1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Doug Gottlieb Show podcast. Be 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday three to five, 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:09,159 Speaker 1: Easter twelve, two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: local station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at Foxsports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching app as call boom mo Up America, 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show, Fuck Sports Radio. I hope you're having 8 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: a great day of The Doug Gottlieb Show. Broadcasting from 9 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: a or bicoastal here right. Some of us are in 10 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: southern California. One of us is in the northeastern Wisconsin. 11 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: Just had a classic summer thunderstorm go through here in Scannie. 12 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: As we react to last night's All Star Game and 13 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: a lot of takeaways, we'll get to them in a moment. 14 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: John Mindocaff will join us as we're getting closer and 15 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: closer to training camp getting underway in the National Football League. 16 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: J stew Is the newest w NBA supervan. J stew 17 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: Is out on the w NBA. We'll get to that. 18 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: Brad Beal no longer a son? Where is he? You 19 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: may have heard from ANSI Bilanos. We'll discuss it more 20 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: throughout the show. Plus we got the Midway to which 21 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: we'll talk about travel and where you stay in travel. 22 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: That's that's that's what I get to, uh, welcome in listen. 23 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: I watched last night's All Star Game, not not first 24 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 1: to last pitch. I'm not going to sit here and lie, 25 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 1: but I did actually see national anthem, and then I 26 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: was you know, I played I think nine holes yesterday 27 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: and then was having a couple of beverages watching the 28 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: first couple innings, went to a buddy's house and watched 29 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: the last couple innings, and when it went to extra innings, 30 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: this was one of those I just kind of be 31 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: honest with you. I had no idea that's how they 32 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: decided the All Star Game. None, and I'm guessing none 33 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: of us did. Jay stud Did you have any idea 34 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: that they did a swing off? 35 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 2: Nope, not a bit. Didn't know one thing about it. 36 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not a bashed to say that I 37 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: didn't know. The only thing I knew heading into this 38 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: All Star Game was two things. One Miss Rowski was 39 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: a controversial pick, and two that they were going to 40 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: use abs and and we'll see kind of how it looked. Okay, 41 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna offend defend Ken Rosenthal against Eric Hosmer, 42 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: who's like, dude, you not get the job that you 43 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: actually have. Now we'll get to that in a second. 44 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: And then you know, ABS was great. It was like cyclops. 45 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: It's like the tennis thing. You're like, man, why haven't 46 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: had that sooner? And the answer is they actually do 47 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: have it in the minor leagues. I don't know what 48 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: we're waiting for. That thing was fantastic. You just touch 49 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: your helmet, they review it. It shows in the replay like, oh, 50 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: look at that just yea, just not merely a strike. 51 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: And I said this on the podcast, they'll say it 52 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: for real here, which is I kind of think last 53 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: night in the ABS, I gotta be honest. I think 54 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: the umpster a little bit better. We give them credit. 55 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: He's like, man, that's really really close. That's really really hard. 56 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: There's no way that the human eye can actually see 57 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: baller strike when it's that close. You're guessing, and if 58 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: you say otherwise, you're lying. Like it's really hard. You 59 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: gotta be really good and you're gonna make mistakes. But 60 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: I do think that Baseball has done a bad job, 61 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: just like hockey. It's like hockey, isn't overtime in hockey, 62 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: like three on three with a goalie, But most people 63 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: don't know that because they don't want regular season hockey. 64 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: Like I had no idea, Like, yeah, it's like a 65 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: different sport. So here's what happens. Okay. Each league got 66 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: to send up three hitters who each got three swings apiece. 67 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: Whichever side had the most total homers would win the game. 68 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: That's really how they decided the All Star Game. The 69 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: National League came out on top thanks to Schwarber. He 70 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: had three homers in his three swings. In total the NFL, 71 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: the NL had four homers compared to three for the 72 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: American League, and it was six to six at the 73 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: end of nine. So I was entertained. Although I do 74 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: think that one of the things Baseball's All Star Game 75 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: has to kind of figure out is, you know, the 76 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: game is generally start the stars and get them in early, 77 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: and then get them out of the game. So All 78 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: Star Games are usually decided by guys. You're like, I've 79 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: never heard of this guy. He's the one pick a 80 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: team who they had to have have an All Star. 81 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: You know Matt Olsen for example, who a couple of 82 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: years ago amazing, but this year not amazing. And he 83 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: was the Braves guy and the brave slugger, and he 84 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: was playing first base late in the game, at bat 85 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: late in the game. It is fine because he's been 86 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: an All Star caliber player before in his career, but 87 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: really not this year. Only reason he was there because 88 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: it was the Braves in Atlanta. They needed a player. 89 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 3: Uh. 90 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: Do I think it's the best way to decide a game? 91 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 3: No? 92 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: Did I think it was entertaining? Yeah? Is it different? Yeah, 93 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: it's an All Star game. I'm not offended. Is anybody 94 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: offended by it? Sam? Are you offended by it? You're like, 95 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: this is a travesty and a mockery, a travish mockery 96 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: the swing off. Yes. 97 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 4: Oh I At first I thought Jason Stewart would it 98 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 4: would elicit some kind of you're annoying, But we all 99 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 4: kind of came to the same conclusion that it was fun. 100 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 2: I enjoyed it. 101 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: Fun. 102 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 103 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 1: Fun. Did you know it was coming? 104 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:40,799 Speaker 2: No? 105 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 3: No? 106 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 4: Because I mean, when's the last time an All Star 107 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 4: Game ended in a tie? 108 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: Milwaukee? 109 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 4: I think you know too, right, Okay, well a long 110 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 4: time ago, so I yeah, And I don't think they 111 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 4: had this rule at that time. 112 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: So no, that was the tie. That was when they 113 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: started to go it means more and they start having 114 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:56,239 Speaker 1: it decided to home field advantage. 115 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 3: No. 116 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 2: I enjoyed it, though, what are you gonna say? 117 00:05:58,800 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: Jay stuh? 118 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 3: Okay, I enjoyed it. I thought, uh, I had no 119 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 3: idea what was coming. The swing off was weird. Of course, 120 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 3: the first thing you ask yourself, they didn't. I don't 121 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 3: think they did a great job of explaining this. And 122 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 3: as it did, I missed it. Why wasn't Judge and 123 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 3: on show? 124 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 2: Hey? Uh in At the end, I guess it's been tame. 125 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: Were they gone? 126 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 2: They took off? 127 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought they were gone. I mean that's that again. 128 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: That's part of the deal is they come in and 129 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: they're like, I'm good, I'm done. Okay, I'm gonna just 130 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: Irish exit at the back door. We did establish it's 131 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: the Iris exit, right, because the Italian exit has got 132 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: to be everybody's got to know that you're going, and like, hey, 133 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: Joey's going, Joey's gone, Hey Joey's. 134 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 4: Ravens kissed him goodbye. The Irish is iris so blacked 135 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 4: out drunk, you wander out the back door. 136 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 1: I did not say that you did. I know that 137 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: you're right, but again, you wander out the back door. 138 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: So Aaron Judge, show hey, o Tani Irish exit. I 139 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: was thinking the same thing, and I again, I was 140 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: as at a buddy's house who has a big golf 141 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: sim and then a couple of big TVs. And we're watching. 142 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 1: We're like tied, and we're like tied again, now what 143 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden they start doing the 144 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,119 Speaker 1: swing off. I wasn't really paying attention, like wait, that's 145 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: this is what they do. And no one in the 146 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: room had any idea. And they were much bigger baseball 147 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: fans than I were. And somebody did ask like we're 148 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: show hey, Whereas I was like they they I'm sure 149 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: they were out of there because I remember Derek Jeter, 150 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: like in his last All Star game, was like second 151 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: inning and then all of a sudden, there's like a plane. 152 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: They're like, there goes Jeter's playing. Those dudes are out out. 153 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: I heard Collins say that it was the greatest All 154 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: Star game he'd watched. What was that in years or 155 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: in a year or ever. I'm not sure a bit 156 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: of hyperbole, but it would actually actually be accurate for 157 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: me because I never watched All Star games. So yeah, 158 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: it was good. It's a good celebration in the sport. 159 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: It was fine. You know, it ends up essentially being 160 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: a tie and then you have kind of a creative ending. 161 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: I'm not offended by any of it. The only thing 162 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: that I was left walking away from the game was 163 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: how have we waited this long for ABS? And imagine 164 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: the fact that we don't have it for the second 165 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: half of the year. We'd like just had it for 166 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: the All Star Game. Clearly works pretty easy. It's been 167 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: used in the minor league, so it's not like last 168 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: night was the first night. Like they're way past the 169 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 1: beta testing and you're sitting there thinking why would we 170 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: go without this? It's so much better, and it's better 171 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: for the umpires, you know, call your ball, call your strike, 172 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 1: and then people are going to see when you miss, 173 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: when you make a mistake, you're making mistake by like 174 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: a millimeter. So I think most people thought I could 175 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: be wrong. Most people thought that ABS would make the 176 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: umpires look like clowns because of how badly they missed 177 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: ball and strike calls. I think that's a fair fair 178 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: perception to have. Oh, it's just going to show how 179 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: bad these three blind mice are. Reality is, it's really hard. 180 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: The margin is so very slight. And of all of 181 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: those calls, some were reversed, some were not. Again, you're 182 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: talking about a speck of a baseball coming in low 183 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: to mid to upper nineties and you got to make 184 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: a split second call on a millimeter or less of 185 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: baseball and whether or not it comes to in the zone. 186 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: ABS was a win, with the exception of the fact 187 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 1: that it's been ready to be used for two years now. 188 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: It makes the umpires look better or not worse. Everybody 189 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 1: likes it. It's quick, it's easy, it doesn't actually extend 190 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 1: the game, and yet we're still not going to have 191 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: it for the rest of the season. Do you know why? 192 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 1: It's baseball? That's baseball. This is the Doug Gottlieb Show. 193 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: For him forty years, Tyrak has been helping customers find 194 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: the right tires for how what where they drive, ship 195 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: passed and free and back by free road as protection 196 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: with convenient insulation options like mobile tire installation. Tyret dot Com, 197 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: the way tire bike should be. It's now time for 198 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: the tyrack play the day. 199 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 3: Swarmer in the air to center field, headed towards the 200 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 3: wall A. 201 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 5: Center. 202 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 6: It's huge for the Factional League. They're within one, so 203 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 6: there you go. 204 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 3: He said, if he could get it on his first swing, 205 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 3: and he did, sor bars in the. 206 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 6: All Star Game, tied it free. 207 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 1: That's MVP material. 208 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 5: If he gets the third one right here, they are 209 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 5: rallied in the game. 210 00:10:55,320 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 6: And now has rallied in the swing of track out 211 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 6: shop House nationally. 212 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 7: It takes to leave three. 213 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: That's calls on Fox Sports. Is the guy who's had 214 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: a lot of fun with it. It's a good way 215 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: to end it. Again. I'm not a huge home run 216 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: derby guy, but when a little home run derby breaks 217 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: out to decide the All Star Game, I'm all for. 218 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: This is the Doug Gottlieb Show and coming up next 219 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 1: live here on Foxsports Radio. Uh uh, Bill Belichick and 220 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: Robert Craft are not letting bygones be bygones? How bad 221 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: is it? Find out next? Thanks for listening to The 222 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: Doug Gottleb Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live 223 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: every weekday three to five Eastern twelve, two Pacific on 224 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for the Doug 225 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: Gottlieb Show at Foxsports Radio dot Com, or stream us 226 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 227 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 6: This is the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. 228 00:11:54,720 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 1: It's the Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. So do 229 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: you remember Robert Craft and Bill Belichick and how that 230 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: thing ended in New England? You're like, well, they didn't 231 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: seem to like each other very much and then they 232 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: had the kind of awkward should we hugged, we shake hands? 233 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: At his retirement press conference. Here's Robert Craft on Dudes 234 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: on Dudes as the Edelman and Gronk podcast talking about 235 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: when he hired Bill Belichick in ninety nine. 236 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 7: I think getting Bill Belichick to come to the Patriots 237 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 7: in nineteen ninety nine it was a big risk, and 238 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 7: I got hammered in the Boston media. But I think 239 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 7: he was with us for twenty four years and we 240 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 7: did okay. 241 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, And he's saying it's a big risk because you know, 242 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: he didn't win in Cleveland and he did okay, did okay. 243 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: Fascinating way to put it okay in a statement. Belichick 244 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: responded by saying that he made a similar leap when 245 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: he signed from the Jets in order to come to 246 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: New England. As I told Robert multiple times through the years, 247 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: I took a big risk by taking the Patriots head 248 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: coaching job. I already had the opportunity to be the 249 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: head coach of the New York Jets, but the ownership 250 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 1: situation was unstable. I had been worn by multiple previous 251 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: Patriots coaches as well as other members of NFL organizations 252 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: in the media, that the New England job was going 253 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: to come with many internal obstacles. I made it clear 254 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: that we would have to change the way the team 255 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 1: was managed to regain the previously attained success. So everybody's 256 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: trying to claim victory here. You know, Robert Kraft like man, 257 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: I took a big risk and it seemed to work out, okay, 258 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: Bill Beolutz looks like no. I took a big risk 259 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: and it seemed to work out. Okay. Huge egos. Do 260 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: I think that Craft getting out of the way is 261 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: actually a really good move for the team. It was 262 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: clearly and again, as an owner, he wants to take 263 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: credit for staff, where technically he did own the team. 264 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: Technically he did sign off on it, but technically the 265 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: best thing he did was play zero part in the 266 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: actual football operations. So congrats to you. I'd actually sided 267 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: with Belichick, but I don't really understand Belichick's desire to 268 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: extract some sort of gratification and a win out of 269 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: this discussion. Thanks for listening to The Doug Gotleep Show podcast. 270 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every week day from 271 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: three to five Eastern twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 272 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: Find your local station for The Dougatleep Show at Foxsports 273 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: Radio dot com, or stream us live every day on 274 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR so Doug Gottlieb Show 275 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: here on Fox Sports Radio. All right, John Mittalcoff joins 276 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: this three and out is in fact the podcast, but 277 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: he also has to Going Low podcast. I used to 278 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: be a club thrower, a mutterer, but I just I'm 279 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: not good enough, nor do I play or practice enough 280 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: to be that guy. What do you like on a 281 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: bad day on the course. 282 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 5: I'm with you. When I was younger, I was you know, 283 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 5: my dad probably wanted to kill me. It's a it's 284 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 5: an awful look, I would say, as I've gotten into 285 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 5: my thirties. I just enjoy being outside in the sun. 286 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 5: So whether I'm shooting seventy five or ninety. The occasional 287 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 5: f bomb, but the days of throwing clubs and kicking 288 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 5: in you know, lockers like Wyndham Clark are long gone. 289 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 5: The occasional you know, throw your hands up in the air, 290 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 5: that's human, like Scotty did last week. But the what 291 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 5: Wyndham Clark this year has been on a tear Yeah. 292 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: No doubt about it. What do you think of again? 293 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: I know we used talk football, but you also do 294 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: the golf podcast. Scotti Scheffler's remarks yesterday in regards to 295 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: just kind of being empty after winning majors, especially the 296 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: two Masters. 297 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 5: You know what's funny is I I'm glad you talked 298 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 5: about this because I saw you you talk about this yesterday. 299 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 5: I think I thought on social media for about eight minutes. 300 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 5: I think there are a lot of different variables because 301 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 5: I know your take and the emotion with some of 302 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 5: these younger guys never used to get talked about that. 303 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 5: There was a clip I thought today probably about an 304 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 5: hour ago, as Rodris Harrington, you know who's a Tiger 305 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 5: generation was almost offended. You know, He's like it was 306 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 5: you know, what's he even talking about. I think there 307 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 5: are some parallels. Remember a couple of years ago, Adam 308 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 5: Silver said all this players are miserable. Yeah, and Scott 309 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 5: I would say, Scottie Scheffler over the last eighteen months 310 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 5: starting last year through this year's probably made a hundred 311 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 5: million dollars. He made sixty five last year just on 312 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 5: the course. So if you factor in Nike, which he's 313 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 5: obviously him and Rory are their lead dogs. By winning 314 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 5: those tournaments, winning the Major as, the bonuses he got 315 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 5: might have been twenty million Taylor made. He's made so 316 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 5: much money where he's like he could quit today and 317 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 5: financially never. I do think that has ramifications. And I 318 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 5: think the NBA is the same way. It's like you're playing. 319 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 5: Kevin Durant was a good example. He's like I won, 320 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 5: No one really cared, and then like it's like what 321 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 5: do I do now? 322 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 3: You know? 323 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 5: And I think these guys now because they live on 324 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 5: social media, Scotty, not necessarily, but they have so much 325 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 5: money and the accomplishment. Like back in the day, even 326 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 5: like when Tiger first started, you just you were constantly 327 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 5: climbing because you had to earn it. You had to 328 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 5: earn it. Now it's like, if you do have success, 329 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 5: you get paid so much money, and I do think 330 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 5: that just warps you know, in your twenties, how you 331 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 5: just think about things. 332 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 2: But I also say. 333 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 5: This, you know Scotty's comments, if you just read them, 334 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 5: you'd be like, God, this guy doesn't really care. Like 335 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 5: his actions speak differently. Right, He's won essentially fifteen sixteen 336 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 5: times over the last two years, so he's his effort 337 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 5: and how much he tries. It's not like he's been 338 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 5: phased by the money. But you could argue if you 339 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 5: watch that whole thing, he's kind of talking out of 340 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 5: both sides of his mouth because he says he gets 341 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 5: emotional when he cries, but also what's it all for? 342 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 5: But it's not like he's lazy, right, it's not. You know, 343 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 5: he's working just as hard as you'd say, like, well, 344 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 5: Mahomes and Kelsey are still on the grind even after 345 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 5: all the championship, Like Scotty's still working like he's Tiger. 346 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:22,239 Speaker 5: But I do think there's that generation of guy. I mean, 347 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 5: even Rory won the Masters and he's like, I'm kind 348 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 5: of over it now, you know. So can you imagine 349 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 5: Tiger or Brady or MJ talking like that? You're Kobe, 350 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 5: no chance. 351 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: Now, I think there's a lot to it. I also 352 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: think I don't know what youth golf is like, but 353 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: I can tell you that there's been a lot of 354 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 1: squessions about like youth basketball, and there are so many 355 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: more tournaments that winning one isn't as special as it 356 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: used to be. Now granted you're talking about majors, you're 357 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: talking about the Masters, there's only one, but when you've 358 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,479 Speaker 1: played in you know, five ex to tournaments of other people, 359 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 1: then winning one does not seem like at nearly as 360 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: big a thing. I mean, look that that By the way, 361 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: that's a comment that everyone I know was talking about yesterday. 362 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: That's really the interesting part about. 363 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 5: It every day, I know, in fairness, you know, he 364 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 5: didn't he mentioned like regular PG events like the Byron 365 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 5: Nelson in his backyard. He didn't mention the Masters, which 366 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 5: I obviously means a lot to no matter who. I 367 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 5: do think there's some you know that's where the NBA 368 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 5: comp you know, or just basketball, like regular season game 369 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 5: like what is this? Who cares? And like winning a 370 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 5: regular PGA event, who cares? You know, I think there's 371 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 5: some element to what he said that parallel is like 372 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 5: football world, right, whenever you win a game. Let's say 373 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 5: we're watching Sunday Night Football and the Chiefs beat the Broncos, 374 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 5: and your interviewing Patrick Mahomes, He's like, well, we gotta 375 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 5: we gotta stay focused because we've got the Chargers coming up. 376 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 5: It's just isn't that kind of sports Like you're just 377 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 5: always kind of on to the next thing. So, I 378 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 5: don't know, there are a lot of angles to this. 379 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 5: I do think his action back up that he really cares, right, 380 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 5: because he's been so good now two years. It's not 381 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 5: like he's resting on his laurels, right, He's grinding and practicing. 382 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 5: And he even't mentioned that that's the weird That's what 383 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 5: I'm saying. He was kind of just kind of randing. 384 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 5: But it's not like he had one specific point beside like, yeah, 385 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 5: sometimes you win, you realize like no one actually cares 386 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 5: after a while. 387 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, Doug Gotlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, 388 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: let's turn to the National Football League. Oh so many 389 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: little kind of little stories sort of kind of to 390 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: get through and to kind of sort of figure out. 391 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: By the way Barry Sanders' birthday is today, I bring 392 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 1: it up. I bring it up because you know, like 393 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: anytime you think somebody had a great year in college football, 394 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: check out Barry Sanders year, You're like, oh, I was, 395 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: I was a lot a lot better. I think that 396 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: Saquan is the first guy who I can actually have 397 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: a reasonable conversation that does some of those freaky things. 398 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: He had great backs, like Dereck Henry's a great back, 399 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,719 Speaker 1: like you kind of go back. There's there's been all 400 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: different big ones, little ones, Marshall fak Is, ability to 401 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: catch out of the backfield or whatever. But in terms 402 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: of doing things where you make people miss and you 403 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 1: jump over people or make them look almost like Keystone cops, 404 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: I think Saquon's the first guy since Barry Sanders to 405 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: that am I forgetting anybody? 406 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 5: Yeah? I think physically from a strength standpoint, that was 407 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 5: always the underrated part about like Barry, like his size, 408 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 5: how strong he was. I mean some of those epics 409 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 5: like him dragging guys that were holding on for dear life. 410 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 5: I would say that Barry was I mean in this 411 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 5: day and age, obviously, I mean he would dominate in 412 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 5: any air he was, he would have been viewed also 413 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 5: like an Lt. Marshall fall catching the ball. You know, 414 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 5: I would say Saquon has solid hands, but I wouldn't 415 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 5: call him like Christian McCaffrey right now. He The difference 416 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 5: is like Barry, like you don't need to be a 417 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 5: great running back. You don't need exceptional like high end speed, 418 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 5: like you can be an all time grave like Frank 419 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 5: Gorey couldn't outrun anyone, but he's you're just a really 420 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 5: really good player. Now if you do have the home 421 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 5: run hitting speed like Adrian Peterson, then it's like you 422 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 5: can be a major problem. And I think that like 423 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 5: that is Saquon's kind of curveball is like he gets 424 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 5: in the open field, he's literally faster than everyone else, 425 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 5: even McCaffrey. Let's assume he's healthy this year. You know 426 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 5: he's going to get caught a decent amount. And I 427 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 5: would say Barry like Saquon, like they got in the 428 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 5: open field and there was green grass, and you know 429 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 5: bo Jackson, like they see you. So it's like and 430 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 5: that's what makes Saquon so fun is I think last 431 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 5: year well with a six or seven sixty plus yard runs, 432 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 5: and that's part of I mean, I would imagine anytime 433 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 5: you find a two thousand yard rusher, they had a 434 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 5: decent amount of chunk runs, right, It's not all just 435 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:54,719 Speaker 5: five and six yard carries. 436 00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he was he was so amazing, so 437 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: amazing last year. Okay, let's kind of go around the 438 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: league here. Let's start with I think the most interesting 439 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: team this year is to Steelers. We've talked about them 440 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: a good amount. Let's kind of start to getting to 441 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: the actual football league talkie. What do you think of 442 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: the roster compilation that they've made? Haven't extended TJ Watt 443 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: to this point? What do you think of what Pittsburgh 444 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: has roster wise hand of the year. 445 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 5: You know, I think they're just so predicated on the 446 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 5: quarterback staying healthy and historically how often new guys wants 447 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 5: they get over forty. I mean, he's an injury that 448 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 5: maybe used to go away in a week and last 449 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 5: a month. He can't scramble around like he used to 450 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 5: when he's not you know, I mean, obviously a good 451 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 5: pocket player, but his game hasn't been predicated like Peyton 452 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 5: or Brady Worry. He just sits there his entire career, 453 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 5: because that's not how he had to play. So I 454 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 5: just what's more likely Rogers plays seventeen games and throws 455 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 5: thirty two touchdowns or you know, you look at Rogers 456 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 5: you know game log in ten years and he starts 457 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 5: nine of him because he has some injuries. So I 458 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 5: think that's going to be the problem. I just have 459 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 5: a hard time seeing him play healthy and loot. They 460 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 5: say a lot of times happens in basketball too, like 461 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 5: the second year returning from the Achilles is when you 462 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 5: get it back. That's fine. But he's not thirty. He's 463 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 5: forty one. So even if he's a little sprier than 464 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 5: he was last year, it's clear he's he's not the 465 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 5: you know, kind of the young, vibrant guy that could. 466 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 5: He was never Lamar, but he could. Scrambling behind the 467 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 5: line of scrimmage was a huge part of his game. 468 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 5: I mean, hell, look at Russell Wilson, who feels like 469 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 5: he's gotten slower movement wise, behind the line of scrimmage 470 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 5: doesn't look nearly the same. And that's that was always 471 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 5: Roger's superpower. So if I'm a betting man, like there 472 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 5: is a case that if he were to get injured 473 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 5: this year, given their quarterback room, this could be the 474 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 5: year that I got The Steelers actually did go seven 475 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 5: and ten and it's a disaster. And they've already admitted, 476 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 5: Like I mean, they don't even have to admit, just 477 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 5: based on their roster, they don't have any backup plan 478 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 5: flash next year, it's like they would be in the 479 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 5: same position. So unless they were to win like two 480 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 5: or three games, it's not like they'd be drafting that high. 481 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 5: So I think they're they got problems. 482 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,959 Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about this Shamar Stewart story. 483 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 5: Okay, So I hope, I hope he goes back to school. 484 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 2: That'd be sick. 485 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: Now do you do know? Okay, So let me lay 486 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: it out for people. Okay, uh, they hid in pass 487 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: in negotiations with the Bengals, right, and his agent excuse me. 488 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: Billy Hayen from the Sportingnews dot Com and Bud Elliott 489 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: from CBS Sports reported that he's fully involved in workouts 490 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: at text A and M, and both their sources say 491 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: could try and come back and play again the season 492 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: going to the draft next year. Here's the part that 493 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: people don't know. The Bengals still retain his rights whether 494 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: he goes back and plays or doesn't. Right, So like 495 00:25:55,400 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: I you say, hope he goes back and plays. Why 496 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 1: he went into the draft. 497 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 5: I just for the story, not that I just think 498 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 5: it'd be you know, the Bengals they're arguing. They're not 499 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 5: arguing over how much money they're going to pay them 500 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,239 Speaker 5: the money set. It's just the dates. I mean, it's 501 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 5: it's pretty stupid. I also would love to you know, 502 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 5: like you know, twenty ten years ago, you'd be like, well, 503 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 5: this is never going to be allowed by the NC 504 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,719 Speaker 5: Double A. These football programs now, I mean the NC 505 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 5: Double A in terms of their power, feels like they're 506 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 5: hanging on your life. So it just it just be chaotic. 507 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 5: And you know it's right up Texas A and M's 508 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 5: Valley too, they're they're a little bit of a renegade program. 509 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 5: I just the Bengals. I did the whole thing. I 510 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 5: signed me up. Do I think he's ended up going 511 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,360 Speaker 5: to sign with the Bengals guests? But and the other 512 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 5: thing is he's been working out with text A and M. 513 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 5: I bet most rookies like, yeah, they have an apartment, 514 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 5: they probably have girlfriends, Like they go back in the summer. 515 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 5: Where else are they going to go? And they usually 516 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 5: work out with their former teammates, especially these underclassmens. It's 517 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 5: like they literally buddy, so it's him working out with 518 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 5: tech A and M is not as crazy as it sounds. 519 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 5: When you factor in the other things of the story 520 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 5: to got it, you might go back. I had been 521 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 5: a decent amount of guys that were just drafted have 522 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 5: spent the last several weeks back where they went to college, 523 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 5: uh and training with their either college strength coach their guys. Like, 524 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 5: that's pretty normal. 525 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 7: Uh. 526 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, Again, I don't know what level of working out 527 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: there is. I would say generally, you're right, but again 528 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: I don't know this time of year, our guys staying 529 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: up at their facilities and training. I mean that. Yeah, 530 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: the whole thing is super, super fascinating right here. The 531 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: Bengals are. They spent more money than they've ever spent 532 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: on offense. You draft a guy on defense and you 533 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 1: got an agent holding you up looking for some contract. 534 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 1: I've this would be a disaster for the NFLPA, the 535 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: NFLPA because the NFL owners be like, hold on, dude, 536 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: we have a CBA. The kid declared, he got drafted. 537 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: What are you doing? What are you doing? This is 538 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 1: a terrible look for the Players Association if he doesn't 539 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: sign a contract. 540 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 5: There's already some I mean, the second round thing is 541 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 5: all these guys. You know that. I saw the forty 542 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 5: nine ers guy No showed everyone wants their contract fully guaranteed. 543 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 5: And you know, this story was kind of out of 544 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 5: left field because it's never really happened anymore. So I 545 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 5: text the buddy in the league. I said, what's going on? 546 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 1: And he's like, well, it's collusion between the agents. Let 547 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: me help you. Okay, Yeah, here's how it. Here's how it, 548 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: Here's how it worked. This is my again, and you 549 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: tell me if I'm wrong. Okay. Florio and uh okay, 550 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: what's uh part? 551 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 5: Huh? 552 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: Pablo Pablo Torri. They had that story, which if you 553 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: read the story, it's actually kind of a nothing burger. 554 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: It just did. It's like it's like, you know, they 555 00:28:58,280 --> 00:28:59,719 Speaker 1: were like, hey, it's kind of dumb to do these 556 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: guarant contracts, guys, right, I fully guaranteed contracts. It's kind 557 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: of dumb in this sport case in point, that's a 558 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: that's a really bad deal. Right. There was no collusion 559 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: to it as if they were including then they would 560 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: they would have held prices down, held guarantees down. They 561 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: have not. They have not. But it's again, I feel 562 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: like it's a what's the term they use in military 563 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: coordinated attack is a because this story comes out at 564 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: the exact same time that second round picks are like, hey, 565 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: I want my contract fully guaranteed. Just happens that happened 566 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: at the same time. 567 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 5: The reality is the most second round pick as you 568 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 5: get down from like thirty three to sixty it changed 569 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 5: a little bit, but a lot of guys from like 570 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 5: thirty three to fifty. Texting with some people that negotiate 571 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 5: these contracts, some of these guys are contract is like 572 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 5: close to ninety seven percent guaranteed before anyone's ever argued. 573 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 5: So it's like, now the number is smaller than the 574 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 5: first rounders, but the vast majority of the contract is guaranteed. 575 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 5: It's not like gets fifty percent they're arguing for, you know, 576 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 5: the other fifty percent. Most of these guys the contracts 577 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 5: pull again, so they're really arguing over a pretty It 578 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 5: sounds a little crazier than actually it's kind of like 579 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 5: the Samark Stewart Chamar Stewart. I don't know the exact number, 580 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 5: but it's just arguing on the date he said. Let's 581 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 5: just say he wants the money January first, and they 582 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 5: want to pay him September first, you know, like year three. 583 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 5: So it's it's all kind of semantics, which again, as 584 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 5: numbers grow, which they continue to fly. I mean, we 585 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 5: just thought the Chiefs gave a guard seventy million dollars guarantee, 586 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 5: So it's the money's flowing, you know, more of this 587 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 5: stuff's going to happen. I mean, we've seen in basketball 588 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 5: forever the player empowerment. Well, when a player empowerment happened, 589 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 5: when the numbers got so enormous, it's like, we're not 590 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 5: going to you know, you kind of like draw a 591 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 5: line in the sand. And that's what I think the 592 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 5: players like. The NFL players, they do have more juice. Again, 593 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 5: it's on a relative scale than they they've ever had 594 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 5: by far, and I would imagine that we're gonna see 595 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 5: more and more of these things. I would guess this 596 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 5: upcoming couple weeks, we're gonna have more guys quote unquote 597 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 5: holding in or holding out than we've ever had. I mean, 598 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 5: do you remember like when you were in college or whatever, 599 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 5: like nineties, one guy you know throughout the league might 600 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 5: like an Am Smith and then over the years maybe 601 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 5: a couple. Now it fields like, I don't know, there's 602 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 5: gonna be ten plus Pro bowlers not show up here 603 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 5: in a week. And that's not even talking about the 604 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 5: second rounders. 605 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: I'm just talking about here's where's the here's the irony 606 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: to it. Right, A lot of this is empowered and 607 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: triggered by agents for sure. Okay, where all of these 608 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: fake numbers on guarantees, it's all about the agents and 609 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: their egos and their sale for the next client anyway. Right, 610 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: reality is, as you point out, there's still healthy guarantees 611 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: in there, well why do they have what it makes 612 00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty, but it's a two could go 613 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: to fifty. That's for the agent. And so what's going 614 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: to happen is eventually you'll they'll get their way, but 615 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: just not in the way they think they're going to 616 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: get their way where they'll say like, oh, we want 617 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: fully guaranteed, Fine, we'll do fully guarantee. All these guys 618 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: would do full daring gig contracts. They're just not gonna 619 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: do the numbers that you think they're gonna do. That 620 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: would be my guess. So it is a it's the 621 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: old fashioned peeing contest. That's generally, yeah, generally what it is. 622 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: Middicoffee the best dude. Thanks for joining us. We'll talk 623 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: to you soon, Bud. All right, It's Doug Gottlieb Show, 624 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Love Talking Football with John and talk 625 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: a little golf with John as well. 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Coming up 634 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: in the Doug Gottlieb Show, what's a worse idea the 635 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: current way of extra innings rule or a home run 636 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: derby to side actual baseball games? We will discuss next. 637 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Doug gottlib Show podcast. Be 638 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday three to five 639 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: Eastern twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your 640 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: local station for the Doug Gottlieb Show at Foxsports Radio 641 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: dot Com or stream us live every day on the 642 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 643 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 6: This is the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. 644 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: It's Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. We've got a 645 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: good show for you. Today is today's Wednesday, right hump day. 646 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: What still one of the great commercials ever as the 647 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: camel walking through with the cubicles. Anyway, we have the 648 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: Midway coming up next. I have a question. It's not 649 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: a statement, it's more of a question of preference when 650 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: you travel. That'll be part of the Midway that's upcoming next. 651 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: But first, let's get to game time live. 652 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 6: This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show. 653 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 8: What do you have there, bonc On this some date, 654 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 8: We're gonna play. 655 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,240 Speaker 6: For better or worse? 656 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 8: That's right, coach, I'm gonna give you options between one 657 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 8: or two things, and well, no, between two things. You're 658 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 8: gonna tell me which ones for better, which ones for worse? 659 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 8: All right, let's start here for better or worse? Starting 660 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 8: extra innings with a ghost runner at second base, or 661 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 8: we do a home run derby to determine a tie 662 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 8: game like we saw last night in the All Star Game. 663 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: I like the guy on second base, to be honest 664 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 1: with you. It doesn't bother me by the way, Jase 665 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: do again. I know we're asking what the average fan thinks. 666 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 1: I do believe that there's a greater than five percent 667 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 1: of people that don't know they start X ratings in 668 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: the regular season with the runner second base, You're probably right, 669 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: But Jason always gets on to me. He's like, hey, here, 670 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: we are like sports fans and we talk about all 671 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 1: the time. So we're asking ourselves what people who are 672 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: what narps think, right and. 673 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 2: No, we lead the our show leads the country and 674 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 2: trying to guess what regular people are. 675 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 1: Well, that was to take phone calls, and they were 676 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: like that that would be bad. Let's not do that. 677 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: Let's not do that. I like this starting on second 678 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 1: I thought it was cute for the All Star Game. 679 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 1: I don't think it's cool in real life. 680 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 8: Totally agree with you, coach, Totally agree all right. 681 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 6: For better or worse for. 682 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 8: The viewer experience, the human umpires or the ABS system, 683 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 8: the challenging system that they, you know, are trying to 684 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 8: bring abs. 685 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, six days a week and twice on Sunday. 686 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,359 Speaker 8: Wow, Oh you really like that? Okay? Yeah, all right, 687 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 8: let's move on here. For better or for worse, Tyreek 688 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 8: Hill or Justin Jefferson on the hills heels of what 689 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 8: Randy Moss said regarding Tyreek that he's you know, nowhere 690 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 8: all time, probably a top five right now? Uh? 691 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: I I think Tyreek Hill, Wow, I think Look, I 692 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 1: think Justin Jefferson is probably a better football player. Okay, 693 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 1: but Tyreek Hill has dominated games and dominated a Super Bowl. 694 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson has not. Let's not forget that, by the way. 695 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:38,280 Speaker 1: Like I love Randy Moss, but Randy Moss, how many 696 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:43,240 Speaker 1: Super Bowls did you win? Do you know the answer? Months? 697 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 6: Zero? 698 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: Not what now? They were eighteen and zero. Unbelievable team. 699 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 1: Some things went bumping the night they lost in the 700 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: Super Bowl to the New York Giants. But and Tyreek 701 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: Hill is a lot there's a lot, a lot, a 702 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: lot to Tyrek Hill. But yeah, he's been pretty awesome. 703 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 8: Follow up, do you think, like if we were to 704 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 8: put highlight reels of Tyreek Hill and Justin Jefferson, is 705 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 8: Hill's highlight reel more exciting? 706 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean that doesn't make you a better 707 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: football sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, I actually think Tyreek Hill 708 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,280 Speaker 1: is a better football player, a very good route runner 709 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 1: comparison to what we kind of give him credit for. 710 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: But justin Jefferson, you know, you could very easily make 711 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 1: the case that he has a combination of talent and 712 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 1: skill that's better than anybody in the sport. But just 713 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: Tyreek Kill has some explosive plays that are just crazy, yeah, unreal, 714 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 1: almost crazy. So but yes, I mean I think in 715 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 1: terms of football skill, like I don't. I don't care 716 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 1: about highlight shows or highlight reels, and I would agree 717 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 1: with you say, hey, highlight reels probably better for. 718 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 6: Tyreek Hill, right right, right right, all right? 719 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 8: Coach for better or worse? Bradley Beal or Norman Powell. Obviously, 720 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 8: Bradley Beal seems to be signing with the Clippers. Norman 721 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 8: Palell was he did headed to Miami for better or worse? 722 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:14,839 Speaker 1: Powell for better or worse. I'm a Norman Powell guy. 723 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: And and here's why brad Beale struggled the past a 724 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:20,919 Speaker 1: couple years, because he's never been on a team which 725 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,359 Speaker 1: he wasn't the guy, and when trying to and being 726 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: faced to trying to compete for championships, he's just not 727 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 1: that guy. So now he's got to go figure it 728 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 1: out in a new team. He's gonna get the Clippers 729 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 1: and he won't be the guy. Yet again, I think 730 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,800 Speaker 1: he's destined to fail there. So I think Norm Powell. 731 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,439 Speaker 8: And that's game time. 732 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: This is game time on the Gottlieb Show show on 733 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Okay, coming up next, Okay, it's the midway, 734 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,240 Speaker 1: middle of the week, middle of the day, middle of the show. 735 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 1: Just a question for you, when on holiday, which do 736 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,839 Speaker 1: you prefer. We'll discuss now stunt Fox Sport Radio