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Speaker 1: we do lots of big stories breaking this morning. Some

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Speaker 1: was a war criminal? And rather than being like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: because he was, they were like, no, no, she didn't

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Speaker 1: really say that, And here's the context, et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: That just revealed that, yeah, nothing has really changed in

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Speaker 1: this town. And so I have no doubt that some

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Speaker 1: of the people that we just cited, if they were

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Speaker 1: really being completely upfront, they would say, yeah, we should

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Speaker 1: actually risk that confrontation, and we should. It would be noble,

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Speaker 1: it would be the right thing to do for us

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Speaker 1: to have a direct military confrontation to remove Vladimir Putin

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Speaker 1: from power. Now. I do think the Biden administration this

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Speaker 1: I will give him credit for. He has been very

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Speaker 1: insistent on resisting calls for no fly zone on sort of.

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Speaker 1: He was reportedly the one who decided, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: this whole fighter jet thing probably not a good idea.

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Speaker 1: So he has been very clear from the beginning we

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Speaker 1: are not going to have a direct military confrontation. However,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think behind the scenes the administration what

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Speaker 1: they're talking about is trying to use economic pressure to

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Speaker 1: ultimately force Vladimir Putin out of power, and that's dangerous

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Speaker 1: as well. And by the way, if that is actually

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Speaker 1: your goal, our policies of indiscriminate sanctions are likely to

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Speaker 1: make it less likely that that is actually the result

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Speaker 1: that occurs, because again, you're giving Putin the ability to

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Speaker 1: say your pain and your suffering is because of the West.

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Speaker 1: They hate Russia, they hate you, They want to justus there.

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Speaker 1: You know, when we're banning like sports and celebrities and

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Speaker 1: anything that cun vodka, anything that comes out of Russia,

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Speaker 1: you make it very easy for him to persuade his

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Speaker 1: population that actually I'm correct, and they just hate everything

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Speaker 1: Russian and want to destroy us. So even if this

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Speaker 1: is your goal, if you think there is no endgame

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Speaker 1: except putin out of power, which again is what Nile

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Speaker 1: Ferguson was saying, you know that some AIDS are privately

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Speaker 1: saying you are making that outcome much less likely to happen,

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Speaker 1: and by your completely undisciplined like diarrhea of the mouth

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Speaker 1: on multiple occasions, you are also making that end less

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Speaker 1: likely to happen. And most importantly in the near term,

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Speaker 1: you are making escalation beyond the war in Ukraine as

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Speaker 1: it exists right now, You're making that more likely. We

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Speaker 1: talked a couple times about this idea of gambling for resurrection.

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Speaker 1: When you have a leader who's backed into a corner,

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Speaker 1: who feels like they're only move on the chessboard to

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Speaker 1: avoid complete defeat and humiliation is to take some outrageous move,

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Speaker 1: dangerous move that you would look at from the outside

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Speaker 1: and say this is completely insane. Well, you were making

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Speaker 1: that outcome much more likely, and that's why this is

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Speaker 1: so dangerous. But ultimately, I mean, you've got like a

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Speaker 1: couple of you've got one part of just like Neo

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Speaker 1: Khan instincts, still having never learned the lessons of Iraq,

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Speaker 1: You've got another part of just always wanting to cover

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Speaker 1: for whatever the administration does, and you end up with

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Speaker 1: this very toxic group. Yeah, that's exactly right. And look,

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Speaker 1: I mean already we see signs of some destabilization in Russia.

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Speaker 1: The Russian Defense Minister Sarahkai Shoga, he was missing for

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Speaker 1: like twenty days. Clearly, you know, probably there was some

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Speaker 1: recriminations happening behind the scenes. He's gone ahead and reappeared.

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Speaker 1: So many Russian generals have reportedly been killed, possibly on

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Speaker 1: the front, also possibly not on the front. These are

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Speaker 1: all things of destabilization within the regime, very characteristic of

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Speaker 1: a Russian leader who has his back against the wall

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Speaker 1: and who himself is grasping for power, and it would

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Speaker 1: not be outside the realm of possibility. In order to

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Speaker 1: try and up the ante, everybody go and read the

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Speaker 1: history of the Cold War. We, as Robert McNamara said,

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Speaker 1: we came this close to nuclear war. The only reason

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Speaker 1: that we avoided it was luck. Kennedy was rational, Kruse

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Speaker 1: Jeff was rational. The only thing that saved us was luck.

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Speaker 1: In the end, I don't want to be put back

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Speaker 1: in that position. And as they found out there when

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Speaker 1: thirteen days, you know, John F. Kennedy wakes up one morning.

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Speaker 1: Within two days, the ancient nation is literally on the

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Speaker 1: brink of a nuclear exchange. That's how quickly it can happen.

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Speaker 1: And that's why when the stakes are this high, it

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Speaker 1: matters in terms of managing the environment of which all

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Speaker 1: of this can possibly occur. And unfortunately with these media people,

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Speaker 1: they've learned nothing. They have an immense way over the

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Speaker 1: Democratic Party and the Democratic population, and they're all over TV.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there was a rally here in Washington calling

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Speaker 1: for a no fly zone where to Bill Crystal himself

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Speaker 1: spoke at. So that's the level of insanity that we're

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Speaker 1: doing now. By the way, trying to hold up Reagan

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Speaker 1: as like the patrons say, of great foreign policy is

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Speaker 1: troubling in and of itself. And that tear down that

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Speaker 1: Wall moment is a bit more sort of mythmaking after

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Speaker 1: the fact than it was in reality a game changer

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Speaker 1: in the Cold War. At the time, the media didn't

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Speaker 1: actually he strives to say, oh, the media like right,

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Speaker 1: they didn't really even pay that much attention to the line.

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Speaker 1: It didn't represent a significant shift or anything in foreign policy.

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Speaker 1: In fact, what a lot of historians say is that

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Speaker 1: he was trying to project this sort of like tough

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Speaker 1: guy image because he was facing some pressure from his

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Speaker 1: right flank over the fact that he was in dialogue

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Speaker 1: with and was opening with the Soviet Union and with Gorbachev.

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Speaker 1: So this was a way to sort of signal to

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Speaker 1: the domestic population that no, I'm still the tough guy.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, the Reagan comparison, let's just retire that one. Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, pulling some not so great news for Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden on how the public is feeling a basically anything

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Speaker 1: right now. This is per a new NBC News poll.

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Speaker 1: Let's go ahead, but Ken Vogels tweet up on the screen.

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Speaker 1: Bidenstom approval rating has declined to forty percent. That per

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Speaker 1: this poll is the lowest level of his presidency. Last

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Speaker 1: time it was measured in January is at forty three percent.

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Speaker 1: That's within the margin of error, but it does look

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Speaker 1: like he has ticked down here. Asmidge, seventy one percent

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Speaker 1: of respondent Sager expressed low confidence in his ability to

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Speaker 1: deal with Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Given what we were

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Speaker 1: just discussing, I can't imagine why they wouldn't be feeling

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Speaker 1: super confident and great about how he's handling things. Yeah. Oh,

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Speaker 1: it's absolutely shocking, and if you actually dive even deeper

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Speaker 1: into it, I just love this because for all the

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Speaker 1: talk of culture war, for all the Will Smith think

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Speaker 1: pieces that we're all about to have to live, all

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Speaker 1: people care about is inflation and gas and that, frankly,

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Speaker 1: that's what they should. Let's put this up there. As

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Speaker 1: Nate Silver put it, it it is common on this platform,

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Speaker 1: is referring to Twitter to hear critiques such as the

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Speaker 1: media devotes way too much attention to inflations, but voters

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Speaker 1: care about inflation much more than the media does. It

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Speaker 1: outpaces all issues, including Ukraine and now by a wide margin.

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Speaker 1: COVID so going and looking at this poll ranked by

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Speaker 1: percentage of most important. Number one cost of living in

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Speaker 1: terms of their first choice and combined choice, Number two

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Speaker 1: jobs in the economy in terms of the first choice

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Speaker 1: and the combined choice. Then war between Russia and Ukraine,

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Speaker 1: Then voting rights and election integrity, then climate change, then taxes,

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Speaker 1: then immigration and then coronavirus. So number one. The COVID

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Speaker 1: Cairns have finally been slayd in terms of their terms

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Speaker 1: of their influence over broader society. But number one is

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Speaker 1: just how much cost of living and jobs in the

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Speaker 1: economy overshadow the war in Ukraine by almost, you know,

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Speaker 1: two or threefold, and yet the level of attention that

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Speaker 1: it is getting in the mainstream media is just completely scanned.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we try to do a very hard job,

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Speaker 1: which is here, which is we know there's an immense

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Speaker 1: amount of interest in the war in Russia and also

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Speaker 1: given the stakes that we try to focus on that.

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Speaker 1: But we always have, you know, some focus on the oil,

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Speaker 1: you know, price of gas, crude markets, how exactly that's

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Speaker 1: going to affect you, food prices, heating oil, all these things,

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Speaker 1: because we know, I mean, so many of the people

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Speaker 1: who watch our show are just normal folks who are

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Speaker 1: fed up with the mainstream media and they want somebody

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Speaker 1: to speak to the concerns that actually animate their lives.

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Speaker 1: And the administration is just completely inept in their handling

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Speaker 1: of this crystal and they're getting hammered for it, and

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Speaker 1: I think they deserve to. They really do deserve too.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're not doing anything, do you know, When

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Speaker 1: it's very easy to look at the trends like when

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Speaker 1: he was doing well, and it's easy to forget, but

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Speaker 1: at the beginning of his administration, Yeah, very high approval rating.

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Speaker 1: You know, he was really popular. People were really happy

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Speaker 1: with what was going on. Guess what he was actually

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Speaker 1: doing stuff to try to make people's lives better. Checks

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Speaker 1: were going out, vaccines were being distributed. There was a

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Speaker 1: plan for you know, build back better, and we're going

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Speaker 1: to do a lot more that's going to be over

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Speaker 1: the long term to make things easier for you, whether

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Speaker 1: it's regard to childcare or elder care, making sure that

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Speaker 1: you know you can afford your prescription drugs. Now they're

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Speaker 1: just totally bogged down. There's no vision, there's no leadership,

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Speaker 1: there's no sense of urgency around the struggles that people

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Speaker 1: are facing in their day to day lives. The other

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Speaker 1: thing I wanted to comment on with regard to, you know,

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Speaker 1: that Neat Silver tweet that showed the breakdown of what

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Speaker 1: people's top choice issues were. So COVID is now the

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Speaker 1: first choice issue for only three percent of Americans, and

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Speaker 1: I do think that is directly attributable to the fact

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Speaker 1: that Biden in his State of the Union basically said

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Speaker 1: we're done fixating on COVID. Remember he said like people

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Speaker 1: should go back to school, people should be back in

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Speaker 1: the office. I kind of disagree with that one. But

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Speaker 1: he's saying like, Okay, we're moving forward, We're going to

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Speaker 1: have a different set of priorities. And he kind of

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Speaker 1: declared the COVID wars over, and partisans have followed. Suit

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Speaker 1: I would say, is what's going on there and why

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Speaker 1: it's so significantly dropped off the cliff even at a

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Speaker 1: time when you know, we may well see a surge

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Speaker 1: here from this new more infectious variant. But because he

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Speaker 1: signaled basically we're kind of done here, I think that

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Speaker 1: has shifted the priority of hard partisans who were fixated

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Speaker 1: on this. I think the media affects that too, obviously. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well they take their cues from him as well, and

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Speaker 1: so of course this is all, you know, it's all

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Speaker 1: sort of compounding effects. Let's dig a little bit more

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Speaker 1: into what some of this pulling showed, because there are

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Speaker 1: some war numbers about exactly how people feel that Biden

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Speaker 1: is doing on the economy. Let's put the NBC News

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Speaker 1: tear sheet from Mark Murray up on the screen. They

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Speaker 1: say Biden's job approval falls to lowest level of his

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Speaker 1: presidency amid war and inflation fears. So on the issues,

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Speaker 1: fifty one percent of adults actually say they approve of

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Speaker 1: Biden's handling of the coronavirus. That's up seven points from January.

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Speaker 1: I think again that is directly attributable to a very

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Speaker 1: clear shift in messaging and framing on the issue. People

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Speaker 1: are more satisfied with that. And also you do have

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Speaker 1: numbers down on COVID, and so we've seen approval ratings

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Speaker 1: on COVID kind of EBB and flow just depending on

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Speaker 1: how pervasive the infection rates are at this point. So

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Speaker 1: he's actually doing a little bit better there. Unfortunately, only

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Speaker 1: three percent of people say that that's their number one issue.

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Speaker 1: Forty two percent approve of his handling a foreign policy,

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Speaker 1: so he is underwater there. And this is the one

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Speaker 1: that's really devastating though. Only a third thirty three percent

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Speaker 1: approve of Biden's handling of the economy. That is down

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Speaker 1: five points. So you continue to see this significant slide

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Speaker 1: on the issue that is most important to people across

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Speaker 1: partisan lines here, guys. And when you're at only a

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Speaker 1: third thirty three percent approval, you've we's got a lot

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Speaker 1: of Democrats in that mix who are saying we're not

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Speaker 1: happy with what you're doing here either. You also have

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Speaker 1: catastrophic numbers in terms of right track wrong tracks. Seventy

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Speaker 1: one percent of Americans say they believe the nation is

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Speaker 1: headed on the wrong track, versus just twenty two percent

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Speaker 1: who say they think it's headed in the right direction.

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Speaker 1: This is also devastating. Sixty two percent of respondents say

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Speaker 1: their family income is falling behind the cost of living,

648
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Speaker 1: thirty one percent say they're staying even in six percent

649
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: say their income is going up faster than the cost

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Speaker 1: of living. So you've got sixty two percent saying this

651
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Speaker 1: inflation is causing me to fall behind and not really

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Speaker 1: be able to make it, and only six percent on

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Speaker 1: the other side saying, actually, things are going pretty well

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Speaker 1: for me. You look at that landscape, and it is

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Speaker 1: no wonder that you know, Republicans, through no doing of

656
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Speaker 1: their own, are poised to make significant gains in the

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Speaker 1: midterm elections. And some of these things are not Joe

658
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: Biden's fault, but his reaction to the events that have

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00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: played out. That's one hundred percent his fault, and that's

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00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: one hundred percent on him one hundred percent, And who

661
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: is to blame for inflation? What's to blame for inflation?

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Speaker 1: These numbers matter even more, I think, which is that

663
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: President Biden and his policies tops out at thirty eight percent.

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Speaker 1: Forty percent of the public nearly believes that Biden himself

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Speaker 1: is to blame for inflation. Number two is corporate price increases.

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Speaker 1: Number three is the COVID pandemic. And four, at the tiniest,

667
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: smidgiest little part is Russia's invasion of you. Well, and

668
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: they shouldn't be surprised because Republicans have been very consistent

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Speaker 1: in saying it's because of Biden. It's because of Biden.

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Speaker 1: It's because he put a little bit of money in

671
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Speaker 1: your pocket. That's the real problem here. And Democrats have

672
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: been handwringing about, oh, I don't know if we want

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Speaker 1: to blame corporations, and maybe we should, Maybe we should,

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Speaker 1: And there are some people in an administration who wanted to.

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Speaker 1: Occasionally they put on a little statement about the meat

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Speaker 1: packing industry or something. But you had a very clear,

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Speaker 1: compelling case of how corporate profiteering is making life more

678
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 1: difficult for workers. It's something that people intuitively sort of

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Speaker 1: respond to, but they were unwilling to effectively prosecute that case.

680
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: And so in the vacuum the Republican talking points here,

681
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,439
Speaker 1: they've been completely consistent on that's what ultimately is going

682
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 1: to win the day. I would add too, that in

683
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: a way they're not wrong because it's not even the

684
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: act of policy, it's his inaction, which is a policy itself,

685
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: which is partially to blame also for inflation, which is

686
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Speaker 1: he's not doing anything in order to ease the global

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Speaker 1: shipping crisis. I mean, I just checked yesterday. The rates

688
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Speaker 1: of shipping between China and the United States are still

689
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: like fivefold relative to what they were in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 1: We still have a massive container problem. Gas remains, you know.

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Speaker 1: I just got back from Los Angeles, where I was

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Speaker 1: last week. It is not uncommon there to see gas

693
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Speaker 1: at six fifty a gallon. I'm checking right now. The

694
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Speaker 1: triple A average in the state of California is five

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Speaker 1: dollars and ninety one cents. That's crazy in the state wide.

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Speaker 1: Somebody sent me a photo from Mendocino, which is apparently

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Speaker 1: the most expensive one in the city. It stills eight

698
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Speaker 1: to fifty a Gallon. I mean, can you imagine where

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Speaker 1: we live in Europe? You know, that's not really the

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00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: case they're making, though they're just saying like, oh, we

701
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: spent too much more normal. I totally understand. I'm saying

702
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: why it's resonating because people are like his inaction is

703
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: a choice, and so whenever in the apt look, as

704
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Speaker 1: you say, in an absence of action, a vacuum has

705
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: to be filled, and that will be filled by whatever

706
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: the Republican case is being made. I disagree with it.

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Speaker 1: I don't even think that they're making the correct one

708
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: in terms of them, and they'll certainly suffer whenever they

709
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: too have in action, and that inflation will be a problem.

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Speaker 1: But the Biden people, I do believe it is their

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00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,919
Speaker 1: fault for doing nothing and for allowing this to happen.

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Speaker 1: I mean, combat is a two part you know, our

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00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: political combat is a two party sport. If you're just

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Speaker 1: one allowing one person to wail on you the whole time,

715
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Speaker 1: then nearby definition losing by the fact that you're not

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Speaker 1: doing well and things are likely to get much worse

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00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: for them because you've got the Fed now lifting rates.

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Speaker 1: That's right, and saying they may go even more quickly

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Speaker 1: than they expected because inflation remains high. I mean a fact, Look,

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Speaker 1: when you're talking about the FED raising rates, you're basically

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Speaker 1: talking about slowing down the economy. And there is a

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Speaker 1: real danger that they actually sparkle recessions, something that more

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Speaker 1: and more analysts are saying they think is what is

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Speaker 1: going to happen. So as bad as things are right now,

725
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: there's definitely a chance that they could get significantly worse.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's actually kind of incredible. They did the

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Speaker 1: head to head like generic Republican versus generic Democrat, who

728
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Speaker 1: would you rather have control of Congress after the mid

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00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: term elections? Kind of surprise that Republicans only have a

730
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: two point lead on that answer, which I think is

731
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: also an indictment of the fact that they stand for nothing.

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Speaker 1: People don't have any like great confidence that Republicans are

733
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Speaker 1: going to ride into the rescue and really have a

734
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Speaker 1: plan to deal with this. We have a fun segment

735
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: for everybody on Wednesday coming all about this. Yes, indeed, indeed,

736
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Speaker 1: the last one I want to number I wanted to

737
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: pull out here about the war because obviously it is important.

738
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Speaker 1: Is you have eighty two percent of Americans who say,

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Speaker 1: they are concerned that the war is going to involve

740
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Speaker 1: nuclear weapons. So you know, I think that there is

741
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Speaker 1: I think that's very justified because as we're saying, especially

742
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: with Joe Biden and some of the comments he's making.

743
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Speaker 1: But you know, even if it is a small percentage chance,

744
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Speaker 1: this is something that people are feeling and they are

745
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: right to be concerned that this could ultimately escalate to

746
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: that point. So, you know, sort of chilling numbers there

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Speaker 1: of the way that people are evaluating what is happening

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Speaker 1: right now on the ground in your grain. Okay, let's

749
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Speaker 1: go ahead and move on to the former president. We

750
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: got to watch him closely because it's very likely to

751
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Speaker 1: be our next president, and he's been having some rallies

752
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: down in Georgia. Now, well, we've been trying to track

753
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: here is what is the power of Donald Trump in

754
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: these GOP primaries. There was a narrative that it was ironclad, unshakable,

755
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: but that's beginning to really start to at least fizzle

756
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: in the current age, with some of his primary people

757
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: that he endorsed losing in the polls, possibly going to

758
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 1: be losing in the primary, and the specter of kind

759
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 1: of his performance there not really as powerful as it

760
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 1: once was. All eyes are on this primary where Trump

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00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: promised that he was going to come to that state

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Speaker 1: and campaign as hard as he could against Brian Kemp

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Speaker 1: for governor of Georgia and endorsing David Perdue, who lost

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Speaker 1: his Senate bid there, who has gone full blown stop

765
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Speaker 1: the steal. Let's put this up there on the screen.

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Speaker 1: Trump visited Georgia for a rally there for David Perdue,

767
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Speaker 1: who has not been doing so well in the polls.

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Speaker 1: He attacked the governor Kemp, saying he's waging a war

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Speaker 1: on quote rhino sellouts. Here's what he said, quote Brian

770
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Speaker 1: Kemp is a turncoat, a coward, a complete and total disaster.

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Speaker 1: Before we can defeat the Democrats, socialists and communists, we

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Speaker 1: first defeat the rhino sellouts and the losers in the

773
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Speaker 1: primary this spring, referring to Kemp as the Republican in

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Speaker 1: name only, defining obviously Republican as whether you believe and

775
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: stop the steal or not. I like this. If Brian

776
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: Kemp is renominated, he will go down and flames at

777
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 1: the ballot box because Stacy will steal it from him

778
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 1: and humiliate him. Mabe like she will of the star

779
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Speaker 1: trek st So he's not just like this one in

780
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: the past was stolen, but he's going ahead and predicting

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Speaker 1: a future steal as well. Yeah, well that's a that's

782
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 1: a very smart strategy in the state where we already

783
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 1: lost twice or three times actually between the Senate race

784
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: and their own presidential But indeed, what's happening actually with

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Speaker 1: the pole let's put this up there. This is just

786
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Speaker 1: from three weeks ago. Governor Kemp is showing a big

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Speaker 1: lead over David Purdue in that primary race for governor.

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Speaker 1: The poll had Kemp at fifty percent and Purdue with

789
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Speaker 1: thirty nine despite receiving the endorsement of Donald Trump, and

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00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: the remaining ten percent they were unsure or would vote

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00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 1: for somebody else. Now why does that matter, Because if

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Speaker 1: Kemp prevails in this, he was the single biggest adversary

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Speaker 1: within the GOP towards stop this deal at the time,

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Speaker 1: because he was stuck between a rock and a hard place.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he basically, as governor had to certify the

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Speaker 1: election results in Georgia. He had no choice but to

797
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: do so. And then what ended up happening is that

798
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: Trump and everybody you know, concocted this kokamany idea that

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Speaker 1: he could have somehow swung the election in the state

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Speaker 1: of Georgia. And despite you know, all the inquiry and

801
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: looking into this, it doesn't matter to many of these people.

802
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 1: They consider it that he betrayed the president. Now, we

803
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: thought that, given the Republican base and you know, in

804
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: terms of their affinity for Trump and more, that they

805
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: were willing to swing completely on his word. But that

806
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: just doesn't seem to be. How it is both in

807
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: Georgia and in Alabama where Mobrooks who had previously endorsed

808
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,280
Speaker 1: and not been doing so well, also because he departed

809
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: there from Stop the Steal. And another important thing to

810
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Speaker 1: note here is how big exactly was the crowd in Georgia,

811
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Speaker 1: something that Trump loves to obsess over. Let's put this

812
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: up there well, as this is from the GBP to

813
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Speaker 1: Georgia Public broadcasting Trump's Republican revenge tour falters in Georgia,

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Speaker 1: and what they specifically point to is how the crowd

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Speaker 1: that gathered at this rally had a huge percentage of

816
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,760
Speaker 1: out of state people. But even worse for him, Crystal,

817
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: is that the crowd size was about one fourth to

818
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Speaker 1: one fifth of what he drew whenever he was running

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00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 1: for president. Now, his spokesperson said, that's fake news. Let's

820
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,280
Speaker 1: put this up there on the screen, very Trumpian fashion.

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Speaker 1: They said, Oh, it's ridiculous, it's fake news. There's a

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Speaker 1: massive crowd between twenty five and thirty five thousand. Let's

823
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: put this next one up there on the screen. Though,

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Speaker 1: if you compare it to the previous rally, there were

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Speaker 1: not twenty five to thirty five thousand people. The crowd

826
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Speaker 1: was far smaller and far quieter than the other rallies

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Speaker 1: in Georgia, and the actual attendance is somewhere between five

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Speaker 1: thousand people. So, you know, it's a classic Trump move

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Speaker 1: in order to say that this was you know, it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: He didn't draw a crowd. We shouldn't erase it and

831
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Speaker 1: say that. You know, it's not like thousands of people

832
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Speaker 1: didn't come. But compared to the crowds that he was

833
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: drawing in twenty twenty, there were five times larger than

834
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Speaker 1: what he was drawing there last night. It's again it

835
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: shows you that he appeals to the most diehard people

836
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 1: who all they care about is stop the steal. Yeah,

837
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: but Trump's ability in order to connect with the broader

838
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: American electorate was always this. People are willing to overlook

839
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: some of the most annoying, borish stuff that the guy does,

840
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: but they're like, I hate the left, especially the cultural left,

841
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: and the guy seems to know what he's talking about

842
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: when it comes to the economy, which, you know, we

843
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: can dispute that, but that's how people feel whenever it

844
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: comes to the conditions of their lives and why they

845
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 1: ended up voting for him. When all you care about

846
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: now is election conspiracy, then you're only going to be

847
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Speaker 1: able to draw out and really appeal to the people

848
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Speaker 1: who most care about that. Yeah. Now that doesn't mean

849
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,439
Speaker 1: he still wouldn't be able to win the election, because

850
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: he couldn't do that again. But in terms of how

851
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: he's conducting himself with the Republican base, he's showing us

852
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: and giving us a true test of how many of

853
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: them are there for him specifically on no matter what

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Speaker 1: he talks about. It's not nearly as large as a

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Speaker 1: number as frankly I would have even predicted. It's really

856
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: interesting because in that poll that we put up there

857
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: that has Kemp leading Purdue by a margin of fifty

858
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: to thirty nine. They dig into who still has a

859
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: favorable view of Trump within the Republican base, the numbers

860
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: are still pretty strong, though I would say probably not

861
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,720
Speaker 1: as strong as they used to be. You've got still

862
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: near least eighty percent of Republican primary voters who have

863
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 1: a favorable you of Trump. Among those that still favor

864
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: the president, fifty two percent support Purdue while thirty nine

865
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Speaker 1: percent support Kemp. So even among the people that are

866
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,760
Speaker 1: in that eighty percent saying look, I still like Trump,

867
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: He's still my guy, they're not going along with who

868
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: he's telling them to back in the primary, not overwhelmingly anyway.

869
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 1: And then on the other end, the people who are

870
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: done with Trump, who are still Republicans but are in

871
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: that twenty percent who have an unfavorable view of him.

872
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: There you have an overwhelming support for Kemp seventy percent

873
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 1: to fifteen percent. So, even though you still have pretty

874
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: high favorability numbers, though again I would say not as

875
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: high as they used to be, you don't have that

876
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: same sway that he wants used to exercise of people

877
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: basically saying, hey, if he says that Purdue is my guy,

878
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 1: then I'm going to back up. I'm going to back

879
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: up Purdue, and I think that does come directly from

880
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: your obsessing over an issue that is not top of

881
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: mind for people. I mean, we just went over the polling.

882
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: What if people care about They care about the economy,

883
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: they care about inflation, and if you aren't talking about that,

884
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: you're losing them. So even though well it should look

885
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 1: Biden has made a mess of things, people aren't happy

886
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 1: with him, it should be a cakewalk for Trump in

887
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, But his obsession with this issue, which

888
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: even for his own base, is not even close to

889
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: the number one priority, makes it very, very much less

890
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 1: likely that he ultimately would succeed in ascending to the presidence.

891
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's not possible, but I think once

892
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: people again are being fed Trump all day, every day

893
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: the way they used to, and all he's talking about

894
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: this stuff. Well, ask the Democrats how it went then

895
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 1: when they were obsessing over the Muller Report and over

896
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: Russiagate for years and years, which again was not the

897
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: top priority of the American people. You know, their ratings

898
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: fell off a cliff and they handed Trump a gigantic

899
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 1: victory that obviously he didn't really deserve. Yeah, one percent.

900
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,760
Speaker 1: I mean we kept saying this or at the election.

901
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: Trump had the most winnable election in modern history, and

902
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: he almost won, and he's still able to screw it up. Looks,

903
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: never underestimate Trump's ability also in order to f things up.

904
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: For those of you who are hardcore mag and you

905
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 1: claim to care about the issues, I watched him screw

906
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 1: up Daka. I watched him screw up the government shutdown.

907
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 1: I watched him screw up every possible thing that you

908
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: people supposedly care, Iraq, Afghanistan, withdrawing the troops, every single

909
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: thing he said he was going to do, oh that

910
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 1: BS Phase two China deal. The only thing he did

911
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: was cut corporate taxes. I mean, I liked, That's it.

912
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: And you know, I always try to remind people the

913
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: lowest point of Trump's presidency was the day that the

914
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: Tax Cuts and Jobs Act passed per public approval rating.

915
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: It was not Charlottesville, it was not you know, even COVID.

916
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 1: It was the day that they cut corporate taxes at

917
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 1: the most record rate. That's an important lesson for people

918
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 1: out there to have. And you know, people try to

919
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: build Trump up into some mid thost. He is one

920
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: of the most useless presidents who ever held the Oval office,

921
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 1: simply because he allowed all the people around him in

922
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 1: order to run things. But this is ultimately all the

923
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: man cares about. I think everybody should just be honest

924
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 1: about that. Yeah. And by the way, social media companies

925
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: are not doing the American people any favors by keeping

926
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: them from seeing that this is old. He cares about

927
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 1: your all day every day. And by the way, for

928
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 1: our own censors, obviously, the election was not stolen and

929
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: everything he's saying is complete nonsense. Here, so that we

930
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: don't get pulled down, thank you for not taking us

931
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: off YouTube. Although let's see how it goes out. Let's

932
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: go after this next one on Ginny Thomas. Now, this

933
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: was certainly a bit of a story, So let's go

934
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: ahead and put this up there on the screen for

935
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 1: those of the uninitiated. Jinny Thomas is the wife of

936
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Speaker 1: Chief of a Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. Now par

937
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 1: these text messages which just came out from the Washington Post,

938
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: reported by Bob Woodward and by Robert Costa, Ginny Thomas

939
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: urged the White House chief to pursue unrelenting efforts to

940
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: overturn the twenty twenty election in these text messages. These

941
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:56,240
Speaker 1: text messages, twenty nine in all, show a pipeline between

942
00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: Ginny Thomas. On November tenth, after news organizations protected Joe

943
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: Biden the winner, Thomas wrote to meados quote, help this

944
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: great president stand firm mark with very questionable pronunciation, questionable

945
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: punctuation and capitalization. I've never seen the three exclamation points

946
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: followed by three periods, never seen that. This is pure

947
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 1: boomerism in terms of that you are the leader with him,

948
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 1: who is standing for America's constitutional governance at the precipice.

949
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: The majority knows Biden and the Left is attempting the

950
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: greatest heist of our history. Meadows wrote to Thomas, the

951
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: White House chief of Staff invoked God to describe the

952
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: effort to overturn the election. This is the fight of

953
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: good versus evil, Meadows wrote, Evil always looks like the

954
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 1: victor until the king of King's triumphs. Do not grow

955
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: weary in the well doing the fight continues. I've staked

956
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 1: my career on it. Thomas replies, thank you. Needed that

957
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: this plus a conversation with my beast friend just now

958
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: I will try to keep holding on America is worth it. Now.

959
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: The messages do not directly reference Justice Thomas, to be

960
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 1: very clear, but it does show that she used her

961
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: access to Trump's inner circle basically, you know, in order

962
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: to pressure them to do the most bonkers stuff in

963
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: terms of stop to steal. And I think what this

964
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: shows you is the very peculiar, the peculiar institution of

965
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. You've over these people. They're up for

966
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: there for life. In terms of ethics and all this.

967
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: They don't have the same in terms of you or I,

968
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 1: or even in terms of in terms of members of

969
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: Congress or members of the Executive Bridge aren't subject to

970
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: any of ethics. Even other members of the judiciary are. Yes,

971
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: members of Congress even are subjected to some level of

972
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: code of ethics. But we just have like an honor

973
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 1: system with these people. Yeah, and let's put this next

974
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: one up there. It just shows you the actual text

975
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: message of the direct quote of this. And that's the

976
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,240
Speaker 1: only way that I can really choose to full disclosure.

977
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: By the way, I've mentioned Ee Thomas a couple of

978
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: times and from what I understood always about her within

979
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 1: the kind of conservative movement. And this is just my

980
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: experience in terms of what I I've heard is she's

981
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:04,240
Speaker 1: always been, let's just say, an odd bird. She's somebody

982
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 1: who was very, very into the Tea Party movement and

983
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: the rallies. This is somebody she actually caused a lot

984
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: of consternation at the time because of these same ethics

985
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: questions like is it really appropriate for the wife of

986
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: Supreme Court justice to be so politically involved in these movements? Now,

987
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: obviously that doesn't seem to apply in the media to

988
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: members of the left, but whatever. Now, in terms of

989
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: this with Jenny Thomas, I don't think there's any way

990
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 1: of describing this as outrageous behavior because what she has

991
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 1: done is leverage her position as a private citizen and

992
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: the wife of the Supreme Court justice to really become

993
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: a conservative activist in her own right, trading off of

994
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: her husband's name in Washington, d C. This is somebody

995
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: who been writing columns for a long time and used

996
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: her position in order to score meetings with Trump. Some

997
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 1: of the craziest meetings with Trump Crystal happened because of

998
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: Jimmy Thomas. I remember covering this at the time. It

999
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: was like twenty eighteen, she would barrel her way in

1000
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 1: there and demand the use of a conference room, demand

1001
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 1: and set up meeting with Trump in order to push

1002
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: conservative activists, who she said were true in full maga

1003
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: in order to try and put them in the administration.

1004
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 1: Reportedly handed him a list she thought were like deep

1005
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: State contribute you know, conspirators or whatever. Like she's a

1006
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: true I mean, she's a crank, but I think she's

1007
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: a true believer. She is a true believer. Sure, I

1008
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 1: think you can at least say she does what she's saying.

1009
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 1: I got to read a few more of these text messages,

1010
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 1: because there were twenty nine in all, and I think

1011
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 1: like they just show she went all the way in.

1012
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:35,280
Speaker 1: I mean, she was referencing like some of these conspiracies

1013
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: that Trump and had mail in ballots watermarked so that

1014
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,439
Speaker 1: they could track the fraud and that it was all

1015
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,240
Speaker 1: going to come undone she's she was, yeah, we forgot

1016
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 1: about that one, right, Yeah, memories. She was saying, like

1017
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: it's time to release the crack. And after a while

1018
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 1: you can see Meadows, who's basically just like you know,

1019
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: he's like a hack and just likes being in a

1020
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: position of powers. How I read him, he's trying to

1021
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 1: sort of placate her, and even him was she's trying

1022
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: to push, like, you got to put Sydney Palell out front.

1023
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: And I don't understand why she's taking a step back

1024
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: because remember there was that MoMA where she really went

1025
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: off the deep end, and she gets kind of like

1026
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 1: pulled out from being the public face of stop this deal.

1027
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: And he even says to her like, Sidney Palell doesn't

1028
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: have anything unless she's keeping it from us, she doesn't

1029
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:26,479
Speaker 1: actually have anything, And Ginny Thomas just responds, Wow. Here's

1030
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 1: another one of her texts. This was on November fifth.

1031
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:35,280
Speaker 1: She says, Biden crime family and ballot fraud co conspirators

1032
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 1: are being arrested and detained for ballot fraud right now

1033
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: and overcoming days, and we'll be living in barges off

1034
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 1: Gitmo to face military tribunals for sedition. So that's part

1035
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: of what she said. So anyway, the point is she's

1036
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: all the way in. She said, we were living through

1037
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: what feels like the end of America. Most of us

1038
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: are disgusted with the vice president and are listening mode

1039
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: to see where to fight with our teams. Those who

1040
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: attack the Capital are not representive our great teams of

1041
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: patriots for DJT. So in any case, there's a lot

1042
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,240
Speaker 1: to say about this. I think you framed it well

1043
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 1: because the only reason Mark Meadows is responding to this

1044
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: lady's text is because of who her husband is. And

1045
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: it's not just in this instance where she uses her

1046
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:25,240
Speaker 1: trades off her husband's name and power to herself achieve

1047
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 1: proximity and be able to lobby the president and his

1048
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 1: team directly. She actually runs a consulting firm where it

1049
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: literally says on her website, I can open I can

1050
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: open every door in Washington. And when you think about,

1051
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 1: like you know, we talk about corruption a lot on

1052
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: the show, and just take out of this, like what

1053
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: the political persuasion that these are right wing people that

1054
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 1: we're talking about. We know that even the appearance of

1055
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: corruption is a real issue. So you've had cases before

1056
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court that her husband has never re himself

1057
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: from that she is involved with organizations that are filing

1058
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: amicis briefs involved in the cases. You even have an

1059
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 1: instance where she is actually getting paid by one of

1060
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: the people who is involved in the case. You have

1061
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 1: like a direct financial relationship with people who have a

1062
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: vested stake and interest in the outcome of these cases.

1063
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: And as you said, there is no actual code of ethics.

1064
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: You just have to rely on these individuals who are

1065
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: appointed for life, and the only recourse is impeachment, which

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Speaker 1: is obviously an extraordinary and extreme measure. You have to

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Speaker 1: rely on them to be good faith stewards here. And

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Speaker 1: I think it's worth pointing out that other justices have

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00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: handled these types of direct conflicts of interest very differently.

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Speaker 1: And I'll give you two examples on sort of different

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00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:54,280
Speaker 1: sides of the partisan divide. Justice Stephen Bryer. His brother

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00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 1: is a judge, a federal judge in the Northern District

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00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 1: of California, and anytime a case comes before them that

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00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: has even gone through his brother's court, he recuses himself

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00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: because he doesn't even want the appearance of conflict. In

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, Justice Brett Kavanaugh, this is all from

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00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: Jane Mayer. He recused himself from a case that apparently

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00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 1: related to a family member. It looks like there was

1079
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: a nonprofit advocating an amicus brief had been filed, so

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Speaker 1: not even he's not even like directly involved in the case,

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00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 1: but an amicist brief had been filed by a cosmetics

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00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 1: trade association that Kavanaugh's father used to run. Okay, so

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00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 1: it's very tangential. It's an amicus brief filed by a

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00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 1: cosmetics trade association. His dad's not even involved in it anymore.

1085
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: But again, because he doesn't want the appearance of conflict,

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00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: he recuses himself. So all of this is to say

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00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 1: that the fact that Justice Thomas, on any of these

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00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: issues has never recused himself once is an outlier in

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00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: terms of behavior. And when you see the way that

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00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 1: she is like using her name and her proximity for profit,

1091
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: in access and to lobby people in power, it really

1092
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: is truly disturbing and it's gross. And from what I've

1093
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,320
Speaker 1: heard about Thomas, he's one of those people. He hates

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00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: the Left. He will never give in because of the

1095
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 1: whole Anita Hill thing, a true culture warrior kind of

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00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 1: you can see here reflected in his choice of partner.

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00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: My person favorite thing Crystal is that she texted him

1098
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: a YouTube video about this is the title and I'm

1099
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 1: not joking here. Trump Sting with CIA director Steve pe

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00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: Pisanic the biggest election story in our history. Comma QFS

1101
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: blockchain hilarious levels of capitalization. So this is very on

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00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 1: par with your boomer uncle's email forwards and believing every

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00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: single thing that somebody says in a way, look, she

1104
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: clearly believes what she's saying. I think is more of

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00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: an indictment of conservative media for feeding vulnerable people this

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00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 1: type of stuff. But on the broader message, it is

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00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: one of these people need to have some sort of

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00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 1: ethics codes that we could enact in order to have

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00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 1: better confidence. It should not be up to the discretion

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00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: of various different justices to recuse themselves or not based

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00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 1: upon their personality. And I personally think it's an outrageous

1112
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: conduct for somebody like this, and we call out corruption

1113
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: wherever we see it, even though it is quite annoying

1114
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 1: to know that all this is also being covered by MSNBC.

1115
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: But it is what it is, because that's what the

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00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: news business should be. Yes, indeed, and I hope you

1117
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: guys have experience with us that we are consistent when

1118
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: it comes to corruption. And we were just as happy

1119
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: to talk about Nancy Pelosi as we are to talk

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Speaker 1: about Justice Thomas. All Right, guys, we've got a couple

1121
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 1: of little Oscar stories here that we have to talk about.

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00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: So first of all, we have an update on the

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00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 1: whole Zolensky at the Oscars thing. So he did not

1124
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 1: here's it did not happen. We're waiting with baited breath.

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00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: But I also think that the way that this story

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00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: was originally presented was not accurate because when we covered

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00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: it the first time, Amy Schumer was sort of trying

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00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: to take credit like this was her idea, that she

1129
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 1: had floated, the idea of z Lensky speaking at the Oscars,

1130
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 1: and that this gets shot down by they didn't want

1131
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:02,479
Speaker 1: to go there, but I'm willing to go there, et cetera,

1132
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 1: et cetera. It appeal appears that that was more of

1133
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: like Amy trying to sort a virtue signal on the

1134
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 1: hot issue of the day, because in reality, the reporting

1135
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 1: is now that Zelenski himself was trying to angle to

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00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: get an Oscar's appearance. And he has to remember that

1137
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: this is a man who comes out of media who

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00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 1: and not just him, because this is the part that

1139
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 1: people forget. His entire political party came directly out of

1140
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 1: his television production that he literally turned his production company

1141
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: into his political team. So it's not just him that

1142
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 1: has this sense of the media that he obviously has

1143
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 1: been able to utilize, I would say, very effectively in

1144
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 1: almost all instances. Will leave Israel aside because that one

1145
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 1: didn't land so well. But he has a keen understanding

1146
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: of how to message to people and the importance of

1147
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 1: these sort of like cultural events. Although I would say

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00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 1: that the oscars are much diminished in terms of their

1149
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 1: ultimate cultural power. You have a lo a lot of actors, though,

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01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 1: who really want to sort of signal. I think Amy

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01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 1: Schumer is the perfect example of this of just how

1152
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 1: invested there in the Ukrainian cause, just what good people

1153
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: they are, the activities that they are undertaking. And the

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01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 1: person who went above and beyond rhetorically was actor Sean

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01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 1: Penn who said that he would melt down his Oscar

1156
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: if Zelensky didn't get to speak at the awards ceremony.

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01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,479
Speaker 1: Let's take a listen to that. If it turns out

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01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 1: to be what's happening, I would encourage everyone involved to

1159
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 1: know that though it may be their moment, and I

1160
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,959
Speaker 1: understand that to celebrate their films, it is so much

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01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 1: more importantly their moment to shine and to protest and

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01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 1: to boycott that Academy awards, and I myself, if it

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01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 1: comes back to it when I return, I will smelt

1164
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 1: mine in public. I pray that's not what's happened. I

1165
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 1: pray there have not been arrogant people who consider themselves

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01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: representatives of the greater good in in my industry that

1167
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 1: have not decided to check in with leadership in Ukraine.

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01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna hope that that that's not what's happened,

1169
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 1: and I hope that everybody walks out if it is

1170
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Speaker 1: him appearing on tib Acostatute for this and speaking of

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01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 1: errands arrogance, my god Adam Kinziger co signs this idea

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01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 1: from Sean Penn. Let's go ahead and put that up

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01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 1: on the screen. He says that Sean Penn is one

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01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 1: percent right. I mean, I will say I feel a

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01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 1: little different about it, knowing that it was Lensky himself

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01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 1: that floated this, because when it was Amy Schumer, I

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01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 1: was like, dude, is in the middle of a war, Like,

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01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 1: what are you thinking? He clearly has better things to do.

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Speaker 1: But obviously Zelenski himself did not feel that he had.

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01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 1: He felt that this would be important for him. I

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01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 1: also think that the Sean pin is actually in Poland

1182
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 1: right now because he just filmed a documentary in Ukraine

1183
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 1: about Russia's invasion there starting in twenty fourteen, So I

1184
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 1: kind of get that he has this emotional connection to

1185
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 1: the Ukrainian people as well, So I do want to

1186
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 1: put all of that out there. I also thought frankly

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01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 1: that the Academy's reason they gave for not having Zelensky

1188
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 1: was kind of bullshit. They were like, we don't want

1189
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 1: it to be political. Well, of course, I mean poscars

1190
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 1: are always political. Everything is political, and I hate this

1191
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 1: excuse of like, well, we don't really want to get

1192
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 1: into it. All that being said, am I really cheering

1193
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 1: for an opportunity for Zelensky to make an emotional peal

1194
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 1: appeal for like a no fly zone and sparking World

1195
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 1: War three? Am I sad that that didn't happen? No,

1196
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 1: I am, Yeah, I agree with you. Also, my biggest

1197
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory that I buy into is that Sean Penn

1198
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 1: is somehow some sort of like CIA asset, a guy

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01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 1: is always abroad. If that ended up as Choppo, Choppo

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01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 1: was literally got because of him, which you know, that's

1201
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 1: some sketchy circumstances there in terms of that happened, He's

1202
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 1: always in like Cuba and Venicezuela. Look, he seems to

1203
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,959
Speaker 1: be a very volatile character, and I guess God bless

1204
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 1: him for standing with Ukrainian people and being there, you know,

1205
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 1: I guess that's a good thing. That being said, I

1206
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 1: think his ever presence in these conflict hot zones is

1207
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 1: a questionable origin as to why exactly this is all happening.

1208
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 1: I think it's just, you know, the celebrity arrogance around.

1209
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 1: You know, people must take a stand all that. Look,

1210
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 1: we the last thing that all of us want is

1211
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 1: for you people taking stands and telling us how to

1212
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 1: live our lives, are how national policy should be. If

1213
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 1: President Selensky wants to make an appeal, then that's up

1214
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 1: to him, and it's also up to the Oscars in

1215
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 1: order to make that happen. But for everybody else up

1216
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 1: there that night, just let it be, thank your people,

1217
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 1: move on, enjoy your life, all the part of it.

1218
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 1: Because I'm trying to figure out, like why I'm having

1219
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 1: this reaction to the idea of it. Yes, I think

1220
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 1: it's because like clearly Ukraine has become the cool kid

1221
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 1: issue of this. Yeah, that's that's why all of us

1222
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,439
Speaker 1: and so are looking at it in this way. Yeah.

1223
01:03:56,520 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 1: So that especially when it was like framed his Amy Shu,

1224
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 1: who has no connection to Ukraine and is clearly just

1225
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 1: trying to like, you know, signal that she's she's with

1226
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 1: and she cares and she's bold and she's courageous and whatever.

1227
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 1: But then she ends up looking even worse because it

1228
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 1: seems like it wasn't even she sort of framed it

1229
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 1: like this was her idea and it was really bold

1230
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 1: and courageous, and that doesn't even seem to be the case.

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01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 1: You also have Mila Kunis, who is Ukrainian right and

1232
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 1: her husband Ashton Kutcher, didn't even know they were married

1233
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 1: because I'm so cool rock, I literally do live on

1234
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 1: her anyway. They raised like thirty million dollars for I

1235
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 1: think Ukrainian refugees, like more power to you. I know

1236
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 1: that they did at the oscars like a call for

1237
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 1: people to donate. Totally appropriate. But as I said, there's

1238
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 1: just there are a lot of good causes in the world.

1239
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 1: There are a lot of crises in the world. There's

1240
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 1: a lot of wars in the world. Some of which

1241
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 1: the US state is complicit in, and I would say

1242
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 1: in particular, you know, Saudi and Yemen, and so I

1243
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 1: guess that's why I have this reaction to this is

1244
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 1: it's a sort of like everybody's decided this is the

1245
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 1: cause of the moment. They want to associate themselves with it,

1246
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 1: whether they're actually doing anything good to resolve the issue

1247
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 1: or not. And as I said already, am I sad

1248
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 1: that Vilensky didn't get an opportunity to make an emotional

1249
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 1: appeal at the OSCARS for like an o fly zone,

1250
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 1: something that I totally understand why he wants, and you know,

1251
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 1: for the interests of his people, but which is not

1252
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 1: in the interest of our people are ultimately world peace.

1253
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 1: Am I sad that he didn't get to have that moment? No,

1254
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 1: I'm not. Yeah, I think that's right. The miili Quness

1255
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 1: thing is a perfect example. She's literally from Ukraine. I

1256
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 1: remember reading that. I think she uh, I was a

1257
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 1: huge fan of that seventies show and how she literally

1258
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 1: I think learned English by watching television. Oh really while

1259
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 1: she was growing up. Yeah, A longtime lover of like

1260
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 1: TV the medium. She obviously got her start when she

1261
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 1: was like a teenager on the show. So I think

1262
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 1: it's perfectly appropriate for her and for action Coachure in

1263
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 1: order to do something like that, because it's literally personal.

1264
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 1: But yes, the broader reaction that we're all having to

1265
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 1: is like, ough, can these people just I remember actually

1266
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 1: this during the Iraq War, how infuriating it was to

1267
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 1: watch these celebs just glom onto it because it was

1268
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:11,919
Speaker 1: the cool thing to do, like when Michael Moore would

1269
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 1: get up there and Michael's you know, gone in a

1270
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 1: little bit of a different direction now, but at that

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01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 1: time I thought it was righteous, you know, during the

1272
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 1: forendnight nine to eleven and speaking out against the war

1273
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 1: because that was literally his job, and you know, and

1274
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 1: speaking out against George W. Bush. But for others, it

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Speaker 1: just clearly they were doing it in order to try

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01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 1: and get screen time, and that's where it was aggravating,

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01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 1: and frankly, I think it probably did more damage to

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01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 1: the anti Iraq war cause because a lot of people

1279
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 1: who hate those celebrities and that type of celebrity, that

1280
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 1: idea of being talked down to by Hollywood elites, will

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01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 1: take a contrarian position just to take it. So that's

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01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 1: what I can always see. Anytime I see a celebrity

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01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 1: cause become something like this, I'm like, well, first of all,

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01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 1: it's going to have the opposite intended effect. And second

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01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 1: it's like you people giving the whole Harvey Weinstein skeewiness

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01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 1: that you've all engaged in. Nobody wants to see you

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01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 1: people be the moral arbiters. Yeah, they only ever pick

1288
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 1: issue The Ukrainian cause is just like, I don't want

1289
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:04,439
Speaker 1: anybody to misinterpret what I'm saying here, But they only

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01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 1: ever pick issues that are like, you know, it's sort

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01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 1: of comfortable society and like sanctioned by you know, the

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01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 1: cultural oftentimes political lead. Yeah, anyway, okay, on the second

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01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 1: part of this is a very contentious debate happened right

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01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 1: here on breaking points and with our control room set

1295
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 1: to shouting out at all of them. You all might

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01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 1: have noticed everybody's talking about it. Chris Rock took a

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01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 1: slap to the face by Will Smith after entailing a

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01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 1: joke about his wife. We have the uncensored version of

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01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 1: that from Australian television. Let's take a listen. Jada, I

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Speaker 1: love you, g I Jane too, can't wait to see

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Speaker 1: it all right, that was a nice one. Okay, I'm

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01:07:49,760 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 1: out here, Oh Richard, Oh wow wow. Will Smith just

1303
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 1: smacked the shit out of me. Name out your fucking mud?

1304
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 1: Wow dude, Yeah it was a gi jan jo Keith

1305
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 1: my what name out your fucking I'm going to Okay, Okay,

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01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 1: yikes Uh. Props to Chris Rock for keeping his keeping

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01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 1: his composure during all of that. So we had to

1308
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 1: find a political angle to the story and some politicians.

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01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 1: Two members of the squad decided to jump in, but

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01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 1: quickly deleted their takes. Here, let's put this up there

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01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 1: on the screen. First one was from Representative Aana Presley, who,

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01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 1: to be fair, actually does have alopecia herself, much like

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01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 1: Jada Pinkett Smith. She said, Alopecia nations stand up. Thank

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01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 1: you Will Smith. Shout out to all the husbands who

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01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 1: defend their wives living with alopecia in the face of

1316
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 1: daily ignorance and insults. Hashtag oscars. Women with baldis are

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01:08:56,280 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 1: for real men only only boys need not apply. The

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01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 1: second one, Jamal Bowman, let's put this up there on

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01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 1: the screen, said quote teachable moment. Don't joke about a

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01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 1: black woman's hair. Okay, I have a lot of thoughts

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01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 1: on this, Crystal, I personally am completely on the side

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01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 1: of Chris Rock. These narcissistic celebrities literally live their lives

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01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 1: for commentary by the elite. Will Smith and her his

1324
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 1: wife literally do entire podcasts about having cheating on each

1325
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 1: other and adultry. Yeah, they could do whatever they want

1326
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 1: a couple. I'm gonna judge a marriage. I don't care.

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01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:31,760
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is is you live your life for

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01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 1: the spectacle and want commentary. And when Chris Rock, a

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01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 1: fellow black man, makes fun of your wife in for

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01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 1: entertainment and was also a GA g I Jane joke,

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01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:46,640
Speaker 1: losing your composure like that in the oscars is very

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01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 1: embarrassing for you personally, and also it's an outrageous kind

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01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 1: of breach of decorum. So I'm completely on the side

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01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 1: of Chris Rock here. I think Will Smith made a

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01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 1: fool out of himself last night, but I know that

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01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 1: you feel very differently, so I think the audience learned

1337
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 1: to take as well. Violence is never the answer that However, listen,

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01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:09,679
Speaker 1: if you're going to joke about a man's wife's medical

1339
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 1: condition and the joke is not even funny, it wasn't

1340
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 1: that funny that. I agree that was the worst part

1341
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 1: of the joke. You have to expect there are going

1342
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 1: to be some repercussions, and I think people are going

1343
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 1: over that. They're like, oh, Will Smith assaulted Chris Er,

1344
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 1: he slapped Chris Rock. Everybody perfectly fine. So do I

1345
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 1: think that this is a proportionate response to making a

1346
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 1: bad joke about your wife's medical condition? Yes? I do.

1347
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 1: Oh wow, all right, because so she has alopecia. This

1348
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 1: isn't like a hairstyle. I would whatever, I would, honestly,

1349
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 1: that's on him to not know that, right, I would

1350
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 1: feel differently about it if this was just like a

1351
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 1: hairstyle choice. By the way, Jada Smith is beautiful and

1352
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:55,679
Speaker 1: she can obviously pull it off very well. She looks great,

1353
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:59,719
Speaker 1: as does Aana Presley. But you know, when you're messing

1354
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:03,680
Speaker 1: around people's medical conditions, that's not cool. And he you know,

1355
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 1: it was the greatest moment for Will Smith, But was

1356
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:09,599
Speaker 1: a proportionate responsible slapped the face? Yeah, I think it's possible.

1357
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 1: I frankly, what I abhor is the racial angle to

1358
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:14,800
Speaker 1: all of this. You know, I'm frankly, I'm glad that

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01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 1: you just put it that way. It's like you talk

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01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 1: about a man's wife. Okay, fine, that we could get

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01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 1: into this. What I just so annoyed by is exactly

1362
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 1: the Jamal Bowman type anger and trying to make this

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01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 1: into some racial commentary. Look, I think Will Smith made

1364
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 1: a fool out of himself. Frankly, his speech afterwards were

1365
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 1: apparently he was in tears and he was like, I

1366
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:38,559
Speaker 1: apologize to them. And this is why he's afraid, because

1367
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:40,559
Speaker 1: they thought they were going to kick him out after

1368
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 1: heone his award. And it's unclear whether he'll ever win

1369
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 1: an oscar, Like right after that he might get it

1370
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 1: pulled apparently because he violated the Academy's code of conduct.

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01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 1: So what he's afraid of in that moment is, oh

1372
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 1: my god, I'm never gonna win an oscar again. How

1373
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 1: I'm many cats? Okay, So to what you were saying

1374
01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 1: about the podcast, and I'm talking about all of that.

1375
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 1: That was I don't know if you guys watched that,

1376
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:03,679
Speaker 1: it was incredibly uncomfortable to watch. So I do wonder

1377
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:05,600
Speaker 1: if there's a little element of like Will Smith re

1378
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 1: establishing his manhood here. That's a good point. The other

1379
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 1: the other part of this is it does feel a

1380
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 1: lot of people are pointing out he's laughing initially at this, yes, right,

1381
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 1: and then I don't know if it's he sees Jada

1382
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:22,720
Speaker 1: is upset by She's clearly instantly upset by it. And

1383
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 1: so then there's like a very clear change in emotion

1384
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 1: here and he goes up on stage and slaps Cross Rock.

1385
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 1: I also want to say, generally more of a Chris

1386
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:33,600
Speaker 1: Rock fan than a Wilson whatever, but I was devastated.

1387
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 1: I apparently missed Chris Rock. I was at the comedy

1388
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 1: Store on Friday night. Apparently I missed Chris Rock. I'm

1389
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 1: such a big Chris Rock fan. But serious sad for me. Look,

1390
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 1: I think it's a hilarious I mean I think so.

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01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:45,439
Speaker 1: I guess the other question is like, is was this

1392
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 1: more performative from actually actually whether it was stage? I

1393
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 1: wonder that too. Chris are both Chris declined to press

1394
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:57,720
Speaker 1: charges against the guy. Apparently P Diddy is playing matchmakers,

1395
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 1: so we're all going to work this out. Why is

1396
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 1: this happening? So look, some fun celebrity moments here on

1397
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 1: breaking points. No, it's not the most important thing in

1398
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 1: the world, but apparently everybody's talking about it. So why

1399
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 1: why not us as well? Crystal, what are you taking

1400
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 1: a look at? Well, y'all, you might recall that a

1401
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 1: while back, AOC grabbed headlines in trademark fashion by wearing

1402
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:22,639
Speaker 1: a custom tax the Rich dress to party with elites

1403
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 1: at the MET Gala. Not wanting to prejudge at the time,

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01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 1: I said, the dress with either a textbook example of

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01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 1: cosplaye class politics to make elites feel virtuous while posing

1406
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 1: no actual threat, or it was a savvy use of

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01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 1: celebrity and access to carry a subversive message. It would

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01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:40,559
Speaker 1: all depend, I said, on AOC's actions. Would she upset

1409
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 1: the Apple card of power or enable it? Well, now

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01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:48,280
Speaker 1: we have the absolutely final, definitive answer, because we just

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01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 1: learned that at the same time AOC was at the

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01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 1: Met Gala with her performative and ultimately completely harmless display,

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01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 1: she was abandoning Amazon workers who were actually in the

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01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 1: fight launging the billionaire class in a meaningful way with

1415
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:05,759
Speaker 1: their jobs on the line. So here's the full story

1416
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:08,679
Speaker 1: of what exactly is going on. There is an outside

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01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 1: chance that the labor landscape could be completely remade this week,

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01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:15,759
Speaker 1: with profound impacts for blue collar and service workers across

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01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 1: the country. This week, we are expected to get election

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01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 1: results in two separate union elections at Amazon warehouses. There's

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01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:25,760
Speaker 1: a redo election in Best Mora, Alabama, and there's a

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01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:28,639
Speaker 1: brand new effort to organize workers at a large Amazon

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01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:32,520
Speaker 1: warehouse on Staten Island, which is called JFK eight. Amazon's

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01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:35,560
Speaker 1: impact on the nation's workers is profound. One out of

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01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 1: every one hundred and fifty three workers is an Amazon employee.

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01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 1: That means that the employer has tremendous impact on wages

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01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 1: and working conditions and unionization rates, not just for their

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01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:48,719
Speaker 1: own workforce, but for the entire nation. In a sense,

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01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:52,000
Speaker 1: even though union efforts at Amazon have thus far failed

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01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 1: these courageous worker organizers, they've already had some measurable impact.

1431
01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 1: Amazon has recently launched a major pr push to improve

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01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:01,879
Speaker 1: it in it of how they treat their blue collar workforce,

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01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:04,720
Speaker 1: and they have up their wages and some benefits over

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01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 1: the past year, along with reaching a settlement with the

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01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 1: NLRB which required them to notify workers of their rights

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01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:13,840
Speaker 1: to organize. But in spite of these changes made under duress,

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01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:17,600
Speaker 1: Amazon continues to be a drag on wages and conditions

1438
01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 1: for workers nationwide. This is why this fight matters so much.

1439
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 1: When Amazon talks about their wages, they like to compare

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01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 1: their starting wage of eighteen dollars per hour roughly to

1441
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:29,679
Speaker 1: the federal minimum of seven dollars and twenty five cents,

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01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 1: and to low paid service sector jobs like those at

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01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 1: fast food restaurants or retailers. From that perspective, yeah, Amazon

1444
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 1: work looks pretty good. But warehouse work has long commanded

1445
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 1: solid middle class wages and decent benefits, much closer to

1446
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 1: factory work than to retail. As Amazon seeks to turn

1447
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 1: warehouse work into just another McJob, they are dragging down

1448
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 1: standards for workers across that entire industry. In other words,

1449
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 1: if all was well with American workers, service work standards

1450
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:00,840
Speaker 1: would be getting pulled up to match the solid wages

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01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:03,640
Speaker 1: of logistics and factory work, creating another pathway to a

1452
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 1: stable middle class life. Instead, logistics work is getting pulled

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01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 1: down by Amazon to meet the precarity of the vast

1454
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 1: service sector, dimming the prospects for workers nationwide. In fact,

1455
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 1: according to a Government Accountability Office report a few years back,

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01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 1: Amazon had more workers on food stamps than any other

1457
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 1: American companies save for Walmart, McDonald's, Dollar Tree, and dollar general.

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01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 1: What's more, research shows that when an Amazon warehouse opens,

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01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 1: wages drop for all warehouse workers in the county and

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01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 1: take five years just to get back to where they

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01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:39,240
Speaker 1: were before Amazon decided to come to town. So an

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01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 1: example of that in Robinson, New Jersey, warehouse workers were

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01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:46,640
Speaker 1: making twenty four dollars per hour before Amazon showed up. Afterwards,

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01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:50,639
Speaker 1: that average wage had plummeted nearly thirty percent to seventeen

1465
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 1: dollars and fifty cents. Simply put, Amazon workers get injured

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01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 1: more and paid less than other warehouse workers, and the

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01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 1: company is destroying the standards of the whole industry. Close

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01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:03,080
Speaker 1: one more patch to stability and dignity for workers, right

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01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 1: at the time when logistics has become completely central to

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01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:09,559
Speaker 1: the American economy. That's why these labor fights are so critical.

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Speaker 1: Beyond Bessemer and beyond Staten Island. They are truly the

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01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:14,719
Speaker 1: frontline of the war to give workers back their humanity.

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01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:17,519
Speaker 1: No war, but class war, as they say, come is

1474
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:19,599
Speaker 1: no surprise to you. The media has been largely silent

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01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 1: about both of these new efforts after receiving significant political

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01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 1: and media attention. The new vote in Bessemer has flown

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01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 1: almost completely under the radar. You might think that it

1478
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 1: would be a big national story that one of the

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01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:35,240
Speaker 1: nation's largest and most influentials company influential companies created so cheated,

1480
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 1: so blatantly that they were forced to redo a union election.

1481
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 1: The corporate media doesn't choose which story is to cover

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01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 1: based on what matters, preferring simply to push whatever storylines

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Speaker 1: happen to fit their narratives. The Staten Island Amazon election is,

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Speaker 1: if anything, even more significant. New York is the most

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Speaker 1: pro union state in the country. Workers are employing a

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Speaker 1: novel strategy of organizing using a brand new worker led union.

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Speaker 1: Front of the show. Chris Smalls is leading this effort,

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01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 1: and his story is nothing if not compelling. Amazon fired him,

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Speaker 1: you might recall, for daring to speak out about their

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Speaker 1: lack of concern for workers during COVID. Top executives, including Bezos,

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01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:12,680
Speaker 1: were then caught attempting to smear him as quote not

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Speaker 1: smart or articulate, deploying the most thinly veiled racism and

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01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 1: classism of all time. Now, against all odds, Chris's spearheaded

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Speaker 1: a brand new union collected enough signatures at two different

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Speaker 1: New York locations to trigger union elections. In other words,

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Speaker 1: Amazon dramatically underestimated this man who has now pulled off

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Speaker 1: what other established unions in New York failed to do

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Speaker 1: by even bringing unionization to a vote. What is much

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Speaker 1: more profoundly disappointing for me, at least, is that the

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Speaker 1: most reliable pro union voices in Congress they have not

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01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 1: just been silent, but they have truly betrayed this movement.

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Speaker 1: As I already mentioned, this includes AOC, but also includes

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Speaker 1: Mondair Jones. They both represent organizing New York Amazon workers,

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01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 1: and even Bernie Sanders himself. Much as it pains me

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01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:57,680
Speaker 1: to say it, When Colin I recently spoke to Chris

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01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:01,040
Speaker 1: Small's he reluctantly shared how one appas for another. These

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01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 1: politicians broke their promises to show up for Amazon workers

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01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 1: on Staten Island, turning their backs on perhaps the most

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01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 1: critical labor effort in the entire country. So we had

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Speaker 1: politicians cancel on us the day before our rallies. MH,

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01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 1: you know AOC, who else? You know? My dear Jones?

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01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:23,839
Speaker 1: You know people I spoke to in person and personally

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01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 1: invited them to come to Staten Island to talk to

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Speaker 1: their constituents. You know, they have people that work work

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01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:34,559
Speaker 1: there in their district, you know, to try to help,

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01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:39,680
Speaker 1: you know, gain some support. No, we had no politicians

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01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 1: from the left fard the squad show up yet. I

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01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:45,800
Speaker 1: met Corey Bush as well, you know, just pictures of

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01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 1: all of us there. Uh. We stayed on the steps.

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01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 1: I brought them food, I brought them AOU shirts. I

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01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:57,599
Speaker 1: had workers with me for workers with me. We tried

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01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 1: to convince them to come up here. AOC was really

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01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:02,680
Speaker 1: excited about it. He was like, yeah, I'm there, take

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01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:05,600
Speaker 1: my information, talk to all their staffers. I met with

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01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 1: the team several times. I had like three meetings over

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01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 1: zoom or whatever. We were talking on leading up to

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01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 1: our rally. Everything was good, and then the last second

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01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 1: it was like, uh, yeah, they can't you know, they

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01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:22,479
Speaker 1: can't make eyes. They said it's a security threat for AOC,

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01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:24,639
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I was just sleeping on the steps

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01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 1: where in DC he had no security where. Yeah, I

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01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:30,519
Speaker 1: made you one person there or whatever. But it didn't

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01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 1: make me sense because they said they cancel all her

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01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:34,560
Speaker 1: in person meetings with the rest of the month, and

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01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:36,519
Speaker 1: then a couple of weeks later she had to met gallu.

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01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:41,600
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I knew, you know that is that's devastating,

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01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 1: that's you know, that's a devast Listen. I can't get

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01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 1: into their heads and tell you why one after another

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01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 1: day back down and their promises. Why AOC found the

1540
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:51,200
Speaker 1: time to gallivan and a tax the rige dress with elites,

1541
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 1: But couldn't we bother to show up for one of

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01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:56,600
Speaker 1: the most important efforts to actually threaten the wealth and

1543
01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:59,479
Speaker 1: power of the billion Our class have left more broadly

1544
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 1: lapsed into Twitter wars and performative displays over any real

1545
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 1: attempt to do anything. Now, there are exceptions to this,

1546
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 1: no doubt. Shout out to Jordan Sheridan, Max Salveris, Jonah Firman,

1547
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 1: Kim Kelly, and a lot of others who have gone

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01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:13,800
Speaker 1: above and beyond to report on these efforts. And look,

1549
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 1: there is no doubt these union drives. They're a long

1550
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 1: shot effort. But when the labor movements supposed fiercest allies

1551
01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:23,519
Speaker 1: can't be bothered to show up or speak out, you

1552
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 1: end up creating a self fulfilling prophecy. Not to mention,

1553
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:30,799
Speaker 1: as I mentioned, we've already seen how just the credible

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01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 1: threat of unionization has forced Bezos and Co. To make

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01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 1: some concessions to workers. Already, there is no reason that

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01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:40,799
Speaker 1: the Amazon union drives could not spark a nationwide domino effect,

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01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:44,759
Speaker 1: just as the Starbucks effort has. But unfortunately, as Amazon

1558
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:47,559
Speaker 1: has quietly said about destroying what's left of the middle class,

1559
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:51,120
Speaker 1: a self obsessed left can hardly be bothered to notice

1560
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 1: or to stand with those who would fight back and

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01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 1: kind of says it, Ali Sager, you can find the

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01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 1: time to wear the dress at the met Gala, but

1563
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:01,519
Speaker 1: you go back on your promises. And if you want

1564
01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:04,479
Speaker 1: to hear my reaction to Crystal's monologue, become a premium

1565
01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 1: subscriber today at Breakingpoints dot com. All right, Sager, what

1566
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:11,559
Speaker 1: are you looking at? Why can't people just be normal?

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01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 1: It's the question that plagues most of us. If I

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01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 1: meet people and they tell me with respect that what

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01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:18,800
Speaker 1: I do sounds interesting, but that they hate the news,

1570
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:21,720
Speaker 1: I completely understand where they're coming from. There is a

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01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:24,600
Speaker 1: general feeling amongst the American people at this time that

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01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 1: the more engagement that you have with what is going

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01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:29,880
Speaker 1: on and with the higher institutions that are supposed to

1574
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:33,560
Speaker 1: educate you, that it is literally poisoning your mind, and

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01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:36,640
Speaker 1: in that spirit, I found something over the weekend that,

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01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 1: while rightfully dunked on, really bothered me. From MSNBC. They

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01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:43,680
Speaker 1: ran an editorial saying, quote, the far right subsession with

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01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:47,800
Speaker 1: fitness is going digital. My first thought is, oh, God, really,

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01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:50,560
Speaker 1: we're going to turn fitness into a cultural war, the

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01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:54,280
Speaker 1: one thing that anyone, regardless of age, gender, socioeconomic status,

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01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 1: they can actually engage in to actually feel better. And

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01:22:57,160 --> 01:22:59,800
Speaker 1: after reading it, it was actually even more sinister than

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01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 1: I thought. They change the headline to a lay criticism.

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Speaker 1: But here's the gist of it from Cynthia Miller Idris.

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Speaker 1: She's a so called professor of polarization and extremism research

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01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:12,000
Speaker 1: at the School of Public Affairs at American University here

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01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 1: in Washington, DC. Miller Idris alleges within her op ed

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01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:19,280
Speaker 1: that fitness has always been a central tenet of fascism,

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01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 1: citing Hitler's minkomf and she notes that far right groups

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01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 1: across the West are encouraging fitness amongst his followers, but

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01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 1: notes that we are seeing an emerging contingent here in

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Speaker 1: the United States. Miller Idris cites a single example of

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Speaker 1: a so called far right militia and Maryland recruiting at

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01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:40,680
Speaker 1: a gym to affirm her thesis. She then notes that

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Speaker 1: since UFC and MMA fighters are dissident against the current

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01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 1: cultural regime, thus the whole sport must be far right.

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Speaker 1: At the end, she then calls for vigilance amongst gym

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01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 1: owners and physical trainers to make sure that they are

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01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:58,320
Speaker 1: spying on clientele, to make sure that they are not

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01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 1: becoming too far right as they lift weights. I tortured

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Speaker 1: you by describing her argument in as much detail as possible,

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01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 1: just so you could really understand the depth of the

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01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:10,880
Speaker 1: stupidity at the heart of this thing, and who is

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01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:14,760
Speaker 1: this person? Well, per my investigation of her biography at

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01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 1: American University, she has testified before Congress several times, has

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01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 1: regularly briefed members of the US intelligence community as well

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01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 1: as the United Nations. Her research is funded by the

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Speaker 1: National Science Foundation, the US Department of Education, the Department

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01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 1: of Homeland Security, and even in the Cabinet of the

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01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:36,560
Speaker 1: United Kingdom. She also happens to be on the International

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01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:40,320
Speaker 1: Advisory Board of the Center for Research on Extremism in Oslo,

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01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:43,800
Speaker 1: which is considered the gold standard for that research. In

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01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:46,599
Speaker 1: other words, this is what qualifies as a so called

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01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:50,240
Speaker 1: extremism expert in the world. Enough for our own government,

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01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:54,600
Speaker 1: charged with tracking threats and protecting us is funding. And

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01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 1: that is precisely why this is total insanity. This is

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01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 1: the culture w glorification of fitness, of something that normal

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01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:05,600
Speaker 1: people do to make themselves feel better, And it is

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01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:08,160
Speaker 1: why people are turning on each other and hate the news,

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01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:10,599
Speaker 1: why they feel as if the cultural elite is working

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01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:13,240
Speaker 1: over time to divide all of us and ruin every

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01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 1: aspect of our lives, even the ones that people cherish

1623
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 1: the most and have nothing to do with politics. It's

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01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:20,559
Speaker 1: no secret than the very last year I've talked about

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01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 1: my own journey into fitness. If you ask, my friends

1626
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 1: are probably sick of hearing about it, that's okay, But

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01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:27,600
Speaker 1: I have a religious zeal of a confort with the

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01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:30,400
Speaker 1: knowledge of how much I was missing when I was sedentary.

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01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 1: This is the last aspect of our society which needs

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01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:37,400
Speaker 1: to be political. It needs to remain a realm welcome

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01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:41,400
Speaker 1: to literally somebody of any aspect of life, the barrier

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01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:44,840
Speaker 1: to entry being only physical and mental capacity, nothing else

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01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 1: holding people back. What I really noticed about this is

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01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:49,759
Speaker 1: how much actually fits within so many of the wars

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01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:51,800
Speaker 1: that we had over our culture and in COVID in

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01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. Think about it your baseline

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01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:56,880
Speaker 1: level of physical fitness. It was never discussed during the

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01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 1: COVID in terms of how it would affect your health outcomes.

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01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:01,960
Speaker 1: The Sea DC and doctor Fauci, we're all loath to

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01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 1: tell you that if you're obese, or even if you're fat,

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01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 1: you're a lot more at risk of getting seriously ill

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01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 1: or dying from COVID than somebody who is not. I mean,

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01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 1: look even further, they seem loath to tell you that

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01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:15,719
Speaker 1: about anything, be it cancer, diabetes, blood disease, alcohol, use anything.

1645
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:18,000
Speaker 1: You are more likely to die or be ill if

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01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 1: you're fat than if you're not. It's as close to

1647
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:23,839
Speaker 1: a miracle drug that exists within science and the medical community.

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01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:26,599
Speaker 1: They refuse to prescribe it with the same zeal as

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01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 1: pills because there is less money to be made and

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01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:31,920
Speaker 1: because it requires more work on the patient's part. The

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01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 1: medical establishment over the last thirty years is reached for

1652
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:36,719
Speaker 1: the pill bottle more than it has reached for something

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01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:40,080
Speaker 1: that actually works, and beyond even the incentives within our

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01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:43,599
Speaker 1: medical establishment, and of course by the cultural elites their

1655
01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:46,439
Speaker 1: fear of being accused of fat shaming for telling basic

1656
01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:50,120
Speaker 1: truths about human biology and physical fitness. What's worse about

1657
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 1: the culture war on fitness is it just polarizes another

1658
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 1: aspect of daily life. Right now, you are literally incapable

1659
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:00,840
Speaker 1: of watching ESPN without having the calllture were thrust into

1660
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 1: your face. You are unable to consume sports as it

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01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:06,120
Speaker 1: is right now. Whether you wear a mask or not

1662
01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:08,600
Speaker 1: has less to do with science and more to do

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01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:11,639
Speaker 1: with social signaling. The same became the case with vaccines,

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01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:14,639
Speaker 1: and as Krystal and I have observed, the ultimate indictment

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01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:17,000
Speaker 1: of the United States is that while many other countries

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01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 1: actually reported a significant rally around the flag outcome and

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01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:23,599
Speaker 1: came together as approach to the pandemic, it was here

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01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:26,120
Speaker 1: in the United States that the level of polarization that

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01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:28,719
Speaker 1: took two years to materialize in the rest of the West,

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01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:31,360
Speaker 1: it was present here within just a few months of

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01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 1: our COVID policy. We do not trust the very basic

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01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 1: goodwill and actions of our neighbors, citizens who share different beliefs,

1673
01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 1: and the way that civil wars and civil strife happen

1674
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:42,479
Speaker 1: are because the conditions of people lives within the same

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01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:46,400
Speaker 1: supposed polity are so at odds that they see no commonality.

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01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:48,640
Speaker 1: And the war against fitness is a part of that.

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01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:51,080
Speaker 1: It is meant to bifurcate the way that we eat,

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01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:53,679
Speaker 1: the way that we work, what we watch, what we consume,

1679
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 1: how we raise our kids, what schools that we go to.

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01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:58,880
Speaker 1: All of those features right now are a class system.

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01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 1: All of them grows part year by year, generation by generation,

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01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:05,280
Speaker 1: until your fellow citizen is barely recognizable to you. So

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01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:07,439
Speaker 1: join me, not in working out to own the libs

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01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 1: or getting fat to own the cons participate in a

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01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:13,599
Speaker 1: national culture of looking after yourself, to live a more

1686
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 1: fulfilling life and be happier so that you can tune

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01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:18,960
Speaker 1: out the msnbcs of the world lives your life, happily,

1688
01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:21,640
Speaker 1: fulfill what you're really meant to because the future of

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01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:24,519
Speaker 1: our country may actually depend on it. I'm that may

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01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 1: be a long winded way, Chrystal. You know, I read

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Speaker 1: this thing, and the more I looked into it, and

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01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:30,639
Speaker 1: I'm like, this lady's funded by the Department of Homelands.

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01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 1: And if you want to hear my reaction to Sager's monologue,

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01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:39,360
Speaker 1: become a premium subscriber Today at breakingpoints dot com. There's

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01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:42,519
Speaker 1: a new HBO Max documentary that happens to feature a

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01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:44,840
Speaker 1: little bit of yours truly, but that's not the reason

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01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 1: to talk about. It's called Gaming Wall Street and it

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01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:51,920
Speaker 1: tracks the entire game Stop situation and tempts to sort

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01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:55,760
Speaker 1: of pushback on Wall Street hedge funds and titans who

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01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:59,080
Speaker 1: normally run everything both on Wall Street and frankly in

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01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 1: the country at large. And we're happy to be joined

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01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 1: now by the producer of that documentary to Bias Demo

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01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 1: joins us now, great to see it's Bias to see

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01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:11,479
Speaker 1: you man, Hey gat to be here. So we've got

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01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:14,719
Speaker 1: a little bit of the trailer from Gaming Wall Street.

1706
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:17,080
Speaker 1: Let's take a look at that. I've never seen it here,

1707
01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 1: a group of stocks that you can no longer add to.

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01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:23,160
Speaker 1: There is a lot of emotion here. All of this

1709
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:27,479
Speaker 1: range definitely the worst point in my life. What can

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01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 1: we do to give a voice to this? The GameStop

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01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:34,960
Speaker 1: frenzy ripped the curtain of how rig hard markets really are.

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01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:39,240
Speaker 1: They forced the broader public to start asking questions that

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01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:43,400
Speaker 1: they've never really asked before. And it's not just one firm,

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01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:47,000
Speaker 1: two firms three firms. It's all the firms that commit

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01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:50,760
Speaker 1: capital and that correct openld investigation. Wall Street has been

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01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:55,880
Speaker 1: making money out of thin air, so that's basically stealing right.

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01:29:56,920 --> 01:30:02,360
Speaker 1: The level of illegal activities just astonishing. The market does

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01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:05,000
Speaker 1: get manipulated in a lot of ways that we don't see.

1719
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:06,880
Speaker 1: But how do you play a game when someone else

1720
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 1: makes the rules? Someone can she and you'll never know.

1721
01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:12,920
Speaker 1: It's intentionally hidden from you that you can't see where

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01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:15,160
Speaker 1: the problems really line. This is the one chance to

1723
01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:21,360
Speaker 1: blow up the desktop. I don't even care who the

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01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 1: whistleblower is. That's why it's important that people come forward.

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01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:32,639
Speaker 1: This is just the beginning. So Tobias, as a filmmaker,

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01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:36,000
Speaker 1: what was it about this story and what happened with

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01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 1: game Stop that you thought would be compelling for an audiences?

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01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:42,920
Speaker 1: A great question. So I started this actually as a

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01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:46,840
Speaker 1: niche documentary about Wall Street bets and this crazy little

1730
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:50,000
Speaker 1: world online where all these people were having their own

1731
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:53,880
Speaker 1: investing journey and just simplifying very very complicated finance topics.

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01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:56,519
Speaker 1: And that was one of my entry points to learning

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01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:59,880
Speaker 1: about investing. My dad as a long activism investor, is

1734
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:03,000
Speaker 1: kind of background, and I always kind of felt stupid,

1735
01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:04,920
Speaker 1: and so finally during the pandemic, I had time, like

1736
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:08,680
Speaker 1: millions of others who just gotten interested in investing. And

1737
01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 1: then you know, I was like, oh, this is this

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01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:12,960
Speaker 1: great online community and suddenly gamestup is one of the

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01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:15,000
Speaker 1: crazy things in Wall Street bets that just blows up

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01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:17,559
Speaker 1: and becomes a number one headline. And so we knew

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01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 1: that we had to do the doc right then. But

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01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:21,920
Speaker 1: as we kept going, we just kept going deeper and

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01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:25,200
Speaker 1: deeper into this wild world of Wall Street. And yeah,

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01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:28,519
Speaker 1: so that was much more compelling stuff once we started

1745
01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:30,639
Speaker 1: actually working on it. Yeah, I think the most important

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01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:32,200
Speaker 1: part about your film is when we actually interview a

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01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:34,000
Speaker 1: lot of the people on Wall Street and how they

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01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:36,320
Speaker 1: saw it as a commentary itself. Can you describe that

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01:31:36,439 --> 01:31:39,200
Speaker 1: for the audience and just like what exactly you found

1750
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:42,920
Speaker 1: at the bottom of that. Yeah. So the deeper we went,

1751
01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:46,040
Speaker 1: the more we started kind of asking these really important questions.

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01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:49,120
Speaker 1: So we partnered up with Buildmore Films, you know, and

1753
01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:52,240
Speaker 1: I as a director, I needed to get real experts

1754
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 1: on the producing team, right. So my producer Tessa, who's

1755
01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:58,200
Speaker 1: been there from day zero. She's a great storyteller and

1756
01:31:58,360 --> 01:32:00,439
Speaker 1: knows a lot about the human stories and sort of

1757
01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:02,960
Speaker 1: big picture components, but we wanted to really make sure

1758
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:06,479
Speaker 1: that we would tell this super accurate and deeply research story.

1759
01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:08,640
Speaker 1: So the team that with Builtmore Films was run by

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01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:12,240
Speaker 1: a hedge fund manager, John Victorn and a securities analyst Bercoons.

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01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:14,439
Speaker 1: So John at Burke they really know what's up on

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01:32:14,479 --> 01:32:17,000
Speaker 1: Wall Street and have all these insider connections, and so

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01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:19,360
Speaker 1: I said, look, there's all these conspiracy theories on Reddit,

1764
01:32:19,479 --> 01:32:22,920
Speaker 1: like this crazy like naked chart selling it's definitely like bullshit, right,

1765
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:25,600
Speaker 1: And they're like, no, it's actually totally real. And the

1766
01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:28,439
Speaker 1: more that we started really digging into it, the more

1767
01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:31,800
Speaker 1: I started realizing how fragile the system is and how

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01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:34,080
Speaker 1: easy it is for certain players, like you said, the

1769
01:32:34,120 --> 01:32:36,680
Speaker 1: Titans that usually run the show, how easy it is

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01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:38,840
Speaker 1: for them to actually abuse the rules and the system

1771
01:32:38,920 --> 01:32:42,080
Speaker 1: that they've sort of helped construct. And so that was

1772
01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:44,360
Speaker 1: one of the biggest takeaways is that some of these

1773
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:47,040
Speaker 1: things are so far beyond the surface that you really

1774
01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:48,560
Speaker 1: have to go dig. You have to expose it, and

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01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:50,560
Speaker 1: then you have to kind of, you know, put the

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01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:53,280
Speaker 1: responsibility on the regulators and the larger forces to be

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01:32:53,439 --> 01:32:56,800
Speaker 1: to actually correct this. Yeah. I mean that's what was

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01:32:56,920 --> 01:33:00,920
Speaker 1: so compelling, both at the time watching this all unfold

1779
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:05,000
Speaker 1: and also watching your documentary, is you had this moment

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01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:07,880
Speaker 1: where it seemed like it was actually working, Like you

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01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:10,679
Speaker 1: had this sort of like mass distributed movement of people

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01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:13,719
Speaker 1: who are like, screw you, you all rig the system

1783
01:33:13,880 --> 01:33:17,040
Speaker 1: all the time. We're gonna make this play. We're in it,

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01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:19,759
Speaker 1: We're doing it. It's happening. The price of game Stop,

1785
01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:22,960
Speaker 1: which is like you know, not really poised for great

1786
01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:25,320
Speaker 1: success in the future, probably continues to go up and

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01:33:25,439 --> 01:33:28,720
Speaker 1: up and up. That's probably gonna be controversial of and

1788
01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:31,439
Speaker 1: up and up, right, not exactly what you would think

1789
01:33:31,640 --> 01:33:33,800
Speaker 1: is like the stock of the future. Let's just put

1790
01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:37,479
Speaker 1: it that way. And then what happens Robinhood app which

1791
01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:40,080
Speaker 1: is what has enabled all these retail investors to be

1792
01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:42,000
Speaker 1: able to sort of get in the game and make

1793
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:46,120
Speaker 1: these trades. They've got relationships with these hedge funds, and

1794
01:33:46,280 --> 01:33:50,040
Speaker 1: they decide that they're going to stop allowing people to

1795
01:33:50,240 --> 01:33:54,920
Speaker 1: buy just this handful of sort of meme stocks. Right,

1796
01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:57,600
Speaker 1: you're still allowed to sell them, so you're allowed to

1797
01:33:57,680 --> 01:34:00,000
Speaker 1: put downward pressure on the price, but you're not allowed

1798
01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:03,680
Speaker 1: to buy them anymore, and frankly, it worked. Part of

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01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:07,920
Speaker 1: what's heartbreaking about the film is that you interview some

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Speaker 1: of the people who really, you know, they lost money

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01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:14,320
Speaker 1: that was significant to them. And these were oftentimes people

1802
01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:17,559
Speaker 1: who'd already been fucked over by our financial system during

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01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:21,200
Speaker 1: the housing crisis, who had lost homes or lived through

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01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:24,960
Speaker 1: their parents losing their homes and being foreclosed on. And

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01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:28,400
Speaker 1: here they thought, this is one little way to you know,

1806
01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:31,120
Speaker 1: push back on this rigg system and say screw you

1807
01:34:31,240 --> 01:34:33,200
Speaker 1: to Wall Street. And in the end, the big guys

1808
01:34:33,240 --> 01:34:37,160
Speaker 1: still won. Yeah. This was one of the interesting takeaways,

1809
01:34:37,240 --> 01:34:40,200
Speaker 1: right that as we go deeper into the story, you

1810
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:42,640
Speaker 1: have the brokers like Robinhood that shut down, right, and

1811
01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:44,439
Speaker 1: as we feel back the dollayies, like why did they

1812
01:34:44,439 --> 01:34:46,960
Speaker 1: shut down? Right? There's a bunch of different possibilities what

1813
01:34:47,080 --> 01:34:50,120
Speaker 1: might have also happened, right, these additional interests, But the

1814
01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:53,559
Speaker 1: primary thing was really the DTCC sort of central plumbing

1815
01:34:53,640 --> 01:34:56,240
Speaker 1: system saying look, you gotta pay three billion dollars. But

1816
01:34:56,600 --> 01:34:58,800
Speaker 1: they knew ahead of time that Robinhood would not have

1817
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:01,760
Speaker 1: that money. They could the predict what the situation was

1818
01:35:01,800 --> 01:35:04,240
Speaker 1: going to be, and there's a responsible way to say, hey,

1819
01:35:04,280 --> 01:35:06,160
Speaker 1: we have a really big problem in the market. Let's

1820
01:35:06,200 --> 01:35:08,040
Speaker 1: talk with the SEC. Let's talk with the markets and

1821
01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:10,760
Speaker 1: figure out what's going on. But instead the DTCC sort

1822
01:35:10,760 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 1: of said, you're on your own, let's just see what happens.

1823
01:35:13,479 --> 01:35:16,240
Speaker 1: And I think that's one of these things in the system, right,

1824
01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:18,920
Speaker 1: Who are these different players. The DTCC is a privately

1825
01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:23,000
Speaker 1: owned corporation. It runs the entire system. There's very little

1826
01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:25,920
Speaker 1: accounting and transparency there to the outside world. And we

1827
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:28,080
Speaker 1: talked to Harvey Pitt, former chairman of the SEC, and

1828
01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:31,080
Speaker 1: one of his sort of striking quotes is, you know,

1829
01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:34,880
Speaker 1: the DTCC is so powerful and so centralized, and there's

1830
01:35:34,920 --> 01:35:37,519
Speaker 1: so little insight. And he used to run the SEC,

1831
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:41,080
Speaker 1: the regulator himself, right, And so there's there's a lot

1832
01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:43,360
Speaker 1: of pieces to the system that need reform. That's one

1833
01:35:43,400 --> 01:35:45,720
Speaker 1: of the sort of biggest, the biggest takeaways. And then

1834
01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:48,800
Speaker 1: the individual people who got screwed really by the buy

1835
01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:52,519
Speaker 1: button being shut off. It helped certain players that this

1836
01:35:52,640 --> 01:35:54,960
Speaker 1: by button was off, right, There were certain players like

1837
01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:59,040
Speaker 1: Citadel that were very likely exposed very strongly to the

1838
01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:04,040
Speaker 1: short side and possibly survived only because of this shutdown,

1839
01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:07,360
Speaker 1: and that part of the story has never been told,

1840
01:36:07,439 --> 01:36:10,320
Speaker 1: has never been properly investigated. Right, the SEC report did

1841
01:36:10,479 --> 01:36:13,519
Speaker 1: never go into that, And so with the documentary we

1842
01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:15,719
Speaker 1: went into all of these questions. We said, what happened

1843
01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:18,400
Speaker 1: to Melvin Capital's position? Right, they got out of the stock,

1844
01:36:18,439 --> 01:36:21,240
Speaker 1: But what does this really mean? And so there's all

1845
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:24,680
Speaker 1: these fascinating stories of what Melvin did with their with

1846
01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:28,200
Speaker 1: their position, what happened at Citadelan's. We tried to try

1847
01:36:28,240 --> 01:36:29,960
Speaker 1: to light on all of that. Yeah, I think that's

1848
01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:32,200
Speaker 1: what is the most important thing, at least I learned.

1849
01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:34,080
Speaker 1: I think it was an opening for a lot of people,

1850
01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:35,880
Speaker 1: which I always try to emphasize. So I was like, look,

1851
01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:38,360
Speaker 1: it's free to trade, but that just means that you're

1852
01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:40,760
Speaker 1: not the customer, you are the product, and people are

1853
01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:43,479
Speaker 1: up selling in front running your trades. We're big guys,

1854
01:36:43,479 --> 01:36:45,439
Speaker 1: and they're making a whole lot more money than you

1855
01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:47,840
Speaker 1: actually are. So what do you think the takeaway was

1856
01:36:47,960 --> 01:36:51,040
Speaker 1: for the average redditor Wall Street? You know, kind of

1857
01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:53,080
Speaker 1: Wall Street bets person. I've been a redditor for like,

1858
01:36:53,280 --> 01:36:55,680
Speaker 1: you know, twelve years or something like that. It was

1859
01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:58,120
Speaker 1: kind of natural for me to kind of That's why

1860
01:36:58,120 --> 01:37:00,320
Speaker 1: I saw this bubbling up early, I think, But I'm

1861
01:37:00,360 --> 01:37:02,840
Speaker 1: curious what the feeling in the takeaway was for a

1862
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:04,519
Speaker 1: lot of those people who you talk to as well.

1863
01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:07,960
Speaker 1: For many of them, it was I think their first

1864
01:37:08,120 --> 01:37:12,040
Speaker 1: real experience at seeing market structure in play. And I

1865
01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:14,080
Speaker 1: think for many people on Wall Street it was that

1866
01:37:14,200 --> 01:37:16,360
Speaker 1: experience as well. Right, you can work on Wall Street

1867
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:19,400
Speaker 1: for twenty years, nobody's ever seen that, right, Like John

1868
01:37:19,439 --> 01:37:21,439
Speaker 1: says in the documentary, you know, he's never seen a

1869
01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:24,080
Speaker 1: basket of stocks just being taken away on the You

1870
01:37:24,160 --> 01:37:26,280
Speaker 1: can no longer add to that position. And I think

1871
01:37:26,400 --> 01:37:28,760
Speaker 1: for many people you started seeing and I think Denis

1872
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:30,920
Speaker 1: Keller puts this grade right. It like rips the curtain

1873
01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:33,200
Speaker 1: off the system, and it shows you all the dirty

1874
01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:36,000
Speaker 1: gears and wheels in the back and who is making

1875
01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:40,360
Speaker 1: decisions and why. And I think for many people it

1876
01:37:40,520 --> 01:37:43,160
Speaker 1: was an incredibly frustrating experience. But if we take one

1877
01:37:43,200 --> 01:37:46,439
Speaker 1: step further back, I think what it truly represented was

1878
01:37:46,479 --> 01:37:48,760
Speaker 1: a show of power and a show of force by

1879
01:37:48,880 --> 01:37:51,360
Speaker 1: the retail crowd, right by the individual people who said

1880
01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:53,240
Speaker 1: I will stand up against the system that screwed me

1881
01:37:53,320 --> 01:37:56,120
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, and a system that pretends or

1882
01:37:56,200 --> 01:37:59,200
Speaker 1: believes that they're all powerful. But in this one instance,

1883
01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:01,960
Speaker 1: we put this time bit of pressure on this one

1884
01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:05,320
Speaker 1: little stock or this group of stocks AMCG and ME

1885
01:38:05,439 --> 01:38:09,040
Speaker 1: and so on, and suddenly the entire market goes bananas.

1886
01:38:09,400 --> 01:38:11,040
Speaker 1: And I think that was ridiculed by a lot of

1887
01:38:11,160 --> 01:38:13,640
Speaker 1: the you know, larger media outlets. Oh there's just a

1888
01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:16,320
Speaker 1: bunch of crazy people online. This was the first instance

1889
01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:19,559
Speaker 1: where the system really saw, hey, we can't screw around

1890
01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:21,719
Speaker 1: with those people, right like, these people will have power,

1891
01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:24,479
Speaker 1: and that power is only going to increase from here

1892
01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:26,559
Speaker 1: on out Right. It's all about the literacy. The more

1893
01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:28,080
Speaker 1: did you know about the system, the more did you

1894
01:38:28,160 --> 01:38:29,760
Speaker 1: know how to interact with the system, the more you

1895
01:38:29,800 --> 01:38:32,720
Speaker 1: can hold it accountable. And this, in a really strange way,

1896
01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:35,120
Speaker 1: was a way to hold Wall Street accountable and say, hey,

1897
01:38:35,439 --> 01:38:37,599
Speaker 1: don't screw around with us one more time, because we're

1898
01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:40,680
Speaker 1: here and we kind of know how your system works. Now. Yeah, Well,

1899
01:38:40,720 --> 01:38:42,559
Speaker 1: there were and there were people on Wall Street who

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01:38:42,600 --> 01:38:46,360
Speaker 1: did take losses because of their short position. So it's

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Speaker 1: not like it worked out all rosy for them, but

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Speaker 1: ultimately they were in a position to absorb those losses.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's ultimately the sort of the

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01:38:55,360 --> 01:38:58,880
Speaker 1: moral of the story or what was revealed is there's

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Speaker 1: all this mythology year around, like, oh, it's the free

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Speaker 1: market and these stock values and they just represent like

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Speaker 1: the intrinsic value of this company. That's all bullshit, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's all fake. It's very much rigged and manipulated.

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Speaker 1: But the moment that it was like regular people who

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Speaker 1: tried to get in on the game, well they had

1911
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Speaker 1: to bring the hammer down and make sure that you

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Speaker 1: can never ever have that happen. So ultimately it was

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Speaker 1: all extraordinarily revealing of how things actually work. Absolutely yeah.

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Speaker 1: And it showed I think the weaknesses in the system, right,

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Speaker 1: and the biggest loopholes. And I think that's all what

1916
01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:38,839
Speaker 1: this is about. It's all about loopholes and exploiting loopholes.

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Speaker 1: The short selling mechanism is very easy to abuse by

1918
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Speaker 1: the largest players in the world, right. And I think

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Speaker 1: one of the ironic things is a lot of people

1920
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Speaker 1: got really culed for saying, oh, you know, well stick

1921
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Speaker 1: it to the hedge funds because of two thousand and eight,

1922
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Speaker 1: And then people said, well, it wasn't the hedge funds

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight. It was all the large

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Speaker 1: investment banks. But the real joke of the story is

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Speaker 1: that this practice of naked short selling and any of

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Speaker 1: the other ways of abusing the short selling mechanism actually

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Speaker 1: doesn't happen at the short seller or the hedge fund.

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Speaker 1: It happens earlier at the prime broker, which just happens

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Speaker 1: to be all the largest investment banks in the world. Right,

1930
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Speaker 1: And so this basket of six companies that basically runs

1931
01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:18,080
Speaker 1: the US financial markets, they are yet again in a

1932
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Speaker 1: way indirectly at fault for some of these things that

1933
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Speaker 1: happened and have not been held accountable properly. Right. They

1934
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Speaker 1: have not been held accountable in two thousand eight properly.

1935
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Speaker 1: They still have not been held accountable now. And one

1936
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Speaker 1: of the things that I think is really important from

1937
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Speaker 1: a sort of national security level is that a market

1938
01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:35,880
Speaker 1: needs to be trustworthy, right, And so if the main

1939
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Speaker 1: reputation of the U stock market is that it's a

1940
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Speaker 1: raged system, a lot of regulator should scratch their head

1941
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Speaker 1: and be like, Hey, we're really got to do something,

1942
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Speaker 1: and we're going to show some signal to the greater public. Hey,

1943
01:40:46,280 --> 01:40:48,280
Speaker 1: we will actually go after those people, right, And sometimes

1944
01:40:48,360 --> 01:40:50,960
Speaker 1: it's not the sec Sometimes it's a DOJ but it's

1945
01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:53,160
Speaker 1: important that there needs to be a new system of

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Speaker 1: checks and balances on Wall Street that is currently not

1947
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Speaker 1: really there, which is namely jail time for individual people. Right,

1948
01:40:58,920 --> 01:41:01,800
Speaker 1: if you create a system, if you naked short sell,

1949
01:41:01,880 --> 01:41:04,960
Speaker 1: if you used the mechanisms in a way that is

1950
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Speaker 1: not intended and it is illicitly extracting profits from the system,

1951
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Speaker 1: you should face at least the consequences to your own

1952
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Speaker 1: personal liberty. Yeah. I think that's really well said. Really

1953
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Speaker 1: enjoyed the film. I encourage everybody to go and watch it.

1954
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Speaker 1: We really appreciate you joining us. Man. Yeah, great to

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Speaker 1: have you, Tobias, thank you, thanks for having me absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for watching. We really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: It was cool to be featured in that. I was

1958
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Speaker 1: telling him for We got a text message like months

1959
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Speaker 1: ago and be like, hey, do you guys know you

1960
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Speaker 1: were in this movie. I was like, what are you

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Speaker 1: talking about? So that was kind of cool in order

1962
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Speaker 1: to have that exposure. Thank you all though, to those

1963
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Speaker 1: of you who support the show, you know, in terms

1964
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Speaker 1: of our coverage and why we need you, that Trump

1965
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Speaker 1: Block is a perfect example. We are not able to

1966
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Speaker 1: cover the news in the way that it properly should

1967
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Speaker 1: be covered. We should have been to be able to

1968
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Speaker 1: play a clip for everyone of Trump from the rally

1969
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Speaker 1: in order to give people a real feel of it.

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Speaker 1: But because we have seen now multiple YouTube channels get

1971
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Speaker 1: taken down for accurately reporting the news, playing a clip

1972
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Speaker 1: and then describing those comments in context, you have no

1973
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Speaker 1: idea when these content policies are going to come for you,

1974
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Speaker 1: and in the event that they do, we rely on

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Speaker 1: you one. It's a perilous time, you know, as we've

1976
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Speaker 1: said previously, in order to cover the news properly, and

1977
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Speaker 1: especially with this Russia hysteria, So thank you all so much.

1978
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Speaker 1: Just give us that peace of mind. It really just

1979
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Speaker 1: means a lot. Yeah, it means the world. Absolutely. We

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Speaker 1: love you guys, and we'll see you back here tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow