1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,479 Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 2: What's up everybody, DJ and Bucky Here on Move the 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 2: sticks and Buck as we get ready to close out 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 3: Having one of our favorite guests on the show today, 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 3: Love Man. 7 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 4: Chris Peterson has been an outstanding coach everywhere he's been, 8 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 4: and I just moved beyond on the road, first watching 9 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 4: him at Boise and then watching the job that he 10 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 4: did at You Dub. Just a great organizer, a great 11 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 4: quarterback developer, someone who understands attention to detail. 12 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 3: Can't wait to have a conversation with Yeah, he is. 13 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: He is one of the best, and he's someone who 14 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 2: we've been fortunate enough to get to know over the years. 15 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 2: Always dispenses a lot of wisdom. I think you guys 16 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 2: are going to enjoy our latest conversation with Chris Peterson. 17 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: All right, Buck, excited to have coach with us again 18 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 2: here Coach Peterson, appreciate you joining us. 19 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: Man. 20 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 3: How are you doing. 21 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: I'm doing great. It's bowld time. It is playoff time. 22 00:00:55,680 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it's awesome now biting in it watching it. 23 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and you've got so many incredible moments 24 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: on the sidelines, you know, memorable moments from bowl season. 25 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 3: Is it bummy out at all? 26 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: Just with where we are kind of with the status 27 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: of the non playoff bowl games. Go a little further 28 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 2: on that question, yeah, I mean when you just look 29 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 2: at how big those games used to be, even if 30 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: you weren't in a championship environment. I remember just the 31 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 2: scouting days, if I never had to worry about who 32 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 2: was going to be playing or not playing. I was like, man, 33 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: this is good on good competition. I'm going to that game. 34 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 2: It's an evaluation opportunity. And now I'm watching games and 35 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 2: I'm like, I watch a lot of college football, but 36 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 2: I have to watch these games in my computer open 37 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: because I don't know who any of these kids are. 38 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no question, I'll tell you. I think one 39 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: thing that's kind of happened. I mean, we're just seeing 40 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: this college football landscape continue to shift and adjust, you know, 41 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: every week, it feels like and I think one thing 42 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: is the bowl game situation. Because of the playoffs. I mean, 43 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: the playoffs are like these matchups them and up are 44 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: like wow, I mean what the storylines are unbelievable. And 45 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: I've kind of always felt there's too many ball games anyways, 46 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: and now it's kind of maybe less in those. But 47 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 1: I will say this, the bowl games are still very cool. 48 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: They still are very important. I think the matchups, you know, 49 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: are always unique. The records are kind of similar in 50 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: all those things. The events. You know, these people put 51 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: these ball games on. It's I mean, they planned this 52 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: for the entire year, and they do a spectacular job 53 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: treating the schools tremendously and it's a really cool, fun event, 54 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: a great way to end your season. And then the 55 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: last thing is, you know, it's always like at a 56 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: minimum to get to a ballgame. I that's the minimum. 57 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: And it's your last time to be together as a staff. 58 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: Some of these staff members are going to move on, 59 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: and this day and age is probably half your team 60 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: and so and you know, some of these kids you 61 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: been was still for a handful of years, and even 62 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: kids that have been there one year or two year, 63 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: you're with them every day. And it's so intense this 64 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: arena that you're in. And so to wrap this up 65 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: and have one last you know, go around with them, 66 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: it still is on the inside pretty dark cool. 67 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 4: You know, coach, I think it's so funny now because 68 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 4: of the way the portal dates are, so many guys 69 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 4: are if you're not in the playoff, your older players 70 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 4: are opting out, and so what you're seeing in essence 71 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 4: is almost like a free spring game before you get 72 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 4: the spring ball where Sark talked about only having like 73 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 4: sixty seven sixty eight guys available and how they just 74 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 4: basically treated it like a very competitive, good or good 75 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 4: series of practices to kind of jumpstart what they're going 76 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 4: to do in the spring. If you're coaching now, is 77 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 4: that how you would view the bowl games with the 78 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 4: number of opt outs and portal jumpins, where you just 79 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 4: take the core of what you have and say, hey, 80 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 4: let's just find and get ready for next year. 81 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great question, Bucky. I mean that frustrates me, 82 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: these kids opting out. I mean, it's football, and there's 83 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: a chance to get you know, it's like, but the 84 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: chances of this if you're going to be a first 85 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: rounder and you're playing in just some old ball game, 86 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: I get you. But other than that, go play football, 87 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: Go finish this thing the right way. I mean, you 88 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: get hurt in workouts, you know, preparing for the drafty 89 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: most of these guys are opting out and this is 90 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: really the last significant ball that they're going to play. 91 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: The majority of these guys, they all think they're going 92 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: to do this stuff, and it's like they've been listening 93 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: to too many people that don't really know what's going on, 94 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: these agents, parents, etc. And so I think that's, you know, 95 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: a little bit frustrating. But I will tell you this. 96 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know why they don't add in 97 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: part of this contract that they're paying these kids, because 98 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: they're all getting something. Part of it is you're playing 99 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: in the ballgame, and if you don't, you're giving up 100 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: a bunch of this money. I mean, if it's going 101 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: to be transactional, it's got to be transactional both ways. 102 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: And so that's just my feeling on this whole thing. 103 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: You know, I get it if you know you're going 104 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 1: to because you look at the playoffs, nobody's really opting 105 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 1: out of those. That thing's really important, and so the 106 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: playoffs get a little bit more water down. But still 107 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: the kids that show up and play it's fun to watch, 108 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: you man. They care, they're going hard, and some of 109 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: this is a jump start into next season. Like you're 110 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: talking about coach. 111 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: You you're wired in on the on the coaching side, 112 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 2: and obviously you've had a chance to mentor a lot 113 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 2: of these young coaches that are out there. But I 114 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: know that community is so tight knit. Did you when 115 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: did you know about Signetti? And when? When did you 116 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 2: realize how ridiculous this whole thing is, with how fast 117 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 2: he has turned to Indiana Hoosiers into the number one 118 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 2: team in the country. 119 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: I this is the crazy. I don't know Kirk Signetti. 120 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 1: I know his brother Frank pretty well known for a 121 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: long time, so I've known about this family and what 122 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: he has done there is mind blowing. It is I've 123 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: never seen anything like it. That guy, I keep saying 124 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: in twenty years but maybe my entire career, like everybody, 125 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 1: and he's really bad for college football because everybody. 126 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 3: Thinks we're going to get the next guy. 127 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,119 Speaker 1: We're going to get the next guy, and it doesn't 128 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: take time, and we're going to get this done. And 129 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: it's like lightning in a bottle. What's going on in Indiana? 130 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: And I'm still like last year I was kind of 131 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: like doubting him the whole way and then they won 132 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: all their games and they lost to Furt and I'm 133 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 1: like okay, and then he's talking about, hey, we're not 134 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: going back, we're building on this, and I'm like, yeah, right, 135 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: and he was exactly right. They are building on this 136 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: and so really cool and it is amazing. And in 137 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: some ways this is the benefit of the transfer portal 138 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:54,799 Speaker 1: that it's created a lot more parody at the upper 139 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: echelons on the guys that have the money and can 140 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: play the game. So that is really fun to see. 141 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 1: But like it's not any one thing. I mean, you 142 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: have to be all in at the presidential level to 143 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: say we're playing all chips are in. You have to 144 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: have an eighty that is completely aligned with this head coach. 145 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: You have to have a head coach that has tremendous experience. 146 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: And I love Signetti's past, how he's gone from small 147 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: school to a little bit bigger school to a little 148 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: bit bigger school, but it's all these smaller schools and 149 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: the track record is kind of very similar all the 150 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: way along. And then you give him a chance and 151 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: he really has been through it and he knows what 152 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: he's doing, he knows his way. He's not trying to 153 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: be somebody else that he's really not. He's super authentic 154 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: to himself. He knows what works for him, and then 155 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: the transfer portal to like that's the quick jumpstart. He 156 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: had all these JMU players that were good, underrated players 157 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: and some other ones that he's pieced in there. It's 158 00:07:55,840 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: been phenomenal to watch and the fans have no idea 159 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: how hard that is to do. And it is kind 160 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: of like catching lightning in a bottle. I don't think 161 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: we're going to see anything. I mean, there may even 162 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: somebody else will hit the wrong the ground running pretty fast, 163 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: but from where Indiana was we're talking about, I mean, 164 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: you're not going to see that very often, even with 165 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: the transferport you know, Coach is funny, you were talking 166 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: about the path that Signette took where you kind of 167 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: went from developmental program, developmental program up the ladder. 168 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 4: So you kind of made this move going from Boise 169 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 4: to Washington where you went from a developmental program where 170 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 4: you guys were doing it. 171 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 1: To having more resources. 172 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 4: So when I look at Matt Campbell going from Iowa 173 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 4: State where he's always kind of had to punch above 174 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 4: his weight to now take it over for Penn State, 175 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 4: how challenging is that jump when it comes to your 176 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 4: recruiting what you used to recruit at Iowa State. 177 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 1: Now there's a different kind of. 178 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 3: Player that you have to recruit at Penn State. How 179 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 3: challenging is that? 180 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, again we're talking about apples and oranges. 181 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: When I left Boise to come to Washington because the 182 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: transfer portal was not there and not open like it is, 183 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: and so that was I remember thinking I wanted half 184 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: of our team at Boise to be at Washington. It's 185 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: like these guys would hit the ground running. You know, 186 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: it's always about the players. You know, the coaching matters, 187 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: but players matter more. And we had so many good 188 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: players over there, so it's different. And but what I 189 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: think is important now is what we're seeing is, and 190 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: it's really sad in a lot of ways from where 191 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: I come from, is the separation between the haves and 192 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: the have nots. So where are we drawing that line? 193 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: I mean, in general, we're drawing into Big ten and 194 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: the SEC. There's someone else in other conferences are too 195 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: off and those type of things. But what you're seeing 196 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: there is they have the money. And there's much more 197 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: parody going on with the Vanderbilts Indianas you know, Illinois 198 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: all those people are now they're in the game and 199 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: they can get these players and they're getting people to 200 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: visit and committed guys that they normally wouldn't get. But 201 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: on the other extreme, the true like developmental places back 202 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: in the day, where you found these diamonds in the 203 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: rough and you spend a couple of years developing. It's like, wow, 204 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: how did we get this guy and how this happened? 205 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: Those guys get snatched up right away and so there's 206 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: no developing those guys. So the rich places they have places, 207 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: they actually are the developmental places because they're going to 208 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 1: be able to keep these kids that show a lot 209 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: of promise longer than these other places that are used 210 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: to developing places. So that is hard to stomach from 211 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: where I come from. 212 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 2: Coach is someone who played at Appalachian State. They've tried 213 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 2: to turn us into a junior college man. We go 214 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 2: find these seeds we've found forever, invest everything in them, 215 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,599 Speaker 2: and they start playing well, and then we get to 216 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 2: watch them play in the SEC the next year. That's 217 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 2: just kind of how it unfolds it for that level 218 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 2: of program. I want to transition a little bit the quarterbacks, 219 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 2: and I've been you know, studying these guys starting on 220 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 2: the draft stuff and Mendoz and Dante more will see 221 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 2: in the college football playoff. But I was reminded going 222 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 2: through it how challenging it is to get to the 223 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 2: evaluation with just kind of where we are from RPO standpoint, 224 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 2: Like you just see a bazillion of them. So my 225 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 2: answer to that is, I've tried to just cut up 226 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 2: and watch the third and seven plus throws where I 227 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 2: can see these guys actually have to read things out 228 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 2: a little bit, see their visions, see their poise, you 229 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 2: know all those things. But have you just from studying 230 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 2: the game as long as you have been around it, 231 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 2: as long as you have what would you say are 232 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 2: the keys for being a successful player at that position? 233 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 2: What would you be looking for right now if you're 234 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 2: going out to find a quarterback? 235 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's it's so interesting just how tricky 236 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: that is. Right, we do it from high school to 237 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: the college, and then everybody else is doing from the 238 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 1: college to the and it's still such an art and 239 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: you're not. Yeah, it's just it's it's amazing. And I 240 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: think there's so many variables, you know, outside the game 241 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: itself that really play into it. And as you guys know, 242 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 1: this is such it's the most tricky position in all 243 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: of sports. It's the coolest position, you name it, the hardest, 244 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: the trickiest, the coolest in all of sports. That it 245 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 1: all comes back to you. But you need these ten 246 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 1: other guys like doing their job at such a high 247 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: level to even give you a chance. But I think 248 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: I just think it's it's just so interesting. But I 249 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: think you're right in terms of how to evaluate them. 250 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: I would try to do that in high school as well. 251 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: Like I wanted to see third downs. I wanted to 252 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: see red zone football, so can we cut out some 253 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 1: of those throws? I wanted to see two minute drills, 254 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: like these critical situations, like that's where they start to 255 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: really show their colors. And it's just it's so hard 256 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: to know. I used to be of the mindset early 257 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: in my career. These diamonds in the rough, these quarterbacks 258 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: that have all these this potential, haven't done a lot, 259 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: haven't played a lot. Oh, we're going to develop them. 260 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: That's the one thing that I learned over time. I'm 261 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: not into those guys. I want those I want those 262 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: ten thousand hour experts, you know, those experts like Banks reps. 263 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 1: There's some truth to that. It's like these kids and 264 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: these high school coaches are so good these days, and 265 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: the sophistication of some of these high school offenses. When 266 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: these kids see these things for a couple of years 267 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: in high school and throw for a bunch of yards, 268 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: to me, that's developing their instincts, the things that you 269 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: can't really teach. They feel this timing, they feel windows. 270 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: If they don't have that, it's almost like this maturation 271 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: phase that they missed, and there's always going to be 272 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: something missing. So I'm looking for these kids that have 273 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: thrown a lot. I think that that's what's really cool 274 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: maybe about the nil thing going on in college, that 275 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: these kids can stay a little bit another year and 276 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: get more reps to see these windows, these tight windows, 277 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: these certain things at a little bit slower pace than 278 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: they're going to see at the next level. I think that, 279 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: like Dante More is the perfect example, this is going 280 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: to be such a tricky decision for him, because in 281 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: my opinion, there is no doubt this kid should stay 282 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: in college and get these reps. 283 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 3: It's team start. He's got there, he starts right now. 284 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 3: There you go and you know. 285 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: I've done some stuff at the Lead eleven and I 286 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: remember when he was down there in the Lead eleven. 287 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: So I've seen these kids in high school and you 288 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: see how they're developing, and I mean, he's on track 289 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: to do something. But you know, this game is such 290 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: a game of confidence, so is life like confidence is cash. 291 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: The number one job of a coach is to develop 292 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: confidence in his players, and certainly at that quarterback position. 293 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: And so the more reps and the more success he has, 294 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: whether it's in high school the college level, the better 295 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: it's going to translate to the next level. So Dante 296 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: Moore probably could be the first quarterback pick or the second, 297 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: a top whatever pick when it's all shudden done he 298 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: comes out, but then he's going to go to probably 299 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: not that great of a team. They're going to throw 300 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: him to the Wolves too early where it could be 301 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: winning games, getting more reps, all those type of things. 302 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: And so now it comes back to the same old thing, 303 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: the money. And it's like I've said this, even the 304 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: money just can ruin everything. It's great, and it's just 305 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: you know, and it's like it's like life changing money 306 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: at that level, and then that high of a pick, 307 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: but for the long term success is that the best thing? Man? 308 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: That's a tough decision. 309 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 3: Hey, Buck, buck real quickly. 310 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 2: That's that's what we've talked about forever though was it 311 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 2: used to be at this or that it was? I 312 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 2: know I need the reps, but man, how do I 313 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 2: turn down the money? And for all of the issues 314 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 2: we have in this whole new landscape, Buck, we've been 315 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 2: talking about them forever. 316 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 3: Now you can. You can get some of the money 317 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 3: and get the reps. 318 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 2: And that's where the college benefits and the NFL benefits. 319 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 3: It really does. 320 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 4: And you know, it's one of those things where you're 321 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 4: trying to sit down with a young player and tell them, look, 322 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 4: we can prepare you to have success in the league 323 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 4: if you stay. So you can go for the quick cash, 324 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 4: which is to go now, but the long term play 325 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 4: is to be ready. And you throw out all those 326 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 4: examples of like the bo Nixes and the brock Purdies 327 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 4: and the guys that played for a long time. If 328 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 4: you show them that Jayden Daniels even, you show them that, 329 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 4: it is a lot easier to see the guys who 330 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 4: had extensive resumes have a lot of success in the 331 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 4: pros because as coach talked about ten thousand reps man 332 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 4: ten thousand hours just being able to bank it. 333 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know the crazy thing too, is I 334 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: mean the money that we're talking about for the Dante 335 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: Moores and these quarterbacks. Now, like I'm we're here in 336 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: four and five million dollars, I mean, like what what 337 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: I mean? So that's real money, and you could that's 338 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 1: that can be life changing money, just that alone. And 339 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: so then you wear you weigh that like, Okay, I'm 340 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: still pretty good here, not as good as on the 341 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: top ten pick. And then you know you're worried about 342 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: the injuries and all those things. Are your stock dropping 343 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: for whatever reason. But interesting decisions that these families and 344 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: kids have to make not easy. 345 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know it's interesting to see. And again 346 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 2: to me, it's it's about getting the experience. And it 347 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 2: doesn't even really matter where you go. We live in 348 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 2: a world where the last pick in the draft is 349 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 2: making over fifty million dollars a year, so it's more 350 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 2: important just just get yourself ready, believe in yourself, and 351 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 2: then off you go. 352 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: I got a question for you guys, if you're from 353 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: what we just talked about if we're Dante More, if 354 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: you're Dante More, what are you each doing? 355 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 2: Are you staying I'm going back to school. I'm gonna 356 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back to school. I'm gonna make five 357 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 2: million dollars a year. Whatever you're gonna make it. Organ 358 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have an insurance policy for some type of 359 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 2: catastrophic injury that if you know, the worst case scenario, 360 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 2: so I'm covered from a financial standpoint, and then buck. 361 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 2: When I entered the NFL, I've got the starts under 362 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 2: my belt, and I think every throw matters. I'm this 363 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 2: is what drives me nuts is when people hit me 364 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 2: up and go, yeah, but you know with the offense 365 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 2: they're in, and how does that? I don't care. 366 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 3: I don't care if you're just just They need to throw. 367 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 3: They need to throw and throw and throw and throw, 368 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 3: and every coverage they see, every throw they make is valuable, 369 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 3: and it's an investment in yourself and. 370 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: Coming on the heels of coach. I saw Bo Nicks 371 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. 372 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 4: You got a chance to see him live, and I 373 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 4: think he is the best example of someone who really 374 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 4: maximizes college experience. 375 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: Played a lot of games and. 376 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 4: Might have been lightly regarded and even underrated going into 377 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 4: the pros when when I watch him, the game is 378 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 4: in slow motion for him in terms of the way 379 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,719 Speaker 4: that he plays it as a young player. I just 380 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 4: think it's been proven over time, the more colegis stars 381 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 4: you get, the better it's going to be for you 382 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 4: as a pro. I just think we have too many 383 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 4: examples of that being successful for guys with a large 384 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 4: sample size, and we've seen too many failures with guys 385 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 4: who barely started a year plus in the league. 386 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: And you know, probably the best example of that this 387 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: year's the guy you started talking about, Fernando Mendoza. I mean, 388 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: I watched this kid the entire time at CAL and 389 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: it was kind of just head scratching because he'd makes 390 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: some throws where you're like wow, and then he'd makes 391 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: some other throws that you're like wow, the opposite play 392 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: like really, and so you're like, does he not you know, 393 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: have that it that I was kind of talking about 394 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 1: in these ten thousand hours and all those type of things. 395 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: And then he goes to a different system and gets 396 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: more in the surroundings different I mean, and now he's 397 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: going to maybe be the top pick of the whole thing. 398 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: So I love that that you guys are staying in school. Coach. 399 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 3: Coach. 400 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 2: First of all, that is the it's that's known as 401 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 2: the wow wet quarterback because it's the wow I like that. Yeah, 402 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 2: So that's my That's what I've labeled that over the years. 403 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 2: But the other thing with Mendoza, and we've said it 404 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 2: with bo Nicks, like bo Nicks benefited from the hard 405 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 2: times at Auburn, he had a real adversity. He didn't 406 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 2: necessarily have the best players on the field that they 407 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 2: were going into. We've seen it with a lot of 408 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 2: these quarterbacks that have had success. Perty's one that you 409 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 2: mentioned as well, Buck, Like these guys who've had to 410 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 2: go to war without the you know, the five stars 411 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 2: everywhere and having better dudes than the dudes they're playing against. 412 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 2: I think that's an advantage for them along their development. So, 413 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 2: I mean there's a lot of different traits you can 414 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 2: look for in quarterbacks, but guys that have played a 415 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 2: lot and guys who've had some adversity, Coach, that seems 416 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 2: like a pretty good place to start. 417 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: You win with achievers, you lose with potential. I mean, 418 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: that's across the board, but certainly at that position. I mean, 419 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: that's exactly what we're talking about. They put it on 420 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: tape time and time again. There's probably a really good 421 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 1: chance that they're going to do it down the road. 422 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 4: Coach, I got a question from a preparation standpoint. These games, 423 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 4: these playoff games are coming up in the next day 424 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 4: or so. It's a lot different than the regular cadence 425 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 4: and rhythm of the regular season. You used to playing 426 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 4: every week. Now in the playoffs you have this extended time. 427 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 4: How challenging was that for you as a head coach 428 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 4: getting your team ready to play? And it was different 429 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 4: because it was the bowl game, But now in these playoffs, 430 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 4: how much would you have to change your routine to 431 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 4: get your team ready to play. 432 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really interesting and that's a great question, and 433 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to that exactly. To me, 434 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: it's very similar to like you starting this season. You know, 435 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 1: it's like how much scrimmage are you gonna do? Like 436 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: how much good on good, how much live how much practice? 437 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: In general? You know, there's so much to be set, 438 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: Like this layoff is so long, and there's no question 439 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 1: you lose some rhythm and timing in this, especially at 440 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: the end of the season, because you're just not going 441 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: to scrimmage. I mean, if you did a session or 442 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: two that's live, that's probably anybody's even going to go 443 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: there if that just for the timing purposes. But it's 444 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: really hard and so you always look back. I know 445 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: this at the start of the season, how did we 446 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: start the season? We didn't start very good? Okay, do 447 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 1: we need to tweak some things? And you're I mean 448 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: that thing was like a Rubik's cube to me. I 449 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: was always fiddling with, like our August calendar, like how 450 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: do we start like fast and get out of the 451 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: gate fast? Forward to the bowl seasons? You got this 452 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: time off, it's kind of similar like starting again, and 453 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 1: so what does that look like? The one thing that 454 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: I know, like and we saw it last year. Part 455 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: of it was some of the matchups, but like the 456 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: teams that did better like out of the gate with 457 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: it were not the teams that had to buy that 458 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: had that extra layoff team time. So that's a tricky question, 459 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: and I think every team is different. That healthier team 460 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: who you're trying to bring back, that's a really complicated 461 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: issue and it's I think really hard to like just 462 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: in general talk about this because it's very team specific. 463 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 3: I remember talking to one of the Georgia coaches on 464 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 3: the field before the championship game against TCU, and I said, well, 465 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 3: how you guys feeling. He said, well, our practice whatever 466 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 3: it was five or six days ago, was an absolute 467 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 3: bloodbath war, like. 468 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 2: These guys are ready to go. And I was like, 469 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 2: and he watched that game, I'm like, it was not 470 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 2: a fair fight. But I mean they were ramped all 471 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 2: the way up and they were they were nine on 472 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 2: seven and they were getting after it that week. But 473 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 2: that's got two things, right, coach' That's a you have 474 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 2: a lot of depth, so if you lose one guy 475 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 2: in a session like that, you're okay. But the second thing, 476 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 2: I think it's they've been in these wars, a lot 477 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 2: of these wars and kind of know what it takes. 478 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 2: How big is the experience for these teams having maybe 479 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 2: been through some of this stuff. 480 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: I think, I think, think really really big. 481 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 4: You know. 482 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: I think about this matchup between Oregon and Texas Tech coming, 483 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: that's one of the ones I am so excited to see. 484 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: I can't wait for that game. But that's one of 485 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: the things that jumps out to me, like Orgon has 486 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: been through it here now a little bit, you know, 487 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 1: with Dan Landing and the history of that program, and 488 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: this is completely new for Texas Tech. And so that's 489 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: probably the number one thing that jumps into my mind 490 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 1: is how are they going to handle this stage because 491 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 1: it does feel a little bit different. But you're right, 492 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: you know, it's interesting because I remember we would go 493 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: to bowl games, and I remember this one bowl game 494 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: in particular, and the high school coaches from the area 495 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: will come to your practices. You know, they want to 496 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: They don't care about the game, they want to see 497 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: how practice. And I remember this one crew coming and 498 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: they had the day before been to the other team's 499 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: practice and then they came to ours and they said, wow, 500 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: that was impressive. I'm like, what, he goes, Well, we 501 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: went to the other team's practice and that didn't look 502 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: like much of a practice, and we're watching you guys, 503 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: that was impressive, and you know exactly what happened. We 504 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: got the doors beat office and I'm thinking, I'm thinking, 505 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: we're going to get out of these guys. We know 506 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 1: how to practice, and we got a run out and 507 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, I don't know what matters, practicing 508 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: good or not. No playing good in the game matters. 509 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 3: So anyway, that's too good. Yeah, that's It. 510 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: Reminds me of the coach. 511 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 4: We do these All star games all the time, and 512 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 4: we'll see one team, the team that is organized and 513 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 4: disciplined and detail. 514 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 3: And running through and it gets smashed, guaranteed every. 515 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 2: Time you see it. Exactly you run through other team, 516 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 2: can't get three reps in a ten minute period. Everybody, 517 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 2: all scouts up in the stands like this is the 518 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 2: most worthless practice of all time. They're gonna get your 519 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 2: teeth kicked in. You go to the game when they 520 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 2: beat them by thirty points. 521 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 5: Yep. 522 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: So I'm talking about the team that. 523 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 2: Had the better quarterback ended up winning the game. Coach, 524 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 2: It's funny how that ends up last one, coach, And 525 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 2: I'll let you run here. But when when you look 526 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 2: at these playoffs and you look at kind of the 527 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 2: grinder that some of these teams, especially if you don't 528 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 2: have a buy, you know, it's a long road. And 529 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 2: we talked about the rookie wall in the NFL, that's 530 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 2: almost not even the case for these teams that have 531 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 2: been through the playoff. What's the key as you get 532 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 2: to the end of that journey, as you're at the 533 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 2: very end, to make sure that hey, you're ready to go, 534 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 2: but we're also got our legs underneath this as we're 535 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 2: going on a very long journey here. 536 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's interesting when we went to the 537 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,959 Speaker 1: playoffs again, this was a four team playoff and we 538 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: lost to Alabama in the first so we didn't get 539 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: the second game. So that's a little bit different than 540 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 1: what some of these guys the grinder that they're going on. 541 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 1: And I think if I was back in it, what 542 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 1: I would be doing for sure, have already had done, 543 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 1: is going right to the NFL guys and talking about 544 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: how do you practice late in the season, and how 545 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: do you practice when you're in these playoffs? What does 546 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: that look like? Because you know, it's been I've had 547 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: some of these conversations with some of these pro head coaches. 548 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: Like the thing that's amazing to me is these Thursday 549 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: night games. I mean, are you hitting me? Let alone 550 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: game planning, but just the physical wear and tear, Like, 551 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: how do you do it? So they don't practice, They 552 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: put their tennis shoes on and it's walkthroughs at best, 553 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: and it's their back to their groove calls and you 554 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: know those plays that they've run a thousand times and 555 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: window dress them so they know those type of things 556 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: and a couple of little wrinkles, but they don't practice. 557 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: And so I think there's an art to that as well. 558 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: But that's that's what I would do, is I would 559 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: lean heavily on the NFL guys that have been through this. 560 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: I've talked. That would be like a big time off 561 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: season research project, and then I would talk to some 562 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: of them late if we were going to the playoffs. Hey, 563 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: just double check and are you seeing these things like 564 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: I'm seeing in terms of maybe what our calendar looks like, 565 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: because I'm telling you that calendar, how this whole thing 566 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: lays out for your playoffs. Getting to this point, there's 567 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 1: not right and wrong. Like you said, Kirby Smart, it's 568 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 1: going to be a bloodbath. 569 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 570 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: Most other people are like, we're not touching each other, 571 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: like stop it, we're putting flags on. I'm all my 572 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: good guys in the game. And if we're getting hurt, 573 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 1: we're getting hurt there not in practice. 574 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 2: The coach, I'll leave you, I'll leave with this last 575 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,199 Speaker 2: Kirby smart story on once You Run. But I have 576 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 2: a buddy on the UH on the personnel side over there, 577 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 2: so I had called him. This is a couple of 578 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 2: years back. It was during the season, so I called him, 579 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 2: and you know, Kirby does the UH. He does the 580 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 2: microphone at practice, a lot of these coaches do, so 581 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 2: you can kind of hear it blaring through the facility 582 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 2: that must have been the indoor. So I call him and 583 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 2: I can hear Kirby and he is just screaming and 584 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 2: he is get dog cussing these kids, and I'm like, 585 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 2: so finally, i was having a hard time communicating because 586 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 2: I'm hearing so much Kirby in the background. As I'm 587 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 2: talking to him and he's out the practice, I go, Hey, 588 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 2: who the heck do you guys play this week? He goes, oh, 589 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 2: it's our bye week. 590 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: Exactly exactly. Well, that's you know, that's kind of the 591 00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: old adage of you have to act and this is 592 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: basic and not totally true, but in general, you have 593 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: to act exactly opposite of your team. So if you 594 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: have a buy, or you're playing someone not good you 595 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: know good, or or you have played well, you need 596 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: to come at him like he done nothing. Buy story 597 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: with a buy like what we don't make casey. But 598 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: if it's like we haven't played well, we got this 599 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: huge game, it's you know, they're kind of a little 600 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: bit nervous, like, no, you're mister polsity. We got this. 601 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: You're good. You don't surprised me. Kurby's coming out of 602 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: that hard. 603 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 2: It's a seaw, man, it's a coach's job. You got 604 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 2: to balance the seesaw on that, on that whole thing. Hey, coach, 605 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 2: we love as I I know Bucky, you and I 606 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 2: we always love taking notes when we're talking with you. 607 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 2: We got some great stuff today. Man, enjoy the heck 608 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 2: out of these college playoffs. I know you will. And 609 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 2: let's let's catch up down the road. 610 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: Sounds great. I appreciate you both. Thanks for having me on, 611 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: and happy New Year to you guys. 612 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 3: Happy new year, thank you. Coach. Well, there you go, Buck. 613 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 2: I always enjoy coach Pete when he comes on, and 614 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 2: again some great stuff. Talked about quarterbacks, third down, red zone, 615 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 2: two minute drill. You've talked about that before, so that 616 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 2: was something just to reinforce. I love the phrase that 617 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 2: the number one job of a head coach is to 618 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 2: build confidence in your players. Confidence is cash, is what 619 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 2: he said. So I have absolutely loved that. And he 620 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 2: said you win with what did he say? He wins, 621 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 2: you lose with potential? Yeah, I got to read my 622 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 2: own writing. Yeah that was that was great, fantastic. I 623 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 2: always loved talking with him. 624 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 3: Man. 625 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: Man, it's such a good one. 626 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 4: And you know, I just think the perspective that he 627 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 4: brings in how crazy it is right now to be 628 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 4: a head football coach. And I know people will say, like, well, 629 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 4: the coach is getting paid a lot of money. They're 630 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 4: winding and complaining. But DJ, as you and I know, man, 631 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 4: this is definitely not the college football landscape that we 632 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 4: know as players and even as scouts. This is a 633 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 4: completely different deal. Like we always talked about it being 634 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 4: minor of the football, but now this is uncharity water 635 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 4: when it comes to whatever is going on in this landscape. 636 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 4: But I will say this, all that chaos aside, these 637 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 4: games are so good. 638 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 5: Even the bowl games, like even the bowl games, like 639 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 5: the regular non descript bowl games that I've been watching, 640 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 5: even those games have been good. So it's crazy. 641 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 2: I don't know who any of the players are, though, Buck, 642 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 2: but you know, I might watching I watch the USC 643 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 2: game against TCU, and I watch it. We live out here. 644 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 2: I've watched it every week. I know who their guys are, 645 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 2: and I'm watching it. I'm like, who the heck is this? 646 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 2: This guy's playing running back, he's listed as a corner. 647 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 2: I never even what's going on. 648 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: Just all of it. 649 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 4: Like it's almost like tuning in to a random high 650 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 4: school game around the corner, like, oh. 651 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 3: I guess up in town. 652 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 2: I just go pop in and see there's all freshman. 653 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 2: I was looking through it every everybody. I was like, 654 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 2: lying in freshman, freshman, fresh running back, freshman, tight end, freshman, receivers, freshman. 655 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 3: It's just all freshmen. 656 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 4: I mean, but I'm I mean, in a way, it's 657 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 4: a jump start to spring ball because you get a 658 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 4: chance to look at whatever. And I was telling coach 659 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 4: Steve Sarkisian talked about he all the guys opted out 660 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 4: and how you only had like sixty or seventy guys 661 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 4: that he could practice when hey, he had to lean 662 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 4: into some of the stuff that he learned from being 663 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 4: with Atlanta and Dan Quinn and Good on Good and 664 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 4: basically just trying to get these guys ready to play, 665 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 4: and I mean you get a looxi, a looxie of 666 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 4: what you have and some of the gaps that you have, 667 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 4: And that used to be the benefit of the bowl 668 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 4: game practices, but now I think people have just split 669 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 4: it up and said, well, you know, the bowl game 670 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 4: is just basically spring ball A and then we'll go 671 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 4: to spring ball B in March. You kind of get 672 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 4: it going. 673 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 2: I mean, that game was on and they said USC's 674 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 2: D line coach was calling the defense because Dan Lenna 675 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 2: just left to go to past like the day before. 676 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 2: And then TCUs got their OC was their tight ends 677 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 2: coach in that game because they're OC had left. So 678 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, you got a tight ends coach calling off 679 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 2: and the D line coach calling defense and a bunch 680 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 2: of freshmen running all over the place. 681 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 3: Like it's just. 682 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 2: It's hard to just to recalibrate of figuring out what 683 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 2: this is. It's not really a win or loss situation, 684 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 2: just trying to look at some young guys and get 685 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 2: ready for the spring. 686 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 687 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 4: And that's funny, right, because like it used to be 688 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 4: such a big deal to win and do those things, 689 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 4: and now it is more like kind of like a scrimmage, 690 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,479 Speaker 4: like like you teach you scrimage. You want to get 691 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 4: these guys on tape. We want to see some concepts. 692 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 4: We want to see how they react to certain situations 693 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 4: and all that. It's not a controlled environment, but in 694 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 4: a way, it's a way to get live rest for 695 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 4: your young guys without consequence. 696 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 2: There's win or not. Yeah, no, that's just where it is, 697 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,479 Speaker 2: all right. This has been a fun one Happy New 698 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,719 Speaker 2: year to everybody. We appreciate you hanging with us. We'll 699 00:33:46,720 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 2: see you next time. Right here, I'm with the sticks.