a person who he never had that much money

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Speaker 1: to being offered some guaranteed money, you take that all.

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Speaker 1: You take that guaranteed money and now and now, and

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Speaker 1: he's kind of don't know what to do. So now

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Speaker 1: he's frustrated because he thought, over most players think, is

634
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Speaker 1: that you signed the franchise tag and then you begin

635
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Speaker 1: to work on a long term deal. Well that long

636
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,479
Speaker 1: term deal or to talk, so that longer term deal

637
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: may not be proceeding in the way that Dalton Shorts

638
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Speaker 1: thought it would, or his agent or his agent, whoever

639
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Speaker 1: it may be. Of course, the agent is always trying

640
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Speaker 1: to get to play the most money because they they

641
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Speaker 1: get a percentage of that and so three percentage of

642
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Speaker 1: maxes what you can get from an agent on your

643
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Speaker 1: NFL contracts, So they're trying to say, hey, push that

644
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Speaker 1: number up as far as we can get it, because

645
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Speaker 1: I need to get my cut as well. I was

646
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Speaker 1: gonna say, here's something to think about. I never thought

647
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,479
Speaker 1: about this until this year. You signed what he signed

648
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Speaker 1: for like thirteen fourteen million, yeah, maybe eleven. You don't

649
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: get paid until you play your first regular season game,

650
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Speaker 1: so like if something happens between now and in preseason

651
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Speaker 1: or training camp, like he gets zero money because there's

652
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Speaker 1: no guaranteed money on the franchise tag, like you don't

653
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Speaker 1: get a check until you played the first regular season game.

654
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Speaker 1: I never thought about that. And if I'm not mistaken, no,

655
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Speaker 1: because they already he already signed it. I was gonna

656
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Speaker 1: if he hadn't signed it in point nine. Yeah, if

657
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 1: he hadn't signed it, the Cowboys can pull that franchise

658
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: tag back if he but he already signed it, so

659
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: that's already a done deal. The Cleveland really threw a

660
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: wrench and the whole works here because they signed their

661
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: tight end David and jo you know, fifty six point

662
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: seventy five million deal four years. I mean that's Cowboys

663
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: did not want to pay Schultz that. No, I'm sure

664
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Speaker 1: Schultz's age, just like Sholtz had a better year than

665
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Speaker 1: this doubt guy. You know, he needs this kind of

666
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Speaker 1: money and me to call him something else he was was?

667
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: What was that bad? Yeah? Um? Does Dalton Schultz have

668
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Speaker 1: the right to be frustrated? Nah? I mean I think

669
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Speaker 1: he has. He can feel frustrated because he wants this

670
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Speaker 1: to be done, but he doesn't maybe have the skins

671
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: on the wall to have that kind of leverage where

672
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Speaker 1: he can pobarly Ezekiel. You know when Zeke held out

673
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Speaker 1: for his his deal, he I mean, Dalton's not in

674
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Speaker 1: that class where he can have that kind of land

675
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Speaker 1: everage you get. I mean, is that true? Or is

676
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: he the only option they got? So he does have

677
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: some leverage. I think that is the leverage you got

678
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Speaker 1: rid of his competition. What round did we draft him? Fourth,

679
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: same round we drafted the tight end this year. Yeah,

680
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: I think that that is his I think when when

681
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: Dalton Shultz and his agents walk to the table, sit

682
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Speaker 1: down at the table, they say, listen, who you got?

683
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: They say, they say one, They go, you know the

684
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: guy that you pay forty million dollars to. You want

685
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: to know the guy who we threw the ball to.

686
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: Kind of almost if not the most the second most

687
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: on this football team. It's my guy. You know the

688
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: guys who had some of the best numbers as a

689
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: receiver on this football team. It's my guy. Oh and

690
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: by the way, everything that you have behind him is

691
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: either just a flat out blocker or rookie. Now, do

692
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: you want to have you're a forty million dollars dude

693
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: safety net not show up and be there, or do

694
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: you want to trust your forty million dollars dude with

695
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: a bunch of other guys who aren't route runners? And

696
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: who are who's either rookie? And by the way, who

697
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: you got starting a wide receiver on Game one? Yeah, Cdnober,

698
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: maybe Washington, we don't know. So he has some leverage.

699
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: I mean, he has some leverage. And I'm always for

700
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: the players getting his most money they possibly can, no

701
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: matter who they are, what they or what they've done.

702
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 1: I've never ever been mad when the Joneses have given

703
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 1: out a bunch of money because nine time my tend

704
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: is going to a player, no problem. But I do

705
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 1: have a problem when it all comes down to the end,

706
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 1: when you say, wow, man, we really paid this dude

707
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: that type of money because it ain't showing up on

708
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: the field. And that's a great question. So that's that's

709
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 1: a great statement, Nate, because we you go back to it,

710
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 1: you look at and you go the Cowboys front office

711
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: had really been that good. And when it comes to

712
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: negotiating and getting deals done right, look at recent history.

713
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: You could have got Dak for a lot less than

714
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 1: forty million dollars. But they they they they they bluffed,

715
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: and they bluffed and they bluffed, and they cost them.

716
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 1: Zeke had two years left on his deal. Zeke had

717
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,479
Speaker 1: two years left on his deal. They could have been like, listen, son,

718
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: you can hold out all you want, if you want

719
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Speaker 1: to play the game of football in the National Football League,

720
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Speaker 1: you will do it for us, or you won't do

721
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Speaker 1: it at all. At least that's what they should have done.

722
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Speaker 1: But what did they do. They cave. They gave Zeke

723
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Speaker 1: a bunch of money, and now what's happening. They're regretting it. Um.

724
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Speaker 1: You look at that, You look at the deal. Um Um,

725
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 1: I'm drawing the blank. Um. You look at the deal

726
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Speaker 1: that they gave Jayleen Smith. Right when they was in

727
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Speaker 1: the they were in the negotiation a Dak Prescott, they

728
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Speaker 1: were kind of like, well, Bundy's there whoever come get

729
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 1: it gets it. Taylor said, I'll take care and they

730
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: paid them. All of a sudden, Dan Click came and said,

731
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: this guy can't play football. He literally cannot play football.

732
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 1: I can, in the words of of of of Mike Singletary,

733
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Speaker 1: can't play with them, can't win with them. I can't

734
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Speaker 1: do nothing with this guy that you've just paid. You

735
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Speaker 1: know what, But the bottom line is simply this right here.

736
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Speaker 1: Now you find to do the same thing for a

737
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Speaker 1: fourth round pick tight end that Now y'all may not

738
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Speaker 1: believe that is you know, I understand that players come

739
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Speaker 1: when players come, but you just really telling than me

740
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: that the real reason this guy was who he was

741
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Speaker 1: was it was two guys that were standing outside that

742
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Speaker 1: add up everything of value. That was a Maori Cooper

743
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: and that was that CD Lamb and they add up

744
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: everything of value. But I'm still gonna come to the

745
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: table of his agent and say, you can come on

746
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: the numbers, say that he was a B and C. Yeah,

747
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: so when that second corner to get on him, you'd

748
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: be like, wow, why should say doing what he did?

749
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Speaker 1: And then y'all gonna blame the offensive coordinator. Cowboys just

750
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: play off this tag one year and then leave it

751
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: to Ferguson to come in and if if they are

752
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: if I think that Zeke contract which is now biting

753
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: him in the butt had and the Jalen contract, it's

754
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 1: kind of been a sticking point for them. They're saying,

755
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: you know what, no more of us getting these bad

756
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: deals in, no more of us giving players money who

757
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: maybe don't deserve long term money. I say play the

758
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: tag out from for me, I say play the tag

759
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: out now. This goes back to that playing that game

760
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Speaker 1: of chicken. Now the Soults goes out there because we

761
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: don't know what the receiver. You know, the receiver kind

762
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: of to be cashed for twelve hundred yards and eight

763
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: and eight tds tends you tip your hat to him

764
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Speaker 1: and you had him a check, and you had him

765
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Speaker 1: a check. But or you let him go somewhere else.

766
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Speaker 1: But let these dudes prove it. I'm trying to We

767
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: should know by now one year does not make you

768
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Speaker 1: a bull dog. It may make you a high class poodle,

769
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Speaker 1: but it does not make you a bullet. Had two

770
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Speaker 1: years of sixty catches. I will be shocked if he

771
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Speaker 1: is not here when it's mandatory he gonna come. Man,

772
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: I think this is all agent driven. I don't think

773
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 1: they're just knowing his works. One week back, you said

774
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 1: you don't get paid nothing, not a dime. Yeah, it's start. Yeah,

775
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 1: I mean knowing his work ethic. Like if you ever

776
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 1: stay around after practice, he's the last one to leave

777
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 1: the field. He's running sprint after practice like that. There's

778
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: no way he misses any kind of time. No way.

779
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: I will be shocked a little bit. The Njoko contract

780
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: is actually really friendly. Yes, it is two years. If

781
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: you really look, got three meal the first year and

782
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 1: what the second year? Yeah, so first year is three

783
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: million and the second year was like eight. Yeah, but

784
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: you're paying Shultz ten this year ten five right to

785
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,439
Speaker 1: nine almost eleven, almost eleven million dollars. Well, how nice

786
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: is that you go from that rookie deal that he

787
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Speaker 1: had to just here's one year that you're gonna make

788
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: more than you would have if you'd played under your

789
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790
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Speaker 1: he's making eighteen against the restructure. Well, all right, we

791
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Speaker 1: got one more second left. We still got some top

792
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Speaker 1: and talk about Tyler Smith working about left tackle. This

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Speaker 1: the show and start this last segment, I have to

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Speaker 1: wish a very special woman in my life, the woman

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00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: that brought me to life. Mama, Mama Gross's birthday. Look

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Speaker 1: at his hand. Man always gotta take it. Look at

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Speaker 1: his hands. Take it somewhere. You got daddy issues that

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Speaker 1: she have a do have a section? Actually? Did she did?

865
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: I was gonna be I was gonna be a breach baby.

866
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Speaker 1: And then and so they had to they had to

867
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 1: take it. Was no way. My aunt ain't grown since

868
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: I was six months. For fun, She's like, wow, you

869
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: would have ruined her that man, Mama man it for

870
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 1: the rut to the Happy birthday, Mom, Happy birthday, love you,

871
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: love you, love you. MoMA grows hate your son to

872
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 1: love you, love you. Mama grows the bunds in what else?

873
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: Happy birthday to Paul Stewart has the same birthday and

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00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 1: h over across the pond. So Paul, what's up man?

875
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: The seven thousand dollars chicken. I got a lot of bites,

876
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 1: by the way, on people that want to come on

877
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Speaker 1: the show and bring us, bring us donuts and goodies

878
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: and all that. Don we have a sponsor, we used to.

879
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,919
Speaker 1: I don't know ho they're our sponsor anymore. So we're

880
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: I think we're good. So there you go. All right,

881
00:49:53,520 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: take away, Jess Mama grows. Wow. All right. So Tyler Smith, uh,

882
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: this last week at OTA's moving around Nate and this

883
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 1: is all this is all your segment right here now,

884
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: yes it is. You have the only six time Pro

885
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: Bowl offensive lineman on this show, so therefore you have

886
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: no choice but to take offensive lineman related questions. Tyler

887
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: Smith this week was this year was drafted to be

888
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 1: the starting left guard according to Mike McCarthy and company,

889
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: um even though he played tackle at Tulsa. Well at

890
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 1: OTA's because your boy Tyrn Smith was out with some

891
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: back issues already, Tyler Smith was playing some left tackle.

892
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: And before you start about the transition from right tackle

893
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: to right guard. I mean from left tackle to left guard,

894
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:52,240
Speaker 1: left guard to left tackle. The Governor had some words

895
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: about this transitioning and maybe not as difficult as you think.

896
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: The President governor, he's special. I'm sorry, I'm sorry special, sorry,

897
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,919
Speaker 1: but I'm saying he's special. Zach Martin had some things

898
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: to say about that transition. For me, I'd rather stay

899
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 1: on one side than move right side the left side.

900
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,280
Speaker 1: So at least he's kind of the footwork is summer,

901
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 1: and obviously the protection stuff in space is different. But

902
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: at least um your footwork in the run game especially,

903
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: he's going to be the exact same at left tackle

904
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: left guard. I hate this, so it'll be good for

905
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: him to do both. Don't do that, don't do that.

906
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: Don't do that. You're saying, you say special, you said

907
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: the president specially. See. This is what bothers me. I

908
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: hate this. This is what bothers me. When the elite

909
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 1: after let starts talking like why why did Magic Johnson

910
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,879
Speaker 1: not last as a coach, He's like, man, you didn't

911
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:49,399
Speaker 1: see that, dude, break down the lane. No magic, I'm

912
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: six two, you were six nine. Magic. You had exceptional

913
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,959
Speaker 1: perifrium vision. Magic you know what I'm saying. Come on, mate, Yeah,

914
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: when I rotated the ball all over there, you didn't

915
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 1: know to swing back on. No magic, I didn't have

916
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: that IQ. You have magic. This kid that is talking

917
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: has been in the league, has been elite, has been

918
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 1: a first All offensive lineman, All Pro when he walked

919
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 1: in the league. No, this kid put him at a position.

920
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: Let him work that position. And if and if, my man,

921
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 1: who I love the death and you had a thing

922
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 1: last week? How important Tyronn is still probably the fourth

923
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: third or fourth most important guy on our offense. If

924
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 1: he's not, if he's having back issues, now, they's just

925
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 1: put this kid left tackling. Let's roll with it and

926
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: find your left guard. Let's not play that game. Because

927
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 1: that same forty million dollar brother, that same forty million

928
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: dollars quarterback he was talking about saying that Shouts is

929
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: the number two receiver. Now, don't he need to have

930
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 1: some time to throw the ball to get it to

931
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,919
Speaker 1: this guy Tyring? Play? You gotta play him. You can't

932
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: put him. I mean, if his back hurt, what money

933
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: is this? If it's back hurting in June? How how?

934
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: How how are we gonna pamper him through training camp

935
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: because if it's hurting, now, do you think all right?

936
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: So from the Romo treatment. Real question, do you think

937
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: he's hurt his back is really bothering or do you

938
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,720
Speaker 1: think he just like I'm in my eighty seventh season,

939
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: I just don't want to. But see, this is the

940
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: thing about it, when you become a certain guy like Tyrone,

941
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: is when you become that guy, you just walk out

942
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 1: there with your jersey on. What's wrong today? I ain't practicing?

943
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: Why why I gotta have a stiff back? Why has

944
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 1: anything got to be wrong? Hey man? Just saving it

945
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 1: for the season, isn't that Yeah, that's the most simplest

946
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: way when you see what a veteran guy, Why has

947
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: it always got to be something wrong? Because now you're

948
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: giving us guys saying, wow, man, if it's back hurt now,

949
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 1: as soon as soon as uh, Big Sam's hid him,

950
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: because that's a big old guy. As soon as Big

951
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,479
Speaker 1: Sam join me here with this bull rush, what's gonna

952
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: happen to that back? Then? Noah? Man, he if he

953
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 1: ain't practicing, just telling people, hey man, we're saving him

954
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: for us for the season. So if so, if say

955
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:20,399
Speaker 1: that he does start the season and he inevitably gets hurt. Dude,

956
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 1: what was that word? You don't don't make me say that.

957
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: He pronounced like nate, like bugs. Buddy, never never understood it.

958
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: I understood. Take like, middle of the season, would you

959
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: take Tyler Smith and move him from left guard to

960
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 1: left tackle? If ye, we move him in the middle

961
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: of Oh yeah, I'm moving because it's still come down

962
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 1: to your best five. It's still as a rookie, you'd

963
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: want him. This is it, this is what you focus on.

964
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: This is this is where you're gonna be if you

965
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: here's something the President did said the right thing. He

966
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 1: ain't like he going over to the other side. Like

967
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: we did a right tackle. How we said, oh, hey,

968
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: you're great over here, right tackle. Oh let's track overre see.

969
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: Because I tell people it's two positions you just can't

970
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 1: play with. That's the left tackle in the center. You

971
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 1: can't mess around because both of these guys are so

972
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,760
Speaker 1: so important to that quarterback. They are so so important.

973
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: So but I want to have a problem with him

974
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 1: sliding out there but doing it. You know, that's if

975
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 1: Tyrone gonna miss a couple of games, you know, but

976
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: if he gonna but if he's gonna be out the

977
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: rest of the season, which nine times happen, Tyrone, don't

978
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: get mad at him, because if you go out that

979
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: first game, then you know he's gonna miss four more.

980
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:35,879
Speaker 1: It ain't never failed. If you go out one game,

981
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: we always say he will be back. He's feeling good,

982
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: he's day to day, and now of a sudden, the

983
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: day to day turned in like three weeks. Situation. Yeah, man,

984
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: I gotta move your rookie to left tackle, and then

985
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: you got to fill your left guarden. We got more guards,

986
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 1: i think now than we have tackles. Who is the

987
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: swing tackle? Who is the backup tackle? They're talking potentially

988
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 1: bar that have you seen ball? Have you seen ball play?

989
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 1: He just hurt all last year. That's what I'm saying.

990
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 1: The rookie guy. The other guy, he's a rookie. He

991
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 1: has nothing on the left tackle, the guy Williams. He

992
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 1: has nothing on Williams. And he has nothing on the

993
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 1: big guy, the big, big old You know they got

994
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 1: a big old tackle out there too, like bigger than

995
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 1: the world. Besides, well, let's go on, he left or right.

996
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: I think he's been working on the left sum He

997
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: was a guy they talked about us. Maybe they got

998
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: here's who they got, list of his tackles. Aimon Simon, Well,

999
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:33,320
Speaker 1: let's go, Tyler Smith, Josh Ballavante Collins, Tyrn Smith and

1000
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,399
Speaker 1: Terrence Steele. Well, let's go to the ball or both

1001
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: six hades. They're pretty good balls a big dude. Yeah,

1002
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 1: but they do they have feet because when you go

1003
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 1: to the left tackle and you don't have feet and

1004
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 1: Dak and Dak, you better run, you better condition conditioning.

1005
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: I'm telling y'all, if Dak stand back there with all

1006
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 1: of these unknowns, because when you it's one thing that

1007
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: an unknown offensive line, you can design something to get

1008
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 1: the ball out, quick, swing it, you know, move around.

1009
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: But guess what you have a second unknown. You got

1010
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 1: a whole slight knew wide receivers at different positions and

1011
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,839
Speaker 1: different responsibility. So now you got two unknowns. So you're

1012
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: just gonna drop back and hope for the best. That's

1013
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: that's man. I've been unknown your running game too. If

1014
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: they're gonna be able to do anything more, you're not

1015
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 1: feeling me with a lot of confidence. I'm just being honest. Man,

1016
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: I gotta win in two games. Man. Oh, here we

1017
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 1: go until training camp. They ain't got him seventeen and oh,

1018
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: I think that's it right there. I think we end

1019
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: on that. I think Nate saying they got win two games,

1020
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 1: they got to earn two game. Now they're gonna go

1021
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 1: four and on the preseason three and on the preseason.

1022
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 1: We need to win every game we can. Let's see,

1023
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 1: we need to go through and on preseason, y'all. I

1024
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: don't think so. Oh boy, well, I'll try to win it.

1025
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: We'll finish up OTAs this week, right, and then we'll

1026
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: start voluntary without voluntary, mandatory mandatory this see, this is

1027
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: a volum told and then it's you better show or

1028
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 1: we're gonna tap them pockets. Uh? Is that next week?

1029
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: Next week? Next week? So mandatory mini camp starts next week.

1030
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: That's when all the big dogs are back. Dollar shows

1031
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: will be there, a slice of pizza. He doesn't show, okay,

1032
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 1: mini camp, Mini camp, Okay, really play. They can find

1033
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: they can they can find him up to like fifty

1034
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: grand a day every day he doesn't show. You ain't

1035
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: even got no money yet. I was saying, yeah, he

1036
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 1: still went on the first chair. You still holding on.

1037
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: You have to get an advanced advancing that money, Um,

1038
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: come on Man Hill. Come on, yeah, Don's gonna see

1039
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: you in the hallway. Now you got you got some

1040
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 1: words for you. Only person he's been been at having

1041
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 1: the words me is Parson. I looked at that dude.

1042
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's the only dude over the word. But

1043
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 1: that's the only one everybody else. Get with it, bro,

1044
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: brain what you got well, Nona do it? Fellas Man.

1045
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 1: Good to see you, Curtis. Thank you for joining us. Shannon. Yes,

1046
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: I hope your mom and dad down. Way to go,

1047
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 1: man with your mother, manthday, your mother every birthday. Well,

1048
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: good to have about me. Good, good to have you here, Nate, Chris,

1049
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: thank you for holding us down on the back, Chris Will,

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Speaker 1: Chris Will, bro Will for keeping us uploading. Is Jass

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Speaker 1: back there with you? Chris? What's up Jazz? We gotta

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Speaker 1: make sure Jashes back there holding down on one we

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Speaker 1: were about dollars show. We were about dolls shows. And

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Speaker 1: remember one thing before we go, what's that milk goes

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Speaker 1: first when you're making cereal? I'm out of here, hang

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Speaker 1: dumbest thing. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.