1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: I'm Anny, I'm Noah, and this is no such thing. 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: The show where we settle our dumb arguments and yours 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: by actually doing the research. Today's episode is a mailbag episode. 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 2: Will we're talking about black coffee, movie theater etiquette and more. 5 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 3: I No, there's no no such thing, no such thing such, thank, thank. 6 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 2: Thank. 7 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: Before we dip into the mail bag, we wanted to 8 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: quickly discuss a topic that we've seen online a lot 9 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: these days. 10 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 4: Uh. 11 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: It has to do with a movie theater etiquette, and 12 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: specifically it has to do with taking photos of the 13 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: screen during the movie. What are your guys' thoughts. 14 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 4: There's no there is literally no good reason to do this. 15 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 4: There's zero, even if sorry, even if you're like doing 16 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 4: your best with your brightness down and trying to be 17 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 4: so discreet, no reason. 18 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 2: I think it's yeah, I agree, I think it's crazy. 19 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 2: I think it just shows that, like, you know, the 20 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 2: people who are doing this, y'all don't go to the 21 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: movies often. 22 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 5: You're not you're not real cinephiles like. 23 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 2: Us, because a real movie head once you get into 24 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:25,199 Speaker 2: that thing, once the movie starts, you putting your phone away, 25 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: D and D silent, the whole reason. I'm at the 26 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 2: movie theater and so I don't have to be on 27 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 2: my phone exactly. If it's an emergency, step yass outside 28 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 2: the theater. Take the caller text. We are here to 29 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 2: remove ourselves from the outside world. If you want to 30 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 2: take pictures of your screen, you could do that at home. 31 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 2: I do it. I watch Love Island. That take pictures 32 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: of it's Love Island. I'm at home. Sure am allowed 33 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: to be on my phone? We are taking pictures of 34 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 2: the screen at a movie theater recording it? Like, what 35 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 2: are we doing boot legs again? 36 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 4: What it gets me is the famous thing about movies, 37 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 4: more than any other medium. 38 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 5: Is that the movie is the same. 39 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 4: Yes, so you can find a screenshot of that scene. Yes, 40 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 4: you can find a poster, and even at the theater, 41 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 4: there's other things about the movie. You can take a 42 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 4: photo of the marquee, there's a thing before the door, 43 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 4: there's posters. It's like, there's a million other things to 44 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 4: take a photo if you must document it. 45 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 5: Right there. 46 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 4: The movie is the same, So like you're not You're 47 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 4: you're not getting an original photo, You're getting a horribly lit. 48 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 3: Version of this. 49 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 4: First of all, you think Christopher Nolan is happy with 50 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 4: this photo disgusting. 51 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 2: No, do what we do? You know when we go 52 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 2: see Sonic. 53 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, every couple of years we go see Sonic. 54 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 2: We stand outside of the movie theater and we take 55 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,119 Speaker 2: a group photo of the poster of us in front 56 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: of the poster. Isn't that such a wow? 57 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 5: It's nice. 58 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 2: That's a beautiful thing to look at. 59 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 5: Now some dirty, weird things. Lord knows what angle you're 60 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 5: at here. 61 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 2: You know, somebody's head is in front of me. 62 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 5: It's horrible. 63 00:02:56,280 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: In the movie theater. Be original and for who? Yeah, 64 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 2: who is this for? Yeah? 65 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 5: Well, no one's impressed by this. Oh, you went to 66 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 5: a movie. 67 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 3: So I agree with both of them. 68 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: I agree with both of you, even if if I 69 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: would go so far as to support policies at movie 70 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: theaters to where you have to put your phone in 71 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: the little zip. Oh yeah, so that we don't we're 72 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: not all agreeing on this. I'll play Devil's advocate a 73 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: little bit here, just to mix it up. So I personally, 74 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: I don't mind. When it's the very beginning of the 75 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: movie the title card comes up. We're now in a 76 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: society where like people, you know, I don't think anyone's 77 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: trying to show you a unique frame that's only in 78 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: their screening. I think they're trying to tell you that 79 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: they're at the movies, which we're. 80 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 3: A little bit older. That's lame to us. 81 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: It's kind of like when people would post photos of 82 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: their meals that they were eating. 83 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 3: It's just not interesting. 84 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: But if I'm like in the theater it's the first 85 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: title card, someone's like sneaking a pick. That has to 86 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: be that's important. They have to be sneaking a pick, 87 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: don't be Yeah, I don't mind that so much. And 88 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: in fact, if I was going to see a very 89 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: dumb movie like like a King Kong or something like that, 90 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: I've done that. I think on a few occasions to 91 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: be to post it and be like, look at this 92 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: stupid thing I'm doing. But of course I think like 93 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: if it's a serious movie or anything where that you 94 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: want to pay attention to or uh, you know you got, 95 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: you can't just be so abrasive about it. I sometimes 96 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: see people like texting full conversations. I was at I 97 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: went to go see Chicago on Broadway recently, there's a 98 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: couple in front of me texting each other, and that 99 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: blew my mind. It's like, what the fuck did you 100 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: spend this money for your attor just not experiencing. 101 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 5: Well, that's what's crazy is again we're moving away from 102 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 5: the photo thing. 103 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 4: But like I'll be at a at a screening of 104 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 4: something and I'll see someone by themselves. 105 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 5: Sitting scrolling their phone. 106 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 4: It's like, why do you you know when it's not 107 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 4: like it's not like you got dragged your partner or something, 108 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,559 Speaker 4: and now you're in this boring ass movie, which again 109 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 4: you still shouldn't do that, but it's like, all right, 110 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 4: I get it. You don't want to be here, but 111 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 4: you have to be go. 112 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 5: To the lot, Like this is that metrograph. There's a 113 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 5: bar there in a restaurant. You can go sit out there. 114 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 5: It's a lot more comfortable the photo thing. I disagree 115 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 5: with it, but I understand it. 116 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, sitting there on your phone scroll and 117 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 4: like it's not like, oh I need to fire off 118 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 4: a text. 119 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 5: Yeah maybe I come away from work early. Yeah yeah, 120 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 5: let me check my stug. 121 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,119 Speaker 4: Oh I need to respond to this thing, say okay, whatever. 122 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 4: I understand why someone might need to do that. I 123 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 4: think it's dumb and it's planning on your part, but 124 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 4: like you're just scrolling Instagram in the like that just 125 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 4: means your brain is your brain. 126 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 5: Is literally broken. 127 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,799 Speaker 1: The movie ends up being like Subway Runners or whatever 128 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: the TikTok, where like you have to have. 129 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 3: Two things happening at the same time. 130 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 5: It's sad. It makes me sad. 131 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 2: Then you just don't go to the like finally that 132 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 2: person don't go to. 133 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: It's crazy too because most people don't have like a 134 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: regal pass situation like us movies. 135 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 2: You're expensive. 136 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: They're dropping twenty thirty bucks to be there and be 137 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: on their phones, which is crazy. But yeah, I think 138 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: like if I'm at the Regal Essex watching Transformers or something, 139 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: I don't mind that much. If people are like getting 140 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: their picks off. 141 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 2: Well yeah, I think that's what you know, with all 142 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: any kid stuff, It's like it depends on what. 143 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 5: How mad am I going to get about this? 144 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 4: You know, we saw Sonic three, for example, there was 145 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 4: some dad with a bunch of kids. 146 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, he doesn't want to be there. 147 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like and listen, it's a kid's movie. I 148 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 4: shouldn't be there. 149 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a grown ass. 150 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 5: And then like the kids are running around. Yeah, that's 151 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 5: fine with me. Obviously they're kids. 152 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're talking, and the dad. 153 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 4: Was there watching Premier League on his phone, which, like, 154 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 4: I think that's kind of crazy, Like it's nuts. 155 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 5: I don't think you should do that. 156 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 4: But it was like, also, like, what am I going 157 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 4: to do go confront this dad about watching Premier League 158 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 4: during Sonic three? 159 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 2: It's like, No, I have an issue with this, and 160 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: with a lot of things, but I think this is 161 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 2: the movie example of it of people just like the 162 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 2: idea of doing the thing they like, projecting that they're 163 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,679 Speaker 2: at the thing that they're doing the thing, without actually 164 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 2: enjoying or investing any amount of energy into the thing 165 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 2: that they're doing. Like, this is the thing that drives 166 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 2: me crazy when people go to concerts. I've been in 167 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 2: concerts where you're spending like one hundred bucks to get 168 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 2: in the door. Yeah, and then they sit there and 169 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 2: talk the entire time while the not even while the 170 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 2: opener is there, while the person who you paid to 171 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 2: see perform is performing. Yeah, you're talking. 172 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: People would rather it be the case that their friends 173 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: know that they're at a show versus actually want to 174 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: be at the show. Yes, it's like I'm buying this 175 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: ticket as to communicate something socially yes to people, versus 176 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: wanting to listen to. 177 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 2: They don't actually care himself. 178 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and I know we sound like extremely old men, 179 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: but that's I. 180 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 4: Mean, seeing people arguing about this online and it'll be like, 181 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 4: you know, there'll be some zoomers saying like, oh, like 182 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 4: we're trying to document the thing. 183 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 5: It's like you're not documented anything. 184 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 4: It's like it's like seeing baby Girl. It's like, again, 185 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 4: clearly you probably aren't connecting with the movie that much 186 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 4: if you're taking a photo of it, even if it's 187 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 4: at the beginning. It's like, just just sit there, just 188 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 4: watch the thing. 189 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 3: Especially today. 190 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: I mean this kind of goes back to the episode 191 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: we did about banning phones. It's like today we're on 192 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,679 Speaker 1: our phones all day. You can't take two hours less 193 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: than that often just sit. 194 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 2: There, screenshot your letterbox exactly. 195 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 4: That's well, that's more interesting because at least then I 196 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 4: get an opinion with. 197 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 3: It, information from it. 198 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like like this blur. 199 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 4: I've never been like seeing someone post a story of 200 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 4: a theater shot and thought it enhanced anything that they 201 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 4: I wouldn't have gone from if they said I just 202 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 4: saw this movie yep, Like it opens a conversation of like, oh, 203 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 4: what do you think it's the same thing. Yeah. 204 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: I even like when people will post a screenshot of 205 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: them like picking their seats, like sometimes that you see 206 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: the name of the movie at the top. All right, 207 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,479 Speaker 1: this person's going there. That's what they really want to communicate. 208 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: But they're also not disrupting their actual cinema goers by 209 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: taking their bride ass phone out and taking a picture 210 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: of the screen. Now, it's one thing to like do 211 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: that sometimes as like a Twitter bit. It's a whole 212 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: other thing for these people to be arguing that you 213 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: should be allowed to or like that it's it should 214 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: be socially acceptable. 215 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, if you do it, if you do it whatever. 216 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 4: That's one thing I don't really see how you can 217 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 4: actually argue that it's. 218 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 2: A good. 219 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 3: People have been trying, which is listen. 220 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 4: If any listeners out there do this or want to 221 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 4: defend this, please please send me a detailed email with 222 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 4: your what's actually going through your head and why this 223 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 4: couldn't be better served by a screenshot or something else. 224 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 5: You know what. 225 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: I think it probably proliferated during like the rise of 226 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: snapchat or those be real kind of apps where it's like, like, 227 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: we have to know what you're doing every moment of 228 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: your day. 229 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 5: It's a sad state of affairs. 230 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, but in the effort of not ranting about this 231 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: for another hour, yeah, well kind of a So what 232 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: are some emails we've been getting? 233 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, let's let's move on. 234 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: I'm worked up, all right. 235 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 5: So this is a lighter one is from our listener, Jennifer. 236 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 5: Thank you, Jennifer. 237 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 4: Deceptively simple, but this came up between me and my husband, 238 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 4: and we have since learned it can cause massive and 239 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 4: passionate divides in any group of people. You ask it 240 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 4: to Wow, all right, strap in. You walk into a 241 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 4: coffee shop and order a coffee one sugar, no milk. 242 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 4: Is this a black coffee? In other words, does black 243 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 4: refer to the color, in which case yes, or is 244 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 4: this more of a metaphysical descriptor in which black means pure, untouched, undiluted, 245 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 4: in which case no. In this case, I can tell 246 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 4: you that there is a correct answer, and it is 247 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 4: what I believe, whereas my husband's belief is wrong. And 248 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 4: now Jennifer and I checked the original email, she'd not 249 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 4: say which one which I like is I don't want 250 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 4: to be biased because I obviously agree with all my listeners. 251 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 2: I don't drink coffee, but I think that what first 252 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 2: of all, are people putting when you get coffee, they're 253 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 2: putting sugar in it for you? 254 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 4: Well, usually sometimes I guess a drive through situation, yeah, okay, 255 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 4: like goose scenarios where people are doing the sugars and creams. 256 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 4: You know, you go to McDonald's and you order coffee, 257 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 4: they ask how many creamy sugars or like, I'll say like, 258 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 4: and you do need to be intentional because if you 259 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 4: go to I remember going to Duncan asking just for 260 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 4: a small coffee or something, and they the default is 261 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 4: with sugar and cream for hot coffee. And I was 262 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 4: pretty deserved once when that happened, because I would assume 263 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,719 Speaker 4: default is just yeah, you got to act if it's 264 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 4: for a hot coffee. But yeah, but I think maybe 265 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 4: Duncan probably enough people getting coffee there wanted that. 266 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 3: I'm a newcomer to coffee. 267 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 2: I haven't. 268 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: I've only been drinking coffee for like maybe a year now, 269 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: but I've never described it as black. What I'll do 270 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: at a coffee shops, I'll just bet can I have 271 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: a drip with X Y and Z in it, So 272 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: I've never thought about it. 273 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 3: But like when you're getting. 274 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 4: We're feedting with X, Y and Z, then you wouldn't 275 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 4: be ordering a black coffee, right. 276 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: But when Mia gets she only gets quote unquote black. 277 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: But she'll just say, can I have a drip? 278 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 3: Maybe English thing? 279 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:19,719 Speaker 2: But does she put what you what do you get 280 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 2: in your coffee? 281 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: Like usually oat milk? 282 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 5: We're not not even I'm a black coffee. 283 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 4: Well I'm a I'm a drinker of black coffee. 284 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 3: I'm a black. 285 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: But the reason I bring that up is like I've 286 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: never thought about describing it as that. 287 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 2: I gotta. 288 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: I feel for her husband, assuming he's the one that 289 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: thinks it's the color black, so I'm gonna call it 290 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: a black coffee. I feel for him, But he's wrong 291 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: because I think everyone refers to black as like, don't 292 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 1: do anything to it. 293 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 2: I agree with Yeah, I think black is pure. Just 294 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 2: when I get my tea, I think of it. I 295 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 2: don't say black, but I think if it's a black, 296 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 2: I don't get no sugar, I don't get no milk. 297 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 2: Just just give me the thing. 298 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think about it even literally when you go 299 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: to order it. Why would you say a black coffee 300 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: with sugar when you could just say a coffee with sugar. 301 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 4: The black is, of course referring in some ways to 302 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 4: the color, but a black coffee should be understood to 303 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 4: be just the coffee. 304 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 3: One real quick thing. 305 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: I also, I don't hear like, no one really says 306 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: black unless you're like being served, like at a diner. 307 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, he could hold them off from bringing over the 308 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 4: tray of the creams and sugars. 309 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: And then that's in that instance it's useful for the establishment. 310 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 2: Well, do people use it as a quick way to 311 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 2: say no milk? 312 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 4: I would say sugar is in there too, like if 313 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 4: you're ordering black coffee, yeah, but milk is definitely more 314 00:13:58,040 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 4: disturbing to it. 315 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. But I'm saying because if I'm ordering, you know, 316 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 2: if I'm make believe me, ordering a coffee, if I'm saying, hey, 317 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 2: give me a black coffee with two sugars, then it's like, 318 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 2: I don't want milk in that coffee. Don't ask me 319 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 2: what type of milk I want, just put two sugars. 320 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 2: So now I'm kind of going in the other direction. 321 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 2: Although I think black is nothing. 322 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: But if you said to the barista, give me a 323 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: coffee with two sugars. You're saving yourself a millisecond. 324 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 5: They might then be. 325 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 2: Milk. That's what I'm asking. 326 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 5: It is a shortcut. 327 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 4: So I mean, I think there's a case to be made. 328 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 4: I think though, if we're defining terms, there's no way 329 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 4: I can really say, you know, when we drill down 330 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 4: to it, the black coffee, in essence is just the coffee. 331 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. Do we have any baris differends? 332 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 4: I used to be a barista, okay you Yeah, Well, 333 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 4: if if someone asked a black coffee, I wouldn't be like, 334 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 4: do you want sugar or. 335 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 5: Anything in that? 336 00:14:58,200 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: Okay? You would assume that may nothing. 337 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 4: No, And I mean the coffee shop I worked out 338 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 4: was you got your own sugars, okay, So that takes 339 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 4: off my head. 340 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 2: That's just different kind. 341 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 3: Of depends on the ven. 342 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 4: So, I mean, I think it's like, I don't blame 343 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 4: the server for if they're in charge of adding the sugars. 344 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 4: They're just being They're trying to be helpful by asking 345 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 4: these things. I would never assume theyre this person is 346 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 4: probably gonna want this. But it's more like I'm making 347 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 4: I'm saying, hey, if you don't need anything, it's gonna 348 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 4: be right over there. 349 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 2: My expectations of a barista if I said I went 350 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 2: on black coffee would be they would not put anything 351 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 2: in it. 352 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 4: Or like yeah, or think like you're putting in a 353 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 4: bagel order you know you're on an app or whatever 354 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 4: you put in. 355 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 5: All right, here's my bagel, cream cheese, locks. 356 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 4: I'm gonna get a coffee if I don't put in 357 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 4: the notes add cream and sugar, yep, or I put 358 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 4: in the notes black. 359 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not expecting. 360 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 4: Sugar anywhere near that coffee, whether in it or on 361 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 4: the side or no. 362 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 5: You know, so, yeah, that's true. 363 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds like all three of us are 364 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: not necessarily mad at mister husband's stance, but. 365 00:15:59,080 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 2: Well, we don't know. 366 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're assuming. I'm pretty Jennifer, I don't know where 367 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 5: you stand. 368 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: I'm pretty comfortable with the idea that she said she 369 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: thinks black coffee has nothing in it because of the 370 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: way she described that stance. But I think I'm not 371 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: necessarily mad at the person who thinks that it's that 372 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: you can have sugar coffee. But I don't agree with them. 373 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 2: I agree with that, And I think your expectations should 374 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 2: be you're not going to get anything with it. So 375 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 2: if you're okay with that, then you can call it 376 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it. 377 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, I'm not going to. 378 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 3: Lose You order black coffee at a diner. 379 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: You shouldn't be mad at them if they don't bring sugar. 380 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 4: Yes, we'll put a poll in the newsletter for this one. 381 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 5: Please voice voice your concerns. 382 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 4: And Jennifer, if you hear this, please follow up and 383 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 4: let us know where you stand so we can put 384 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 4: this one to bed. 385 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 3: Even though I already know where you. 386 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 5: Man, he seems to know. 387 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 4: And if your husband knows that he thoughts to send in, 388 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 4: please give him let him and. 389 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 3: For everyone else listening. 390 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: And that's the perfect kind of question for the We're 391 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: going to be doing these mailbag episodes, you know, not 392 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 1: that often, but every now and then. And that's a 393 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,239 Speaker 1: great question. That's that seems like the plot of a 394 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: Curb your Enthusiasm episode. 395 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, for sure. 396 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 5: Up next, we have a question from Cat and this. 397 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 2: One well I feel like these next two kind of 398 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 2: oh yeah to area outside clothes. 399 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, so this is kind of a follow up or 400 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 4: attachment to our episode on Outside Clothes, which we'll link 401 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 4: as well if you missed it. 402 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 5: I think that's one of our best episodes. O. 403 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 4: Top here, yeah, top tier of the many episodes you've 404 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 4: put out of the fourteen, top five, fifteen or sixty? 405 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:50,959 Speaker 2: True? All right? 406 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 4: The question is from cat? How many times can you 407 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 4: wear jeans before they're dirty? Am I the only one 408 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 4: who wears jeans more than other clothes before washing them? Up? 409 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 2: With that? You you'd be happy to hear. We had 410 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 2: a very long discussion about this that we actually ended 411 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 2: up cutting from the Outside Clothes episode. We did maybe 412 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 2: ten minutes on jeans. 413 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 5: Yep, do it again. 414 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 2: I mentioned in that episode I almost never washed my jeans. 415 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 2: I only wash my jeans when they are dirty, like 416 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 2: there's visible dirt on them or they smell. I am 417 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 2: a firm believer that you do not need to wash 418 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 2: your jeans unless absolutely necessary. So, like these jeans I'm 419 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 2: wearing right now, it's. 420 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 5: Been months, months, months, So how often do you wear those? 421 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 3: Would you say? 422 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 4: Like? 423 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 5: How many wears? 424 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 2: Do you think? Oh, that's a good question, let's say 425 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 2: because like once a week. 426 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, they're in your rotation eight to twelve eight not more. 427 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wear yeah, I go in I know, if 428 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 2: I'm washing jeans, it's like, okay, like I went to 429 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 2: the park with yea like a ball dirt Yeah, yeah exactly. 430 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 4: For me, it's it's it's less the dirt, of course, 431 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 4: the dirt thing, but it's more like the stretchiness. Like 432 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 4: you wear pants and then they kind of loosen up 433 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 4: but in a way, and then. 434 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 2: I want to wash. Yeah, well, well we're moving away 435 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 2: from the type jeans you know now. 436 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, of course. 437 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 2: Huge genes, but during the jagging stage of our youth, 438 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 2: that was a big thing for why women would wash 439 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 2: your genes so often, because like you're saying, if you 440 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 2: don't wash them, then they lose that what do you 441 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 2: call it stretchiness, yeah, elasticity, yeah exactly, and they become 442 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 2: looser on you. Yeah, so when you do watch them, 443 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 2: especially if you draw them, it makes it entire but yeah, 444 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 2: I almost never watched my Yeah. 445 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it ruins your genes. 446 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, especially I think if I mean I don't have 447 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 4: any like expensive nights genes. But I know people would 448 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 4: like the real raw salvage denom thing. They're really not 449 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 4: washing them, like literally not like maybe dry clean. 450 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:53,959 Speaker 5: I guess I don't know. 451 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: There are two reasons that I'm with Kat here. Number 452 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: one is, you know, this could be law assumption, but 453 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: you know, jeans are a little thicker, they're harder than 454 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 1: other pants, so I feel like they're more durable. And 455 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, you, guys, I don't wash them unless they 456 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: either have like a stain on them or you know, 457 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: it's been a really long time, and I'm like, these 458 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: could use a freshening. 459 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 3: Number two is I'm just. 460 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: I can't be bothered to like, look at the exact 461 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: way you're supposed to wash every item of clothing. Like 462 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: some people are like this where they like you pay 463 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: attention to like these jeans, Like I can't. You know, 464 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 1: I'm not going to wash them in the correct way, 465 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: So I'm going to wash them in the my washing 466 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 1: machine and uh and when I do that, they get 467 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: a little tighter, and you know it takes me like 468 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: a full week of wearing them to get back to 469 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: where they are. Ye. 470 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 3: So yeah, that's my thinking on this. 471 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 2: I don't like, Yeah, I don't like the fit of 472 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 2: them after their washing. 473 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 4: I did reach out to our friend Jordan, who is 474 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 4: stylish wears clothes. Well, yeah, all right, let's see what 475 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 4: he has to say. 476 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 5: And this is the world premiere. We've never heard this. 477 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 3: Oh right. 478 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 4: For me? 479 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 6: Hey Manny Noah Devin. So to answer the question about jeans, 480 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 6: I feel like you first had to understand the history 481 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 6: of jeans a little bit. People feel like just because 482 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 6: you went to brunch or like stepped on a subway 483 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 6: one time, you have the washer jeans immediately after. 484 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 2: You really don't. 485 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 6: Jeans used to be warned by like farm hands and 486 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 6: like people in coal mines. So you just grabbing I 487 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 6: don't know, a new drink at like the local bar 488 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 6: or something is not an immediate reason that runs in 489 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 6: the Washington and throw your jeans in. 490 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 2: Uh. 491 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 6: Personally, I think just wear them until they smell. You 492 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 6: have a nose, you're be able to figure it out. 493 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 6: But yeah, you don't need to wash them immediately. You 494 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 6: got a lot of time in there. 495 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 2: That was a great answer. 496 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 5: Next case, yeah, killed it, shut it down. 497 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 2: It's funny when he said we gotta talk about the 498 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 2: history of I'm like, well, you pranking us, like. 499 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 5: You know here some good points. 500 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, now that's a that's a great idea. I didn't 501 00:21:58,720 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: think about what jeans are. 502 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, you talk to you said you saw a CNN. 503 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then if you don't trust Jordan or us, 504 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 4: our good friends at CNN wrote an article a few 505 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 4: couple of years ago. 506 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 3: Are good friends. 507 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, who I know, I'm seeing it. 508 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 5: Anderson Cooper Flitzer, Yeah, Jake Tapper, Yeah, Jake. 509 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 4: Anyway, this article, I'll link to it, but it's it's 510 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 4: not super in depth. The main thrust of it is 511 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 4: just that you know, if you're not sweating a lot, 512 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 4: and if you're wearing underwear. Yeah, yeah, which I assume 513 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 4: we typically are, crazy. 514 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 3: I wouldn't. 515 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 2: It's not even comfortable, No, exactly. Yeah. 516 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 4: They say you really don't need to watch them much. 517 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 4: They're not getting dirty. Yeah, just from kind of normal use. 518 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're like, as you're clean. 519 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 4: And not like in an extreme situation where you're sweating 520 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 4: a lot or whatever, then you're pretty much good to go. 521 00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 2: So good to know. 522 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 5: I think I think that's about that. 523 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 4: Another thing from this episode to follow up on, because 524 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 4: we did have a friend who had some issues with this, 525 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 4: was about cleaning your sponge in the microwave, which was 526 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 4: recommended by our expert. 527 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,959 Speaker 2: There, doctor Lisa. Apparently people need some instructions. 528 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, your friends Rich, you have to call you 529 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 4: out Rich. 530 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 5: You might remember from episode one on Audio Doos. 531 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, Rich told us he said he was going to 532 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 2: sue us because he put his our first lawsuit put 533 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 2: the He put the sponge in the microwave, and he 534 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 2: said it almost caught fire because he missed a very 535 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 2: important step, which is first you have to wet the sponge. Yeah, 536 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 2: it's he did not wet the sponge. 537 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 4: He just putting a dry sponge, which strange because it's 538 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 4: like when are you watching it, Like you're watching your 539 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 4: stuff letting time pass dry. But then you're like, I'm 540 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 4: putting it in there basically right after I watched Yes, 541 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 4: because like I'm like, all right, I'm done washing. 542 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 5: This is the perfect time to do this. 543 00:23:59,080 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 4: Now. 544 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 5: I don't need out, I need it for open Yeah. 545 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 1: Isn't the idea that the that seems like common sensor 546 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 1: in the sponge turns into steam to clean it. 547 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 2: And it also prevents it from burning. 548 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, caction fire. 549 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 2: So here's some you know a lot of people have 550 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 2: said this is like their biggest takeaway from that episode 551 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 2: is that like, ah, maybe I'm not going to do 552 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 2: the things with the bed, but I will sponge, so 553 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 2: wet your sponge. Step one. Also make sure that you're 554 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 2: not putting any sort of metal short of sponges in 555 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 2: the right way if that should be common sense. But 556 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 2: let's just say here any more lawsuits. Yeah, and then 557 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 2: you can put it in anywhere between one and two minutes. 558 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 5: It's going to be hot when you take it out. 559 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 2: It's going to be hot. 560 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 5: Sit there, get some gloves. 561 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 2: Not grab it immediately, give it some time, give it 562 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 2: about ten minutes, fifteen minutes before you grab it out, 563 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 2: so we don't get that lawsuit either. 564 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 565 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 5: Our legal council is right next to us. 566 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 2: What's funny too, is I was in researching just to 567 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 2: make sure that we were telling people to write information. 568 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 2: In about twenty sixteen twenty seventeen, there was a scientific 569 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 2: study about, you know, how much germs are being killed 570 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 2: during this and then the New York Times did an 571 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 2: article about that, and people were writing articles as recent 572 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 2: as last year saying don't microwave your sponge. And I 573 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 2: was like, whoa old, don't microwave your sponge. So I 574 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 2: click on your article and they're like, don't microwave your sponge. 575 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 2: Because microwaving your sponge only kills the worst bacteria, it 576 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 2: doesn't kill all of it. I'm like, Okay, that's exactly 577 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 2: what I thought. I didn't think putting it in the 578 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 2: microwave means it's a brand new sponge. That's like saying, 579 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 2: don't wash your hands because you're not going to get 580 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 2: rid of all of the germs, just the worst germs. 581 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: So was it like clickbaity or was it more like 582 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: they were. 583 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 2: About three or four. I don't understand. I guess they 584 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 2: thought that. Well, look, there's also the other thing of right, 585 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 2: just because your microwave your sponge doesn't mean you can 586 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 2: never replace your sponge. You still have to replace your 587 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 2: sponge pretty regularly, you know, like every two weeks or so, 588 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 2: depending on you know, depending on any dish you're watching, 589 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 2: what you're watching, that sort of similar genes. So, yeah, 590 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 2: if you're just microwaving your sponge and then not replacing 591 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 2: your sponge, that's bad. Yeah, but micro waving your sponge 592 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 2: is good because it kills the worst bacteria. Yeah, there 593 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 2: will still be bacteria there, but that's not an excuse 594 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 2: to not Michael waves. It's not killing all of it. 595 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: What is this just like telling someone not to get 596 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: a job because it's not going to pay you all 597 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: the money. 598 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, some of it. 599 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 2: Small fraction, so that those are instructions for Michael waving 600 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 2: your sponge. 601 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 3: Don't don't feel too bad, rich, but we are making 602 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 3: fun of you. 603 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll be hearing about this in the group. The 604 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 5: text Now, this is an email. 605 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 4: We got from Lauren about our follow Ups episode Why 606 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 4: men Don't Ask follow up Questions. Lauren writes, my cousin 607 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 4: made up a social experiment called the tribute shay theory. 608 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 4: You're supposed to ask your male partner, out of the blue, 609 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 4: what do you call that thing that's like a catapult 610 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 4: but starts with a t The theory hypothesizes that the 611 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 4: man will respond with the correct answer, a tribute shay. 612 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 4: He will then proceed to ask zero follow up questions 613 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 4: about why you may have wanted or needed this information. However, 614 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 4: he might explain to you unprompted, the difference between a 615 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 4: catapult and a tribute shait. Admittedly, this theory has only 616 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 4: been tested about five times, but the results we got 617 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 4: were undeniable, though I can see it may have just 618 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 4: been indicative of the type of men in our. 619 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 3: Social circles real quick? 620 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 2: Did y'all know? 621 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: So? 622 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't ask you guys this. I looked it up. 623 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:41,479 Speaker 5: But do you guys know the difference? 624 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 2: I M? 625 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, really, you haven't heard it? 626 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 4: No, I knew the term. I didn't know the difference 627 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 4: now to me, it was the same thing. 628 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: But I do know that there are different types of catapults, like, yeah, 629 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: the one with the big spoon, yeah, versus one with 630 00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: like a slingshot situation. 631 00:27:59,440 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 632 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,199 Speaker 4: So this link shot from what I understand is, a 633 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 4: catapult is a device for hurdling projectiles. So that's the 634 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 4: kind of umbrellatibus is a type of catapult that uses 635 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 4: gravity via a counterweight and typically a slink to hurdle 636 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 4: said projectiles. So ABU is a catapult, not all catapults 637 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 4: or tribut shit. 638 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: Yeh see that is such a funny, uh kind of experiment. 639 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 4: I don't know if I would get the answer and then, yeah, 640 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 4: I would, Yeah, I would. I would be like where 641 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 4: are you like, because I'd be like, why are you 642 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 4: talking about? 643 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 5: No offense to women? 644 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 2: Hey? If one of you sent me to yeah, why 645 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 2: the hell are you? What are you talking about? Yeah? 646 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels similar to the Roman Empire thing. 647 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely your version, Yeah exactly. 648 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, so send us other things like this we could 649 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 4: do and try this out with some of your male partners. 650 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 5: Out there and let us know how they respond. 651 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 4: And then yeah, so now lost to wrap up, because 652 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 4: I think it'll be nice given that, you know, there's 653 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 4: a lot of new listeners. We got an early email 654 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 4: from Ryan and he asks, why do I and others 655 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 4: I know feel the need to make a podcast or 656 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 4: TikTok or something like that when there's really nothing interesting 657 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 4: about myself? Probably social validation, I guess, I don't know. 658 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 4: I thought you guys might relate to this. Wow, So 659 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 4: I guess let's start with us, like why do we 660 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 4: want to start a podcast, and then we can broaden it. 661 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: Out because you know, we started talking about this podcast 662 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: like ten years ago before we actually got off of 663 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: our asses to make it. But I think it's the 664 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: same reason why we got into media and journalism, which 665 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: is like, we like to tell stories or we like 666 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: to explain things, and I think this specific podcast helps 667 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: us do that. We wouldn't I don't, I mean maybe 668 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: now we would, now that more people have listened to 669 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: the show and like us, but ten years ago, we 670 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: would never have talked about starting a podcast that's just 671 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: us talking about yeah random yeah, Like so many people 672 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: do start those in all the Power too then because 673 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: some of them become really successful. 674 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 3: But that's not what we were interested in doing. 675 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: We were interested in, like I think, imparting some knowledge 676 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: and explaining situations. That's part of why we got into journalism. 677 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 3: I think. 678 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, from my perspective, why I felt like, oh, we 679 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 2: should actually do this is because it felt like something 680 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 2: I would listen to if I were not Yeah, right, 681 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 2: So like when we're making it, that's how I think 682 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 2: about it. It's like I was just feeling like when 683 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 2: I'm going to my podcast app, it's like, is this 684 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 2: doing something different than like another podcast would do it? 685 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 2: And there are times where we are like talking about 686 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 2: a topic where we're like, actually, we shouldn't do this 687 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 2: because this is that podcast. 688 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, it's not us. 689 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's weird because like I feel like, you know, 690 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 2: obviously we put a lot of hours into this and 691 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 2: I think a lot about this, but like I would 692 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 2: never like a TikTok, Like I don't that is not 693 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 2: interesting to me, Like I don't think about like I 694 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 2: need to put myself into TikTok, like we make tiktoks 695 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 2: for the show. 696 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's like we're doing this for specific reason. Yeah. 697 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: And I think as people in media, at least, we're 698 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: already trained to know when something is different, like we 699 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't do this because the Times did it or whatever. Yeah, 700 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: and so like, yeah, we've got that kind of layer 701 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: to this podcast where it's like there are other podcasts 702 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: that explain questions, but I think we do have Like 703 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: it's different because of the exact premise. It's like three 704 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: friends who are always arguing, who are also journalists. 705 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think to to now broaden it because 706 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 4: I'm assuming Ryan is not working in media, and it's more, 707 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 4: you know, talking about generally, like why someone would want 708 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 4: to start a podcast. I think it's it's because the format, 709 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 4: I think is just generally more casual. It's not like 710 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 4: some random person deciding they're gonna suddenly like write newspaper 711 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 4: or magazine stories or something. Yeah, you know, it's like, yeah, 712 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 4: you can even if you are explaining something in a 713 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 4: journalistic way or whatever, it's it is usually more casual 714 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 4: in tone or whatever. So you listen to a podcast 715 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 4: enough you feel like you know those people or whatever, 716 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 4: and there's that sort of. 717 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 5: Relationship, it feels more attainable. 718 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 719 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it feels like, oh, I could do this, 720 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 4: Like I think that's how we felt when we. 721 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 5: Did Search Engine for the first time. 722 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 4: Yeah too, Like even broader, it's like, I'm sure someone 723 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 4: like why you want to make anything? 724 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 5: It's like, I'm sure there's some. 725 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 4: Human in like, I don't know, I'm sure Freud writes 726 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 4: about this. I'm just like, you want to make something 727 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 4: and feel it something, you know. So I think it's 728 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 4: all those things. But yeah, I think why you know, 729 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 4: in podcasts or TikTok instead of other mediums, it's like 730 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 4: it's accessible and it also. 731 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 5: Feels personal and personable. 732 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 733 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I guess a good question to Ryan would be, 734 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 2: it sounds like you're contemplating making something. Are you making it? 735 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 4: Like? 736 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 2: Would you be okay with making the thing if nobody 737 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 2: else saw it? 738 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? 739 00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 2: I think that was a big conversation that we had. 740 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 2: It's just like, we can make this thing and there 741 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 2: could be five people listening to it, yea three of 742 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 2: what you are on the podcast? 743 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 5: Yeah. 744 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know like, yeah, would that still be 745 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 2: to you? Are you doing this with the hopes of 746 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 2: an audience? Yeah, because you know, it's a lot of 747 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 2: work and there's no guarantee that you're gonna have an audience. 748 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great question though. Yeah, it made me 749 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 3: think a little bit. 750 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's good to reflect. 751 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, someone's like, we don't need another podcast. 752 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 3: What do you guys exactly? It'll be like, well, yeah, 753 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 3: I like to tell stories. 754 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 4: I guess that's about it for the mail bag this time. 755 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 4: But there's tons of other great questions. And if you've 756 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 4: already submitted a question and we didn't get to it, 757 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 4: stay in line. 758 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 5: We might get to it eventually. 759 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 3: Bottles. 760 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, don't worry. But yeah, we'll probably do 761 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 4: another one of these in a few weeks. And please 762 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 4: send more and thanks for listening. 763 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 5: All the usual stuff. 764 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 4: Give us five stars and share with friends and follow 765 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 4: us and all that. 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